Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho debate the best NFL offenses entering the season + NFLPA is in shambles

23:03Shannon Sharpe:I ain't looking at Jerry Goff, he's 12, though. I'm sorry. Okay, you know what, you're right. But the resurgence in the winning that Detroit is having, Jerry Goff is responsible for that, though. Jerry Goff is responsible for that, especially the team that they put around him. So he might not be 12, but he's good enough to get it done. Yeah. Welcome to On the Field, today's hottest sports stories presented by On Nicotine Pouches. Breaking news here, the Onvitational is officially launching this October. Big names, big swings, even bigger energy. The top golf partners all under one roof. At the SoFi Center?

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25:44Shannon Sharpe:Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode. Available on Plus and Pro Plans. To honor our country on its 250th birthday, this can of Copenhagen goes out to those defending the free American soil that our tobacco has taken root in for over two centuries and counting. Here's to the calloused hands of freedom. Copenhagen saluting American grit proven since 1822. Warning, this product is not a safe alternative to cigarettes. 94, the 49ers lost Mike Shanahan to us. Ray Rose to Eagles and they won the Super Bowl in 95.

26:38Shannon Sharpe:But they had Steve, they had Jerry, they had Ricky Waters, they had pride. You go back and look at that roster. You're like, okay, I see why they won. Hey, listen, my grandma. Steve Young was the MVP. Yeah. Jerry was Jerry. Ricky Waters. We saw Ricky Waters have. How many touchdowns did Ricky Waters have in the Super Bowl? People don't realize how good Ricky Waters was. He was nice. He was nice. Because he was in our division in Seattle. And I think the thing that hurt him is that he uttered a phrase when he went to Philly, they were losing. Yeah. And they threw a ball across the middle. And he didn't, he short-armed it.

27:18Right. And they asked him after the game, he's like, for who?

27:22Shannon Sharpe:For what? And, you know, they, you know, the voters kind of held that against him. Yeah. But he could play. Oh, yeah. He could do it all. He could run the ball between the tackles. He can get outside. He could, damn sure, could catch it. You know, I remember. Ricky Waters, he was nice. Ricky Waters reminds me of Eric Dickinson in a sense. He ran upright. He ran upright. Knees was real high. Yeah, he was sweet with it now. Ricky was sweet. Yeah, Ricky was the 49ers. Seattle. Then he ended up going to Philly. I don't even remember Ricky Waters in Philly. I remember Seattle in the 49ers though. Clear as day.

28:03Shannon Sharpe:You don't remember him in Philly? Nah. Uh-uh. Yeah. Not at all. Hey, remember, speaking of 49ers, remember Roger Craig since we talked about running back? Roger Craig. Yeah. Roger was, he from Nebraska. Yeah. He had, he was the first one that, I mean, you saw with that, those high knees. High knees. Yep. A very, very, what's the word? He was the first thousand, thousand. Rush 4 ,000. And Pat and Court 4 ,000. Mm-hmm. And then Marshall did it, I think in 99. And then C-Mac did it. What's C-Mac? In Carolina? Yeah, Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But you're right. You know, look.

28:45Shannon Sharpe:Everybody says you have to take steps. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? There are very few times that the first time you get to the playoffs and you go win it. Right. Normally you have to have some setbacks. You have to have scars. You have to get hardened. Right. And know what it takes that when the rubber needs to meet the road, you don't bubble up. Yeah.

29:07Shannon Sharpe:So they're saying, hold on, this is our time. Right. you theoretically should have won it the year before you had them you had the 49ers on the road on the road

29:21Shannon Sharpe:that was the one Ocho that you let slip away those are the ones that hurt you know what because there ain't no guarantee people like oh yeah they'll be back next bro you don't get to pick up where you left off you gotta start all over you gotta start all over You know what I do like about the Lions, though? Where I think they'll always be in contention. I think they'll always be in contention every year simply because of the coach. Simply because of Dan Campbell. Now, it's one thing to have the players, to have the positions and the skill sets. You got your quarterback in place. Dan Campbell, his willingness, not being scared, willing to drop his cojones, willing to go forward in certain situations where other coaches wouldn't.

