Nightcap Hour 1: Spain DEFEATS Argentina for WORLD CUP + Lou Dort HEADED to HAWKS

20 Jul 2026 · 57 min · 24 chapters

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In short

Nightcap Hour 1 covers Spain winning the World Cup over Argentina 1-0 in extra time, plus NBA trade talk about Lou Dort heading to the Atlanta Hawks.

Guests (hosts)

Chad “Ocho Cinco” Johnson, former Pro Bowl/All-Pro NFL player; ISO Joe Johnson, seven-time NBA All-Star and former Atlanta Hawks guard.

Guest backgrounds (sports context)

Ocho is a longtime football fan and frequent World Cup attendee; Joe brings NBA perspective as a former Hawks All-Star.

Key claims

Spain’s defense and possession limited Argentina to no shots on goal across 90 minutes; Emiliano Martínez’s saves and Unai Simón’s clean-sheet run are highlighted. Ferran Torres’ 106th-minute goal is framed as decisive. The hosts argue Argentina’s discipline/disciplinary issues (Enzo Fernández red card) and “questionable calls” affected momentum. They also discuss Spain’s tournament record: only one conceded goal, 38-game unbeaten streak, and Spain’s multiple World Cups in the 21st century.

Notable examples

Spain vs Argentina match details (Torres goal; Martinez heroics; red cards; late fights/red card after whistle). NBA example: a three-way deal sending Zachary Risacher to Dallas, Lou Dort and Ryan Nimhard to Atlanta, and Dort’s restricted free-agent status.

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Chapters

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Introduction to Nightcap

0:00 to 0:34

Join the hosts as they introduce the episode and discuss their recent experiences.

“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”

Introduction to Nightcap

3:35 to 4:27

Join the hosts as they introduce the episode and discuss their recent experiences.

“When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance.”

Celebrating Viewers and Support

4:33 to 7:18

The hosts express gratitude towards their audience for their support and share upcoming plans.

“Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.”

Spain's Victory at the World Cup

7:40 to 12:10

The hosts analyze Spain's historic win against Argentina in the World Cup final.

“Please, please, Drake, responsibly and stay safe.”

Game Analysis and Player Performances

12:10 to 14:00

In-depth discussion on key players and moments from the final match.

“And all we have right now coming up, I think, almost next week.”

Red Card and Elbow Controversy

14:00 to 14:37

Discussing the implications of a red card and an elbow joint rule during the match.

“right yeah so yeah red card that would that would justify that would justify you have to know what What about the man elbow, what about Spain's elbow joint?”

Red Card and Elbow Controversy

15:03 to 16:27

Discussing the implications of a red card and an elbow joint rule during the match.

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Spain's World Cup Victory and Messi's Legacy

19:07 to 28:00

Analysis of Spain's win over Argentina, Messi's impact, and the controversial game events.

“They said, oh, he's interfering with the man.”

Travel Troubles and Delays

28:00 to 29:40

The hosts discuss their travel experiences and recent delays at the airport.

“Yeah, dude, I'm glad y 'all didn't spend that money, though, man.”

Airport Experiences

29:40 to 31:20

They recount their time spent waiting in the airport and flight mishaps.

“Bro, we were the first ones to get up yesterday, Ocho.”
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In-Flight Anecdotes

31:20 to 33:00

The hosts share humorous stories from their flights and interactions with each other.

“flattening late and everything like that.”

Past Flight Memories

33:00 to 34:40

Reminiscing about previous flying experiences and delays encountered over the years.

“And I asked the flight attendant, I said, what's our motto?”

Travel Safety Concerns

34:40 to 36:20

They discuss their safety concerns while flying, especially after past incidents.

“so i would fly in i started out early because you know figured the beats of it out but then i just started flying in Saturday.”

Patience and Travel

36:20 to 38:00

Exploring the theme of patience during travel and navigating delays at airports.

“Hey, I might doze off before we get up, but hey, once they talking about, hey, I feel that plane start moving, I'm wide awake.”

Airport Etiquette and Frustrations

38:00 to 39:40

The hosts express their frustrations with airport etiquette and fellow travelers.

“Don't divert because, hey, I've been on planes that's diverted, had medical emergencies or something like that.”

Wrapping up Travel Tales

39:40 to 42:00

Concluding thoughts on their travels and highlights from their trip to New York.

“But here's the thing though, Ocho, but what if you late?”

Travel Tales and New York Adventures

42:00 to 45:10

Learn about the hosts' travel experiences and amusing anecdotes from New York.

“She had, and y 'all already know my patience.”

Travel Tales and New York Adventures

45:13 to 46:34

Learn about the hosts' travel experiences and amusing anecdotes from New York.

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NBA Trade Discussions and Player Analysis

47:43 to 56:00

Get insights into recent NBA trades and player potential.

“Lou Dort is heading to Atlanta in a three-way deal that sends former number one pick Zachary Rishar to the Mavericks.”

Understanding CBA Implications

56:00 to 57:24

Exploring the challenges players face in signing contracts under pressure.

“Y 'all sign it because you feel you have to because you can't miss any checks.”

Lou Dort and Team Dynamics

57:24 to 1:00:09

Analyzing the potential impact of Lou Dort's addition to the Hawks.

“Now, although, you know, for whatever reason, well, obviously salary cap reasons, they wasn't, they was not as valuable for OKC.”

Kawhi Leonard's Career Journey

1:00:09 to 1:03:02

Discussing Kawhi Leonard's evolution as a player and his significance in the NBA.

“Hey, when you go to great teams like that, though, you don't have no choice but to fall in line.”

OKC Thunder's Draft Success

1:03:02 to 1:07:00

Examining the OKC Thunder's strategies in drafting and developing players.

“He proved his three ball, his midi, being turnaround or going left or right.”

Empathy in Nursing

1:10:53 to 1:11:21

Explore the importance of empathy in nursing and caregiving.

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4:51Shannon Sharpe:Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We could not not give you, I understand that is a double negative, or you're not supposed to use double negative, but we could not not give you a show, considering Ocho and I are going to be out for the next two weeks. This coming week, we're dark. Joe comes back with his guest list. the week after. So we had to give you a show. Obviously, you know, it's been transpiring up and down the East coast. We had bad weather in New York yesterday, got delayed, ended up having to get a hotel, stay overnight.

5:25Shannon Sharpe:And then because the president, President Trump was at the world cup, they would not let anybody into the airspace. And so a flight that we're supposed to leave at four end up leaving at like almost eight o 'clock. But here we are right now to give you a show, excuse me, almost nine o 'clock. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. You didn't want to hear this pity party. You want us to come give you a show to inform you, educate you, and entertain you. And that's exactly what Ocho, Aiso, and myself were going to do tonight. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. You know who I am.

