Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Bengals-Commanders + Browns name week 1 starter + Joey Bada$$ Joins | Nightcap

24:35Shannon Sharpe:is Jordy us.

24:39Shannon Sharpe:You got us, Ochoa? Yeah, boy. I'm sick than the motherfucker. Can you hear me? Yeah, I got you. Yeah. Yeah. How about them boys tonight? Boy, y 'all defense steals some trash. Wait a minute. Wait a minute now. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Now, we look very bad on the first two drives that the commanders had the ball. They took their starters out. But we look better from that point on. Let's be optimistic. Let's be optimistic about the situation. Oh, Joe, did you see how they ran down the field on y 'all? Yeah. I can tell you who blew the assignment. I can tell you who blew the assignment.

25:19Who blew the assignment? The Mike Backer. He didn't scrape over the top? He went underneath? He didn't scrape underneath? You know you can't get there underneath? He tried to shoot the gap. He tried to pull a Ray Lewis on him. What are we doing?

25:30Shannon Sharpe:What are we doing? And they did it twice. he did it twice and the guy bounced right outside and he gone we had a conversation last night I said Ocho I want to see their backs and it'll give us a better understanding why Brian Robinson Jr. is on the trade block well we see why he's on the trade block we saw those two backs from Washington now it makes sense I don't know how much you can speak for yourself but it makes a ton of sense to me it does make sense but obviously Brian Robinson we've seen what he can do and I just saw some reports obviously doing my little homework talking about he runs a little bit timid, not hitting the hole and just stuff like that.

26:07I'm not sure if the injury history is probably a cause of that, but obviously they like the young Bulls, especially Bill. He doesn't want to be called Jacob. His name is Bill. Bill. Bill.

26:20Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. You talking about Rodriguez? No, no, the other one. Oh, Kosky. Because what's his full name? The one that Jay Daniels got the ball back for? Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. If he say he want to be called Bill, I'm going to call him Bill. Okay. I mean, 30 rush attempts, Ocho, for 185 yards and two touchdowns. I mean, you look at it, the two top guys, 17 rushes between the two of them for 108 yards. And y 'all got to look. Lovu, everybody in the stadium, everybody at home knew the Bengals were not going to snap that ball at the 38 yard line on fourth and three except you. Yeah. And you jumped offside.

27:11Shannon Sharpe:Everybody nobody when they start doing all that motion when they bring the guy outside they bring him to the backfield then they sprint him out there. They're not running no play bro. They're trying to get you to jump off sides and you did it. Yeah. I get, Ocho, we get the Eagles last year. Remember on the goal line, and he jumped off sides like four or five times in a row? Yeah. And the officials say, you know, if you keep doing this, we're just going to award them to score. Okay, fine. They're going to touch push. They're going to score anyway. But in a situation like this, these kind of plays will get you beat.

27:47Yeah.

27:48Shannon Sharpe:Because guess what happened, Ocho? Didn't they go right down the field and score a touchdown? Yes, we did. Yes, we did. I want to talk about how good our offense looks, except that second series. That second series with Joe Burrow and the number twos. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why he did that. Joe know better. He pulled back all the running and scramming. Yeah, throw that thing away, Joe, because you don't want to take any unnecessary hits. Unnecessary punishment, yeah. And then he got bailed out again because O 'Brown got beat. And Wise just happened to horse call him. They're going to have to do a better job of protecting Joe.

28:19Shannon Sharpe:But, Ocho, your offense has to look good because that's where all your money is. So wherever your money is, that's the side of the football you're really going to have to win on. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Look at the Broncos, when we played in the 90s, TD, myself, John, Zim, Rod. Yeah. So that's where the money was. So that's where we had to be. That's where we had to be. Yeah. So, yeah, I thought your offense, you know, Joe was, I mean, Joe was what? 9 of 14, 62 yards. Jake Browning came in. But Jake Browning, you know, he plays well. When asked and given the opportunity, Ocho, he plays well.

28:57Shannon Sharpe:16-25, 159, two touchdowns. Desmond Ritter came in there, threw one pass. He was one-on-one for seven yards. But – and they were going down the field again, and then Josh Johnson threw a horrible interception. Yeah. Oh, Josh. Where's my dog there, man? Good to see Josh still out there, man, working and working and working. I like it. Yeah, yeah, hey. I mean, hey, he don't collect – he collect his own jerseys. And he ain't got no other player. He ain't got no other player's jerseys. You know, you trade jerseys, don't you? Hey, I just collect my own. He got my 14. Mm-hmm. I think he's been on 16 of the 32 teams.

