Nightcap Hour 1: Thunder ROLL Lakers in Game 1 + Pistons IN CONTROL of Cavs + NBA Ratings BOOMING + Jr Smith Gets TRAMPLED in New York

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15:32Shannon Sharpe:Learn more and get your Birdie 3.0 today at She'sBirdie.com. Steph, Draymond, and KD. Right. he was never this big of an underdog. That just lets you know what this team is up against. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, shoot. I mean, and I think we can agree to it, Joe. I think is that if they were to repeat, I mean, now we got to start looking at, okay, where are we putting this Thunder team? Against some of the greatest teams ever? Yeah, yeah, we're going to have to. Because they won, what, 64, 65 games last year. They had another 62-63 win season this year. They're going to have the back-to-back. They got the reigning, and they're about to have a back-to-back MVP, regular season MVP.

16:24Shannon Sharpe:They win it, they're going to have a finals MVP back-to-back. At some point in time, we're going to have to start looking at them okay. We know the 80s Lakers. We know the 80s Celtics, the late 80s, early 90s Pistons. We're going to have to start looking at them in a historical turn.

16:40Chad Johnson:I think it's going to depend on how they finish. Meaning, like, are they going to sweep through every round and get to the finals and sweep through the damn finals? If that's the case, Uncle Ocho, now we really got to have a real discussion. You know what I mean?

16:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

16:57Chad Johnson:Because they swept through the first round. Obviously, you know, this is one game, first game. But I think we all pretty think they're going to beat the Lakers unless Bron can go for one of them 50-point games. but

17:11Shannon Sharpe:no no no no he gonna need about two or three of them a one 50 point game is only gonna get you one victory you still need three more so he's gonna have to he's gonna have to have a 2018 season Joe where he averaged 34 8 and 8 and he had 840 point games he's gonna have to have a series like he had against Toronto a series like he had against the Phillies

17:31Chad Johnson:but he capable though like I thought tonight with him having 10 of the first 16 points I said oh shit bro I'm probably going to get at least 40 tonight that ai with 40 points you know that that that would have kept you in the game now i wouldn't anticipate austin reeds playing like this offensively you know him and marcus smart not making shots for real but man that give you a chance give you a fighting chance

17:56Shannon Sharpe:the problem is though joe as you get older you just can't sustain it you see man after like a couple of trips and that pace picks up you see how he walks up the court you see how his chest be up

18:07Chad Johnson:and down you can't yeah i'll be checking about i mean the mind will it but the body just i know man i know i know it's tough i i just figured with them having a few days of rest coming off that series i thought this would have been a great game for him obviously he was super efficient but probably go for one of them 40 point games man because because if i'm him i'm thinking yeah i want i want to get some of these other guys involved and hopefully somebody can have a breakout game and I can match him on our squad, but the rate he was going to start the game, it just looked so easy to me. I'm like, hold on.

18:44Chad Johnson:Damn, I know OKC is a pretty damn good defensive team, but he was making – He made it look easy, though.

18:51Shannon Sharpe:In matter of fact – Maybe J-Will because J-W is a little taller, so he might box, but Lou Dort is not tall enough. Lou Dort and Houston wasn't tall enough, and he ain't grown since he got to OKC, so he still ain't big enough. I mean, the way LeBron made it look at the beginning, Joe, you know, and I didn't have them win the series. I said maybe they would get a game, maybe two, because Oklahoma has too much to deal with offensively and defensively. I said maybe it got to be tonight's game because the Thunder had so many days off. It got to be tonight's game. And, man, them boys ain't missed a beat.

19:31They did, man.

19:32Shannon Sharpe:I mean, because think about it, they led a large part of the first quarter. Yeah, they did. And then what you call them hit them with a run, and now you go in, you down at the end of the first. And so this is what they do to you. The end of each quarter, they go on a little spurt. So now all of a sudden, a game that was close, that was tied, you down four. Okay, you back and forth, you back and forth. They go on another spurt to end the second quarter. Now you look up and you find yourself down like, damn. We down eight. You play good all the way through the third quarter, they go on another spurt.

20:08You look back up and start the fourth, we down 14 damn points.

20:12Shannon Sharpe:And we playing pretty good.

20:14Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's the crazy part. And when you look at it, the Lakers are not built to come from behind. They're not. Once they get down, it's like, damn, they get down by 10 or 12 points, I'll be thinking the game over with. They just don't have enough firepower. or I wouldn't necessarily say five power. They just can't get stops. They can't get multiple stops against this OKC team.

20:38Shannon Sharpe:That's the problem, Joe, is that they don't have the defenders that you can turn up the intensity and get. I mean, LeBron played the passing lane and got a steal, you know, got a steal. But they didn't get a whole lot of runouts. And you got guys that can handle the ball. So it's not like a Houston where guys, you see when they was down game three and they got six points in the final 30 seconds because they don't have guys that can handle the ball. But in a situation like what they were dealing with tonight, Shane can handle the ball. They got ball handling in that situation. So it's just going to be tough.

21:12Shannon Sharpe:I mean, they got to basically go into the fourth quarter up a couple of points and then get it to clutch situation. The last two minutes, they still need to be up five points. in the last two minutes. Yeah. Hey. Because, look, they just don't have enough. Jared Vanderbilt suffered a full dislocation of his right finger. Pershams, Lakers lose game one, but Vando tonight, no timetable is set for a possibility of his return. Man, the next game. Huh? Man, if he don't wrap that thing up right here next to that finger, man, they go play some ball? And plus, it's his right hand. is not his shooting. He left him.

21:58And maybe that would have helped.

21:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he good. Because he's shooting, Joe.

22:02Chad Johnson:Yeah. Okay, Ojo, he ain't played for six minutes. It was like he out there raising some hell now.

22:09Shannon Sharpe:Exactly. So how much are they going to miss him? Right, right. Yeah, man. Hey, Joe, man, take them two together right there, man. You're going to be just fine, man.

22:21Chad Johnson:See, the thing is, though, in basketball, even when you tape them, They going to get hit because that's just part of the game, trying to rebound, grab the ball, using your hands for defense. It's just so much. So I know it's going to linger, but he ain't no offensive guy, man. He a body that they need, that energy and effort. That's what they need for him. So I'm sure he'll be playing next game. I can't see him sitting there.

