Nightcap Hour 1: Terron Armstead & Cam Jordan react to Darren Waller's UNRETIRING to join the Dolphins!

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2:31welcome to nightcap takeover week two it's a real t stead takeover i am your host toron armstead joined by a living legend an active legend the all-time sack leader in New Orleans Saints history. A true Ironman. This guy has over 200 starts. He has 128 and a half and three quarters sacks. Brother, none other than the future Hall of Famer, Cam Jordan. I appreciate putting that stank on him. You gave me seven extra sacks, bro. I'm only 121 and a half deep, you know? But it's in 120s. I appreciate it. 21 sacks is insane. Insane. Hey, God is good. Something like 49 different quarterbacks, 121 sacks.

3:31You know, there's like another five and a half in playoffs, but, like, that don't count, allegedly. Like Matt Ryan. 23. Michael Jordan type number. You know what I'm saying? Two, three. And we're going to get into some situations tonight. I want the viewers to understand the level of petty cams, Jordan, like the lengths that he go to be petty and the way that he prepares to be petty. Why do you know exactly how many times you've sat that one person? Well, one, because it's not just like a franchise record or like, because, you know, I do hate the Falcons the way that I hate them. But two, like, you know, articles have came out.

4:12There's in the Hall of Fame, they're like, dang, there's one defensive player in fact, one quarterback, the most times out of anybody in the 108 years of NFL history, it's me and Matt Ryan. Really? Yeah, that's why. It's historic. That's legendary. You should know that. You're right. You're right. You should know. Do you have, like, a stat of, like, how many times you pancake one particular guy? If you look out in the league, like, oh, when I line up against him, that's food. Like, whether, you know, it's a nondescript defenseman because every time he touches the field, he's like, his cleat's barely tired, or he's sponsored by Adidas.

4:47You know he ain't coming off the edge like that. Okay. I feel you should know that number. That is history, NFL history. So the most times one defensive player has sacked one quarterback is 23. That's Cam Jordan second, Matt Ryan. Yeah, I think second and second, somewhere in like the teens. Like, you know, I think it was like Aaron Donald and Russ or somebody or Von Miller and Phillip Rivers. But they're in the teens. We left that. and they might be underage with what they say. You know what I'm saying? I'm legal in this thing. We're catching drinks with that thing. And as a mutual Falcons hater, I love that.

5:26I love that. That is great to know. Crazy part. I didn't even finish the intro. I didn't. I'll get back to the intro. But crazy part about this whole Falcons Saints thing is we both know the GM. Terry Fondo. Very well. So it makes it, for me, it makes it a little harder to hate them so publicly, even though I still do it. I fight that. But for you, does it change at all? Hell no. No. Terry is my dog to this day. It's a lot like me being a Laker hater. Like, I got nothing but love for Terry Fontenot. But he left. It's like David Onyemata. You know David Onyemata is my dog. Big O. Come on now. Kate Nellis.

6:10Like, these are my dogs. But when you go put on that trash, that trash color i never sat with red anyway you know what i'm saying like my high school back in my high school days our rival high school was this weird ass maroon you know i go to college it's that ugly ass whatever whatever stanford is you know what i'm saying it's a pathetic scarlet you know whatever color they want to put out there with the dancing tree so we go to the saints and it's it's it's a it's a wannabe blood red but the only bleeding is the Falcons. It's crazy. I'm with you. Red is just not my color. It's not meant to be.

6:47No blood for Cam Jack. Unless Tango one day, allegedly, that man said he's going to get drafted. He's going to the NFL. I'm not saying no business over my hate. If he ever get drafted by the Falcons, guess who it would be? all right all right i wanted to know how how deep does that hatred go like how far down that because if tank line up in a falcons uniform yeah you're a falcon like like if he get drafted there like high drafted there yeah if we low drafted there we may be able to finesse some things and get them out of here he had to do a bid real quick but we get him out of there no no you can't do that you're gonna have to be a falcon you got to get a falcon tattoo Oh, boy, the only tattoo I got is a wifey.