30:05Dan Campbell's saying, you know what? F analytics. F stats, F all that I'm going to play game winning football and go for it because I believe in my guys offensively, I believe in defensively I really really like those dudes in Detroit man that run through a wall for Dan Campbell man

30:22Shannon Sharpe:yep yep but it's tough, I remember and we went to the AFC championship game in 91 lost 10-7 to Buffalo Man, we got off to a great start the next year, Ocho. I mean, I think at one point in time, we might have been 7-1. Ooh, that was a ball. Man, we lost seven straight games. John got hurt. We lost seven straight games. Hey, who was the backup? Man, we were splitting quarterbacks. Tommy Maddox and Sean Moore. Wait, Tommy Maddox was nice. Tommy played in Pittsburgh, right? He wasn't nice when he was with us in Denver, though. I'm sorry. he wasn't nice when he was yeah we we missed that part right no he became nice after he started having to sell insurance okay okay okay yeah they say you know you become motivated you know um a broken heart an empty wallet you know and and an empty stomach it's tremendous motivation i got you i got you when you're in the nfl and all of a sudden two years later you're not in the nfl and you're selling insurance, be it car, homeowners, life.

31:41Shannon Sharpe:Man, if I get another opportunity, Ocho, I'm not going to squander this one. And he made the most of it. He ended up getting hurt, and then Ben came in, and the rest is, as they say, history. History, yeah. But I think, if I'm not mistaken, he did win comeback player of the year. And then, I don't know, well, Coach Reed's got this from Coach Landry. Coach Landry used to rotate quarterbacks, Roger Staubach and Craig Morton. so I've seen rotating running backs, rotate tight ends, rotate receivers, but how the hell you one quarterback come in, bring the player, run it, then he go back out, they bring another quarterback in.

32:14I know quarterback, I hate that.

32:15Shannon Sharpe:I think we were like, when John got hurt, I think we were like 71, 72. And lost seven straight. All I know is that when he got back, huh? And lost seven straight? Yep. Hey, boy, that quarterback position is something special. It's key to everything. It's something special. And then Dan ends up getting fired. Wade comes in. We make the playoffs in 93. Yeah. We miss in 94. Wade gets fired. Dan comes in. I think we go 8-8. And the next year we go 13-3. We lose the divisional round to Jacksonville. Right. We win the next two years. That's still the most painful loss of all the losses. And, hey, I've taken my share of L's.

32:59Shannon Sharpe:But that's the most painful loss that I've had in a – I still, well, I know how we lost. How'd you lose? Easy. Easy. I mean, they were, Ocho, they had just been a team. They had just been a franchise. They had just become a franchise in 95. Yeah. Damn. 95. Yeah. And here they, like, and they roll up in there, and it's all on me. I played terrible that day. Yeah, a bad day, huh? Dropped the two-point conversion, dropped the third down. Damn. I was some slaw, man. That's on me. That's on me, Ocho. That's on me. Man, Ocho, you know I had this shallow cross. Ocho, I had to move. Ocho, you know I stood up at the line.

33:44Shannon Sharpe:So you know, Ocho, you know how I do. I'm like, uh. And then I was like, phew, I took off on it. Right. How it goes, Ocho. And John threw it. So in the process of me catching it like this and moving it, it hit my knee. Ah. And punched it out. It flew up. lord have mercy because i've been hitting the cone i've been hitting that cone on him and be gone yeah yeah yeah damn hey that's hey that's one of the worst that's one of the worst feelings man to drop a ball in the middle of the game and hit a whole in the whole crowd say oh oh oh because i had just came off as oh i just came off one of the great seasons right 80 catches over a thousand yards double digit touchdowns mike sat me out the last game and say, look, I want you to get healthy.

34:31Shannon Sharpe:Right. I was like, man, I was feeling so good, too. I just like, ooh. I had caught a touchdown earlier, Ocho. Right. So I was feeling good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know how it is, man. You drop a pass, and then all of a sudden, you get in your own damn head. You're like, ugh. And once I drop that one, man. But that one hurt. Because then, you know, we went on a streak. We won like, what? seven straight. And then I went to Baltimore. We won four straight. And then we won the next game. We beat Miami the next year. But I just go to show you, Ocho, man, I'm in Baltimore. In the first year, you know, we had historically great defense in 2000.

35:19It was all right. It was all right.

35:23Shannon Sharpe:You look at the show. Hey, they gave 165 points in 16 games. 165. And when you tack on the other four playoff games, they still, they gave up, they still didn't give up more than 190 points. In 20 games, they gave up less than 190 points. And that defense. You know we were cool, but Ocho, the next year, we make the playoffs. So we go down to Miami. We go down there early. guys at the beach they got jet skis i'm like and brian and brian don't say nothing don't you hold on it's a playoff game it's a playoff game a regular yes hold on them boy down in miami on jet skis before a playoff game yes I said now mind you we ain't got no we ain't got no room check I mean Brian ain't really have nothing Brian's like I'm gonna treat you like men I said no don't treat them like men we didn't treat them like we didn't make sure we locked the doors on them no curfew Ocho we went to the Super Bowl they didn't have curfew or room check y 'all won the game though Yeah, Ocho.

