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18:47Shannon Sharpe:Everything else I'm going to do, you won't know nothing about it. You'll see it. You will see it again. Man, where you learn that at? Don't worry about it.

18:56Shannon Sharpe:But just to say, I was disappointed in Roley. I definitely thought he would fight better than what he fought, what he showed tonight. I think he's a better fighter, Ocho and Joe. This fight withstanding, I think Roley is better than what he showed tonight. I don't know what transpired. Maybe it did zap him to go down to 147. And he said, look, he's looking, it's getting harder for him to make 47. Maybe he needs to stop it. But he ain't seeing boots fight like that. Oh no, sir. At 54. Wait, who wanna fight boots? He go up to 54, he ain't got no damn choice. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Now you, come on.

19:34Shannon Sharpe:He said, hold on. He said something about fighting the fedora kid when we had him on there. Yeah.

19:39Joe Johnson:He don't want to see him. He'll hear. No, he don't want that. Hey, Fundora. Fundora throws volume punches. A lot of punches around. No disrespect to Rowley, but he would get Rowley up out of there. Yeah, he'd be swole looking like Keith Thurman.

19:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, is that that check hook that he would be looking to throw the counter, Fundora, he's going to be hitting him in the shoulder. He'd keep that in his back pocket. Because he would literally have to throw that check hook up here. I was just disappointed. I thought we would see better from Rowley, but unfortunately we didn't see it tonight. Give Timo his credit. Tiofimo his credit. Tiofimo came with a game plan. He stuck to his game plan. He looked good in doing his game. He looked – I'm not saying – considering how he looked, how Shakur made him look. Yeah. And this he's like – so he's somewhere in between.

20:34Shannon Sharpe:I don't think he's as bad as what Shakur made him look. I don't think he's as good as Roley made him look. He's somewhere in between there, guys. That's what I think. Yeah, I think you got to get to a female with his credit because he probably learned something from fighting Shakur, you know, Ocho, because he came into this fight, bro. He looked sharp. He looked like the better fighter from round one. Yeah. Yeah. His game plan was to look. I'm not putting a whole bunch of punches together. I'm going to throw – if you think about it, guys, he threw one or two punches. That was it. Yeah.

21:05Joe Johnson:Yeah. You got to be careful too, huh? the more punches you throw, you leave yourself susceptible for the counter. And that's exactly what Roley was trying to do. He was worried about countering the night. So there was no need for Teo to throw volume punches.

21:18Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, that's all Roley was doing, countering, throwing that check hook. He was waiting for him to throw something out there. He come with that check hook. Hell, if he went for the check hook, he probably wouldn't even land in that. For real. Sometimes, oh, Joe, you go fishing. I know you ain't a fisher, but, Joe, you know this. Sometimes when you go fishing and they ain't biting one type of bait, you got to change up the bait. I can't just keep throwing that well where maybe this bait's still and throw some more bait out there. Well, maybe, nah, hell nah. I'm going to try jumping jacks. I'm going to try red wigglers.

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25:28Shannon Sharpe:Arizona Cardinals 34-13. Joe Milton III was surgical in the first half. 9-13, 179 yards, two pass TDs, no interceptions, one rush touchdown. Lost a 53-yard touchdown pass to Jonathan Mingo. Another deep pass by Camden Brown, who's having an unbelievable camp this year. Ocho. Yeah. I feel like Joe Milton is going to find himself in a situation like old boy down in Miami. Malik Willis. Malik Willis. I swear I thought that same thing. He could be a starter, Ocho. Ain't no way in hell you're going to tell me that 32 quarterbacks better than this man.

26:05Joe Johnson:But I got a question for you too, Unk. He has a chance to be a starter, but where would he be a starter at? Don't worry about it. I tell you the middle of the season. Yeah.

26:16Shannon Sharpe:I tell you the middle of the season. I was thinking that same thing I swear I was Joe Milnehill the way he out here playing Willing and Dillon It's going to be hard to keep that boy as a backup He arm talented now

26:32Joe Johnson:Hold on You jog him in memory now I'm thinking about the teams That actually need a quarterback What teams actually need a quarterback And are looking for a starter Where they're starting quarterback number one Is on ice

26:46Shannon Sharpe:The Jets Well, remember, Ocho, remember we said that last year. Who needs a quarterback? When we talked about Malik Willis, and you said, well, who needs a quarterback? I said, well, Miami going to be in the market for a quarterback. Somebody else going to be in the market for a quarterback. You watch.

27:04Joe Johnson:Okay, okay, okay.

27:06Shannon Sharpe:Keep an eye on that Cleveland situation. How about that one? Keep an eye on that Cleveland situation. Nah. We're going to talk about Cleveland in a minute. What did you like about – let's go to Joe. This is Joe's team. Joe, what you like about what you saw from Joe Milton III? Man, I like how sharp he was tonight running that Cowboys offense. Okay, Ocho, two touchdown passes, one rushing. He was unbelievable. And I like the Malik Davis kid, the running back back there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, that first drive, they were awesome on that first drive. Malik Davis had some great runs. He caught that touchdown right there probably like at what was like the 5 or the 7 to kind of run it in.