5:53Shannon Sharpe:I'm your favorite Unc, my partner and co-host. He's been traveling up and down the east, west, north, and south, going to all these World Cup games. That is the Liberty City legend, the Dade County's own, a former Pro Bowl and an All-Pro, a bingo ring of fame honoree. That is Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. and the third member of the big three that's going to hold it down for us in a week. Y 'all know him, University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock, Arkansas native. He's a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, Mr. Clutch, the smooth shooting guard. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

6:28Shannon Sharpe:Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you, chat. it's nice like this that we really really really and truly thankfully appreciate your support none of this is possible you could have been in the bed long long time ago but you chose to stay up with Ocho I saw in myself and we greatly greatly appreciate that support that's why we're the number one sports show on YouTube that's why we do what we do is because of you none of this is possible without you no matter how educational informative or entertaining We are without your eyes without your ears without your word of mouth.

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7:43Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, for the second time in World Cup history, the Spaniards are the World Cup champs. They defeat Argentina 1-0 in extra time to be crowned the World Cup champion. If Spain conceded just one goal all tournament long, Spain becomes the first nation to hold both men's and women's World Cup simultaneously. Spain has become the first nation to win multiple World Cups in the 21st century. Spain World Cup wins. See them break the record for the longest unbeaten streak in international football history with 38 games without a loss. Ferriano Torres named man of the match after his 106-minute goal to take a 1-0 lead.

8:22Shannon Sharpe:Argentina failed to muster a shot across 90 minutes Emiliano Martinez heroics kept Spain at bay the reigning champs lost Enzo Fernandez to a brainless yellow card just before extra time the 93 minutes temper frayed as the West final whistle sparked the Spanish celebration Leandro Paris got a red card after the fight with Agave and Eric Garcia after the final whistle. 19-year-old, six days. Yamal becomes the youngest ever to win both FIFA World Cup and Euros. Beat Ronaldo, beat Messi in the same World Cup. Yamal is the third youngest player to appear in a FIFA World Cup final. Behind Pele in 1958, Ocho, he was 17, 249 days.

9:13Shannon Sharpe:And Giuseppe Bergami of Italy in 1982, he was 18 years and 201 days. Oh, Joe. Yeah, Argentina just couldn't get anything on net, but I got to get it said and I'm gonna let you take off You take as long as you want. Yes, sir. The Argentine go the Argentine goalie. Yeah, that's what we're doing handstands Yeah, even they should they should have like five or six goals. Oh, Joe, but he he stood in his head. Yeah Yeah, I mean, you know Martinez played extremely well He saved them. It should have been what for maybe five goals about the game. The fact that they had so many chances on goal and weren't able to get in until the very end, he played phenomenal.

9:55He didn't get much help from his team. Messi didn't do much as well. And congratulations to Spain. I know we probably have a lot of Spain fans in the chat as well. Spain had an unbelievable run in the World Cup. And their goalie as well, their goalie as well, Unai Simon, he had the most clean sheets. by a single team in the FIFA World Cup ever. Listen to this real quick, Uncle Joe. Spain played Cat Verde, first game, no goals. Spain or Saudi Arabia, no goals. Spain, Uruguay, no goals. Spain, Austria, Austria scored no goals. Spain and Portugal, Portugal scored no goals. Spain, Belgium, Belgium managed to get one.

10:39Spain, France, France no goals. And obviously today, Spain and Argentina, no goals. So they had one hell of a run in today's game. I don't know what was wrong. I have no idea what was wrong with Fran. I'm Fran. Excuse me. Argentina. I have no idea, Joe, what was wrong with them. What do you mean? I mean, listen, I expected them to get something. Oh, so.

10:59Shannon Sharpe:They did. They got nothing and liked it.

11:02Chad Johnson:Hey, Spain was too much, bro. Yeah, yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, we keeping it real. Spain was a better team, bro. Yeah, and they can make it. I mean, yes. Their defense just smothers you, bro. I mean, look, they only gave up one goal this whole World Cup, bro. Listen, and then at the end of the day, Spain lived inside that penalty slash 18-yard box. Argentina. Hell, that's how the goalie was able to break the damn record, Ojo.

11:30Shannon Sharpe:Yes. He had to. If he don't break the record, that game is like, what is that, England and France. You might have 10 goals. They might beat Argentina 10-0, Ojo. if he's not doing handstands in the net. Hello. You know, another thing, defensively, Spain was really good, but I think they had possession of the ball, Joe, almost 70%. Oh, easy. They kept the ball away from Argentina. Argentina couldn't do nothing. They kept the ball away from Argentina so much when they did get the ball, they didn't really do anything with it. They played well as a team collectively altogether, man. Congratulations to Spain.

12:09It was a good game. I'm kind of sad now. The World Cup is gone. It's ended. And all we have right now coming up, I think, almost next week. I think Liverpool is in the States. Leeds is in the States. And preseason for the Premier League is coming up. And soccer season starts in another two, three weeks.

12:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. I think the thing is that because, like you mentioned, Ocho, Spain kept the ball so much is that when Argentina got it, they were out of sorts. and they would just turn it over. Give Spain credit. They're a rugged team. They're a defensive-based team, but they put so much pressure on you. They kept the pressure on Argentina. Argentina goalie, he could not take a break. He got one in there, but they did everything they could. They were cheating their ass off. Argentina grabbed that man from the back. That man didn't chirp that damn man. What the hell was that? The man healed the ball, had a great lead.

13:06Shannon Sharpe:Man, come on, man. Stop going to that replay trying to help Messi out. Bro, when they got that goal, man, I was so damn happy. I was like, Lord, boy, see, I could have got out of here. You talking about the first goal, Nico Williams? Yeah. Yeah. They took it back. They took it back. Ocho, you no damn word. That wasn't no damn penalty on Spain. Listen, they say he stepped on his foot. You know how that is.

13:27Chad Johnson:Come on, man.

13:28Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I ain't got eyes in the back of my damn head. Hell, he behind me. I might have damn stepped on his foot. As a matter of fact, I might have put it in his face. I don't know. damn Ocho I'm not I'm not a conspiracy theorist you know yes you are listen the the the reffing in Argentina's favor it was it was funny looking in the light especially when they played Egypt you know it was yeah it was funny looking today there was some questionable calls Ozzy Enzo Fernandez getting his red card there's no reason you know you couldn't get to that ball right yeah so yeah red card that would that would justify that would justify you have to know what What about the man elbow, what about Spain's elbow joint?

14:09Shannon Sharpe:The man elbow joint was over the line Ocho. I can see if he had a foot. The man, the man, I've seen people have tongues. The man elbow joint Ocho, that was all. Yeah, that's the rule though, huh? Nothing, nothing can be over the line. They consider it not only offside, but Joe like in basketball, you cherry picking. You play, everybody on one end playing and you stay on the other end. And if your team get the rebound, they just throw you the ball down there. My name is Tuva Nguyen, and enrolling at Rasmussen University was essentially a handshake to a lifeline, a career, stability, and a future for myself.

