In short
Nightcap Hour 1 mixes sports analysis and music talk. Main sports segment is the Jaguars’ 31-28 comeback win over the Chiefs, with focus on Trevor Lawrence’s legs, Jacksonville’s defense, and late-game execution. The episode also includes discussion of NFL scheduling/doubleheaders and global soccer growth. Music segment features Havoc (Mobb Deep) promoting the album Infinite.
Guests (and backgrounds)
Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (former NFL wide receiver; Bengals Ring of Fame/Pro Bowl/All-Pro) and Shannon Sharpe (co-host). Music guest: Havoc of Mobb Deep, Queensbridge rapper/producer; he says Infinite is the first project since Prodigy’s 2017 passing, with Prodigy verses and Alchemist involvement. (Masai Russell is mentioned as joining later.)
Key claims
Jaguars showed a “new” identity after trailing 14-0, scored 21 unanswered, and won despite turnovers. Lawrence used 12 carries/49 yards to beat pressure; turnovers (goal-line fumble, late interception) must be minimized. Chiefs’ costly interception and special-teams/clock-management issues mattered. Havoc argues artists must stay authentic to avoid alienating their core fanbase.
Notable examples
Lawrence’s late sideline/“in the bucket” throws (Brian Thomas Jr., Washington), Travis Hunter needing more offensive involvement, Nick Bolton punch-out and Lloyd’s interception, Mahomes’ interception leading to a 90-yard score, and Havoc’s production highlights like “Shook Ones,” “Quiet Storm (Remix),” “Crazy,” “Why” (Jadakiss), “The Setup” (Nas), and “The Promise” (Foxy Brown).
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Chapters
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0:00 to 0:34
A deep dive into the Jaguars' performance against the Chiefs and key player highlights.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
Jaguars vs Chiefs Game Analysis
0:40 to 1:02
A deep dive into the Jaguars' performance against the Chiefs and key player highlights.
“He's facing price hikes and cuts past him.”
Jaguars vs Chiefs Game Analysis
1:41 to 1:55
A deep dive into the Jaguars' performance against the Chiefs and key player highlights.
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Jaguars vs Chiefs Game Analysis
3:18 to 4:27
A deep dive into the Jaguars' performance against the Chiefs and key player highlights.
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Jaguars vs Chiefs Game Analysis
5:36 to 11:50
A deep dive into the Jaguars' performance against the Chiefs and key player highlights.
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Trevor Lawrence's Development
11:50 to 14:01
Discussion on Trevor Lawrence's growth and the Jaguars' future potential.
“The Jags' past four games have been decided by a total of 18 points.”
Athleticism and Route Running
14:01 to 14:44
Discussing the importance of athletic ability and refining route running for players.
“Five yards, turn around, we throw you the ball, make a guy miss, take off.”
Athleticism and Route Running
15:33 to 16:54
Discussing the importance of athletic ability and refining route running for players.
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Athleticism and Route Running
18:22 to 18:34
Discussing the importance of athletic ability and refining route running for players.
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Analyzing the Jaguars vs. Chiefs Game
19:05 to 26:25
Discussion around player performances and game strategies in the Jaguars vs. Chiefs match.
“But I think Travis Hunter is one of those.”
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NFL Scheduling and Viewership
26:25 to 28:01
Exploring the implications of the NFL's scheduling and doubleheaders on viewership.
“We don't need two games on Monday night.”
The Growth of American Football Globally
28:01 to 29:40
Discussion on the challenges of expanding American football worldwide and its comparison to other sports.
“and what they're trying to do also is try to have everybody play one game overseas.”
Adjustments in NFL Scheduling
29:41 to 31:56
Conversations about NFL scheduling changes, including the potential for flexing games and the challenges of viewer interest.
“Africa, the continent of Africa, you have Nigeria, you have teams, they can play football.”
Adjustments in NFL Scheduling
33:30 to 34:52
Conversations about NFL scheduling changes, including the potential for flexing games and the challenges of viewer interest.
“ZepBound Terzepatide may be able to help.”
Adjustments in NFL Scheduling
36:01 to 36:38
Conversations about NFL scheduling changes, including the potential for flexing games and the challenges of viewer interest.
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Adjustments in NFL Scheduling
36:42 to 36:57
Conversations about NFL scheduling changes, including the potential for flexing games and the challenges of viewer interest.
“Because every new season is an opportunity to take the next step forward.”
Interview with Havoc from Mobb Deep
36:58 to 42:09
Havoc discusses his new album, the impact of Prodigy, and the music industry's evolution.
“He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line.”
Creating a Classic Album
42:09 to 51:02
Learn about the process and philosophy behind making timeless music.
“How long did it take for you to, for one, come up with the vision and what you want to do and actually completing the album?”
Coaching in Football and Life Lessons
51:02 to 56:01
Explore the parallels between coaching styles and personal upbringing.
“Ocho, Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon said he apologized to the team for the sideline confrontation with Amari DiMaccardo during which Gannon appeared to strike the third year running back.”
Nostalgic Memories of Grandparents
56:01 to 59:41
Listeners will hear a heartfelt recollection of childhood experiences with family, highlighting traditions and lessons learned.
“Soon as we hit the door, Popeye drop us off.”
Coaching and Accountability in Sports
59:42 to 1:00:22
Explore the challenges of coaching in sports and the importance of learning from past mistakes.
“Sometimes, I mean, some coaches, that was abusive what they did.”
