Nightcap Hour 1: Saints in trouble + Shedeur still 4th string?!?!?!

25:24Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. We talked about this. When Dylan Gabriel was in, at any point in time in training camp, did he look as good as you do or look Friday night? At any point in time, it's a simple yes or a simple no. I don't think so. Before Kenny Pickett got hurt, at any point in time, did he look as good and camp or you know many camps OTAs joint practices if he made it that far because he seemed like he got Nick really soon did he look that good I doubt it I'm so

26:00it's tough but listen they've been playing games right they've been playing games the political games you know what I'm talking about I don't need to address it the elephant in the room you can see it clear as day so I'm just saying are they going to play games but we're going to find out. I think I'm going to see if there's still going to be some funny business, even despite the way he played. Are they still going to play that political game? I'm curious. I'm just curious to see. Now, if they do play Saturday, now let's see what happens. Is Dylan Gabriel going to be healthy? Is Kenny Pickett going to be healthy?

26:30Are they going to get the chance to prove themselves?

26:35I'm really curious what's going to happen Saturday.

26:41Shannon Sharpe:oh NFL insider says Shadur Sanders still stands behind Dylan Gabriel for the Browns coaches Gabriel is the head of Sanders in the eye of the coaching staff but rarely in training camp has that position match what we've seen on the field the quarterback situation remains the story of camp and Shadur Sanders is settling in to lead three scoring drives in the most extended action of the summer won't make the team's consistent stance that Sanders is fourth in a line any less perplexing. No reasonable person thinks Sanders will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently attack a complicated defense three weeks from now.

27:20Shannon Sharpe:He's shown enough talent and growth, however, to make anyone believe he should be on the team and have a chance to develop into a starting quality player. Sanders is talented. His throw out of the end zone to wide receiver Greg Labardon in the preseason opener and is floated down the sideline to receiver Luke Floria later approved. Until we see Sanders get practice reps with the number one offense, we can't believe the Browns view him as having much of a shot to be the number two when the season begin. I agree with what they're saying, but that's my point is, okay, you said, have we seen enough have you seen enough for Dillon what have you seen from Dillon Gabriel to make you think he can be number two did you hear excuse me who wrote that

28:14Shannon Sharpe:the Browns athletic insider the Browns athletic insider right so you see Shadour do what he does three quarters of football three I think maybe play well into the fourth quarter right so in a live game you saw him play the way he played and still questioned if he can do the same thing when he has the actual starters at his disposal i'm confused

28:47Shannon Sharpe:my thing is he says no reasonable person thinks sanders will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently attack a complicated NFL defense three weeks from now. What about Dylan Gabriel? Has he shown you enough to make them believe that three weeks from now he can lead this team against a complicated defense? I digress even further. Has Kenny Pickett ever shown you that he can lead a team against a complicated defense?

29:21Shannon Sharpe:because all i know is that what i keep hearing is what you're telling me what he can't do like my coach just said college with a well put it find something that he can do so you keep telling me what should do or can't do well your job as a coach is to put players in position and find something that they can do but where's the can't coming from when we just saw him do it i know it's a small sample size it's three quarters of football but everything you said he can't do he just did matter of fact he just did what we already saw him do at jackson state he just did what we saw him do at colorado we just did even though it's a small suicide uncle i played the game for a very long time i played the game for a very long time i'm a receiver i know what it's supposed to look like i know what it looks like when there's a quarterback that's playing in a game and he's confident he's polished his pocket presence his mannerisms I know what it should look like.

30:16We've seen Kenny Pickett with the Steelers. If he was the answer for Cleveland, he would have been the answer in Pittsburgh. No disrespect to him.

30:26Shannon Sharpe:What's the question you're asking? What's that? Because if Kenny Pickett is the answer, I need to know the question. Did he play for the University of Pittsburgh? Yes.

30:39I don't know what more. I don't know what more. Listen, when you fill out your resume, right? When you fill out your resume and you go on for that job interview, you want to put your best foot forward. You want to keep a lasting impression. Well, the lasting impression is what we saw Friday night from the person they claim is the fourth string quarterback. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, what do we do? We build from that on Saturday.

