Nightcap Hour 1: Spurs SHUT DOWN Thunder to even series + Mitch Johnson was FUMING at Carter Bryant

20:42Shannon Sharpe:they ain't letting them guys run Wimby off the spot. When he come across the lane and they nudging him and what they were normally doing, they holding him down, Scott Foster blowing that whistle. If you notice the stuff that they let them get away with, especially in game two, they didn't let that slide. that's why you see the free throw discrepancy you saw one team shot 18 the other team shot 32 now the problem is now you get into a close ball game y 'all missing those free throws they missed a lot of free throws Joe those are easy buckets those are an opportunity for the clock to be stopped and for you to expand on your lead you know Uncle Joe I kind of feel bad for Hardenstein and Shedd at times obviously because of the disadvantage that they're at when they're playing against Wimby because of height, because of length, and the ref wasn't holding the whistle tonight, Joe.

21:34The ref wasn't holding the whistle tonight, and it's like, well, damn, now y 'all at his mercy no matter what because in order to play against him, you got to be aggressive.

21:41Chad Johnson:You got to. You already know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know all the goddamn basketball terms and terminology to use, but it was like almost unfair. They don't have a chance if they can't add that other element to trying to stop him. And every time they tried to do it tonight, the ref called a goddamn foul. Well, look, when you look at Wimby, yeah, they fighting him. Hardenstein trying to fight him, but, man, look, there's only so much you can do. If I go look at the tape and see the adjustments I got to make, stand my ground. You see how he holding his ground in that post?

22:16Chad Johnson:You know, they leaning on him and all that. He leaning back on him. He's starting to understand, bro. He's learning as this playoff goes on. Like, he, I mean, I don't know if his play can get better because he's had some huge games. But, man, this is going to be a pivotal game five in OKC. And I'm not going to tell y 'all no lie. San Antonio scares me. And I know we kind of in the moment because they just won a big game and they did a hell of a job defensively. But they play great defense on the road too, man. You know, they get off to great starts on the road too. So even in the Minnesota series, you know, in Minnesota, they're getting off the 10-0 runs to start the game.

22:56Chad Johnson:So I know what they're capable of. It's just can they sustain it for 48 minutes. I think the thing is, Joe, is that we'd have been very foolish

23:06Shannon Sharpe:and naive to think they were going to shoot the ball like they did in game three. I mean, Caruso couldn't miss. Jayla Williams couldn't miss. Nobody. Think about it. They scored 76 points off the bench.

23:16Chad Johnson:Yeah.

23:17Shannon Sharpe:They outscored their starters. And one of those starters is Shea, and Shea had a phenomenal game. so for me it's like okay and I'm sure coach Johnson told him say guys what do you think the likelihood let's just continue to play defense like we're playing and let's see if they can shoot the ball if they shoot the ball like that again if we play defense like we play but let's shut up some of that water let's not those wide open looks let's try to run them off the spots Jalen Williams had some of those same looks and they didn't go down Wallace and Joe and Caruso had some of those same looks and they didn't go down.

23:54Shannon Sharpe:So let's play the averages. Yeah, guy went five of eight. Yeah, one guy went four of six. But that's not what the average is. So the likelihood of them being able to shoot the ball like that again. But I tell you what, you defend just like you normally, like we play. We don't normally give up open looks like that. That's not who we are. But if we defend like I know we can defend, we can beat that team.

24:23Chad Johnson:Yeah. And you can see, you could just tell when you was watching the game today, you could tell that San Antonio watched the film and was like, listen, we are overextending too much help, leaving guys wide open, not knowing why, man, it wasn't none of that tonight, fellas. Hell, it wasn't a wide open look tonight. Hey, them guys was getting right to it defensively, probably why they didn't play great offensively. You know, they just leaned on Wimby. but OKC, hey, they got their hands full, bro. They got their hands full because when you got two guys in your starting lineup who barely giving you points, man, it's just hard.

25:00Chad Johnson:And you hoping that Check Holmrich was going to come around and give you one of them big games? I don't think he going to be able to. Not with Wimby. I don't even see it.

25:09Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you know what it's like, Joe? It's like when we play time. Whoever time was guarding, you not going to get no balls. Understand that. Hey, get you some great cardio in. You're not going to have to come in and run on Monday because all your running is going to be doing on Sunday. But we're not throwing it to you. So if Wimby's guarding you, unless he comes – now, if he comes to blocking, you see a couple of times, he came to block a shot, Chet got a rebound, put it back. Or guys come get a rebound because weak side. He's going to challenge everything. If he's close, he's going to challenge it.

25:42Shannon Sharpe:So that's your opportunity. But as far as taking him off the bounce, that's not happening. And you have to understand also, Wallace, Wallace is, it's amazing. When Kohler, the global design leader in luxurious kitchen and bath products, came to me and said, Martha, we need an ambassador for our timeless, elegant, durable cast iron products. I said, I'm in. Now let me see the factory. Weeks later, I was suited up in coveralls and work boots, walking through their Kohler, Wisconsin, cast iron foundry. I stood next to the molten iron furnace, saw the hand applying enamel, and touched the gorgeous finished products waiting to be sent out into the world.