27:46Shannon Sharpe:Our young guys look great, bro. They came out and competed. You look at the depth. Everybody looks strong. Milton in the defense. I mean, think about the roster cuts by the gear that come up, bro. I thought Dallas young core, them young guys. I'm telling you, offense and defense, they stepped up. They played big. It was fun to watch. Fun to watch. Yeah. You know, he got arm talent, man. He can flat out throw the ball. And he can use them legs too, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's very athletic. But I was just impressed. We watched him. Oh, remember he was in New England. New England did him a solid. Said, man, look, you're not going to play here with Drake.

28:28Shannon Sharpe:May, let's go ahead and get you somewhere. He goes to Dallas. They traded him to Dallas. He's going to play himself into a starting job somewhere. I think people have seen enough. You look at the Brown situation. I don't think they'll settle on their quarterback. Even whoever wins the job, I don't think they'll settle. Pittsburgh, Aaron Rodgers says, I'm only playing one more year. Are they going to be in position? Are they going to lose enough games that they're going to be high enough to draft a quarterback early? He has to play there. The Jets, are they going to lose enough games to be able to get a quarterback?

28:55Shannon Sharpe:So it's going to be very interesting to see. I think there are some places, some landing spots for him that he can find a good home.

29:03Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah. I like that. I like that. I don't like the Jets situation because you can go through a merry-go-round of quarterbacks. Nothing's going to change if the change starts at top. I like the Pittsburgh idea for Drew Aller. He's been nice during the preseason. They might have the answer in their quarterback of the future in him. Will Harrod has to step it up or he's going to be out the door. But I'm just looking at the landscape of it. Oh, oh. Now you got my attention.

29:36Shannon Sharpe:Now you've got my attention. Big strong arm quarterback with those weapons. You've got B. John Robinson. You've got Drake London. You've got Kyle Pitts. You've got guys that can make plays for you. Hey, with that dual threat and you put him with them Falcons, come on, man, what are we talking about? Them boys are going to be serious, boy. Hey, Joe Milne, if I'm an NFL team and I'm looking for a quarterback, well, I think I need a reliable backup. Boy, that boy just played himself into something. The way he played in this preseason, Unk and Ocho these first two games, hey, that man look ready, bro.

30:13Shannon Sharpe:He does.

30:13Joe Johnson:Yeah, but also, let's remember, Joe, and this is no disrespect to your Cowboys, Unk, now we got to remember these are the twos and the threes now. These are the twos and the three. Now, we talk about being a starter. Everything is a little bit faster, much faster than what you actually see.

30:29Shannon Sharpe:He's going against the twos and the threes, and he's playing with twos and threes, which will be fine in Cleveland. because that's what they got. And why are you so hell-bent on sending him to Cleveland, though? I'm just saying because we're going to talk about Cleveland in a second. So let's just hold off on the Cleveland. But the Dallas situation with Joe Milton, I think Camden Brown, Camden Brown got him. He made the roster. He made the roster. He played at Georgia Southern. He played at Georgia Southern? Wait, cutting up like that? hey what is he about six three six four six two six two yeah he's a big kid

31:08Joe Johnson:hey man he getting it done out there boy yeah man hey look i know it's pre-season but man when you're

31:16Shannon Sharpe:a young player in a professional league and you get a chance to go out there and show and and put your talents on display and let them know that you deserve a spot a rotation hey man all i want to do is see, and I get it, like Gojo said, this is the preseason, but all I do is consistently see him making plays. Hello. That's the thing. I don't want you, just don't flash one time. Every time I cut the tape on, let me see something. There you go. Let me see something else. Let me see something else. You give me no choice. Yes. Now, the offensive coordinator, not a head coach, asking the wide receiver coach, what do you think about Brown?

31:54Shannon Sharpe:You think, can we give him, can we put some more on his plate? because what I the thing is all I want you to do is eat what I put on your plate to begin with I'll give you more once you eat that what I can't do is put it on your plate you waste it and then all of a sudden I put even more on your plate well you waste what I already put on your plate yeah eat that yeah then I give you a little bit more yeah

32:16Joe Johnson:and you know as players like that that come in and playing the way they're playing right now sometimes it gets a little iffy especially come down to a numbers game depending on what they have you audition every time you step on that field in the precinct. If you're a rookie, you're auditioning. If you don't make the 53 there and they don't bring you back for the practice squad with that 15, you're still auditioning for another team.

32:37Shannon Sharpe:Because Dallas Cowboys, they're not dumb enough to cut him. They cut him. They know somebody going to pick him up. Based on what he's done thus far, he gone, Ocho and Joe. Somebody going to put him on the active roster. Ain't nobody signing him. No one is going to sign him and put him on the practice squad. They're going to put him on an active roster. So the Cowboys, he's going to make the roster. I'm saying, but hold on, I thought Joe Milton got a little contract to be a backup. I thought he had a nice contract. He did. But somebody, they'll trade him. Hey, because it's going to be hard for him to be that talent.

33:08Shannon Sharpe:Now, the thing is, and hopefully knock on wood, but Dak does have an injury history. He does. I know you don't like to hear that, Joe, but he does. I got you. I'm with you when you're right. Hey.

33:22Joe Johnson:Hey, Uncle, he was clean all that. No, he hurt his hamstring, remember? Yeah. Actually, he did pull his hamstring. That's right. That's right. That's right. He did pull his hamstring. He missed a lot of time.