Coaching and Accountability in Sports
1:01:39 to 1:03:04
Explore the challenges of coaching in sports and the importance of learning from past mistakes.
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Coaching and Accountability in Sports
1:03:13 to 1:04:25
Explore the challenges of coaching in sports and the importance of learning from past mistakes.
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Transcript
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4:44Shannon Sharpe:wow wow wow what a ball game thank you guys for joining us for another episode of nightcap y 'all know who i am i'm your favorite unk shannon sharp there's my partner and co-host liberty city's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, Pro Bowler All-Pro. That's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. The Jags 31, Chiefs 28. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Thanks to you, Nightcap has become what it's become.
5:17Shannon Sharpe:And as we continue to grow, we kindly ask you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shea by LaPortier. Now, if you can't find Shea by LaPortier in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Make sure you check out my media company, SheaShea Media, and my clothing company, 84, with 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned into the chat. Nightcap has been nominated for two Signal Awards under the genre Best Sports Podcast, under the video Best Video Podcast co-host team. We're only ahead by a percentage point in both categories.
5:56Shannon Sharpe:We need to run away with these things. If I'm not mistaken, I think voting ends midnight on Thursday. Club Shaysha has also been nominated for two awards under the genre Athletes, Shaping Culture, and under video Best Video Podcast. We have two special guests joining us tonight from MOBB, Mobb Deep, have it, and Olympic gold medalist in Paris, Masai Russell joins us a little later. But first, boy, we had a barn burn of a game tonight. The Jags showed their merit, their grit, being down 14 points, scored 21 unanswered. The Chiefs come back, tied up. But guess what? And they take the lead, 28-24, but the Jags would not be denied.
6:42Shannon Sharpe:They go down the field, big-time catches, get a pass interference in the end zone. They score, and they take a close ball game, a very entertaining, winning a very great ball game, 31-28. Ocho, let's go with the Jags first. Trevor Lawrence, 18-25, 221, one touchdown. But it was his legs tonight. It seems like to me, Liam Cohen said, look, when they come with pressure, and they will bring pressure, a lot on third down, don't even worry about trying to complete a pass down the field. Right. Get up out of there. And that's what he did tonight. I thought they played well. and when the defense needed to make a play, they made a play.
7:23Shannon Sharpe:Takeoff. Yeah. Hey, the Jags look really good. Obviously, you know Spags love to bring pressure to cause confusion, to get the quarterback to rush his process, obviously resulting in sacks. But listen, Trevor Lawrence said, not today, not on my watch. He killed him with his legs, obviously known for his arm and his other intangibles, but tonight he used his legs to win. Travis Hunter, they need to get him involved in offense much more. You saw him make a huge play that changed the trajectory of that offensive series, which led to them scoring. Brian Thomas Jr. played well. Travis Etienne, I know what he did running the ball, but picking up some of the blisses that he did to be able to allow to make some of the throws that he made.
8:07Hey, plays like that will keep a running back on the field all three downs. He played phenomenal football as well. Defensively, the Jags played well as well. So, I mean, it was a really good game. I thought the turnovers would have hurt them because I tweeted it during the game. Every time they turned the ball over, the goddamn Chiefs capitalized on it, especially on the goal line where Trevor Lawrence tried to reach over.
8:31Shannon Sharpe:Nick Bolton punched it out. Punched it out right away. Listen, defensively, that goddamn interception, that 99 interception by Lloyd. Flipped the game. That was nice. Well, you have to understand, Ocho, he's following Mahomes' eyes. Mahomes stared him down. You know, they tried to run a little arrow route, push up, but they ran double arrow because here comes Juju first, and then I think Travis was coming in behind him. So they tried to run double arrow. But the problem is, is that when you look, the linebacker who's inside, he's going to naturally drift that way. And because, I mean, he hit it right in his bread basket.
9:10Shannon Sharpe:He breaks a tackle. He sidesteps Mahomes, and now he's off to the races. The guy did a great job of just getting enough of Thornton to throw him off his rhythm because Thornton was coming. Oh, yeah, for sure he would have called him. But I think you have to give the Jags a lot of credit. Being down at home, 14 points to that team. And they were playing extremely well. But when they needed to make plays, they made plays at the end. Trevor Lawrence played well. You mentioned ATN. It was his blitz pickup. But, yeah, he had 12 carries, 49 yards. He's averaging, what was that, basically four yards a carry.
9:46Shannon Sharpe:But those Bolton and some of those other guys was coming on a blitz. Chanel Tranquil, he stoned them. I mean, he stoned them. The offensive line did a very good job of protecting. Look, they had a half a sack. Well, they had, what, two sacks, three sacks? Looked like he got sacked three times. He got sacked three times. But I thought they did a great job considering the amount of pressure that Spags likes to bring. And you know when he feels threatened, he's going to bring pressure. They knew that too. But look at those throws at the end. Man, he dropped that one in the bucket to Brian Thomas Jr.
10:22Shannon Sharpe:right on the sideline. And then he found the – he found – what's his name? Ocho – was it Washington? Yeah, I think it was Washington that ended up catching the out ball. but Trevor Lawrence played as well. This is the Trevor Lawrence that they said, okay, when you took him number one overall, this is what they expect him to look like. And he has moments like this, but then he'll come back and he'll stink up the joint. You're like, well, bro, I've seen what you can do. I know what you can do because I've seen it firsthand. What happened? Yeah, the problem is what we saw tonight from Trevor Lawrence, what we saw tonight collectively for the Jaguars, this is not the Jaguars of old.