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30:19Shannon Sharpe:How guys, and sometimes we see this a lot, Ocho, with guys, guys come in, and they're like, oh man, if he was starting. No, he going against the second and third and fourth guys. Now he's got to go against one and two guys. He's got to go against Vassale. He's got to go against Castle. He's got to go against Champagny. That's a whole different damn ball game. Yes, sir. Than taking Harrison Barnes or taking Kelton Johnson. Because those guys don't play defense like those first three guys that I mentioned. Even tonight, you look at De 'Aaron Fox dig his heels in. Yeah. They say, hey.

30:57Chad Johnson:I mean, D Fox led him in rebound. He had 10 rebounds.

31:01Shannon Sharpe:11 points, 10 rebounds, five assists, no turnovers. Luke Cornett, the nuns were there. They say, do your mind and we bless you. Take a look at the video, y 'all.

31:12Chad Johnson:I seen it, I seen it.

31:19Hey, hey. You know what's funny too? Oh, they were really, they were nuns from real? Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I was watching, I think, thinking about it in the third quarter, they panned to him in the stands and I thought it was part of, you know. No, you thought it was people dressed up. Yeah, like, remember, what's the Redskins? What's, oh my God, Ocho. Remember the commanders? Remember the, what's the characters? They had the piece, they were called something. Oh yeah, you're talking about,

31:49Shannon Sharpe:the Hulk, yeah, they had the Hulk answer though. Yeah, I know you're talking about, yeah. Yeah, and then, you know, and the Broncos had the guy with the barrel, the barrel thing. Yeah, I thought that was something like that. But I didn't know they were real nuns.

32:02Chad Johnson:I see why Cornell was pissed off by the Magic City night here. He hanging with nuns. Yeah, hey.

32:11Chad Johnson:Hey.

32:14Shannon Sharpe:Guess what? They going to be back in attendance on game six. They might even fly the game five. Yeah. Wait. This was four. Game five, back at OKC, right? back in San Antonio on Thursday. Yeah. Hey, Joe, if the Spurs can muster it up and steal one more, not steal, steal one away?

32:41Chad Johnson:Well, I mean, we've seen them do it before, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think in order for that to happen, Wimby going to have to play big, and these guards really going to have to take away OKC, other offensive opportunities, bro. Meaning, we gonna play a mano a mano, one-on-one defense. We ain't giving no damn help. You on that island by yourself. Make his ass take and make tough, contested shots. Man, listen, the way they move and they feed today, boy, I ain't gonna lie. As a guy who enjoys seeing great defensive games, bro, like when you can really mirror a guy, you know how y 'all say in football, a DB, that's like the hardest position to play because you gotta mimic what a guy doing You got to do the same thing on defense, but you got to do it going backwards.

33:29Chad Johnson:Yes, sir. Bro, how can you know and understand and guess everything that the offensive guy is doing where you can stay in front of them and you be right there on all his moves, his crossovers, his hesitations, his hitches and all that? When you got guys who can guard like that, bro, them elite defenders, man. Yeah. Hey, I know we talk a lot about Wimby and what he brings to the table, and he does bring a lot. He is the difference maker. Without him, this is a backyard game, and it's even. But with him on the floor and him playing like the way he played tonight, it's hard to beat him, bro, when he get it going, man, because he opens up the floor and he draws so much attention to himself that you start to get these wide-open threes for these other guys.

34:13Chad Johnson:San Antonio is scary, bro.

34:14Shannon Sharpe:They've been scary all damn year here. SGA is shooting 31 of 79. That's 39 % from the floor versus the Spurs. Now, you talk about a guy that shot 53%, 55 % in the regular season. This man is shooting 15%, 16 % lower than what he shot on the regular season in winning back-to-back MVPs. That lets you know how elite defensibly this team is. And like you said, he get there because you know a lot of times he like to pin the guys on his back. Okay, you pin them on your back, but go ahead. I'm going to run you right in there. I'm going to run you right there to the Lions then. I'm going in there. There you go, go ahead.

34:55Shannon Sharpe:If he get there, he's like, oh, let me try to pass this thing off because he already know. Now, he did hit a couple of tough shots over Wimby. I will give you that. Yeah. If you hit those shots, the man jumping, you shooting the ball 11 feet in the air, and you swishing up the nets, good job, good job, good job. Hell of a play.

35:14Chad Johnson:Yeah. Because he ain't going to be able to make enough of them shots to beat you. You know what I'm saying? Okay, cool. You may make two or three of them cool. But, hell, as long as you don't make 10 of them, 12 of them, are we good.

