Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Josh Allen's Bills BEAT Lamar's Ravens, Rodgers 4 TDs, Packers-Lions

23:13Shannon Sharpe:But I think, look, this was a very good, this was the best game of the day thus far. We'll see what Minnesota and Chicago do last night. It's going to have to be hard pressed to top this one. Because you got 41, you got 41-40. And you got two quarterbacks playing at their absolute best. that Lamar Jackson was sensational. Josh Allen just so happens to had the ball had the ball last. Yes. Yeah. And that's what you want to do. You want to say, give me the ball. All I want is the ball in my quarterback's hands with a chance to win the game. Yeah, that's all I can ask for. It doesn't matter if it's Lamar Jackson, if it's Joe Burrow, if it's a Patrick Holmes, if it's Josh Josh Allen, all you want is that opportunity.

24:00Shannon Sharpe:I want my quarterback to have the ball with a chance to win the game. We need a touchdown. We need a field goal. I have the utmost confidence. Josh Allen has a ton of confidence. He always has. But now he knows he's an elite company. He has an MVP. He has an MVP. But he knows in order to get to that tier, take that next step, Ocho. Yeah. Can you imagine? Super Bowl winning, Super Bowl MVP. Regular season MVP. Yeah. That's when Brady started separating himself. Now, all of a sudden, he got Super Bowl and he got regular season. Mahomes, Super Bowl and regular season. Rodgers, that's what the greats do.

24:43Shannon Sharpe:Josh Allen was sensational tonight. He was. He was absolutely phenomenal. With a little help. With a little help from the Ravens. He was. Sometimes, I got to have that, Ocho. I need that. But here's the thing. He got the help. How many times have you helped somebody, but they didn't help themselves? How many times did we come on here, Ocho? The game was for the taking. Yeah. And the team didn't take it. Right. If you open the door, remember the movie Sinners? Yeah. In order for the vampires to come in, what you have to do? You had to offer, you had to ask them to come in. You had to let them in.

25:17Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. How many times have the door been open and the opportunity for you to come in and everybody just stood there? So the Ravens opened the door and they invited them in and Buffalo says, okay. Yeah, we'll take it. We coming on in your house. Any other team? I'm trying to think. Any other team? If you take the bills out and the Ravens put up 40 points, there may be one or two teams that I can think of that have the quarterback or have the personnel to actually come back in a game like that. You're absolutely right. Maybe two other teams. That's about it. other than that ain't nobody nobody else coming coming back and and and doing i have a question i got a question for you i know the magnitude and the importance of the game is not as significant as this one was but does this compare in any way to that 28-3 comeback in that super bowl i'm not comparing that i mean i know it's you know it's week one i'm not comparing week one in the super i mean just back it's just as big or no this is oh that's i mean i mean 28-3 yeah i mean the biggest At that point in time, the biggest lead it had ever been was like a 10-0 with the comeback from 10-0.

26:24Shannon Sharpe:Right. Or the Patriots came back from 10 down in the fourth quarter. They came back from 25. Well, hey, hold on. Now they scored 16 points in four minutes. This ain't mad. It's real life. The Bills, the night. Yes. Yes. 16 points in four minutes? That's not even – that's video game stuff. So many things have to go right for you to score 16 points in four minutes. what went right is that after the own first down Derrick Henry fumbled the ball that little time so you didn't get the full allotment of time they didn't make they didn't make Buffalo burn any of their timeouts on that possession so now once you get the ball back now they don't have any timeouts and you can let time run off the clock on your next possession right um but no Josh Josh was sensational.

27:13Shannon Sharpe:Give Buffalo credit. Give him credit where it's due. They earned this one. Buffalo, I mean, excuse me, the Ravens, you're kicking yourself. I know you're kicking yourself. But I mean,

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27:31Shannon Sharpe:Ravens, I mean, nine minutes more time of possession, Ocho, for the Buffalo, they had 10 more first downs. Third down efficiently, Buffalo was 7 of 15. Baltimore was 7 of 11. But defensively is where the Ravens are going to have to get better. They gave up 500 yards of offense. They gave up 500 yards of offense. Just because Derrick Henry fumbled, that doesn't mean you have to let them score. I'm just throwing that at that's food for thought. Just because somebody fumbled, you can say, you know what, y 'all get the field goal. You ain't get no touchdown. Or you get nothing. Or you can take the ball away.

