In short
Nightcap Episode 1: The hosts open with the Houston Texans beating the Kansas City Chiefs 20-10 at Arrowhead. They argue the Chiefs’ offense looked “one-dimensional” because Patrick Mahomes (14-of-33, 160 yards, 3 INTs, no TDs) was forced to throw while the run game failed. Key claims include: Andy Reid’s decision to go for it (instead of punting/playing for points at 10-10) was a costly mistake; the Texans’ defense “won the game” by pressuring and exposing the Chiefs’ secondary after Trent McDuffie went out; and dropped chances by KC receivers (Tyquan Thornton, Rashee Rice, and Travis Kelce on the final drive) helped swing momentum.
Notable examples
Mahomes being intercepted twice late; the Texans forcing a stretch where passes were incomplete or intercepted; and Mahomes leading KC in rushing (7 carries, 59 yards) as a sign of imbalance.
The second segment turns to Cleveland’s coaching controversy around quarterback Shadour Sanders, criticizing Kevin Stefanski’s late-game decisions (including two-point attempts and taking Sanders out) as “sophisticated tanking.” They cite Sanders’ historic stat line (first Browns QB since 1950 with 300 pass yards, 3 pass TDs, and a rush TD) and emphasize his third-start performance (near 400 yards, 4 total TDs).
Guests
None. The episode is hosted by Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGame Analysis: Texans vs. Chiefs
2:38 to 3:49
A detailed analysis of the Texans' victory against the Chiefs and Mahomes' struggles.
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Game Analysis: Texans vs. Chiefs
5:37 to 7:18
A detailed analysis of the Texans' victory against the Chiefs and Mahomes' struggles.
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Chiefs' Offensive Struggles
7:19 to 10:52
Discussion on the Chiefs' offensive problems and Mahomes' performance this season.
“Once Trent McDuffie went out, you knew that Spagnuolo had to bring pressure.”
Coaching Decisions and Future Outlook
10:53 to 14:01
Exploring coaching decisions and implications for the Chiefs' playoffs chances.
“I disagree with the call that Andy made because points are out of premium.”
Assessing the Chiefs' Need for Playmakers
14:01 to 16:30
Discussion on the Kansas City Chiefs' need for better running backs and playmakers to support Patrick Mahomes.
“That's what he is, Ocho, and there's nothing wrong with that.”
Defensive Struggles and Coaching Decisions
16:31 to 19:15
Analysis of the Chiefs' defensive performance and the impact of injuries on their game strategy.
“I think they need to do whatever they need to do in the offseason, they need to go get Alvin Kamara.”
Houston Texans' Victory Over Kansas City
19:16 to 20:32
Celebration of the Houston Texans' win against the Chiefs and discussion of their playoff prospects.
“The passes were either incomplete or they were intercepted.”
Houston Texans' Victory Over Kansas City
23:18 to 24:12
Celebration of the Houston Texans' win against the Chiefs and discussion of their playoff prospects.
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Houston Texans' Victory Over Kansas City
24:20 to 24:50
Celebration of the Houston Texans' win against the Chiefs and discussion of their playoff prospects.
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Kevin Stefanski's Controversial Coaching Decisions
24:51 to 28:01
Debate over Browns coach Kevin Stefanski's decision-making, particularly regarding Shadour's performance and game strategy.
“Ocho, the Titans beat the Browns, but Shadour joined a very historic club during his third NFL start.”
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Critique of Wildcat Plays
28:01 to 28:49
Discussion on the ineffectiveness of the Wildcat formation in current football.
“And the stuff you pull in when you get after you score and taking them out.”
Praise for QBs Performance
28:50 to 30:18
Highlighting a quarterback's improvement and successful plays during the game.
“Yeah good The world that he had that was given a fan in junior the one need to touch the jury jury Judy that he hit for 60 that basically was the same play that he missed, that he overshot him the game before.”
Questionable Coaching Decisions
30:19 to 31:37
Exploration of the coach's controversial choices during the game, including playcalling.
“And he's playing through his bull-jive coach.”
Reactions to the Two-Point Conversion Call
31:38 to 33:54
Discussion on the decision-making process behind the two-point conversion attempts.
“And the guy forgetting to pitch the ball.”
Stefanski's Accountability
33:55 to 35:14
Analyzing coach Stefanski's accountability for the team's performance and decisions.
“If you was going to flip it to him, what was he going to do?”
The NFL's Strategy vs. College Plays
35:15 to 37:48
Debate on the appropriateness of college-style plays in the NFL, particularly in crucial situations.
“about going for two, that last two-point conversion.”
Defense's Frustration with Offense
37:49 to 42:05
Discussion on the defense's performance and frustration with offensive play calling.
“We can't go back in time, undo what's already done.”
The Offense's Performance and Team Dynamics
42:05 to 45:00
Discussing how the offense supported the defense and team morale.
“But players in that locker room, they can't say anything.”
Coaching Decisions and Tanking Strategies
45:01 to 46:40
Analyzing coach Stefanski's decisions and theories about tanking.
“What other quarterback is out there, Ocho?”
Quarterback Comparisons and Fan Expectations
46:41 to 48:20
Comparing Shadour Sanders with other quarterbacks and discussing fan opinions.
“I take the names out the back of the jerseys.”
Historic Quarterback Performances
48:21 to 50:40
Highlighting impressive performances from quarterbacks past and present.
“Where's the guys that had thrown for, oh, Joe Burrow, number one overall.”
The Impact of Confidence in Young Players
50:41 to 52:30
Exploring how confidence influences young quarterbacks and their development.
“Only got his throne for more was Daniel Jones.”
The Impact of Confidence in Young Players
55:50 to 56:42
Exploring how confidence influences young quarterbacks and their development.
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Ravens' Loss and Referee Controversies
57:34 to 1:02:16
The hosts discuss the Ravens' recent game loss, focusing on a controversial referee call.
“notably an overturned touchdown reception by Isaiah Likely in the fourth quarter.”
Lamar Jackson's Performance and Team Dynamics
1:02:16 to 1:10:00
A deep dive into Lamar Jackson's playing performance, team challenges, and coaching dynamics.
“But most of the way the teams are set up now, Ocho, you got to throw the ball at some point in time.”
Analyzing the Ravens' Offense and Coaching Decisions
1:10:00 to 1:20:28
Learn about the challenges facing the Ravens' offense and the criticism directed at their coaching.
“And most of the time, he'll knock on your door, and the fact that you don't answer the door, maybe that's the problem.”
Mike Tomlin and the Steelers' Future
1:20:28 to 1:22:04
Discuss the future of Mike Tomlin as the Steelers' head coach amid rumors of change.
“Yeah, they lost the Super Bowl to Green Bay, and then they went to the championship game against the Patriots.”
Transcript
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4:07Shannon Sharpe:Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Houston Texans move to 8-5 thanks to a 2010 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs fall to 6-7, and their run of winning the division, that's out of the window. But just making the playoffs, that got bleak tonight with this 20-10 loss at home to the Houston Texans. Ocho, we're going to get into that in just a second. I do not agree with that call that Andy Reid made going for it. When points are at a premium, you don't leave a team in field goal range. They don't have to get a first down.
4:40Shannon Sharpe:and they can get a field goal like that, but they scored a touchdown. I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co-host, the Liberty City legend, Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All-Pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. None of this is possible without you. None of the awards, none of the adulation, None of the praise, almost 2 million subs, none of this is possible without you.
