Nightcap Hour 1: Shedeur Sanders NAMED to NFL PRO BOWL + Cleveland Browns in COACHING LIMBO + Seahawks Tariq Woolen joins NIGHTCAP

27 Jan 2026 · 59 min · 20 chapters

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Episode Title

Nightcap Hour 1: Shedeur Sanders NAMED to NFL PRO BOWL + Cleveland Browns in COACHING LIMBO + Seahawks Tariq Woolen joins NIGHTCAP

Hosts

  • Shannon Sharpe
  • Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson

Episode Highlights

  • Shedeur Sanders Named to Pro Bowl (0:00 - 27:23)
  • Shedeur Sanders has been selected as a Pro Bowl replacement in his rookie season.
  • Discussion on the merit of his selection amid criticisms that other players with better statistics were overlooked (e.g., Trevor Lawrence).
  • Shannon and Ocho reflect on the declining prestige of the Pro Bowl compared to previous years.
  • Cleveland Browns' Coaching Issues (27:23 - 47:57)
  • The hosts discuss the ongoing issue of coaching vacancies with the Cleveland Browns, highlighting that many prospective coaches are hesitant to take the position.
  • Reasons cited include organizational dysfunction and uncertainty at the quarterback position.
  • The hosts elaborate on the Browns' struggles since their return to the NFL and how it affects the perception of the franchise.
  • Tariq Woolen's Apology (47:57 - 54:54)
  • Tariq Woolen, of the Seattle Seahawks, apologizes for a taunting penalty that occurred in a recent game against the Rams.
  • Ocho emphasizes the importance of controlling emotions during high-stakes games and the need for players to learn from such experiences.
  • Cooper Kupp's Departure from the Rams
  • Discussion on the contentious nature of Cooper Kupp's release from the Rams, including allegations that the Rams attempted to control his market value after he became a free agent.
  • Ocho and Shannon reflect on Kupp's career achievements and how he rebounded after the Rams' decision to part ways with him.

Key Takeaways

  • Pro Bowl Selection: The significance of being selected for the Pro Bowl has diminished over time, and the criteria for selection may not always reflect a player’s true performance.
  • Coaching Opportunities: The Cleveland Browns' difficulty in attracting head coaching candidates highlights ongoing dysfunction within the franchise.
  • Player Accountability: Tariq Woolen's situation serves as a reminder of the high intensity and emotions involved in professional sports and the need for players to manage those emotions effectively.
  • Business of Football: The conversation around Cooper Kupp illustrates the complexities of player contracts and organizational decisions in the NFL, shedding light on the business side of football.

Discussion Points

  • How the Pro Bowl’s prestige has changed over the years and its implications for players and fans.
  • The perception of the Browns as a coaching destination and what needs to change for the franchise to attract top talent.
  • The psychological aspect of player performance in high-stress situations and the importance of emotional control on the field.

Conclusion

This episode of Nightcap blends sports analysis with personal anecdotes and broader discussions about the NFL, showcasing the insights of two former players. The hosts provide a mix of humor and serious commentary, making it an engaging listen for sports enthusiasts.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.

Chapters

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Chad Ochocinco's Singing Aspirations

6:39 to 11:16

Explore Chad's childhood dream of singing with the Mississippi Mass Choir.

“Tickets for our Super Bowl show in San Francisco are on sale now.”

Pro Bowl News for Shadur Sanders

11:16 to 14:02

Discussing Shadur Sanders' unexpected Pro Bowl selection amidst controversies.

“years ago chad i mean if you don't understand uh for those of you that don't know about the Mississippi Mass Choir, please do your homework on them.”

Shadour Sanders Named to Pro Bowl

14:02 to 17:04

Discussion on Shadour Sanders' Pro Bowl selection amidst controversy.

“And, oh, my goodness, you don't understand how excited I am.”

The Value of the Pro Bowl Today

17:04 to 20:30

Exploration of how the Pro Bowl's significance has changed over time.

“There's a great chance that they reached out to these guys and they're like, nah, I'm good.”

Reflections on Pro Bowl History

23:12 to 28:00

Discussion of past Pro Bowl experiences and the honor associated with it.

“So I don't really have a problem with this.”

Shadour Sanders and the Pro Bowl Honour

28:00 to 28:39

Discussing Shadour Sanders' Pro Bowl selection and its significance.

“eight times, I guess there's really nothing to be complaining, but eight times in 14 years, that's pretty good for a guy that went in the seventh round.”

The Changing Landscape of Pro Bowl

28:40 to 31:04

Reflecting on the evolution and meaning of the Pro Bowl over the years.

“Therefore, as far as the pecking order goes, he was next in line, so therefore he's a Pro Bowler.”

Food Preferences and Nostalgic Memories

31:05 to 32:08

A light-hearted discussion about favorite breakfast foods and memorable meals.

“And staying at the Iheilani with that goddamn French toast.”

Cleveland Browns Coaching Dilemma

34:00 to 37:10

Analyzing the challenges faced by the Cleveland Browns in hiring a head coach.

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The Pressure of Coaching and Success

37:11 to 42:00

Discussion on the pressures of coaching and the sacrifices required for success.

“who's always on the positive side of things.”
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The Obsession of Greatness

42:00 to 43:20

Discussion on the mindset and sacrifices of elite athletes.

“I'm never going to knock somebody for what they choose as important to them.”

The Journey to Mastery

43:20 to 45:50

Exploring the importance of repetition and discipline in achieving success.

“They went straight upstairs and started breaking down film.”

The Challenge of Commentary

45:50 to 47:50

Insights into the difficulties of sports commentary and engaging storytelling.

“Whereas before, he would never, when the guy was talking to him, he would look instead at the camera as opposed to taking the question, listening to the guy listening to him and talking, and then turn to the camera.”

Coaching Changes and Player Development

47:50 to 50:15

Analysis of coaching situations and their impact on player careers.

“and I'm sure the guys do a great job, but what they do, I don't need told me.”

The Plight of Star Players

50:15 to 52:10

Discussion on the struggles of star players in losing organizations.

“I know Miles Garrett is making money and he's still not making as much as he should be making, considering the type of player that he is.”

Injury Comebacks in Football

52:10 to 54:04

Exploring the challenges and successes of players returning from injuries.