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19:06Shannon Sharpe:Where to finish? Hey, he shook That goalie. Hey, but you know what? Hey, what's for you? Can't nobody stop it. It was for Spain. And they did all they could. You mentioned how they host Egypt. Now, Egypt, they done got the ball. They said, oh, he's interfering with the man. He's been appealing. That man done dribbled all the way down the damn field. Done dribbled three or four people, almost got hit by a car. A bomb went off. And boom, he kicked it. Now they're talking about, oh, hell no. Stop all that damn cheating. I was glad they got their ass tore up. God, they've been cheap for him. Ocho, everybody knew this was Messi last World Cup.

19:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Everybody wanted to send him out on that white horse. Yes. And no, the soccer guard said, hell to the no. We're not finna do that. You know what the funny thing is. They don't wear that man cheap. But, hey, that was a great match. You know what I want to say, too, also? What you want to say? It's even if Messi didn't get the fairytale in it that all of us would want to see. No, I didn't want to see that. Okay, but with him being considered, obviously, the greatest of all time, nothing changes with his legacy. It seemed to me he still arguably probably the greatest player to ever play this game.

20:24I hate using the word goat because we know how I feel about Cristiano, but again, Messi is the greatest gift ever given to the beautiful game.

20:32Chad Johnson:Hey, but if Argentina would have won, Ocho, what would that happen?

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20:37Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you'd have been by yourself. I don't even know what Messi kid. Well, you and speed. Because you and speed, ain't nobody going to convince y 'all that Messi not to go. You speed his kid to his wife, Georgiana. Y 'all the only five that's right with Ronaldo. But Messi, he did have an unbelievable run, Ocho. I mean, eight goals. I think he had four or five assists. Mbappe ends up winning the Golden Boot. But, man, they was doing too much, Ocho. They was doing way too much. They were doing way too much for Argentina. Ever since the damn quarterfinals, they're like, Argentina's getting to the damn finals.

21:14Shannon Sharpe:By hook or crook.

21:16Chad Johnson:They wanted Argentina to win. Hell yeah. Damn, just getting there. That's why them calls were so bad. I ain't going to lie, Ocho. I was watching. I'm like, damn, hold on, bro. It's some things that go on out there on that field that you can't control and the flopping and all that. But I'm like, oh, hell, dude couldn't see buddy behind him. How the hell do you know you step on his feet?

21:36Shannon Sharpe:He make it seem like, Ocho, like he stepped back. He's doing what he normally does. He healed the ball a great pass. I'm talking about great. Really good pass, yeah. And you took that away? That would have been by far, and there have been some great goals scored in the World Cup. That would have been the greatest, Ocho. The man healed the ball with a perfect lead? Oh, man.

21:59Chad Johnson:Yeah.

22:00Shannon Sharpe:I say, come on. I'm up there celebrating. I'm like, because I needed the game to end so President Trump can hand that damn trophy out and get his ass back on Marine 2 and get on the party there so we can leave. Because they wasn't letting nothing up and down because he was at the game, up the airspace, huh?

22:14Chad Johnson:Yeah.

22:15Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. Y 'all were still at the airport all this time? Yeah. Yeah. First of all, we got stuck yesterday because New York flooded. And I knew we was in trouble as we're going to the airport. Ocho, we 10 minutes from the airport. Right. She had to look at me. They canceled our flight. I said, you got to be kidding me. Yeah. Hey, wait, hold on. Wait, time out. They canceled y 'all flight. Yesterday. Both of y 'all? Yes. We're on the same flight. Why y 'all ain't calling me to hang out? Man, Ocho, you couldn't come down there. The cars was flooded. I mean, you ought to see the cars underwater headed to the airport.

22:50Shannon Sharpe:Underwater? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, snap. Yes. Okay. And then, Ocho, so today we're in the airport. I said, man, I'm tired of this. I said, hey, Shelly called a guy for the private jet. Shelly hit him. I said, I don't care what it costs. Damn. Hey, Ocho, he said, how many passengers? I said, me, Shelly. I said, tell him, me, you, Jordan, and Joe, Joe Johnson. Okay, he's like, yeah, I know Joe. But anyway, he called back and said, give me 10 minutes, I'll call you back. Yeah. An hour and 30-minute fight. What's up? 45 ,000. I said, Shelly, hang the phone up. you say you don't care how much it costs hey first of all we're gonna have to drive we were in newark so we're gonna have to uber back in east isola which is 200 which is uh two hours which was a 500 uber uh 500 uber ride we had just paid 500 for a ride to get to newark so we're gonna take a 500 ride back to east isola to take the private jet out and then pay 45 000 for 90 minutes hey you know what ocho if we were going back to the west coast if we're going back to vegas if we're going back to new york i say all right joe let's go hey i say hey i sit right there i say i sleep in this airport oh you know what i'm i'm proud of you i'm proud of you damn that

24:14Chad Johnson:damn that hey all you had to do was hit me with chop that little 45 up man me and you chopped that 45 up here we would have been home yesterday oh hey i know that now i don't don't say hey hey

24:26Shannon Sharpe:Don't don't threaten me. All right, cuz I thought I thought that fantastic plastic down in a minute

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24:44Shannon Sharpe:I told Joe a I had something I had something in mind too I had told Jordan cuz I had told I said Jordan I guess what I was gonna get I guess I go get it now He's like, you can do both of them. I said, no hell I can't. If either a, boy, get a chain of chips or a soda. You ain't getting both. So it's going to be either or. Man, I was like, nah. And man, we got to the airport. And as we get to the airport, they push the flight back 15 minutes. Wow. I said, oh, man, President Trump. And then President Trump didn't want to leave the stage. They trying to grab the man by the arm. He trying to shake it.

25:18Shannon Sharpe:They like, President Trump, okay, you already put the medals on people and shook everybody's hand. you got to leave the stage man president trouble up there doing all this he waving you you america you not spanish hello get your ass off the stage mr president hello hey listen y 'all should have called me now y 'all should have called me i'm telling you oh joe you couldn't have got to where we were well i don't know i don't know where joe stayed because we ended up staying out there by the airport right chuck and shelly got the last shelly got the last two rooms the last two rooms right i'm not we gonna be stuck like chuck right i'm talking about being stuck part of the airport now you know i got people i can call you know me and me and marco rubio you know we from the crib we both from florida what do you mean what he ain't gonna do that in jersey um well you don't understand the kind of power the secretary of state got huh don't do that i got you next time i'll stay in the airport i'm good hey i ain't gonna hey look i ain't gonna lie to y 'all i

26:12Chad Johnson:I didn't even know that was legal in New York. I didn't know the gas. The gas was legal in New York. Okay, Ocho. What do you mean gas, Joe? The marijuana. Yeah, that gas. I didn't know it was legal in New York. Yeah, it's legal. Yeah, Joe, you smoke? Huh? You smoke? Do he?

26:31Shannon Sharpe:Fat meat greasy? Hey, Joe, you can tell me that I don't make you no bad brother if you do.