31:11Shannon Sharpe:Well, you build from that. No, you build from that starting in practice by giving him more reps, more quality reps. You don't leave him in the position that he was in where he's getting a handful of reps with the threes and fours. You give him some opportunities with the ones, with the twos. I'm not saying he has to take five, six reps with the ones, but I'm saying you sprinkle. Maybe you give him one or two reps. Maybe you give him three or four reps with the twos. I do agree with this. Until we see Sanders get practice reps with the number one offense, we can't believe the Browns view him as having much of a shot to be number two when the season begin.

31:41Shannon Sharpe:true I do I do agree with that statement you're not going from four to two if you four training cap then all of a sudden the season start your number two they're going to need to see you with the ones and twos to feel comfortable because they got to make a decision and when you make that decision you release somebody ain't no guarantee that you're going to be able to bring them back and put them on your practice squad somebody might sign them and put them on the active roster so that's the case Ocho do I stay on your practice squad for say 25 30 ,000 or do I go somewhere and get an opportunity to get a real roster spot and make almost a million dollars a year so that's the question that you have that's a decision that you make when you release these guys because I'm sure there are some guys you know I would love to have him to have another year learning our system and when we come back next year having a uh uh the OTAs the training camp the season of working scout team stuff.

32:36Shannon Sharpe:When we come back for OTAs, Ocho, he should be good to go. He should be fully developing, good to go. So I don't want people thinking that Ocho and I are beating up on Zach Jackson. I agree with what he's saying. But my thing, I'm more talking about the Browns as an organization, as a coaching staff.

32:59Shannon Sharpe:Because the fans are saying, you want us to believe you or our lying eyes? I know what my eyes, I saw. I know what I saw. I hear what you're saying, but I see better than I hear. I know now. Y 'all keep telling us Dylan Gabriel, Dylan Gabriel, but we have yet to see him. Now, everything that I see is that, no, he's, you know, she's not better than Shadour. For most of the articles that I've been reading, and hey, people can write whatever they want to write, so I don't want to put too much emphasis, but I haven't seen, I haven't read a whole lot where they say that Dylan Gabriel has played better or is playing better than Shadon.

33:37Shannon Sharpe:What did I tell you, Uncle? What did I tell you not too long ago about how camp looked? I'm not saying no names again this time because I don't want to get nobody in no trouble. What did I tell you? And then exactly what that individual said, who's in there every day, that plays on the other side of the ball and has to see it, exactly what he said way back then, we saw it show up the fact that he's not getting first team reps with the ones and the twos and still went out there and looked the way he did what does that tell you anybody would get marginal reps to begin with damn the ones and twos Ocho he barely getting reps at all and then okay I'll say no more again say no more so you're not doing him justice in practice but still showed up in the game and look the par and look like that.

34:31What does that say? But we're going to see Saturday. And I hope Dylan Gabriel gets his opportunity because I would love to see what he does and what he gives that offense and that coach and staff that believes in him. I'm hoping he gets a fair shot. I'm hoping he does. I'm hoping he does. I would love to see it. I would love to see it. I know he's a competitor. He was great at Oregon. He was really good. So I'm all for it. Yeah, it's – let the guy – like – it's like when you're in that situation,

35:09Shannon Sharpe:the guy flashes. Normally when guys flashes in camp – Ocho, you and I both played the NFL for a long time. We both played at a high level. Every team that I've been on, when a guy flashes in practice, a guy flashes in the game, he gets to move up and he gets meaningful reps. more meaningful reps meaning he's no longer on the third or fourth they'll sneak some reps in with the twos maybe they'll give him one or two shots at with the ones that's normally how it works they're not so set in their ways that it's like oh we just see this guy as it's kind of like td i give prime example td was a guy td was a six round draft pick td was probably like the fifth or the sixth running back.

35:55Shannon Sharpe:But every day, he made that play on kickoff, and every day you saw TD get a little better. It gave him a little bit more reps. And so all of a sudden, he'd go from six to five, from five to four, four to two.

36:10Shannon Sharpe:After the first game of the season, TD won. Normally, that's how it plays out. Guys show you in the game. Because when guys flash in practice, Socho, you're thinking to yourself, I wonder if he'd do that in the game. Hell, coach, put his ass in the game. Let's see what he can do. That's normally how it happened. Wade Phillips, our defensive coordinator, that's how I got in the game. He said, Dan, put his ass in the game. Let's see if they can cover it because we can't. Dan's like, okay. They put my ass in the game. well Shadour I think Shadour showed you something that he deserving I'm not saying he needs to you need to implement him as the starter the number one oh I didn't we didn't say that that's not what we're saying but I think he's shown you enough Friday just says you know what we might need to give him some more quality reps with guys that's going to be playing on Sunday and let's see him facing the number one defense, Miles Garrett, those guys over there, but let's give him Jerry Judy.