36:49Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Brian must have knew something I didn't know. See, that's a good thing. Ain't no way in hell, Mike Shanahan. We had, what was it, 11? Nah, we first got there because we got down on Sunday. We used to get down on a Sunday, Ocho. So it was like 1 o 'clock, and then Monday night you got 12, and then Tuesday night because Tuesday night you're going into practice starting Wednesday. I think it was 11.

37:16Shannon Sharpe:But, yeah, it was totally two different type situations, Denver and Baltimore. But, hey, they did what they needed. Hey, we won the game, so. Yeah, that's all that matters. But it just goes to show you. Like, I knew with the Giants that if we didn't turn the ball over, they couldn't move the ball. Right. The only way they were going to beat us, if they got a scoop and score or pick six. As far as like moving the ball, I'm talking about like handing it off or throwing it. Right. It ain't happening. Go back, pull up that stat line from that Super Bowl. Ocho, I'm going to show you the stat line of what they did when they had the ball.

38:03Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it was crazy. You won't ever see a stat. I don't know if you'll ever see a stat line like this in the Super Bowl. It was 2000, the Super Bowl, yeah, the Super Bowl 35. It was that bad? I don't even think they had 200 yards of total offense. Hey, that defense, man, was something serious. Oh, man. Oh, my goodness. I don't think people understand. There was no weakness. If there was a weakness, y 'all did one hell of a job hiding it. Yeah. Well, the thing was is that you couldn't run, so they made you one-dimensional very early. And because they didn't have to blitz, so they didn't have to sacrifice the back end.

38:41Shannon Sharpe:Right. So now you got McCrary. you took Rob Burnett and kicked them down inside you put Peter Bollwear on one side you put Mike McQuarrie on the other side and then you rotated Keith Washington you had Jelly Roll I mean we had wait a minute y 'all were loaded hold on no I needed like the play by play who was the DB's there who was on Dwayne Starks Chris McAllister and Dwayne Starks and then Bailey was our slot Bailey and Corey Harris was our slot he was a nickel yeah what Boucher ass at man I ain't seen Boucher in a minute Ocho they had 178 yards of total offense with four picks Jesus

39:39Shannon Sharpe:okay Ocho this is the Giants drive Punt, punt. Okay, five yards, punt. One yard, punt. 18 yards, punt. Six yards, punt. Two yards, punt. One yard, punt. Interception, punt. Interception, interception. Punt, interception. Kick, return, touchdown. Punt, punt, fumble, punt. End of game.

40:10One, two, three.

40:15Shannon Sharpe:11 punts

40:22hey if you were to if you were to tell somebody if you were to tell somebody that's that line right and then tell them the teams that were playing they wouldn't even think that was the nfl game they're thinking it was some some pop warner or some little league stuff man that was man that's ridiculous. This is the NFL game. Ocho, the longest drive they had was

40:44Shannon Sharpe:nine plays. Three plays, three plays, five plays, three plays, three plays, two plays, nine plays, three plays, five plays, three plays, one play, three plays, three plays, no play, three plays, seven plays.

41:08Listen That 2000 Raven defense man Them boys was something special boy I ain't gonna lie I'm not even gonna front Boy they was something special

41:20Shannon Sharpe:Ocho I think they had In the first 12 possessions they got two first downs

41:29Shannon Sharpe:Let me take that back Ocho Ocho let me take that back Who was the quarterback? They got one first down. Kerry, who was it? Kerry Collins? Kerry Collins? Yeah. Okay. Hey, well, that's funny there, boy. They got one first down. My bad. I think they got one first down in the first 12, in the first one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. In the first 12 possessions, hold on. No. One. They might have got something by penalty. That's crazy. because if you think of Ocho, they only got a mean,

42:07they would, it was tough sledding.

42:12Shannon Sharpe:They got five yards, one yards, 18 yards, six yards, two yards, one yard, 10 yards. They had nine plays, 50 yards. They had three plays, 43 yards. Then they have five plays, six yards, three plays, eight yards, one play, no yard, it was picked off. Then they had three plays, no yards, three plays, minus four yards. Fumble, three plays, four yards, seven plays, 22 yards. That don't even sound – it don't even sound – Now, the defense themselves didn't get scored on. Yeah. They ran a kickback. They didn't score on the defense. That defense, that postseason, gave up one touchdown. in four games in four games Chad y 'all not listening in four playoff games that defense gave up one touchdown that's unheard of they gave up three points to the Broncos they gave up ten points to Tennessee three points to the Raiders the defense gave up no points zero So in four playoff games, the defense actually gave up 16 points.

