Nightcap Hour 1: Seahawks BLOW OUT the 49ers + Broncos BEAT the Bills + Bo Nix FRACTURES Ankle in Broncos Win

27:57Shannon Sharpe:Birmingham is where he'll have the surgery with Dr. Waltrip. and I don't really think there's any other questions. You know, in other words, this is just is what it is. And we felt like it'd be best to just tell everyone now. Man, hey, that's – I mean, Ojo, I mean, come on now. Damn, boy, that's a buzzer look. I know. I know. Yeah, that's bad luck. Listen, second play, the second to last play before the game, you know, after playing the entire game, I mean, that sucks, especially for Broncos fans. I'm sure, obviously, losing your starting quarterback, that changes everything. That changes the way your offense is called.

28:42That changes the way your offense is done. So now someone else has to step up. I'm not sure. Who is your backup? Let's get him.

28:50Shannon Sharpe:Started with the Patriots from Auburn, and then he went to the Raiders. Yes. I remember Stidham he's not Bo Nix I think he is capable of maybe winning you a game obviously listen to me now I'm trying to get you some hope I'm trying to get you some hope that's a young lady's name that's a young lady's name what hope so what you ain't got no faith bro we gonna face the Patriots or the Texans woo Woo. Hey, both two defensive dogs. Yes. And then if for some unforeseen reason, you get past them, there's a great chance you're going to play Seattle. Ooh. I saw with Seattle. I was in New York when Seattle did that 43-8 demolition job on us.

29:42Shannon Sharpe:I'm good. Yeah. So basically, you want to start packing your stuff for Cancun now or what? I'm going to enjoy this. I get 24 hours to enjoy this. Okay. You can't get right away. Don't feel bad about this. Yeah, I don't feel bad. He was elected in the fourth round of 2019 draft. Ocho, he's not in his first season with the Broncos, serving as a backup to Knicks for two of those. Stidham is one and three as an NFL starter. He last started a game in 23 when he went one and one over the last two games of the regular season. Stidham has thrown eight touchdowns and eight interceptions in 20 NFL games.

30:21Shannon Sharpe:the Broncos they get the ball they go right down the field little John Humphrey little Jordan Humphrey bro he dropped it he dropped a touchdown now he came back and caught one in the second Ocho but that's four points the same play that I think King K that caught the touchdown from the slot run the fade from the slot that's the same play little Jordan Humphrey dropped mm-hmm Corlin bro you a pro bowler you just signed an extension you on the last you dropped two passes you dropped two you gotta have that you're supposed to be their best their best wide receiver he is you can't have those drops in that situation everything is magnified especially in the playoff you know You don't get as many plays as you'd like.

31:16So the plays that you do get when the ball does come to you, they didn't go to court for a very long time. During the game, he wasn't in rhythm. He had to catch. He's one of those that's not going to complain. He's not going to say anything. He's going to run everything hard until the ball does come his way. So I kind of understand it, but he understands and he knows you can't have those drops. Those drops could have been costly. Obviously, it didn't cost you this game. But listen, the Broncos won the game. we need to talk about Josh Allen. Oh. We need to talk about Josh Allen. Four to five turnovers.

31:49He had four of their five turnovers. Yep. I mean, two interceptions. Two fumbles. The fumble, he got the ball. What are you doing carrying the ball like that, Ocho? Come on. Come on, man. You know, he should know better than that. Take a knee and get your ass into the locker room. Yeah, he's fast, but he's not that fast to not think pursuit is right there. They have the ball. holding it like a loaf of goddamn bread. Like, this was supposed to be the Bills' year. I said it multiple times because he didn't have to deal with Pat Mahomes, his kryptonite. He didn't have to deal with Lamar Jackson. He didn't have to deal with Joe Burrow.

32:25Shannon Sharpe:And he's the best quarterback. He was the best quarterback remaining on the AFC. He's out. But there's no doubt. He's better than C.J. Stroud. He's better than Drake May. He was the best remaining quarterback in the AFC. And he gagged. Yeah. And I told you at the beginning of the season, Buffalo, y 'all need to have some questions about Sean McDermott. Whoa, wait. We can't blame McDermott. We can't blame McDermott after that performance by 17. So what about the previous six games when Josh Allen didn't have any turnovers and you still lost? Okay, talk to me now.

33:04Shannon Sharpe:I mean, at least John Harbaugh, he got to a Super Bowl and won it. Mike Tomlin got the two 1-1 I mean we gotta have some conversation it's just not good you had the best quarterback you were the only one that had an MVP quarterback as a matter of fact nobody else had an MVP quarterback in the postseason you're the only one

33:33hey

33:34Shannon Sharpe:he put up a stinger and I'm trying to figure out the way you run in the football Why you got Josh Allen throwing the ball 39 times? James Cook got 24 carries for a buck 17. He's averaging basically five yards a carry. Josh Allen got averaging five and a half yards a carry. And you're throwing the ball. Yeah, so I got a question. You think it's time for a new voice over there in Buffalo, too? I think they're going to have a serious discussion. I think the Pagoulas are going to have a serious discussion with themselves. They got to ask themselves some questions because are you – I mean, think about it, Ocho.