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5:50Shannon Sharpe:Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Check out my media company page on all of its platforms. That's Shea Shea Media and my clothing company, 84 with 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. The Houston Texans beat the Kansas City Chiefs by the score of 20-10. Patrick Mahomes threw three interceptions as Kansas City playoffs hopes continue to fade. He was 14-33, under 50 % completion, only 160 yards, no touchdowns, three interceptions, was sacked twice. He didn't get much help from his receiving core. Tyquan Thornton dropped the touchdown. Travis Kelsey dropped two plays on that final drive, Ocho, and then one of them got picked.
6:30Shannon Sharpe:Rasheed Rice dropped a huge fourth down. He got little. Petrie, I think that thing kind of jarred him a little bit. I don't think he was all the way back, Ocho, because Petrie dropped the boom on him. He did. He dropped the boom on him. He was totally relaxed. But the Texans did an unbelievable job. They got after the quarterback tonight, and they forced him to shut down. I mean, they had 20. But Mahomes was the lead rushing with seven carries for 59 yards. But Ocho, watching this game, and you see the Houston Texans and what they were able to do. They go into Arrowhead. They get this victory.
7:02Shannon Sharpe:Stay attached to the Jacksonville Jaguars who lead that division. Yes. They needed this victory in order to try to gain some footing, get into the playoff hunt, and potentially chase down the Jags. But what did you like about what you saw from the Houston Texans? Listen, the Texans got it done. What I didn't like, obviously, they didn't make enough adjustments for me, especially offensively. Once Trent McDuffie went out, you knew that Spagnuolo had to bring pressure. Now, with them bringing pressure, I got tired of seeing CJ Stroud run for his life, and they make no adjustments offensively. Obviously, I would think if you know they're blitzing every time, stop running plays where the plays take long to develop.
7:41Just go quick game. If anything, do things, you know, misdirection. Get him going one way and come back the opposite way with something else. But just seeing CJ Stroud run for his life, but they were able to make some plays, even with that pressure. and the back end was exposed. Obviously, that's going to happen once you do blitz. And outside of that, the defense won that game. The defense for the Houston Texans won that game for them. I'm not sure what's wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs. They lost, what, four of the last fives or something like that. They just don't look the same. Obviously, they have a great run.
8:17They've had a great run and probably even though they have 15, who probably is arguably one of the greatest, if not maybe the second greatest quarterback of all time, this year just hasn't been it for them at all. Everyone is healthy now offensively. Everyone is healthy now offensively, and they let Packham Homes down. Rasheed Rice, Hollywood Brown, he made some plays. Kelsey, he looks almost like a shell of himself. He does.
8:41Shannon Sharpe:He didn't play well. It's cold, Ocho. When you're old, it's cold, Ocho, man. That ain't no excuse. You have to adapt to the elements. You got to adapt to the elements. How you doubt to get old?
8:57Shannon Sharpe:there's a reason why old people move to Florida and Arizona hold on hold on we've been catching footballs all our life we've been 36 all our life we've been 37 all our life we've been 40 all our life listen listen to me listen to me real quick all you need is your eyes and your hands that's all it come down to you could be 60 years old your eyes and your hands that don't never fail you regardless of how old you get but the Houston Texas that goddamn defense on they can get after the quarterback they got their back in the back end man played very well so I'm glad to see the Texans win they've won the last four their last five games so it seems like they're ascending right now while the Kansas City Chiefs are descending they are like I said Tyquan Thornton had a touchdown in his hands he dropped that great play by great play to not give up by Lasseter to continue to fight all the way through the catch Rashid Rice had a couple of drops Travis had a couple of drops We know that The offensive line is beat to hell The left tackle comes in And he gets out Now you're going against You're going with an undrafted Left tackle Against Daniel Hunter And Will Anderson Jr.
10:06Shannon Sharpe:That's not a recipe for success But I thought he played Really, really well tonight The offensive line is not You know, their best I mean, think about it You're starting left tacklers out You're back up left tacklers out You're starting all pro right guard He's out You're starting right tackle. He's out. So think about it. You're down. You're probably down to your backups to your backups. And at some point in time, you keep saying next man up, next man up. Well, the next man up needs to be making the equivalent of the guy that he's replacing. Because if you say, I got a guy that's making$15 million, and then you bring a guy in$400 ,000, there's a reason why one guy's making$15 million, Ocho.
10:42Shannon Sharpe:There's a reason why one guy's making$400 ,000. So we've got to read this notion, oh, man, next man up, next man up. there's a reason why he was down to begin with. Yeah. Yeah. I disagree with the call that Andy made because points are out of premium. At this point in time, the score is 10-10. We're late in the ball game, Mocho. I won't punt the ball because at that point in time, the Texans hadn't done anything in the second half. I think they might have had 50 yards in the second half. For the longest time, they were negative yards. Kansas City's defense had honed in. Spags had done a great job of dialing it up, stopping the run on first down, getting after C.J.
11:19Shannon Sharpe:Stroud, getting him off his mark. In that situation, I disagree with Andy, and I don't like to disagree with Andy because I think he's one hell of a coach, and his resume speaks for itself. But in a game like this where points are at a premium, I don't want to do an empty – if they do nothing offensively, they're in field goal range. Yeah. I can't make that call, Ochoa. I got to put this ball away. I understand I got Patrick Mahomes, and I understand he wants to go up and go for it, go for it. Every quarterback is going to want to go hell. he's going to want to go for it on 4th and 10, 4th and 12.
11:49Shannon Sharpe:But sometimes you've got to use your judgment. And like, you know what? Let's punt this ball. Let's force them to make a mistake. Let's not give them a gift. And I felt that's what they did, and that was really the difference in the ball game. But like I said, these guys, I mean, Mahomes was a little off. I mean, he had great – that's a hard play to defend, and you and I talked about it. With a running back, you see Marks, he caught a touchdown. He pretended like he was going to block. He slipped out. CJ flipped it to him because that's the guy that has it man. Well, he's coming on a blitz. I ain't standing there to block him.
12:25Shannon Sharpe:I'm just going to slip him and get to the flats. You see the guys, a lot of times those tight ends will be on the line. They helping, helping. Everybody's sinking. Now they drift out. The only thing I would tell no great, keep it up the field. Why are you going to get a headache? Did you see that linebacker drifting that way? Now, Mahomes threw a terrible pass. I would prefer you leak up the field and give yourself some room so you don't run into that headache that's in that middle linebacker that's waiting on you. But to make a long story short, and I know I made a short story long, the Chiefs aren't getting very good this year.
12:59No, absolutely not. And honestly, Mahomes, he was 14 for 33. He had three interceptions. He only threw for 160 tonight. Xavier Worthy had 355. If I'm not mistaken, he might have been their leading receiver. The fact that Patrick Mahomes was a leading rusher, that's not going to win you many games. That's not going to win you many games. You have to have some type of balance. They were one dimensional tonight for the simple fact that they couldn't run the ball. They haven't been able to run the ball all season long, honestly.
13:23Shannon Sharpe:And that's why, Joe, I felt that they should have gave up the second round pick or maybe even a first round pick for A-Chan. Yeah. Because is there a back that's coming out in the draft that you believe that's better than A-Chan that can run the ball between the tackles, can hit his head on the goalpost, can catch the ball out of the backfield? Because, I mean, Pacheco, I mean, Lord, have mercy. He get a hold. He runs right up the lineman's back. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? You look, and Kareem, I'm glad to see him back, but he's basically a power back. He's a three-yard and a cloud of dust guy.
13:54Shannon Sharpe:He's not a guy that you can consistently give the ball to and you hope to him to break something big. That's not what he is right now. He's a two - to three-yard carry guy. That's what he is, Ocho, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's a place for that guy that you know he can get you very, very tough yards. The initial, the first guy normally doesn't bring him down, But they need they need playmakers. They need guys that can help Patrick Mahomes out because at this juncture he can't do I mean He can't do any more than what he's doing he can't he can't yeah I mean guys guys gotta make amazing and when your quarterback and that's the thing when your quarterback isn't playing well You need guys that can step up and plays and he didn't get any help tonight.