35:28Shannon Sharpe:And the likelihood of you making 10 to 12 of them. Now, look, he's a tough shot maker. And the great ones can take and make tough shots. But they're not – that's not – they like to get going making easy shots. Then they'll expand. They're making him take and make tough shots from the jump, Joe. he ain't get no layups he ain't sliding through the defense because they're keeping him from playing on the edges he wants to play on an edge he's looking to crack a scene they're like nah we're going to shut this off bro you ain't coming through here you ain't coming through here and if you do get through it throw it up in the front row yeah hey Joe I know Shea only had 19 he was 6 for 15 really wasn't that well but the shots he did make Joe when he put that ball in the float and get to his spot, it's dribble, dribble.

36:21Or the guy try to play aggressive to one side,

36:24Chad Johnson:he just take that corner and keep him pin right on his goddamn hip. And if they too close, he'll pump the pull up. It's like a very smooth. It's not herky-jerky. You know how some players, it's like herky. You know how? Everything is real smooth the way you do it. What he's trying to do, you know,

36:47Shannon Sharpe:he'll put that shoulder in and try to dislodge you from the spot. So that's how he creates separation. He's gonna put the shoulder down, he's gonna drive. You're gonna try to cut him up at the point. He gonna give you that little nudge. Now he's created the separation that he needs to elevate and shoot the shot. Hey, ain't that how Melo used to create separation too?

37:07Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, Melo was a little mess with that little shoulder knife. Yeah, yeah. Hey, but San Antonio got guys who know but I know how to absorb them bumps and still, you know, make it tough for you, bro. It's like some guys offensively, if I make a move on you, boom, I can knock you out of the play, meaning you can't even recover. You know what I mean? These guys, they never get knocked out of the play, bro. They stay within the play. Yeah, you may make a good move on them. They still pursue. They still on high pursuit. You know, they just got a lot of hungry dogs over there, bro. and I really think they really, really feel like this is an opportunity for them to, you know, win a title.

37:48Chad Johnson:We're just going to keep it 100. And I know they wouldn't like it. They wouldn't want to know the way than going through OKC. You know what I mean? But, boy, it's going to be a tough feat. I think this is going to be OKC's hardest feat to try and overcome over the past few years. You know, if you could get through this Spurs team, I ain't saying it's going to be sweet. But, damn it, it ain't going to be like this. I believe Wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on Let's backtrack now before this series Started okay Now I understand what you heard what you just said Joe now remember you went up now y 'all Pick the goddamn thunder to win this series remember that Huh yeah okay I'm just making Sure I want y 'all to stick to your gun Okay don't flip No but I believe Joe

38:32Shannon Sharpe:I think deep down I mean Sometimes you say you say what you said On surface level oh we can beat this team but i believe deep down i believe they can beat they can beat okc they play like they're not in awe of okc nah they don't stand around they a from the jump ball let's do it up bro what you got

38:54Chad Johnson:yeah soon that ball go up yeah you're right they after you they at your neck look all year man they they've they've competed at the highest level they've been at the top of the western conference the whole entire year. Like, they know they can compete with the best. They know they have what it takes to win a title. They just got to go out there and do it.

39:13Shannon Sharpe:Yes. And I think the thing is, like I said, they just have to be – because here's the thing, Joe. The turnover, the ticky-tack silly turnover that they had late in the third quarter and the fourth quarter, they had such a lead that didn't hurt them. You in a game, a nip-tuck ball game, you down two, you up two. You down five, you up five. Now all of a sudden, that puts you down, you're potentially down seven, you're down ten. Or it gives you an opportunity to be up seven, up ten. So in a situation like this, you think about it, and that's the thing that you have to learn, is that you still have to be critical of yourself even in a win.

39:51Shannon Sharpe:Most people don't want to be critical of themselves because you say, hey, the objective is to win the game. But if you don't correct the small things, when you win, they'll bite you in your ass, and then you're like, well, you could have corrected it earlier.

40:04Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

40:06Shannon Sharpe:It's like a child. You keep giving him what he wants, and you don't correct that behavior. What happens as he gets older? He gets older. When you haven't corrected said behavior, you got to. You got to. And you watch him. I watch him. I'm just watching him. Boy, they like, nah, I ain't They fighting over screen They running through people They do it, hey

40:36Chad Johnson:You see how physical it is out there, man? I'm talking about Listen, I'm talking about Even if you ain't got the ball and you said in the pick You know how they push Bro You know, when you Make an adjustment in a playoff series That's the one thing that Teams will always try to adjust to And that's the physicality of the game because that's going to determine who wants it more. You know, I see these dudes running through screens. They ain't laying on the pick. They getting that leg. Hey, I'm talking about competition at as high as level. This is why we watch.

41:13Shannon Sharpe:This is why we watch, fella. You better, hey, I tell you what, when you set the pick, you better nail your shoes to the floor because they're going to run through your ass. Excuse me. They not playing. They not playing. They are not playing. They not, bro. So you sit a little lazy, pick if you want to. But I was so impressed with the way they won the game. I mean, nobody shot the ball well, and that's because both teams I thought played outstanding defense. The difference in the ball game, and Joe, what we say, we always say Hardenstein and Chet need to cancel out Wimby. Their points, their rebounds, their blocks, their assists needs to equal his.