34:12Shannon Sharpe:Are you closer? Are you closer? Remember, you got to the AFC Championship game last year. They put all this technology in to make sure because, oh, he got it. No, he didn't get it. Now they got this technology. When everything removed, when they had removed the hedge from around you for you to go. Ain't no Pat Mahomes. You don't have to go to Kansas City. You don't have to deal with Burrow. You didn't have to deal with Lamar, although you beat Lamar. But those are guys that are, Lamar is a two-time MVP. Joe Burrow has gone to your building and beat you. He's gone to Pat Mahomes' building and beat him.

34:52Shannon Sharpe:He was, you know, a couple of plays away from winning a Super Bowl. He's removed. The guy that's gone to five Super Bowls, won three in an MVP, league MVP, he's gone. and the guy in his second year

35:09Shannon Sharpe:what are we doing here the funny thing about it if there was a year for Buffalo to make it to the Super Bowl this yes this was it so I understand what happened in a game like today you need Josh Allen to be what we most of the we call him we give him that moniker as being Superman because he does less with more I mean he does more with less this is the game. He put up a sinker. He played bad. There's no ifs, ands, buts about it. How about this, Ocho? Bills in the postseason under Sean McDermott. Lost a wild card game round to Houston. Lost a championship in the championship game to KC. Lost a divisional to KC.

35:50Shannon Sharpe:Lost a divisional to Cincinnati. Lost a divisional to KC. Lost a championship to KC. Lost a divisional to Denver.

36:02You think about some of those turnovers, don't you think about?

36:10Well, who was that? Now, you think about some of those turnovers, don't you think about? I think the game changes because some of those are points. Yeah, for sure. Some of those are points, and it takes away your opportunity, your chances to win a game of this magnitude where points that are premium. Every series counts. Every time we have the ball, it counts. And the fact that they only lost by three with five turnovers lets you know that they let the opportunity slip right between their fingers.

36:44Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, all you got to do is take a knee, go in at the half. Now you're kicking instead of tie the game to go into overtime, you're kicking the game to win it. Come on, man. Sometimes you can be too cute. Sometimes you can get greedy. They got greedy. we got Josh Allen we got two timeouts let's see what we can do he didn't protect the ball Benito did a great job stripping him from behind then Benito did another job he hit him in his back he fumbled that ball Denver should have put that game away early because then when Benito hit him in his back they got the ball at the 19 yard line you get two yards I thought Sean called the game conservative at that point no I'm going for you I'm going for your throat yeah that's what I'm doing.

37:29Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to end it. Can you imagine, Ojo, if the score is, instead of 20-10, the score is 24 or 27-10? Now we got a whole different ballgame. But McMillan, that DB, 29, he made the play of the game. Yes, sir. Chat, I know y 'all say that was a catch. He should have been down. Let me explain it to you. It's called the Calvin Johnson rule. If a receiver catches the football and he in turn goes to the ground, he He must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the act called catching the football. I don't know how. Let me explain it again. If a receiver catches the football and he goes to the ground, he must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the catch.

38:18Shannon Sharpe:To make a long story short, and I made a short story long, he goes to the ground, he needs to get his ass up and hand the ball to the official. Yeah, yeah, yeah It's like It's called the Calvin Johnson rule Yeah, yeah, basically when he was playing Chicago Remember? And that was the catch He caught the ball and tried to get up And they challenged it And they won And obviously when I saw it Most of the time I call it somewhat of a bang-bang play in a sense Where you have to maintain possession of the play, and through the play where possession is supposed to be maintained, he took the ball away from you.

39:02He took the ball away from you. That was the play of the game. Because they're at the 20-yard line. They're going to kick a field goal and win it. Yep. Exactly. It's tough. I hate, and I said this, I tweeted this as well, is with a game like this, as close as it was, I hate for the refs to be the one to be... They're going to be maligned, but it was the right... Ocho, it was the right call. But the P.I. The P.I. on Davies White.

39:32Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, it was P.I., and they missed the other one earlier. Earlier, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we pulled his arm back. They missed one. They were P.I.'s. It wasn't like, man, I don't think that was a P.I. It was an obvious P.I. They missed one earlier, and they let them play for the most part. Yeah. You know what you just said? They let him play for the most part. But I would love some consistency. If you're going to let him play early in the game. We can't let you get that egregious with it, though, Ocho. Yeah, it was egregious. Troy Davis was a little early. I wish he would have looked back for the ball.

40:09He paid it. He paid it. He got beat off the line. When you get beat off the line of scrimmage, and then you in hurry-up mode trying to catch up, what's the first thing you can do? If that receiver slows down, then you can't take it slow it down. Yeah, you're going to run right up his back.