“not getting better as a matter of fact i think we're starting to take a step back calvin johnson That's why he left.”

Emotional Control on the Field

54:04 to 56:00

The importance of managing emotions during high-stakes games.

“did James Andrews do was it Andrews that did AP surgery or Elitrosh?”

Emotion Management in Sports

56:00 to 58:10

Learn about the importance of controlling emotions in high-pressure sports situations.

“you're not gonna cross your team, obviously emotions were very high, he made a good play He was excited.”

The Cost of Super Bowl Tickets

58:10 to 1:02:32

Discuss the rising costs of Super Bowl tickets and the implications for true fans.

“Yeah, it's, look, a lot of this stuff, I mean, the advertisers, they spend so much and they get a block of tickets.”

Cooper Kupp's Controversial Departure

1:02:32 to 1:06:48

Explore the details behind Cooper Kupp's exit from the Rams and his subsequent success.

“Ocho, before joining the Seahawks last offseason, Cooper Cupp's departure from the Rams was more contentious than initially appeared.”
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5:19Shannon Sharpe:Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite up, and that is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own, Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree, Madding's ratings adjuster, that is Chad Ochocinco Johnson. and please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you personally for your support and your continued support because everything that Nightcap has been able to accomplish, views, likes, mentions, awards, that's all because of you.

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7:09Ocho, I heard you've been practicing.

7:13Shannon Sharpe:Now, we can't definitively say chat, but there might be a situation where Ocho gets an opportunity to sing with a very, very, very world-renowned quiet. Wait, wait, wait. Now, we're still trying to work out some logistics and some details, but there is a possibility, Chad. Ocho is going to have to put those chops and those vocal cords to the tent. Hey, are you serious? Absolutely, we are. I mean, this is one of the best surprises that I could have ever gotten. This is better than any birthday gift, any Christmas gift, anything I've ever gotten because it's always been my dream because of football.

7:50Hey, Chad, for those of you that are in the chat right now. Now, there's only one renowned choir. There's only one great, often imitated, never duplicated mass choir that I loved and adored since I was a child. The legendary Mosey Burks, the Mississippi Mass Choir. That's the only choir I can think of. One that only because the NFL got in the way of my career in being the lead singer for the Mississippi Mass Choir. That's where I belong. So if you're able to pull this off, you know what? I give you$5 ,900. I double and triple it. I give you$5 ,009 ,000. Like if you're able to pull this off and I'm able to sing a song and lead the choir, where would this happen at, huh?

8:44Shannon Sharpe:At the live show. Oh my God.

8:52Shannon Sharpe:I don't know about lead, but I think they'll let you join in and you might have one little lead little song. Little lead. Hey, one thing about it, boy. They say dreams come true. Now, I'm not one to make fun of stuff, but this is almost like the Make-A-Wish Foundation. This is something for me. This is something that means so much to me. And the fact that I would probably want to lead a song, depending on what song we want to sing, I'm hoping we can lead with some of the songs that are really my strengths. Blessed Assurance.

9:29Obviously, Near the Cross is a very, very, very, very good one for me. I'm Not Tired Yet. Oh, my goodness. there's so many in my back pocket, so many that I can leave with. Like, oh, this is, you know what, I'm going to tear up a little bit. Let me get the tissue.

9:51Shannon Sharpe:Well, the song that I really want them to sing, and I think the chat would like for them to sing, is I'm pressing on. They're really known for that song, and I don't know if anybody can do it quite like they can. So maybe you can join in with that one. But we're working on an Ocho. We're trying to get an opportunity. and we're trying to work on logistics and everything like that and so uh we'll we'll we'll know something here in the cup in the coming days but that's not the only thing we got a couple of other acts uh as you mentioned we got la russell going to perform and we gotta we're working on some things that if that comes through um man hold on i i missed it i went to go get tissue because i cheered up a little bit what song did you say you wanted to hear i'm pressing on what you know about i'm pressing on what you know hey oh my oh my goodness and if we can make if if if if if like i said we'll know something here in a couple of days in the next two or three days we'll have something ironed out concrete but there will be several like i can say this there will be several acts performing before we actually get up there and do our thing so uh we're very excited uh we're very excited that people want to be a part of this and uh we personally can't thank them enough so uh we're looking forward to uh getting this thing ironed out no show and let you have your wish and you get an opportunity to sing with the world right now mississippi mass choir this should have happened this should have happened years ago chad i mean if you don't understand uh for those of you that don't know about the Mississippi Mass Choir, please do your homework on them.

11:28They have a multitude of albums you can go through. Obviously, my favorite song is Near the Cross. You can check out also the Mississippi Children's Choir as well. I was supposed to be the lead singer for the Mississippi Children's Choir during those times when I was a little younger. But obviously, football got in the way, me training, me having to go to school. um i wanted to be homeschooled but my my grandma wouldn't play that uh my grandma was the eastern star uh she was a a a a a huge uh church woman uncle i'm talking about monday tuesday wednesday friday saturday sunday she's in church no any any reason any reason she gonna be at church she gonna be at bible study so she always i grew up in the church so i mean the fact that i'm getting this opportunity to finally sing and and live out my childhood dream with the mississippi mass choir would be an honor it would be an honor for me so i'm excited i'm excited well we're excited also

12:28Shannon Sharpe:like i said we'll know something here in the next couple of days uh chad i think the thing is chad what we try to do and i told you this from the very very beginning is that when ocho and i we take to the road we try to make sure that not only are you entertained by us but if there is something that we can do while we're in that area to offer and make sure you're entertained by other acts, we're always going to try to do that. And so we're constantly reaching out. So sometimes we're fortunate enough and we're able to get people. Sometimes they have prior commitments. Sometimes they're not in town and we're not able to make things like that happen.

13:03Shannon Sharpe:But if there's any chance that when we take to the road and we can make it happen, Ocho, remember in New Orleans, we had the - Southern University, yeah. We got those guys. That's what we're always going to try to do. We're always going to try to have a group. We're always going to try to have something to entertain you, other than Ocho and myself. This looks very, very promising. Next two to three days, we should have something ironed out. But we're also working on another act. So we're trying to have at least three. We know we got – there's a potential – there's 85 % of two. We know that 85%.