37:21Shannon Sharpe:Let's give him Njoku. Let's see if he can replicate some of that, what he did on Friday, with the ones today. That's all we're saying. Can I say one more thing? Go ahead. If you can do what he did without getting the practice reps in a game, without the number ones around them things only get easier when you have the ones at your disposal that are better at the position Cedric Tillman and Joku Jerry Ju it only becomes easier on it doesn't get it doesn't get more difficult now once you're playing against a team that's skiing for you and disguises and and does all the all the stuff you know the game planning for you okay And that's different.

38:11Then you just have to process a little bit faster. That's all. Everything is vanilla. They line up and they just go.

38:22Shannon Sharpe:That's exactly how it is. But Ocho, you get better at something by doing said things. Exactly. You heard what you just said? You get better at something by doing said thing. But he wasn't doing said thing because he wasn't getting stressed and still looked the way he did. I agree. I agree. they that organization they don't view it that way how i i don't know i don't know but i'm guessing in the in the in the direction in which they're going i'm hoping they're right they haven't been right in the 35 quarterback that they tried previously or maybe i'm wrong

39:05Shannon Sharpe:no i just think uh i do believe that he's earned the right um to get quality reps with the ones and twos i'm not saying that you implement him that now he's qb1 i'm not saying he's qb2 maybe um but i think he's earned that opportunity I know one thing. I know one thing. They better put a statue of Andrew Barry outside that goddamn stadium.

39:43Tell you that. Listen, I can already foresee how it's going to go. I already know how it's going to go. I can already see it. They're going to continue to play, continue to play, continue to play, put everybody in front of him, continue to play. And then when this opportunity presents itself like it did because of injury, he looked a certain way. You can't deny it. You can't deny it. No matter what you try to do, you can't deny it. You can't.

40:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe. And Cleveland doing this, sometimes a man can make his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. sometimes you might they might even have their quarterback even though they tried to avoid giving him the opportunity come on now on the very road you took to avoid it you found your destiny

40:45Shannon Sharpe:i i i just I'm not saying I'm general manager. I'm not saying I'm a player personnel director. I just know that when guys flash

41:01go back to Tom Brady, they kept four quarterbacks that year.

41:05Shannon Sharpe:Coach Belichick said that he saw something in Tom that said if he got more of an opportunity, he might be okay. He didn't know he was going to be this. Hell, if he knew he was going to be that, Somebody would have taken him in the first pick in the draft. But he flashed enough. Guys, you know, late round picks. Okay. Like, he showed something. Sometimes you just need time. Sometimes you need more opportunity. You know, looking at Trey Lance. Trey Lance, like, he needed time. Time, which the 49ers didn't have. the 49ers are on the clock they got to win now with the roster that they have they're not in rebuild well the cleveland what i mean you just gave a guy 140 million dollars he's under the assumption now he played it both ways you know i want out y 'all not winning got the money hey but what are y 'all what are y 'all doing are y 'all in rebuild or you're trying to win because y 'all see who's in y 'all division.

42:14Shannon Sharpe:Quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. Now, Lamar Jackson is 27, 28. He got another five to ten years in Baltimore. Joe Burrow might be a year younger than Lamar. He's got another five to ten years in Cincinnati. Well, while y 'all playing musical chairs with quarterbacks, they've identified their guy, and he's going to be there for almost a decade.

42:46Shannon Sharpe:You're not beating a team that has an established quarterback playing musical chairs with a quarterback. No. Uh-uh. Not at all. Not at all. Listen, it's exciting. It's exciting. And listen, even as a Bengal fan, as a Bengal player at heart, it's it's enjoyable to be talking about the brown it's enjoyable it's it's exciting it's it's exciting for for brown fans i mean when's the last time you had a player of this magnitude who's a rookie that has you guys in the national spotlight like this right at all at all times. Basically, yeah, you got to go back to Johnny football. Johnny was special, boy.

43:37Johnny was special, boy. He was special.