29:3916 of the 32.

29:40Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like it. So, hey, so if he ever want to coach, he know somebody. Somebody somewhere. Hey, absolutely. Absolutely. And listen, when you play that long at that position, they will definitely give you a job.

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33:11Man, I'm doing good. How you doing? Man, I gotta say, like, y 'all really shoot the show this late? Yeah. Every time? We really shoot? Yeah, yeah, man. Let me ask y 'all, y 'all in L.A., huh? Nah, I'm in Miami. I'm in Miami. Oh, you're in Miami. Oh, okay, you see Miami, you know, that's that nightlife right there. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, Joe. Joe, I don't do the nightlife. I don't do the nightlife. So I take a nap during the day so I'm able to get up, you know, to be able to do the show. Okay. You see, you see, you understand the program. I don't understand the program. So I'm like, I'm over here fighting sleep.

33:50I'm like, yo.

33:52Shannon Sharpe:Well, you in that green room. I mean, like you developing pictures or something. Like you work for Kodak. My studio room right here is like, you know, part of my ceilings, right? Like, I had a little leak. Nah, you all good. But check it out. I never fixed it because I was like, you know what? I like that. It kind of reminds me of, like, the old days. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Keep you hungry. I keep it raw. I keep it raw. Tell us a little bit about the album. So, yeah, Lonely at the Top is out August 29th. You know, this project is, it was made in a short amount of time. I want to say this is probably like the fastest I've made a body of work.

34:34You know, I mean, a lot of things transpired for me this year musically. And it was really just kind of pushing my pen, you know what I mean? In a way where it's just like, you know, I'm just kind of eager to get the music out. You know, Lonely at the Top means to me is like, you know, kind of looking around and you being at the top of your success. and you're realizing like, you know, how, how much isolation you find it on the other side, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm sure you guys can relate, but like being on that life journey and, um, you know, you're dealing with things like survivor's guilt and, you know, you want everybody to come and things like that.

35:12But what you find on that other side, you know, for, for, for you to make it is like, you know, sometimes it's an isolating feeling, you know what I'm saying? Because you gotta block so many things out to maintain that balance, you know what I mean? So that's kind of like what this collection of music feels like for me is kind of like a reflection of where I am today, right now. Yeah.

35:40Shannon Sharpe:You get that a lot, you know, coming from the background, and I'm sure we kind of all come from very similar backgrounds, but no matter how big a bus is no matter how big a plane is there are x amount of seats and everybody ain't meant to fly on that flight somebody meant to catch the next one everybody meant to get on that bus they meant to catch the next one and so what we have to do what's hard sometimes is that is figuring out who's supposed to be a passenger on our bus who's supposed to be a passenger on our plane you know that's that that's i like you do feel bad because you like you said you've been around a lot of these people your damn entire life.

36:19Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, I got the analogy that I use is like the Aladdin's purple carpet. You know what I'm saying? Like if you got 100 motherfuckers on there with you, like you ain't going nowhere. Yeah, it ain't going to take off. It's your belly levitating off the ground. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm trying to go to the mountaintop. So it's like, you know, I got to keep it light. You know what I mean? So I could ascend and everything. Yeah. Hey, Joe, but how do you balance that? How do you balance that? obviously coming from where you come from, most of us have the same background and those that we work with.

36:49Once we start to send in our respective craft and whatever it is that we do, a lot of people trying to go along with us, they complain. Oh, you hating. You ain't real no more. You're not taking me on this journey that you yourself has been working to do. So how have you been able to navigate with those, when you have an album coming out, it's lonely at the top, but those that feel that they deserve to go along with you? Well, you know, if I'm being completely honest and completely transparent, I think that I am still on the journey of learning how to balance that. You know what I'm saying? I think I think it is a matter of continuing to find that balance.