7:37You know, wedding ring is the only one. You know what I mean? I know you are. But it's just, it's part of it. It's part of it. You got to do it. That's your story. Don't put that on me, brother. I got one tattoo. Bitch, I've been married for seven years, as I believe, yesterday. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. If my son ever gets drafted to the NFL, I'm getting it. I'm getting it. Well, shoot, you got to put truth on there, too. Like, truth by V.A. I don't say hey look one day when I get more tattoos yeah I might I might add that to the story when I get the legacy we low-key gonna look too old for tattoos I think I'm 35 cousin ain't no low-key high-key you're right you're right but what they gotta do I might I might do it anyways because I can't be stopped now what can they do like camp jay gonna do what cam j want to do this intro my good brother i'm sorry yeah yeah my bad start up your intro our policies welcome to nightcap takeoff all right now i don't have to go that far but i'm here with my co-host legendary future hall of famer cam jordan later will be joined by our little brother sees suezer ruiz he's the right guard for the new orleans saints and make sure you please subscribe, like Nightcap Show, filling in for Shannon Sharp and Ocho Cinco, Unc Shea Shea and Ocho, they are doing whatever they're doing in their respective places, vacation or whatever.

9:12Thoughts and prayers up to ISO Joe, Joe Johnson. I'm still not sure of the magnitude of his injury he suffered yesterday and why he wasn't able to be on Nightcap, but definitely thinking about ISO Joe that he got to, you know, hope is not too serious so he can still call that, call that ISO and bing, bing. Whoever want to, bing, bing, whoever want to walk up, he bing, bing. You know what I mean? ISO Joe. So definitely looking out for those guys, holding it down here at nightcap. Cam J, we had, I'm talking about my Dolphins, if you don't mind. Don't talk crazy, brother. Okay? What you mean? I like the Dolphins.

9:51Okay. We had the block yesterday. yesterday we had Jalen Ramsey Jalen Ramsey for Minka Jonu Smith for Minka Fitzpatrick in the fifth round pick wait oh wait it was Jonu too Jalen Ramsey Jonu Smith in the seventh round pick nobody talked about that they just said Jalen for Minka I thought it was a head up deal I said dang got a young gun yeah he nice he up and coming I don't know how many years you can say somebody's up and coming but yeah I mean he's coming off career year for sure. John was incredible last year. He was the offensive MVP or the MVP of the whole team, if you ask me, for the Dolphins.

10:32So I think he found with his display of what he did last year, he's going to be a focal point in any offense. Like you see what he can do. He's a running back once he gets the ball in his hands. He's a very hard tackle. So John was a beast. Losing him hurt. you lose Jalen Ramsey for Minka Fitzpatrick you can justify that especially because Ramsey was publicly unhappy like he wanted to get out of there so you get back in all pro all world safety arguably the best in the league you know but losing that added component of Johnnie Smith that does hurt it does hurt yeah I mean you say that but then you know you had a he had a former NFL player via rapper turn you know unretired he released he released the track in front of Allegiant Stadium it was like you know what going back to football I see I didn't even get to that part yet okay well so you lose you lose one you bring one back you know right so I think as I say Johnnie Smith is a loss from everything that he done done last year you look at the roster before today and that is a that is a void we don't really have a tight end on the roster that can do what johnny smith does for an offense until today happens darren waller comes out of retirement and it's traded to the miami dolphins how do you feel about the trade from yesterday now that this new development has happened hey one out one in huh that's that's a I mean, I don't think he can replace a young guy like John New Smith.

