Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Dillon Gabriel's SHADE at Shedeur Sanders

17 Aug 2025 · 1 h 8 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Unc and Ocho debate whether Saints QB Dillon Gabriel’s postgame comments were “shade” toward teammate Shadour Sanders, then pivot to other NFL QB battles (notably the Browns’ QB evaluation and the Colts’ Daniel Jones vs. Anthony Richardson situation).

Guests/backgrounds

No named guests appear in this episode. Hosts are Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) and Chad Ochocinco (“Ocho”). They also mention Melissa Jefferson Wooden (track athlete) as a future guest, but she does not participate in this segment.

Key claims

Gabriel played well overall but threw a pick-six due to a route/spacing breakdown; Ocho and Unc disagree on whether Gabriel’s “entertainers vs. competitors” quote was a deliberate shot at Shadour or just clumsy wording. They argue QBs can be both entertainers and competitors, and that Gabriel’s lack of media savvy makes intentional shade less likely (or, for Ocho, more likely because of the clarification).

Notable examples

Week-one/Week-two stat comparisons (Shadour 14/23, 157 yards, 2 TD, no turnovers vs. Gabriel 13/18, 144 yards, 0 TD, 2 turnovers including a fumble credited). Colts camp: Steichen says a decision is “very close,” with Jones leading a field-goal drive (7/11, 101 yards) and Richardson starting earlier (6/11, 73 yards) after a finger injury.

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Chapters

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Dylan Gabriel's Controversial Comments

0:00 to 0:34

The hosts discuss Dylan Gabriel's remarks and their implications.

“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”

Dylan Gabriel's Controversial Comments

4:54 to 6:08

The hosts discuss Dylan Gabriel's remarks and their implications.

“Don't miss your chance at a piece of history in this very, very special moment.”

Analyzing Competitiveness in Sports

6:08 to 12:09

A deep dive into the nature of competition and its relation to entertainment.

“i'm gonna let you take off you remember in oregon what the head coach said when they played colorado Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.”

Discussion on College Quarterbacks

14:03 to 15:36

Exploring the careers of various college quarterbacks, including Bo Nix and Dillon Gabriel.

“that was Bo Nix that was there when the coach, remember when they played CU Ocho?”

Analyzing Dillon Gabriel's Performance

16:34 to 28:00

A deep dive into Dillon Gabriel's recent performance and the implications of his remarks.

“Every episode we're trying to help our guests improve their careers by mainly focusing on how they can help us improve our careers.”

Quarterback Roster Dynamics

28:00 to 29:20

Discussion on the challenges of keeping multiple quarterbacks on an active roster.

“I can remember every scenario, there was always three.”

Coaching Decisions and Player Evaluations

29:20 to 36:20

Exploring the pressures head coaches face regarding player evaluations and personnel decisions.

“Now, you might have two quarterbacks and one of the practice squad guy.”

The Hardest Challenges in Life

36:20 to 38:30

A humorous take on finding a franchise quarterback, hitting a baseball, and maintaining long-term relationships.

“She done unplugged my, turned my lights off.”

Future Implications for Quarterbacks

38:30 to 42:04

Speculation on the upcoming quarterback decisions and the implications for the Browns' roster.

“So, and after the game, Stefanski, he refused to like, you know, I'm not doing this evaluation.”

Quarterback Controversies in Cleveland

42:04 to 43:00

Discusses the complexities surrounding the Cleveland Browns' quarterback situation.

“how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns.”
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Copenhagen's Tribute to American Grit

45:15 to 45:40

Copenhagen celebrates American history and its connection to tobacco.

“To honor our country on its 250th birthday, this can of Copenhagen goes out to those defending the free American soil that our tobacco has taken root in for over two centuries and counting.”

Analyzing Anthony Richardson's Performance

45:40 to 49:26

A detailed discussion on Anthony Richardson's preseason performance and prospects.

“saw his most extensive preseason action yet after sustaining a dislocated finger in week one against the Ravens.”

Quarterback Decisions for the Colts

49:26 to 56:00

Discusses the implications of bringing in Daniel Jones and the future of the Colts' quarterback position.

“No, that's what I think about you working.”

Analyzing Anthony Richardson's Potential

56:00 to 58:20

Discussion on Anthony Richardson's draft potential and physical attributes.

“You got to have the player, your team, if you respect you.”

Giants Quarterback Situation

58:20 to 1:00:40

Examination of the Giants' quarterback depth chart and Jackson Dart's performance.

“Giants rookie first-round draft pick Jackson Dart threw two preseason games.”

Justin Fields and the Bears Offense

1:00:40 to 1:06:00

Discussion about Justin Fields' performance and the Bears' offensive struggles.

“I think the ball, they have their mind made up that they're going to allow him to develop and allow him to sit back.”

Zach Wilson and Rookie Quarterbacks

1:06:00 to 1:10:01

Review of Zach Wilson's performance and other rookie quarterbacks in the preseason.

“You got to fix it now because he's in year what?”

Preseason Insights on Aston Gentry

1:10:01 to 1:11:38

Analysis of Aston Gentry's performance and attitude towards preseason play.

“I can't wait till football season because we're going to have some nice little side bets.”

Quarterback Dynamics in AFC West

1:11:39 to 1:13:10

Discussion on the strengths of quarterbacks in the AFC West division.

“well you might want to get word to him you got to pick and choose your battles you're not going to run through you're not going to run through people like you did at Boise State.”

Comparing Quarterbacks: Dak vs. Herbert

1:13:11 to 1:14:16

Debate over the skills and achievements of Dak Prescott versus Justin Herbert.

“I think for me, it's clear that it's the AFC North with, you know, you got two of the top four quarterbacks in one division.”

Comparing Quarterbacks: Dak vs. Herbert

1:16:03 to 1:16:36

Debate over the skills and achievements of Dak Prescott versus Justin Herbert.

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Comparing Quarterbacks: Dak vs. Herbert

1:16:40 to 1:17:03

Debate over the skills and achievements of Dak Prescott versus Justin Herbert.

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5:50Shannon Sharpe:after the game he made some very very interesting comments he said they're entertainers and they're competitors and my job is to compete he tried to clarify later at the presser saying he meant the media are the entertainers and a competitor and he's a competitor but and he wasn't taking a shot at the door but the damage was done everybody knows what he meant but because you know why i'm gonna let you take off you remember in oregon what the head coach said when they played colorado Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was the quarterback? Okay, okay, okay, okay. All right, go ahead. I don't want to do him like that.