37:27You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, different things do it. I think the strongest thing is putting God first. You know, like that is my grounding factor right there. It's like, you know, remembering God as often as I can on the daily and, you know, remembering that this journey is a predestined path, if you will. You know what I mean? And it's just like I am doing what I can at each given point in this journey, applying the wisdom that I can to to make the best moves. You know, I'm saying, you know, sometimes you might look like, you know, could I have done that better? but you know what that's part of the growth as well you know i'm saying as that's part of like reflection and all that it's part of it for sure yeah you're one of those old like now i don't know

38:18Shannon Sharpe:how many true lyricists that we have when i would you know and i hate i hate saying this not enough it's not enough that's my point because it used to be you know you had the krs ones you had to Kane, you had Rock Him, you had LL, you had Slick Rick, you had the Scarfaces, you had guys that was literally on point. And now, you know, it's different, but you want to take it back because a lot of the OG lyricists originated Brooklyn, the Boogie Down Bronx, KRF One, all those guys. Absolutely. Do you feel that's what's missing from hip-hop?

39:04I would say that, first of all, I would say that I don't like to look at it as I'm taking it back. I like to look at it as like I'm taking it forward. Okay, you advancing it. I'm living in this time, you know what I'm saying? And there's a Nina Simone quote that has always resonated with me. She said, like, you know, music is going to reflect the times. I'm paraphrasing it, but, you know, something along the lines of that. And, you know, always kind of stay cognizant of that because I think that we are in an interesting time, which is why the musical landscape looks the way that it does. Because as a society, we are prioritizing certain things and that's coming out in our subcultures, if you will, like especially the music.

39:52But if anything, I look at it as a purposeful position to be where I'm at and to represent what I represent. Because, like, you know, in a world full of just, like, godless behavior, just vanity and stuff like that, you know, I try to keep my balance by spreading a message when I can and being purposeful when I can and upholding a certain level of skill, effort into my craft. hey when you talk about that skill and effort and being able to maintain that balance when it comes to you know to being a lyricist the sound of music in general from the 80s to the 90s to the 2000s obviously to date 20 2010s to now the sound changes every 10 years right is it difficult for you to adjust to what the sound is at the time or do you just stick to your guns and say listen i don't care how what it sounds like right now i'm going to stick to what i've always done and what has worked for me?

40:50What do you mean? In all transparency, I've definitely found myself at certain points in my journey, you know, trying to adapt, if you will. But like, you know, where I'm at now, I think I'm at a space where it's like, I no longer necessarily care to adapt. I think what's important to me is being as authentic and true to myself as possible. Because I feel like in 2025, it's like, that's the best thing that you can do. Like, you know, with the internet. I think it was a little bit different back in the day because it was all about where you was from and things like that. But I think the internet kind of allows for people to be a little bit more expressive and not be so bound by where they are or where the culture is.

41:39You know what I mean? It's like we have people with classic sounds reemerge. Like you said, it's like the game changes every 10 years, but it also comes back every 20. You know what I'm saying? History repeats itself in an interesting way. So I think, you know, right now my focus is definitely just what is my authentic voice at this time? What is true to me at this time? What do I want to convey? How do I want to convey it at this time? And I think that I use that as my God and light, my North Star, and not like what the landscape of the game is per se. Like there's a small awareness of that. obviously because you got to know the league that you win you know you guys can relate to that you know saying you got to know the playing field or whatever but for the most part I play my game you know but that got that has to

42:30Shannon Sharpe:be hard because if you do something over and over again it's like I wish you give us something new and when you give them something new I wish they give I wish you go back to the old stuff because I see that a lot of times guys like man I wish you would do something else and when they do something else now all of a sudden man, I like the old stuff. So how does someone evolve if every time they give you something that you're not used to seeing, it seems like to me that the only person that they allowed to evolve was Beyonce because she went from one genre to a whole new genre and got more people and got women wearing cowboy boots and cowboy hats and Daisy Duke still at the concert again.