43:44Shannon Sharpe:We'll see. It'll be interesting to see when they go out to practice today. I mean, excuse me, today. Tomorrow, what comes back? What type of reps did Shadur get? Did he get reps with the ones? Did he get a rep or two with the ones? Did he get anything with the twos? Or was he back relegated to being the fourth quarterback and getting one rep with the fours or no reps or just getting side work?

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47:32Shannon Sharpe:Teams are reportedly monitoring Tyreek for potential trade. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, I've talked to a few teams who are at least monitoring his future a little bit. Could he be a potential trade target now? I know Dolphins earlier this summer were telling teams, no, we're not trading Tyreek Hill. But they just wonder, is he going to be available? It could be wishful thinking. Maybe they want him to be available. But he's a player when I bring up to teams, hey, who's sort of a trade target you're watching. They bring up Tyreek Hill. So we'll see. he's a big option for Tua and they would be a major move if they did move away from him yes sir are they will they should they your hometown team you grew up watching trade Tyreek Hill absolutely not you want a chance to compete in the AFC East against the Buffalo Bills you want a chance you take away one of the most dynamic weapons in the NFL are you serious i love h and i love waddle they have some great waddle got nicked in friday's practice so he didn't play today they have some great receivers also on that squad but we talk about one of the greatest receivers to ever play who is still very viable and one of the best in the game top five i don't care about that goddamn down season come on now the fastest still in the NFL, we talk about trading them?

49:06That makes no sense. Logically, if you're serious about winning, I need all hands on deck. The best weapons I can have. Tua has that. Regardless of their issues personally, listen, I'm not there to like you. Everybody's not going to get along. We come into camp with one goal, one goal in mind, to win games and hopefully compete for them Lombardi in San Francisco. this ain't no goddamn kumbaya moment well what are we talking about you want your best players on your team offensively and defensively so you can go out there compete on Sundays at one o 'clock you don't trade them away not when they're still this good what sense does that make

49:56Shannon Sharpe:I think a lot is predicated on tools health he gets mixed again they're gonna move on how they just paid him last year

50:07if if two gets hurt they gonna okay you think so

50:15wait a minute wait wait a minute um slow down wait slow come on now wait a minute i don't want help me understand that because if two gets hurt right wait stay with me real quick If Tua gets hurt, Zach Wilson comes in. Why would you take that weapon away from Zach Wilson, who was also a serviceable quarterback?

50:37Shannon Sharpe:I don't want him to hurt himself. You know, with loaded weapons in the house, you got to be careful with kids that don't know how to handle them. Zach Wilson don't know what to do with that. And here's the thing. Ocho, when people's name keeps coming up as trade target, Somebody talking He said Jeremy Fowler just said that Basically every time he reached out for a name Who should he be monitoring Why everybody keep reaching in Tyreek Hill's name You know why

51:15They

51:15Shannon Sharpe:He had a down year They didn't appreciate how he handled The end of the year Which I told you they were going to be unhappy with that because what he got on his chest, Ocho, he got that captaincy.

51:32Shannon Sharpe:You do things a little differently than a normal person. So even when you don't feel like Ocho, sometimes you got to suck it up like, hey, man, we ain't got no chance. Man, we down 31 to nothing at the start of the fourth. You can't come out. You got to go down with the shield. They didn't like how he handled that. There are some other things that was going on that didn't like how he got off to a bad start. Remember the first game of the season? The police, you know, he coming into the stadium. You know, got Kalev Campbell in handcuffs. They got John Smith. You know, it's just like, is this too much?

52:15Shannon Sharpe:And so I do believe the Dolphins had mentioned that. potentially dangled him out there. Listen, you can dangle all you want. You can dangle him like his mistletoe. You hear me? And somebody will come along. For sure. One of the top five threats in the NFL from offensive weapons. That's a dream come true. Allowing him to be available? What did we talk about? Talk about a team that's on the verge of, you know what, if we can add this to our offense, that gives us another weapon. That gives us another chance to get that much better. Man, come on, man, please. Please, I can understand if he is slowed down or he's not the same Tyreek he used to be.