26:39Chad Johnson:Hey, listen. Hey, let's just say this. I relaxed yesterday and today until our flight. You know what I mean? Hey, Joe, hey.

26:46Shannon Sharpe:Check this out. I called him. I said, hey, Joe, we're in the Sky Club. And, you know, come on up here. He's like, yeah, you know, I'm at a bar right now. I'll see y 'all in a second. Get what we see, Joe. When we boarding the plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:00Chad Johnson:Hey, I ain't going to lie. I sat at the bar. I was in G-Pop. I sat at the bar. Man had me a couple drinks. Had me a little sandwich or something. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. I chilled out, man. I watched the game. Oh, boy, it was going crazy out there. Why was that?

27:14Shannon Sharpe:You hear me? Everybody was everybody for Spain. I think there might have been one person for Argentina, but everybody for Spain. Everybody just wanted to see something. Actually, I think everybody just wanted to see somebody score a goal so if President Trump can hand that damn trophy out, he can get his ass back on Marine, too, and head on back up out of there. That's what they were really hoping for in the actuality. But you know what, Joe? I didn't think about it because I know I've been in a situation where people have let me have a ride, and I know they spent a ton of money. They're like, man, Sharper, I'm going that way.

27:43Shannon Sharpe:You can just hop a ride. Yeah. And so, you know, it didn't even really dawn on me because it really wasn't no thing. But I was like, man, 45. I said, damn.

27:50Chad Johnson:Well, we chopped 22 and a half. We'd have chopped it up. Easy. It done. Hey, listen.

27:55Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, I still got a one-way flight through him from five, six years ago I haven't used yet.

28:03Chad Johnson:Damn.

28:03Shannon Sharpe:How far? Yeah. How far? Like 300 miles. 400 miles.

28:11Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

28:12Shannon Sharpe:I'm glad. I'm going to save it for a rainy day. Yeah, dude, I'm glad y 'all didn't spend that money, though, man. I know it's only 22 miles. Yeah, but I don't think we could have got out yesterday, Jordan. I don't think they were letting anybody out yesterday. Today, they started canceling everything. And I was like, Shelly, like, oh, we still good. I fly, you know, she all happy, everything. I was like, Shelly, how they canceling every fight in front of us, every flight after us, and you think we're going to get out? what's special about us the president ain't gonna be on our flight I promise you lo and behold we get like 10 minutes from the airport it's starting to rain it's raining harder and harder and then the thing that red you see that red alert come up canceled and now as we start to go even further they done diverted traffic because the interstate's flooded they got cars underwater Ocho

29:05Chad Johnson:when it rain hard like that what they say God up there doing when it rained hard like that? I guess he cried because he wasn't going to let me get home. It was raining hard yesterday, Ocho. I ain't going to lie to you.

29:18Shannon Sharpe:I ain't seen it rain like that. I ain't seen it rain like that. Last time I saw it rain like that, they had the flooding in California when I first got out there. And it rained like that, and everybody ended up having the mudslides up in Santa Barbara and Montecito. That was the last time I seen it rain like that.

29:34Chad Johnson:Yeah.

29:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I was not down. I missed all that.

29:37Chad Johnson:yeah we was in that hey we was in the airport for a minute today boy we was in there for a minute oh i ain't gonna lie because they kept delaying i said oh man they're gonna cancel our damn flight but i'm gonna be sick too well by the time unc told me about the private flight here we was in the line the board yeah yeah what boy we didn't chop that 22.5 so quick yeah yeah we got stuff

30:00Shannon Sharpe:oh cho oh cho you you just told me you say oh you alive but you ain't living i'm gonna live yeah listen you gonna get home regardless and spend a 22.5 just to get home a little faster than normal yeah necessary and get and get the people and because they mad cops they see this is why i really had that ad read because in the live show yesterday so oh cho and so i can get home joe and i can get home because we got okay we holding up oh cho oh cho ready to go i don't like calling Ocho up.

30:31Chad Johnson:Bro, we were the first ones to get up yesterday, Ocho. My flight was at 3 o 'clock yesterday, man. I was a bit home, bro. Yeah! I just walked in the door at 11 45. Oh, the night? Yes! I jumped straight on, man.

30:50Shannon Sharpe:I had to take me a shower. I can't do nothing but not taking a shower. I don't care where I go. I'm taking a shower. Brush my teeth, brush my hair, oil on my beard and everything. I'm ready to go now. Hey Joe, you ain't getting no trouble, huh? Being late, huh?

31:03Chad Johnson:Oh man, come on, man. You know I'm Gucci over here, man. Stop playing with me. I had Shelly call. I had Shelly call, though, Joe. Hey, um, hey, um, hey, he don't run the house. He run around the house.

31:15Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he do. But Shelly call. Shelly the buffer. Shelly, you know, yeah, Shelly calling, like, you know, flattening late and everything like that. So Joe won't be late.

31:24Chad Johnson:Chad, what they boy think it is, Chad? Huh? I don't want to mess up your opportunity to come to Houston with me. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

31:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, once we done got the permission slip, we'll forge the rest of them, Ocho. Hold on.

31:41Chad Johnson:Chad, let me tell y 'all how immature Ocho is. Chad, let me tell y 'all. We on the plane. Just so happen, I'm sitting directly across from him, Ocho. Yeah. You know, soon we get on the plane, I'm tired. You know, mentally I'm drained because we've been in the airport all damn day. so the first thing i want to do give me some shut eye you hear me yeah i'm trying to go to sleep i'm put my hood on i'm lean my little chat back just a little bit not too much to where she had come you know what i mean right this man though he didn't hit his little beep i said damn i said damn what'd you hit that for i'm gonna tell you drink i said yeah i said there you must want something to drink he's saying now i'm gonna tell you you got your damn seat laid back i'm like damn um oh joe chat did the lady came over he damn show told on me too i'm like damn hey y 'all better be lucky i don't fly with me because you know every every every flight i'm on you know i asked her i asked uh the stewardess if we could do karaoke before we leave and they always let me get over the mic even though it's uh not fa fa yes yeah before we take off i do a little karaoke with first class.

32:53Chad Johnson:She ain't letting you do that.

32:55Shannon Sharpe:They would have. They would have. No. We ain't allowed to let you do it. Hey, Joe, hey. And I asked the flight attendant, I said, what's our motto? Safety is our number one priority. He's right, you know.

33:09Chad Johnson:Hey, Chad, he ain't lying. I promise you. And I said, hey.

33:12Shannon Sharpe:I said, and his seatbelt. I said, he just got it laid across his lap. You might want to check it out. Listen, listen.

33:17Chad Johnson:The whole time while he telling on me, Ocho, his whole seatbelt laying on the damn floor. She say, what about your seatbelt?

33:27Hey.

33:28Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Hey. Hey, Ocho, Joe was over there asleep. I touched him. I said, oh, man, my bad. I thought you wanted something. I thought I heard you call. I thought I heard you call my name.