22:45Shannon Sharpe:Well, you know that's what we do, Ocho. We take the fingers together. People don't realize how hard it is to catch a ball when you can't spread your fingers. because you used to being able to do this and now all of a sudden you're doing that. And just that little bit throws it off. But I played with a thumb guard because I dislocated my thumb one time. So I played with a thumb guard.

23:08Chad Johnson:You never know how important that thumb is, boy, until you hurt that man. Boy, yeah, until you can't use it.

23:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you ain't got to tell me nothing. Try brushing. Try doing anything without the thumb. Your thumb be hurting. You try to brush your teeth like this here? Hey, you tried to shower with your football fans.

23:27Chad Johnson:They throw them in their damn big toe, boy.

23:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Hell yeah. But the Lakers lose, even though the OKC did not play their best game, they still find a way to win by 18 points. Let's you know just how talented, how good this team is. When you can play subs by your standard, subpar basketball, and still win by damn near 20?

23:52Chad Johnson:You're a damn good, yeah. You legit. Yeah. You legit. I agree with them boys.

23:57Shannon Sharpe:SGA had 18 points, which is the first time he scored under 20 this season. The last time SGA scored under 20 points was in game three against the Denver in the 2025 play game. So damn near a whole year.

24:11Chad Johnson:He had seven damn turnovers too. I'm telling you, that defense that they played, bro, it confuses you, man. You look at statistically, you look at Kevin Durant's turnovers. Hell, how many he had? He had eight, nine damn turnovers. He had nine, I think. He had nine one game. Because it scores, bro. The last thing you really want to do is get up off that damn ball. You know, guys who like to score the ball, bro, they're going to hold on to it as long as possible to see, are you going to continue to bring this trap? And I thought it confused Shea a few times, obviously because he had seven turnovers.

24:46Chad Johnson:I think the Lakers got a good strategy defensively, Uncle Ocho. They just got to find a way, bro, to string some stops together so they can stay close. Once they get down by 10 or 14, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. And you got the offense to be able to crawl back into the game. You don't.

25:09Shannon Sharpe:And the problem that they have is that they turn the ball over, Joe, and they take some ill-advised shots at times. I'm looking like, Austin, why would you take that shot? I'm like, and then I'm looking at like Rui, I'm like, and I thought Rui played okay today. Yeah, he did. I really did. I thought he made some big-time plays. But I'm like, that's not the shot that we need right now. Yeah. You know what? Because all you're going to do, they already got the momentum. And I guess sometimes, Joe, you want to quell some of that momentum, so you want to come right back at them. You hit them right away.

25:44Shannon Sharpe:If you miss, now they right back at you. And what was the 10, 9, 12? And then this thing, you know, that crowd started going crazy. And they never was really able to overcome that. Go ahead, Ocho. What do you want to say? I was going to say it all comes down to shot selection. You know, when you're in a situation like that, you know, being confident and being able to get to your spot instead of just taking an ill-advised shot because they hit one. Now you try to go down and get one. But let's not get it from three. Man, put the ball in the flow. Take somebody to the hole to try to get yourself back into the floor of the game or get yourself back in rhythm instead of just shooting them goddamn shots up like that.

26:21Chad Johnson:Hey, shots come far few in between against this OKC team. So when guys see a crease or an opportunity, Arkin Ocho, hell, they trying to get one off. Hey, hey, them boys sitting down, man. They guarding. They got great guys who play individual defense, but they are great defensively. They're a great team defensively. So it's going to be tough. I think they're going to always make it tough on Reeves and Smart. They got to find ways to continue to be effective. Obviously, we know Smart will, but they got to find a way to get Austin Reeves into a rhythm, bro. ASAP.

26:58Shannon Sharpe:And DA's going to have to stay in the game. He's going to have to just keep his hands up and not foul because it really hurt because I thought he was playing really good. He was hitting the turnaround jumper. He's doing great on the glass. He was challenging shots. but when he goes out, now that's a big body that you don't have in the game. And at least you can give him the ball. He'll face it up. He can shoot the little six - to eight-footer. That's not Jackson Hayes' game. Jackson Hayes is the lob, put-back guy. And if he's not getting those, he has some turnovers, some ill-advised turnovers tonight.

27:34Shannon Sharpe:But, look, it's one game. I'm not so sure it's going to be. It might be much worse. What is that? Thursday? Hey, which game you going to? You're not going to submit yourself for that type of? No, I'm going to game four next Monday. Okay. So that's like the game they might get swept in. That might be it, Ocho. Damn. And the thing is, hey, Ocho, man. Every time I've seen the Lakers play OKC, they lost. Hey, how about you just don't go? I thought about it. Yeah, just don't go. He just went. When LeBron broke the scoring record, they played OKC. They lost. How was that in that game? I mean, he had like 30.

28:27Shannon Sharpe:I think he had like 36, 38. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He sent me that ball. Hey, but you just went to a game and they won? Yeah, but not when they play OKC. Hey, it's two teams. When I watch them, hey, Memphis. They beat hell out Memphis, be it playoffs, be it regular season. Right. Who else? They beat the Hawks. I saw them beat the Bricks off the Hawks, too. Oh, okay. Lakers. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I haven't seen them have one of those, like, I was almost going to go to the game they played. It was a Saturday game, and they played the Warriors. That was the game, Joe. He dropped 56.

29:10Chad Johnson:I was like, damn it.

29:13Shannon Sharpe:I knew it.

29:16Chad Johnson:He going AA.

29:17Shannon Sharpe:I just knew it. I mean, he was having an unbelievable season that year. That's the year he averaged 30.

29:25Chad Johnson:AA.

29:26Shannon Sharpe:And him and Joel Embiid was going back and forth for the scoring title. The Pistons beat the Cavs 111-101. Cade Cunningham had 23. Tobias Harris kept up his hot streak. I got it. He had 20. Duncan Robinson shipped in with 19. Every woman knows the feeling. That quick glance over your shoulder in a parking lot. The moment you grip your keys a little tighter walking home. That's exactly why She's Birdie created Birdie 3.0, a personal safety alarm designed by women for women. Just pull the pin and Birdie sounds a loud, attention-grabbing siren. We are talking as loud as a jet engine at 100 feet to help deter danger and alert people nearby.