14:33Yeah No, he didn't in the playmaker that we're speaking of honestly young I think as far as the receivers are concerned I think they're set there but Patrick Mahomes has to stop running the ball so much they need a premium back when I think about Brees Hall I think Brees Hall might have had a chance to go there before the deadline for trades that would have been perfect for them so a running back like a Jameer Gibbs I'm not saying there's another Jameer Gibbs out there but somebody like that Yeah, A-Chan, a running back like that that can actually hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere, and every time he does get the ball, you have the chance that something could happen.
15:16That takes some of the pressure off of Mahomes, not having to do so much with his arm all the time and always having to be Superman and make the plays that he's making.
15:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because the thing is, Ocho, sometimes in the West Coast system, the short passing game is an extension of the run. They need the run. They don't need an extension of the run. They need to be able to run the football, and right now they can. Now, the offensive line is beat to hell. And we understand that because, you know, your right tackle is out. Your left tackle went out. The guy that replaced him went out. So now you're down to your third guy at tackle who's an undrafted free agent. Now your right guard is out. Now you're down to your backup at right guard. So it's tough. It's tough. It's really tough.
15:55Go ahead. Yeah, I have a question. I don't know why his name is slipping my mind right now. The running back that used to play for the Kansas City Chiefs, he tore his ACL. but before he tore his ACL, he was fast. Jamal Charles? Jamal Charles. That's what they need. They need another Jamal Charles or somebody like that. I mean, man, listen, Jamal get that ball. If he hit that edge and get to that second level, the fat lady might as well sing. They need something like that. There's nothing like that in the draft.
16:25Shannon Sharpe:I don't think so either. So whoever and whatever they do get, it has to be an offseason acquisition. I have a good one for you right now. I think they need to do whatever they need to do in the offseason, they need to go get Alvin Kamara. Nah. They need to go get... Nah, not at this juncture of his career. Too many catches, too many carries on that body. He's not that guy anymore, Ocho. He's serviceable, but he's not that, Ocho. No. Breeze Hall... He's much... He's much better than what they have right now. But that ain't saying nothing, Ocho. You need a guy that you can really depend on. He's breaking down in Kansas.
17:01Shannon Sharpe:He's breaking down in New Orleans. do you realize how many touches he has on his body yeah yeah i know you realize how many how many touches uh derrick henry has yes yes look what he look what he did last year he's not the same this year and maybe that's because he's not getting the same opportunities as he got last year i think i i me personally ocho i think they need a little bigger back no they got cream hunt they don't oh jo stop it oh jo come on now we like we love kareem we We appreciate him coming on. Okay, wait a minute. You said a bigger back, but a bigger back can only do so much. A brief haul.
17:37Shannon Sharpe:They need that type of back. A guy that's big can run with power and run with speed. Okay, okay, okay. I see you. Everybody doesn't look. Jameer Gills, but they also have David Montgomery. You look at Green Bay. They got a two-back system. Josh Jacobs and they got 23. I can't get his name off the top of my head. Look at the 49ers. Brian Robinson Jr., Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey, yeah. The backs need to – they've got to do some soul searching. They really do. And I thought Kansas City defense played really well tonight. They weren't – I mean, there were some times that they got through and they couldn't get CJ on the ground and he made some plays.
18:18Shannon Sharpe:But see, that's what happens. When you bring pressure and you sacrifice your back end because, you know, once McDuffie went out, they're okay back there, but they're not great. No. They make their hay when that pressure can get there. If the pressure don't get there, guys are going to be running open. Yeah. You know what the bad thing about it is? It's for Spags having to make the adjustments with Trent McDuffie going out. When you do bring that pressure, McDuffie can lock down one side. He doesn't need any help. So you can bring all that pressure from the opposite side of the field knowing that Trent McDuffie is going to take care of his side.
18:54But once he goes out, hey, you're backing and basically exposed, which is why C.D. Stroud was able to make some of those plays despite him having to run for his life most of the goddamn time.
19:03Shannon Sharpe:You're right. You're right. But look, it's one of those years. This is what the Texas defense did in the second half. They picked Mahomes off twice. I mean, he went like, what, nine straight passes. The passes were either incomplete or they were intercepted. 28.6 completion percent rate, and they had almost a 42 % win rate. And when you look at it, the Houston Texans are now 8-5. They're in the eighth seed behind the Chargers. But they're a game back. They're a game back at Jacksonville. And they got three of their last four games are at home. They really do control their own destiny. Andy, we're going to talk about that.
19:50Shannon Sharpe:Daniel Jones is going to be lost for the season. They did him a disservice. They did him a disservice. the man's playing on a broken leg so when you play on a broken leg Ocho what do you do you compensate so when you compensate what do you do you weaken the other side of your body yeah yeah other parts of the body gonna compensate for that injury it's just it's the same way as your car if your tires is going flat and you don't change it you're gonna miss instead of just getting that child change that little donut you're gonna mess up the rear end yeah that's how the body the body was it's but when you start walking inside you know now all of a sudden something else you're gonna knock something else out of whack but we'll talk about that yes but give okay give the Houston Texas credit um they haven't had a whole lot of success Ocho going into Kansas City um and winning but they got the job done they needed to do uh they need to win this game give a D 'Amico Ryans I think he's a hell of a young coach he's doing an unbelievable job with this team he's got them playing extremely well um they're gonna be in every game because of that defense as long as the offense doesn't put them in harm's way they can get a little bit of consistency a little bit of consistency with the run game I think you know Nico Collins I think you know I think they got guys that can make can make some plays go ahead oh what happened to Joe Mixon yeah for the season he had an ankle injury or foot injury or something and so he didn't he didn't do anything at OT didn't do anything and in OTA this is something you know yeah he's done for the season.
21:21Okay.
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24:54Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Ocho, the Titans beat the Browns, but Shadour joined a very historic club during his third NFL start. Yeah, yes he did. He's the first Browns quarterback with 300 pass yards, three touchdowns, and a rush touchdown in the same game since 1950. he's also the seventh rookie in the Super Bowl era to throw for 360 yards have four total touchdowns rush or pass in the same game joining CJ Stroud, Joe Burrow Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota Andrew Luck and Matthew Stafford but despite got me frustrated because I'm I'm madder than a win hornet Stefanski took him out with the game on the line Ocho, what I don't understand yes sir when you come you're down 14 you score a touchdown you're at home why are you going for two yeah kick the PAT and guess what Ocho you're down seven now you score a touchdown and kick the PAT guess what Ocho we tied yeah I mean honestly there's no there's no there's no explanation behind what Stefanski is doing there's none there's none at all but what I can tell you is I can tell you that his job that his job is secured which is why he's making the calls that he's making there's no reason you got six minutes left in the game should do it goes down should do it goes down and he scores why go for two ocho tell me i just i need somebody to offer me an explanation when you down for there is you're at home yeah even if you're on the road you're down an even number why would you go for two because now if you get you now you you're chasing points you don't need to do that hold on for one as well as he was playing look at the numbers as he put up today, as well as he was playing all game long, right?
26:40You want to put the ball in your best player's hands that has a hot hand at the right time. Who is that? So if you are going to go for two, if you're going to make that decision to go for two, you put the ball in your quarterback's hands who just drove you down, not once, but twice on back-to-back drives to get you a chance to win the game or at least tie the game. I think, I was so confused by this, I had to make two phone calls. I had to make two phone calls to people who have been head coaches before just to make sure I can get a better understanding and get a better perspective and context on what was being made.