11:03This is a new team. What we saw tonight is a different type of Jaguars offense. I don't think they've beaten the Chiefs. I'm not sure. It's been a very, very long time since 09. You know, so normally a team like this, the old Jaguars team, they would have folded. They would have folded like lawn chair, but they continue to fight despite being down. And they fought their way back. I'm really impressed. Really impressed. If we can get this type of quarterback play from Trevor Lawrence consistently, consistently, not just one night consistently, but they're going to be fine. They're going to be in the hunt.
11:34They're going to be in contention every single year if he can continue to play like this. But minimize the goddamn turnovers.
11:40Shannon Sharpe:He had two tonight, and they were able to survive him. I mean, right there at the goal line, he fumbled that one, and he threw a pick when they had a lead. So he has to be very, very careful with that. The Jags' past four games have been decided by a total of 18 points. They're 3-1 in those games, winning three straight. The Jags are now 4-1 with two home games coming up, the Seahawks and the Rams. both of those both of those teams have quarterbacks that can throw the football both of those teams have receivers that can go get the ball you look at the Rams you talk about Poole and the cool you talk about Devontae Adams they can go get it we know Seattle you see Sam Darnold with JSN man they got guys that can go get the football so would I be surprised if we see another couple both of those games end up something like this Ochoa no I would not no I absolutely would not but the Jags were very very impressive tonight and do do ball y 'all should stand up because y 'all got to make it of a very good team liam cohen has done an unbelievable job uh guiding trevor lawrence trevor lawrence has always had the ability from the moment he stepped foot on the field at clemson they say this guy in three years with that from that point when he comes out he's gonna be the number one pick in the draft he led clemson to a national championship as a true freshman not very many true freshman can do that.
12:59Shannon Sharpe:I think the last time it happened probably was Jamel Holloway and you had to go way back, way back, Oklahoma back 85 probably. So for him to do that and then who did they beat? They beat Alabama and we know what Alabama represented. And so, and for him to do that, he was very, very impressive. But for whatever reason, the last couple of years, I don't know if it was injury. Now, I think the first year you know, Urban Meyer was his coach and I don't think that That was the best situation. He wasn't set up for success in that situation. But now, Liam Cohen, and we saw what Cohen has done with Baker.
13:36Shannon Sharpe:Two years, I mean, two years with Baker, and you see what Baker has become. Now, Baker is still on that. He's still rising, even though Liam left. But we saw what he become under Liam Cohen. So this offense is very quarterback friendly. They got receivers. They got guys that can go get the ball. I agree with you right now. until Travis refined his skill. Look, they don't run him really on nothing but spots. They run him on spots. He shall across. Five yards, turn around, we throw you the ball, make a guy miss, take off. Run you the shall across. And when they throw the ball down the field, they're allowing him to use his athletic ability.
14:10Shannon Sharpe:Remember to play, what, was it last week, a couple of weeks ago against San Francisco? They threw the dagger. He elevates, catches it. We saw him tonight in between two. So until he refines his route running ability, this is what you're going to have to do. Try to find ways to create, get him in space, and let him use his athleticism until he understands how to consistently run the route tree. Because these guys that play DB, they're really good. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice.
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19:00Coverage not available everywhere. Visit store or boostmobile.com for details. Very good. Very good. But I think Travis Hunter is one of those. He has such raw talent. He's so good, especially with his ball skills, whether it's on the defensive side of the ball or whether it's on the offensive side of the ball. If you can just get the ball in the vicinity, if you can just get in the area so he can make a play on it, he's coming down with that ball nine times out of ten.
19:22Shannon Sharpe:And on the Chiefs, I thought Patrick Mahomes, look, he played well tonight, 29-41, 318, one touchdown. The very costly interception that led to a 90. The one thing that you don't want to have happen, you don't want to give up points on your possession. So in other words, you don't want to have a scooping score. You don't want to have a pick six because now, you know what I'm saying, that's not what you're built to do. Your defense is not on the field. We understand defensively they're going to score. Look, these teams are really good. So for you to shut a team out, it's probably not going to happen.
19:51Shannon Sharpe:But the last thing we want to do is give up points while our offense is on the field because our defense didn't get a chance to stop them. Patrick Mahomes led him with rushing he was 6 of 60 Kareem Hunt had 7 for 49 he had 7 for 36 22 for 158 3 touchdowns and you see the way they came out they threw to set up the run if you look at the first series the first couple of series what they're doing getting the ball out of his hands quick guys were making plays quick game but remember I said this when you don't have a rapport with your quarterback if Hollywood Brown had a rapport with his quarterback, they win this game.
20:34Shannon Sharpe:Patrick Mahomes hit him on the shoulder with the ball. He still don't know what that is. The safety is flat-footed. He catched this ball, Mocho. He's coming out the backside. All we talk about at the end of the game? Oh, yeah. Mocho, Mocho. But you see, there are some guys you were imaginative. You had up like, damn, ain't nobody here. Let me look for this ball. He is running the route that they call oblivious. Yeah, that is right. To the situation. You got to understand the situation. Travis Kelsey. You remember Travis Kelsey against Buffalo? He got wide. Patrick Mahomes put the ball on him. They got in field goal range.