33:41Chad Johnson:Hey, Ocho, what'd they do that at? I would have poured water on Joe, huh? Hey, Joe, you done what? You would have poured water on you right there. They just kicked us off the damn flight, too. Cause me and you would have had a Royal Rumble now. They didn't kick us off the front. Hey, you done had WWE again? They just had it last night

33:58Shannon Sharpe:and signed it out in Madison Square Garden.

34:00Chad Johnson:He'd have touched every seat in first class. I promise you. His little ass would touch every seat in first class. Hold on, Joe. They gonna put us on the no-fly list. Yeah, I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn.

34:15Chad Johnson:You gotta go to another airline. I don't give a damn. Hey.

34:22Shannon Sharpe:but man that ain't that was the longest and and when i work with cbs you got to think about it man i went there every i went for 10 straight years i would go in 19 to 20 weeks and i only got delayed one time damn got snow every time because i always catch the nine o 'clock flight so i would fly in i started out early because you know figured the beats of it out but then i just started flying in Saturday. I would go straight to the meeting, drop my bags off, go straight to the meeting, do that, come back, and then we do the show on Sunday, and then I go straight to the airport from the studio. Now, on the 9 o 'clock flight, I'm back.

35:01Shannon Sharpe:I'm in my bed. I'm in my bed after I was in the shower by midnight. I got delayed one time. One time. And here I'm in New York, and got delayed again. You know my son, I called my son, she You say, well, God didn't want you to get home. I said, that's what he didn't want me to get home, huh? Okay.

35:19Chad Johnson:Hello. Hello. That's how you got to look at it.

35:23Shannon Sharpe:I ain't got no choice. I can't, hey. I was like, but hey, if I don't know, I said, hey, Joe, they got a citation 10.

35:34Chad Johnson:Yeah.

35:35Shannon Sharpe:That'll get us there.

35:36Chad Johnson:Well, we'd have been right on.

35:37Shannon Sharpe:It probably wouldn't have been that expensive yesterday, Joe, but because it's last, it was like back up today, and to get up out because they weren't letting anything come up the East Coast. If you're coming in from this direction and you don't have to fly over, you're straight. Yeah, yeah. But our plane, you know, planes coming from Atlanta, and I'm playing from Philly. And ain't no way you can get around it. Right. Boy, I'm so glad when they say, oh, well, our plane is backing out. Our plane is on the runway. I said, let me know when you get halfway here.

36:09Chad Johnson:Hey, Chad, I ain't seen none of that. Ocho, I will sleep before we even start taxiing backwards. I will sleep. Yeah, Joe, you were tired, huh? Yeah, man, yeah.

36:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, well, come on, man. How you sleep on a plane? You can't sleep? You don't sleep on the plane? Mm-mm. Hey, I might doze off before we get up, but hey, once they talking about, hey, I feel that plane start moving, I'm wide awake. But why is that, though? Because I'm going to whip somebody trying to get up in that cockpit.

36:41Shannon Sharpe:I promise you. He ain't going to touch every seat in first class. He's going to touch every seat in the whole plane. I'm going to mop the floor with him.

36:51Chad Johnson:Oh, hey, you scarred. You scarred. Oh, yeah.

36:54Shannon Sharpe:After what happened in 2000, yeah, hell yeah.

36:58Chad Johnson:Yeah.

36:58Shannon Sharpe:I say, Lord, please don't put me on no flight with somebody trying to open up the door and doing all that kind of stuff. Because, boy, look here. I'm going to beat the brakes on him.

37:10Chad Johnson:yeah hey oh i feel you because listen like i told you on ocho hell i was on the plane during 9 11 bro i was headed that way right yeah so hey i'll be nervous too hey look i'll be watching everybody i'll be people watching i'll be too i can't even help i'm sorry if i'm staring at you too hard but hell i have to check everybody out who's sitting next to me man yeah for real and i and

37:32Shannon Sharpe:i'm looking what i'm doing is i'm trying to i'm trying to imagine how much force am i gonna have to exert i mean am i trying to subdue him or put him in or her or i'm trying to just like okay hey come on out and get it put the towel over put the heat over yeah yeah yeah hey i know what you mean boy hey i don't hey when i get on that plane uncle joe i'm gone three hour flight two hour flight hour flight my ass i know my ass i normally tell i normally tell the pilots you hold it down up here I got this back here. All right, Mr. Sharp, we're going to hold you to that. You bet you believe. Hold me to it.

38:13Shannon Sharpe:Hold me to it. And don't divert. You keep going. Don't divert because, hey, I've been on planes that's diverted, had medical emergencies or something like that. Oh, Lord.

38:26Chad Johnson:No, sir. Well, they had to turn that thing around and land. You one of them?

38:32Shannon Sharpe:Man, I done been on a plane where they wasn't going to drive us. they didn't take us to we're supposed to be going to Baltimore. But anyway, something happened and they diverted us to Richmond. Man, hey. Some people like, hey, we got a car. You want to ride? Yep. Sign me up. Yep, I want a ride. So I rode with them from Richmond to Baltimore. Damn. How long did it? It wasn't that long, don't you? I think it was like maybe like two hours. I think maybe May have been a little long. Oh, Cho. See, that was before I asked God to give me patience. To work with me with my patience. Yeah, that's right.

39:14Shannon Sharpe:Because now, you know, I'll think about it. Like, okay, let me see. Oh, Lord. Because I can't run through no airport. I see people running to the airport trying to catch their connection. Bro, if it ain't the next gate over, I'm stuck like Cho. You're stuck. Yep. I don't really do no connection though. I try my best not to do connections. I always show up and I never like to eat. But here's the thing though, Ocho, but what if you late? Sometimes the flight gets delayed. Oh no, I show up. I be at the airport, but they're in there two hours early for no reason because I like to eat at the airport.

39:51You like Shelly. Yeah, I like to eat at the airport.

39:53Shannon Sharpe:We done got to the airport. They say the thing is going to take us somewhere between 65 and 75 minutes. Right. We leaving at 4.30. Shelly calling me. I'm in the room. Her and Jordan done downstairs. She calling me. Let's go. Shelly, it's 1220. She's blowing my phone up. I know it's her. I ain't going to my bag to get this here. What took you so long? I said, Shelly, you said 1230. It is 1220. Well, he's been down here. He's making$500. I might make it wait till 1 o 'clock. The hell? We get to the airport. We get to the airport, it takes like 63 minutes to get to the airport. So we leave at 1230, 130.

40:37Shannon Sharpe:Flight leaving at 429. Oh, guess what? Oh, not a flight leaving at 515. Not a flight leaving at 630. Not a flight leaving at 703. Not a flight leaving at 820. Not a flight leaving at 9 o 'clock. So we been, come on, man. I know you were hot. What? My flight leave tomorrow at 330. I'll probably get to the airport 1230. so now we we in the we're in line at clear why the line isn't moving shelly do you see all these people unfortunately we weren't the only ones delayed yesterday i guarantee you they had their flights canceled and they were delayed also well i said well you go right ahead because the guy told us because we have touchless you got clear you got touchless and all that he said because you went through the clear if you want to go through touchless you got to go back out and read back in I said, I wish I might.