27:18But obviously, even though they're not coaching anymore right now, even though they're not a part of the NFL right now, the answers they gave me were PC. So they wouldn't give me what I really wanted to hear, and I'm not going to say any names. But Stefanski, I can't say anything about being fired because this is the reason why they didn't want Shadour starting in the first place. Because now you see what he's capable of. Because everybody said
27:41Shannon Sharpe:if he just started at the beginning of the season, what could we have been? And Unk, I mean Unk, this is exactly why they didn't want him starting. This is exactly why he wouldn't get any reps. Because they understood what you would get once he gets in there. And he gets acclimated to the system with his players. And he gets any kind of chemistry and continuity with that offense. This is what you get. And the stuff you pull in when you get after you score and taking them out. This is not college. You're not running trick plays. You're not going to fool anybody. The Wildcat is not going to work.
28:11This is not 2007. Ronnie Brown ain't back there. They're trying to run the Wildcat.
28:16Shannon Sharpe:They're trying to run the Wildcat. Look, the reason why the Dolphins ran the Wildcats is because their quarterback wasn't any good. You got a competent quarterback that's playing his ass off. I felt that he made probably one mistake tonight, Ocho, is that when he threw the ball up down the middle of the field when he was playing so well He didn't really need to do that. Yeah, and that's why I should do her you're playing so well You know, you're not supposed to just eat the ball up down the middle of the field other than that Ocho I thought this young man played extremely well He was balling a little game throw with touch.
28:46Shannon Sharpe:That's the one he dropped down in the bucket. Oh Man he dropped it in the bucket. Yeah good The world that he had that was given a fan in junior the one need to touch the jury jury Judy that he hit for 60 that basically was the same play that he missed, that he overshot him the game before. But he hit him this time. And I'm glad him and Judy got on that same page this week. I was happy to see that. But that goddamn Fennin Jr., he's the real deal. Every goddamn week, 44 popping up on film. You see that? Every week, 44 popping up on film. I don't know what they got. I don't know what kind of chemistry.
29:23I don't know if they stay after practice and they work together. But every time the ball is in the air, he got to have it.
29:30Shannon Sharpe:What about the touch pass that he threw? He was treating and threw the touch pass in Joku. Oh yeah. He has things that you just can't teach. He has things that you can't teach. Go ahead. Make your point. I was going to say, what he lacks in mobility, he makes up in so many other areas. When it comes to being able to extend plays, being able to play off script, being able to be accurate, being able to be accurate on the run, he's phenomenal at that. And the fact that he looks as good and only his third star, as bad as the Cleveland Browns team is, not defense, team is offensively, to have him in there and give them that spark to where now in each game, they're competing.
30:17Yes. They're competing week in and week out. And he's playing through his bull-jive coach. hey matter of fact maybe maybe maybe we can ask the chat even if you don't like Shadour you know even if you don't like the Browns can you please give me the explanation in the chat why you take him out two drives back to back with opportunity to get closer and put point when points are a premium in a situation like this where you want to win a game well I mean you but you would think the fantasy would want to win the game but some of the stuff some of the play codes you have and in situations like that you're putting your team in harm's way for me it was it was it's the taking
30:57Shannon Sharpe:him out going to the wildcat when your best player you know he needs to be on the field but what i don't understand i need somebody to explain to me why did he go for two points on the first time they scored a touchdown that's what i need to understand because at that point time ocho you don't need it you don't need it you don't know and then so let me give this So now we're down eight because we were done. I don't know what happened. Maybe Eagle had a rock and he dropped it on Stefanski's head. I don't know what happened. But so now we got to go for two. So we're going to take Shadour out and we're going to run wildcat.
31:38Shannon Sharpe:And the guy forgetting to pitch the ball.
31:43Shannon Sharpe:I'm thinking he was supposed to pitch it, Ocho. Yeah, he was supposed to pitch and he was supposed to come around. And I guess he was going to throw it. I guess somebody else was going to go out for a pass. I guess. I guess. I guess. I mean, at this point in time, we just like everybody else, we had a loss for words. I'm confused. The only way as a head coach, this is how I know a job isn't in jeopardy. This is how I know a job isn't in jeopardy. Because when your job is in jeopardy, you call plays that are conducive for you to look good as a head coach. and with a quarterback playing as well as he was playing, even if it wasn't Shador, a quarterback that has a hot hand like he had that game.
32:25You're not taking him out. No, you're not taking him out because your job is on the line.
32:29Shannon Sharpe:You're not taking him out. Your job is on the line. I need to do everything I can to show management and those that are in positions of power who can make the call on whether I stay or go. That's coming from up top, huh? Matter of fact, we can't even blame the coach. This is the same situation. Who's the reason? Who took the fall for Luka getting traded again? Nico. Stefanski is basically Nico Stefanski is basically Nico Collins Stefanski is taking all the heat but the call is coming from up above listen do whatever you need to do to make him look bad why are you not trying to win are you trying to tank purposely are you trying to make your team look bad purposely because that's exactly what you're doing because you have every Cleveland Brown fan every football fan scratch your head about the decision making you making as a head coach.
33:19Shannon Sharpe:I've had people reach out to me and ask me. They don't even really know football like that. Say why they take your door out. Cause I, they say, well, we asked, I'm gonna ask you because I know, you know, you played the game. You watched the game. You study the game. I said, I don't know. It's like, you know, something like that, but I ain't in Cleveland. I don't know. Hell if I do, I tweeted, it needs to be studied. they need a DOJ, Department of Justice I need y 'all to open up an investigation in what the hell is going on in Cleveland what the hell is Stefanski doing because it makes no sense even if you want to run the wildcat considering that your quarterback is playing at a he's on fire he's hotter than four foxes in a forest fire that's how hot he is Ocho and you take him out you take him out think about this Ocho you take him out to have somebody else throw a pass?
34:17Shannon Sharpe:Because that's what it looked like. If you was going to flip it to him, what was he going to do? Run it? Or he was going to run and pull up and throw a pass? So that's what I did. Listen, he was going to throw it to somebody. If Junkers, it flipped the ball like it was supposed to. Obviously, misdirection. You know how well misdirection works when you're playing against a defense. That's extremely aggressive. Extremely aggressive. You're hoping somebody misses assignment in a back or a receiver or a tight end, you know, leaks out and he's wide open. But it didn't happen. It didn't work that way.
34:49I want the ball that you do or me.
34:52Shannon Sharpe:I don't care. I'm going to go down and look. Hey, you brought me this far. You brought me this far. Yeah. If this is as far as you can take us, well, you brought us farther than I was. Yeah. I don't get it. I don't get it. I just told you. It doesn't make, hold on, Ojo. Here's what Stefanski said about going for two, that last two-point conversion. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Yes, sir.
35:25Shannon Sharpe:What was supposed to happen on that last two-point conversion? Yeah, not going to get into all the specifics, Jeff, but obviously it did not go as we thought it would. Did you make that call or did Tommy? Yeah, I make every call. I make every call. Why would you take him off? Yeah, again, it's a two-point play. Didn't come through on our first two-point play. Got to the second two-point play. We didn't come through, but that's on me. Was that play calling yours with Tom? I'm responsible for all of it. No, I thought you turned over play calling duties. Now, it's been reported. Mary Kay, I need you to let us know.