6:28I'm going to give Dylan Gabriel a little grace, a little understanding, because I don't think a college kid coming in as a rookie in the NFL would take that kind of shot at a teammate that he's competing with for a job. I just don't see – I don't see it. I see it as him when he says entertainers in that aspect where he said it's the media. I'm not sure how he views the media as the entertainers, but the way the media stirs the pot and creates the ruckus and all he does is compete. I see I see it from that sense. I don't see him as I'm not even sure if he's that type of person, that type of type of individual even had that kind of savvy to say something like that publicly as brash in that moment.

7:12So I'm going to give him a little grace. I think Dylan Gabriel actually played well. He played well. You know what he did, those first few drives, driving the team down the field, he made some really good throws. He was poised in the pocket. He had command of the offense. Obviously, the pick six, for one, he has to see that. There are two people. Somebody ran the wrong route. Two people in the same place never happens. There always has to be spacing on all concepts when it comes to running routes. So as a quarterback, you have to see that. All right, there are two players in the wrong place. Don't make a bad play even worse by even throwing the ball.

7:47You should just chuck that out of bounds because you're already outside the pocket anyway. New down. So I think he's going to be fine getting those reps in. And it's all about making plays at a quarterback position. But how consistent can you be? And so sometimes there's a chance you can make something out of nothing, and sometimes you can't. and I thought he played okay. He played really well.

8:11Shannon Sharpe:I disagree with you. I think he was taking the shot at Shadua. You think so? When have we ever thought about the media those beat writers as entertainers? We've heard his coach. He was on the team when he said they're celebs. You can't tie him and his coach together as if they have the same mind as if they're one. You can't. Name the time you've ever heard someone say they're us entertainers and there are competitors and I'm here to compete. Tell me the time. Okay, listen. Let's say he's taking a shot at Shador, right? At what point has he been an entertainer? He's a football player as well. But we've heard people say that's what he's more interested in doing.

8:49What? I'm just curious. Okay, tell me what you're curious about. When you say he's more interested in entertaining, Shador is a quarterback. No, no, I'm not saying he is.

8:59Shannon Sharpe:I'm saying that's what people have said about Shador. Okay, okay. about entertaining, about the antics. Right, right. Okay, I see where you're going. I see where you're going. Plus, we've heard this before, and sometimes it seeps out when you've been around people and they perceive other people as that. If you're not careful, you'll repeat what you've heard someone say about someone. Okay, I see where you're going with it. Okay, okay, okay. He didn't have to say that. All he says, look, I'm here to compete. Whatever happens, happens. It doesn't matter if I'm first team, second team, third team, or fourth team.

9:32Shannon Sharpe:my job is to compete why did he have to throw the entertainer aspect in of it everybody's entertainer that's what football is entertainment everybody's entertainers yeah you're right you're right it's an entertainment sport it's entertainment he might have been taking a shot at me shit no i i know but hey he can't compete with you he can't compete with you i disagree chad i don't know what you guys think but i I think he was trying to take a solo shot because if he wasn't, why are you trying to clear it up? Why are you trying to clarify? Oh, because obviously once you say something like that, it ruffles all the feathers, and then it comes back to you.

10:12Why are you ruffling feathers, Ocho? It ain't nothing. You were telling me in the chat it's nothing. His choice of words, his choice of words, it ruffled feathers because that's probably not what he actually meant. I honestly think it was an honest mistake because he's not – let me stay with me real quick. Let me say something real quick. he is not media savvy with the mic in front of him like a Tom Brady he's not media savvy like a quarterback absolutely not a quarterback at the University of Oregon no no he's just not because if he was he wouldn't have said what he said there's a there's a way you go about doing things and he hasn't learned it yet he's not savvy like that yet sometimes you sometimes you get caught up

10:50Shannon Sharpe:in the moment you play it well it's the middle of the game Ocho you got to realize now you're right they're in that moment sometimes when emotion is high logic is low and you feeling good as a i a they're entertainers and i'm a competitor and competitors and i'm here to compete oh he's like oh if he if it meant nothing by that nobody would have nobody would have said anything about it nobody would have thought would not even thought would not even bat it an eye but they took it most people took it I believe the way he intended it that he's not fancy, he's not entertaining he's a competitor, I don't know what he thinks you're there to do, I believe two things they're not mutually exclusive Floyd Mayweather was an entertainer, but he was a competitor Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, they're entertainers, but they're competitors Steph Curry, all that dancing and turning around, he's shooting shots, and he don't even look at it before it goes in.

11:51Shannon Sharpe:That's entertainment, but he's a damn fierce competitor. Yes. So to try to make those two things mutually exclusive is just not true. I believe you can do both of them, but I believe he took it. Me, I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, I apologize, but I believe he took a certain shot at Shadour. I do. Honestly, you want me to tell you the truth, and I mean the perspective of Dillian Gabriel? I don't even think he has the balls to be able to say something like that. out the blue. That's how I know. I mean, he doesn't carry himself like that, especially coming out of college. If he was that type of player, if he showed that kind of...

12:27Think about this. Think about Johnny Mazzell in college, right? Think about Jason Mayfield in college, right? Now, if it was one of them that said something like that, I'd be like, yeah, he's definitely taking a shot at your door. But he's never shown any signs of being as Brad.

12:43Shannon Sharpe:When has he ever been in competition? When has he ever been in competition? He wasn't going to beat Justin Herbert out, so he wasn't in competition. When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition? Yeah, go ahead and sip your tea, coffee, whatever that is. Latte. Latte. Latte. Latte. Yeah, go ahead and sip that. Now, back to our originally scheduled programming. When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition? I don't even. Exactly. Because think about it. How many yards has he passed for? Do you know how long you got to be in college to pass for the amount of yards that he's passed for?

13:21Shannon Sharpe:Justin Herbert's been in the league how long? Because didn't he take off with Justin Herbert? In 2020. So Dylan Gabriel has been in the league. He's been the starting quarterback since what, 21?

13:36Shannon Sharpe:No, he came from Oklahoma. Didn't Gabriel come from Oklahoma? He transferred from Oklahoma. So he's been – If he transferred from Oklahoma, are you telling me he ran from competition? No, he ran to the money. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. One, two? Oh, so he started at UCF. Oh, he started at UCF for three years. He was two years at Oklahoma, and then he spent one year at Oregon. Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, that's Bo Nix. That was Bo Nix. I apologize. that was Bo Nix that was there when the coach, remember when they played CU Ocho? And the quarterback, what did he say, Instagram?