43:32That's – you know, we'll never see a defense like that again. You'll never see that again. Never see a defense like that again. No. Not like that. Hey, where you can't run the ball at all?

43:45Shannon Sharpe:No. Ocho, in 16 games, they didn't give up 1 ,000 yards rushing. So if you combine everybody that ran the football that year in 16 games, It didn't come up to$1 ,000. That's crazy. No, that's crazy. Oh, I'm sorry, Giants. When you're teeing off and your clients are watching, it's on. When the game goes to overtime and your squad is right there with you, it's on. When you swap out that other nicotine pouch for something softer and feel the difference right away, it's on. On plus nicotine pouches with Nico Silk Mesh. No corners, no rough edges, just the softest pouch on the planet. When there's nothing between you and what's next, it's on.

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45:03Because this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Kewpie only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers. Some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People who really care about flavor use it. Never tried it? Grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're at the store. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. Kupi, the original Japanese mayonnaise.

45:37Chat GPT can do more than answer questions. It can help you get real work done. Chat GPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps. You bring the goal along with the information it needs, like briefs, notes, files, feedback, calendars, data sets, or project plans. Then ChatGPT can help turn all of that into something useful. An analysis, a tracker, a deck outline, a prototype, or a workflow you can keep shaping. It can also use approved apps, connected tools, files, and browser contexts to help move the work forward. And you stay in control. You give direction, review drafts, approve actions, redirect the work, and choose the final output.

46:19So you spend less time sorting through busy work and more time making progress on the work that matters.

46:26Shannon Sharpe:Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode. Available on Plus and Pro Plans. To honor our country on its 250th birthday, This can of Copenhagen goes out to those defending the free American soil that our tobacco has taken root in for over two centuries and counting. Here's to the calloused hands of freedom. Copenhagen, saluting American grit, proven since 1822. Warning, this product is not a safe alternative to cigarettes. Oh, Joe, more changes are coming to the leadership of the NFL Players Association. I'm right here. Chief Strategist Officer J.C.

47:16Shannon Sharpe:Tretter has resigned from his post amid scrutiny over hiring former NFLPA Executive Director Lloyd Howell, who resigned on July 18th. PMAT, Pac McAfee, did mince words about the NFLPA leadership following strip club allegations. The NFLPA has been led by people who could much rather be known than the heads of the NFLPA than actual work and act like they are heads of the NFLPA. These dudes think they're celebrities. These dudes think they're powerful. These dudes hire all of their friends and overpay them with players' money. Then these dudes flex while using and abusing all the connections that the players and the league have worked their asses off their entire lives for.

48:04Shannon Sharpe:and act like sanctimonious heroes through it all. Ocho, we kind of touched on this a little bit. We did. We did. Early. Yeah. This all happened. Pablo Torre. Is Pablo still working with ESPN? He has his own thing. Yeah. And he's a lawyer. He's a Harvard grad. Very smart. I've never met the guy, but just watching him, listening to him talk. Yeah. He's a very smart guy, very shrewd. And he went digging. and he found some information yes sir that about a judge that said yeah they kind of they the owners and and there was writing between jeff passion i i think roger goodell there was a memo said we got to get these we got to get this guaranteed money down because it's getting outrageous blah blah blah they were smoking gun now the nfl do a better job they've gone underground um with that being said um Lloyd Lloyd Howell was in trouble now I don't know how you get a job at the NFL PA head right when you work with a company that a private equity firm that your job is to go try to find investors to buy NFL teams and if I'm not mistaken I could be wrong but I think like if you're at the head of the if you're like a players association so like you're the president and that's what jason treder was like after a year or two you leave the game you go you done you got nothing else to do with it but somehow he got hired as a strategist so once all this stuff started coming out yeah it was just a matter of time everybody got you got you know you got blow it up yeah listen you have you you have no choice but to blow it up and you might as well bring it home where it belongs.

49:52Yeah. You're right here to me.

49:54Shannon Sharpe:They messed this thing up when they didn't hire Troy because Troy sat right next to, what's this guy's name? Damaris? No, hell no. They should have never hired him. Gene? Gene. Gene. Gene Upshaw. Gene, yeah. But see, it shifted because Gene and Paul Tagliabue had a great working relationship. yes yes sir it was a partnership then was was paul stepped down it's funny he and i came in a year together we left together because up until that point pete rosell was the was the was the uh commissioner and then commissioner tagley who came in and then i left and then roger diddell come in and now there's no longer a partnership straight the partnership is between the owners and the networks.