41:54Shannon Sharpe:tonight they were 22 16 and 5 Wimby was 33 8 and 5 bro he basically damn near tripled y 'all up y 'all got 22 he got 33 he got 33 Chet gotta give more than that if Hardenstein gonna give me 12 Joe I'm looking that's a game that we could probably gonna win yeah yeah you gotta realize we ain't running no plays for him nope he's shooting the ball late in the shot clock go back and look at his shots all of them was under five seconds

42:36Chad Johnson:man okay see it's like chick homeridge he ain't fast twitch enough you know for his height like he can't it's like everything he do is so methodical and kind of slow body that yeah yeah yeah

42:50Shannon Sharpe:Watch when he shoot the three, Joe. Yeah.

42:54Chad Johnson:That's how Champini blocked his three-point shot last game. You know what I'm saying? It's like his moves are so methodical that it's kind of hard for him to get his stuff off. And that's just me watching. That's my observation. I'm like, because I'm looking at other ways how OKC can kind of offset this pressure. Hell, they can't, bro. They can't offset it because the bigs, Hartenstein and Check, Holmbrick, they're going to always be in Check because of Wimby here. You know what I mean? It's just, the Spurs just got so much, bro. I'm talking about from a competitive standpoint and guys who look like and seem like they've really taken it personal.

43:31Chad Johnson:They've taken their challenge. They've taken on, you know what I mean? They understand their assignment, bro. And it's a good thing to watch because we've seen OKC dominate so much, so long, especially Shea and his position. we never thought there would be anybody who could really, you know, sit in the chair and make it tough for them. We've seen Marcus Smart do a great job on him against the Lakers. He got that one game he got out. And we knew that San Antonio had guys who could really guard, bro, and they showing it, bro. They are showing it.

44:02Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead, Ocho.

44:03Chad Johnson:Thank you, Joe. All right, I was just going to say I'm glad to see y 'all give us praise, you know. I'm not saying us as in I'm a part of the Spurs, But I'm just saying, since that's the team that I picked to win this series, I mean, it is very refreshing to finally see y 'all give us our flowers. And what I knew was going to happen before the series even started. Huh? We've been giving them their props, though. Yeah, I know. I understand. I understand what you're saying, Joe. And with all due respect, you know, even with those props, both of you, I asked specifically before the series started, are you sure you want to pick the Thunder to win this series?

44:38I asked you twice. And both times, y 'all said yes, we're confident. You don't realize it's 2-2 heading back to OKC, right? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Sit me down there. Sit me down there. Sit me down. Sit me down. It's supposed to be 2-2, huh? We know this was going to be a boxing match. We knew it was. But the one thing that separates the two teams was Wimby. And I said that. And Wimby had a game tonight. Now, along with Wimby having the game he had tonight, them young bulls play defense out the yin-yang. Huh? Yeah. The question is, Ocho, the question is,

45:12Chad Johnson:can they duplicate this performance in okc and see that's the problem that's the problem when i just said when we first started the show how unpredictable basketball is where i was kind of nervous the way they got the okay i gotta stop saying goddamn like seriously okay it's becoming part of my god my yeah it's becoming part of my vocabulary and people in the chat i'm not saying G-O-D. I'm saying G-O-T. Yeah. But anyway, how the game is so unpredictable, Joe, the bench. Oh, would you say they had 76 last game, right? Hey, Joe, I'm thinking they finna come and do the same thing this game. They was a no-show.

45:56Chad Johnson:Yeah. I didn't think that they would give 76. I just think every game is gonna require somebody different to step up. You know what I mean? And you had McCain with what he had, 22, 23 last game. Caruso has been solid this whole postseason, but he didn't give you nothing tonight. So you got to get back to the drawing board. This is why it's a series and not one game. They got to go home and take care of home court, bro. They got two games they can potentially, you know, if it goes seven, they'll have two games at home, one game in San Antonio. It's going to go down to the wire, though. The wire's going to go down to the wire.

46:37Shannon Sharpe:Well, they had what? They had 34 tonight. They had 76. OKC's bench had 34 tonight. That's 42 less than what they had the other night. Joe, but what's impressive? Think about this. OKC scored 48 in the first half. They scored 34 in the second. 34 points.

47:01Chad Johnson:Yeah, man. Hey, hey.

47:04Shannon Sharpe:This is a virtuoso. Yeah.

47:08Chad Johnson:This is Palarotti at the Sydney Opera House.

47:12Shannon Sharpe:Hey, what you know about Palarotti? That's what that is. That's what that was. That's the Beatles on Ed Sullivan.

47:21Chad Johnson:Yeah.

47:24Okay.

47:26Chad Johnson:Hey, were you cultured? Hey, from a defensive standpoint, you're absolutely right. But, you know, I think San Antonio knows and understands that they are capable of these type of performances defensively to where they just shut your whole offense down. You know, they've done it on numerous occasions throughout this postseason. And I'm sure they're going to be looking to go in to OKC, and they're going to be looking to steal game five.