21:15Shannon Sharpe:Range. Hollywood. All you got to do, you see everybody's off. Ocho, the backside safety is flat-footed. He catched this ball. That's Hollywood Brown. He's coming out the backside. That's right. That's a touchdown. Yeah, he could go now. He can go. If anything, because the entire defense was back, he can come out the backside. If he doesn't even make it out the backside, you're still in field goal range. You get down, call a timeout. If you go back and look at this, if you tell me you don't think Hollywood Brown is on show because the safety, the backside safety, he's flat-footed. That means Hollywood Brown is going to catch this ball with a running start.
21:58Shannon Sharpe:He gone. Ain't no way no safety that's flat-footed is going to turn and beat Hollywood Brown to a point. But we talked about this the other day. Remember that I think it was the first game. He tried to do that with a receiver, but he doesn't have the rapport. Now that's Tyreek Hill. Ocho, we're having a whole different conversation because they have a rapport. They have an understanding with each other. But Mahomes is going to have to get with his guys and say, look, guys, I understand what's called. But if that guy's off you, look for the ball. And obviously, it's all situations. Yes. You understand, obviously, whatever route is called normally, if we're in a regular game, then yes, the route that's called, you run to your depth.
22:41But it's just understanding the situation. If they're backed up, turn your head around right away. Get what you can with the ball. Get what you can. Understanding there's only a little bit of time on the clock. You don't even have time to get into your full route.
22:53Shannon Sharpe:No, I don't know. See, the thing is that I'm not so sure I don't even call fair catch on that, Ocho, on the kickoff. Because guess what happens? You're not going to run it back, and there's a greater chance of you getting a holding call or a block in the back call than you running it back. So now instead of starting at the 25, guess where you're going to start at? Inside your 20. Right. And guess what else you did? You ran time off the clock. Because see, the ball don't start. The clock don't start until you touch the ball. Now you run. You take six seconds off the clock. Now, well, six, seven seconds off the clock.
23:26Shannon Sharpe:Now you get a block in the back. You took eight seconds off the clock, and you're 10, 15 yards back further than what you would have been. But those are things that you learn. See, those are things that we talk. I don't know. Look, I can't speak to everybody else, but this is what we talked about in situations like this. Look, if the ball is kicked in the end zone, leave it in the end zone. We don't run it running in time. Punt return. Fair catch. We don't want any time to run off the clock. We don't want to get an illegal block. Look, they had three timeouts, Ochoa. Three timeouts in 30 seconds.
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24:01Shannon Sharpe:That's an eternity. Because the entire field is in play. I can throw the ball over the middle. It's in play. Call a timeout. Now, I just took seven seconds off the clock. I got 23. Guess what? Middle field is still in play. I take another seven seconds off the clock. Guess what? but I still got to time out. The field, the entirety of the field is still in play. That's things that you got to talk about. Andy's got to do a better job. Special teams coach has got to do a better job of helping guys. Remind them. Remind them. Hey, fair catch this. X, Y, and Z. Go ahead. Yeah, it's all about the coaches letting the players know certain situations.
24:45Defensively, offensively, special teams, if these certain situations come up, even if they might not come up just so they're aware and obviously coaches have to know in game what's possible there's a chance that this might happen there's a chance that this might happen so be aware and understanding this is what you want to do in this situation same with hollybert brown on that play towards the end of the game understanding hell they damn they went in pre get your head around fast if you can go out the back though go out the back though if you can't get as much as you can get down call time out real fast so we have our opportunity and a chance
25:20Shannon Sharpe:to run something else um but you got to give the jacks credit they didn't hang their heads they fell behind 14 nothing they get a touchdown late they get a touchdown late uh in the second in the second quarter making a 14-7 ball game and then they score 14 more points so they scored 21 unanswered points and then we saw what happened at the end of the game but give those guys credit because i I thought Jacksonville played really well. They showed me something. They showed me something. Getting down to this team with this defense and that guy playing quarterback, they showed me something. I thought the receivers played well today.
25:53Shannon Sharpe:Thornton stepped up. Thornton has been playing extremely well. Xavier Worthy. Again. Again. Thornton again with another big play. I wish he could have kept his balance, too, on that deep ball and scored that. But, yeah, they played really well. Both sides of the ball. I don't know who the hell scheduled these goddamn games, but every time we got a Sunday night or a Monday night or a Thursday night game, they have been phenomenal. Phenomenal game. If you blink, you might miss something. That's how good the games have been so far. You're right. But the thing I don't understand is next week we got a doubleheader.
26:27Shannon Sharpe:We don't need two games on Monday night. Right. I mean, how much money do y 'all want? But they're on the same network. Yeah. Hold on, hold on. Who we got? Who we got? We got the Bears and the Commanders and Buffalo playing somebody. The Falcons. Oh, Joe, we don't need two games on a Monday night. And I can tell you what game everybody's going to be tuned into, unless you're a Buffalo fan, unless you're a Falcons fan. Everybody can be watching the Bears and the Commanders. Of course. Everybody can be watching the Bears and the Commanders. So I'm not sure why the NFL is doing that. Obviously, you understand what the bottom line is at the end of the day on why there's a doubleheader on a Monday.
27:05But listen, they trying to double dip, huh? Yeah. They're trying to double dip. If you understand the business, they're just trying to double dip.
27:10Shannon Sharpe:But Ocho, that would be like putting friends and everybody love Raymond on sister networks. Why the hell you do that? Come on, bro. Come on, NFL. It's unnecessary. I get Sunday. I get Sunday all these games. But on a singular night, Ocho, one game, we need one. But guess what? Pretty soon, they're going to have two games on Thursday. Watch. Yeah. Watch. Yeah. You have to understand, too, you got to look at it from a business standpoint. You got to look at it from their standpoint. You know what their bottom line is. We're trying to maximize as much as we can in the 17-game season, plus the playoffs, plus Super Bowl.