33:33Shannon Sharpe:Soft tissue. Yeah. Hey, we got some bright spots, though, boy. Oh, yeah. With this young talent. Obviously, CD and Pitt going to be there. They like Flannoy. I think now, I think Brown, the way Brown has played, he's played himself into that fourth receiver. Yeah.

33:48Joe Johnson:Wait, hold on, hold on. Fourth. Flannoy. Flannoy.

33:52Shannon Sharpe:You know, they got Flannoy. They got Turbin. Turbin. Yeah.

33:55Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, yeah. I forgot about, yeah, turn fast too.

33:58Shannon Sharpe:They play him in the slot. I think the thing is, plus, the question is, and I don't see a problem with this, I think Brown be willing to play special teams because the more, he got to be able to play special teams. Because when you're the fifth receiver, you just can't be the fifth receiver just coming in on your own third down. You got to provide value somewhere else. So you got to be on punt, punt return, kick, kick return. You got to do something in the special teams area in order to show your worth. because the fifth receiver just can't be the fifth receiver. The fifth corner just can't be the fifth corner.

34:30Shannon Sharpe:The fifth linebacker just can't be the fifth linebacker. You've got your special teams. Those are your guys, your special teams guys are made up of your third, your fourth, your fifth guys at the other depth, the linebackers, the tight ends, the DBs, the wide receivers. Those are your special teams. Your third offensive lineman, your fourth offensive lineman, your fourth defensive lineman, that's your special teams right there. But I love the way Camden Brown has played thus far when he's got an opportunity. He's made those plays. Joe Melton looked good tonight. Mingo, he finally showed a fashion.

35:08Shannon Sharpe:A big-time bomb, two catches, 62 yards on a touchdown, 53 yards long. The Cowboys did what they were supposed to do. When the backups come in, we're playing backups. Let's look better than their backup. We ain't got to look like backups. Let's make it look like we're starters. Make them look like backers. So I was impressed with what I saw from the Cowboys, and they went going away 34 to 13. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice, like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver, and everything came together fast.

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39:00Shannon Sharpe:I want to talk about this game, so here we go. The Bills beat the Browns 31-7. Kevin Shadour had a good showing in his preseason start. 9 of 11, 74 yards in the first half and a touchdown. He threw a 8-yard touchdown pass to cap a 65-yard scoring drive on his opening possession. But through an interception, I don't know if he got tipped. It might have gotten tipped. It was because he came out a little behind the guy. A little behind. A little behind.

39:21Joe Johnson:Just a tad bit that allowed the defender to get his hand on him.

39:25Shannon Sharpe:Deshaun Watson struggling. He had the entire second half. 5 of 12, 35 yards on interception. after the game, Deshaun Watson addressed being booed by the Browns crowd. Let's take a listen to what Deshaun had to say.

39:41Shannon Sharpe:Man, I didn't have no reaction. I think the biggest thing is I think you guys know too,

39:49Joe Johnson:and I think the whole world knows it has nothing to do about the performance. It's a little bit personal than that. So I think that's a disrespectful thing. So yeah, I mean, I'm gonna keep whatever I feel with me and my family internally on how I feel about that. And yeah, just move on.

40:07Shannon Sharpe:But don't you think, Deshaun, that winning and playing better would eliminate some of that booing?

40:16Joe Johnson:Last time I played on this field, I tore my Achilles. And that same fan base, they cheered when I got hurt. so does that does that have to do with what does that have to do with anything about performance when a person get hurt especially for your own city and they cheer

40:37Shannon Sharpe:does that make you regret coming here no I don't regret anything in my life you know I think the Lord put me through situations for a reason so I don't regret anything at all but you know I had different thoughts on how it was going to be, but it is what it is. Sometimes the tables turn, and I'm patient enough because I'm a child of God to wait for that time to change. I'm not tripping on it. I'm not tripping on it. Orjo? You want to go or you want me to go?

41:12Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to just say, the Brown fans in general, they haven't forgot the incidents. the incidents that happened while you were at Houston they haven't forgot that, that's for one that left a bad taste in their mouth you come here, you get guaranteed money you get hurt, not once but you get hurt twice, so therefore they understand that you haven't been able to give us anything on the field if you got hurt, not once, but you got hurt twice therefore, they're going to feel that way, what you can do as a player there's one thing, you want fans to stop booing there's one thing that cures that one thing performance, huh?

41:49Joe Johnson:Yeah. Playing better and winning. Playing better and winning. Boy, you hit a loudest cheers you never heard before. If they get something they haven't gotten in a very long time, consistent play at the quarterback position and Ws at the end of games. That's all they care about. Those bulls will turn into cheers, and they will be happy. They don't care about nothing else. Are you going to help our team win? Man, they forget all about that stuff that happened on the outside. All that personal stuff. Yes, it is personal right now. That's why they're booing. They're booing because of their personal stuff because that's all they have to rely on right now because you're not doing nothing on the field.

42:27Joe Johnson:That's it. That's all it comes down to. Winning cures everything. Basketball, football, in life, in the corporate world, it doesn't matter what it is.

42:34Shannon Sharpe:Man, Ocho smoking too many damn cigars. Them folk want to see shit do it. They ain't trying to hear that. I think what Deshaun Watson is dealing with mentally, emotionally, Uncle Ocho, I think is really messing with him. You know, you hear him talk after the game, and the way he says that the fans, it's very personal. It's more than football. I don't know mentally if he can. That's why I tell you, I think Shadour going to win the job. I think they're going to end up releasing Deshaun. You got to let him go, man. They booing the man. He coming to the game. He at home, bro. They booted him last year.