12:13And again, what do you have, like 800 yards, 900 yards this last year? I think it was 1 ,000. I don't think so. I don't think – 1 ,000 is a hard mark for a tight end. I'm not going to knock him down. But I'm going to say it was eye-opening. It wasn't like, ooh. New probably had 1 ,000 last year. I'm not exactly sure. I got to fact check. You know what? I can do this. I got a phone. don't worry about it 884 yards eight tutties 52 yards a game round it up uh to not 900

12:49but hey hey that's solid that's solid that's solid it's hard to get a thousand yards everybody look at a tight end be like oh if he's not a thousand no this is not a wide receiver that's not his only ability like he gotta he gotta he gotta be a speed bump for about 10 12 plays out the game to a tight end to a you know edge rusher or a defensive end that's putting hands on him. He get the cuffs put on him. He got to look up at the stand and say I'm going to get him back next time mama. Not new. He ain't getting no hand. All up. All up. A-L-L. Apostre M. All. All up. All right. Aaron Waller unretired.

13:30I've traded 32 year old tight end for a conditional 7th round, 2027, 7th round pick, and also a 2026, 6th round pick. Waller comes out of retirement on a one-year deal up to$5 million to fill the void that was just created by the departure of John Lewis Smith. So very minimal, in my opinion, compensation that the Dolphins had to give away. Very minimal. For the Giants, it's just giving them free picks because Darren Waller was retired anyway. so win on both sides and i think the big winner i really do i think the big winner is miami dolphins i thought you were gonna say steelers because they they they came up with a with a bust this offseason they picking up everybody anybody who around they like them they they picked them up oh we want to be oh we just shipped off uh young young all right let's go get dk mackett oh we we got a vet safety you know what we'll take this vet corner right here if we we uh We about to do something.

14:30Give us Darius Slay. I don't know who they ain't picked up at this point. Oh, quarterback, huh? Oh, no. We like you. We want you. Let's make this happen. Yeah, very, very untraditional Steelers offseason, for sure. Yes and no. You know the Steelers, by tradition, love their veterans. Facts. They love a good veteran leadership core. They're not going for the untested. George Pickens was just about to be a veteran and was like, you know what? we'll take this ultra vet, D.K. Metcalf. We know we can get 1 ,200 yards out of him. That's a fact. That's a fact. I give you that. You could save the Dolphins, but a lot like them.

15:11That's my reason. Okay. And this is a bit of insight. You know what I mean? Dolphins for the last three years. So we know that the talent of Darren Waller is in question. We know what we can do at that tight end position. he's he's a huge target for tua it's physical he's explosive after he catches the ball so he got home run ability paired with married with tarik hill jaylen waddle devon a-chan like the weapons outside of him so his one-on-one opportunities just skyrocketed but the reason hey uh this the devon a-chan explain who that is real quick don't do that bro don't no no that's That's a receiver.

15:56I'm saying, like, what's his – how many years is he in the league? I don't know him, so I'm asking. It's not a don't do that. I just haven't met him yet. We haven't played the Saints since I've been gone, and y 'all look to. But, hey, that was when I sacked Jacoby Brissett and Tua in the same game. I was on your team, brother. We was teammates. It was COVID. We was missing half a team. That's a fact. That's a fact. But I wasn't blocking for them at that time. Even if he was, I'd never go against you anyways. I'm not going on the right side. I'll be right there on the left unless you start mauling our defensive end, and then I got to go start playing, you know.

16:31Oh, okay, so it's a problem. Let me go over there. It's a problem. Devon A. Chan, you don't know him because you haven't played him yet. He's the running back. He is the Marshall Falk, the Alvin Kamara. He's Christian McCaffrey-style running back. he's had over he broke the NFL record for yards per carry as a rookie. He's about 43, huh? I'm looking at this picture. Okay, continue. That's a grown man. Okay. He's lived a couple lives. Continue. Oh, bro. Yeah.

17:10From the picture that I'm looking at just a quick little snippet. You know what I'm saying? If you say... Yeah, grown man, for sure. Grown man. Then it said 23. I think it meant 35. The boy in his second year, he just finished his second year in the league. His son, like, nine years old. So he is a grown man. I told you, he done lived a whole life. Okay. His son ain't that old. Probably like five. Oh, sure. You know, they happen. Look, I done had teammates that definitely hit the league and had grown men by the time they left. My dog, Tyson Olulu, his son Ray, I think, as he was leaving, was at Temple or something like that.