50:49Shannon Sharpe:Those are the partnerships. And I don't think the owners wanted a partnership anymore. They didn't. And the first chance they got, what did they do? They locked y 'all ass out. And they say, we want a bigger piece of the pie. Back. Hey, but listen, this is what we got to do. I'm telling you, you need somebody that can play hardball with them. You need somebody that's going to go in there that's going to be for the players. That's going to be for the players and going to get what's right. Because as a former player, you know I'm going to do us justice. You know how I am. I'm going to tell you like it is.

51:28I'm going to say some of the things that people are thinking that they're not going to say in public. Yeah. We want lifetime benefits. Huh? We want to get rid of the franchise tag. Even though you may see it as a way to buy yourself time, it also is a way that you – it's disrespectful to players because you're basically saying we don't really value you. You don't bought time. Come on now.

51:58Shannon Sharpe:First of all, Ocho, normally if somebody's on that franchise tag, somebody gets to the franchise tag, they've already played four or five years. So they've already bought you time. You should know. So if you don't know what you have after four or five years, so you mean to tell me you need another year? Come on now. No, so what you're doing, you're basically betting. You're betting that something bad is going to happen to me. I'm going to have a bad year. I'm going to have an injury before I have to give you a long-term deal. That is exactly what they're doing. That's what you're doing. That's what they're betting on.

52:28That's what they're betting on. That's what their franchise does. They try to make it seem like it's a good thing. Are we going to pay these in top three, top five? But they told us, Ocho, it was kind of like the bird exemption.

52:38Shannon Sharpe:Right. Where you could sign your players, you know what I'm saying, because you wanted to keep a John Elway with the Broncos. You wanted to keep a Dan Marino with the Dolphins. You wanted to keep your top-notch players, your Emmitt Smith, your Bruce Smith. Right. You wanted to keep those guys there. Right. But they abused it. And now they're like, well, no, we just, what we're going to do, we're going to slap you with a tag. Or they would threaten you with a tag. Right. Mm-hmm. And so the problem is, Ocho, is that although, look, I know you're semi-serious and semi-joking, the problem that anybody has that's going to have when they come in and take over the NFLPA is not like MLB.

53:21Shannon Sharpe:It's not like basketball. Because when Marvin Miller, who was the head of baseball, when they say we're going to shut it down, they shut it down. when the NBA PA when they say we gonna shut it down they shut it down I'm glad you said that and the problem and so look everybody wasn't gonna make LeBron's money or Steph Curry's money but in order for you to get the money up

53:53Shannon Sharpe:what they did to him Ocho they sold him a bill of goods they say hey man Y 'all work hard, and then here's a rookie that's never thrown a pass. Remember Sam Bradford was the highest-paid player in the NFL? He had never thrown a pass. Got that 20, yeah. No, he got 50. Oh, it was 50. He got 50 million. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guaranteed. He was the highest-paid player and never played a down. Down, yes, sir. Well, let me tell you what the owners did. The owners said, we want to play players that have been established. We want to play the veteran players that money and make those guys that's coming into the league make them earn it.

54:28Shannon Sharpe:right and the players yeah yeah we're gonna get that money and guess what they do soon as you get to a certain day they cut you yeah now they got the rookies on a well wage scale and you don't get to get to the back end to get the bag you see how they did it oh yeah absolutely you see how they did it they got us they got you so now we got the rookies on capped here and on the back end of there thinking man i'm hey i'm gonna play blah blah blah nah gone so now basically you gotta live here yeah that's why that's what they listen that's why that first three years is so important maximizes as much as you can in that first three years and what's guaranteed what am i what am i really getting outside the assignment bonus what am i really touching them first three years because after that after that that first three years unless unless you that unless you that boy man listen here man the water the water gets really already plotting yeah we got some under this absolutely listen it's a business i think that's i think that's one of the one of the things no players they want they tell no it's a business for them oh that's what i was trying to say but see but the ownership has convinced the fans that if you don't take what they give you you selfish and you're not about winning.

55:45Shannon Sharpe:Bro, y 'all ain't won in 100 years. So now all of a sudden, because I won't take the peanuts that you're offering, now I don't care enough about winning. And the first thing they throw, because I've heard some people say, I've talked to some agents and people, the first name they throw up, guess who they throw up? Guess who name they throw up, Ocho? Give you one guess. Tom Brady. Yeah, but you have to understand, Tom Brady was in a special situation. Everybody else in the NFL is not married or dating someone that makes more money than the actual player himself. Tom Brady took less money. He was making$33.40 million a year.

56:19Of course I'll take less. Tom Brady took less money.