28:09Shannon Sharpe:You can take it back away. So this notion that, oh, you know, Derek Henry fumbled. He'll do a better job. He'll have better ball security next time. And in that situation, sometimes it's just better to go ahead and drop. Live to see another day. I had a coach who used to tell me all the time, Les Ducker, my position coach, in the mid-90s, 93 and 94. He used to call me Sweetheart. He said, Sweetheart, you got to know when the journey's over. Sometimes, D. Henry, I understand. You got to know when the journey's over. it's okay to sometime to get out of bounds it's okay Ocho to say you know what hey drop to the ground man come on nah nah in that situation the only only bad can come out of that nothing good could come out of that that's why you say well he shouldn't stiff up that's what he I mean how many times have we seen him use that stiff arm just in this game right remember on that long, that first long touchdown run, what did he do?

29:08Shannon Sharpe:Get off me. Shubbed he got to the ground. So in that situation, man, but this was a barn burner. This was a great game. Congratulations, Buffalo Bills. Hard-fought victory scored 22 points in the fourth quarter. Outscored Baltimore 22-6 in the fourth. And they win the ball game 41-40. Missed PAT also. Remember Baltimore missed the PAT. Hit the upright. Right, bounced away. Now, a field goal only ties you. Yeah. You go into overtime. Mm-hmm. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice.

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33:02Shannon Sharpe:And he also had 14 carries for 30 yards, two more scores. Right now, yeah, he's the early, you know, he showed why he won the award. He's going to be AFC Offensive Player of the Week. Right. And he's, you know, I think like a lot of sites had Lamar as the favorite. But Josh Allen ain't going nowhere. No. Listen, it's all going to come down to all the way towards the end because they're going to be making these kind of plays all season long regardless of who they're playing. And I think the funny thing about it, when I think about the Ravens and we talk about their defense most of the time, the defense is always ahead of the offense, huh?

33:38Because all the defense have to do, they have to read and react. I think the Ravens might be one of the few teams with the offense and the Bills as well. The offense is ahead of the defense because of the people they have at the quarterback position. Yeah, but... Because of the people they have in the quarterback position. But if you look at it, this is an offensive team.

33:57Shannon Sharpe:Your best players, your best player, Lamar Jackson, he's on offense. Your second best player, Derrick Henry, he's on offense. Probably your fourth or fifth best player, if he's not third, Zay Flowers, he's on offense. So naturally, so of your top 10 players, probably three of the top five are on the offensive side of the football. with that being said, this is not good enough Ravens defensively. I know it's one game. I know it's one game, but a lot of these quarterbacks, you got Joe Burrow. He can throw the ball. He struggled today. No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But the Ravens don't have a Miles Garrett.

34:46Shannon Sharpe:The Steelers, that quarterback, I don't know if y 'all saw him today, what he did in the Meadowlands. He can throw the ball. Patrick Mahomes can throw the ball. Justin Herbert can throw the ball. If you do not pressure these quarterbacks, they will light you up. And look at the receivers that Burrow has. Look at the receivers that Justin Herbert is going to be playing with. You saw what Aaron Rodgers. So, hey, I'm just saying, they're going to have to go back to the drawing board. Lamar got it to it. that somebody threw a drink on Derrick Henry and then you saw Lamar get into it. The fans shoved him and Lamar shoved him back.

35:26Shannon Sharpe:Just be careful, Lamar. The fan got to be careful. You can't reach out to Sanders, that's the players. You can't do that. But it ain't worth just getting a lawsuit. It ain't worth it, don't you? Because even if they throw it out, guess what you got to do? You got to have an attorney to defend it. Take it from somebody to know. So just, just, just Lamar, I'm just saying, I understand. Look, fans, keep your hands, keep your hands inside the wall. Unless that's your player. Hey, Lamar, just, just be careful. That's all I'm going to say. Just be careful. Oh, Joe, the Steelers went on the road, beat the Jets 34-32.

36:05Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdown passes. If I'm not mistaken, it's his first game with four touchdown passes and no interceptions since 2021. Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdown passes in his Steelers debut. Rodgers, after the game, they were probably people in the organization that didn't think I could play anymore. So it was nice to remind those people that I still can. I'm just happy to be everybody associated with the Jets. Yeah. Were you surprised how well Aaron Rodgers looked today? Well, I wasn't surprised, obviously, based on the team he's at, where he is, what he has to work with offensively.