43:19Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you got to move on. I think if I'm the Browns, I'm going to put it in Shadour's hands, make a break, see what he got for the season. But to come out and say, okay, we're going to start Deshaun for the first three, four games, hell, man, what are we doing? Nah. Nah. Starting the first three or four games, you go 0-4, then you bring in Shadour. Your season's already over. Yeah. What's the likelihood of you winning nine of your next 12 games? You got to get it. It's hard when you get off to a slow start because wins and losses, it's easy to go on a losing streak. It's easy to go on a winning streak.

43:59Shannon Sharpe:And normally when you go on one, you stay on that one. And when you go on the other, you stay on that one too. I think the thing, you know, and Deshaun said, you know, when I tore my Achilles, they cheered. But you hadn't given, I mean, yeah, they cheered. where you hadn't given them anything to cheer with your play prior to that. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Ocho, you said winning cures a lot. It is a great deodorant, winning is. But there's still an underlying stench. There's an underbelly that some, no matter what you do, is not going to forgive you for that. And you have to be okay with that. Yeah.

44:34Shannon Sharpe:You've got to be okay with that. The mere fact that you say, well, I don't want to tell you what I'm thinking. I'm keeping that between me and my family. we already know what you think. Because if it was something good, what would you share? What we like to do, Ocho, we like to share good news, don't we? We like to share positivity. That's what we do. Absolutely. I know Deshaun a little bit, so I take that out of the equation, but I also understand the human element on the other side of it. So take the relationship I have with Deshaun, set that to the side. Now look at it from a purest fans point of view.

45:12Shannon Sharpe:You come to my team, you come to our city, my team, given the situation, what had happened. Okay, whatever that case, whatever that is. Now, you losing. We ain't win no games. You came here to win. We're not winning. So what you want me to do? Now, I don't agree. I don't agree with that cheering that somebody get hurt. I don't think you should cheer if the opposing player gets hurt. That's classless. That's Bush League. I don't care what the fan base is. You don't cheer somebody else's misfortune. You don't do that. That's low. I don't care if that's your staunchest rival. Raiders, Kansas City, I would have been very disappointed if the Bronco country had cheered for someone to get hurt from the opposing team.

46:06Shannon Sharpe:You don't do that. I got no problem if they boo it because they're booing for a reason. Yeah, because I've heard him cheer so many times, but it's normally we've given them something to cheer about. And if we don't give them something to cheer about and they played that they paid their hard earned money. Yeah, let us have it. Maybe that'll give us the kick in the ass that we need.

46:28Joe Johnson:Hey, you just answered it on. Give them something to cheer about. You just answered it. Booing. Hey, Uncle Joe, booing has always been a part of the game. Yes. Cheering has always been a part of the game. Sometimes they boo you. Sometimes they cheer you. As a player, especially an NFL player, that shouldn't bother you any way, shape, or form, even if it's from your own team. Because there were times in our stadium, in Cincinnati, early in my career, year two, three, and four, yeah, they booed us. Not booing me directly, but as a group collectively, yes, they booed. I play deserved it. You're still a part of the team.

47:05Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. I play warranted that buoy. And I'll give you one more piece of advice, Ocho. Deshaun, have your earrings already in your ear before you go up there. That's a bad look.

47:19Shannon Sharpe:Be already made up. You putting those big old earrings in your ear, Ocho? You know it, Joe. You know it. That's a bad look. You don't want to give them any more ammunition. They've already got a lot of bullets to fire at you. The last thing I want to do is have them any more ammunition.

47:40You could have took a few extra seconds to take care of that in the locker room.

47:45Shannon Sharpe:Come, stand before the podium. I'm just trying to give you some advice.

47:53Shannon Sharpe:Don't give them any ammunition. They're looking for it. And you handed it to them. If I'm thinking it, who else you thinking it, Joe? Who else you think of the Locho? People in the organization, yeah. The media. I'm surprised. They'll probably write something tomorrow. We'll see what they have to say.

48:16Joe Johnson:Yeah, somebody's going to say something. Somebody's going to say something. They are. And you know what I think? Also, the Cleveland media, they're enjoying this. They're really enjoying, I don't want to call it a circus. They're enjoying the circus. They're enjoying it because it gives everyone something right. Finally. Whether negative or positive, the quarterback battle is awesome. These are one of the best times in Cleveland Browns football right now because there's always something to talk about every single day. Every single day. And when you think about it, to kind of move over to Shador,

48:52Shannon Sharpe:man, them first damn eight passes, Uncle Ocho, that boy was spinning that thing, man. Outside that little interception he threw that was kind of behind him a little bit. Hell, I think if he the scorer right there, Uncle Ocho, the Browns, we didn't know who the starter was right now. Yeah. If he just scored right there, if he wanted to do that damn pick and they just scored, man, please, we know who the starter would be right now today. Did the ball get tipped at the line? Because I was waiting for him to go. This is the one thing I hate about preseason. Because you're only going to be able to see the game that they want you to see.