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52:28Chad Johnson:Damn.

52:31Shannon Sharpe:Was it 50 to 38?

52:42Shannon Sharpe:50 to 38. So they scored 44. I thought it was 60 to 48, but it was 50 to 38. Still, they only scored 44 points in the second half. 44 points in the second half. What's even more impressive, they scored 38 in the first.

53:03Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

53:06Shannon Sharpe:38 points. That team. Yeah. We've seen that team score 70. We've seen that team score 80 points and a half. Yeah, yeah. You got a two-time league MVP. A four-time first team All-NBA. Chet was on the all-defensive first team, and I think if he made what? What did he make? Second team or third team All-NBA? Damn. He made third team All-NBA. So they got two All-NBA selections on that team. And they got two All-NBA, two defensive NBA on that team. And they got held to 38 points in the first half, 44 in the second half. That is crazy the way they played, the way they defended tonight.

53:59Chad Johnson:hey you got hey hey you gotta have guys who i'm telling you man who do not mind taking that challenge fellas that's what that's what tonight was hey hey hey hey no i don't need no help tonight i got him i got him hell he make a tough shot on me he make one but i'm moving these puppies

54:18Shannon Sharpe:joe back in the 70s 80s 90s early 2000 the one thing as a team we would always say our defense will travel because it wouldn't get too cold. It wouldn't get too hot. It wouldn't get too windy. It wouldn't get too wet. San Antonio, that what y 'all did tonight, that'll travel. Because you can take and make shots. The wind might be blowing on your wing. We ain't gonna be able to throw it like we once could. It might be a blizzard. The wind might be gusting at 60 miles an hour. It might be a deluge. But defensively, we can package that we can put it i can play defense on the moon where they ain't got no gravity i can play i can play it on saturn i can play it on in the sun it does not matter yeah what yeah what the spurs did tonight that will travel the question is where your mindset because defense is a mindset yep gotta want to

55:26Shannon Sharpe:It's a mindset.

55:30Shannon Sharpe:Man, look here, them Jogles, they were so...

55:35Chad Johnson:Hey, but when you think about it, I ain't think OKC did a bad job defensively. I thought they played pretty good defensively as well. I mean, they only gave up 103 points. You know, but here...

55:45Shannon Sharpe:Well, if you realize I wanna play 31 minutes now, Joe, women went out with six minutes to go now. Women say, I have some more for y 'all ass, but I'm gonna save it. I don't feel like I really need to empty any more of these bullets, cause y 'all, you know.

56:00Chad Johnson:They can't, hell, the OKC can't get no buckets. They can't score enough points. I mean, think about this, bro. If game four, your bench outscores your starters, your bench win you that game. You can't expect them to duplicate that same type of performance. in game four. I'm sorry. You can't lean on that. I know when they made subs, you got guys coming in, especially McCain being aggressive. You got guys coming in trying to get to it, but it just seems so hard for OKC to get a bucket. They working extra hard for every point that they have to come by. For the Spurs, it's just like ball movement, ball movement, throw it up the wind and be done.

56:49Chad Johnson:Boom, three. You know what I mean? It's like they score so easily and fluently that it's so hard for OKC. And, yeah, they've been down a lot, meaning to start the game and they're able to fight back. But, bro, you can't keep digging yourself in these holes, man. It's going to be hard to get up out of there.

57:07Shannon Sharpe:Also, Joe, the thing is that what happens at the Spurs is that what they normally do when they get a big lead, they start turning it over. That's what they didn't do tonight. what they normally do and what they've done in some of the other games is turn it over and allow OKC to get back in the ballgame. Tonight, yeah, I mean, they had 12. You know, one game. I mean, think about it. They had 12 turnovers tonight. The first two games, Stephen Castle was averaging 10 a game.

57:37Chad Johnson:10, yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:41Shannon Sharpe:Tonight, what do you have tonight? One turnover. I can live with that. I can live with that. Yeah, Fox has, I think Fox, if I'm not mistaken, Fox has zero. Dylan Harper, two-turn. I can live with that. Yeah. Those, that is what I can live with. If we get a lead, make them make plays. Let's get a shot at the basket. Let's not let them get out in transition. Let's not get them run because, you know, they're going to start celebrating, feeling good about themselves. Let's try to make them feel as bad as they possibly can about themselves as long as we possibly can. You know, sometimes guys, you know, we can't tell her she look good cause then she gonna give us her ass to kiss.

58:29Shannon Sharpe:Hey, nah, nah, how I look, all right. Doing damn well she's 15. All right, I can tell you. Soon as I tell you, start looking good. How she look? All right.

58:48Shannon Sharpe:Hey, real talk though, you gotta be careful giving somebody attention because guess what? The moment you give someone attention and you don't continue to give them that attention, what would they do, guys? They'll seek it elsewhere.

59:00Chad Johnson:We'll find it somewhere. Yeah, yeah, we'll find it somewhere.

59:06Shannon Sharpe:Huh?