27:51So how can we double the profit by having two games? You know what they're going to do?
27:55Shannon Sharpe:They're going to add another playoff game. In the next three to five years, they'll have another playoff game. So instead of seven, there'll be eight. And you know that 18th game coming. and what they're trying to do also is try to have everybody play one game overseas. Now, good luck getting the Cowboys to give up a home game. Now, everybody else is going to be more than willing to give up a home game. Convince Jerry to give up one of his home games. It ain't happening. It ain't happening because if you give up a home game, that's taking away the money. I get Jacksonville. I get Cleveland. I get some of these teams, but
28:31Shannon Sharpe:let everybody We try to grow. I don't know if football, American football, will ever be what soccer is or ever be what basketball is because nobody grows up wanting to be like Randy Moss or wanting to be like Jerry Rice or Patrick Mahomes if you're in Europe. If you're in that. But listen, I understand what you're saying. We will never, I don't think any sport, will ever touch that of soccer, that of the beautiful game. obviously basketball basketball is another sport that many of them choose to to play or to be like certain individuals but the game of the game of football as great as it is continuing to grow globally on the other side of the world is a good thing for all it's a good thing because obviously not only do we get to to to expand from an economic standpoint it's good for for other players their brand and being able to do things not just here in the States, but being able to do things outside the States as well.
29:32So in a sense, long term, it's a great thing. It's a great thing. But they would never, ever be able to be what soccer is. Because
29:42Shannon Sharpe:Europeans, they play it. They can play soccer. I can become pro. What's the likelihood? Africa, the continent of Africa, you have Nigeria, you have teams, they can play football. Yeah. How many guys from Europe go like, you know what? Yeah, that football thing. I'm going to be Patrick Mahomes. I'm going to be Tom Brady. Hey, Uncle, it'd be very difficult. You have to understand, too, everybody in Europe, everybody plays soft. Yes. The chances of you playing at the highest level, the EPL, Serie A, La Liga, I mean, French League, only so many. It's only so many spots. And everybody does it. So, like, just think about this.
30:27I know you don't watch soccer much, but when you hear the conversations of the comparison between Cristiano and Messi, I don't think people understand how brilliant and how good these dudes are because everybody played this sport and the comparison of who the best is of a certain era or a certain generation, like, that's the cream of the crop. And then there's everybody else.
30:46Shannon Sharpe:And we're going to be the place you come to for the World Cup. Oh, yeah. But you got to think about it, Ocho. In soccer, Messi left home. You think about Ronaldo, left home. Hoblin, probably left home. Lewandowski, probably left home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a difference. But, man, this game tonight, this game tonight, we've been getting some very, very good games thus far. I know it's early, Ocho. It's like week eight, week nine. They be like, damn, y 'all couldn't flex up out of this one. I don't think they can flex. I think Sunday night is the game. But I think they're starting to allow them to flex out earlier because, you know, ain't nobody trying to love.
31:36Shannon Sharpe:I understand that they might be this or might be that, but ain't nobody trying in week 10 trying to see a two-win team on no Sunday night or no Monday night or no Thursday. Well, Thursday, you stuck. You stuck. Because everybody has to play, you know, at least one Thursday night game. Right. Right. Huh? Damn, man. Out of Monday night? Sunday night. Okay, yeah. Oh, they play. Oh, yeah. And that's the thing. They were like, hey, Fox and CBS be like, man, we got a bar and burner. NBC, nah, let me get that one. Hey, speaking of bar and burners, ask, ask, who is the London game this Sunday? The Broncos.
32:20Who they playing? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah, I'd be at that game. I'd be at the game. Matter of fact, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go down on the field. Ain't nothing going to change.
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37:38Shannon Sharpe:The Jets? All right, we're going to get back to that. We got a very special guest joining us, one half of the MOB Deep crew. Here he is with his title album, Infinite, my habit. What's up, bro? What up? What's good, Shannon? Yeah, man. So, Infinite, tell us about the album. What can we expect from this? The Infinite Album is an album that we're putting out the first time since the passing of Prodigy. Since 2017, yep. Yeah, he passed away in 2017. So this is the first project that Monty was putting out since his passing. And me and Alchemist got together, put some music together, got some Prodigy verses, some unheard Prodigy verses.
38:21Wow. Put it together. Hey, that's dope. one of the things I want to talk to you about obviously Mobb Deep, I've been huge fans for a very long time. When you think about the music industry and how the sound of music changes every 10 years have you thought about when it comes to making music and coming out in this era with the sound being different do you change anything or do you stay your authentic self based on what your true fans want to hear? Nah, you got to stay your authentic self because you can't alienate your core base. You know what I'm saying? You can't alienate your foundation man you know i mean without your foundation you got nothing you know i'm saying that that it's that quick money if you try to you know try to be current and try to be you know saying try to be cool that's just the quick money but then you alienate your fan base and mob d was never one to alienate their fan base we just we stick with our supporters you feel me yes but you know uh
39:17Shannon Sharpe:havoc is a very fine line because when you do something it's like man this the same old same same old, same old, same old. You try to give them something new. Man, I want to hear the old stuff. So how do you balance, walk this tightrope, this high wire that says, okay, I'm going to stay true to who we are, but I'm going to add a little flavor so let you know that we can go other places and still be true to who we are. That's true. It really is a fine line. And it's a fine line in anything that you do, whether it's music, you know what I'm saying, sports, this, that, and the third. You know what I mean?