49:24Shannon Sharpe:I wanted to see because I knew we were going to talk about this game. That's the game I wanted to see. Yeah, no. I think when he threw it behind him a little bit, The dude who he was throwing it to, he touched it, and it popped up. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But outside of that, hey, man, he got stuff you can't teach, Uncle Ocho, that poison patient's in the pocket, you know, with guys all around you, and they don't bother you. You can stand in there, and initially things may not be open, and you have to wait an extra half a second for him to open. Hey, man, that young man got it, bro. He got it, bro. He nice.

50:02He nice.

50:02Shannon Sharpe:And, hell, he ran it, I think, 12 times. Hell, how many yards he had on the ground? He was willing. He was getting up out of that, too. Who that? Shadour. He ran it like 10 or 12 times. Huh? He had one carry for two yards. He ran the boot. Yeah, they played the boot. That's Raheem Sanders. That's the other one. That's a cousin. Oh, I must have looked at the wrong. That's a cousin. Let me stop. No. I thought he played well. I mean, that's what you want to do. You have an opening drive, Ocho, and you take your team right down there and you put them in the end zone, man, you know that crowd was going crazy.

50:36Shannon Sharpe:That crowd was going eight-ish.

50:39Joe Johnson:Yeah.

50:40Shannon Sharpe:And he couldn't script a better day minus the interception. I'm with you, Joe. He gets this. Ain't no doubt about it. What? That's what we're talking about. Yeah. Because he ain't dinking and dorking. Okay. Oh, Joe, he getting that ball down the field. Yeah.

50:56Joe Johnson:You know what? He's always been that kind of passer. Yeah, he was.

50:58Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

50:59Joe Johnson:He ain't with the – he's not with that dick in the dog. He's going to put that – he's going to stress the field now.

51:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

51:05Joe Johnson:He's going to stress the field.

51:06Shannon Sharpe:I just – the ball – and when I look at Deshaun, the ball is just a pop. The ball don't jump out of his hand like it used to. I think the injury, I think the shoulder injury, I think the Achilles, I think he re-injured the Achilles. I think that – and just the mental toll that the last several years has taken on him. That's a lot. That is a lot. People always, oh, they ain't nothing. Just get on the field. No, bro, bro, it ain't that simple. It is not that simple. So I think there's a combination of things of what's at play here. His body is not the same. Clearly, his play is not the same. Sometimes, mentally, you get broken down more so than physically.

51:55Yep, yep.

51:56Shannon Sharpe:And if you're dealing with both of them, Mocho, what can I rely on? Nothing. Right. And emotionally, I just – Yes. I don't see it, bro. I don't see like the swag there. I don't see the confidence there. I don't see the presence, the patience in the pocket. I just don't see it, bro. And I like Deshaun. You know what I mean? But when I watch him play, man, I just don't – When you watch a guy play, whether it's football, basketball, whatever the sport may be, you want him to look comfortable. You want him to look confident, and I just don't see that, bro. Yeah. I think the thing is a lot of times when you're at the apex and you have a transgression, everything that goes through your mind is like, what do they think of me?

52:47Shannon Sharpe:Right. Tiger Woods was never the same after that happened. Hello. they're not the same situation so I don't want people to say well Sheldon Sharp said Tiger Woods no I'm not saying that I'm saying after he went through his transgressions he was not the same because the way people perceived him before and the way people look at him afterwards it's just life and you got to be strong mentally very very strong I don't know anybody in the chat have ever gone through something but when you go through something and you go through it publicly because a lot of times people in the chat Ocho we've gone through something publicly a lot of times people in the chat you've gone through something that's not, maybe it was public in your hometown, maybe it was public at work but when the whole world knows who you are and it plays out publicly you walk by everybody and think to yourself what do they think about me?

53:51Shannon Sharpe:Are they looking at me?

53:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm me. I ain't going nowhere. I'm not going to shrink. I'm not going to succumb. It's tough though. Anybody that has gone through something, especially publicly, and tell you, oh man, I wasn't worried at all, that's a lie. hey go ahead

54:20Joe Johnson:I'm one I'm one you know hey I went through that story I went through it everywhere here UK you know man Saturday now did my little 30 days what yeah did my little 30 days came out right back right back to Twitter I think it's you my apology might still be up there right there and then went right back to being just being just being me just being being osho i i i couldn't because there was nothing i could do it's over it doesn't happen yeah yeah it's over there was nothing i could do that could make people change how they feel about me after that happened they're not gonna do outside of apologizing to those that that matter family friends that individual as well let them know my sincerest apologies it'll never it'll never happen again boom and I got to live my life huh you got to I got to I can't be worried how other people feel about me I already had and already had that gene in me a little bit anyway I'm not caring how people feel for those that do love me everything I'm doing is for you anyway if you don't like me I really don't care anyway yeah because how you feel about me it doesn't change it's not gonna

55:31Shannon Sharpe:change anything it was it was great to have like so many people when you go out in public and they put the arm around you and talk about, we still love you. I needed that, boy.

55:42Joe Johnson:Boy, back then? Oh!

55:45Shannon Sharpe:I needed that. Every time when we would go out and go into these markets and I'm doing La Portier, and to hear people say, I don't even drink, I'm just here to support you. Mm. Mm. Man, that meant the world to me. Yeah. Because, boy, it was tough. Because I had never gone through anything like this publicly. I've always tried to handle whatever the case may be. I've tried to handle it in a professional manner. But this was one of those times that God says, nah, I want you to slow down. Right. I want you to take a look at yourself. You're doing too much. And you ain't got me in the picture. You see, you think you're doing all this, don't you?