43:09Shannon Sharpe:But when it comes to rap and other genres, they won't let that artist get out of that box. It's more a picture hold. Yeah, yeah. I definitely agree with that. I think, you know, you got to do your role in blocking out the noise. OK, because, you know, what I've learned is that fans are fickle. You know what I'm saying? Like like what Jay said is like they love you and they hate you and they love you again. You know what I'm saying? It's like they don't know what you want, what they want. So I feel like as an artist, you always got to be doing for you. you know what I'm saying whatever is true for you at the time and even if because I'm definitely big and big on that idea of not making the same regurgitated thing and taking risks I enjoy taking risks you know what I'm saying uh and being experimental like I enjoy when I play a song for somebody and somebody's like that's you like that that that that okay yeah you like okay you like that surprise yeah because it's like okay like I've I did something that you didn't think I could do you know I'm saying it's like I'm breaking the mold that you may have over me in your mind you know I'm saying you didn't know I could I could go there but at the same time it's still me if you will you know what I mean but um yeah like I said just to answer your question is short though um you got to do for you you know it's funny too because I was just kind of having a mental thought and I'm like damn like who do I make music for and I'm like you know what like I really can generally say that I make music for me.

44:42Like I make the music that from my experience and that like, I kind of want to listen to, or I want to drive my car to, or I want to feel fly to, you know what I mean? And then it's like, everybody else is kind of secondary. And I know that might feel, that might sound a little funny, but that is, that was the thought that I had when I made my first body of work. Like there was nobody, there was no audience, there was no fans. It was just me and my four walls and I'm like, this is dope. Like, I think this is tight. You know what I'm saying? So I stay I try to stay as close to that that place. Listen, as long as you've been in the game and all the work that you've done over the years, I understand the politics that comes into the music industry.

45:27It's a very, very fickle, very, very dangerous industry from a political standpoint. if there's one that you would love to work with that you haven't worked with who would it be I would love to work with Pharrell he's got to go to the rooms because my phone is about to die telling y 'all I was I was fighting sleep Pharrell but yeah Pharrell is definitely somebody who I've always wanted to work with and we've crossed paths many times we just haven't been able to damn

46:02Shannon Sharpe:Joey did you play Did you pay your light bill? Oh, did I pay you? You funny. Damn. If I ain't nobody, that's where you like. Get a candle or something. Yo, yo, I don't think you heard. I don't think you understand. Like, it's bedtime over here. You know what I'm saying? Like, lights is out over here. Yo, where you at? Where you live at? I'm on the East Coast. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm up in New York. Okay. well you had the you you are at the uh the birthplace the mecca of hip-hop give me some of your early influences who who was influential to that joy like you know what i want to do that oh jay nas biggie mf doom uh pak black moon um Dang.

47:00J-Rooter Damager. I was a big J-Rooter Damager fan. Who else? Shit. Even R &B, man. Shit. Little shit. Even more new generation. Little Bow Wow. Yeah. I was a kid in that era. So, like, seeing Little Bow Wow do his thing did a lot for me. Because I was like, oh, shit. I could do that. You know what I mean? Yeah. People sleep with my boy Shad. Shad deserves way more. Bow was like that. He had a nice run, boy. He had a real nice run. Hey, Joe, you listen to Battle Rap? Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, yeah. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Battle Rap, you know what I mean? My man, Loaded Lux. Lux.

47:47Yeah, I just had a back and forth with the homie Daylight earlier this year, you know. Daylight, Daylight. Dottie is probably on my top five battle rappers as well, along with the other two names I mentioned. Yeah, and I love the battle rap culture, man. Yeah, I love that.

48:04Shannon Sharpe:So what's going on with you in the West Coast? What's going on? Yeah. Oh, we cool. We cool. We had a little, you know, lyrical squabble. Yeah. But, you know, it wasn't about nothing. It was just, you know, everybody wanting to show that they the best. Right. You know, so, yeah, we got down a little bit. It was fun, but it was all fun. I just didn't know you guys were still on that type of time. Yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, listen, it was all in good faith, and I'm grateful for that. You know what I mean? I made a statement at the beginning of the year, and one of my records and some rappers on the West Coast took offense to it.

48:47I didn't mean offense to it, but at the same time, I respected their perspective. Right. And, you know, we pretty much just traded some bars. Right. May the better pin win. May the better pin win. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed.

49:06Shannon Sharpe:Do you kick it with anybody or you're soloist? I am by nature now in this phase of my life. I do. I am solo a lot. But yeah, yeah. Like when you say anybody, you mean like rapper friends type of thing? Yeah, yeah. You got, you know, the homie that you kick it with. Oh, yeah. That's in the game. Like, you know, J.R.D. is a great friend of mine. Okay. Corday is a great friend of mine. Okay. Asap Ferg, Denzel Curry. Like, those are my guys for real. And then it's like, you know, I got a bunch of people just scattered throughout the industry that are really solid individuals and I've been rocking with for a long time for sure.