59:09Chad Johnson:True statement, boy. True statement.

59:14Shannon Sharpe:Once you started. Mama, you like that. She really is. But I did, it was like, man, I had to be like a pep club. Everything. Baby, you going to bed, damn. You got a mask on your face. What you mean how you look? You look like you got old pajamas with a mask going to bed.

59:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. You got a bonnet. Damn, what the hell? But okay, you look good. Yeah, yeah.

59:52Shannon Sharpe:And so the thing is, is that the way they play tonight, package that up. Package that mindset. You don't ever notice how some teams play defense no matter what? You look at the Ravens, and the Ravens for the last couple of years has kind of been an anomaly. But you look at for about 20 years, the Ravens played defense. The Steelers, since the 70s, were known for defense. some teams you just that's who they are yeah that's their identity that is who they are that is a mindset and guess what i go draft guys with that mindset be who you are all right we don't want you to change we don't need you to be no fire boy we got enough guys that's going to go out in the community boy this was this was uh joe what did you think about miss johnson getting on rookie Carter Bryant.

1:00:44Shannon Sharpe:Looked like he was in tears in his eyes, but women and council both went over to talk to him. We got the video? Oh, we got the video. Okay. We can't show that.

1:00:53Chad Johnson:Hey, that's part of being a young guy. You know, you got vets who gonna, like I said, gonna police you. Hey, we gonna do the job and the coaches ain't gonna have to do it. You know, we gonna police each other, keep each other in line. And it's also gonna make him a better player. It's gonna make them a better team because the respect the fact that it's going to be there. You know what I mean? I don't mind that. I don't mind that.

1:01:18Shannon Sharpe:I agree. I agree, Joe. But I think sometimes, you know, and I tweeted. I was like, yeah, take him out. And they're like, you need to get experience where they're up. No, bro. The last thing I want to do is to have him keep turning the ball over and have them go on the run. And they right back in the ballgame. Sit him down. You'll have an opportunity to talk to him after the game. I understand that you want to be aggressive and good thing but you have to understand you have to pick and choose when to bro you got a one on three you pick up a charge that's a turnover we playing extremely well now you commit a foul in the back court then you doing that what are you doing son listen Listen to me.

1:02:12Chad Johnson:It's a learning curve for these young cats, bro, you know, because it's not a lot of times that you get rookies. Like San Antonio got two rookies on a team. And what's his name? Harper. And what's the other kid? You just Brian. Carter Bryant. And when you plan on these type of teams, bro, you have to understand something. when your opportunities do come, yeah, we up big, but you can't be out there trying to exhaust you down all your options. We playing on national TV. I'm trying to give me some shine. Man, listen, you want to stay in the damn rotation, your ass better play the right way. You know what I mean?

1:02:53Chad Johnson:Because it's a pecking order early, but you have to earn your stripes. You have to earn coaches' trust. You have to earn that.

1:03:02Shannon Sharpe:And your teammates' trust. There you go.

1:03:08Shannon Sharpe:Imagine you did that, you made them plays like that, and you're on Jordan's team. Imagine you made those plays like that, and you're on Kobe's team. Yeah. Coach A, before they do, you even get to the coach.

1:03:24Shannon Sharpe:Fair. Fair. And that's the thing. Yeah, look, everybody, we want you to play and play hard, but we also want you to play smart. Yeah. Understand the situation of the game, where we are, the momentum of the game. Pull it back out. There'll be an opportunity for you to get you an easy one.

1:03:46Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:03:47Shannon Sharpe:This wasn't the time. I commend you for doing that. Hey, look at me, son.

1:03:54Chad Johnson:Yeah. Like they say, if I don't say nothing to you, it's a damn problem. Don't worry about it.

1:04:01Shannon Sharpe:It won't be long. You know what I mean?

1:04:03Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:04:04Shannon Sharpe:when they stop talking to your old show it won't be long yeah that's the worst thing as an athlete Joe obviously you know when a coach is always on you he's on you for a reason he's on you for a reason when he stop talking to you when he stop correcting you that's when you need to be worried when he stop correcting you know what that mean somebody else about to start talking to you

1:04:30Chad Johnson:yeah I'm tired of your ass

1:04:31Shannon Sharpe:that's what that means Brian Billy he said son don't cut yourself let me do that don't cut yourself make my job hard plays like that you make my job real easy I don't know how hard it is to do the job you understand when you assume that role that you know that's a part of your job they always try to make you feel man that's the worst part my job i can't tell you've been coaching you've been coaching for 10 years do you know how many players you've actually cut in 10 years at least at the bare minimum 200 that's at the minimum that's just that's just training camp going into the season that's not the count regular season that's not counting off yeah I would hate I would hate to be a coach Joe You know To be in that position Where I have to tell a player Even though it's his childhood dream You're not good enough To play for us Without Without saying it You soften the blow It's all Anything you say Anytime you say anything To anyone And it's in a In a negative way It's all about delivery And how you say things Hey

1:05:49Chad Johnson:I think if I was a coach I wouldn't have a problem Telling guys that Because that shit Would cost you your job Ocho Damn, Joe. I'm just keeping it real. I'm saying if I was a coach, I wouldn't have a problem in policing players because you got to understand, bro, if you're not policing these guys, holding them accountable, they're going to run over you as a coach, man. I'm telling you, I've seen it time and time again, bro. Absolutely. You have to be somebody that they totally respect, bro. Yes, sir.