56:27Shannon Sharpe:Just like I let you ride up the elevator, I can stop the elevator right here. Now, I'm only going to let it go down a couple of floors. And then I'm going to let it rise. Then I'm going to let it go back up. But I just want you to know, I'm him. I'm in charge. Hey, man.

56:49Shannon Sharpe:It's a lonely place. The loneliest place is alone in your own thoughts. I'm telling you now, people. I can see how it can get the best. If you're not strong, Ocho, Joe, If you not strong, strong, boy, that devil will get you. You'll break. Because he working. He working overtime. Yeah. Oh, hey, he's working overtime. He's working overtime. Huh? If you're not strong, Ocho, if you didn't come up and having gone through something, you'll break.

57:30Joe Johnson:Hey, I got a question, too. I'm not saying that, I mean, that's so tough. Because I would think for someone to be able to reach the level that we have when it comes to playing football and all the adversities and obstacles you have to overcome, you have to be strong to even play this game in general with all it comes with. So when you're having to deal with fans booing, and that's all a part of the game in general. So mentally you should be able to block that, especially when it comes to playing the game because this business is already grimy and dirty as it is and all the other elements that are under the umbrella when it comes to playing football like the boy that shouldn't even bother you that should be the least of your worries

58:16Shannon Sharpe:is that we were down here and so people talking about us but you got to realize the people that were talking about us was down there also it's when you go up and you fall off from such a high platform See, Ocho, if you're right here and you step off the curb, it doesn't hurt nearly as much as you falling off your house. Now imagine you on a 10-story building and you fall off. That's how high we were. Yes, sir.

58:49Shannon Sharpe:But the man said, look here, I'm gonna give you a soft place to land, but I just wanted you to know I'm still in control. And while you thought you were rising up these rings by yourself, I just had to show you. That one set of footprints, that was mine. They weren't yours. I was carrying your black ass. Come on, now.

59:11Joe Johnson:Come on, now.

59:12Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes we do get beside ourselves. I think that has a lot to do with it. I mean, even for Deshaun to go out there and to do what he's doing, I commend him. Because I know what it's like. Ocho, you know what it's like to have the world to look at you.

59:32Shannon Sharpe:Man. But to the football field today, I think Shadour helped himself. I think Deshaun hurt himself. That's just me. I have no contact. I don't know anyone in the Cleveland locker room. I don't know anybody in their front office. As a spectator, as a guy that's played this game and have a pretty good understanding and knowledge of this game, I definitely think Shadour helped himself. I think Deshaun hurt himself. That's just me. Hey, I'm with you. I'm with you just through the press conference alone. Not just his play, but, you know, the things you say in that press conference, Uncle Ocho, that's front news, bro.

1:00:15Shannon Sharpe:You know, and everybody ain't going to take it the same. You know what I mean? No. And he knows and feel like the fans ain't got his back, bro. that mental hurdle, that's hard to get over, bro. Yeah, it's hard. If you at home and you can't go out and play free and be loose and enjoy the game, high-fiving your teammates, man, I don't see none of that, bro. I don't see no excitement. Because, Joe, Ocho, what I say, you play for your teammates' respect, your coaches' trust, and the fans' appreciation. If they're not appreciating what I'm doing, what am I doing here? Go ahead, Ocho.

1:00:54Joe Johnson:you play for the fans appreciation you play for the fans respect obviously your teammates your coaches and your organization right you haven't given you haven't given them anything to appreciate you have you haven't they have nothing to cheer about as of as of as of late you have you have to be if they are booing i'm telling you oh i believe you coming well it is winning but i I'm a bangle the damn Browns fan don't even boo me, but that's my point Oh Joe.

1:01:27Shannon Sharpe:I'm afraid now Deshaun could win 15 games Not there sometimes you just need to know you know Joe Well, I put it upset 15 you and I both know they not winning 15 game Three years

1:01:47Joe Johnson:you you have to understand huh they haven't had what it's been i mean what 2021 i think yeah last time they went to play maybe a couple years ago they just they just yeah they just want to win they just want to feel what it's like to win again no matter who you think so let me ask your question we are we are cleveland brown fans we want someone who's going to do you believe

1:02:10Shannon Sharpe:that someone do you believe they want that someone to be deshaun watson no no they probably that's That's my point. That's what Joe and I tried to make. No, no, no, because they've made it personal. Yeah, well, it's always been personal. He needed to get up to once he got there, he needed to be able to play right away because the longer he stood on the sideline, the more the resentment built up. They're like, we give you all this money and you can't even help us right now. Yeah, yeah. So the resentment grew. And guess what, Ocho? He come back in those five games and he doesn't look good he starts the season and he gets hurt so they like well hold on and then guess what he comes back again and he gets hurt again again yeah so they frustrated man you know what they want you know the people y 'all know what the people want why y 'all acting like that y 'all scared to say it hey yeah i know i know what they want i know what they want uncle joe

1:03:11Joe Johnson:I know what they want over there you hear me yeah yeah I know

1:03:18Shannon Sharpe:and I think like I've been telling y 'all y 'all say no it ain't gonna happen I got them they gonna cut Deshaun bro before week one but see I was talking about something else because if that was the case you didn't make so what so you mean to tell me that just because of the last three weeks you cut him now You should have cut your losses earlier. They had to give him an opportunity. They had to give him an opportunity. Yeah, they did. We talk about all the money that they got tied up in Deshaun Hill. The least thing they can do is give him an opportunity to compete and fight for the spot here.