53:06Man, I just watched a young bull run 10 goddamn one. He ain't even no track runner. He's a football player. Someone that is fast as he is, that is dynamic as he is on the field on Sundays, even when he loses step in when he's 35 he's still faster than everybody else but you know what we're going to dangle him out there for trade talks huh

53:32he makes our offense that much easier he makes it easier for Waddle he makes it easier for Tua he makes it easier for A-Chain why because they always got to have somebody on the top of that young bull always he opens up you gotta convince me I know what he is huh this is what we want to trade away come on man stop playing we want a chance to be able to beat the Bills we want who gives us our best chance to beat the Bills well maybe just the most dynamic receiver of all time in the history of the game that happens to be on our team hell we can't even beat Josh Allen now we talk about trading away man stop playing what are we talking about maybe maybe maybe the talks or maybe this will get him to get in line maybe this will get him to stop some of the shenanigans he's doing you know take away his personality why would you do that don't take away what makes him him i i don't know i don't know anytime there are talks like that unc you know it comes from somewhere i know that it comes from somewhere most of the time it come from in the house.

54:39The call is always coming from in the house.

54:43Shannon Sharpe:Jeremy said, but he's a player when, when I bring up to teams, Hey, who is sort of a trade target you're watching. They bring up Tyreek Hill. So no matter the team, when he's like, man, who, who you're watching, who you think might get traded?

55:02Shannon Sharpe:Everybody thinking the same thing. Hold on now. If we talk about getting traded, we'll be waiting on. What are we waiting on? what are we waiting on? Why are we waiting for the season to start the trading? If that was the point, hey, you could have got rid of him last year in the offseason, during the draft. The season didn't get ready to start. Now he hadn't been through training camp, well, he's not playing in preseason games. You could have let him go already. So what's the point of the conversation being brought up before the season even started? That makes no sense. You know, there have been some trade deadlines.

55:33Shannon Sharpe:I mean, some guys right at the trade deadline get moved. I'll tell you one thing. The right team going to get them. Hell, don't be surprised. They end up back in Kansas City. Yeah, don't be surprised. You see what they got. Worthy, Tyree. Rasheed Rice. Rasheed Rice and what's my dog's name? Who that? What's with Arizona, man? Oh, Hollywood. You talking about Hollywood? Yeah, Hollywood. Come on, man. Stop playing. Yeah, play around if you want to. You think you think my homes won't be up there? Mr. Reed, Mr. Hunt, man, go on and get 10 and bring him on back over here. Yeah, OK. And Kelsey. But y 'all want to play.

56:26Shannon Sharpe:They got Robert Tanya, too. Yeah. He was really good at Green Bay until he hurt his knee.

56:36Hollywood Brown probably come on down. You know, Brown, he from the crib. I can see that trade. I'm just throwing this out there hypothetically. Oh, you want to trade? Okay, yeah. We're sending Hollywood Brown down to Miami, so we're going to exchange speed for speed.

56:51Shannon Sharpe:That's a – I mean, Hollywood ain't making the kind of money. Tyreek is$30 million. Hollywood Brown might be making five, six. Yeah, I understand. Dolphin general manager Chris Greer said in April before the draft that he had no intentions of dealing Tyreek, but an offer including two first-round picks would be enticing. Nobody's going to give up that. Nobody's going to give up no two first-round picks with no receiver. And got to pay – no. No. Now, maybe a second, maybe a second, maybe a third and a fifth. How old is Tyreek? 30, 31? No, is Tyreek a player we can use and worry about the age factor?

57:41Shannon Sharpe:I don't, but teams do. Wow. Ocho, you know they put expiration dates on everything. They can do that. But this expiration, listen, the expiration date on that one is a little different than everybody else. I know. Play stupid games, you can win stupid prizes. I just don't believe he's going for two first-round picks. I think if they made, I believe, had they made it more palatable, I believe they'd have traded him this offseason. If they'd have, like, okay. That would have made more sense. Either the offseason or the draft. Yes. What did we do? Now we want to pick it up before the season starts.

58:18Huh?

58:20Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Devontae went for two first-rounders, what, four years ago? But how was Devontae? Devontae was, what, 27 then?

58:33Hmm.