14:22Shannon Sharpe:Someone who tried to get followers, they tried to get clicks and followers, and we tried to win football games. Oh, that's right. That was the Oregon coach. I remember that. That was the Oregon coach. I apologize. That wasn't Dylan Gabriel. That was Bo Nix that was his quarterback at the time when he said that. Okay, okay, okay. But again, for me, when was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition? He was three years at UCF. He was two years at Oklahoma and one year. So in six years of college football, yeah, three years at UCF, two years at Oklahoma, one year at UCF. Only goddamn time.

15:04Shannon Sharpe:Man, them guys getting seven and eight years, Ocho. You see the guy 32 with a COVID year. so it gave everybody an extra year if you wanted it. But listen, obviously. What did the chat say? Did the chat believe he took a shot? I didn't even open my phone. Hold on. I'm curious to see what the chat would think. They are saying.

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18:23The chat is saying, I believe he's throwing shade. I thought football was a brotherhood. I've never seen him do that. Don't need it. He lost his job at OU. he got hurt of you oh shoot well i wait it's it look like it's like a mix it's a mix on how everybody feel go ahead you want something go ahead we we put the we're placing the poll up

18:49Shannon Sharpe:i just think the thing here was look and i think the thing is because ocho what it is is normally we don't get this we don't normal normally be interviewing especially if you're playing during Yeah, it's different now. Normally they get you, you know, in the preseason game, if you're not playing, they'll get you, hey, can we get a few words? Yeah, I'm excited. You know, got some work in, knocked some of the dust and rust off, and now it's time for the younger guys and other guys to get an opportunity to know what they can do. I'm sure the coaches are excited about that. Hopefully everybody came out injury-free.

19:20Shannon Sharpe:We'll see after the game, so forth and so on. But hell, everybody out there to compete. I mean you do realize like in pro sports it's all about hey it's all about competition I think I think whether you competing in your locker room or you competing against the other locker room but you always in competition hey listen every every week every week yes every day you know I think he understands that that's why I said I'm giving him grace and now I think you giving him too much credit you giving him too much credit for those of the people that think he was actually taking it taking a shot at shador i think we're giving him too much credit to think he would come out and do something like that publicly or to even slip up or even you know i just don't i just don't think that's him oh oh 88 said it was a shot 12 said it was not well maybe y 'all see it different maybe y 'all see it different because i wouldn't fade it like that honestly you know i mean i mean if you're gonna say something you know if if there if there's no address on it it don't have no destination.

20:24If there's no address on it, it doesn't have a destination. So I'm not doing no riddles and saying, you know, Dr. Seuss or Cat in the Hat. How about this here?

20:39Shannon Sharpe:Coming out, how many front office people you think said exactly what Dylan Gabriel said? He's more into entertainment and doing all this and all those antics that competed. okay, listen, I'm picking up what you're putting down now. Now you're making a little sense to me. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I don't like that because that's a part of the game. It's always been a part of the game. It's never been a part of the game at that specific position, though. Correct. At that position, it's frowned upon. Always. Always. ways because when you pick that position and you pay him the kind of money you pay him not only you represent the shield you represent the team and the organization as well you are the face of a franchise decade more yes so i understand right now okay i'm with you now i'm with you i'm with you um you look at his dad he was the ultimate entertainer but was one of the most one of the fiercest competitors he believed that you know what prime time that's what you paid to see you paid me to see all the antics that you know hey get it up you know he dancing before they put him or kick the ball to him he got the ball up behind he got his hand behind his head i gotta entertain y 'all it ain't it ain't it ain't good enough for me to just get a pick it ain't good enough for just no no no no no no no no no no that's not enough you can get anybody who knew that I want to be outgoing I want to be braggadocious thank you I want you to know who and what I am that sounds familiar don't it yeah the stats week one Shadul was 14 of 23 157 two touchdowns Dylan Gabriel was 13 of 18 144

22:41Shannon Sharpe:total yards total yards okay 157 total yards, 144 for Gabriel. Shadour had two touchdowns, no turnovers. And Dylan Gabriel had no touchdowns and two turnovers. He had a pick and a fumble. Look, I thought he played, like you said, I thought he played a good game with the exception of the turnover, that bad interception. But you know the thing I noticed? The first thing I said, I said, damn, he tiny. He's small. You think he's fine? I'm like, oh, my goodness. Baker height? No, hell no. He wish you – man – man – huh? They list him at 5 '11". 5 '10". Bryce Young is – yes. He's about the same. So, obviously, the fans – and the way that – they would run a completely different offense if they had Dylan Gabriel starting as opposed to Shador.

23:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you got to roll him out because he's small. You need to put him outside so he can see clean pocket. You got to roll the pocket. You got to roll the pocket. or, boom, have him in the goddamn gun all the time, one or the other. But if Baker Mayfield could be successful doing it, obviously a bit of weaponry around him. I mean, he should be able to succeed as well. Yeah, Baker, man, I don't think people give Baker enough credit. Baker is a really good thrower in the football. You don't win the Heisman Trophy like he did, get that team to the college football playoff, and now that he's in a system and now he's with coaches that allows him to be Baker.

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24:17Shannon Sharpe:He's been to Pro Bowls. Baker is a better thrower of the football than I think we give him credit for or we gave him credit for, especially now that he's in a system and he's with coaches that believe in him and will allow him to be himself. We'll see. Look, Dylan Gabriel did throw for a ton of yards. I will not take that away from him. Over 16 ,000 yards. i mean hell he played six years so he's i mean damn i'm like you are like damn six years so how is he if he plays six years he gotta be like 24 already possible no oh yeah no they got he's 24 ocho i was i was 21 i turned 22 after i got drafted so he already i mean so hell he bryce young age he might be older than Bryce.

25:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he Bryce Young age. He's got to be Bryce Young's age. Damn. That's funny. That's funny. Like, I'm baffled. I'm appalled. You baffled. Hold on. Let me see what you baffled. Are you baffled that he played six years and he's 24? Or are you baffled that the Chad believes, along with that I believe, that he was taking, she was throwing shade or taking a shot at she was doing. Yeah, and she was both. Or all of the above or some of the above? All of the above. Because honestly, I think y 'all giving a motherfucker. Oh, dog it. Y 'all giving somebody too much credit. You giving too much credit. Too much credit.

25:52To say I'm going to be brash enough to sit here and talk about someone that is on my team and take a shot and not in there. And then, no. That's giving him too much credit as if he's a mastermind and media savvy and knowing how to nap. No.