36:01Shannon Sharpe:Jump in the chat. Because it was reported that he turned the play calling over the time he reached, right? Isn't that the OC? so I know everything's on you and you don't want to get into it get into it what went into your thinking that when Shadour Sanders had led you back from 14 down he had led you back what made what went into the decision to take him off the field and potentially have someone else throw a two-point conversion what went into your decision coach hold on hold on not only have someone else throw the two-point conversion have someone else throw the two-point conversion that wasn't your quarterback that was on fire like he was playing NBA jams hold on a play like that in college I understand it yes I understand because they don't see it coming in the NFL it's not working that's a play for the movie the longest yard or maybe on Thanksgiving you got you in the goddamn turkey bowl that's what it's for or maybe the movie water boy that's when you run a play like that not with a game on the line that you're actually trying to win and compete like what are we doing I swear for God on my mama.
37:06Rest in peace. I had to call two of my former coaches to get a better perspective on what they were doing because you've been a head coach. Please explain to me. You've been in that position before. If that was you, why do you call a play like that? And of course they wouldn't give me an answer. They wanted to keep it PC. Like, come on, man.
37:27Shannon Sharpe:You should have been in that situation because you should have kicked the PAT to begin with. Why the hell you go for two on the first PAT? You're only down 14. You're down an even number. So why the hell are you going for two on the first PAT? If you just kick it, now you're down seven. Now you don't have to chase the second point. That's what makes no sense to me. Nothing. First of all, it didn't make sense. Who he started, he went with Flacco. Okay, fine. They said Dylan Gabriel. They drafted him in the third round. Okay, whatever the case may be. We can't go back in time, undo what's already done.
38:05Shannon Sharpe:But moving forward, the guy gives you a great opportunity to win. A great opportunity. He's playing his ass off. And you undercut him by taking him off the field. You undercut him by going for two when it's unnecessary. So I'm just trying to figure out, and I don't want to use the word sabotage, but I will say I'm trying to understand your rationale and your thought process, what goes into going for two the first time when you're only down 14, you kick the PAT, you're down seven. Okay, now you're down eight because you didn't get the first PAT, I mean the first two-point conversion. So now you're down eight, you've got to go for it.
38:46Shannon Sharpe:What goes into a rationale? After you see what your quarterback has done, why would you take him off the field and ask somebody that doesn't play the position, do you really, are you really, really trusting someone? That hasn't thrown a pass to throw a pass in that situation in that moment at that jump shot a game You really want to do that? Oh, so Is that really what you want to do chat? Hey, oh, no They doing that on purpose They doing it on purpose and it just it's just not this just just think about since training camp Just think about all the games. They've continued to play their organization has to continue to play, you know with Shador, just in general.
39:29They did not want young Bull to be a starter because they understood if he gets the opportunity to play, the numbers you see him putting him up, putting him up, putting up, him getting an opportunity to play, he's going to give them their best chance to win. They don't want to win. What they do want to win, they don't want to win with him behind center. That's the only answer I can think of for you to be pulling that kind of bull drive I saw out there today. As a former player, as a football fan, as a fan of the game, this is for anybody for any team for any quarterback you always want to put your quarterback and your team in the best positions to win because the whole that's the point of at the point of playing this game you want to win and that that shit i'm sorry that he pulled today was ridiculous um on the downside i was disappointed in and cleveland's
40:19Shannon Sharpe:defense rush defense tony pollard had 25 carries for a buck 61 had a 65 yard run had another long run, they've got to do a better job of stopping the run, and so now we can put more pressure on Cam Ward, but when you're second and short, you're third and short, it's hard to rush the quarterback, Ocho, when you're in short, down, and deep, because you don't know. They can run it. Now, if we got it second and long, we got it third and long, now we can unleash Miles Garrett. Now we can unleash some of these rushers, but I just need somebody to tell me. I need someone to explain to me, and And I need you to explain it to me as if I'm a seven-year-old.
40:56Shannon Sharpe:So it's like a kid going to a father, and he's asking him a question, father. That's what I need somebody to explain it to me. Because it makes no sense. Also, as guys that played the game, as a guy that studied the game, and that's what I do. I don't look at touchdowns. I'm glad they scored. I'm looking at how they scored. I'm looking at why they scored. I'm looking at what did the defense do. I'm looking at what play was called. what personnel were you in so I could have a better understanding and says okay I saw what this work but when you to do this it makes no sense yeah and can I say one thing also let's say the Cleveland Brown defense they've been playing they ass off all season they've been playing their ass off all season they've been stopping the run they've been stopping the pass so you know what you come to a game where now we need the offense when it was down 14 god damn it the offense showed up the offense showed up they showed up miles garrett gotta be pissed denzel ward dale pitt they have to be pissed because i know they see it i know if they i know if there was anybody was mic'd up i know on the sideline if you hear the defensive player talking they'd be like man what the hell are we doing what the hell are we doing okay they're running the ball on us now this is one of the few games we need our offense to have our back Long be motherfucking ho.
42:21The offense had their back. With a position twice. Two different drives. Drove down the field. We score. We go for two. What? We get the ball back. Go right back down the field again. And we do the same bullshit again. They got to be pissed. But they can't say nothing. They're not going to say nothing. They know it's some bull drive. But players in that locker room, they can't say anything. But they can see. Yeah. They can see clear as day. They know what's going on. They know what's going on. But if I can see it and I'm all the way down here in Miami, a thousand something miles away, come on.
43:00We know who can play and who can't play.
43:04Shannon Sharpe:We know who can play and who can't play. When you're in the locker room, you know exactly who can play and we know exactly who can't play. I don't care what coach does. I don't care how much money you make. I don't care where you were drafted. I know if you can play or not because I see you every day. They know Shadur Sanders can play. They believe in Shadur. The greatest thing your teammates can do is have a belief in you. Can trust you.
43:37I just
43:38Shannon Sharpe:it doesn't make sense. They say the only difference between truth and fiction is that fiction has to make sense. so when you're doing a story Ocho, fiction has to make sense because we know truth people do stuff that can't be true that's got to be AI and when I saw them go I was like hell if somebody would have told me I'd say that's AI I'm watching it in real time so I know it can't be AI because I'm sitting there watching it you got to be ishing me Stefanski This man, I think he's been the coach for five years, six years. He's a two-time coach of the year. Coach of the year, yeah. He's more than competent.
44:25Yeah.
44:26Shannon Sharpe:Which is how you know. But sometimes the smartest people are the biggest dummies. No, no, no, no, no. We're not going to make no excuses. He's not dumb. He's not dumb. He's not dumb. And this is not analytics. This ain't about numbers. This ain't about computers. This is what I like to call sophisticated tanking. They not fooling everybody. He ain't pulling the wool on everybody. My point exactly, because that's not the person they wanted to have. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho. You're tanking. For what? Do you think Mendoza, the quarterback at IU, is substantially better than Shadour?
45:05Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to think. Who else is out there? What other quarterback is out there, Ocho? I'm trying to think. Y 'all help us out. Do y 'all think any of the quarterbacks that you're saying, saying, excuse me, from Ohio State. Is there somebody that we're, Ty Simpson, Gunnar Stockton, is there somebody that we don't know that you think right now that going to come into the league and that would be substantially better than Shador? Are we forgetting what the owner said, the GM said? He was not my pick. This is not who I wanted. Publicly, those are the type of things that you don't say out loud. Those are the things that you think in your head that you tell those amongst you that sit up there in the seats with the ties and the jackets on.
45:50You don't say it in front of the camera. You don't. That is why things are going the way they're going. If. Unfortunately, you got to a situation where now he has to start. Yeah. Now he has to start. And there's a reason why you didn't want him to start because you understood if he got in there with ample time with the right reps, this is what you get. this is what you get when opportunity meets preparation this is the shit you get so what do we have to do on my end Nico Collins who is basically Stefanski right now in situation oh we go down on two scores I'm gonna go for two that ain't Stefanski doing that that's not him calling that that's coming from a higher power man
46:37Shannon Sharpe:Ocho let me ask you this you just watching the game I take the names out the back of the jerseys. I take the color. You colorblind and you can't see which quarterback I played the other quarterback today.