58:36Shannon Sharpe:So it's going to be extremely interesting. He was 28 at a time? He's 32, okay. Nah. Only a quarterback, 31, can go for two first-rounders. you would trade two first routers for Lamar, you would trade two first routers for Mahomes, you'd give him three first routers for those Josh Allen, Joe there are certain guys and I don't think any of those guys, I think Mahomes will be 30 his birthday, right? But I don't think any of those guys are 30 currently

59:11Shannon Sharpe:but it's going to be interesting it's going to be very interesting to see how this season starts because a lot of times it's how to see how the season going Ocho we got no chance for the playoffs we got a chance for the playoffs let's go ahead and get some draft capital Ocho let's go ahead and get this 30 31 30 31 million dollars yes okay I mean I like it from from from that standpoint I understand it they oh that's how they think oh I know that I know the business side of it because if you're not using the$31 million receiver the right way, you pay him $31 million for a reason. Not using him in the manner in which he's making$31 million for a reason, well, that's on you.

1:00:00That's on you.

1:00:04Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, the Chargers have Justin Herbert doing running back drills. You've got to check out this video courtesy of Nate Gonsi. Gonsi. Gonsi.

1:00:22I like it.

1:00:24Shannon Sharpe:That's something Jim Harbaugh put together. Because that's something he would do. Everybody doing running back drills? Yeah, going through the gauntlet. Have a look. I mean, you know, sometimes, you know, you come through Ocho, You know, you're working on your grip. They're going to tug. They're going to hit him. Yeah. But normally they don't have the guy getting up off the ground like a running back would.

1:00:57Shannon Sharpe:But that's the only thing. I mean, the guy's tug. You know, you get the ball. You're not used to carrying the football. Hey, he's making sure you keep it secure. But like I said, I mean, normally they do it a different way than that. But, hey, Jim has his way of doing things, and it's kind of served him well because he's won, and it didn't take him long to start winning once he got there. So I don't have any problem with Jim doing that. Man, you got me hot, man. You got me hot, man. I'm just sitting here thinking about it. What you hot for? We talking about trading Tyreek, man. That's almost as ridiculous as saying, you know what?

1:01:34Shannon Sharpe:They traded Randy Moss. They traded Terrell Owens. They traded James Lofton. so now I'm going to ask you again now you tell me which one of those three guys Tyreek is better than right now they cut Jerry Rice now you tell me which one of the four guys I named Tyreek's better than

1:01:56I'm still mad I'm still mad and I have every right to be mad because I'm thinking about my Dolphins I'm thinking about my Dolphins and us having a chance for those that say oh you a bangle blah blah blah I was born at Jackson Memorial Hospital. I was born at Jackson Memorial Hospital right near Overtown at 308 on January night, 1968. Therefore, I grew up watching the Dolphins, Dan Marino, Zonka, Mark Duper. So therefore that is where my love and passion and enthusiasm being a Dolphin fan comes from. So the fact that he gives us our best chance to compete offensively in the AFCs against an animal that they have down there in Buffalo, New York.

1:02:37by the name of Josh Allen.

1:02:40Shannon Sharpe:Up there, but yeah, we know where you're going. Come on, man. What are we talking about? Are we even trying? I mean, down there, he'd be playing in Cuba. Huh? I said if he was down, he'd be in Cuba. But you didn't answer my question, Ocho. I asked you. I gave you some names. I said they cut Jerry, they traded Randy, they traded James Lofton, they traded T.O. I just gave you four names. I said, now which one T.O. better than? I mean, which one better? They cut Jerry. Yeah. You're right. That's just a business model. Repeat what I just said, Ojo. You said they cut Randy. They cut T.O. They traded Randy first.

1:03:20Shannon Sharpe:Remember, they traded Randy to Oakland. Oakland traded him to New England. New England traded him back to Minnesota. Minnesota, I think Minnesota released him He went to Tennessee, and then he ended up with the 49ers. Damn, man. I just don't say it's icky business, huh? Icky business. Golly, just thinking about that, man. I mean, if you think about it, T.O. was a free agent, and there was some mix-up with the paper because he was supposed to go to Baltimore. Oh, no. He went going to Baltimore. Oh, no. I remember that. I remember that conversation. Oh, he wasn't going to Baltimore. Absolutely. Well, I mean, his name was kind of on the contract, but that's neither here nor there.

1:04:13Shannon Sharpe:That's kind of here nor there. We'll move on to that. And then he goes to Philly. We saw what happened to Philly. Philly released him. He goes to Dallas. He got released to Dallas. So we're talking about, bro, the Cowboys, you know the Cowboys released Emmitt, right? Yeah, they did, huh? Hey, it's nature of the business. It's grimy. That's why you got to get as much as you can. while you're in it. Yes. You get no qualms from your boy. Because we both have been on the ends and we know how this thing works.