26:06Shannon Sharpe:That's the point. He didn't think about it. He didn't think clearly enough. Sometimes we have to be careful of what we say around others because guess what? We get on here or we get on TV and then something that we're talking about in the barbershop or we're talking about it, it'll come out. Because sometimes you forget where you are. Yeah. I think, listen, young Bull, he played well outside. He played good. The interception for six and the fumble, in which it wasn't his fault on the fumble because the guy – I'm looking at the replay. I'm trying to figure out why the running back ain't got his goddamn – man, open your arm.

26:43What is you doing? And he looking straight ahead instead of – come on, man. Tighten up, man. But outside of that, listen, hey, who they play next week?

26:56Shannon Sharpe:Who do Browns play? It's the last game. You ain't got to tell me twice. I heard you before you even – And they normally play on – they're probably going to play on Thursday, right? They play Saturday. Play Saturday against the Rams. Hey, man, listen. All hands on deck. All hands on deck. I'm not sure what they're going to do. I'm not sure what they're going to do. I'm excited. I'm excited because I love a healthy competition. I love a healthy competition. I don't believe they're keeping all these quarterbacks I don't Ocho Well hey listen I mean The Saints never mind I ain't gonna do that I ain't gonna be rude I'm not gonna be rude I'm not gonna be rude Do you believe they're gonna keep all these quarterbacks Honestly I'm gonna be honest with you You played the game a very long time I played the game a very long time I can't remember a scenario where there were four quarterbacks on the team.

28:02I can remember every scenario, there was always three. Always three. So if there was an odd man out to me, thinking, it would be yes, if there was going to be one. And that's simply maybe because of the injury right now and not being able to showcase much. And no disrespect to Kenny. You had an opportunity at Pittsburgh. obviously in Philly there's no way you're going to start in front of Jalen Hurts but I mean why would they not keep it? Yes baby yeah

28:40Shannon Sharpe:I agree wait till the food comes for your food, your chicken nuggets four quarterbacks New England kept four quarterbacks in 2000 but it's a different time now Coach Belichick said he was worried that if he released Tom somebody was going to sign him And that's exactly what would happen. And you got to say, and you would have to sign him to the actor. They would sign him to the active roster. So he didn't want to run that risk. So they stashed four quarterbacks.

29:11Shannon Sharpe:But I agree with you. And in this situation, the way it's currently constructed, I don't see a scenario where you keep four active quarterbacks. Now, you might have two quarterbacks and one of the practice squad guy. and then you let's say for the sake of argument somebody get nick you might bring him up you might elevate him but to have four active quarterbacks and that means you're going to probably have to go without a wide receiver or swing offensive lineman or rotational defensive lineman or cornerback and one of those and those guys are guys that can play special teams those are the guys that can play the punt punt return kick kick return your quarterback's not doing that and so basically if you keep that many positions he can only he's only playing one position where the other guys that i mentioned other positions can play two positions so because normally you you're a guy that can play the guard he can play the tackle if need be he can play the d tackle he can play the dn but he can also be on field goal field goal block things of that nature why we talk about we don't know who they're gonna take Let's play goddamn devil's advocate then.

30:23Let's play devil's advocate. Haslam already said what he got to say. Andrew Barry knows that he's a genius in being able to get Shadour in the fifth round. You Stefanski. Who you want?

30:40Shannon Sharpe:Whoever Haslam won't.

30:46Damn. You for real? You for real? Yeah. Wait, as a head coach, you're going to choose just because of whatever personal vendetta Hazler may have to say some of the things he said, you're going to put your job on the line for somebody you know isn't better than the person that he doesn't want?

31:09Shannon Sharpe:If that man said that, let me ask you a question. Did you ever get a physical copy of your check or was your money always direct deposit? But I got the, I went upstairs and always got the physical. I'll tell you what. When you went to OTAs and you got those with those deposited, because last I checked, when I got my check, it always say the Denver Broncos football club. And that thing to the left, it said Pat D. Bowman. Okay. That thing said the Cleveland Browns football club. Jimmy, probably Jimmy and D. Haslam. Now, you want to ask me that again? Which one do I want? I got you. Okay. I got you.

31:50You know what? Okay. The fact that I sat here and forgot, the person that said what he said and the position of power that they were in, my bad. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. But again, maybe that's the problem. Can I ask you a question? With my lack of knowledge and knowing Mr. Haslam like that, how long has he been?

32:15Shannon Sharpe:He brought it from the learner. I think he brought it from, he's been there probably what 15 years Ash? I think he's on the Browns for about 15 years he's on it for a minute. So he's been there 15 years At least 15 years later they're still looking for a what? QB But we're supposed to take it okay don't worry about it you're right 13 years So he's been there since 2012 From the Lerner family right? But we're supposed to take his work Okay. Well, I mean, in the Lemony Snicket series, a series of unfortunate events happened. You know, they thought they had their quarterback.

33:03Shannon Sharpe:I went to the movie with Jim Carrey. My daughter, she's read it. She read the whole series. That's what she got for Christmas one year. They thought they had their quarterback, but it was a series of unfortunate events. that, you know, shoulder, Achilles, and things of that nature. But it's not easy. It's not easy finding a quarterback. Actually, it might be the hardest thing to do in professional sports. It is. I think, you know what? Can I say something real quick? Go ahead. Can I say something real quick? I'm going to give you the three hardest things in life to do. Hey, Chad, y 'all write this down too, Chad.

33:42I'm going to give y 'all two seconds to grab a pen. The three hardest things in life to do. number one is the NFL team finding a quarterback that can be a franchise quarterback for 10 years or more okay that's one number two trying to hit a baseball coming at you 95 miles an hour on a consistent basis that's two three okay try keeping a woman happy long term outside the honeymoon phase

34:25Shannon Sharpe:I knew you were going to say that last one three hardest things to do in life now you got some some couples you know they be 15 oh we've been doing this 15, 17 years yeah yeah pretending you ain't fooling me you smile behind closed doors you're arguing I can't stand you don't get me started I sat next to a married couple today they've been married 32 years so I I was nosy you had to ask them how y 'all been together that long I had to be nosy I say well out of the 32 years you've been married how many of those years have y 'all been happy

35:06you want to know how many years of those how many of those years she's been happy or they've been happy together how many the first three

35:16Shannon Sharpe:I don't think any couple can say they've been happy their days if a couple tell you they've been married 10 years 15 years 20 years that they've been happy all the year no they're days not there are more days that I'm happy that I'm sad or disappointed I think I just don't have that kind of time because I don't want to switch topics to be on football I was just using that analogy and just bringing in context to it couple. Yes. And he said, the husband said to me and the wife, they were in agreeance and I was enjoying it. It was like I was their therapist. And I said, they said the honeymoon phase lasted for three years in the marriage.