13:48Shannon Sharpe:But there's this third act. If we can get this, this will be unbelievable. This will be a momentous occasion. And everybody else is going to try to copy what we do. But they can't do what the night cap can do. No disrespect to them. But this is one-on-one. This is one-on-one. And, oh, my goodness, you don't understand how excited I am. Golly. It's going to be dope, man. All right, Ocho. In an unexpected, Shadur Sanders has been named to the Pro Bowl. Shadur will replace Drake May, who will be playing in Super Bowl 60. Shadur is part of the AFC quarterbacking group. That includes Josh Allen and Justin Herbert, who could also require replacement after getting surgery in December to repair a fractured hand.

14:33Shannon Sharpe:Only four AFC quarterbacks ranked in the top ten for fan voting. Josh Allen, Drake May, Patrick Mahomes, and Bo Nix. Mahomes and Knicks are both out with injuries, so that allows Shadour to get the nod. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Aaron Rodgers, obviously bigger names, didn't make the cut over Shadour. Yes, sir. Ocho, what are you thinking? Obviously, a lot of people are upset. A lot of people are saying that Shadour Sanders didn't deserve this. Obviously, when you look at the stats statistically, there are so many other suitors that could have gone to the Pro Bowl. Honestly, this is one that is a bit confusing to me.

15:09As much as I love Shadour Sanders, There are many others that should have gotten that opportunity to go. I am happy that he's been awarded and afforded the opportunity to go to the Pro Bowl in his first year. But maybe you can clarify and give me a little bit more clarity as to why the other players who had better seasons statistically didn't go. Mainly a Trevor Lawrence. Is that the name you want to throw out there? I was getting ready to say Trevor Lawrence. So, I mean, can you explain to me? You might be able to help me understand a little better.

15:44Shannon Sharpe:Maybe, obviously, Ocho. Maybe it's a situation where the fan vote, they're like, because you got to think about it, Ocho. They're down to like their sixth or seventh alternate. The Pro Bowl does not have the same recognition that it once did. It used to mean something to go to the Pro Bowl, Ocho. Who are you telling? It used to mean something. And when you look at that ball and you see all those names, you saw the Elwes and the Marinos and the Tom Brady and the Peyton Mannings. And the guys, like I said, it wasn't like a regular season game, but guys cared. There was none of this two-hand touch.

16:20Shannon Sharpe:And, you know, I've read some of the comments. He didn't deserve to go. It happens. He's not the first alternate to ever make the Pro Bowl. He's not. He's not going to be the last alternate to make the Pro Bowl. We saw, Ocho, remember we saw Huntley just a few years ago make it. Because nobody really wanted to go. First of all, I don't know where it's going to be. Is it San Francisco this year? Because it used to be, Ocho, it used to mean something. You go to Hawaii. You get a vacation. You get to take your wife to Hawaii. Your girlfriend, your family get to tag along. It meant something to go across the water, to break bread.

16:54Shannon Sharpe:You're drinking the Mai Tais, the blue Hawaiians. It normally meant something. It doesn't have the same cachet. But congratulations to Shador. And like I said, Patrick Mahomes was hurt. Bo Nix is hurt. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. The other names would have gone. Not that far down as an altar. I don't think Lamar is going. There's a great chance that they reached out to these guys and they're like, nah, I'm good. Aaron Rodgers is like, nah, I don't need that trip. Lamar is like, nah, I got other things to do. So I think the thing is that the other guys, Lamar, Joe, Aaron Rodgers, probably Trevor Lawrence, they probably have popped it out.

17:38I mean, listen, if it was like it was back in the day when we were playing actually and it actually meant much more to go to the Pro Bowl, the achievement of making the Pro Bowl, it was unbelievable. You understand? This is a real trip, a real treat that you get to go. You got to fly 10 hours. I don't care where you live. It's a 10-hour flight. your family goes and you know you you there all week and you really played there was no there was no bull jab it wasn't no shucking and jiving you enjoy those those first three quarters and we get to that fourth quarter it's time to tighten up and we got to play ball it's time to turn up and we playing ball so i mean it's different now obviously the game has evolved uh the players also trying to protect themselves especially if you're in a contract here they don't want to get hurt but Hey, hey, man, it was a, oh my goodness.

18:30Shannon Sharpe:You remember that? And what I don't like about it now, Ocho, that was also the time that the team that won the Super Bowl, that got an opportunity to come over to the Pro Bowl and everybody got him on the back. And congratulations, hell of a job, man. I was rooting for you, X, Y, and Z. Now you, I mean, there are some players that's going to, I mean, and I get it. Like I said, it's not, you still, that's still on your resume. So no matter what you think, Shadour Sanders, whether he makes a number or not, when it's all said and done, he'll be a one-time Pro Bowl player. So how he got there is unimportant.

19:00Shannon Sharpe:Nobody's going to remember five years, 10 years, 15, 20, 30 years from now that he was an alternate and got selected to the Pro Bowl. But I love the fact that after, you know, I was very fortunate to win a couple of Super Bowls and was a Pro Bowl player at that time and got an opportunity to go over and receive my congratulations and receive that, you know, Daryl Green and a lot of Ray Browns and the guys like, hey, man, sign this champ. And you got an opportunity to put those Roman numerals up there. It meant something. It really did, and I wish the NFL would go back to that and let these guys that made the Pro Bowl, that are in the Super Bowl, they get an opportunity to go because they get an opportunity to go fraternize and see some of the guys.

19:39Shannon Sharpe:A lot of the guys you only see in passing, Ochoa, you play against them, and that's it. But you get an opportunity to meet people's family. You take pictures with people's wives and kids and their father-in-laws and things of that nature. So it's a huge honor. But congratulations, Shadour. Look, no matter what, people are going to be upset about it. He didn't deserve to go. But they had to have somebody else, and it seems like these other guys weren't interested in it. So, I mean, what do you want them to do, just send two guys? Hey, Justin Herbert could have easily opted out because he had surgery on his non-throwing hand.