40:21Shannon Sharpe:That's exactly what it is. Bo, that's supposed to be a walk-off touchdown, but Bo didn't trust himself. So he put it up there knowing Mims was going to have to slow down and know White was going to run up his back. That's a touchdown. That's a walk-off touchdown. That's supposed to end the game. All he's supposed to do is let Mims run up. Yeah, I just hate the fact. I know it was P.I., but I hate the fact that it came down to the yellow flag. I hate that the end of the game and the game's decision-making ended up on the rest flag. It was P.I. I'm not saying it wasn't. I just hate that it ended the way it did.

40:58I do. I do.

41:01Shannon Sharpe:I could see, Ocho, if it wasn't like, it was kind of like when we had the conversation our first year old night cap with the Eagles and KC. Man, you can't throw the flag. The man came and told you, Bradford, the four, and said, I held him. I was beat. so the man tell you even the official when he explained it to the pool reporters what we saw is the guy gets beat he's pulling away and the guy he bought the option away and he tugs it Bradford came he said I did it I was hoping they didn't see it and Philly fans still and everybody talking about what they shouldn't have called it the man Ocho so if a man I robbed that bank I took that 15 million dollars man he ain't do it they shouldn't even arrest that man.

41:49Shannon Sharpe:He told you he did it. And he got the money to show you. You saw the man grab Juju's jersey. All he had is, like you said, they missed the first P.I. That really should have been P.I. And they didn't call him. I was like, well, damn. Are y 'all not going to call P.I. today? So Sean said, you know what? Let's dial it up again. Let's see either we're going to get a completion or we're going to force him to call it. one to the other and especially especially that situation that timing of the game once once i saw once i saw white get beat off that and then the bomb like that you ain't got no outro he ain't got no help he already know at all i got to get on my horse i got to get on my horse and the funny thing about it is what makes some of the greatest dbs in the NFL when you're in a

42:47bad situation oh there we go when you're at a disadvantage like that when you get beat can I still remain calm and collective when the ball is in the air and still be able to play the ball even though the man is in front of you that's hard to do boy

43:01Shannon Sharpe:it's even harder when you're in overtime so just imagine that's all in first quarter second quarter maybe there's a chance now it's first if the next score wins. They've had the ball. We've had the ball. They score, they win. So now, it ain't like the fourth quarter. Okay, our offense get a chance. They can go down and redeem this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. And when I looked, I was like, oh, he opened. And I saw him throw it. I said, why would you throw the ball like that when you're not confident, Ocho, and you don't want to overshoot it? Yes, sir. you try to just get him the ball knowing that he's going to, because I can see the ball I see the ball, the DB not looking back because he's in such a hurry to catch up with me, he's just going to run it's just like when you're not paying attention, you run slam in the back of somebody where if you're paying attention you don't run in the back of nobody, you feeling down with your phone or you go to answer your phone and you go bam, oh man, what happened you don't run dead in the back of somebody Ocho but it was it man, Ocho I think we got the record 119.7 decibels that's the line that plays with check that 119.7 I think we took that thing back from from Seattle or Kansas City I don't know, I think we got 119 unless somebody got more than 119 it's ours now I know, man, Kansas City or Seattle might have higher than 119.

44:42I could be wrong, but them two stadiums there, when it comes to that crowd... Seattle get loud. Well, you can't hear nothing, boy.

44:50Shannon Sharpe:See, I was getting back tracking stuff like that when it was in the Kingdome or the Astrodome when it was old, the House of Pain, that's what you used to call the Astrodome, the House of Pain, or the Kingdome or some of these old... But they didn't keep track of it back then. Here's Sean McDermott on that controversial call. It's hard for me to, and I've had a chance to look at, it's hard for me to understand why it was ruled the way it was ruled. And if it is ruled that way, then why wasn't it slowed down? Just to make sure that we have this right. That would have made a lot of sense to me, to make sure that we have this thing right, because that's a pivotal play in the game.

45:34Shannon Sharpe:we have the ball at the 20, maybe kicking a game-winning field goal right there. So I'll just leave it at that. But I'm saying it because I'm standing up for Buffalo, damn it. I'm standing up for us. Because what went on, that is not how it should go down, in my estimation. These guys spend three hours out there playing football, pouring their guts out, to not even say, hey, let's just slow this thing down. That's why I'm bothered. You're right. No. In my eyes, it was. Yes. In my eyes, it was.

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49:12Shannon Sharpe:Now, which play is he talking about? He's talking about the interception, the play to Cooks, in which McMillan took it out of his hands. Listen, Mr. McDermott has been around the game football for a very long time. Ms. Gernie understands the rules when it comes to the game of football. Even watching from the sideline, you had a field side. You have an eye view of what's going on. You know that's the interception. I'm a receiver. Even I understand that you have to have positions to catch and maintain it and get up with the ball. Because if he doesn't go to the ground, it's a catch. But once you go to the ground, Ocho, you must maintain.