35:54And after that, we're just, we have just been, I forgot the word she used. She used the word when, when you just, gosh, I forgot the word she used.

36:05Shannon Sharpe:Working, cohabitating. That's the word. We're just cohabitating. And I don't want to start over and i refuse to deal with anyone else so we and it's lasted 32 years i'm like well god well god damn well congratulations to y 'all but can i tell you what i got from that what i don't care because i'm getting married anyway i think the thing is ocho and you see this a lot i mean you see a lot of couples do this the kids get out the kids get out of high school the kids graduate college what they do they split they go to oh there's because sometimes because sometimes they look at it like well we ain't really got anything else to be together for now the kids grown but you think people stay together you think people stay together when they know that's just sure absolutely absolutely yes yes yeah what hey you you're not talking not our people you talk about the other side sometimes stay together but i'm saying yes people stay together for kids hey hey sometimes sometimes it's sometimes it's easier to stay together because you know you can pool your money together it's going to be much harder apart

37:15you see this a lot

37:17Shannon Sharpe:in the professional settings

37:22Shannon Sharpe:what women will tolerate in a professional setting when the money is listen come on the the longer the money No, no, no. Wait, wait. Hey, baby. What you doing? Hold on. I'll plug it up for you. Hold on. She done unplugged my, turned my lights off. The longer the money, the longer the leash. It's always been that way. And if you, depending on how serious it is, the longer he's with you, and if you happen to marry him, and then they're, oh no, you're good. What you crying for? Oh my goodness. No, you're good. You're good. I'm going to plug it up. The longer you're with him, and they're ready to leave, as long as they're taking something with them, they're taking something with them.

38:05They're not leaving without it, not without that lifestyle.

38:07Shannon Sharpe:Right. Yeah, I mean, you know Hagel. The game is the game. It's always been the game. You got to learn how to play it, man. That's all. Come on. You want to charge him? So, Shador, week one, 14 of 23. He had 157 total yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. Dylan Gabriel, week two, 13 of 18, 144 total yards, zero for two, zero touchdowns, two turnover, six, and a fumble that was credited to him. So, and after the game, Stefanski, he refused to like, you know, I'm not doing this evaluation. Well, who played this or who did better than that? We'll go back, we'll look at the film, and we'll do our proper evaluation.

38:49Shannon Sharpe:And we'll, you know, it'll be interesting to see, Chad, when they hit the field on Monday or Tuesday, when they're back at a regular practice, what is the

39:01Shannon Sharpe:sequence? One, two, three, four. What's the slot? Where are they slotted? Where are the quarterbacks slotted? Maybe that tells us something. Maybe that tells us nothing. We don't know. Who starts week three? How much playing time do they get? Does he get in week three? it's going to be very, very interesting to see

39:33Shannon Sharpe:their eval their evaluation from week one to week two I'm sure there are some things both guys did extremely really well, some things they would like to have back I'm sure the coaches give them a rundown of what they would like to see them do better but overall I think both guys played extremely well and should feel proud of the performance I'm excited I'm excited I'm excited to see what happens I wouldn't want to be I wouldn't want to be a Browns personnel I wouldn't want to be Stefanski because listen depending on who they pick and who they choose the backlash that they're going to get it's going to be crazy it's going to be crazy I'm not I'm not sure Stefanski has any control over the final three Well, honestly, if he did, how is the head coach not going to have control over who he's going to put out there on the field?

40:23He's the one got to coach him.

40:26Shannon Sharpe:Easy. You think, you think, you think Ryan Schottenheimer had control of the 50-53 in Dallas? You think McCarthy got - That's a different circus. That's a different circus. Are we trying to win? Are we trying to win? There's a difference. you have to like come in with you have to be Andy Reid to get that Mike Tomlin you got to put some years unless you're like highly sought after now yeah

41:02Shannon Sharpe:Sean McVay Kyle Shanahan you're naming all the coaches they're allowed to pick the players they want because they're successful do you know why they're successful because of the players that they have they're successful because ownership let them let you stay out of their business okay go go that's your food that's your food jim harbaugh right oh yeah he's another one are they they're consistent winners no matter where they are and he came so sought after so you have to give up something besides money in order to tice him to lead the University of Michigan.

41:47Ben Johnson came highly touted.

41:51Shannon Sharpe:He was offensive coordinator for the Lions, the Bears. You got to give him something to get him to lead besides money. And so it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns. but I don't believe, Chad, I don't believe there's no way all four of these quarterbacks are on the roster, the active roster opening day. We could find out a little bit more because there might be a situation where Kenny Pinkett doesn't even take a snap in the regular season.

42:31Shannon Sharpe:And it's going to be interesting. That's all I can say because, like I said, it would have been interesting to see if all these quarterbacks were healthy. Uh, excuse me. If Shadour starts, um, if Pickett was healthy, would Pickett have started? Uh, we, we don't know and we won't ever know because guess what? The game's over with and who started is who started. But I don't believe opening day, all four of these quarterbacks are on the active roster. You bought a sofa you didn't have to assemble, a suit someone measured just for you. And now you're taking a guy's trip that actually matters. You've upgraded a few things in life.

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45:44Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Anthony Richardson Sr. saw his most extensive preseason action yet after sustaining a dislocated finger in week one against the Ravens. Richardson completed six of 11 passes for 73 yards, but his numbers were undermined by penalties. He started 5 of 6 for 64 yards, leading a 90-yard touchdown drive with crisp passes. Offensive penalties derailed the next two possessions, including negating a 38-yard completion. Daniel Jones started the game and let a field goal drive, completing 7 of 11 for 101 yards. Colts head coach, Shane Steichen, strongly suggested after the game that a decision is imminent.

46:23Shannon Sharpe:Imminent? in his team's month-long quarterback battle. I've seen, obviously, three weeks of it, so I'd like to have a decision here shortly. I'm very close. I'll say that. I'm very, very close. Ocho, who's week one starter? I mean, honestly, the way it's looking, you know, it's Daniel Jones. It's Daniel Jones. I think even if Anthony Richardson's finger hadn't gotten hurt, I think that's what they want to go with all along anyway. I think there have been issues there with him the first two years. Obviously, they haven't seen the improvement necessary, especially with year three always being the make or break year.