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30:54Shannon Sharpe:Well, we know LeBron was a part of that. Game two is Thursday night in Detroit. Donovan Mitchell scored 23 points, ending his NBA record streak of scoring 30-plus points in nine straight series openers. Jared Allen was limited to two points and three rebounds, coming off a 22-19 performance in an elimination game against Toronto. I thought that was really the difference in the ballgame.

31:19Chad Johnson:Yeah.

31:20Shannon Sharpe:Is that he really didn't give them anything. Joe, I need you to help me out. What is it with Harden and these turnovers?

31:26Chad Johnson:Man.

31:29Shannon Sharpe:What, he got 43 in eight games? He got 43 turnovers in eight games, Joe. What, he had seven at night, huh?

31:35Chad Johnson:Hey, listen. Do y 'all see the pressure that them boys putting on him? Everybody know now. You know what it is, Uncle Ocho? They pick his ass up full court. They wear him down, bro. That's what they do. And you know Detroit? Look, his greatest Cade is offensively, he's one of them guys who pick up full court. You look at Amon Thompson. Asua Thompson. He's a guy who pick up full court. Their youth comes into play. Hell, how old is James?

32:06Shannon Sharpe:They got to be like 34, 35, 34, 35, I'm assuming.

32:10Chad Johnson:35, 36, but yeah, them young boys picking up full court, making them work. Yeah, they making them work, Uncle Ocho. They making them work. So, you know, hey.

32:21Shannon Sharpe:They making Donald Mitchell work too.

32:23Chad Johnson:Yeah, because, hey, look, at one point, neither one of them was really playing well. I think they was able to get back in the game here. They tied the game in the fourth quarter, and then Detroit took off on another run. But I just, I don't know what it is about Cleveland. I mean, Jared, I mean, Allen coming off that huge game, and then how he come out here and give you this? Two and three. Come on, bro. That's it. Did he get hurt? Because he only played 18 minutes, but damn.

32:52Shannon Sharpe:And looking at his numbers, that was 18 more than he should have played.

32:55Chad Johnson:Right. I think what happened, Struis came off the bench, and he caught hot. He caught fire. Maybe they were playing Mobley at the five a lot. But I think, you know, Strux came in, gave them great energy. Schroeder did too. Cleveland, they got enough to win. They just can't get consistency from certain guys. The bigs. Yeah, they can't get – you need your bigs. Well, if you really think about it – go ahead, Joe. You need your bigs. Them bigs, Mobley and Allen, you need them to consistently be dominant. Okay, Ojo, you need them too, bro.

33:31Shannon Sharpe:They should be with those two guys together should give you somewhere between 30 points and 20 to 28 rebounds a game between the two of them. Yeah. You got two seven-footers. Yeah. They should own the glass. They got 12 rebounds between the two of them. I agree. They got 16 points between the two of them. That's not enough. and considering they only playing with one big, they played him with Durin. So that means Tobias or somebody else got to take Mobley. Mobley, with Tobias Harris on you? You simple? Hey, it's legit. But hold on. Only one of them is an offensive presence, though, Unc. Jared Allen more of a defensive presence.

34:23So having, I mean, between the two of them, having him 30, I mean, Allen might give you a game like that what, every so often?

34:32Shannon Sharpe:He should be, Joe, even I'm not counting on him because I'm not running play for him. But I don't think it's asking an awful lot for him to give us 12 points a night. I don't know. Only to give us 18. I don't think that's too much. No, it's not.

34:45Chad Johnson:It's not. And when you look at it, Detroit didn't even really play great. No! And for them to win like this, Like I said, I think we're like four or five minutes left on Ocho. It was a tight game. I seen Harden at the line shooting two free throws. But I don't know, man. You know, Cleveland got to find some consistency somewhere just to get a game. It's going to be tough to beat these boys because they've been tried and tested in their first round. You know, sometimes they'll wake you up.

35:17Shannon Sharpe:Tonight with James Harden's 181st playoff game of his career, It was the 45th playoff game that he's had as many or more turnovers than field goals, which is exactly 25 % of his career postseason games. He's turned the ball over as many or more times than he's had many field goals. Yeah. Man, they keep track of all that.

35:45Chad Johnson:Absolutely. Hey, hey, hey. Damn. He got a tone that down. I'm saying he has to tone that down because the turnovers that I seen that he had, bro, they led to points. They led to points, and you're right. He has to find a way to cut that down to about two, maybe three. You know, in order for them to even stay in the game in this series, bro, them turnovers, man, these young teams going to fuel off that. Yeah.

36:14Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But you know what I know? But here's the thing that he's running into, Joe, and correct me if I'm wrong. See, when he's in Houston, he had to do a lot more. Bro, you with a better team now. Even when you were the Clippers, you with a better team. You shouldn't have to think that I have to do more because you have more help. He's still thinking he's in Houston where he doesn't have the help that he has now on Cleveland, that he has with the Clippers, that he had with Sixers, or he had with – let that sink in. Yeah. 45 of his 181 games in the postseason, he's had as many turnovers or more than made buckets.

36:57Chad Johnson:Yeah.

36:58Shannon Sharpe:That is James Harden, one of the greatest scores this game has ever seen. Joe, we were having conversations just five to six years ago. Who's a better one-on-one scorer? James Harden, Michael Jordan, or Kobe Bryant. We were having serious discussions. Not just us. Everybody was. Yeah. Because we watched James Harden go 25, 30 straight games or giving you 30. He was the first guy with a 60-point triple-double. We watched him just go crazy. And we're like, have we ever seen? I'm talking about ISO. Have we ever seen anybody? That's a better ISO score than James Harden?

37:44Chad Johnson:Maybe not, bro. Not.

37:48Shannon Sharpe:But we get him in the playoffs. We saw him against the Warriors. I think he got the record. I think he got 14 turnovers in a game, Joe. How many playoff games does he have double-digit turnovers? I think he got like five or six, which is crazy. Unless you – And I understand he's going to have a high usage rate. He's led the league in usage. He has the ball in his hands. But when you turn the ball over that much.