56:23Shannon Sharpe:Why you can't be like Tom Brady? Tom took less money in order to win. Well, I'll tell you what. And you know what I'll tell them? And when it came right down to it, they did Tom Brady like they did everybody else. Come on, now. Come on. It's Sunday. Go ahead and preach. I'm not going to stop you. end of the day as loyal as tom brady was yeah as long as he had played up under what he should have rightfully gotten they still showed him the door so at the end of the day no matter what i do so you know what i know at the end of the day you're looking to get rid of me but i'm gonna tax your pockets it's you say well let me hear i'm not the gm my job is to play now if you want me to help you construct your salary cap that's gonna cost you extra but in the meantime since that's not my job right my job is to tackle my job is to catch my job is to run block whatever the case may be on the football field my job is not to help you manage the salary cap that's your job and you tell me all the time you the billionaire you should be able to figure that out yeah absolutely absolutely but it's funny i don't think fans would be able to understand it from a player's perspective because they will always side with their team and their loyalty and the owner saying what they – and obviously the media obviously is – and most of the time the media is going to gravitate towards the owner's side as well, making the players look like they are selfish in certain circumstances.

57:47It's unfortunate. But again, I mean, just hypothetically speaking, I'm just throwing it out there. I mean, in a way I'm serious, in a way I'm actually joking, but I would love to be one to be in those rooms. in those rooms because you're not going to pull the wool over my eyes. You're not going to pull the wool. And I'm one of the ones, one of the few, who are going to say the things that no one else will say.

58:11Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, look, you have prosperity for another four or five years. Whomever comes in, guys, please, please start saving your money. no more homes no tell tell the wife no more extravagant purchases we got to put a war chest so that for because they're gonna lock us out oh yeah let me tell you why they're gonna lock because let me tell you what they did last time mocho they locked us out they locked y 'all out i was done i was done they locked you out yeah and once they got 10 more years they had three years left with the uh uh uh with the uh t broadcasting they went right back to the broadcasting and say we got 10 years of the labor piece we want to redo the deal and they did it now i'm not telling you what somebody told you i'm telling you what i know so what they're gonna do they're gonna lock you out yeah they're gonna lock you out now let me tell you who wants who wants a programming and they're playing a premium because we see what netflix play jake paul every time he gets on that network and we see what amazon's doing so don't be surprised in the next round you're watching it on amazon yeah you're watching it on netflix i'm talking about the sunday stuff oh yeah because they got more money than nbc they got more money than fox they got more money than cbs now i ain't telling what somebody telling you they got more money than espn oh they coming so let me tell you what they're gonna do they're gonna lock you out because he said when he took the job, he said in 20 years, they want to be doing 25 billion in revenue per year.

59:50Shannon Sharpe:I think they're about 19, 20. That's why you see they done added another game, Ocho. Not only did they add, guess what? They added another playoff spot too. You see how they did that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and everybody's like, yeah. That money got to come from somewhere now. Come on now. Got to come from somewhere. We added a playoff game. Guess what? That's what we did, Ocho. We added another game. That's 17. So we got an extra team in the playoffs and we got an extra game. Now what does commission keep throwing out there? 18, 18, 18. Oh yeah. He going to tease it. He going to tease it every time.

1:00:24But what's the one thing everybody talk about? They keep throwing flags all over the place. Player safety.

1:00:30Shannon Sharpe:Player safety. Ocho, Ocho. I ain't listening to nothing you say because all I see is the ratings going up. Every game, every year, the ratings keep going up. So fans keep talking about, oh, this is flag football. Y 'all keep watching. I don't know if y 'all noticed. Did you see how many people watched the Super Bowl last year? Did you see how many people watched the playoff games last year? So why am I listening to you? Yeah. Yeah. You're not. They will always watch, huh? No matter what anybody says. Now you see why Ocho, we don't get invited nowhere, Ocho. They can't. But I got to tell the people the truth.

1:01:06Yeah, I mean, listen, listen. I've always been the villain, I've always been the bad one I've always been the one not to follow the rules so I'm used to it

1:01:15Shannon Sharpe:Chad, now y 'all know why I've never been invited to a rookie symposium and Ocho and I, we don't get the perks of being able to go certain places and do certain things but it's all good, but at the end of the day I'm going to be honest with you, I'm going to tell you the truth, I'm going to tell you what I know because I've talked to people that was in that room that was negotiating. Yeah. Yeah. So if whomever the next head of the Players Association, please tell these guys to start saving their money. I'm going to start telling them that. We got to put a war chest together, guys. In order for us to get, we want guaranteed money and we want lifetime health benefits.

1:02:02Shannon Sharpe:We want to do away with that franchise tag the only way because they know how much money you got.