47:06I'm assuming so, especially with the way that the coach is talking. I don't like it. Then you sign Daniel Jones, one year,$14 million, that much, one year. they definitely were going in the other direction regardless of what Anthony Richard would have done in camp or what he would have done in the game. How much better are you going to be from the first two years coming into the third?

47:32There's only so much work. It's not going to be a miracle. You look a certain way year one, you look a certain way year two, and then all of a sudden year three you're going to come back and just be, oh my goodness.

47:45Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but that's what they were expecting. They were expecting a monumental jump because, Ocho, you're in your third year in the system. Okay, understandable. Understandable. And he got hit in the face with a blitz that he should have got hit in the face with as a rookie, not as a third-year vet. Right. And so, look, like I said, Ocho, we're not there. Chad, if I was there, if I was there and observe in practice, I'd be able to tell you who I think should be the starting quarterback. But unfortunately, all the thing I can do is base it on what we've seen thus far. And look, and I don't think it's like, it's a situation where like, oh, this is, oh, this is etched in stone.

48:30Shannon Sharpe:I don't think it's one of those situations. But I think it's a situation where, you know, like you said, At some point in time, you're going to have to give one of these guys the majority of the ref. So you can't keep it. You already know where they're going. You know, the game they plan. You knew the game they were playing when they brought Daniel Jones in for that for that amount of money. For that amount of money on a one year deal. I already knew the game they were playing. What, baby? Papa. OK, OK. I'm going to call Papa for you. She wants you. Uh

49:12Shannon Sharpe:So you got Daniel Jones. It's interesting chat. Y 'all think it's gonna be Daniel Jones. Y 'all think it's gonna be uh Anthony Richardson senior.

49:22Shannon Sharpe:It's not like either one of the guys just blowing you away. I mean she where you you you upstairs. Yeah, yeah, she's uh she's all right i'm gonna just come come to 14 17 14 14 17 all right i want to see all right papa i'm coming to get you because you're not letting daddy work daddy working

49:57Shannon Sharpe:you want you want to move she said i don't get to see daddy that much it began with so I don't care about you working. No, that's what I think about you working.

50:10Who did – oh, here it is. How about coming, okay?

50:15Shannon Sharpe:They played the Packers today. Hey, were you able to watch all the games? No. Yeah. They need to put the games on one channel. Well, first of all, Ocho, you know it's the preseason. So basically you're going to get only the only you'll be able to watch the local game.

50:39So.

50:40Shannon Sharpe:But I guess, you know, they got it. They're going to have it fixed where you'll be able to once you play, pay all that money. Go cost you about two thousand dollars to watch all the games that much. And, you know, yeah, you got to get every streaming service. Everything is not everything is on one service now. right or am i tripping i thought that was the whole point you tripping you tripping

51:12oh man i'm excited bro so daniel daniel jones started the game huh

51:20Shannon Sharpe:or they or or at the richardson started the game i think daniel jones did start

51:31Shannon Sharpe:one was seven of 11 for 101 yards. Anthony Richardson was six of 11 for 73 yards. I think that's Riley Leonard, seven of 12 for 64 yards.

51:47Shannon Sharpe:David Jones started. He started, okay, he started game two. Anthony Richardson started game one. Okay. so they went back and forth to make sure each person got the opportunity and and he says yeah i think he says uh i've i've seen obviously three weeks of it so i'd like to have a decision here shortly and i'm very close i'll say that i'm very close i think he's seen enough damn i think he's I think he has his mind made up that who he wants to start. I'm leaning towards you. Why bring a guy in to make$14 million and to have him be the backup? Totally. Totally. It's not like Daniel Jones had his pick of choices.

52:38Shannon Sharpe:Not for that kind of money. Absolutely not. But that lets you know how in dire need of a quarterback that the Colts were. you saw what you saw you saw what you saw in New York and say you know what we're going to bring you in to compete because we don't think our quarterback going into year three has figured it out just yet but hell you didn't figure it out when you were in New York but we think you're going to come here and all of a sudden something's supposed to change so two wrongs don't make it right

53:12Shannon Sharpe:twofold I think they really want because if they bring a quarterback in for a million let's just say for the sake of argument they bring a backup in and they're gonna pay him four million dollars you're not gonna take that serious man i ain't going on no bench for no guy making 14 for four million you bring a guy in making 14 14 now you know they're serious sitting on the bench i can tell you that 14 is not sitting on the bench they talk about quarterback controversy they talk about quarterback battle there is no quarterback battle if the quarterback coming from another team makes that kind of money on a one-year deal?

53:48Shannon Sharpe:He probably making more than Anthony Richardson this year. What's Anthony Richardson-based salary this year? Only in his third year. Unc, it's not that much? Yeah, because his contract is fully guaranteed, but he got probably the most of his money on the signing bonus. So he probably got$25 million on the signing bonus, Ochoa. So Anthony Richardson probably making what,$8 million this year?

54:13Right.

54:17Shannon Sharpe:$4 million? He make it$3.8. You know what? So one guy make it$3.8 million. The other guy make it$14 million. Do you think they're going to put the guy that's making$14 million on the bench? You know what I don't like, though? Hold on. Is his money guaranteed? Did they guarantee his money? No. Jones. Yo, he don't. Anthony Richardson got$34 million guaranteed. His money guaranteed. He got$22 million aside, so he going to get that final 12. You know what? I'm mad because Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like Josh Allen. Let me get this out. Go ahead. Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like Josh Allen.

55:02Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like our new version of Cam Newton. like that's the kind of potential and and and and like i don't i don't know at what point what went wrong or what's happened if he's not focused if he's not locked in after this year after this year anthony richardson is supposed to be going to the table for one of those 250 300 million dollar deals yes i agree that is what i saw in him coming out of florida based on the eye testing what i'm looking at all the intangibles does everything right

55:42Shannon Sharpe:except the mistake i didn't see that i was shocked i was shocked that he moved up the draft board i like but see ocho go back and watch the tape right you see you see what happened now you see how some people watch tape and then somebody go by the combine if you look at his if you didn't know anything about it and all you did was watch the combine you'll understand now go back and watch his tape in florida

56:16hey well yeah you you did tell me that you did tell me that go back go back and watch his

56:22Shannon Sharpe:but if every area but those measurables were so hard to pass up to ocho six four 245 running 4-4 can throw the ball 80 yards which is what which is what i said with the measurable you take the measurables right the reason that they went up to go grabbing the draft and if the measurables put up with the play on the field after this year three season they coming to see you you finna tear the house down you finna tear the house down that's how that's how i'm visualizing and i can't i can't believe i don't know at what point and if if you don't get it here if you get beat out by brother daniel jones yeah then a day a day like that like in what i'm visualizing if i was anthony richardson it's not happening it's not happening well yeah well yeah they would they would never they're not bringing Daniel Jones in because I'm going to do you do everything you do what you're supposed to do you're not the last in in the first down so that's it that's it that's in a bad message there Ocho I don't know man you think maybe it's focused somewhere else and not just don't start me like I don't know enough about it I don't know enough about it I like young bull man I like young bull I hope things work out for him over there man you got to get it together man

57:56Shannon Sharpe:You got to have the coaches to trust you. You got to have the player, your team, if you respect you. Yeah, bring daddy the phone. Hurry. So. Yeah, bring it. Pick it up. Bring it here.