38:20Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's going to be hard to win. And you know what's crazy is James is a great off ball. He can play off Donovan Mitchell. He can play off the ball. It ain't like he can't catch and shoot on the Ocho. He can catch and shoot with some of the best of them. But the problem is that what you have is once a guy like that gives the ball up, I'm face guarding him, bro. Y 'all playing four on four. So he understands that's going to keep him – he ain't going to be engaged in the game if he just continue to play off of Donovan and Mobley and Allen. So he – you know, certain situations he kind of force it.

38:55Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? So I think he has to find a happy medium in that. And they got to find ways, man, to take some of that pressure off of him,

39:02Shannon Sharpe:get him some easy baskets because he'd be forcing –

39:07Chad Johnson:up out there from time to time.

39:10Shannon Sharpe:But here's the thing though, Joe, and it's really hard, and I think you got to give LeBron some credit. When you used to having the ball, James Harden has had the ball in his hands for a decade. And now you ask him to give it up and play off of it. It's harder than you think. It's like being a number one receiver and all of a sudden, don't you, they say, well, go to number two. Or go to number three. What you mean? Hold on. What you mean I ain't the first read? Whoa, whoa, whoa. I used to hear it hold up, I'm used to hearing X dig. I'm used to hearing you tag something. Yeah. I'm here to you say Z out.

39:45Shannon Sharpe:Whoa, whoa. Hold up. Now you said X dig, Y shallow, Z out? That means I'm third? Right. So that means if Ocho is available, so that means that if he's available, I ain't getting the ball. But if he's not available, and here come the Y, I still ain't getting the ball. Whoa, whoa, hold on. Time out, man. it gets hard. People don't understand. And people are like, oh, it'll be eaten. No, it's not.

40:11Chad Johnson:Right.

40:12Shannon Sharpe:When you've been the man, and all of a sudden you're not the man. Hey. Because guess what, Ocho? All they still see is Harden on the back of that jersey. They see 13 or whatever number he is, and they expect you to do exactly what you're doing, even though you don't have this ball in your head to be able to do it. Right. How do you expect me to get you 1 ,500 yards and I'm catching 50 passes down from my ninth?

40:39Chad Johnson:The hell? Hey, they got to take – see, taking the ball out of his hand, it's going to take his usage rate down. Yes. Which is going to take his scoring down. And now everybody's going to be like, oh, damn, well, this ain't the same James he used to be. Well, of course he's not. He's playing on a much better team. Now he's probably just giving you 19, 20 points a game versus giving you 27, 28. But damn, your usage rate ain't the same, bro. We don't need that.

41:08Shannon Sharpe:But guess what, Joe? You give me 45-50 with seven turnovers, I'm overlooking that. What turnovers? I ain't see no turnovers. Now, Joe, you give me 19 points and you got seven turnovers, I'm looking at your stuff with a microscope.

41:23Chad Johnson:Yeah.

41:25Shannon Sharpe:So for so long, he put up those gaudy numbers. Man, you ain't even thinking about no turnovers. It's kind of like Luka. Luka has a high turnover ratio. But he's so proficient at scoring the basketball, man, damn, damn them turnovers. Right. And you don't really think about them until they late in the ballgame or they cost you a game. And then you're like, well, damn, Luka had this many turnovers. But you wasn't saying anything when he had dropped 45 at that point. And so I think that it's hard for Jay. It's hard to reinvent yourself. when you when you've been this way one time what basically since he left uh okay see he's been the

42:06Chad Johnson:guy yeah and he's been the guy he's used his all his offense has been his defense on the ocho because he could outscore anybody he's played against but but but now you know with that toning down a little bit hell man hey you gotta sacrifice a little bit you know you you say you want to win your numbers may not look as gaudy as you would want them to. You know what I'm saying?

42:31Shannon Sharpe:No, but that's the sacrifice that comes along with it. You have to be willing to give up something. And, you know, KD going to OKC, excuse me, going to Warriors. Even Steph. Steph sacrificed his game. KD sacrificed some of his game. Klay, now all of a sudden he went from the second option to the third option.

42:51Chad Johnson:Yeah.

42:52Shannon Sharpe:But in order to win, if I'm trying to win a championship, if my goal because everybody says they want to win a championship right but a lot of times joe they want to win a championship their way i want to win this championship but i still need to get my 32 i ain't trying to get 24 because y 'all ain't gonna do me the same and you know what and you know what uncle joe that add even more pressure not only is it the playoffs right yeah then we taking the ball out your hand then you got the now you're worried about turning the ball over and then on top of that you got to be efficient because you ain't got the ball being able to to shoot like you want to, like you did before.

43:27Shannon Sharpe:That is correct.

43:29Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, look.

43:31Shannon Sharpe:But he's aggressive. I mean, think about it. He went to the free throw line nine times. Donovan Mitchell only went to the free throw line twice.

43:38Chad Johnson:Shot to a free throw. Oh, you know, can't nobody seek out contact better than James Harden. You know, you watch the game. I'm talking about he uses your aggression to his advantage. Every time. I'm talking about every time. You make a mistake on defense, he gonna make your ass pay. He gonna capitalize. You come out there with one of them wild ass clothes out trying to stop me. Yeah. I'm going right by you. We touch shoulder to shoulder. I'm coming up through like this.

44:06Shannon Sharpe:Yes. So. Hey, don't be reaching out when he out there like this here because all he gonna do is reach.

44:12Chad Johnson:He has mastered craftiness. He's super crafty. Hell, he a lefty. He already got an advantage. We know how lefties are any damn way. We feel like they got an advantage. All of

44:23Shannon Sharpe:I ain't never seen one that wasn't crafty and scored in the basketball. So I think James got to figure it out.

44:29Chad Johnson:Hey, I got a question. Do you think he still got it in him to give you a game where he go for 40?

44:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he can. Yeah, I believe he could. I still believe he have it in him. Yeah, I think he can give you a game like that. He can rewind the hands of time. We saw it in Philly. When he was there in Philly, he gave you that 50-point game. I think it was what, game six, game five, game six. We've seen him have a monster game. What's his highest output game with the Clippers?