36:40The Steelers, obviously their identity is their defense, even though they looked okay because the goddamn Jets and Justin Fields, they were playing some ball today, boy. Yes. Justin Fields and them boys were playing some ball today, but I'm happy for Aaron. DK Metcalf, they had very, very, very good chemistry. Very good chemistry. He's caught some good balls. And outside of that, I mean, they look really good. And this is what I really expected. For the Steelers to have a quarterback that is four-time MVP, Super Bowl-winning quarterback, and putting the right pieces around him and all he has to do is do his ass of him and don't turn the ball over.

37:20Just don't turn the ball over and you will always have a chance. And that's exactly what they had to take. That's exactly what they had to take. Let defense take everything. And again, what happened?

37:30Shannon Sharpe:It was a turnover. Remember the fumble? Hey. Look, we know Aaron Rodgers can have games like this. He looked like the old Aaron Rodgers. Not an old Aaron Rodgers. The old Aaron Rodgers. 22 of 30, 244, four touchdowns. Just got after him a little bit, got him sacked him four times. Did a great job of neutralizing the run, only 50 yards on 20 carries. Then you go to the other side, Justin Fields, played really well today, 16 of 22, 218, one touchdown. They had 182 rushing. But when you get a situation like that, you got to kill a net with a sledgehammer. Yes. you can't leave a team with these type quarterbacks you can't let them hang around they'll find a way to beat you every time you can't when you get a team down and they got a great quarterback on that side of the football Rodgers can still beat you Josh Allen can beat you on the home these guys they can beat you you better put them away when you get a chance but the funny thing if you leave them hanging around okay but the funny thing about it when teams get in a situation where you can kill an ant with a sledgehammer, everything gets conservative.

38:44The play calling gets conservative because now I don't want to be responsible for the loss as opposed to let's keep our foot in a pedal and just kill him right away. But no, every time, every single time, which is why I tweeted what I tweeted tonight, why the Ravens and Bills are playing. Every time, listen, it looks like a blowout, but for some reason, in every football game, the play calling, mistakes, they get conservative, things happen, fumbles, interception, and for some reason the game always ends closer than what it should be.

39:19Shannon Sharpe:You know, you turn the ball over, you give the Packers a short field, and the next thing you know the game is boom, boom, boom.

39:33Shannon Sharpe:Give Jalen Ramsey credit. You can't go low to Jalen now. You can't take out the lead blocker by taking out his knees. They won't allow you to do that on the defensive side of football. You used to could, but you can't do that anymore. But he says, okay, don't worry about it. I'll make up for it. He did. I'll make up for it. He dropped a hammer on Garrett Wilson. I think the thing is, you got to know that guy's over there, Ocho. Yeah. Because what are they trying not to do, Ocho? Let you out of bounds. So if they're not going to let you out of bounds, what does that mean? somebody close to the sidelines and keeping everything inside and so now Ram see him

40:19Shannon Sharpe:let me get some barbecue sauce because I'm going to put some sauce on the ribs that was it that's what happened that was a textbook tackle too that was teach tape teaching tape on how to tackle and not get no flag. That was nice. That was. That was an unbelievable play by an unbelievable player. But I thought Justin Fields showed great poise. Did a great job. He's only sacked once. The tackle got beat really bad. He got beat really, really quick. And I think because I thought they had something on that play. Looking at it, they had something. If the tackle doesn't get beat so quick, Highsmith beats him clean.

41:03Shannon Sharpe:and Fields really doesn't even get a chance, really gets a chance to do much of anything. But I was impressed with Rodgers. Now, I'm not finna sit here and tell you I saw four touchdowns and no turnovers, 22 or 30. No, I knew they were going to try to establish the run. Right. But that's why you got a guy like Rodgers, because if we can't run it, we feel comfortable. If we can protect him, he can make plays. He can still make plays off his back foot. He still can roll out the pocket and throw with pinpoint accuracy. He still has those capabilities. He's not as elusive as he once was. Hey, we're not the same people at 30.