49:50Shannon Sharpe:if the Dez Bryant Dez Bryant is the who Dez Bryant is Green Bay game no the moment you go to the ground so let that chat if you catch I don't know what y 'all rules are in the turkey league or your flag football league but if you catch a football and you go to the ground you gotta maintain possession of the football throughout the act of the catch and Buffalo it's hard but you know McMillan as he was going down McMillan was pulling the ball that's why he was able to come up with it

50:36that's a bang bang play is going to the ground I mean the receiver you want to do the best you can to grab that thing and have strong hands but obviously you you out you out here you out here with it so it's hard to bring that in and because you're out here and you you exposed you don't have much strength because it's not close

50:56Shannon Sharpe:to your body and because when he turned it made it made a stronger man when you turn ocho you bring the db into play now yeah now he got now he can do this and his momentum is carrying him over so he gonna pull it out yeah every time but think about it he pulled it out and held on to it a lot of times we see it pull out and it's incomplete yeah but the hair the play before see if cooks was a hands catcher he caught that one on the sideline remember he jumped up and caught it with his body he got his foot down and then he tried to brace himself and his hand touched down out of bounds yeah he caught it with his hands he got both feet down in bounds you have to understand where you are on the field but I thought look if I'm Buffalo I'm definitely bringing cooks back because I think I think he played I thought he played really well I mean he also he just got there like two days ago yeah he ain't been that long he ain't been that long but even if you don't bring cooks back you think about some of the options some of the options that you have there might be a shake-up there might be a shake-up with someone that's down there in Philly who might be a viable option to come in as your number one who would be tremendous to have for Josh Allen to have what I like to consider a true number one chat y 'all know exactly where I'm going with this you never know what can happen regardless of people talk about cap hits and all that I'm not sure if y 'all been following the game of football long enough, NFL teams don't care nothing about no cap hits.

52:37They'll make it work. NFL teams don't care nothing about no cap hits or how high it is. They don't care nothing about that, especially when situations have deteriorated as much as they have this year over there with some of the issues that they had. So I think they're probably going to move on from one of the best in the game, and there's a good chance he might end up in Buffalo.

52:56Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, pool report reasoning. Question, what did you see on the pass to Brandon Cooks that was ruled an interception by Jaquan McMillan, Carl Chaffers, who's the referee. The receiver has to complete the process of the catch. He's going to the ground. As part of the process, the catch, he lost possession of the ball when he hit the ground. The defender gained possession of it at that point. The defender is the one that completed the process of the catch, so the defender was awarded the ball. Question, did the ball hit the ground? No, that was confirmed in the replay process. The interception was confirmed.

53:35Shannon Sharpe:Now, he is an official. Now, I just told you the rule. I told you the rule. I tweeted it. Somebody, I said, this is what has to happen. When you go, Chad, this is the last time Ocho and I was going to explain it to you. Ocho is a receiver. I'm the DB. Ocho jumps up and catches the ball. If he stays on his feet, we good. But if Ocho goes to the ground and in the process of going to the ground, we hit the ground simultaneous and he loses possession and I come up with the ball. It's my ball. I completed the process, not Ocho. Ocho started the process. I appreciate him for doing that. I completed the process.

54:17Shannon Sharpe:That's my ball. Also chat with this hypothetical scenario that I'm just created. if he was a DB and I was a receiver, I would have scored a touchdown. That would have been a difference. I ain't letting you out. And they know this. In overtime, everything is replayed. Because they didn't want people challenging it. A touchdown, somebody had to burn a challenge flag because they thought it was a touchdown. Or that was a fumble. Or that was this. They said, you know what? We're going to let you save your challenges. the mere fact it was a change of possession they they they replay it i don't know why sean mcgermott burned the time out they replayed it it was a turnover all scoring and change of possession plays are automatically revealed yeah yeah and then and then and then to know the rules as a head case and stick up.

55:19You have to, you got to fight for your team. You got to stick up for your team. But like, come on now.

55:26Shannon Sharpe:You know that once Brandon Cook goes to the ground, he must maintain possession. If he'd have maintained possession, what that would have meant, Ocho? McMillan wouldn't have had the ball. How do you have something in your possession and then I got it in my possession? Right. And then, you know, some people aren't even going to listen. some people aren't going to listen you know the people that are not going to listen the people that Buffalo failed oh Shady you just saying that you just saying that because your team won no I'm saying that because that's the rules I just happen to know the rules I mean yeah I mean I wish look and I get it and in situations Ocho and I were talking about a little earlier is that PIs are really hard but they become excruciatingly hard the later you get to the game because you feel like that might have influenced or had some impact on the game.

56:25Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I hate that. But ask yourself, Buffalo fans, if the guy had dead Shakira like that, would you have wanted that play call? Yes or no?

56:38Yeah.

56:42Shannon Sharpe:how about your quarterback hold on to the football how about your quarterback not try to throw down the scene and read the backside safety right Josh Allen I mean for the mere fact that you was even in the game y 'all should I mean you play probably any other team you losing you you're in a situation like you're in a situation like San Fran in Seattle game over game over 4 turnovers? 5 oh 5 excuse me you do realize the god damn Seahawks capitalize off every turn over night every last one and the thing this game was about boy this game was about to get out of hand it was 7-3 Denver didn't do anything they got the ball back and they're going right back down the field and Singleton put a hit on James Cook?

57:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Take it. I mean, he picked him up off his feet. And Huff was right there, Johnny, on the spot. And they go right back down the field and they get a touchdown. But this thing was about to be like, oh, it's about to be 14-3. There are no inconsequential plays come postseason. Every play matters. every play matters and people don't well there ain't no one play because it's only it's like four or five plays that actually determine the outcome of the game every time it's four or five plays you can go back and look in the postseason it's because every play is it's it's it's very very important you just track it back we make this we do this but that was an interception they reviewed it I don't know he's talking about well they should have took a little bit more time how much time you want them to take it don't it don't change if they took you know what they just came back from the review it was an interception it don't matter how long it takes it doesn't change the outcome up?

58:55No. Mm-mm. And some people, I'm reading the chat as we sit here talking, some people still not listening. He hit the ground with the ball.

59:07Shannon Sharpe:I mean, like... He did. But, so let me ask you a question. If the ball... Let me ask you a question. He catches the football, he hits the ground and the ball pops out. Is that a catch? Why is it in the catch? He hit the ground with the ball. Mm-hmm. I can't read the chat but Ocho's saying he's reading the chat he said he hit the ground with the ball so if he hits the ground with the ball and the ball pops out what is that incomplete okay go to the ground as the receiver you must maintain possession of the football he goes to the ground he didn't maintain possession you know why because McMillan took it from him yeah McMillan and Carl Chepard's told you.

59:52Shannon Sharpe:It was the DB that completed the process of going to the ground and coming up with the football. Oh, yeah. The difference is McMillan was down by contact because Cook had touched him. If not, he could have got up and ran. Yeah. I mean, listen, it sucks. It's like you get your girl pregnant and she wait she wait three or four weeks to tell you why didn't you tell me it wasn't going to change anything I'm still pregnant it don't change nothing so if I'd have told you in March instead of telling you April what would that have changed I'm still pregnant so if they take 30 minutes they take 45 minutes they take an hour to review that call is still an interception is still the Broncos ball no matter what I know, but I get it.

1:00:51Shannon Sharpe:I get it. This was supposed to be your year because all the stumbling blocks, all the things that have stopped you in previous years removed, mainly Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes. Those two have been removed. And now you let a second quarterback come in. That's why I'm a firm believer in letting a coach pick his quarterback. Hmm. Sean didn't want Russ. I don't believe he had to belittle Russ like he did in Detroit. Hold on. I was talking to myself. Not to get off track. Oh, Sean, we were talking about A.J. Brown. They talking about A.J. Brown, too big of a cap, hit dead money. I said, is he more or less than what Russell Wilson was on the cap?

1:01:41Shannon Sharpe:I mean. If he ain't$85 million. I don't think people understand how this business works. I don't think they do. Because the first thing they do is they – NFL teams do not care about that dead cat paid money. They don't. When things have deteriorated, the relationships, the distractions, as they so call them, when it gets to the point where it is now, there's no going back. There's no going back. And obviously it's the Eagles fans. Listen, you love AJ. You love what he stands for. You love what he's done for the organization. But it's tough, man. It's tough. He's not happy. No, and the report that he had requested a trade, I don't know if that's true.

1:02:27Shannon Sharpe:Some reports could be erroneous and some could have some. There might be a little truth in it. There's a little truth even in the line. Oh, wait, it depends who it came from. It depends where the rumor came from. And if it's anonymous and someone that is somewhat of a credible source says it, it's coming from somewhere. Yes. It's coming from somewhere. They reviewed it. Ah, man. The NFL record decibel level is Arrowhead Stadium fans reached 142.2. Wow. I told you. I knew it. Way off. It was either Kansas City or Seattle. It was one or the other. Oh, Joe, we won 19, and that thing was like loud.

1:03:09Shannon Sharpe:So that's 23 short. Yeah, yeah. You played in Kansas City. Oh, Kansas City and Denver was the too loudest state as I ever played in. And it just so happened, you know, Denver was my home, and Kansas City, we played there every year. We played there every year for 12 years. So I got 12 trips. Well, I got 13 because we played them in the playoffs one year. Yeah. I only had one trip. and that one trip there I was like I ain't never never experienced like this and I'm like I'm curious all fans they sit in the stadium they all scream they all cheer they all boo whatever it may be and I'm thinking well maybe it's the way the stadium is built why is it that this stadium in particular sounds so much different than everyone else I mean it's I mean it's isn't I mean when it's so loud and I got to get right and you sit right next to me and you can't you can't I can't hear what you say unless I yeah that's when you know it's loud this it was it was crazy but I'm glad Carl Shepard's and normally the referee meet with pool reporters and they ask any controversial call or what this X Y and Z and he explained it to him possession of the football.

1:04:26Shannon Sharpe:Receiver goes to the ground. He must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the act of catching the football. He did not. And y 'all know it. So hopefully Ocho and I explained that to you guys really really well because I don't really know what else to say. Ocho, obviously emotions were extremely high in the Bills locker room after the game. Here's Josh Allen and Deion Dawkins after the game.