1:03:55Shannon Sharpe:That's the least. Can't get it back. It's just like a woman. You break up with a woman. She say, oh, he ain't no good in bed. You can't take it back what you gave him. How much? Ocho. How much money can they get back, Joe? They can't get nothing back. But listen, though. But think about it. Hell, we done went all out. We done gave that man the most guaranteed money probably ever. Yep. Listen. Hey, look. We ain't got to go into the season winner, but hell, we got to get a small sample size throughout this preseason just to give him an opportunity. I just don't think he's going to make it, bro. I don't think he's going to make it.

1:04:31Shannon Sharpe:I'm sorry. From what I've seen the day. The first thing was is that the likelihood after that length of time, think about it, 19 games in five years. 19 games. What pro could take that kind of time off? As great as Jordan was, now he was older, but you can't take that kind of time off. Five years, 19 games in five years? At least Jordan might have been playing pickup. You can get some. If you're an NFL player, Ocho, Where you go to replicate a game? Play flag? You can't. At least I can get some pickup game. I can play five on five. I can play three on three. I can get me some open runs, Joe. Yeah.

1:05:14Shannon Sharpe:I can do something that will resemble the game of basketball. If you're a football player, you can't do nothing. Drop back? What you going to do? Just drop back and throw it to a net?

1:05:29Shannon Sharpe:It's unfortunate, bro. It's unfortunate for Deshaun. because i'm sure he still loves the game and still wants to play at a high level but i don't think cleveland is the place bro i don't that's that's my only point joe uh i've said we've said a lot ocho that's my only point yeah yeah listen cleveland might not cleveland

1:05:54Joe Johnson:might not be the place you hear me it might not be the place uncle joe four was going at their started week one. I'm telling you.

1:06:02Shannon Sharpe:You say he started week one?

1:06:05Joe Johnson:Yes, man. I'm telling you how them folk thinking. I like what you're saying, Joe. Joe, listen to me. I want to see two out there, too. I'm telling you how them people sitting up there thinking. Not the one sitting in the stands. I'm telling you. Uncle, you've been riding this business for a very long time. We know who we want to see. Hell, I

1:06:27Shannon Sharpe:want to see him, too. thank you oh joe but folk on star but it's not been he's making it difficult for me to put him in that's what i'm saying man yo okay okay i get it he got 46 million dollar cap here i get that

1:06:48Joe Johnson:you think 46 finna be on the bench man they got to eat that they got to eat that in this ain't mad If they was eating it, they would have caught him.

1:06:57Shannon Sharpe:Joe, if they were going to eat it, they would have caught him. He wouldn't even be there. Joe believes that's still a possibility. Yeah, I do.

1:07:05Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, I'll tell you one thing. You don't make you no bad brother.

1:07:13Shannon Sharpe:But I think Shadouar helped himself today. It's going to be very, very interesting. They got one game left. There's a great chance that neither one of them. The question is, the question that I have, what are they going to do? Are they going to play Shadour the last preseason game? Are they going to play Deshaun the last preseason game? I think Deshaun is going to play for sure. You think Shadour plays? I think Deshaun is going to play for sure. I think he's going to play. And that's probably going to be it. I'm just keeping real with y 'all. In Cleveland. He's going to get a chance to play somewhere else.

1:07:49Joe Johnson:You know what? at some point at some point we've been doing this you know obviously especially this year i've been on a general generational run when it comes to telling y 'all what's gonna happen whether it's basketball whether it's football whether it's boxing and for some reason y 'all continue to always not listen to me not been wrong two times maybe no just one time i've been wrong one time by lebron coming to miami everything outside of that especially during basketball season i have been right i have been correct and at some point y 'all are going to listen to me that's including the chat that's including the chat who keeps cussing me out and telling me i don't know what i'm talking about and i for some reason i'm right every time now in this situation joe i want the same thing you do unc i want the same thing you do but what i'm doing is i'm putting my gm hat on even though i'm not a gm and i'm just understanding the business aspect and how things operate on their end and how they're thinking 46 million do i want it on the bench no i'm going to get something out of him i'm going to see what he can do even though my money's already gone and if I was going to let him go I would have let him go before the season started and just say you know what Shadour is my guy what I'm going to do is I'm a cold play as if we having a quarterback competition knowing that I'm going to start the man that's making the most money anyway

1:09:03Shannon Sharpe:before you go Joe let me say this

1:09:04Joe Johnson:Joe I'm telling you how them people think

1:09:06Shannon Sharpe:after Deshaun Watson and Sody Brown's fans NFL Network Daniel Jeremiah has changed his tune I flipped on this I start Shadour Sanders and cut Deshaun Watson you're going to eat 40 million anyway What we talking about? Even if he do come out, let's say he do play Ocho, and he do play decent. Hell, you ain't going to bring him back. You ain't bringing him back, bro. Deshaun has no future in Cleveland. So why are we waiting? Why are we waiting? That was my only point. That was my only point, Joe. I told Ocho this. When we talked about this, I said, Ocho, I would release Deshaun. He's like, oh, he got.