46:53Shannon Sharpe:You don't know the names. I took the names out the back of the jerseys. And you can't tell the colors. You don't know which one of the Browns and you don't know which one of the Titans. All you do, you're just watching the game. You don't know nothing. There's no sound. You watch the game just like I do. with no sound. Who played the best?
47:20Shannon Sharpe:Yes, you met Nico Harrison, not Nico Collins. Oh, my bad, Nico. Oh, my bad. If you just watch the game, the poison which you play with, yes, there's some habits he's going to have to break. That bubbling, it's okay for him sometimes to step up in the pocket. to step up as opposed to bubbling all the time. But look, he's a young quarterback, and that's going to come. I'm willing to give him another year or two. But I think he has the tools to be a very good quarterback in the NFL. I do. But I think he needs somebody that believes in him. I think he needs somebody in his corner. And I'm not so sure that the Browns organization is in his corner.
48:02Shannon Sharpe:I think they're playing it. I think the fan base is so in Shadour's corner. I don't really think they have a choice. I don't. I don't. They didn't see this. They didn't think he could do this. And the people that's hating on him didn't think he could do that. That's a damn good Titans defense. That's a damn good Titans defense. And he just threw for almost 400 yards. With four total touchdowns. Yes, he had a bad interception. But he played unbelievable. For his third career start. Hold on. I'll go back up here. The guys, hold on. Where's the guys that had thrown for, oh, Joe Burrow, number one overall.
48:48Shannon Sharpe:Andrew Luck, number one overall. Matthew Stafford, number one overall. Marcus Mariota, number two overall. C.J. Stroud, number two overall. Deshaun Watson, a top 20 pick. He just did what those guys did. Joe Burrow, number one. Andrew Luck, number one. Matthew Stafford, number one. Andrew Luck was number one Stafford was number one Joe Burrow was number one Three number one picks CJ Stroud was number two Marcus Mariota was number two So he just did something That three number ones Two number twos And a top 20 quarterback The only one that's ever did In the Super Bowl era I've been playing Super Bowls For longer than I've been alive And I'm 57 A fifth rounder did that He wasn't no fifth round talent You know that They knew that But Who they got next week Who do Cleveland play next week
49:54Bears
49:54Shannon Sharpe:They got the Bears In Chicago
50:01Bears still
50:04Shannon Sharpe:We got the work cut. Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals. Here are the quarterbacks that have played the Titans this season. Shadour Sanders has thrown for the most yards, 364. Matthew Stafford, 298. That's Davis Mills, 274. Justin Herbert, 250. Sam Darnold, 244. C.J. Stroud, 233. Trevor Lawrence, 229. Drake May, 222. Kyler Murray, 220. Bo Nix, 176. Look at that list, chat.
50:44Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Okay. Only got his throne for more was Daniel Jones. Matthew Stafford, number one pick. Sam Donald was a top three pick. C.J. Stroud was a top three pick. Trevor Lawrence was a number one pick. C.J. Stroud was number two. Kyler Murray was number one. Bo Nix was the top pick. Look at this. Look at all these guys up here and look at where they were drafted. And look at what this fifth-round kid did. And they bull-driving him.
51:15Sometimes, sometimes, you know, they say,
51:21Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, a man can make his destiny on the road that he took to avoid it. Sometimes I can make my destiny on even though obstacles you placed in front of me. it might take me a little longer it might have took me 10 weeks but I got there in spite of what you tried to do
51:45Shannon Sharpe:now that's crazy God say bow before me and I stand for you and if I stand for you can't no man stand against you
52:00Shannon Sharpe:I need somebody to tell me chat. Where y 'all at? I need you guys. Get on. What's that? Ask AI. Ask Gronk. What is it? Gronk. Ask Gronk. Why the hell did Stefanski do what he did? I need y 'all to ask. Ask chat GPT. Yeah, chat GPT. Ask chat GPT. What the hell was going on? Oh my goodness, Dylan Gabriel should be suspended for that bold face lie. He told it was fiance. Oh, man, I still can't believe this. I can't believe they did this, man. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if this man would have come back and won this game? Oh, Joe, what did man? They'd throw the ticket tape parade for this man in Cleveland.
52:50Um, he that's not, they didn't want that. They didn't want that. They didn't want that because if they wanted that they would have put him in position to do just that they would have put him in position to do that man yeah and he just he's still filling out the guys it seems like he has a great rapport with fanning jr uh but he hey man he was he was he was he was he was he was he was
53:20Shannon Sharpe:he was special today yeah hopefully this is something gives him a little bit more confidence I know he's a very confident young man. You don't be in the Sanders house without being confident because we know his dad has the utmost confidence, and I think he instilled that in his kids, and he's been a starter since high school. He started every game in college for the most part, and he knows he belongs. He knows he belongs. But sometimes it takes somebody believing in you too, Ocho, that's going to put you in the best situations. Keep your head up, Shador. You play jazz off the day. Copenhagen spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco.
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57:33Shannon Sharpe:After a critical 27-22 loss to the Steelers, many of the Ravens questioned the call made by the referees, notably an overturned touchdown reception by Isaiah Likely in the fourth quarter. The referee initially ruled Likely scored a 13-yard touchdown pass from Lamar Jackson, which would have given the Ravens a one-point lead with 2.43 remaining, despite the tight end losing the ball in the end zone. But less than a minute later, referee Alex Moore announced it was incomplete. likely had the ball punched out by Joey Porter Jr. before he made the necessary third step in the end zone. D hop tweeted and deleted NFL and officiated 13 years in his league.
58:14Shannon Sharpe:How many steps do you need in the end zone for a touchdown? It took me. I go. I'll let you take it. I'm just gonna say you know, you know, the rule. I know the rule. A catch for a catch to be completed. You have to take three steps. he took two and on that third one he got it down yeah the ball got punched out so technically if that was in the field of play or if it was in the end zone it was still would have been an incomplete pass i mean you know understanding the rules and knowing that he had he had possession but you have to complete the catch with momentum and take that third step um it's unfortunate and I mean they didn't win the game.
58:57Goddamn Aaron Rodgers was dealing today. Aaron Rodgers was dealing today. It wasn't just that play. I mean there were other plays that could have been made that could have changed the trajectory of that game for the Ravens as well but hell you got to get a stealer's credit.
59:10Shannon Sharpe:How many times likely are you going to get the ball punched out? Remember Ocho? He tried to switch the ball against Cincinnati and he got it knocked out. Now go back and look at the first touchdown that he got and see what he did. He secured it. you don't get style points for touchdown he was doing this all he had to do was secure it he had it just like this here why? because it looked cool how many times you saw him on Thursday's giving he did the same thing and got it knocked out and it was a touchback so how many times actions without consequences no lesson can be learned you would have thought the action that he had Thursday night on Thanksgiving would have taught him a lesson because it was a valuable lesson to learn because the consequences was it was a touchback and not a touchdown but guess what he didn't learn yeah trying to hold trying to hold that thing yes man grab it hey grab it man bring that thing in there I'll tell you one thing once you grab and bring it in and tuck it make it that much more difficult to get up out of there and make it that much more difficult to get about it.
1:00:21And you don't have to stress holding on to it that damn tight with somebody trying to fight through your hands.