45:01Chad Johnson:I wonder –

45:07Chad Johnson:it's going to be hard to do that against this Detroit team, though.

45:11Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. Because they got – I mean, because you got Cade or you got Thompson on him. Yeah. And both of those guys are elite defenders.

45:20Chad Johnson:Yeah, man. And they ain't giving up nothing easy, neither. Nope. I'm talking about it's so physical out there just to run a pick and roll. So let alone trying to score 20 points. I don't know if he can give you 40 in this series. It'll be tough. He going to have to be hot as fish grease. But I'm talking about...

45:38Shannon Sharpe:Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's up? What's up? You say give you 40. I thought you said could he give you 40. I thought you talking about like an 80-point time. But you talking about this series? Yeah.

45:46Chad Johnson:That's what I'm talking about. He going to need one in this series. Oh. oh he can summons it up once especially if his shots start falling early he definitely can summons it up once

46:00Shannon Sharpe:but the thing is you know I look at Paulo and how Paulo gave you 45 Paulo was doing it in a way the mid he was going his three ball was going I mean he got like three and ones back to back to back and then they play up off him and now they drop off him and now he pull up with the three. He just had one of those – he's just having one of those out-of-bodies. I don't – Hey, man. I think he can give you 30. I think he can give you a game where you get 30 and 10.

46:32Chad Johnson:I think that's possible. But, you know, what I see is James Harden foot speed, it ain't fast as these guys for the Pistons, man. You know, like he crafted enough to get by you and get a foul, But if you're telling me he can go 12 or 16 or something like that, that's going to be tough, man.

46:51Shannon Sharpe:That's going to be tough. I don't know about that.

46:53Chad Johnson:It's going to be tough.

46:54Shannon Sharpe:His highest scoring game with the Clippers is 32. He got 33 and a 32, and one of those was an overtime game.

47:03Chad Johnson:With the Clippers, that was it? That's the highest he ever scored with the Clippers?

47:06Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. But he did have a 50-point playoff game in Philly, right? Yeah, he did. I'm saying like 245, 244. Okay. Yeah, he had like 245, 244. And that was against Boston. Remember he rewinded the hands of time back against Boston. Had everybody that, oh, James, James, James. And then he came out there that game seven and gave you like eight points.

47:31Chad Johnson:Hey, you talking about Bruin do a lot of walking. I be checking James out too now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he be out there chilling. You know, see, here's the thing. When you know the play ain't for you, you just kind of just, you know, You just walking around. You just out there here. I notice that a lot. I notice that a lot because when the play for you, you in another gear. When it ain't for you, Ocho, you out there.

47:54Shannon Sharpe:You give me that false ass. Ocho, how we do when the rock, they call our number? We sprint out the whole lane with Ocho. Hey, man. Sprint. I'm down there getting a delay of game. The play ain't for me. I'm like third in the progression. I'm down there getting a delay of game, getting to the line. He's like, hey, come on. Hey, you getting the ball. You give everything away. and you all hype and happy. Hey, you get into the line, you know, re-strap your glove. Yeah.

48:20Chad Johnson:Hey, the hell, the man guarding you, he know the damn play for you. Damn, Sharpie. Or he knows, he knows it's coming.

48:28Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing, plus Joe, I know Joe, I think the thing with Bron, Bron be so hyped early, especially if he get a basket, and the next thing you know, he get a steal, or they in transition, he laid up. But, I get your practice, look at game three. You say I ain't starting out, up and down, up and down, then all of a sudden.

48:54Shannon Sharpe:You gotta, hey, you gotta pace it. But it's hard. It's hard. Cause people don't realize like, when you run it, when you run it around, you don't breathe. You like. Like,

49:07Chad Johnson:people like, thank you. Yeah, nah, yeah, nah.

49:15Shannon Sharpe:Ain't no breathing going on. But he's got to do a better job, though, Joe. He's just got to do a better job taking her to basketball, and their bigs got to do a better job than what they got. Hey, come on, man. I can't get no damn 16 points and 12 rebounds from my two bigs. I got two seven-footers. They got one.

49:33Chad Johnson:I know, man. Cleveland got to do better. I mean, this is carbon copy of what we've been talking about, you know, being consistent, being big. I mean, I think Mobley got the talent, Uncle Ocho, to where he can get you 22 to 25 a night. I think that should be a given, bro. Considering the talent that this kid got, he's just not aggressive a lot of the time. You know what I mean? It's kind of like he defers a lot to Donovan and James Harden, and you don't need to, bro. He got to be aggressive. He has to be one of the guys. He got to feel like he is the guy. Yes.

50:09Shannon Sharpe:And it's just hard, Joe, when you're a young player and you've got veteran players. James has been an all-star. He's an all-NBA. He's an MVP. Donovan's been an all-star in an all-NBA selection. It's just hard for a young player to say, you know what? Hey, it's my time now. Hey, shit. They got to insert themselves, especially when the two veteran players not shooting well, they not efficient, shoot, you take the lead.

50:40Chad Johnson:But maybe you're not allowed to do that. No, you can. It just depends on your demeanor. He just doesn't have that type of game, and it's just not his mindset. You know, it's like he a great piece to a team, and he occasionally, you know, had these monster games. But when you look at him and you watch him play, you're like, I mean, here, look at tonight, bro. he was the highest plus minus. He was a minus damn 18 tonight. Dang, you can't have that from your big. You know, not one of the guys who you're relying on, not, you know, for scoring and defense. Like, he's a guy who you can go to. Hell, he scored in the last series.

51:18Chad Johnson:They went to him at the end of the game. You know what I mean? It ain't like.

51:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, in game six, the overtime. Yeah, they went to him.

51:25Chad Johnson:And, you know, he made a strong move, scored with the left hand. I just feel like he has to assert himself a little more.

51:33Shannon Sharpe:I agree. I agree, Joe. But I think the thing is is that this Joe can hear it, man. I'm like, bro, you two.