41:33Shannon Sharpe:I wish I might. Oh, this line isn't moving. What is she waiting on? She's waiting on the guy to tell her to step forward. That's what she's waiting on. I said, you be standing all on people's heels, breathing on the damn neck, when somebody shoots your elbow in the throat, you mad. Hey, it was thick in there.

41:50Chad Johnson:That couple of people. It was thick in there now. Yes, man, Joe. It was thick in there.

41:55Shannon Sharpe:Joe, we got there. And you know, I promise you, Shelly has less patience than me. You can ask Jordy about this. She had, and y 'all already know my patience. I'm like a one. Shelly's a zero. Shelly got no patience. Zero. And then it's like, oh, what's taking so long? It's Shelly. You'll see all these people. You make it seem like they ain't supposed to just, hey, you go ahead and put your bag up there, ma 'am. We're going to hold hours till yours go through, and then we'll put hours once you get through on the other side. How they putting their bags up on there too? Boy, she was on one today. I said, you know what?

42:35Shannon Sharpe:I got a trick for you. Hey, I mean, I threw my bag up there and shoved that thing, that line, and went on through there. I said, man, I ain't speaking to you until I get to the Sky Club because you're going to make me lose it in here. Man, she was on one, Joe, man.

42:51Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, needless to say, man, I had a good time in New York, boy. Hey, hey, hey, I appreciate y 'all for that one, boy.

42:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

42:59Chad Johnson:Roman Reigns, Jalen Brunson. Hey, I appreciate y 'all. Oh, yeah.

43:02Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. That thing was nice. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, wait, wait, wait. We went to 27. You know, wait. We start hitting that live to a telemocho. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm allowed to. I mean, are you all right? All right. Same. I can't be bad. It was an adventure, man. I don't know. It was. That is dope. Man, I listen. When y 'all left, I only fan that expressed by 730.

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48:09Shannon Sharpe:Don't miss Guns N' Roses. Lou Dort is heading to Atlanta in a three-way deal that sends former number one pick Zachary Rishar to the Mavericks. Atlanta gets Lou Dort, Ryan Nimhard, Dallas gets Rishar, and OKC gets three second-round picks. Joe, are you surprised that Atlanta will cut bait on the 2024 number one overall pick so soon? Richard is only 21 years of age and could still turn into a productive NBA player someday. He was benched by Quinn Snyder in the playoffs because of Jonathan Kaminga was clearly a better option. Instead of gambling on Richard's development and upside, while the$31.3 million he's owed over the next two seasons sits on the cap sheet of Atlanta Hawks.

48:57Shannon Sharpe:Basketball operation Salah, Ansi Salah, decided to exchange him for Lou Dort. Dort shot 38 % from the floor last season and will become a restricted free agent in the summer if Atlanta does not sign him to an extension. Actually, it's called Rizache.

49:15Chad Johnson:Rizache.

49:17Shannon Sharpe:Rizache, okay. Rizache.

49:19Chad Johnson:Yeah, nah, hey, look. I ain't surprised, man. You know, obviously, sometimes things just don't work out, bro. You know, when you look at it, Rizache is a great talent. I still think, you know, his upside will be pretty good. It's just when you get that number one pick, when you're that number one pick, bro, that shit weigh heavy. You can never live down.

49:39Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, we talked about it, Joe. You can never live down your draft slot.

49:41Chad Johnson:You can't. You can't. And so I think what they're trying to build in Dallas, he'll probably fit. And hopefully he comes around and he reaches his potential playing with Cooper Flag. I still think he'll be a pretty good player. Yeah, and Kyrie. I still think he'll be a pretty good player in this league. It's just, damn, when you look at him as a number one pick, you know what I mean? You just look like, oh, man. You know what I mean? But I think when he fell out of rotation during the season and then in the playoffs, he started getting DNPs. You know what I'm saying? So the writing was on the wall.

50:13Chad Johnson:It's like, you know, he probably obviously still had a little value and Atlanta used it, bro, and was able to bring in Lou Dort and little Nimhart from Dallas Mavericks. You know, his brother played for the Pacers. Now, Nimhart, he ain't as big as his brother, but he feisty. He tough. You know what I mean? Hell, I think he did, what, three, four years in college, if I ain't mistaken. So he's a guy who plays – I thought he played well above himself as a rookie last season, so I think he's going to be a great addition for the Hawks. But, hey, man, the Hawks got a little dork. We got some dogs over here, Ocho.

50:51Shannon Sharpe:Well, I'm not surprised by this. I'm not going to be – because they've already gotten rid of Isaiah Joe. Now they got rid of Dort, who's – you know, they picked up his option. and moved him. I'm going to be really surprised if Cason Wallace, because he's made it clear. I mean, Joe, when guys play really well, it's Brunson. And I'm not saying he can go and be what Brunson became from the Knicks. But when you get your opportunity, and he shows what he can do, Jalen Brunson got his opportunity. Luka got injured. He playing out of his damn mind. And you start to think, well, if he gets his own team or he goes somewhere where he's a focal point, he might can do something.

51:34Shannon Sharpe:Kaysom Wallace showed you. Kaysom Wallace says, hey, bro, y 'all never going to let me – bro, I'm going to be fourth. No matter how you look at it, I'm going to be fourth. You got Shea. You got J-Dub. You got Chet. Now you got Jared McClain. You got Jai Mitchell. Yeah. Excuse me, A.J. Mitchell. Yeah. So when is it going to be my run? Let me go somewhere I can be at least two, maybe three.

51:58Chad Johnson:They just were too guard and forward heavy. Okay, Ocho. Yes. And this is the price you have to pay when you're a good team and you draft well and you develop guys great. You got to get off some of them damn guys, man. You do. This is what's going – we're going to continue to see this. You look at the Spurs and what they're dealing with. That second apron. Yeah, that second apron, bro. That second apron. They don't want to have to – hey, they want to stay away from that. Yes. Go ahead, Joe. You look at OKC, they cut the tax bill from$102 million, Anka Ocho, to$19.6 million. You know what I mean?

52:37Chad Johnson:So that just shows you alone, bro, that teams in this league, especially the good teams, the salary cap is going to hurt them, bro. You got to get off these players.

52:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And it's a situation, Joe, you know what? Even at winning. Because they're only a year removed from winning the championship. Right. That's still too much money. It is. Nah, it ain't worth it. And I'm not saying Cason Wallace can beat Jalen Brunson, but he don't want to be no fifth or sixth option because he's shown you he's more than capable of being a second or a third option at worst. Yeah, yeah. That's like, I mean, who wants to be Ocho? I mean, I show you what I can do. The number one receiver gets hurt. I come in and I fill in for him and I go get me up by 1 ,200 yards. Man, you think I want to go back to be a second option?