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23:11Shannon Sharpe:A moving target. So I don't really have a problem with this. The only thing I wish is that I just wish the guys took it a little bit more serious and it didn't have to come to this, that they ended up cutting it out and then making a skills competition because it used to mean, and don't tell me this, oh, well, no, because the guys played. The guys played for 50 years. 50 years, Ocho, they played. and now all of a sudden you mean to tell me and I don't know what year it happened but I remember it happening and I was like, because you remember the hit that Sean Taylor laid on the corner I mean guys wouldn't clean your clock if you go across the middle guys let you come down and tackle you guys wouldn't try to level no crack back blocks or anything like that but the NFL did the only thing that they could if they wish they had to cut it out because guys wouldn't take it serious and so now it's a skills competition.

24:13Shannon Sharpe:I mean they played a flag game and that's why I proposed my whole thing and obviously I think there's enough of the older players, the past players, there's enough of us that are still in somewhat short of shape and I just thought You know, it would be exciting if they knew ahead of time preparing themselves to go against the younger generation. I think it would be fun because you're not out there. Man, ain't but two of y 'all in shape, man. Ain't nobody stealing shape like that. No, but I'm just saying, the fact that they're not playing for real, it's just to enjoy yourselves, I think it would be cool for the fans, you know, to be able to see the younger generation go against the older generation.

24:54Hey, we're not going all out, but we're just out there having a good time. That's all. I just thought.

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24:59Shannon Sharpe:I mean, the only thing you possibly could do is have the quarterbacks to throw, but they would need to give them like six months to throw so their arm don't fall off after that Saturday. I don't know. I just thought it would be something really dope and something that you would never see a crossover like that unless you play Madden. So to be able to see it in real life, in real time, some of the former legends playing with some of the current stars today, it would be dope to see them share the field. Ocho, you know, I don't know if you got an opportunity to make it, but But it used to be the Pro Bowl.

25:31Shannon Sharpe:Look, the Pro Bowl was an honor, but everybody wanted to make All-Madden. They wanted to make the All-Pro, and then they wanted to make the Pro Bowl. Because if you made All-Madden, he actually had to see you play. So that means you got the number one team, be it CBS or Fox. So that's what that meant. You got the number one team. So that means John Madden and Pat Summeroff, rest their soul, were seeing you play. And when you got that jacket or you got that trophy, That sweatshirt that they used to give you. At first, Ocho, they gave you a trophy. The trophy had to weigh like 25 pounds. So I'm not bulljiving.

26:10Shannon Sharpe:They gave you a trophy. They gave you a leather jacket. They gave you a sweatsuit. They gave you a sweatshirt. And they gave you a T-shirt. They cut the trophy out. And then they gave you a leather jacket, a sweatshirt. I think I still got. I know I gave my last year. I made it my last year in Denver. I gave the, what did I give? I gave some, I gave, I think I gave house the jacket. I gave Chalki the, the, the hoodie, but that was, that was an honor to have, to have John Madden. And we still got the Madden game and to have those two. That's dope now. Yeah. That's dope. but I still got the leather jackets I still got I made the biggest honor was me and my brother making it together I think I got like four sweatshirts because I think I made it five times I got four jackets and a sweatsuit I don't know I think I got a sweatsuit my sister might have a sweatsuit but congratulations you should do it look everybody's not going to be happy I remember, look, there are some times that hell, I would have gone, because I was the first alternate twice.

27:27Shannon Sharpe:My last year, my first year in Baltimore, no, three times. My first year in Baltimore, I was the first alternate. And my last two years in Denver, I was first alternate. Now, I definitely should have made it my first year in Baltimore. You can go check the stats. All the tight ends. Gonzo made it. Tony Gonzalez made it. Deservedly so. but you look, I should have been the second guy. I should have been there. And then my second year in Denver behind Gonzo again, I should have made it. But hey, eight times, I guess there's really nothing to be complaining, but eight times in 14 years, that's pretty good for a guy that went in the seventh round.

28:08Shannon Sharpe:But Shadour, congratulations. That's on your resume. Now it gives you something to strive to be one of those first three guys that get selected to the Pro Bowl, to be the fan vote, the coaches, and the players. It is a huge honor. and like I said, 25, 30 years from now, nobody remembered that he was an alter. Bill looked like, man, Shadour made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, hey, listen, no matter what, no matter how you feel, you got to put Pro Bowler in front of that name before you say it. No matter whether he deserved it or not, whether the stats were up to par for him to make it, the players before him chose not to go.

28:42Therefore, as far as the pecking order goes, he was next in line, so therefore he's a Pro Bowler.

28:49Shannon Sharpe:yeah uh actually i'm trying to think i made the pro bowl i made a pro bowl like let's see 96 i made it 95 i made it like damn near like five of my times because i think prime went like eight nine times and i think 92 93 94 no i didn't go 94 i made it but i didn't go Eric Green Eric Green was the alternate I looked at it like okay that looked good on his resume he hit me up hey dog what's going on I said what hey you know I got this you good to go that's dope that's laugh that's very generous for you that's what we used to do you called up Chris Carter told a story my brother had made it and Chris was the alternate and he's like man your brother going to the Pro Bowl?

29:41I'm like, I mean, he ain't

29:43Shannon Sharpe:loving it. I mean, if he go, it's only because I'm going. He and my brother up. Brother said, hey, all of a sudden, my brother had an injury. Right, right, right. That's dope. But that's, but, you know, somebody had incentives. Go get that. Yeah, for sure. Sean Merriman said, I have a Pro Bowl helmet that I walk past every day. It's signed by some of the best players in NFL history, legends, Hall of Famers, and real ghosts. The Pro Bowl used to be a badge of honor and respected. Things have changed. Dave said, you sound like a little bee. Been hanging around your dad too much. My bad. Who said that?

30:24Shannon Sharpe:Oh, it was a random. Oh, okay, okay. That was Sean Merriman. Then somebody tweeted back at him and that was Sean's response. I mean, I mean, he's right. He's right. I mean, that era of football, obviously, I played against Sean Merriman, made the Pro Bowl with him as well. I mean, it was different. And the game has evolved. I mean, the meaning of the Pro Bowl has changed tremendously. I don't think players in today's era will understand what it meant to fly and take that 10-hour flight with your family and see some of the people and meet some of their kids and their wives and seeing some of the coaches that some of the players bought.