1:06:18Shannon Sharpe:They get mad at me because I tweet it. I tell all the time, Ocho, dumb players get you cut. Yeah. yeah oh hell hey shit you got a bad team your players get you fired too we had a guy Richard Smith told a story he said son that effort right there I'll get you cut and me fired that's a lose lose he right I don't know where Rich at but I love Rich because he was brutally honest. And that's what I'll, just be honest with me. If I'm doing good, say I'm doing good. If I'm doing bad, say I'm doing bad. If you see an area I can improve in, tell him I can improve in this area. Don't bulljot.

1:07:04Chad Johnson:Hey, that's why I got so much respect for Coach Nolan Richardson when I played at the University of Arkansas in college. Okay, Ocho, he's super. Y 'all think, Chad, y 'all I think old school, the damn Nolan Richardson boy. Hey, Ocho. Yeah. Tough cookie, bro. He rarely complimented us, rarely. I'm talking about rarely, bro. He rarely complimented us, and boy, hey, we worked, homie. We worked. I'm talking about he held everybody accountable from me on down. He didn't give a damn.

1:07:40Shannon Sharpe:That's them old school guys. Barty, them boys did good. What the hell they supposed to do? Bad? Yeah. That's how he thought, though, y 'all. I mean, what? No, hey. They did something. That's what he's like. That's what they're supposed to do. He's like, I'm not giving no compliments for something you're supposed to do. Now, if you did something out of the ordinary or the boys went to school, the boys say, yes, sir, no, sir. Yes, ma 'am. No, ma 'am. They open the door. Okay, that's what they're supposed to do. That's my grandma. What? Okay, I'll tell you what. Wait. You'd have had great looking like me, waiting on him to get you a compliment.

1:08:22Shannon Sharpe:I told you. Told me and my brother anything is better than nothing. But you two fellas are close to nothing.

1:08:29Chad Johnson:Hey. Boy. Hey. But you gotta respect them old school cats. It's they way or the highway, bro. Like you're gonna get with the program. Yeah. Yeah.

1:08:45Shannon Sharpe:He said, get good or get gone. Boy, look at my odds, because you know my odds never grown. But you know, you get grown, what you want to do? You want to go out? Hey, I'm grown now. I want to go out. Man, Papa said, hey, don't grumble and stay. He said, grumble and leave. He said, don't tell me where the SOBI is in my own house. Tell me where the SOBI is in your house.

1:09:06Chad Johnson:Right, right, right.

1:09:08Shannon Sharpe:Guess what? He got up out of there. You're not finna come and buy a house like that there. Oh no!

1:09:18Shannon Sharpe:And they know it. It's different. It was back then, you know, you had to ask, could you take somebody's daughter out? And they're just, oh daddy, I'm going. No sir! You came there, you sat down on the couch. Mr. Barney, I was wondering if I could take you, if I could take your daughter out. Hey, what time you plan on having a home? Boom.

1:09:41Shannon Sharpe:That's what it was. Oh, it wasn't, oh, hey, mom, dad, I'm going out. No, who? He gonna come in there and sit down and ask Barney Porter, could he, boy, look here. Okay, okay. That caused a lot of conflicts in the Porter house at Route 4, Box 385. That man didn't play that.

1:10:04Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hell no. I could have actually. It's different bro. Yeah he ain't give a damn you somebody else

1:10:10Shannon Sharpe:kid boy took here okay. That man those guys back then they demanded respect. You understood it from the jump. All that loud talking and yelling and no no no. So it was yes sir Mr. Barney, Miss Mary. Yes sir, no sir, yes ma 'am. hey have that girl home at 12 yes sir Mr. Barney okay bring in that 12 or 5 if you want to

1:10:44Chad Johnson:hey hey

1:10:45Shannon Sharpe:you gonna see it again huh I can honestly say Ocho I've never seen anybody my grandfather died when I was 8 I can only remember from the time I was about four and a half, maybe five, until he passed. Yeah. I've never seen a man disrespect my grandfather. And definitely not nobody that we were married to. No, sir. No, sir. Yeah. Grown me. Look here. He did not play that. He did not tolerate disrespect. He did not talk that Kiki kid. He was the first person I ever heard say Kiki kid. That man didn't play. But you know what? I wish I would get my brother on here, but he'd be asleep. He could tell you.

1:11:32Shannon Sharpe:I forgot this story. He say, man, you remember when Papa told us how to cut the grass? I said, yeah. I said, but Spanky, all he did was did a strip down and a strip back up. So the first time me and Spanky cut the grass, I was small. I couldn't have been no more than five. Spanky cut one side and the back, I had the smallest side. He get home, he get out the car. He walk out there and look at it. Hey, you two fellas come out here.