1:04:50Shannon Sharpe:When you play a professional sport, money and memories, you try to gather as much of both as you can.

1:05:02Because it's going to end. at some point. It's a small window of your life. The NFL stands not for long because it's a small opportunity and the years go by so fast. You look up, you'd be like, well, God damn, I mean, you're seven already? Yeah. Yes. That's why you got to protect your chicken. The fun, that ride, man, it goes by so fast, like a roller coaster. You don't even realize it.

1:05:29Shannon Sharpe:Yep. Pete Carroll was asked today about Geno Smith obscene gesture as he defended his quarterback he said did you see the sign did you see what the sign said next question well we know what the sign said bigger bus Geno or Jamarcus Russell with Geno and Max Crosby over reacting

1:05:57hey I mean eh.

1:06:04That's a tough one. I wouldn't say overreacted. Boom, you're talking trash to me. You got a sign right in my face. All I've done for you. I'm back here in Seattle and that's what you think of me? I laid my life on the line as your quarterback number one for a couple of years. Things didn't work out and that's how you think of me? I'm coming back. I'm coming back with grace. I love you. I did everything I could for you as a Seahawk. And that's how you feel? Now you feel I'm a bust? what are we talking about huh if anything you should be applauding me clap for me I know as a quarterback number one you hold me to a standard as is is is in comparison to some of the greats I wasn't Tom Brady I wasn't Peyton Manning but I've done all I could and laid it on the line for you week in and week out 12.

1:06:49Shannon Sharpe:Well it's not even I mean it's not even close to being true. Now, if Geno Smith was Ryan Leaf, okay, we'll have a conversation about him or Geno, I mean him or Jamarcus. Don't do that as a fan. Like, come on, man. That's not... Geno was comeback player of the year. He threw a career-high 30 touchdown, lead the league in completion percentage, and earned back-to-back Pro Bowls. So, by no stretch of the imagination, is Geno Smith a bust? No. I mean, listen, fans do certain things to get up under your skin. You leave a situation, most of the time and you come back, some people let their true feelings show on how they really feel about you.

1:07:32Now, I understand you might be to the Seahawks, but all I've done, this is how you really feel about me, truthfully, now that I'm not here. Even if you're like, come on, man, don't do me like that. Yes. Don't do me like that. You mean I dated you for four, five, six, six years and now that I'm going wait this is how you truly feel about me now that I'm no longer around because I'm of no balance yes that hurts that stings so I can understand where the middle finger came from I understand like what are we talking about I sacrificed you to make you happy on Sundays at one o 'clock I was throwing touchdown to DK and Tyler Lockett to make you happy Noah Fant.

1:08:22Shannon Sharpe:A lot of players play for teammates' respect, coaches' trust, fans' appreciation. I guess you didn't appreciate me as much as I thought you did. So it does hurt. When you put what you put into it, LeBron might not ever admit this but it hurt him going back to Cleveland considering what he gave him yeah he left but bro I did lay it on the line for you I gave you seven great years did all I could and then you burn my jersey you say all these things Gino's like

1:09:12Shannon Sharpe:I resurrected resurrected my career in Seattle. All I wanted was to be appreciated. I know my teammates respect him. I know my coaches trusted me.

1:09:27Shannon Sharpe:Does when you put, when you put a lot into something, uh,

1:09:35Shannon Sharpe:granny used to say all the time, boy, I hate an ungrateful person. That irks me too. that irks me too. I hate ungratefulness.

1:09:55Shannon Sharpe:We see out of the best. Sometimes you better be careful what you wish for. I guess you that like

1:10:08Shannon Sharpe:Gino, well, Ain't no thing that you're getting What's his name from Minnesota? Sam Darnold Sam Darnold Ain't no guarantee He ain't got the weapons that he had in Minnesota He ain't got no Jetta, he ain't got no Addison He ain't got Hawkinson He ain't got Aaron Jones And he ain't got Kevin O 'Connor calling plays He got Jensen And we saw the last two games, right? Did you see the last two games?

1:10:44Shannon Sharpe:You got J. Oh, so what was the craziest sign you saw as a player? Oh, man, that's a good one, Uncle. That's a good one. Hey, oh, my goodness.