31:01I mean, it was dope. It was dope. I mean, enjoying the island, enjoying the people, enjoying the culture in general, you know, throughout the entirety of the week. It was different. It was different. And staying at the Iheilani with that goddamn French toast. I still don't know what I don't know if it was a French toast or whether it was a syrup at the Iheilani. I didn't know why, but oh, my goodness. It's to this day. There's only been one place. I don't mean to veer off track. There's only been one place where I've had French toast as good as the French toast in the Yolani at that at that hotel.

31:33And that's at a restaurant in Montreal called La Avenue. Oh, my goodness.

31:40Shannon Sharpe:They got a restaurant in I think I said, ask the thing on IG. They got a restaurant in New York that we got to go try to pancakes. It's good. Yeah, I'm a pancakes guy. All things being equal, I'd rather have pancakes than French toast. Okay, I got you. But I'd go pancakes, French toast, waffles for me. That would be my choice. I mean, some people like French toast. Some people like waffles. Some people like pancakes. But I'm a pancakes, French toast, waffle guy. Yeah, I like it. But it is. But congratulations, Shador. Look, everybody ain't going to be happy, but it is what it is. Ocho, there. Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously.

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34:59Shannon Sharpe:32 NFL head coaching jobs, but apparently nobody wants to be coached to Browns. Another coach passed on taking the Browns head coaching job. The Jags OC, Grant Yudinski, has withdrawn from consideration as head coaching position, but is still pursuing the Bills head coaching job. Mike McDaniel decided that he would rather go down the ladder and expect it to be the Chargers OC than the Browns head job. And Chris Shuler, who's the DC for the Rams, reportedly passed on a requested meeting from the Browns. The Browns now have interviewed commanders running back Anthony Lynn Saturday, former head coach of the Chargers.

35:42Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, when the coaches would rather stay coordinators, then go take that job. Does that speak to the dysfunction that is actually going on? I mean, it speaks to the dysfunction, but I mean, I got into it with some Browns fans today on Twitter. I mean, obviously we had some dialogue back and forth, And I said, you know, three coaches pulled out and they said, well, those coaches pulled out because they know they weren't getting the job. And then they talked to me. You need to talk about what you know, because administration or those in positions of power with the Cleveland Browns were flying out to see someone by the name of Nate.

36:18I don't remember what Nate's last name was. Excuse me, Chad, you can probably correct me that he's he's going to be the one to get the job. And I'm like, well, either way it goes, I don't think coaches are wanting to take it. It's not a coveted job. It's not like everyone is lining up, knocking down the door to want to be the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Listen, I agree. As much as as much as I love my Bengals, I've always been an advocate for the Cleveland Browns players, not the organization in itself. They're players, especially, you know, Denzel Ward, Miles Garrett, Shadour Sanders, Grant Delphi.

36:53You know how I am. If you've watched this show long enough, you know how I've always shown support for the Cleveland Browns, even though they're not my team. But it's a dysfunctional organization. It always has been for a very, very long time. And one thing I don't do is I really don't talk about organizations in general, but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade, even if it's me, who's always on the positive side of things. It's not good, which is why most of the coaches don't want to coach there. Another issue is obviously the quarterback situation. I don't think there's nothing cemented in place where a head coach feels that comfortable going into that building saying, you know what?

37:29This is where we're going to start and we're going to build from here and we're worried about everything else on the back end.

37:36Shannon Sharpe:I agree. I think the thing is that a head coach goes in there and they know Andrew Barry still has control. Most of the time coaches want to come in. They want to bring their own general manager. with that being said and then there's a direct like I don't actually get an opportunity to talk to Jimmy and D Haslam I got to deal with Andrew Barry who's effed up since he's been there I don't think he didn't select Miles Garrett did he what was the guy that selected Miles Garrett he selected Baker also John Dorsey John Dorsey I I I it is one of 32 when you're willing to say instead of being you know kind of your own boss I would still rather just you know be an OC or DC where I am I think that speaks a lot that speaks loud and clear hey listen if the Browns looking for a head coach you know who can go over there and coach him on shit me nah you got to realize that you do realize that uh the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals his dad used to that's who the Browns are named after they probably gonna have anything I know it's all it's all good it's all good I mean I'm just I listen I'm just I'm just throwing my name out there so listen Browns need a head coach Philadelphia Eagles they need the offensive coordinator I'm just listen I'm manifesting it I'm manifesting the opportunity maybe it might present itself if it doesn't i tried yeah well you keep manifesting i'm manifesting other things but coaching ain't something that i'm manifesting i promise you i promise you that i've i've been manifesting a lot of things i've been trying to speak a lot of stuff into it into existence uh been praying about a lot of stuff coaching in the nfl ain't something i've been praying about it's coaching in the nfl ain't something I've ever prayed about.

39:31I got you.

39:33Shannon Sharpe:Being a player, that was it. Once I said I'm done, I want another. You disconnected from the game, huh? No, I'm not disconnected from it as far as coaching. Yes, but you know what, Ocho? This allows for me, it allows me to stay close to the game without having to work those long-ass hours. Because I'm excessive, like I'm obsessive. Well, that's what they call it, obsessive. when you lazy and don't want to do what you want to do. You say, oh, he obsessive. No, I just want to be great at what, because that's anybody that's been great at anything, they were what you call obsessive at one point in time.

40:14Shannon Sharpe:Serena was obsessive. Tiger Woods was obsessive. Kobe was obsessive. But see, nobody ever said, I guess because Kobe didn't speak about it. Everybody came out when Mike McDonald said what he said, but I guarantee you there are times that Vanessa did everything for the kids, got them ready, got them to go to school, was at the PTA, was at their functions, and then when he retired, he could take on more of that responsibility. But nobody would say, well, that was a flex, that Kobe was up at, he said he was in the gym at 4 o 'clock in the morning, got two hours in, come home, shower, eat, lay down, back in the gym at 9, shower, eat, back in the gym at 4.