1:02:10Shannon Sharpe:They know.

1:02:15Shannon Sharpe:Everything that happens in Dallas, there's nothing that Jerry Jones doesn't know about. There's nothing that happens in Miami that Stephen Ross doesn't know about. There's nothing in an NFL town that those owners doesn't know about. Yeah. It's so funny. Literally know everything. Literally know everything. I'm not, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't know what service the NFL uses. I'm not sure what service the owners use, but being able to tell me what I did, I know being able to tell me I'm riding four wheelers in the off season with my homeboys down 12th Avenue. How do you know that you all the way in Cincinnati?

1:03:05How you know that? How you call my grandma and tell my grandma, hey, tell Chad to stay off in four-wheelers during the off-season, please? Tell him to start riding up and down. Wait a minute. Huh? Man, I'm a witness to it. They know everything. They know. Hey.

1:03:29Shannon Sharpe:Why you not in the bed asleep? Hey. What's up? what's up um i don't know which one that is that's teddy bear hey teddy bear you got to bring both them boys on and you got to bring both them on uh and uh i was like man and and the thing is don't you like i said they know yeah they know how much you pay and how much your home loan is they know how many kids you got how many going to private school if you got a divorce they know what you paid yeah hey hey speaking of i don't know speaking of divorce are we talking about um the cold play concert thing tonight no no damn because i'm trying to throw i'm trying to throw my head in um trying to throw my name over there huh what boy it's an opening what you talk about i want to be the ceo or astronomer yeah it is it's an opening what you talking about i like this you're gonna You're going to really love this.

1:04:26Shannon Sharpe:What? Arkansas sophomore wide receiver, Monte Harrison, is turning 30 years old this season. 30? Harrison played pro baseball for the past 10 years. Oh, okay. One of the main pieces in Christian Yelich trade to Milwaukee trade. The Arkansas wide receiver, Monte Harrison, will be turning the big 3-0 on August 10th. Ocho. Yeah. he's only a sophomore hey listen that means he could conceivably be playing college football until he's 32 that would be the same age as Patrick Mahomes hey that's in a sense now that you said he played baseball first for 10 years it's understandable the fact that he still has eligibility and he's trying to live out that dream I mean I doubt he gets drafted to the NFL but being able to go back and get your degree and finish off what you love or a second sport that you do love after already playing in the MLB, I mean, it's a dope thing.

1:05:30I don't know how good he is as a receiver, but even being able to do it with them young bulls out there at 30, I'm sure he's not that much better than everybody else, where it's like, oh, my goodness, why is he here? But just the fact that he is 30 in college, I mean, it's kind of how I understand it. Because you played 10 years in the Major League Baseball, So, listen, you have eligibility left. So, why not?

1:05:55Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I mean, if he go to the NFL, they can't get him but a six-month contract. Six-month? Yeah, his first contract. If they give him a four-, five-year deal, Ocho, he'd be 37. Well, you know what they'll do. They'll let him play one or two years, and they'll find an excuse. They'll find an excuse just to let him make history. Just let him make history. I want to see if he's, like, really good so he can go to the NFL. They're like, hey, well, you're graduating class. Man, my graduating class graduated seven years ago. Listen, if he was – Let me go to the NFL. I mean, no disrespect to him in any way.

1:06:33But if he was like that, if he was like that despite being 30, and you should have an advantage over the young players that are in college right now. They're just more mature. I don't know. That's about it. I've seen no highlights, no nothing indicating that he's the next coming of Jamar Chase or Ryan Williams in Alabama or Jeremiah Smith in Ohio State. He's nothing like that. You're playing 30, Ocho. I'm just saying. 30 would be your prime in the NFL. Ocho, he's a sophomore in college. I understand. So his prime is a sophomore in college. Right, but I'm trying to give you an example of where his skill, his skill level.

1:07:13He's 30, but he's not as good.

1:07:14Shannon Sharpe:He would be Kyler Murray. you see Kyler Murray? Yeah. Kyler Murray was the eighth pick in the draft. Hey, in between time, he said, you know what? I can make just as much money, if not more money, in the NFL. And it's quicker. Yeah. Hey. I mean, you know, you tip your cat, the guy would look. The guy had eligibility. Yeah. He tried baseball. That didn't work out hell. Whoa, whoa, what do you mean it didn't work? What do we tell people, Ocho? You said he played 10 years. In the minors, Ocho. Oh, okay. Listen, it's very, very difficult to make it to the beginning. Yes. Very difficult. You got to be, you got to be.

1:08:05The hardest thing to do is to hit a baseball.