1:10:57Oh, my goodness. I enjoy those environments too, Uncle. I –

1:11:08oh my goodness the craziest sign probably the the the o the o the o o instead of ocho cinco probably ocho stinko yeah yeah yeah most of the time and it's so funny they would have their signs they would have their signs and i would talk trash back and you know i walk up to the stands and talk about.

1:11:30Shannon Sharpe:Didn't you sign what did they sign? Didn't you sign somebody's sign? Oh, we always sign that sign. And listen, they always say the same thing. Listen, we do this because we love you. It has nothing to say for the wrong team, but you won our favorites. And everybody say the same thing. They don't really mean it, but they don't have a choice but to go against me because we, I'm. If you really did suck, nobody says, the guy that they getting in the game, you suck. Right, right, right. It's only the players that's really good that suck, which means you don't, you don't actually suck, that means you're very, very good.

1:12:03Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody booing Tom Brady's backup. They booing Brady. They're not booing Peyton Manning. I guarantee you, if the quarterback, I mean, look, they're going to boo the opposing team, but the loudest boo, let's just say Tom Brady wasn't first. He was third. They're going to be looking for Brady because they want to boo him. You boo greatness.

1:12:32I love playing in hostile environments I love love I couldn't listen playing at home That's fun I like people cursing and talking trash That was just I was so Comfortable being uncomfortable In hostile environments

1:12:52Shannon Sharpe:Well y 'all rival Y 'all rival was Cleveland because remember when Sam White got on the phone and said don't throw batteries you live in Cincinnati you don't live in Cleveland yeah yeah you got that that was that was you guys because you're both in Ohio yeah battle of Ohio right so it's so it's a it's a natural it's a rivalry. I mean, look, there was no love lost before they renamed it the AFC North. It was the AFC Central. I think it was still the AFC Central when you got in. They changed it like in 02. They went to the four-team divisions because it used to be Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland,

1:13:48Shannon Sharpe:Baltimore, Tennessee and Jacksonville we were all in one division we were all in one division and then they split it up and then they took Jacksonville and Tennessee and put them in the south Seattle used to be in the AFC West then they went to the NFC West but it stayed the Chargers the Raiders us and Kansas City

1:14:22Shannon Sharpe:But when you got the Raiders, obviously the Raiders was our biggest rivals because they came in like the AFL together, the Chiefs.

1:14:36Shannon Sharpe:But it's definitely different playing on the road than at home. You feel it as you're driving in. Everybody's already tailgating. You know what I'm saying? They're already tailgating. and they do it. They throw in the football. They got their drinking beer already. I'm like, how the hell are y 'all drinking beer at 9 o 'clock in the morning?

1:14:57Shannon Sharpe:But they, you know, they getting their thing. They getting their big grilling. Cleveland. Cleveland fans. I love them. I will give them credit. I love them. For as little as they've won in the last 30-plus years, them mofos show up. I can understand Had they went to the AFC championship game Or they went to the Super Bowl And even if they lost But the way they show up for their team To not win More than what they do I ain't seen nothing like it Ain't no way I'm gonna go sit down there in the cold Let alone get up and tailgate For a team that's going 4-13 4-12 Oh, no. I had a special relationship with those Cleveland fans, especially Big Dog.

1:15:50I'm not sure what Big Dog is at this point. Every time I do, I'm on here and we talk about Cleveland. I'm always curious how Big Dog is doing. Everyone that sat in that, I think that might be the north end zone, they showed such love in a hostile way. And I made sure to show that love back, even though, obviously, they're the opposing fans. But I've always showed them respect. They've always showed me respect. and they knew, understood, when it was game time, huh? When it was game time? Man, forget you. We're going to have some fun. And I remember getting permission. I think I might be the only person that's done that and been accepting of that is when I did, I leaped in the dog pound.

1:16:28Remember? You remember when I jumped in the dog pound? And they pulled all that beer on your ass. So I asked Big Dog, I asked Big Dog. Before the game started, I said, listen, if I happen to score on this end, I want to jump to you. No disrespect, but let me jump to you. And he said, yeah, well, come on and do it. and long behold you know he one person right? yeah yeah big dog big man but there are more people in the town than him I know I know listen I scored on that end and I looked for him and I saw him I jumped right to him everybody else around man I smelled like beer to hold the rest of the game and then they shoved your ass out of the club but listen that was a great moment for me man that was a great moment you know Cleveland Brown

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