17:52You remember Jerry McCoy? Jerry McCoy had a jet going to Oklahoma right on his way out. That is crazy. That's dope as hell. It is. Hey, if I could run it back without the repercussions of my mama probably slapping the hell out of me, I would have loved to have been, like, you know, in the league with the little man. Like, Tank now? Like, think about him. if Tank was like 10, I don't know how to do this. If I was like 18, 19 when I had him, he'd be like 17 right now. You know how five I would be? He'd be like, that's my dog. That's not my son. That's my dog. So, I get you. My twin is going to be 13 this year.

18:28So, I... Oh, God. Yeah, pray for me. Please. Yeah, but they... Them track babies, real. I knew what you was doing. What out there? Breathe. Just... Come on now. Breathe. athletes, teams, DNA. They specialize in the one-two. Look, I done seen the baby girl's legs. I done seen the way she took off. That's a four and an eight. We on that court, man. We hooping. We hooping more than anything. We on that court. WNBA and all that. Yeah. We see the vision. We right there with them. Dang. I assumed. Let me get back to my... I'm over here deviating. That's on me. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I won't deviate no more.

19:10so Devon A10 yeah that's in the league dual threat he's he's fired um so you pairing Darren Waller you putting him into that situation huge target that Tua has not had but the the the key behind this acquisition is the reason that Darren Waller retired from the NFL because he fell out of love with the game and and darren is a he's a player that is extremely passionate he's been through a lot and football wasn't fun for him because of his environment like who was the the and not his teammates or anything like that he just didn't find the love in the game he didn't have the support system that he felt he needed to continue you playing or playing at the level that he's accustomed to playing.

20:03Yeah. The difference here, Darren Waller's best years. It's like a four year stretch where he was a top three tight end in the league. His tight ends coach was Frank Smith. Frank Smith is the offensive coordinator for the Miami dolphins. When you're teeing off and your clients are watching, it's on when the game goes to overtime and your squad is right there with you. It's on when you swap out that other Nick, If you want a nicotine pouch for something softer and feel the difference right away, it's on. On Plus Nicotine Pouches with Niko Silk Mesh. No corners, no rough edges, just the softest pouch on the planet.

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22:54I think that cannot be minimized, that if you can add the Darren Waller who's in love with the game, the all-pro talent to this Miami Dolphins offense, ultimately, and it's to be seen, the Dolphins win the trade. Okay. Way to fight back for your Dolphins again. I love it. If you like it, I love it. Because guess what they are? If they are black and gold and then they have AFC, I don't really care. Although maybe I do. I don't know. But the new playoff rules is different. So maybe I do care. No, I don't. I haven't even paid attention yet. I got to. AFC, NFC, you don't got to. Yeah, yeah. I'm still trying to.

23:34I said we got new playoff rules. I'm sure I'll get around to it. Now you don't want to just win the division. You want to like win everything or something like that. We're going to have to play in before the play in like the NBA soon. Like it's cool. let's go let's go wreck people's bodies we're gonna be 20 we're gonna be 23 games deep in the next five years all right a regular season jaunts not even nothing oh they don't care about our bodies and that's fine oh that's a fact 23 games yeah i mean the players do it to themselves they what did tony brown say they took the money they take the money every time owners know every time the CBA pop up, it's going to be 80 % of us be like, no, hell no.

24:18Hell no. We ain't standing for this. And as soon as the CBA really come through, it's going to be 35 % of quarterbacks. They'll be like, so anyways, we're going to take this. Yeah, we're going to take this every time. It's going to be some marquee guys like, hell no, we're not doing that. And on the table, they'll be like, yeah, so we're going to take that deal. They know what they'd be doing with that CBA. That 10-year contract that most of us don't rock with, but they just give you a little bit let them smoke a little more weed let's raise that marijuana level oh can't give more percentage points but you know what we can do raise up this cap you like that you like that league minimum amount okay you ain't getting a bigger piece of the pie you just getting more toppings that's a fact we fall for it every time and I'm just sitting there sitting there like, yep, we dummies.