53:24Shannon Sharpe:You think I want to go back to be a third option? I've shown you that I'm more than capable. People don't get it. It's easy for you to say that because you look at it from a distance. But sometimes you've got to put yourself in somebody's shoes. And, Joe, you've been there. You know what it was like. Joe's like, man, I can't keep – hey, I love Big Phoenix, but, bro, I'm going to be behind Amari. I'm going to be behind Steve Nash. I'm going to be behind Q. I'm going to be behind – Sean Marion. Sean Marion. Bro, let me go somewhere I can be at worst case number two option. Damn.

53:56Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but you think about it, man. The Thunder, man, Sam Presley, bro. We got to give him more credit. I mean, think about it. They didn't receive, what, three seconds. They got over seven second round picks, you know, throughout this whole summer, bro. Like, they loaded. They going to stay loaded with talent because how they produce talent, how they achieve. How they draft.

54:20Shannon Sharpe:They got kind of like R.C. Buford.

54:22Chad Johnson:in San Antonio. Yeah. Yeah. So look, so instead of declining Lou Dort's$17.7 million, Uncle Ocho, they saved money by trading him and getting all these assets. See, you know what I mean? So instead of just declining it and I guess letting him play, they're like, damn, man, we'll pick it up and then we'll trade him. We can get

54:44Shannon Sharpe:assets for him.

54:45Chad Johnson:We'll be able to get assets for him and that's kind of what they've done.

54:48Shannon Sharpe:You know how sometimes you go throw stuff away and have some value to somewhere. Hey, take it to Goodwill and get a tax write-off. Take it to the Salvation Army and get a tax write-off. Don't just give it away. You know what's funny? Most of the time, obviously, maybe the NBA might be different, but everything is a copycat league in the NFL. When teams or owners see something that works, most of the time if they don't have ego and they can set their pride aside, they copy what other teams do. I'm not sure why other teams don't copy the Spurs formula or copy the Thunder's formula on how they not only acquire talent but also develop talent so you can keep moving and stay underneath that apron, in a sense, the same way.

55:27Shannon Sharpe:Well, I think the fake is, but you're still going to come available because guess what you got? You got Chet, you got J-Dub, and you got Shea. Now, in a couple of years, Shea going to be back up. Shea going to be over$400. That's what you do. Ooh. And Jay Mitchell going to want to get paid, too. Now, he got paid. I think he got a three-year deal. So what happens in a couple of years? Kason Wallace has already said, man, I need my bread. Yeah. You just can't. They don't look. When this thing became available, it's just like what we talk about all the time, Mocho, with the CBA. Y 'all know what was in the CBA.

56:02Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all sign it because you feel you have to because you can't miss any checks. Well, now in the process of rushing because you can't miss any checks, you signed a bad deal.

56:14Chad Johnson:Yeah. now all of a sudden you say yeah yeah yeah but you meant no no no it's too late

56:24Shannon Sharpe:name on the contract it's certified look i know y 'all they got the lawyer like they got they got lawyers they're bill see lawyers see the thing is when you want no more high-priced lawyers on show take it from your boy i know they're being in six minute increments six minute increments They charge you$1 ,500,$2 ,000,$2 ,500 an hour. But they bill you in six-minute increments. Yes. So you think, hey, no, I'm a good listener. No, bro, you already told me that. Yeah, we good. Go on to something else. Yeah, you already told me that. Ain't no double talking. Hell no. Ain't no double talking. Mm-mm.

56:59Shannon Sharpe:Hey. And if you put it, hey, don't text me. Yeah, I got it. You put it in a group chat. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, hey, do you need to talk about anything? No, I'm good. Yeah.

57:10Chad Johnson:Yeah.

57:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

57:11Chad Johnson:At the end of the day, when you look at it, Lou Dort, Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins. So the Hawks got Aaron Wiggins and Lou Dort from a championship team at OKC. Now, although, you know, for whatever reason, well, obviously salary cap reasons, they wasn't, they was not as valuable for OKC. But guess what? They're going to be some hell of a additions for these, for some other teams, bro. You know what I like? What's that?

57:42Shannon Sharpe:He in a contract year. Lou Dorn. Lou Dorn. Yeah. They're going to pay him over there. Wait, they're going to be able to pay him over there, Joe? What'd you say? They're going to be able to pay him over there in Atlanta?

57:55Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. You know, winning, if you win, you get paid, Ocho.

57:59Shannon Sharpe:If they don't resign, if they got$40 million in cap space. But you got guys that can compete on the defensive end. You got Dyson Daniels. That was an all-NBA selection. First team, yeah. Lou Dort was first team. You got a Nikhil Alexander-Walker. You got guys that can defend because, look, offense is great. But if you look at the situation, when the rubber needs to meet the road, you got to get some stops somewhere.

58:22Chad Johnson:Got to get some stops. And I ain't going to lie. You got to have some guys who are going to make shots. That's the only thing that worries me about Lou Dort. Not necessarily Lou Dort because I think he's going to get a lot of wide-open looks. considering the fact that I think this past year, he probably averaged about 5.53s a game, shooting at probably about 38%, 39%. He got to bump that up a little bit. You know, try to get into the early 40s because you're going to get so many wide open looks. And Coach Quinn, this is what they preach, bro. The offense is designed, you know, obviously through Jalen Johnson who creates so much attention, but he's a willing passer.

58:59Chad Johnson:I can't also hell. I think he, how many of this? is I think he had like seven, eight assists. Because he wasn't far behind Jokic when it come to a triple-double game. So I say that to say this. You bring them guys over, bro, they're going to get great looks. We just need them to defend, play hard. Amen. I know I told y 'all the Wizards could make the biggest jump in the Eastern Conference. Hey, my damn Hawks ain't playing now.

59:26Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. This is a great situation. I think the thing is, is that, Ocho, you asked the question, why can't they do it? Because everybody can't select players. They fall in love with names. A lot of times, the people that you hear that them draft, you're like, who? You're like, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Kawhi Leonard.

59:45Chad Johnson:Right.

59:48Shannon Sharpe:Jalen Williams. Jalen Williams. They get names. Ain't nobody all this fancy, you know, all this and all that and player of the year. None of that. they develop well though that's going to fit their system that's going to come in ain't going to buck the system understand the hierarchy hey look Pop going to be in there Pop going to always have say in there you got to understand Pop is old school he ain't what he once was as far as being able to get around and do things like that but his imprint is going to be on there and he's going to be able to walk into a meeting and he's going to be at practice and say when you bull jiving and tell you you need to do better.

1:00:31Shannon Sharpe:Get good or get gone, son.