51:44Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. I don't know what it is about Donovan Mitchell's game is that – and like I said, it's one game. Let's see how it plays out. Yeah. We've kind of seen this movie, man. I don't know what it is about him. but it's look Joe when you really think about it it ain't been a whole lot of small I don't know how tall is Donovan

52:05Chad Johnson:yeah 5-6-3 yeah

52:07Shannon Sharpe:they've only been if you really look at it they've been really two guys that have been 6-4 under that lead their team to championships that's D-Wade that's Steph Curry all the others have been big ass guards Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant Michael Jordan Yeah. Guard let and Isaiah Thomas. I take that back. Three, Isaiah. So think about that in the history of the game where you getting a guard that's leading your team to a championship.

52:38Chad Johnson:Hey. It's only been done by three in the 80-year history. Well, Donovan's comparison.

52:46Shannon Sharpe:Donovan? Donovan 6 '2". Yeah. 6 '2".

52:50Chad Johnson:That's it? He play big though, bro.

52:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, oh, he got bunnies.

52:55Chad Johnson:He got bunnies and he got long-ass arms. I don't know if y 'all really pay attention, but the basketball players, when you short like that and like Donovan, okay, if he's 6 '2", 6 '3", he got about a 6 '8 wingspan. You feel what I'm saying? Yes.

53:11Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you watching? Hey, I watched this. I was like, bro, I don't know when you started doing this,

53:15Chad Johnson:but he'll get the ball and come over the top. Hey, you know who they compared? They compared him to D-Wade. That was D-Wade move. He stole D-Wade's move. That was his comparison coming into the NBA. Dwayne Wade, he stole it. You're right about that. I forgot about that. Yeah, he stole that from D-Wade. That's D-Wade. It sure is.

53:39Shannon Sharpe:It sure is. He said, a friend of mine got fired for talking about flop. I feel like that's what I got to do at this point. I'm just not getting the calls. I don't know why. And I don't flop. Maybe that's why. Donovan said that. They filed, you remember JB, Jalen Brown, complained about Joel Embiid flopping. They filed$50 ,000. So I guess he's making reference to JB talking about flopping and got fined. But he says, hey, maybe that's what I need to do, excuse me, to get some of these calls is flop a little bit. They fined him for that? Oh, you can't criticize the officiating. They're fined him.

54:16Chad Johnson:I don't necessarily think he needs, it's not really flopping. It's more of like a little subtle flail. You know, I wouldn't like flopping It's just that out of control Like just acting like somebody Them punch you in the back of your head That's flopping Like, you know what I mean But the great Scores, bro, they do They got a little flailing in their game now I mean, hell, he better take a page out of James Harden Because he do it with the best of them

54:47Shannon Sharpe:But as you get older Though, Joe, they don't give you them calls

54:50Chad Johnson:But you know what, and if that ain't your game, bro It's hard to play like that. Okay, Ocho, you know, I was a guy who loves scoring the basketball, but I ain't, hell, I probably ain't average about three to four, maybe five free throws. You know, these guys are not averaging, hell, 12 free throws a night.

55:06Shannon Sharpe:Man, Shea shot one time, shot 24, 25 free throws.

55:09Chad Johnson:Hell, bam, shot 40. It's like they contact seekers, bro. Like I wasn't one of them guys. I wasn't one of them guys who used to seek contact like that. I mean, yeah, I make contact, but I'm trying to initiate it. I ain't necessarily trying to, you know, receive it and then flare. I'm, you know, I'm using it for momentum. So it just depends on, you know, some guys understand it and some, you know, are just natural-born scores.

55:35Shannon Sharpe:No, not me. Ocho and I were a lot alike. I wasn't seeking no contact because I didn't want to get close to you. So you can grab me because I already know what you're going to do. You're going to grab and hold it. You're holding me. Don't do that. I already know what you're going to do. I ain't playing, but that's a – If you look at like big guys like Gronk, like what I call bumper cars, he bump into you and bump good off you. Jason Witten played like that, Gonzalez played like that. Nah, bro, I'm 225, bro. I can't let you get your hands on me. You gonna hold hell out of me and do what I'm gonna do.

56:03Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna be looking at Coach like, hey, he holding, yeah.

56:06Chad Johnson:Get away from it. You using your speed. Mm-mm.

56:09Shannon Sharpe:I'm using speed.

56:10Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, I'm swimming. Hey, you trying, hey, you reach,

56:12Shannon Sharpe:hop, hop, hop. I'm getting skinny. I'm half a man. Hey, you see this right here? hey, you never going to get this right here. You going to get this, you going to get this, or you getting that. That's what you getting. That's it. Hey, Joe, wax on, wax off. Nah, hell nah. They hold too much. But like you said, see, and that would throw me off because the first thing they do, because now I did what I would do, especially a defensive lineman, like if I'm trying to cut a defensive lineman off, I would grab him and slingshot. So I would grab him out of the waist, try to cut him off, pull him out in front of me.

56:54Shannon Sharpe:Ref, you something, bro, stop complaining, man. Your big 300 pound ass calling ref, telling me I healed you. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, shit. But yeah,

57:08Chad Johnson:you got to learn the tricks of the trade, don't you? When you first come into the league, you don't really know him. But I think, like, for me, playing with veteran guys, Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce, guys who love to score, you start to find the little nuances of the game. Like, damn, you know, you start to pick up on it because, you know, they use it against you in practice and all that. So once you pick up on it and you get it, you're right, huh? You got to find them little ways that you can score and get easy buckets. I was one of them guys, bro. Hey, look, I'm trying to learn every day. I'm a sponge.

57:40Chad Johnson:I'm out here. Anything I can pick up or I can steal from your game and add to mine. Yeah. Shit. I'm doing it. Yeah. I got some tools in the toolbox, Joe. You can use it in the big three. Yeah, what you got? You going to see when I use it on your ass.

58:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey, it's the subtle stuff. It's amazing how many times guys are like, ah, ah. Yeah. Bro. And they tell me, man, watch his weight. Bro, ain't nobody looking. You a special DB. And you a special DB if you looking at that guy's waist. That ain't nobody. I mean, that's what Reeves, and Reeves had to be watching that because that Joker's so patient. Yeah, he ain't going nowhere. Reeves ain't going nowhere. He ain't biting the first move. Ain't. All he going to do is get him lug ass off. That's another one. He walking and arms, knuckles, scrubbing the ground, Joker. Thank God. I mean, you look at that Joker like, ain't no way that man arms that long and he's a noodle.

58:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah.

58:39Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's a huge advantage, bro, when you got them long arms. For a DB? Yeah.

58:46Shannon Sharpe:Man, and he's strong. His hands, his hands are really, really strong. So now he can control you. He can do this. Yeah, yeah. Because all he's gonna do, hey, he gonna get on top of you, hey, he gonna ride you, and you gonna look back. And as he's looking back, he's riding your ass right out of bounds.

59:06Chad Johnson:Hey, you know, in basketball, it's taught the same way. You know, watch his waist. You know what I'm saying? Hell, he can't go nowhere without that waist. Don't watch that ball. That ball going to have you on that damn floor. All over the place. You need to watch his waist. Hell, he can't go nowhere without that waist.

59:22Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I had a coach tell me, he said, son, give him that little head. What man can resist head? I was like, hey, hey, hey. Hey, don't you? Ah, ah. That little indicator. them. Hey, hey, hey. They bite it every time. There they go, right? No, you don't, bro. I was going to go there. I was thinking about going inside. But you know what? You beat me to that point. I'm going to go there now.

59:47Shannon Sharpe:You got to bait them. But yeah, you got to learn those trades. Especially if you don't have a veteran player that teach you. I mean, the guys, they wasn't receiving tight ends that I played with. They were blockers. so I gotta learn everything I'm trying stuff in practice hell if it worked I'll try it again if it didn't work gotta scrap that dude cover the hell out of me on that plate you gotta trial and error the 2026 NBA playoff delivered the most watched first round in 33 years game 7 of the 76ers Celtics on May 2nd is the most watched first round game 7 averaging 11 million viewers on NBC and Peacock.

1:00:34Shannon Sharpe:The first round averaged 4 million viewers per game across ABC, ESPN, Amazon Prime Video, and NBC Peacock. Joe, what is it about this year's playoffs that got people and everybody, man, they got these games all spread out, man, I ain't paying all that money. Somebody paying something on Joey and Joe. Because they watch, it's the most watched in 33 years.

1:00:59Chad Johnson:Hey, it's exciting. I think it's the unknown for real. I mean, as much as everybody got OKC winning it, hell, you really don't know because San Antonio is scary. You know what I mean? I think with Jason Tatum coming back and giving Boston that edge, kind of catapulted them into making it to the NBA Finals at the East. And now I think everybody is intrigued to what may happen. So I'm glad the ratings is up. but I don't know how the hell they up due to the games on all these different damn apps. Like, okay, if the rain's up, then Peacock and Amazon, they making a damn killing, ain't they?

1:01:41Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Damn. They be getting on us talking about, man, you got too many ads. Hell, y 'all don't tell them that worth that. How many ads you see in the Super Bowl? They run 200 ads in the Super Bowl and$8 million of ads. And y 'all sit right there and watch them. I got a little I got like four or five ads in there you talking about and hey that's cold shadow yeah that's cold shadow download the app today yeah but I agree I think you look at it and Detroit I think Detroit being and look they love Detroit basketball and they're back the Spurs they're back Look, the Lakers are the Lakers. The Knicks are the Knicks.

1:02:32Shannon Sharpe:You got these fan bases that no matter what, Knicks, Lakers, Celtics. Philly. Philly, yeah, Philly. But when you get these young teams like, oh, my team finally in the playoffs after a long time. Think about it. San Antonio hasn't been in the playoffs in a long, long time. They're back. You got Detroit. They've been in the playoffs a couple years. But their fan base believe, man, we got a realistic chance to get to the NBA. They finals. Right. Yeah. Orlando.

1:03:04Shannon Sharpe:I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad these is looking like this. It's a. It all comes. I'm glad the NBA. Because look, they spent these Amazon and NBC and Peacock. They spent a lot of money. ESPN spent a lot of money. What? Seven billion? Seven billion dollars? Damn. That's why you want your superstars playing, huh? That's why. That's why you want your superstars playing, Joe. The product that's on the court, they have the playoffs every single year. But the product that's on the court this year has people wanting to watch. I agree. We want to see this game. We want to see Ant-Man. We want to see Brunson.

1:03:45We want to see Embiid and Maxie. That's why the numbers going up. Hey. But hell, if they're not playing or the product that's on the court is not good, who the hell tuning in?

1:03:57Chad Johnson:I agree, man. Outside of like avid basketball scene. I agree. I agree. That's why we got to get the big three ratings up, man. We need more stars to come play. They scared.

1:04:16Shannon Sharpe:I mean, who? Joe, holla at your boy, Joe.

1:04:18Chad Johnson:See, the thing is, a lot of cats, you got to really love it, bro, because a lot of us are kind of up in age. And, hell, if you done played 12, 15, 18 years in the NBA, you ain't trying to keep your body in that type of shape. And you see that with a lot of these guys who retire, bro. They just kind of, you know, let themselves go. See, I love staying in shape. That's why I can still enjoy playing the game. It's when you got all these – you bogged down with all these injuries and you stay out of shape is that the game is not fun to you no more. You know what I mean? But, hell, we're on a national stage, bro.

1:04:54Chad Johnson:You know, we just need a couple stars to come join the league, boost the ratings up a little bit, get us out there. You know, hey, Joe, listen to me now. You know, I check my availability, man. I do it. You don't need to worry about nobody but me, partner. That's it. You don't need to worry about nobody but me.

1:05:13Shannon Sharpe:Come here, Joe Brown might come out there and join y 'all.

1:05:16Chad Johnson:Yeah, he might. I can see his ass doing that. They'll pay him big money to come out there and play. I'm going to have to hit him and let him know, hey, man, I'm going to still be kicking, God damn. Hey, don't forget you, boy. Come run with me.

1:05:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, it's been very exciting because the game, you think about some of the closeness of the games. Games have been very, very interesting. Yeah, you've had some blowouts. But think about all these game sevens. Yeah.

1:05:43Chad Johnson:That's, hey, more basketball. More basketball, yeah.

1:05:48Shannon Sharpe:Cleveland was a game seven. Philly was a game seven. Orlando, Detroit was a game seven. Now, we didn't get any game sevens in the Western Conference.