58:14Hello. Hello. Yes. Yes.

58:20Shannon Sharpe:Yes, please. Giants rookie first-round draft pick Jackson Dart threw two preseason games. Game one against the Bills, 12 of 19, 154, one touchdown. Today against the Jets, 14 of 16, 137, one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdown, zero interceptions. Head coach Brian Dayball asked if Jackson Dart could take starting job for Russell Wilson. Russell Russ is our starting quarterback. we're going to keep developing Jackson I do see a scenario Jackson Dart starts the season as the number two quarterback absolutely and Jameis the number three because I don't think there is a number four the fact that they're keeping all three of them is a really good thing because Jackson Dart has you think they keep all four you think they keep all three of them absolutely you think the Giants letting Jameis go absolutely not Jameis is a good veteran even if he's not on the field, good locker room presence.

59:21A good locker room presence. Don't fall.

59:26Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, great locker room presence. How much money does Jameis have guaranteed? Wait, get her iPad. And her shoes. Get your shoes. That's my charger, Papa. That's my charger. Okay, I got her charger. come on you don't need to put them on two year nine million right two million give me that a kiss come here give me that a kiss give me a kiss while we're finished you keep interrupting give me a kiss say bye bye love you love you too

1:00:13papa's a little girl All right. Okay. Now we can talk. We can talk. We can go. No more interruptions. Ocho, damn.

1:00:28What?

1:00:29Shannon Sharpe:What? What happened? I'm trying to like

1:00:37I'll be

1:00:40Shannon Sharpe:looking at it. Russ is the starter. You're developing Jackson Dart. Last week he started number three. This week he starts number two. I wouldn't look into that. You're looking too much into it. You're looking too much into it. I think the ball, they have their mind made up that they're going to allow him to develop and allow him to sit back. Michael Vick, when he played, he sat back. I think rookies not being thrown to the wolves, some are good at it. No, no, no. No, Russ is the starter. I believe Russ starts the season. No, no, no, no, no. I'm looking at the situation with Jameis. Oh, he's not going nowhere?

1:01:24He's not going nowhere. They're going to keep three quarterbacks. Jackson Dart will more so obviously be developing, and he would be the practice squad quarterback. I don't think they're throwing a young bull out there to the wolves like that as a rookie.

1:01:42Shannon Sharpe:no i'm not saying he's not starting russ started russ is going to be the day one starter but if russ is the day one starter and then you have a rookie as the backup do you really keep the veteran as the third guy that's what i'm that's what i'm absolutely because the third guy that you're keeping is more valuable than just being on the goddamn excuse me than just being on the field. He adds more value outside of just being on the field as a starting quarterback. You don't let a locker room presence like that go. You just don't. They do it all the time. There's only one James Winston. No. I know.

1:02:32Shannon Sharpe:And they let him go in New Orleans when he was more than that. They let him go in Cleveland when he was more than that. So it's not like it used to be Ocho because the salaries are exploding so much and you used to be able to keep a veteran guy. Because the numbers were low. The numbers were low. They were favorable. They were favorable. Yes. Yes. I got you. I got you. You're right. But it's going to be very interesting. But I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dart through the first two weeks. Justin Fields and the passing offense were out of sync today. Fields completed his first throw, then finished with five straight incompletions in two series.

1:03:13Shannon Sharpe:Fields went 0-3 when targeting wide out Garrett Wilson, his old buddy from Ohio State. The lack of a legit wide receiver number two to compliment Wilson is one of the reasons why they're not clicking. I don't know why they didn't go get another receiver, Ocho. Wait, who's the number two in New York? Alan Lazard, is he hurt? Chad who's the number two in New York

1:03:44wait matter of fact you got Reese Hall and um first name God what's Alan's first name maybe Derrick Henry

1:04:00Braylon

1:04:01Shannon Sharpe:Ray Lowe.

1:04:10Shannon Sharpe:Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard. Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds. You remember Josh Reynolds? He's played with the Rams. He was Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, I mean, I like it. But you know what, Ocho? When you that dog and they gave you 30 million, damn what's on the other side. Yeah. Go get open. They pay you$30 million.

1:04:38When you the number one, you get no excuses. No, not when they pay that kind of money. No, you're number one for a reason. You're number one because two, three, and four can't do what you can do.

1:04:50Shannon Sharpe:Right. I don't think that – I don't think – was getting open the issue? It wasn't the issue. It was just the passes might have been in. Well, I saw two routes. he ran a stop route guy was right there I think he ran another route the guy was you know that's why I don't like them damn joint practices stuff like that you done seen it all week you done seen it all week you know it's coming formation recognition knowing the count knowing where I'm lining up understanding I'm a split and you know it's coming so you're going to sit there and cheat I don't like that I don't like that because Garrett Wilson is a route runner I don't know if he paid attention attention to him.

1:05:30He's a route runner. So, I mean, I think they're going to be all right. It's a little too soon. The panic, you know, whatever. Justin Fields is finally getting his turn. He doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team. This is your team. You have a head coach that's going to do right by you.

1:05:56You got to make the most of this opportunity. I mean, it's preseason. You want to get all your mistakes out right now. So the game you have today? Yes. You know what? You can't repeat these. You can't. You got to fix it now because he's in year what? This is year four. Just the fields?

1:06:15Shannon Sharpe:Two years, three years. Yeah, year four. Yeah. This is your make it or break it year two? Mm-hmm. Zach Wilson put together a solid start in Dolphins' second preseason game. He completed 15 of 23 passes, 151 yards, and a touchdown. He missed a couple of would-be touchdowns, deep throw, a pass to Eskridge that was underthrown. Rookie Quinn Ewers improved on his debut, completing 11 of 16 with a pair of touchdowns to fellow rookie Theo Weiss Jr. Hey, wait, who did you say had a great debut? What's the name again? The first name you said? Oh, Zach Wilson completed 15-23, 151. Zach Wilson, that's my dog.