1:08:07Shannon Sharpe:Who you telling? Who you telling? Because, shoot, you know. Bro, you hit 300. You hit 300, they pay you five, six hundred million. Let that sink in. You successful 30 % of the time. Name a job you can be successful. That tells you how hard that job is. Yeah. Imagine if you completed 30 % of your passes. You caught 30 % of the balls they threw to you. Or you held on to the ball 30 % of the time they handed to you. That's crazy. When I think about my slugging percentage when I was in high school, I batted at 282 my senior year in high school. That's crazy. hey the fact that i passed up the opportunity to go to the marlins at 97 after i graduated that that was dumb that was dumb damn you played the right sport because you didn't play baseball you didn't play baseball as a kid yeah i was a five tool i played a liberty city optimist co-sane yeah the tools was a hole a garden rake a shovel hey listen a bush axe listen i'm not i'm I'm not trying to talk trash.

1:09:14I'm not trying to be funny. But we hype up Sheeho Ohtani. I was pitching. Listen, I was pitching in home runs at Liberty City Optimus. I was Sheeho Ohtani before Sheeho Ohtani. There were no cameras back then.

1:09:31Shannon Sharpe:No, he was the first guy there really loud. Because if you go back and study some of those pitchers and you watch them in college, they could actually hit. Oh, yeah. But he was the first one that was like, well, look, I'm not going to come to your team. And it's kind of like Travis, like Travis, like Travis Hunter. Yeah. Like, bro, if y 'all not going to let me, I'm not going to your college. You're just going to make me play one side of the ball. Yeah. So go back and study some of those pitches and you will see they were actually 350, 400 hitters in college. God damn. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Bro. Oh, yeah.

1:10:07Shannon Sharpe:They were. they were really good. But man, Ocho, to hit that baseball, man, you got to be doing that thing, man. You got to be playing five, six years old. Because you can't be afraid of it. You got to see, hey, that curveball, that slider, that changeup. Hey, any of them balls. Hey, that cut fastball, that four seam, two seam. I don't know if you went in the batting cage. Forget the batting cage. You've been in the batting cage and had that ball come at you and you got to sit there. You got to sit there in the box. and the players, they so used to it, they just be nice and cool. Know how to time it up.

1:10:4295 miles an hour. Man, what the? The average human, the average human, you put them in the batter's box and as soon as the ball fly by, uh-uh, I can't.

1:10:54Shannon Sharpe:You swing that ball already in the catch of me.

1:11:02Shannon Sharpe:That's what happened though, Joe. When you swing, the ball in the catch of me. it it's so funny on tv the players make it look so easy and that's they do that's any sport the highest level those that do it i don't think they get enough respect from those that are watching from at home uh that talk trash about them on the couch all you struck out again not understanding you know how difficult it is to do what they do at that level i mean yeah um like a boxer yeah you watch you watch florida you watch some of these defensive fighters they hey they hey they know they'll throw a punch and they already know this was coming back yeah pop pop they already know hey that goddamn clinic that goddamn clinic Shakur Stevenson just put on the other night where everybody always talk trash about his fights you always running you're always running he comes in and does the complete opposite of what everybody says he did and put on a defensive clinic hell his defense was his offense the entire fight it was beautiful hey you saw you saw matt you saw our guy max holloway last night i saw a little bit of it oh you missed it man i'm sleeping man i was you were tired hey my boy my boy was retired i was messing with him scarface oh face was out there he hit me up with the eight lounge the smoke he had a show he had a show uh last night okay okay So he hit me up this morning.

1:12:29Shannon Sharpe:He wanted to go get something to eat. Yeah. He said, I said, what you got a taste for? Gris Cafe, please tell him you went. Man, that line's too long. I ain't waiting in no line. They be wanting you to stand outside and tell me I'll wait until you're order. I said, oh, hell no. But anyway, he called me. I said, what you got a taste for? He said, man, I got some seafood. I said, I'm allergic to shellfish. You know what this fool told me? What? Wait in the car.

1:12:58Shannon Sharpe:I said, man. Hell no. His face funny, man. Man, I said, face, man, get off my phone, man. But I said, I see you. Because I told him, I said, he wanted to do something later this afternoon. I said, well, I got nightcap. He said, well, I'll catch you next time. I said, well, I tell you what. When I come to Houston, show your boy around, he said, nah, I ain't got nothing for you. I don't want you nowhere near Houston. Hey, man, me and Face, we sat at a cigar bar, man, called the den. He told me. Remember, I did the show. Man, hell, I did the show from inside the cigar bar. Yeah. Man, we sat outside all day.

1:13:38All day. Hey, that was a good time.

1:13:43Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, this fool talking about, hey, was waiting in the car.

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