1:05:56Chad Johnson:But you got some good damn games because they star-studded.

1:05:59Shannon Sharpe:We got some good great games.

1:06:01Chad Johnson:The West so stacked from top to bottom. Hell, first round, you got Minnesota playing Denver. Hell, everybody want to see that. And then you got LeBron and KD going head-to-head. The Raiders would have been a lot better, too, with that. I mean, they probably would still high because of LeBron. But, hell, if you'd have had KD out there and they done made that thing a series and they went by seven weeks.

1:06:24Shannon Sharpe:Yep. Yeah. Or mess around and get let old chef Steph sneak in. But Steph, if you'd have been in the playoff, man, you wouldn't have been able to went to the Met Gala. So you did all right. You did all right.

1:06:42Chad Johnson:Right.

1:06:44Shannon Sharpe:Did y 'all see the video of J.R. Smith getting knocked over by Knicks fans?

1:06:47Chad Johnson:I seen that.

1:06:48Shannon Sharpe:Let's take a look at this video. Hey, that was funny. J.R. was like, hey, cheer, relax, relax. Come on, man. Come on.

1:06:59Chad Johnson:Come on. Come on.

1:07:11Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Damn.

1:07:26Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody going to help the man out?

1:07:28Chad Johnson:Man, hey, let me tell y 'all something. Y 'all know them damn Knicks fans. Boy, they don't play by they Knicks, bro. They real fanatics over there. Hey, look, Uncle Ocho, I lived in Manhattan when I played for the Knicks. And, man, me and my son, we had these electric scooters. We used to ride down through Manhattan. Y 'all know it stayed busy. I had a dude ride past me. and he was like, fuck the Nets, this Knicks country. You in Manhattan. Yeah, he yell this out his window. Them folks, hey, hey, them folks don't play what about they Knicks. So I don't know what they always thinking about being out there in gym pop like that.

1:08:07Shannon Sharpe:Hell no. Especially after a game like when, I mean, can you imagine you try to go out and your team win a big game or you win the Super Bowl or you win the World Series or NBA Championship and you take your ass out there and celebrate with them fans. Man, they standing on top of cars. They flipping police cars. Man, hell no.

1:08:24Chad Johnson:Listen, bro.

1:08:25Shannon Sharpe:You better be ready.

1:08:26Chad Johnson:I'm going to be in my window. Listen, bro.

1:08:27Shannon Sharpe:Oh, boy, they crazy down there. Oh, snap.

1:08:31Chad Johnson:Listen, when we talk about if the Knicks make the finals, damn the finals, if the Knicks get out this round and get back to the Eastern Conference finals, they going to act a fool, bro.

1:08:41Shannon Sharpe:Man, I don't even want, Joe, look here. I don't even want to imagine what that thing will be about when they get to the NBA finals, Joe. You gotta realize how long it's been. They got that National Guard out there. They are. Ocho. Hey, John. Man, what you call about be out there with them? Spike Lee and Tracy Morgan. Every day I do.

1:09:06Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. They will tear that city up, bro.

1:09:11Shannon Sharpe:They will flip it for a championship. Do you understand what a championship mean to the Knicks? I mean, for New York?

1:09:18Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:09:19Shannon Sharpe:Man, hold on. It goes, if the Yankees and the Knicks, then the Giants. Jets, I'm sorry, Jets and Mets. Y 'all out there on the island, y 'all Long Island, stuff like that. But the Yankees, the Knicks, and the Giants? Lord, have them.

1:09:37Chad Johnson:Listen, not only would it be huge for New York, if the Knicks got to the finals and won it, That should be huge for basketball, period, bro. But they going to take New York up. I'm talking about Brunson. They going to have the whole Knicks thing. They going to be on Mount Rushmore up there, like the whole team.

1:09:58Shannon Sharpe:Oh, if Brunson take this team and they win the finals, oh, he absolutely. He up there with Willis Reed and Clyde. Yeah, absolutely. Earl of Pearl, yes. He's there. Hey, I'm sorry. He going to kick Patrick off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or champion, oh man, look here. Those teams like that, they revere champions over. Man. I don't care how, win a championship.

1:10:25Chad Johnson:Man, that boy would be, not only Brunson, but they team would be beloved in New York, bro. They wouldn't be. Hey, never have to pay for anything ever again, Joe. Never. Ever again. Never.

1:10:37Shannon Sharpe:Them folks don't play by them names. You see what it did for Jeter? You see what it did for Stray? Yes, sir. Stray is a D lineman and get loved. Can you imagine if Stray was a quarterback or a wide receiver? Man, that ninja would have been mayor or governor or whatever he wanted to be. Look at Jeter. Just imagine if Aaron Judge brings a World Series.

1:11:08Shannon Sharpe:Look at him looking Eli. Yeah, D-Lite don't even talk.

1:11:13Chad Johnson:Hey, the Yankees still -

1:11:14Shannon Sharpe:D-Lite don't got a paper dust. The Yankees still got stintin' over there.

1:11:17Chad Johnson:Is he still over there too? Oh, Giancarlo?

1:11:21Shannon Sharpe:Giancarlo Stanton, yeah. Yeah, he's still there. Oh, is he? Yeah, he wound tighter than guitar strings. He always pullin' something. Back, hamstring, quad something. Yeah. I'm just picturing the goddamn Knicks understanding what New York City he gonna be upside down, bro. Man, Spike Lee, Ben Stiller, Tracy Morgan. Yes, sir. Man, ain't no telling what them jokers do.

1:11:52Jimmy Fallon.

1:11:53Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Spike Lee, Spike Lee gonna lose his mind. Cause Spike Lee ain't seen a championship since, Spike was probably 20, 22, when they last won a championship with Willis Reed. Man, Spike Lee lose his damn mind. Hey, Joe. What's up? Now, y 'all don't be surprised. I done said it first. Now, them boys, when they got down, they went that goddamn chip, and you see the goddamn Statue of Liberty being carried through the city.

1:12:18Chad Johnson:All right, now. All right. Yeah, you might. You might. Ain't no telling, boy. Hey, ain't no telling. Don't put it past him, now.

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