1:07:04That's my dog, okay?

1:07:07Shannon Sharpe:You do realize if he plays for the Dolphins, y 'all probably, y 'all are not going to the playoffs, right? We'll be there. Okay. We'll be there. But again, Zach Wilson looked good today. He did. Quinn errors, based on how he looked last week. Ewers. Ewers. He looked better this week. Yes, he did. That's what you want to see. You want to see. Yes, you want to see improvement. Exactly. So I like it. I think Dolphins, they're coming out of AFC East. What do you think about that?

1:07:42Shannon Sharpe:I think you're drinking Hunch Punch. If you think they're beating Buffalo, that's what I think about that. I think you also. Hey, your face. Boy, that was funny. that's what I think I think you oh so you're not wait a minute I don't like I don't I don't like the way you you sound whereas if you trying to say the Dolphins don't have any chance in the AFC East look you play football anything can happen you ain't gonna put no money that the Dolphins gonna be the AFC East representative gonna win that division so so you telling me you've already given Buffalo the division already and we don't know what's going to happen are you just saying that because they have Josh Allen take the team with the best quarterback okay alright I like where you're going I'm taking the team with the best quarterback I'm taking Josh Allen over every other quarterback in that division you taking Josh Allen over Drake man

1:08:53yeah Yeah. You sure? Okay. Yeah. I just want to see what you're going to say. Okay. Okay.

1:09:01Shannon Sharpe:Sure am. Okay. So when Drake May and he got damn Stefan Diggs look like Mark Dan Marino and Mark Duper and Clayton, then what you going to say?

1:09:15Shannon Sharpe:They still got to do something with Josh Allen. Okay.

1:09:22Shannon Sharpe:All right. But tell somebody. Okay. Josh Allen is him. I wish I'd tell you something different. Hold on. Are you trying to say my quarterback is not him? You trying to say two is not him? Can't stay healthy. Can't play in the cold. I don't like your attitude. I don't like your tone. That got to do with me. I don't.

1:09:50The funny thing, the fact that you have no confidence in us I mean, that would be it.

1:09:55Shannon Sharpe:I got confidence. I mean, y 'all going to play the game. But I ain't putting no money. I wouldn't put no money on y 'all to win the division. I would not. Y 'all probably got great odds, too. You wouldn't put money on the Dolphins. The Dolphins. We had. Okay. We had what? Okay. All right. Listen, I can't wait. I can't wait till football season. I can't wait till football season because we're going to have some nice little side bets. I'm going to pay this time.

1:10:31Shannon Sharpe:Just like you did last time. I'm going to make him small. I'm going to make him small. Aston Gentry had seven carries for 33 yards today, Ocho. His 13-yard run was part of an eight-play 41-yard scoring drive that ended with him piring his way into the end zone for a one-yard touchdown. Now, after the game, Genji said, I've arrived, and it's time to keep going and make plays for this team. I don't know if I've ever heard somebody say, I've arrived in the preseason, but I'm going to take his word for it. He ran with authority today. I like the run he had. Punished the defender, lowered his shoulder.

1:11:05Shannon Sharpe:I mean, he run with power. I mean, he's not an overly big guy. I mean, what's he, 5 '8", 5 '9", but he's powerfully built. You look at the way he's built from weights down, you can tell he's a power he's a power runner listen hey I saw I saw one of the clips where somebody somebody caught him I saw the one we ran dude over but on the left side yeah somebody caught him good oh yeah I don't know if that was a safety coming down here I don't know who it was but well you might want to get word to him you got to pick and choose your battles you're not going to run through you're not going to run through people like you did at Boise State.

1:11:48Shannon Sharpe:It's the preseason. He doesn't understand yet. You're going to learn real quick. What's wrong with that guy?

1:11:59Yeah. So, but I thought, you know, look,

1:12:04Shannon Sharpe:like Geno, Geno has great command of the offense. Geno is very familiar with Pete Carroll. That's a good thing. Pete went and got him. so it's going to be interesting to see how the Raiders do look. That division is good. Yeah, very good. You got Mahomes in that division. They won the division probably like, what, the last eight years? They probably won the division every year since what, 2016? Is it 2018? I thought it was. Yeah, you got to realize because they had Alex Smith, they won the division. They won the division every year. Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback, and he started in 2018.

1:12:43Shannon Sharpe:He got drafted in 17. The last time the Broncos won the division. Won the division. They won the Super Bowl. That was the last. So since then, since 2016, the Chiefs have been winning the AFC. Yeah. But you got Mahomes. You got Herbert. You got Bo Nix and Geno. Look, that might be the second best division in football as far as quarterbacks. I think the AFC North. Hello, NFC East? what are we talking about? Yeah, let's see. Hold on. Who's the NFC? Yeah. I think for me, it's clear that it's the AFC North with, you know, you got two of the top four quarterbacks in one division. Okay, Rodgers. And then, yeah.

1:13:34Shannon Sharpe:Even with Cleveland, we ain't giving Cleveland nothing with those two top four guys and Rodgers. And then, you know, okay, I can see that. I can see that. The NFC East with Russ, Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Dak, but Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Bo Nix, there ain't no slouch. I like Bo too, man. I really, really like Bo. I like Bo a lot. If somebody said I would take the AFC West quarterbacks, I wouldn't fight them. Because you got Mahomes. Mahomes has been to five Super Bowls. You got Justin Herbert. You got a Bo Nix who's up and coming. Now, Hurts has won the Super Bowl. He's been to two. Russ has been to two, 1-1.

1:14:33Shannon Sharpe:But Dak, where are we putting Dak? You take Dak or you take Justin Herbert? Ooh, that's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. Chad who y 'all like you take Dak or you take Justin Herbert

1:14:50Hey, I mean half the check gonna say they gonna say Justin hurt because they just don't like the damn Cowboys

1:14:57Shannon Sharpe:No, I think I

1:15:04Shannon Sharpe:Both of them there ain't nothing that kid can't do that kid got an arm. He is a miss Lee arm talented. Yeah he's more athletic than you think and he can flat out throw it

1:15:23I told you I'm looking at the chat

1:15:26Shannon Sharpe:what is it a whole bunch of herbers going back and forth and I see a Dak every so often

1:15:36I knew they were going to do that

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Jets vs Giants preseason matchup, reacts to Dillon Gabriel’s surprising comments that appear to take a shot at Shedeur Sanders, and debate what it means for the NFL rookie QB battle and much more!

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