1:09:44Shannon Sharpe:I said, because he's not going to be there after this year. I've seen the Broncos do it with Russ. I've seen the Packers do it with Aaron Rodgers. Go ahead and remove that Time out if you were gonna go ahead and remove it why you wait to preseason because let's come back even do it They think they're logical they're practical They're the Browns they're browning

1:10:09Joe Johnson:It makes no sense it makes no sense to make a circus out of a quarterback competition if you were going to release him anyway. That makes no sense.

1:10:18Shannon Sharpe:I'm bringing it out for you. It's B-R-O-W-N-S.

1:10:25Joe Johnson:Browns. Hey, listen. All right. Y 'all got it. You know, Uncle Joe, I love all your scenarios. And I've said it. I've said it countless times before, Chad. I've said it countless times before. The quarterback of the future will be number two. It'll be Sanders. I said that. I said that. and the only reason I'm saying that Deshaun is going to start is simply because of how much he's making. If you were going to cut him and just say, they would have done it already. There's no reason to even bring him back. It's not. I want the apology. I want both of y 'all the apology. Week one to be just as loud as the disrespect.

1:11:05Joe Johnson:That includes the chat. Chat, y 'all talking trash. I see you. You're lucky I'm strong mentally. It's not going to bother me. I still love y 'all. I love you regardless of what you say. I see all the little jokes and calling me bald head and all that. I see you. I still love y 'all.

1:11:21Shannon Sharpe:I said, Ocho, this is what I would do. If I ran the Browns organization, given that I'm not going to resign him, I'm going to go ahead and remove him. I've always felt that. That's what you should do. The Broncos did it at$836 million. Look at what the Packers did with Rodgers. We just saw the Cardinals do with Kyler.

1:11:49Shannon Sharpe:And even though they moved on, none of those guys have looked bad. Really the only thing with Kyler, he couldn't stay healthy. He's a small man. I don't know why you think he can stay healthy. But with that being said, as bad as people might look at Russ, Russ did not look as bad in Denver as Deshaun looks in Cleveland. Aaron Rodgers did not look as bad in Green Bay his last year there as Deshaun looked. Kyler couldn't stay on the field. Deshaun couldn't stay on the field. And when he was on the field, he didn't look good. It's okay to say that. I'm not breaking any news. I did not interrupt your normal schedule programming to tell y 'all Deshaun Watson has not played well since he's been in Cleveland.

1:12:33Shannon Sharpe:And there are a myriad of reasons. It's mental. It's physical. It's psychological. It's emotional. That's wearing on him. You need a clear mind to play sports. You got to, you must. The number one thing, yes, you got to be physically gifted. Yes, you got to be mentally tough. But I believe the number one thing you got to be able to do is compartmentalize. Yep. Because your mind is not going to be free all the time. Your wife, your girlfriend, your significant other is going to do something, going to put you in the mood. Maybe you're having family issues. Maybe the fan base. You've got to be able to compartmentalize, focus on this game.

1:13:18Shannon Sharpe:Everything that's not in between these white lines is unimportant at this moment. Yeah. Yeah. The greater you can do that, the greater player you can become.

1:13:30Joe Johnson:I think, honestly, I think they all can, especially the quarterback they get the most scrutiny wins and losses the based on their performance he's been playing this game a long time therefore it should be easy for him

1:13:42Shannon Sharpe:Ocho the man with the man took down Nick Saban in Alabama

1:13:49Shannon Sharpe:he go he goes he tears he tears his knee in Houston and he takes off like a rocket ship so this is he's at Gainesville he's from Georgia the man threw for 12 13 ,000 yards so he's really never had to face this level of scrutiny that's why you need to face some adversity young younger in your life yes uh right because if you wait till you get to your you get to your 20s or you get to your 30s your first time of facing adversity and you've never really faced adversity? It'll break it.

1:14:30Joe Johnson:Hold on. Hold on now. 20s and 30s, you still face adversity at some point in life. Maybe not to this magnitude, but you still, and you prepped a little bit. You know how you preheat the oven before you put the turkey? You done had adversity preheated a little bit. Maybe not to this magnitude, but you got to learn how to deal with it. You got to be able to block it, especially as a quarterback. when I walk in that locker room I don't care what I got going on outside family, home girlfriend, it don't matter what it is everybody can't work like that though Ocho

1:15:05Shannon Sharpe:that's compartmentalization the greater you can do that the better you are

1:15:10Joe Johnson:I master that you got to think when I played the game I was the villain, I wanted to piss everybody off on the outside I wanted you mad, I didn't want you liking me I enjoy being the villain Joe it's okay because once I step in that locker room at Paul Brown Stadium pay Cornell man I don't hear and see none of that I don't hear and see none of that

1:15:32Shannon Sharpe:and I can care less how you feel about it the younger you start something the better you're at it the better the better you are at it when you start playing yeah look at you think Venus and Serena could have did this if they just started at 16 17 as a supposed to starting at 7 and 8 no I don't no so the great the younger you started something the better you are at it. That's why most people start that be really, really good at something. Boxers, how long, how old was Floyd when he had gloves on? Dan probably had gloves on him. The glove probably weighed more than he did.

1:16:08Joe Johnson:He did, yeah.

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