39:52because you gotta kinda do change with the times, you understand what I'm saying? You know, you gotta stay up to speed, you gotta stay up with technology, you know what I mean? But you still gotta keep your core values and principles intact when you're creating what you're creating. So it's a tough balancing act and not a lot of artists could toe that line. It makes or breaks artists to be at the end of the day. Yeah.
40:20Shannon Sharpe:How did you and Prodigy meet? We met in high school We met in high school, yeah, back in 1989 You know what I mean? The High School of Art Design Back in New York Yeah, we hit it off, man We was like instant friends So I want to know how you came up with the name Mobb Deep Alright, so, you know Diddy wanted to sign us back in the days You know what I mean? He wanted to sign us And he was like, yo man, our name was Poetical Prophets back in the days.
40:54And then he was like, y 'all want to sign y 'all, man, but y 'all got to change your name. So we went back to the drawing board and we came up with a name that described how we rolled when we went out. We was deep and it was a mob of us. You know what I mean?
41:16Shannon Sharpe:The name stuck. from the Queens Bridge. I mean, hey, Nars. Man, y 'all got some heavy hitters. I see you in QB. I saw you. I was like, yo. I was out there with Jungle. Me and Steve Stout. I was out there. I was like, okay. And everybody came out like, man, Unk, I hit the bridge. Unk, I hit the bridge. I said, okay, yeah, Unk, I hit the bridge. Yo, you kept it a buck with that one. You kept it a stack. I was like, you was right there in the thick of it all, man. Word. Hey, Ahab, most of the time, us as fans, music fans, we only get to see the finished product. I don't think fans really understand the work that goes in when it comes to making an album.
41:58You know, the countless hours, the writing, the brain freeze you get when it comes to the finished product that you do have now in Infinite. How long did it take for you to, for one, come up with the vision and what you want to do and actually completing the album? How long did that normally take? I mean, you know, me, they have to pull me away from a project that make me stop. Because I'll work forever. You know what I'm saying? I'm like a perfectionist. They have to stop me. They be like, chill, have, chill, have. It's done. Right. But with this project, you know, with Prodigy in mind, it's like I knew that we had a job to do and we had to get it done.
42:38You know what I mean? We had unfinished business. So this project, I would say it took us about a good little year to get everything right and, you know, do all the songs, pick the best songs and just, you know, and come with a complete project. So it took about a year.
42:56Shannon Sharpe:You know, Infamous is regarded as one of the best all-time albums. What do you think is some of the things that make an album a classic and make it be able to stand the test of time? you know what makes an album a classic to me in my mind is not even knowing that it's a classic you know what I mean you don't even realize it's a classic it's just something that it stands the test of time you understand what I'm saying it could be good it's good in the first decade it came out the second the next decade it's still popping and then the third decade we played it like it's brand new we all know albums like that like the chronic you know what i'm saying some nwa projects you know a wu-tang project you know i'm saying classic albums that we still play today and our kids is bumping to it and they wasn't even born at the time you feel me yeah that's a classic for you yeah hey when it's based on some of the classics that you just named who would be outside of yourself your group in general outside yourself what would you say is the most classic hip-hop album that was it was classic in the 80s or whether it was the 90s whether it's the 2000s that you could put it on in any era any generation and it resonates with everybody man i had to say off the wall you know i'm saying you know off the wall michael jackson off the wall yeah yeah I have to say off the wall.
44:24Shannon Sharpe:That's a good one. But hey, Hal, for real talk, if you just listen, not commercial, because we know what Thriller was, but I believe off the wall is Michael Jackson's best work. Exactly. Before it got crazy, you know what I'm saying? It didn't have the commercial success. It didn't have the commercial success as a bad. It didn't have the commercial success as maybe invincible. Right. But boy, y 'all better go back and listen to off the wall. because that that was his foundation right like that was his foundation and then you know came with thriller we was like all right that's dope but that was over
45:03hey hey being that you from queen bridge i know you got to be a huge fan of battle all day long all day long okay okay okay most definitely most definitely i've been i've been a huge fan of battle rap man for now maybe about eight nine years so i'm talking about i done went back and did my homework when tay and clips and dna that's about way back when they first started and i've caught up i've caught up the now to where i'm the hugest hugest battle battle rap fan who would you who would be your favorite battle rapper if you had to take one man there's so many but you You know, Polo the Dawn is one of them that I like.
45:42You know what I mean? I really liked him. And when you're dealing with that battle rap, if you're not acclimated to it or you want to learn about it, you could go down a rabbit hole for real. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? For real. Yeah.
46:00Shannon Sharpe:You know, look, in the 90s it started, look, it started back in the 80s with the beefing, and then it came to the 90s. When you heard Hit Em Up and you heard Tupac mention y 'all, what did you think? You're like, man, we got to get this dude, man. We got to come out with something. We got to send some shots back, man. Damn. Hey, listen, listen. Hip-hop is a contact sport. So we wanted all the smoke. We wanted all the smoke. You heard? We just like, yeah, yeah, come on. Give us some more. Right. And look, look, when he did that, you know, I looked at Tupac. He was like mad famous. is he had the movie Juice.