40:56Shannon Sharpe:nobody said colby nobody said colby was oh colby that ain't no flex i don't think people understand i don't think people understand the sacrifice that goes into it the amount of hours that you have to put in to be great the discipline to that level that level you know the tom brady's the tiger woods i don't think people understand it they know they put the work in i don't serena yes they understand how much work and how much sacrifice how many how many things are sacrificed that are immediate to you, including family, including kids to reach that level of success. It's not easy. Yeah. Any entrepreneur, whether you're talking about Bill, whether you're talking about Bill Gates, whether you're talking about Jeff Bezos, whether you're talking about Larry Ellison, anybody, Zuckerberg, anybody you want to know.

41:45Shannon Sharpe:If you're talking about that level of success, now I'm not, I'm not knocking. Anybody says I'd rather be a family man. I want to be a family woman and my family is more important than ascending and having enormous tons of wealth. That's to you. I got no problem with that. I'm never going to knock somebody for what they choose as important to them. But I think early on you get a kind of sense. I think Serena and Venus got a sense early on well we want to be the best. Well the dad who had no form of tennis training says well this is what it's going to take. Earl Woods who had really no formal golf training says well son this is what it's going to take Michael Jordan Michael Jordan says like this is what it's going to take for me to be obsessive this is it it's got to be the end all be all and to people that don't want to be that I don't begrudge them I don't it's different though some people's like I just want to grow up have a family be a husband and be a father to my kids and you know I think the difference is coach talked about it and I think because he talked about it because he voiced what he has to go through or what he's not able to do it's frowned upon but if all these greats all these legends were to hold that same conversation if it was able to be had especially from Kobe you get the same thing from Michael Jordan as well how many coaches you think do love what Mike McDonald does that makes it seem like he the only one I was there when the coaches would come back, Ocho, and they didn't go home.

43:21Shannon Sharpe:They went straight upstairs and started breaking down film. And they might not go home until, they might go home during the day, like Monday, they might go home for an hour, but they write back. Tuesday, they're there the whole night. Wednesday, the whole night. It was Thursday that they got an opportunity to leave at 6 o 'clock. Mm-hmm. But that's the price you have to pay. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know the funny thing about it is we all work we all work whether whether whether it's nine to five or whether it's graveyard shift but there's different there's different levels of being a psycho when it comes to your craft and what you do different levels of sacrifice yeah that that as well i like calling those the jordan the kobe the tiger woods they they are psycho like literally psycho because a few screws have to be loose um to be able to have the discipline to do what they do and do it over and over and over and over until you you not get it perfect i forgot the word you say it sometime too you might not get it perfect damn i forgot no well you don't do it again you just you don't do it till you get it right you just do it so you can't get it wrong that that's that's it that's it right yeah that's what the tom brady's made it look so easy and it's so and it's so difficult the Peyton Mannings now they're great fathers now because what their job entails now doesn't require that that level of discipline that level of dedication that level of obsession what they do now now everybody's telling me that Tom has gotten better at doing what he does I don't know I haven't heard him but I had a conversation with him last summer and had a conversation he's like you know and I was like look bro you got to realize you didn't become what you became your first year.

45:11Shannon Sharpe:So what made you think that you were going to just pick this up and be great at it your first year? It's going to take time. You know what? And you can't be anybody else but Tom Brady. So everybody's talking about, well, he ain't Romo or he ain't John Madden. Nope, he's Tom Brady. And that's to be the best Tom Brady at calling the game that you can be and then let the chips fall with him. And he's gotten much better at it. But the one thing about it is, is Tom Brady his first year? Okay. and he gradually continued to get better because of one thing, repetition. Repetition. Repetition. He put time in.

45:48Shannon Sharpe:He understands now you watch him. Whereas before, he would never, when the guy was talking to him, he would look instead at the camera as opposed to taking the question, listening to the guy listening to him and talking, and then turn to the camera. Yeah. Matter of fact, speaking of that, man, What you think about me doing color commentary too? Listen, I think I would be good at it. I think I would be good that I have to work on my cursing. I work on my cursing. But listen, I can talk the game in extent and in depth, but I can also tell a story as the game is going. So I think – Well, here's the thing.

46:26Shannon Sharpe:It's hard to tell stories during the game because you got to talk in three to five seconds because you can't talk too long because the next play is about to happen. So you got to put that thing in a nice, neat bow. it's a lot more difficult than people think. It's hard. Like Madden. But Madden was very simplistic. He's circling sweat. He got smoke coming off the guy's head. And he boom, boom, boom, boom. People like that because he was very simplistic in what he was saying. He wasn't talking about no quarters coverage and he wasn't talking about this. It was very, very simple. He was like, look at it.

47:00Shannon Sharpe:He got a double here and a double here and a pull around here and there's an alley there. People love that. but it's a what makes that job so difficult Ocho is that you're talking about what's happening in real time in the pregame show you're talking about what you think will happen in the post game show you're talking about what has actually happened during that live you're talking about what is actually happening before your eyes and guess what you don't get a chance to rehearse and listen that's all experience that's all experience and being able to recall based on experience and what you've seen before at playing and being able to adapt that to what you're seeing in real time.

47:44Yep. Yeah.

47:47Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I like, I mean, I just, for me, Ocho, I don't really need, look, and I'm sure the guys do a great job, but what they do, I don't need told me. Because the one thing that you don't want to have happen is to regurgitate what somebody is saying. Oh, you just heard such and such say that. No, I just –

48:13Yeah.

48:14Shannon Sharpe:No, I mean, you do realize that I played the game a little bit. I was okay. I'm not saying I'm a top ten player in the history of the game, but I was an okay player. And I know what I see, and I can recall. But it's great. I just can't believe the Browns have found themselves in this situation. I believe the Raiders have their guy in mind. A lot of people say it's going to be Clint Kubiak. I do think Clint is very deserving of a job. You see the job that he's done with Sam Darnold. Because remember, Ocho, he was in New Orleans before Kellen Moore got there. And you see the job that he's done with Sam Darnold.

49:02so you think well obviously Clint Kubiak knowing that the number one pick obviously going to be Fernando Mendoza I mean okay I like it I like it I think still

49:14Shannon Sharpe:we talked about this Ocho I think this is just my personal I haven't talked to anybody in Baltimore I think the reason why Baltimore went defense is that they say Lamar Jackson has won two MVPs with two different coordinators we believe Lamar Jackson is so great We don't give a damn who the coordinator is. His greatness is going to shine. No matter what. We need somebody to repair this defense. This is where we lose the game. This is we have double digit leads and we're squandering those leads. We were last or we were last or near the bottom and pass defense and sacks and all these stats. And so I think that's what Steve Bishotti was going for.