1:05:04Shannon Sharpe:It's extremely difficult.

1:05:09I feel like I let my teammates down tonight. He said he felt like he let you guys down. How do you react when your quarterback has done so much for you says that to you guys?

1:05:21Shannon Sharpe:He let us down.

1:05:30thanks to you tough

1:05:33Shannon Sharpe:I love that emotion because you know why I love it because I know how much they invested into him this is the kind of emotion that when you invest into it your relationship is ending after 5, 10, 15 years

1:05:51Shannon Sharpe:that's that hurt boy your child is after everything that you've done and you've invested so much and they get sidetracked temporarily, that thing hurts. I've been there, Josh. I've been there, Dion. Bro, don't let nobody are a big grown-ass man. Because everybody's going to say, man, if I'm making$40,$30,$40,$50, I don't care. See, the funny thing about it is people can't see past the money. People can't see past the money, but they don't understand all the work that you put in to be able to make that kind of money. A lot of sacrifice. training camp, all season program, hours and hours and countless hours of practice and film and studying, rehab.

1:06:37They don't understand everything that goes. People, fans of the game, they get to see the finished product go out there on Sundays. They don't understand the work you got to put in before Sunday gets there.

1:06:49Shannon Sharpe:Do you know how long it took them to get there? That's right. That's what it is. Think about how long it took them to get there. I mean, from the time a lot of these guys been playing football from the time they were seven, eight, nine years old, this is a lifetime of devotion. This is a lifetime of dedication. And I'm so close. I can see it. I'm so close. I can see it, Ocho. And every single year, and it doesn't get easier. I want you to know, disappointment does not get easier. It doesn't. even if you've had disappointment one year after the next it doesn't get easier it doesn't as a matter of fact it gets harder because as as as you suffer these disappointments as the years go by you realize yeah i got you less years to do this oh yeah oh that that window of opportunity is small that window of opportunity in the nfl in general is small and then you have to maximize the opportunities to make the playoffs or be able to make that run at getting to Lombardi.

1:07:56You were afforded opportunities for a while in your career. I was very fortunate. I went three and four years. Imagine being on my end. No, I don't know. Going into each season hoping, at least just hoping to have a winning season. You got me thinking about no Lombardi?

1:08:18Shannon Sharpe:Shit, I'm trying. Can we have a winning season first. Let's win. Let's get to the playoffs and then maybe I can shift my focus. Because right now I can't really see past that. I can't see that far down the road, don't you? It's dark and I ain't got no headlights on. Amen. Like I said, Chad, and just remove yourself if you've never been an athlete. But I'm saying, just imagine, the thing that you pour the most into, the thing that you sacrificed the most and it didn't go your way maybe you didn't get the job maybe you didn't get into the school that you wanted maybe you didn't get the grades that you wanted maybe you didn't get the promotion that you wanted you know what the funny thing about it is is everybody can be able to have a sense of how deon dawkins is feeling or how josh allen is feeling simply because maybe if you didn't play sports hell it could be a relationship you think about the years and the time you spent investing in something and not getting that return on it and then it ending and you're sitting there wondering like well god damn what did everything go wrong?

1:09:32Shannon Sharpe:What did I do? What could I have done differently? Better yeah because that's the thing it's the lifetime of regret that you look back at like what because nobody remembers all the great Superman, the Herculean plays that Josh Allen's made. No. All they remember, the man, I remember him in the divisional round, he turned the ball over four times. He had gone six games, he had turned the ball over. 16 total touchdowns, zero turnovers. And then today, he had four. They had five turnovers. And for that, you have five turnovers and still have to take a field goal in overtime to beat you, let you know you're close but close only matters if you're throwing grenades and you're slow dancing and if there's a chaperone there you're not going to be able to get that close

1:10:24I like that I ain't never heard that one

1:10:30Shannon Sharpe:it's tough man I know how Josh I'm feeling I felt the same way when we lost to Jacksonville exactly I held it together when I was on camera but when I got in that car

1:10:49you let it out huh

1:10:51Shannon Sharpe:as a matter of fact my girl she didn't even ride home with me I said ride home with your mom damn I already know I wouldn't be able to hold together yeah you didn't want to see you vulnerable huh it's okay to cry I know it is I already know because I had put so much blame on me I had dropped the two point conversion I had dropped the crucial third down I had put so much on me I couldn't let her see me break down because I know I was going to break down it's okay to be vulnerable I'd be crying on the show live in front of everybody I don't be caring

1:11:33Shannon Sharpe:plus I just wanted to talk to my brother I just needed to hear his voice because he's that soothing. He's that calm that let me know it's okay. Yeah. And that's what I got. So what Josh is feeling, what Deion Dawkins is feeling, I felt the same thing. I was just able to keep it. I was just able to hold it together on camera. But trust me, when I got in that car. Yeah.

1:12:01Damn, huh? I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that, man.