46:37You understand what I'm saying? So, you know, Tupac was pretty popular. So we just coming up in the game trying to make a name for ourselves. So he helped us make a name for ourselves. So, you know, I wasn't mad at him. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't mad at him.
46:51Shannon Sharpe:I ain't going to lie to you, Hal. I didn't know. I was like, well, damn, he mentioned him. I said, well, let me go see who he's talking about. Exactly. That's my point. Exactly. You know what I mean? And I think if he was alive today, we probably would have been mad cool by now. You know what I mean? so it's all good. Give me some, what do you think of the top? You look, you're a writer, producer, you're MC. Give me your top five tracks you think you've produced. Drumroll. My top five tracks that I produced, definitely got to say Shook Ones. That's, you know, without that song, where would I be?
47:24Quiet Storm, you know what I'm saying? Remix featuring Lil' Kim, Crazy. Even, you know, one of her best songs that I did, even for her. Why? That I produced for Jadakiss. You know what I'm saying? That's number... Word, word, word. Why about Jadakiss? I would have to say... Let me see. Oh, a joint that I did for Nas called The Setup. That's four. And one called The Promise that I did for Foxy Brown. Damn, you've been working with him heavyweight. Where Foxy at? Where Foxy at? Yeah, she chilling. She chilling. She going to come back out soon. You know, we be messaging and stuff like that, you know?
48:11You know what I mean? But that's my girl.
48:14Shannon Sharpe:Hey, man. Did you always want to be in this space? Did you always want to be an emcee? Did you always want to write? Did you always want to produce? Did you always want to rap? Or was there something else that you wanted to do, but you're like, you know what? At that point in time, you're like, hip-hop was calling you. I mean, I wanted to be an architect. So, you know, I went to the School of Art and Design High School. You know what I mean? I wanted to be an architect. I wanted to build things, buildings. But then music just kind of, like, took over my life when I got into high school. You know what I mean?
48:43And I come from a place, Queensbridge, where we got Molly Mall, you know, St. Nas, MC Shan, Roxanne Chante. So it was like this tradition out there in hip-hop. You know what I mean? Roxanne, Roxanne. Yeah. So, you know, I got that bug early, the music bug early. And, you know, luckily I was successful at it because, you know, I definitely wanted to be an architect first before music.
49:11Shannon Sharpe:Man, but you know the Queen, y 'all been battling Molly Mall and Boogie Down with KRS-One. Y 'all been battling for a minute. It all started. It all started with y 'all. I mean, it really did. And when you front row to a battle like that, it puts the fire in your belly. You feel me? It put that fire in there where you just like, I could do this. You know what I'm saying? Like, who does man think he is coming through trying to diss my hood? You feel me? But I love Karis, you know what I mean? And that's what I'm trying to tell you. Hip-hop a contact sport. Y 'all think y 'all doing it in football.
49:53We out here going crazy in hip-hop.
49:56Shannon Sharpe:Right. hey the funny thing when you think about hip-hop too the way you describe it being a contact sport the better your penmanship the harder you hit that's right and that's that's that's all it come down to the better the pen man i don't know man i'm i'm a huge huge huge fan of hip-hop but i can't rap i can't rap i never i can i can talk shit but i can't rap and it's always been the joy of mine to see people like yourself, KRS-One, and some of the other artists that I grew up watching still doing that thing today. And I just want to say, brother, I salute you. I salute you. I got to meet you.
50:34Matter of fact, you in New York right now? Yes, indeed. Bro, I come to New York tomorrow morning. Pull up. Pull up. I got to pull up. Pull up, man. It'll be an honor. You know what I mean? And I think y 'all let me on for real.
50:48Shannon Sharpe:We appreciate that you're coming on. One half of Mobb Deep Havoc album titled Infinite with tracks from the late Prodigy. Bro, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Continued success. We'll see you down the road. Thank you, man. Peace. Peace out. Peace and love. Ocho, Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon said he apologized to the team for the sideline confrontation with Amari DiMaccardo during which Gannon appeared to strike the third year running back. Gannon I said, I woke up this morning and I didn't feel great about it, honestly. So in the team meeting, I addressed it. I apologized to Amari.
51:25Shannon Sharpe:I apologized to the team and I just told them, I kind of let the moment of what happened get the better of me. Obviously, I try to be emotionally stable and calm because my job is to solve problems during the game and kind of lead the charge on that. So it's really not who I am and I want to be. It's not who I want to be. it's not it's really not about that's not who i really am when people's emotions are high logic is low like you always say you're a coach understanding that you you're probably going to lose a game based on a bonehead play that a player does you're not thinking about okay i know he did that but let me not react no let me not react no unk players get coaches fired yes for situations like you just saw you're right i think he is in his well right to be able to react how he sees fit now i know public opinion you can't do that in this day and age in this era it's okay sometimes you should be able to chastise your player regardless of whether he makes millions of dollars or not there are certain things you should not do in a game it's a game of inches it's a game of inches every play matters that play mattered because of that play in that mistake you lost the game you're gonna put the game out of reach because you might go 28 to 6 hey but listen i i understand him he has to apologize um obviously the era i grew up in um that's the way that's the way they oh for sure that's the way they handled us it's not it's frowned upon today in today's game regardless of what level of football you play.
53:10You would have never made it to the sideline.