49:55Shannon Sharpe:and as a matter of fact I think he was in Baltimore with John Harbaugh before he went to the Chargers so that's my thought process on that but the Browns look I know Miles Garrett is making money and he's still not making as much as he should be making, considering the type of player that he is. But I don't know how he can put the kind of time that he does to take care of his body and to be great as he is and just to get accustomed to this losing. I don't know how, Ocho. It takes a special type of person, Ocho, to go out there and you know what you put in. And you see, think about Ocho. They're playing from behind.

50:50Shannon Sharpe:He got 23 sacks and rarely, if ever, did they have the lead. Yeah. Well, listen, they – Just imagine if he had a team, like, if he had a team that could put points on the board and they got an opportunity to play for a lead and he got an opportunity to hunt. That's crazy. Well, listen, they did promise him. He did have some gripes and said he wants to play for a winning organization. They paid him and they promised him we're going to build a winner. promises like pie crust thin and easily broken well they can prove themselves this offseason they can prove themselves in the draft how many times you seen people get before they get before that man stand right there at the altar and promise I'm gonna love you for better or for worse and be gone sickness that didn't help rich or poor they out the door they gone this is too much I didn't sign up for this hey god leave boy i'm still i'm still thinking about that news you gave me at the beginning of the show man god leave boy that's exciting yeah people say well barry santa with that guy and barry left yeah he did they kept bravo they kept promising bad they kept promising bad kept promising bad barry said after 10 years yeah y 'all y 'all just running game on me y 'all y 'all we're not getting better as a matter of fact i think we're starting to take a step back calvin johnson That's why he left.

52:19Shannon Sharpe:Calvin Johnson. Calvin Johnson, same thing. I mean, think about it. You got two of their all-time great players. Billy Sims, actually, that 20 number was special. I know you don't remember Billy Sims. Wait, white shoes? Oh, that's Billy Johnson. No, that's Billy. That's Billy White Shoes Johnson. Billy Sims was a Heisman Trophy winner. I think Billy came out in 78. Yeah, 78. Because Earl Campbell won the Heisman in 77. Billy was 78. Charles White was 79. George Rogers was 80. Marcus Allen was 81. Hershel Walker was 82. Mike Rogier was 83. Doug Flutie was 84. Bo Jackson was 83. But you know what I'm saying, Ocho.

52:59Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. I'm picking up what you're putting down. So with that being said, he was special, but he got an ACL. And, you know, back then, guys didn't come back from ACLs like they do now. Now, people marvel at Adrian Peterson, and they should. You do realize that Rod Woodson tore his ACL in the first game of the season and played in the Super Bowl. Damn. He did. He did. That's crazy. Jerry tore his ACL and played in the second to the last game of the season. I don't understand how they did that. but Adrian Peterson is the most remarkable person to come back from ACL and have a crazy season post ACL tear I don't know what doctor he went to I don't know what kind of rehab he did but man whatever he did or whatever process or rehab he went through that's what everyone else that tears at ACL that's where they need to go unbelievable I don't know did James Andrews do was it Andrews that did AP surgery or Elitrosh?

54:12Shannon Sharpe:Because I don't think he went to the Stedman Hawkins clinic.

54:18Shannon Sharpe:But I mean, eventually somebody's going to take the job. They're going to lie to him and tell him you're going to have control you have, can say, over the 53. Yeah, he went to James Andrews down in Birmingham. I don't know if he's still doing surgery. Dr. Andrew's old now. He's got to be like 80. He that old, you think? Yeah.

54:49Shannon Sharpe:He's 83. Yeah. I don't know. You know, a lot of times when they have sons, their sons become, because that's how Dr. Watkins is. So, you know, the son takes over to practice. But, yeah, but you got to realize, Ocho, I remember hearing about him when I first got in the league. In Stedman Hawkins Clinic, they were the team doctor for the Broncos. They had a place up in Aspen, Colorado, in Aspen, and a lot of guys would go up there to get ACLs or they did microfracture. Rod had microfracture also where they bore holes in the knee and let it drip and let it try to heal itself. Yeah. Ocho, the Seahawks quarterback Rick Willen apologized for his costly taunting penalty that almost cost the Seahawks a trip to the Super Bowl no cap, high intensity game when you're in the zone, you balling with your bros sometimes you black out Ocho can you trust that he won't black out again, because what happens you know, you know Diggs gonna be talking, Diggs is a talker he gonna be alright, you know you're not gonna cross your team, obviously emotions were very high, he made a good play He was excited.

56:06He lost sense of self in that moment. Obviously, he had one of his players get on him. They exchanged words on the sideline. The good thing about this is you live and you learn, and it didn't cost your team. So you know that next week you're not going to just mess around and do it again. So you're going to be a little bit more cautious. Control your emotions. Make your plays. Celebrate with your teammates. And leave the trash talking alone.

56:30Shannon Sharpe:Control your emotions. Don't let them control you. were able to get him. Get him. Because that's what we did. You got somebody. We play the Raiders or the Chiefs? Oh, yeah. You already know. Damn. You got to try to get any edge you possibly can. Hey, bud.

56:57That's going to be... I'm so excited. That's going to be a good game, man. It's going to be a great game. don't have to worry about the weather being an element you know we don't have to worry about at least hope not because you know sometimes it's going to rain in san francisco you know hey at night but night time i mean we're not even gonna be at the game you going to the game yeah well you see hey you seen the ticket prices man yes four tickets 200 000 four tickets 65 000. hey the best seat the best seat in the house the best ticket in the house on my couch too because I think I leave Sunday morning if I'm not mistaken.

57:37Shannon Sharpe:I leave Friday morning. Hell yeah. By the time I get home I'll be able to sit down and get ready to watch the game. Nice and quiet. No man. Look here. If the Broncos had made it I was coming home. Either way. either way yes I'm gonna have my Bronco gear on for him but I'm not going to the game nah it's unfortunate obviously I understand it I understand the business side of it they've turned it into a corporate event we have this conversation every single year when it comes time to the Super Bowl the true fans that support these two teams throughout the season that are at all the home games that go on the road games I'm not sure unless you're just extremely well off or you saved up to be able to afford to be able to go to the game, huh?