25:16I love that for us. And at the same time, look, we can't even complain because of baby violins. The moment you enter the league, even if you're a practice ball player, you are the top three percentile of the country. You make it down in your quarter mil. Look, no complaints at all, man. No complaints. We live a beautiful life. We play a beautiful game. No complaints. A few complaints. Yeah. Complaints? Yeah. I got my issues with y 'all. Yeah, absolutely. Got my issues. It's all good. Thankful, though. Grateful. Appreciate it. Hey, thankful. I love you. For real. I like my next generation to do better, and I like to fight for that.

25:53That's all I'm saying. I see. I want better for the ones coming up next. You know what I mean? That's all. Man, just think about this. You remember what your rookie pay was? Rookie pay? I mean. Rookie pay was four something. 405. My rookie pay was 365. I had a thousand dollars for every day of the year. And I said, look at God. I said, what are you doing? No, after taxes, you got a taxes, that 405, 215. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm saying taxes. So that 405 was 215. You don't see, you don't see nothing more than that. I had to grab me a crisis 300. So that's 35 grand out the dough. give me an apartment you know i mean that's another 30 grand for the year so yeah yeah yeah and yet you still have stuff left over that's what i'm saying but now what is rookie minimum now is darn near show the nine it's like it's like yeah it's beautiful and that's why we suck because we fall for whatever time in the cba right that's what young boys too they're making too much money.

27:05Can't tell them young boys nothing. Can't tell them shit. I am. Different. Hey, my daddy first paycheck was$35 ,000. Ooh, Steve got that$35 ,000. 1982, that boy got drafted to the Minnesota Vikings. He got that$30 ,000. It was like$33 ,500. $35 ,000 or something. I said, Lord. He should include that$35 ,000. You know what I'm saying? He was like, I'm about to go buy a Porsche. So Porsche was like 32. It was like, never mind. Never mind. I'll holler later. But should we look? That's what I'm saying. We got small violins compared to with the beginning. Could you imagine playing this game and still having to go get a job in the offseason?

27:48Ain't no way. You know my story at Pine Bluff, bro. You know it was. What was what? Going through it. Being a janitor during the summers and trying to get to camp practice. Hey. Getting off the clock. So, yeah. Hey, I was out there being a bouncer in the offseason, and during the season I was a peer advisor. I'm putting a tie on. Hey, kids, come on. Let me show you where the classes are. Hey, you need to get in the club. I got to wind you down, player. Turn around. Throwing on my Darren Waller voice because you know my shit too high for me to be a bouncer. You probably wasn't securing nothing anyway, letting anybody in.

28:24I'm securing. Hey, securing. That tall tee's on. You ain't pat nobody down. What you mean? oh man black force you letting everybody in nah we don't you know black force energy I need a good night you know what I'm saying that's on me but I'm never doing I'm never doing man I was always in the middle of the dance floor out there I'm secure anyway but now they got the NIL they out there hitting licks I'll be over there getting excited for them I'll be like seven schools in seven years we out there They got no loyalty now. I'm in the league with a whole resume. Living resume. Them boys, hey, my quarterback, we just drafted Tyler Shupp, been to about 17 schools.

29:18You know, he coming in at 25 years old, a whole lot of confidence. His name sound old. Tyler Shupp, yeah. And here Arizona boy, you know what I'm saying? Man, he's a grown man for a monster. Shut down. Yeah. He ain't going to shut. Yeah, easy. Yeah, he ain't. Look, he already 25. I think he's our oldest quarterback on the roster. It's like him, then I think Jake Hayner, and then Spencer Rattler. That's year one, two, three. Make that make sense. Man. We got young boys. Yeah, we got young boys. Excited. Let's talk a little offense, man. We just touched it. about the Dolphins offense, that acquisition.

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