1:12:04Shannon Sharpe:Boy.

1:12:08I mean, you play shitty, boy.

1:12:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I caught a touchdown, Ocho. I'm feeling good, Ocho. Put emotion, went down. I was like, you know, I put a move on Ocho. They put me in motion. Yeah. Got up to sleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Caught like a 20-something yard, 27-yard touchdown. We were hyped. Go back down the field. Scored again. Two points because we kicked two field goals. Then we got a touchdown. And Mike said, we got to go. We're going for two. Going for two. Yeah. Oh, man. I still Damn uncle you drop it Hey you sorry man You sorry Remember what I say The mind replayed what the heart can't delete I was heartbroken I replayed that over and over I mean Think about it I won three Super Bowls I was a multiple time All pro pro bowl player I'm in the pro football hall of fame every state that I've ever lived in I'm in the sports hall of fame I'm in the division 2 hall of fame I'm in the black college hall of fame that play damn that play I still think about it and don't worry about it now boy that was a long time ago boy it is I mean sometimes I find myself I mean you know I just be I find myself just thinking like damn what if but then I flip side I said well Shannon that was the catalyst for you guys to go get back to back but then I start talking to Burns I start talking man you know we should have three peated then all of a sudden all those emotions that I felt so many many years ago start coming back dang I I try to be I think that's one of my problems because I try to be a perfectionist I try to do every single thing right.

1:14:05Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. And I try to take every step to make sure it's right. And when it's not, boy. It hurt. You got to understand, you're human, man. You're human. As much as we want to be perfect in all that we do. Yes, yes. My sister tell me that all the time, Mocho. Yeah, human error is inevitable. No matter how much we try to perfect our craft or perfect the way we walk, you know, in the steps of the big man upstairs. Man, we all backslide at some point. We all fall short at some point. And then the thing is, I go to Baltimore and I'm known as the Jaguar killer. Two game winning touchdowns against them jokers.

1:14:53Shannon Sharpe:Set up another game winning field goal. Yeah. I was like, okay. Okay, okay, Jack. I like that. Okay. Hey, hey, hey. Yeah, yeah. I declawed him. Give him claws. You can't do nothing. Who are the claws? I declawed him. Let me stop for, you know, Pete will be talking all crazy, reckless. They got mad at Kim Kardashian because she went and bought some dogs and didn't go to the pound. Ocho. Yeah. We're going to put this loss on Josh. uh yeah yeah oh we and we put it on every other quarterback when they lose this is on we gave a ton of credit last week against jagged it well joe a game a lot game a lot game a lot the onus on that win with josh allen so the onus on this loss is on josh allen he didn't have four turnovers he played like doo-doo what he played like doo-doo I ain't talking about any kind of doo-doo.

1:15:54I'm talking about like diarrhea, like slippery. Yeah, like messy. Hey, tonight was bad for 17, boy. You know, and I'm not one to really criticize, but I've gotten better at being able to express myself when someone doesn't play up to par. Based on the standards of being an MVP caliber quarterback and not having to deal with your nemesis.

1:16:18Shannon Sharpe:No, he ain't no MVP caliber quarterback. He an MVP. He got it. He got the award last year, remember? I bet. You right. You right. Yeah. Hey, bro. Hey, you know who Mr. Hankey is? You on Wild South Park? I don't know. Yeah, well, Josh Allen played like Mr. Hankey tonight. I let Ash or Jordan, they can tell you who Mr. Hankey is, but he played like Mr. Hankey tonight, bro. For the most part, if it ain't, if we're not critiquing a movie for a Netflix or a movie house, if it ain't sports

1:16:56Shannon Sharpe:someday I go if sports we got less to say we're going to be off Tuesday and Wednesday

1:17:06Shannon Sharpe:if the Lakers not playing my TV won't even come on I'll go days without even TV even coming on and like I said if I ain't got a watch to talk about it on nightcap TV ain't coming on I have to give my line a break because I mean bro I go I'm all in I mean I make it look easy because I enjoy what I do I love what I do this is my passion I'm passionate God has blessed me with tremendous recall he's blessed me with the ability to express myself and have a way with words and I can make people laugh I can be serious when I need to be but sometimes you just have to turn your mind off on Joe and it's hard I could turn my mind off and not watch TV, but then I'm like, try to go to bed, and I just sit there, two, three hours at a time.

1:18:02Shannon Sharpe:I mean, sometimes I go to bed like after nightcap. I look at my watch, it's like 2 o 'clock in the morning, knowing I got to get up over 6.30, because I just go bark one time. right I mean it's time to go and then he barked two times and then I said well I gotta get up cause he gonna wake the little ones up so Josh bro I feel you now don't think I ain't gonna put a lot of this blame on you I empathize with you now I do you end it dog but just know

1:18:45You know Play like some stir fry

1:18:48Shannon Sharpe:Oh Joe did you see the flag plant before the game The flag plant Hey um Man I've seen that jacket you had on Forget the flag plant Yeah yeah Look at that Hey Where that jacket I don't know where you got that from That jacket 27 years old That jacket 27 years old Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

1:19:18That thing went nice. Hey, that's the first thing I saw. I saw the video when you got out of the truck. I'm like, what's that in? I'm right on. That thing went nice, Jeff. You know, Jeff Hamilton.