1:00:33Chad Johnson:Ooh. Hey, when you go to great teams like that, though, you don't have no choice but to fall in line. Absolutely. Because the best players are leading by example, Uncle Ocho, and it's just a great environment for a young cat to come into and wants to know what it's like to be a pro. I mean, let's keep it 100. Hell, it's Oklahoma City, bro. It ain't a whole hell of a lot going on that you're going to get into. You know what I mean? it's just like, I'll be honest with you, it's just like playing in Utah. Hey man, I had a blast playing in Utah. It ain't a whole hell of a lot to do at night. So you be locked in.

1:01:06Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? Right. And I think that's kind of what it is at OKC.

1:01:11Shannon Sharpe:Remember, Greg Popovich, they traded George Hill. They traded George Hill to select Kawhi. Everybody's like, why would you do that? Oh, that's why. Okay. That's why. You know, Tim Duncan is a no-brainer. He was the consensus number one player in the country. He stayed all four years. So it's easy to select the Tim Duncan. Go get me a Tony Parker. Go get me a Manu Ginobili. Go get me a Kawhi Leonard. Now you impressing me.

1:01:42Chad Johnson:Hello. Because I've never seen Kawhi play in college. Nope. I ain't going to lie to y 'all. And I'm a basketball junkie over here. I ain't seen him.

1:01:53Shannon Sharpe:and now look at him. Getting there the first year, he's a little green. Worked on that jumper. They get beat. His rookie year, they get beat in the finals by the comeback. Lose game seven. You know, hey, he missed that free throw. They kept missing one. There was one. Make one, miss one. Gave the Heat an opportunity. They lose in seven. Come back. Kawhi Finals MVP in the second year. Now, Tim Duncan retires. Now he got the mentality, oh, my team, I ain't got to defer it. They need more from me? Yeah. Now all of a sudden he gave you 25. Now he giving you 25 points a night. He giving you 24, 25 points a night.

1:02:32Shannon Sharpe:And he's playing outstanding defense, back-to-back defensive player of the year. Before that injury, he wasn't – I mean, they're talking about, oh, he the best too. It wasn't nobody close to Kawhi as far as being a two-way player. It wasn't nobody close.

1:02:45Chad Johnson:Nah.

1:02:49Shannon Sharpe:He was special. before the injury started taking this toll on his body, Joe. Yeah. Bro, you see what he did with his healthy this year. Career high points. He was nice. He asked me. He proved his three ball, his midi, being turnaround or going left or right. Yeah. What core average this year?

1:03:15Chad Johnson:Like 26, I think. Yeah, yeah. Boy, balling, man. Balling like a dog. The one thing I say about Kawhi, and I know a lot of people harp on him as far as like, you know, sitting out games, not playing. But damn it, when he do play Arcan Ocho, that boy cut up, man. And when you look at him, he always looks like he in great shape. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he cut, he jiggle. Yeah. Yeah, you don't never see him really out of shape. So for me, for a guy who played in the league for quite some time, bro, and I see that, like, I know you doing something different. because Kawhi ain't no spring chicken no damn more.

1:03:51Chad Johnson:Hell no. No.

1:03:52Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, Joe, you know, you see what a guy you like, man, he got a chance. And look, he's a top 75 player. So, I mean, you're talking about a guy that's a two-time defensive player of the year. He's a two-time finals MVP with two different teams. Yeah. You know, once upon a time, that meant something. And, you know, he'd go to the Clippers and win a third one. that was going to say something. Then somebody else went somewhere and went to third one, and all of a sudden it don't mean as much of it. You know what I'm saying? But, Joe, you know what I'm talking about, Joe. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

1:04:26Shannon Sharpe:I got you. I got you. I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah, I get you. I get you. But Kawhi, man, I'm talking about he could take the best team's player until Zaza Bacheek's shot slid his foot up on his ankle on that jump shot and he came down on that Golden State. because, look, one thing about Pop, no matter how good your team is, Pop going to find a way to solve it. Oh, yeah.

1:04:50Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Man, I'm telling y 'all, Pop ain't letting you go on no damn run. You score two buckets in a row, Ochoa, four-on run. Timeout, timeout, timeout.

1:04:59Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you remember he started the game? He hack a shack to start the game, and look at that shack he talked about.

1:05:07Chad Johnson:Yeah. Pop ain't letting you get no momentum, bro. He ain't letting you get no momentum. Hell no.

1:05:13Shannon Sharpe:Man, Bob, I said, come on. How you starting the game with a foul?

1:05:19Chad Johnson:He too respected, Uncle Ocho. Them dudes, please. Oh, he is. They run through a brick wall for him, bro.

1:05:24Shannon Sharpe:Yep. I can definitely see that. But I'm just waiting to see what everybody talking about LeBron and him holding it up and going so we can find out where, you know, set the schedule. I think people are just as interested in what's going to happen with Kawhi. Oh, yeah.

1:05:43Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. If this deal is going to go through or not.

1:05:45Shannon Sharpe:Right. If the deal is going to go through, is he going to face a suspension? Are the Clippers going to face a suspension? There's another big name out there that hadn't been signed. James Harden. Are the Cavaliers waiting to see what LeBron's going to do? Before they bring James Harden back on JoJo?

1:06:01Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Because he opted out. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. because if I'm James, I ain't opting out my damn contract unless I know for sure I got a verbal agreement, something written down. I got to have something up. Yeah.

1:06:15Shannon Sharpe:Hey, especially after they did him in Philly. Remember how they did him in Philly? He told him the guy was going to take care of him, and he didn't take care of him. Yeah. Yeah, you can't burn me twice with that.

1:06:27Chad Johnson:Nah, he'll crash out. He'll crash out. And rightfully so.

1:06:33Shannon Sharpe:And rightfully so. Yeah, he should crash out. But look, it's hard to argue anything that the OKC Thunder and the San Antonio Spurs do. Because San Antonio, this is 20 plus years, 25 years. At least it's a smaller sample size with OKC. but Sam Preston when you draft Kevin Durant you draft Russell Westbrook James Harden Serge Ibaka you had Reggie Jackson you look at his draft picks it's hard to argue with him the trades that he's made he traded he made a trade for PG

1:07:18Chad Johnson:he got Paul George

1:07:21Shannon Sharpe:turned Paul George into Shea he got an Alex Caruso he get the the Cason Wallace's and Isaiah Joe's and the it's a smaller sample size than what San Antonio's done but over the last but it's hard to argue this over a decade

1:07:40Chad Johnson:yeah no I don't think nobody has developed more players than OKC has Sam Preston and his system and whatever they got going on over there Uncle Ocho and OKC boy when they draft they develop and them guys produce yes and this is the results of it like hey man i know because the camaraderie that they have over there and okc all them guys probably want to stay together because they want to tie it together it always seemed like they're enjoying each other's company having fun but hey you got to break that up bro you keep the core nucleus together but a lot of them guys that's sitting on the bench although they they help in many different ways, they just aren't as valuable as a Shay, Chick, J-Dub.

1:08:23Chad Johnson:So you kind of have to get off them guys. And then other teams, hell, they don't want you to keep winning. They want to take some of them assets you got over there. Hell yeah, for sure.

1:08:32Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely.

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