1:00:27Shannon Sharpe:Chad, go back and look at the first touchdown. Go back and look at the first touchdown and see what he did when he caught it. He made sure he secured it. And wasn't nobody really around him. Now this guy's on his tail. He can feel it. Because you know, Ojo, you know when I broke away because I ran a little over angle. and the guy's already outside leverage so I know he's going to be driving hard. I already know that. Right. I don't get it.
1:00:59Shannon Sharpe:Lamar has some drops but Lamar's not throwing the football well, Ocho. He had Zay Flowers on a touchdown and he undershot him and he threw it behind him and the guy knocked it up, got it up. Zay was pointed like, put it out there. He had it. Rashad Bateman, he had a, it was fourth, I think it was third down. he hit him he dropped it yeah but lamar's not playing well y 'all know that it ain't no sense i'm not breaking news to you i'm not interrupting your normally scheduled programming breaking news to you lamar jackson isn't playing well he's just not and a lot of that has to do with your left guard he's terrible and i and i chat i i know sometimes my bluntness is not the best, but he's not good.
1:01:53Shannon Sharpe:That left guard is not good. I mean, he ain't... You shouldn't be allowed to be that big and that sorry. That needs to be a prerequisite. If you this big, you got to be good. This man, he can't block the sun out of his eyes, let alone a defensive lineman or an extra blitzer coming. let me let me what what number is he don't say 77 77 for lately okay for late yeah yeah yeah he for late fish for late yeah yeah i bet listen is on film he is always he's always at the scene of a crime and i mean no disrespect yeah that's him yeah on the on the games that i've seen is is is it's always him always the same one i think i think he's better at run blocking as a I'm thinking he better as a run blocker as opposed to anything that happens in the pass.
1:02:47Shannon Sharpe:Well, bring his ass in on fourth down. Fourth and one, fourth and two. But most of the way the teams are set up now, Ocho, you got to throw the ball at some point in time. Yeah. You got to throw it at some point in time. Yeah, that's his strength. There has to be a strength, you know, when it comes to the run because pass blocking, uh-uh. Always at the scene of the crime, every time. It's being reported that Lamar Jackson had a heated interaction on the sidelines with Daniel Falele after the interception per Tracy Wolfson. At this point, Ocho, let me ask you this. As bad as he's been playing this entire season, how bad must his backup be?
1:03:36Shannon Sharpe:Chad, y 'all need to help me out. if he's this bad he's so bad that you can't bench him how bad I need somebody to help me ain't no way the backup can be that bad cause if the backup that bad he ain't even a high school player
1:03:59Shannon Sharpe:I mean how you how you pass it and you don't block nobody yeah I mean to be that big I mean the sun rise up and the sun shining he can't even block the sun out his eyes Ocho sun blind him he just walked right into the wall because he can't do this yeah yeah he got he got his son he a big boy too now big and terrible he a big boy
1:04:27damn he's as big as he is sorry yeah you know that's your that's your team that lost too now
1:04:34Shannon Sharpe:Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Ocho. Hey, that's your team that lost, huh? Ocho, you know, like Coach used to tell us, hey, son, you can't be old and slow. Pick one. You can't be big and sorry. Right. Yeah, you got to have a struggle. Big one or another. You got to have a struggle. You can be small and sorry. You can be big and good. You can be old, but you can't be slow. you gotta pick one you can't be both b-o-f-f both he both he big and sorry for no reason yeah how you go out how you go out you go to the grocery store with your wife or your girlfriend how you go get gas in public yes i know damn well ain't nobody ever told him this year good game.
1:05:30Shannon Sharpe:They lied if they did. You go into hell if you told that man good game, you lied to his face. And he know it. Everybody know when they play like some stir fry. I mean, he's probably not playing with confidence right now. And the fact that if there was an altercation and you get into it with your quarterback, where your quarterback has to address you not doing well in a game, that will hurt your confidence even more. He hurt me! even more they put their helmet in my back that's hurting me
1:06:07Shannon Sharpe:he should have soccer started kicking him in his ass uh you know what he should have did when he been up with lamar walked up go up in the center kicked him in his tail yeah you know that really happens too you never see a quarterback really chastised his office no no they don't when they get hurt that that really really happens no matter how many times they get sacked to get hit that rarely happens so the fact that Lamar had to be really frustrated really frustrated for him to even address it in game because guess what how many times have because normally quarterbacks come on guys we got to do better than this now yeah yeah yeah most how many times during the course of this year chat do you think Lamar Jackson has said come on guys we need to pick it up hey come on hey come on come on uh hold on what his name is what's his name uh Daniel come on Dan Hey, come on.
1:06:56Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we're going to get him. We're going to be all right. Come on, Dad. We're going to get him. We're going to be all right. And, Bob Lamar, no, we're not. This man going to get me killed. What they should do, Lamar, say, you know what? I'm going to go play guard, and I want you to play quarterback, and I'm going to do to you what you've been doing to me. I ain't going to block a damn soul, and I want him to tear your ass up.
1:07:21Shannon Sharpe:We had that happen at Savannah State. guard didn't miss the block. Coach, I tell you what, hey, you get here. You get there. Let me see how you like it.
1:07:34Shannon Sharpe:That's embarrassing. At some point in time, you know what I'm talking about? At some point in time, you say, you know what? Damn this. You not been to whip my ass all day, every day. Don't you got some pride? Forget the Ravens. What about that name on the back? I was just going to say that. It's written in white. I'll give him sharper and darker than that. You don't know who this is. Put me in witness protection. That's on film. That ain't me. Man, you 77. Nah, that ain't me. That's on film, huh? That's on film. Everybody can see that. Oh, Lord have mercy. Like when all the teams you get to play, all the teams you get to play, oh, yeah.
1:08:18When we line up, we run our TEs and our stunts right there, right at 75. That's the fish. everybody got a fish on offense everybody got a fish on defense everybody has a weak link and the weak link offensively is young bull I mean that's every team has one it just so happens his is very glaring and it's noticeable every effing game you know what it is Ocho
1:08:44Shannon Sharpe:catch y 'all been fishing when you get a fish when you get him on the line what you can't do Ocho let him off the hook yeah Yeah. I don't want to beat him too bad early because I don't want to get it benched. Because see, if I beat him too early, they're going to bench it. See, I'm going to wait until the right time. I'm waiting until he gets to the fourth quarter. That's when I'm going to really start tearing his ass up.
1:09:12Yeah, I know Lamar frustrated, man. Me? I'm frustrated, and I ain't got hit in 20 years.
1:09:20and
1:09:21Shannon Sharpe:it was the 25th anniversary of the Super Bowl team they got letterman jackets out there boy you know if I'd have been out of the field you terrible why you ain't go huh long story I explained it to you man man, this joker got boy, this joker here. Yeah. This is why I couldn't coach. Well, actually, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Now, see, that's one thing about it. Now, God always has a calling, huh? And most of the time, he'll knock on your door, and the fact that you don't answer the door, maybe that's the problem. The fact that maybe if you were coaching, if you were coaching the Baltimore Ravens, then you wouldn't be playing like this.
1:10:12He probably wouldn't be playing like this. if hearing it from you would register better than hearing it from whoever his coach is right now. I get it. You heard it from Lamar.
1:10:23Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it's too late to hear from Lamar now. Chad, let me tell you something. In all my years, the quarterback rarely single out any offensive lineman individually. He always does it as a group. Come on, guys. We got to do better than this. Come on, guys. We got to pick it up. Yeah.