53:11Shannon Sharpe:Had that happened, that was never a thing. I don't remember that ever happened. Had you did a play like that when I was growing up, you wouldn't have made it to the sideline. Cole would have grabbed you by your face mask and pulled your ass up to field. Man, listen. I ask you this every time. Hey, Chad, let me know, Chad, if you ever saw this. I think about Miami. I think about Liberty City, the inner city where I grew up with the high schools, the Optimist clubs and the way the coaches coach and i think one of the reasons why we are all so great and so many of us come out of our area and flourish at the highest level despite circumstance despite obstacles it's because of us becoming numb to the way we're the way we're coached as hard as it is and being used to the cursing and the hollering especially in pressure situations we're already built for it.
54:01We're already built for it. The documentary I asked you about a while ago called The Year of the Bull. You never did see The Year of the Bull, huh? It's a documentary on Miami Northwestern, the way the coaches were back then and the way they coached some of those teams. Unbelievable. Chad, I don't know if any of you saw The Year of the Bull, the documentary about Miami Northwestern where Teddy Bridgewater went. A lot of NFL players that are in the league now and former NFL players. It's a reason why they're so great it's it's a reason because they're not baby they're not they're not pampered when it comes to playing the position i mean the the sport of football and at times it's needed because you you look at some of the mistakes that that we make today parents you can't scold your kids you can't beat your kids the way you used to it's frowned upon some of the mistakes and kids and being out of control back then yeah it was a village it is you wasn't getting away with some of that stuff today I'm in the grocery store I'm hearing kids cussing at their mama like what you I don't want I don't fucking want to do it what when we go we going in the store your mama tell you getting out the car we going in the store don't ask me for shit don't touch ish don't touch nothing and when you go in the store you're going to do two things you're not going to touch nothing and you ain't gonna ask her for nothing.
55:29Now, what you might do, you might sneak something in the buggy and hope she pay for it when she pull everything out when you get to the register.
55:38Shannon Sharpe:Not Mary Porter. Mary Porter gonna say, take that ish back where you got it from. And then it gonna hit you upside your head and say, I told you not to put nothing in my buggy. Now, my grandma revealed that was a whole different story. See, like grandparents Ocho, we stayed with marrying Barney. So my other grandparents, my dad, mom, and father, they didn't see us that much. So what they going to do? Give us whatever we want. Soon as we hit the door, Popeye drop us off. Granita William and Grandma Child, we call her. Charlie, here go them boys. Ocho, I got my little bag. Soon as I hit the door.
56:14Shannon Sharpe:Grandma Child, can we go to the grocery store? All right. William? Granita William. Load the car. hot dogs hot dog buns honey buns potato chip soda cuz all she drank was tab soda I don't know if anybody remember the old enough to remember tab in that pink can it was nasty but boy man if she said well we gonna go to the store later here here's a dollar for you and Spanky give me a dollar yeah we hit that dough there's a store probably like 50 by 50 yards yeah but man Porter we got on On Saturday, because really that's the only time we went shopping, Saturday, maybe, maybe like a Friday afternoon.
56:56Shannon Sharpe:Papa would take us. We'd go pick up Granny. She had to got paid. She'd go go cash a check, and then we'd go. But we already know. Why don't you put the blood, please? But you're right, Ocho. Like, there was a, I don't know. And maybe, maybe because it was always that way, Ocho, but we didn't have the internet. Everything wasn't filmed. so maybe kids were just as respectful disrespectful then as they are now. It's hard for me to believe that but I just know from what I saw but them parents ain't play that. Them parents ain't play that. Now every once in a while you might see the white people, they were a little bit more okay, okay mom, I'm not gonna do it.
57:37Shannon Sharpe:But the black kids boy please, man they ain't play that. Mary Porter said wherever you show out, you get woe out. We'll get woe out. Grocery store, it didn't matter. Walking on the street. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. You're going to get it. You're going to get it right there. Hold on. I'm thinking I'm slick. When it's a senior quiet time and my grandma in church and she see me acting up in the pew, she ain't got to do nothing. Look at you. Just stare. and you already know man come on man the the the saying it takes a village um i'm telling you man them days back then man them 80s and them early 90s and them people ain't play no people they play you've been act up well don't make me call your grandma my grandma was a ventriloquist oh my grandma be my grandma be in church i start crying i already know she said she gonna cut my tail i already know she said hey hey listen hold on my grandma used to come on my arm and pinch she had pinched my arm with the twist and then you know you're so young once you start crying you're crying out loud when she reached right in that purse she gave me either that butterscotch candy or peppermint to get me to get quiet oh boy them some good days boy great oh but see we we get the butterscotch that's already out the wrap we got mint got everything oh got a penny stuck to it can we get some candy with the wrapper on granny you gave that butterscotch and that that peppermint and that guy got lint on it it got little cotton fuzzies it got a penny or a dime stuck to it, I was like, get here.
59:29Hold on. Y 'all had the candy with the strawberry. Yeah. Yes. You know what I'm talking about? The red.
59:35Shannon Sharpe:Man, listen. Boy. But Ocho, to get back on this football fake, it's different. And I get it. Sometimes, I mean, some coaches, that was abusive what they did. Obviously, you can't coach like that. But that's why it would be hard for me to coach, Ocho, because you know better. You've seen it. You just saw last week Mitchell do it, and it cost himself a 76-yard touchdown. So they lost the game, I think, too, didn't they? Didn't they lose to the Rams? The Colts. Didn't the Colts lose that game when Mitchell bobbled it? I'm not sure. I think they did. I'm not sure. Yeah, they lost to the Rams, Ocho.
1:00:17Yeah.
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