49:52You know how it is. I said, man, you get to a certain age. It's just not what it was in the early 20s and in your teenage years when you hang with people every day and stuff like that. We all got our own.

50:05Shannon Sharpe:The older I get, once you get to a certain age, you get to pick your friends. It ain't like when you were in elementary school, junior high and high school and everybody just surrounded. Oh, that's my friend. That's my friend. Right, right. You get older, you get to pick your friend. Absolutely. And you notice you pick less and less of them. Yeah, that's true. That's true, man. You got less time to vet them. No, that's a fact. I've always heard the saying, pick your friends like you pick your fruit. Because I'll be in the fruit aisle in the grocery store for a minute, like looking through. Yeah, that's why you got to wash your fruit when you get home.

50:41Shannon Sharpe:You hear what he's saying? He done had it in his hand. He done thumped it. He done tossed it up like it was a tennis ball. you gotta watch that Apple check this out you made your television acting debut on a US network you try to do any more acting oh not trying brother I am doing oh you doing absolutely doing I got some projects in the works right now that I can't necessarily reveal at the moment but I'm excited to share them when I can reveal like this really big project i'm really excited about that shoots in paris next year probably gonna be like you know one of my i feel like this could be like you know my real magnum opus in the film tv world you know um inshallah but um yeah you know raising canaan we still got one more season to go for that that's been a pleasure and then i had the netflix short a few years ago, Two Distant Strangers that won the Oscar.

51:45And yeah, a couple projects in development as well. So acting is definitely something that I take serious. Yeah.

51:54Shannon Sharpe:We want you to do us a favor. You know, Ocho is a lyricist. He goes to, you know, do I know you remember the movie Love Jones. Yeah. Trey Lorenz Tate. Lorenz Tate, excuse me. And Neil Long. so Ocho's been you know going to these you know this open you know these uh spoken words oh yeah yeah so uh Joey grade it we're gonna let you grade it because you know you're the professor and the lyricist and and great penmanship so uh grade Ocho's uh spoken word let's go Ocho let's do it hey listen Joey my pen is like that hold on stay less let me get in character I'm a little I'm under the weather right now let me get in character I bet do you What do you think, big dog?

52:44Long summer nights, they all come to play. They walking across the streets, acting like a stray. She has an umbrella, but it's not even raining.

53:03That's it.

53:09Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to give you one of those. Appreciate that. You got to keep it classy, man. The funny thing about it, the funny thing about it is people will hear what I just said and not be able to visualize what I'm talking about. There's a message behind that. Unless you're in that mode, in that spirit, and have that vision, you'll never understand what I say. So you go back and listen to it again with your eyes closed. then the people in the chat you'll understand where I'm going with it. Then it comes to life. Bingo. Yeah. Everybody can't. They don't have my vision. Everybody can't go.

53:47Everybody can't get on that plane. We just talked about that.

53:53Shannon Sharpe:He has a tour. Dark Aura. Starts off 25 City. Headlining kicks off October 16th in Boston. New album drops August 29th. Lonely at the top. Joey Badass. Stop back by and talk to us sometime. And let me ask you this. Let's do it. Who you got this year? Who you team and why? Who's my team?

54:19Basketball? Football. Football. Oh, like you guys probably hate me when I say this, but I don't really watch football, bro. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I'm the wrong person to talk to. I don't know what's going on in football. Who your basketball team is?

54:33Shannon Sharpe:Who your basketball team? team? Oh, man. Like, I'm always rooting for LeBron, man. I'm always rooting for LeBron. I'm a big LeBron fan, man. There you go. That's what we're talking about. We're going to get you out of here on that one. Joy, man. Best of luck. Continued success, man. Stop back by and see us sometime, bro. Absolutely. Sorry we're so late, but this was we came on after the game today. Next time, I'm going to make sure I get my power nap in, like Ochoa said. Yeah, yeah. We appreciate that, bro. Thanks for joining us. Good job. Much love. Joy, badass, Chad. You bought a sofa you didn't have to assemble.

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