1:10:42I don't know. I'm just saying if you was my coach when I was playing I would listen to you I probably wouldn't have had no celebrations I would hand the ball right to the ref
1:11:00I'm lying
1:11:04Shannon Sharpe:me
1:11:08Shannon Sharpe:I'm a coach I don't know what's going to happen I really don't but I did make a recommendation that we cut you
1:11:19Shannon Sharpe:just so we clear
1:11:29Shannon Sharpe:that's my recommendation
1:11:34Shannon Sharpe:hey hold on a recommendation yeah that's what I recommended I don't know what's gonna happen because it's out of my hands but I did recommend this morning that we cut you. It ain't that many good linemen. He ain't one of them. So you're right. You're right. You're right.
1:11:56Shannon Sharpe:Per the broadcast, Lamar threw his helmet down after the last offensive series and then had a conversation with Daniel Falele who said they know it's coming every time.
1:12:12Shannon Sharpe:what also you got two options on the football field as an offense you can run it or you can throw it so they got a 50 50 chance of guessing what the hell you gonna do what you mean it ain't rocket science yeah if it's first second or third now what the hell you think they're gonna do oh they might put it oh they might let lamar kick it off they're gonna throw it or they're gonna run it those are the only two choices that an offense have on first second or third down and he's gonna talk about they know what's coming that all that all come down to want to huh that all come down to want to even if you know what's coming even if you know what's coming you ain't finna get past me if you do sack Lamar if you do get to Lamar it ain't going to be on me it's not going to be my fault I'm definitely not going to be the reason I will never be the problem I will always be the solution I mean that's just everybody's built different mentally that's my mentality I'm just saying if I played offensive line oh I'm not going to be the problem first of all if he's the solution what's the problem
1:13:30if he the answer what's the question it ain't that many it ain't that many linemen huh they you can't just pop them off trees like that it's hard for me to believe that there are linemen worse than what he is it's hard for me to believe that don't you i refuse to believe that well you you can't hide him no you can't hide him you can't hide him most of the time other other players other teams the way they're structured you can hide your fish you can hide your fish you can hide your weak link you know you can help your weak link double team you know run away from him when you do throw have protection slide his way i mean it's just
1:14:19Shannon Sharpe:There was a crowd of reporters waiting for Daniel Falele's locker, but the media policy is general not to talk to players before they're fully dressed. Falele was shirtless, took his shirt in his hand, nodded to the reporters, walked off. He did not return for questions. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. They win that game. You think he does this? No, probably not. Probably not. But understanding the questions that were going to come, especially with the incident with Lamar, he didn't want to say anything wrong. You've got to be as gracious in defeat as you are in victory. That's a part of it. Nobody is going to win every game.
1:14:57Shannon Sharpe:Nobody is going to play great every game. But a part of being a pro is standing there and facing the very tough questions. But see, when they ran for 300 yards, he stood there and looked down the barrel. Hey, anybody else got anything they want to ask?
1:15:16and you know what i i'm kind of glad honestly um especially when it comes to linemen you get into a feud with your quarterback you guys have a disagreement on the sideline i'm glad he didn't answer any questions because ain't no telling what he what he might have said he might not be media savvy he might still have been angry he might have said the wrong goddamn thing
1:15:34Shannon Sharpe:short of him saying i suck today i ain't want to hear nothing he had to say if that was the first thing that came out of his mouth and it's okay Ocho hey guys today wasn't my day I gotta be better I was not good enough today and although we are a team and we lost as a team I have to be better individually it's okay to say that it really is it really is okay to say that
1:16:04Shannon Sharpe:I've been the guy you know what We win as a team, we lose as a team. But Shannon Sharp has to be better. I'm counting on to make the plays that I left on the field today. I'm counting on to be a leader. I didn't lead today. I didn't make plays today. That's on me. I'll be better next week. That won't happen again. It's okay, Ocho. It's okay to not be good on a particular day. It's going to happen to everybody. But a part of being a professional, a part of being a pro, because he's a professional football player, a pro is when things don't go your way, you still look down the eye of that camera.
1:16:47Shannon Sharpe:And when they ask, you answer every question that they ask. What happened out there today? Guys, there was a rough one on me today. I wasn't good enough. I've got to be better. My teammates are counting on me. Lamar is counting on me. The fans are counting on me. and I promise you I'll be better next week. What happened? Nothing. The guy just beat me today. I just didn't have it. I know I got to get better. I don't have any – I can't tell you anything specifically that they did. It was what I didn't do. Yeah. I was lunging. My steps weren't proper. I stepped underneath. It's okay, bro. It's okay to have a bad game.
1:17:31Shannon Sharpe:But don't run. don't run because if y 'all had rushed for 300 I guarantee you you wouldn't have grabbed your shirt and nodded at the camera you'd have talked so you gotta talk in defeat just like you would in victory that's what makes us pros we don't hide we don't run we don't tuck our tails when things don't go our way yes Lamar stood right there.
1:18:09Shannon Sharpe:Ravens, y 'all. Tomlin's tenure to Pittsburgh is under microscope this week and would have gotten only worse had they lost to the Ravens. Ocho. Yo. Does them winning this game today, does that cut down on the rumors that Mike Tomlin or the Steelers got to make a decision on Mike Tomlin? Is Mike Tomlin going somewhere else? Does he want to go somewhere else? Do they want him to go somewhere else? Do you think that quail the noise of what's going on in Pittsburgh? Nah. I think once a rumor like that starts, you always know that rumor always comes from somewhere. I think regardless of what they do, I think they're probably going to move on.
1:18:46It's been a very long time since they've moved on from a coach. Most of the time they allow their coaches to leave on their own. But for a rumor like that to start, it has to come from somewhere. And it came from in that building. It came from in that building. So I think once the rumor starts and that fire gets to burning, I don't think there's anything that they can do collectively as a group or Mike Tomlin as a head coach that would change the decision that they're going to make at the end of the season. I think they're going to allow him to leave it in his hands to say, I'm stepping down, I'm stepping away from here for the foreseeable future, and we're going to go in a different direction.
1:19:24I think they're not going to fire him. I think he's going to probably step away and allow him go out on his own way.
1:19:30Shannon Sharpe:I don't think – me personally, Ocho, look, and Coach Tomlin, look, I think it's going to be hard for him to step away or them to fire him if he wins the division, make the playoffs. But you got to understand, Ocho, they haven't won a playoff game in a decade. Yeah. What makes you think they win one now? No. How many playoff games have they won since they won that Super Bowl? I know they lost one year to their Patriots in the AFC Championship game. But how many playoff games since they won that Super Bowl, Ocho, they beat the Cardinals? Mm-hmm. I think that was in Tampa. Yeah. I'm not sure how many they've won so far.
1:20:13I think they haven't been since – It would be Kansas City 2016. 2016.
1:20:18Shannon Sharpe:I think that might have been the last time. That's the last time. But I don't think they won more than two or three playoff games since they won that last Super Bowl.
1:20:27Yeah, it's hard, boy. Yeah, they lost the Super Bowl to Green Bay,
1:20:31Shannon Sharpe:and then they went to the championship game against the Patriots. What year was that? Okay.
1:20:43You know where Mike Tomlin kind of messed up, where he would be okay? If he had drafted a quarterback and didn't worry about Ben Roethlisberger, feelings drafted the quarterback early. He didn't. And you wouldn't have been searching for him right now because not having a quarterback has put you behind the eight ball and having to search and search and search. And that's one of the reasons why you haven't had the success you wanted to because you haven't found a quarterback yet.
1:21:11Shannon Sharpe:That's why Green Bay has prosperity because Green Bay was unafraid to piss the quarterback off. Brett Favre was pissed. He was pissed to the highest of pissedivity that they drafted Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers It was even higher. And they said, you know what? You better be pissed off than pissed on. So guess what? Keep it moving.
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