58:34Shannon Sharpe:Like, it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's, look, a lot of this stuff, I mean, the advertisers, they spend so much and they get a block of tickets. You got a, you know, Pepsi and Gatorade and Verizon and, you know, all those corporate sponsors, Pizza Hut, they get so many tickets, Ocho. I mean, I mean, hey, and I don't begrudge him. I mean, man, if I, hey, you better, if I'm spending three, four hundred million dollars, you better give me a hundred damn tickets. I mean, understandable. What? Understandable. Look at Ocho. What up, twin? You want to go stay with Ocho? Yeah, come on down here with your boy.

59:14Come on, hey, hey, bring him on down. Take him to the dog park, honk. Let him have a little fun out there. he could go to the dog park because he uh he uh he's not oh you got him fixed i did hey i'm gonna have to call cps on you um yeah you can't you can't be doing you can't be doing a dog like that man now you're innocent now you're pure he would never know what it's like to experience you know uh horizontal activity no he would say i didn't want to be no dad he'd say child support say kick my dad after but he said nah i'm good why you in upstairs on the bed

59:56Shannon Sharpe:with your brother teddy bear on the bed that's why i left it why you're not in the room with your auntie she closed the door on you hey make him make him bark huh

1:00:11oh he can't hear me because you got the daddy get on me got the earbuds in

1:00:15Shannon Sharpe:say I go say I go I go I don't know when to stop say I don't know when to stop he said only time I get really excited when I'm going to get my brother Titus because I know he in that room and so I just start scratching on the door hey I'm thinking I might get me a dog man because you just be just you know some just that some you're going too much I know but some just that you know that's love you unconditionally you know no matter what yeah you know good day bad day for sure you know i just i'm trying to think i'm trying to think i'm should i do that what kind of dog can i get on uh you probably well i mean you get a small dog and you could travel with it oh hey that'd be a good one

1:01:10hey what about my furniture you know all my all my furniture white on white rugs white everything well yeah i would recommend you getting a dog bed hey is that way to potty but i mean but like like

1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:like teddy like teddy teddy likes to get he don't really care about the furniture he wants to he don't really care about getting on the bed he just wants to be on the floor teddy wants to be on the bed titus wants to be okay okay so okay i got i got to think about that man i think my and i'm gonna get me a white dog so i'm gonna give me a white dog to go with the white furniture well i mean you can get a a kubos you can get a bichon hey i had a bichon i had a bichon when i when my grandma had to be john named studley when i when i was a bait when i was young you can get an alibi a dogo no come on dogos too big huh yeah i know so I just tried to get a dog that's white I mean you get Pomeranians that's white I ain't never seen no white palm I gotta holler at my homeboy at the city you know I can get you know hey I can get your dogs you know sometimes you know y 'all pay five ten thousand for these dogs I got a dude at the city you know you know who can get anything for about 200$200 I don't know how you get him he want me to keep he want me to keep scratching him What'd you do?

1:02:33Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, before joining the Seahawks last offseason, Cooper Cupp's departure from the Rams was more contentious than initially appeared. Michael Silver, I know Mike very well, revealed more details behind what led Cupp's release, reporting that rather than trying to negotiate a salary deduction with a former All-Pro, the Rams had unceremoniously cut ties, urging him to retire. The Rams also reportedly tried to dictate Cupp's market once he became a free agent. Sources told Silver that Cupp became to believe that some of the L.A. officials had cautioned potential suitors against paying him anything more than the vet minimum suggested that his age and accumulation of injuries had provoked a steep decline.

1:03:18Shannon Sharpe:Cupp spent his first eight seasons of his career in Los Angeles after being drafted with a third-round pick in 2017. He helped lead the Rams to a Super Bowl title in 2021, earning a Super Bowl MVP and NFL Offensive Player of the Year honors. Now, Cupp has gotten the last laugh. Cupp had the greatest receiving season in NFL history. When you combine that season that he had, Ocho, he was a super crowd. He finished a couple of yards short of Calvin Johnson. I think he had like 144 catches, 1940-something yards. Calvin Johnson's record is 1964. 64 but he led the league he was a triple crown and then he parlayed that in the postseason and was went crazy when he absolutely had to be he was historically great in the postseason so i believe when you look well over 2000 what do you i think he had like 2400 receiving yards i mean in his totality yeah it's something like that yes but even even with that even with that historic season he had in 2021 you see how the business side of things come back to bite you and you know what?

1:04:24Oh, now you done lost a step. No, he didn't lose a step. You just, you stopped giving the opportunities you gave him the same. You got, yeah, I mean, obviously you got Puga, but you still didn't put him in position to make those same plays before Puga got there.

1:04:38Shannon Sharpe:No, you put him in position, Ochoa. He was, he was injured, probably remember. Yeah, he had some injuries, but you got to realize, think about how often, Ochoa, do you know how many hits, blows you got to take? If you catch 140 something, passes. Now, how many times did you drop the ball and you still got hit? I'm just... So think about that over the course of a career. Now, Puka is there. Puka's a little bigger. But Cooper Cupp is big. People think Cooper Cupp is a small guy. Cooper Cupp ain't small. He looked like it on the field until you get up close. Yeah, he's just a big boy now. And so, but my thing is, Ocho, I don't...

1:05:17Shannon Sharpe:You shouldn't be able to dictate. Okay, you release me. no I don't want to retire I don't believe look Ocho you married you get a divorce you try to dictate to your wife well I don't think you should get remarried I think you just live by yourself I'm not sure and vice versa the wife gets divorced and say I don't think you should get remarried no no no you don't want me don't worry about what I'm going to do somewhere else I might decide to retire I might decide not to get a spouse but that's going to be my choice why would they do that anyway why would they even care once he decides to leave and you didn't want to pay me you telling me to uh to take a pay cut not only you telling me to take a pay cut you telling other teams that might want me telling to only give me the minimum what is that all about why would you even care it's not your money why would they even care i don't i don't understand exactly and and and and and staying cranky he's the largest landowner in the world got over 2.3 million acres.

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