1:12:09Shannon Sharpe:We come out there, I thought he go, hey, did a good job or something. What is this? Say we cut the grass. You know what he told us?

1:12:20Chad Johnson:What was that?

1:12:21Shannon Sharpe:Is that how I showed you how to cut it?

1:12:28Shannon Sharpe:he want you to cut down and the wheel overlap the outside wheel where you went down. That's how he you did it like he said do it. Don't do it. I didn't tell y 'all how to do it like that.

1:12:43Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:12:47Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I need to take you home with some people that's a little bit older than me.

1:12:57Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't that other stuff. He ain't got mad cause we didn't cut the grass like he told us how to cut it, like he showed us. Cut his grass. Man, you make it like it's, now I'm looking back, bro, that ain't on Augusta National. That's not Pebble Beach. He got weeds and everything, growing the dog fiddles and everything, bro. Come on now.

1:13:22Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, you know the older folks, they don't play by their yard now. They don't play by their yard.

1:13:29Shannon Sharpe:Boy, I could imagine. We talked about that guy walking on the yard. Boy, I sure wish that was Martin Porter's yard you walked in. I bet you wouldn't have did that. First of all, you would have never walked in the yard.

1:13:39Chad Johnson:They don't play by their yard. No, sir. That would have never happened.

1:13:42Shannon Sharpe:Joe, what do you think about the Spurs culture? Seemingly women missed Johnson off to pick it up where Timmy and Pop left off. Culture is only good as the player. Yeah, man. Yeah, I mean, they headed in the right direction.

1:13:58Chad Johnson:I think they have a great players coach who the players respect. First and foremost, that's probably number one for me. Yes. When you got your players who respect the coach, because that'll take you a long way. Absolutely, Joe. Yeah, and now you got, you know, your players policing one another. That's another recipe for, you know, championship pedigree. You know, I've seen it, bro. I know what it looked like. And the Spurs have a bright future. I mean, hell, are they the youngest team still? They still the youngest team to lead? 23.7. And to be playing this type of basketball, bro, in the Western Conference Finals against an elite OKC team, obviously, you know, missing one of their all-stars.

1:14:43Chad Johnson:But, hey, man, they making it very interesting, fellas.

1:14:48Shannon Sharpe:They are. Like I said, but it's a culture. It's a culture, but you better have great players. How did that culture look when Kawhi left, when Timmy Duncan retired? There ain't no Manu and Tony Parker. How did Spurs' culture look? When Tom Brady left, how did Patriots' culture look? You could say all the culture, all that, all the stuff, but you better have players that can play.

1:15:19Chad Johnson:Absolutely. got to

1:15:24Shannon Sharpe:Fox told the excuse me Fox told the broadcast after the game we lost game three but that was the first time Park walked into the locker room he was like nah that's BS that's not how we play basketball and obviously he had some choice words for us that was the first time all season that he came into the locker room right after a game and told us how he felt

1:15:46Chad Johnson:he can see it you let them other guys get off. You let their bench play like that. We got to take their bench out of the game. Now, we making live with Shea getting 30, 25, but the rest of them guys, their ass ain't eating tonight. They starving. We starving the hell. Yeah.

1:16:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But do you understand the level of respect that that man has to have in the condition that he's in to still be able to walk into that room? the coach allow him to address the team. You can see sometimes, coach, like this is my team. You don't need to address the team. But Pop is so beloved. He's so respected. He demands such respect. He walked in there. Said, man, y 'all want some bulljive.

1:16:31Chad Johnson:Yeah. Man, the one thing you know, you know them players going to respect that, bro. They going to respect that.

1:16:38Shannon Sharpe:Five-time champion.

1:16:40Chad Johnson:Yeah. Come on, man.

1:16:41Shannon Sharpe:Robinson, Coach Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi. Five of the players that he coached going to the Hall. Hall of Fame. The resume speaks for itself. Exactly. Yeah.

1:16:54Chad Johnson:And you got all these former guys who still live in San Antonio. They at the practice facility probably every day, you know, trying to coach up these young dudes, you know, give them some do's and don'ts. You know, teach them how to be a professional. So, they got, you're right. The culture is everything, bro.

1:17:12Shannon Sharpe:And I love the fact that, like you said, you know, A. Wimby, boy, you got two of the greatest bigs to ever play the game in Robinson and Duncan right there. You can bounce anything off them. But what I love the most, he ain't afraid to go outside. Let me talk to Kareem about that footwork because Kareem had better footwork than both of you guys. You guys were outstanding. But I want to learn how to play with using footwork and playing outside. Man, sky's the limit for this kid.

1:17:41Chad Johnson:It is, bro.

1:17:42Shannon Sharpe:I love, look, and a lot of times, you know, a lot of times, Joe and Ocho, you know, hand-picked successors, they don't do too well. They got the right guy with Mitch Johnson.

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