1:19:31Shannon Sharpe:Actually, he going to make us a nightcap jacket. For real? Oh, man. Hey, I need a lawyer. But, hey, you know, when we go to Santa Clara now, you know it's going to be cold up there all week. He won't be able to turn it around that quick. It's like a two-month, yeah, because these are handmade. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Hey, let me see my, I was talking to Ocho, I didn't see the flag plant. Run it back. Yeah, run that thing back, run that thing back. Please control our own destiny. This is glorious. Here we go. Let's get loud. Let's get ready.

1:20:22Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Yeah, yeah.

1:20:29Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Yeah, you got to your height. Little flag playing. Okay, I see you. You should have me out there on the field. Let me play that thing. No, what you should have done is you should have rode the horse out the goddamn tunnel. I told you, man. Hey, you got to make a statement, man. When you get an opportunity to go back to the stadium, you don't go too often. You got to come in there with some style and grace. I made a statement one time when I skydived in the statement. That was the last statement I was making in mile high. Other than that, I'm getting my ass out of vehicle. Hold on. You skydived?

1:21:02Shannon Sharpe:I skydived in the mile high. Well, when was that? 2009. Well, you're a dead devil. I used to do something. I know. Hey, so that means you won't have no problem getting on the back of one of them bowls with your boy, huh? Not with these hips. Oh, no. Man, you wasn't here, Ocho. Man, my knee still hurt from bowling. I almost pulled my glute. That's why I started throwing the ball like that because I couldn't get into the slide. Man, my glute. Don't laugh, Ocho. Man, my glute on fire, man. Hold on, speaking of all, you told the chat how I whooped you and I? No, I ain't tell nobody. We holding up on that.

1:21:43Shannon Sharpe:But you know who bragging, though. I just want you to know who bragging. Oh, yeah. He talking heavy, huh? Damn, man. Okay. Okay. See? Okay. I got something. Oh, yeah. I got something. Oh, I definitely got to get Joe. He already know it.

1:22:04Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, how's Brazil? Hey, Unc, man, listen.

1:22:13I don't know how to explain it. Hey, chat, Unc, you don't really watch soccer like that. But I had the opportunity, man. I had the opportunity to meet Brazilian Ronaldo, who is arguably the greatest complete non-linguistic striker. no Ronaldo you know me I know Ronaldinho like this we were cool but I never had the opportunity to meet Ronaldo the Brazilian Ronaldo who won the World Cup um 2004 oh I forgot I think it was 2004 um I felt like a little kid um I felt like a little kid um I don't think I don't I it's hard to explain meeting someone of that magnitude that that you have been a fan of for years and you You always watch videos.

1:23:05You watch highlights. You was able to see him when you were in high school, watch him play, knowing how great he was, and finally being able to be right there up close in person with him and talk. And his English was okay. And it was like, I'm not calling him a god. I'm not calling him a god. It's like godlike. Like to see him walk into that stadium and see all the Brazilian fans, oh, they went crazy. They went crazy. And people in the chat, unless you understand soccer, it'd be hard for you to understand that feeling I had. And then I met Neymar, Neymar as well. Y 'all your first time meeting Neymar?

1:23:46My first time meeting Neymar. First. I done met everybody else, and this is my first time meeting Neymar. And to meet both of them at the same time within a 10-minute span, I tweeted, I know what it felt like to get drafted by the Bengals. I know what it felt like to get that phone call. and today the butterflies the nervousness of of meetings players of that magnitude it it almost trumps that feeling of drafting getting that phone call from mike brown like down like um i'm to buy unbelievable i don't know who is someone that you enjoy watching them in their respective craft and if you ever had the opportunity to meet him it's like wow i can't believe it.

1:24:31Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I told you, the only man I ever thought, like, he was levitating was Michael Jordan. Everybody tell the same story. You know that feeling? You know that feeling when you met Mike? Bingo. Same thing. Same thing. And to meet two legends at the same time, I thought, it was unbelievable. And you know what's funny? I had on this jersey, the jersey I have on right now, Grimio is a team here in Brazil where Ronaldinho played when he was younger. and they made me take the jersey off at the stadium I was at because the stadium I was at is where Palmeiras plays and it was the rival so they it was somewhat of a disrespect in a sense they made me take my jersey off and had to put something else on but outside of that people here in Brazil oh pure class showed love uh it was awesome I played here in the Kings league the little 7v7 league it was awesome I believe I can't say anything now but I was able to sit down with some some good folks and uh for those that are in the chat that enjoy the game of soccer I have some very special for y 'all uh coming up for world cup that you're gonna love if you if you love the beautiful game you're gonna like it you're gonna like it I'm Daniel Alarcon and this is my friend is much more famous than I am I wouldn't go that far but I'm John Green co-host to the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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