41:41Shannon Sharpe:We were at 25. We're not the same people at 35. We were at 30. Rodgers is, what, 40, 41 years of age. He's definitely not the same person athletically as he was in his 30s. But his arm, his ability to change arm slots, his ability to move on the run, to throw on the run. Now, he don't have the foot speed he once did, Ojo. He's not going to really beat you like he once could with his legs, but his arm is still dangerous. Yeah. His arm is still very, very dangerous. Very, very much so. I didn't see the four touchdowns. If somebody would have told me, could I see 244? Yeah. But I don't think either team is really happy.

42:22Shannon Sharpe:One team gave up 34. The other team gave up 32. not if a if I give up 32 and I win I'm happy but there are some concerning things that I saw uh but I thought I but if I think if you're Mike Tomlin you're like okay we I think we found our quarterback and you look at the receiver you look at DK doing what he did you look at Calvin Austin the third for our move had a big play uh Skoronic uh catches he's normally a special teams maven came from I think he was at the Rams uh that's where I remember him from I I don't know if he came from there last year or a couple years ago. But I remember him at the Rams as a special team member.

42:57Shannon Sharpe:Called a touchdown, recovered a fumble. But I like what I saw from the Jets. There's some positives. Absolutely. There's some positives that you can take out of this. You're just like, man, we had it. Yeah. But you give up 17 points, just like the Ravens gave up 22 points. You gave up 17 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah. You can't. You're not going to win. You're not going to win very many games given that kind of in the fourth quarter. But the Steelers play well. Look, Steelers are 1-0 in that division. Cincinnati is 1-0. And you got Cleveland and Baltimore at the bottom of the division at both 0-1.

43:37Shannon Sharpe:It's early. One game of the season. One game does not make a season. Win, lose, or draw. But I definitely like teaching after a win than a dual loss. Yes, sir. Now, I might have your undivided attention more so after a loss than a win, but I like teaching after a win. So, Steelers, what you thinking? How many wins? 10? 11? Steelers? 12? Yeah. That's a good one. Off the quarterback alone, if he can be consistent and not turn the ball over and show his vintage signs of old Aaron Rodgers, old Green Bay Packers Aaron Rodgers, they could win more than that, especially if the defense carries him because the defense is their identity now.

44:27The defense is their identity. I got them winning more than 10, more than 10 easily. No, I'm saying if it all comes down on your quarterback, if you look at the league, you look at the landscape of the league or the team that are always successful year in and year out, what's the common denominator on what each one of those teams have. They have a competent quarterback that puts them in the best situations to win week in and week out. And that's something that the Steelers have now, which is why Tomlin had no problem going to get Aaron Rodgers. We don't need you to be Aaron Rodgers down there in goddamn Green Bay.

45:04We don't need that. If we can get flashes of brilliance every so often, and you do what we ask of you, and don't turn the ball over, So we can hand it off from time to time to take some of the pressure off of you. DK, make the plays. Calvin Austin III, you make your plays. Friermuth, how you say his last name? Friermuth. Yeah, Friermuth, make your plays. We're going to be fine. Let the defense do all the heavy lifting.

45:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I mean, I like what I saw with DK. Did a great job of getting the ball in his hands. He dropped one early, and then he came back and made two spectacular plays. Turned on the afterburners like they got out down the sideline. I saw Calvin Austin catch a touchdown. He played well today. Fryer Mooth, when given the opportunity, he did what he does. Skoronic, they slept on him, did the run the over route. You know, Rodgers likes to throw the ball outside the pocket. They don't have a problem putting him on the move. He does a great job because if you roll him to the left, he can open his hips up and still get the completion.

46:02Shannon Sharpe:A lot of the right-handed quarterbacks or left-handed quarterbacks that have to roll right or right-handed quarterbacks that got to roll left, it's an awful lot to throw on the move because you got to open your hips up, especially if it's not like a comeback where the guy, you know, you roll in that way and you just throw it. But sometimes you got to open your hips. And I think Rodgers does that as good as anybody that's ever, ever played the game. I like what I saw from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

46:29Shannon Sharpe:I like what I saw from the Steelers. I like Justin Fields. I like what I saw today. I can, if I'm AG, I'm going to say, son, hey, I know you're disappointed that we didn't win, but there's no question in my mind you showed a lot of improvement you showed a lot of growth today we can win a lot would you play it like you played today son we can win a lot of football games absolutely with a lot of football games um so Steelers go to 1-0 Jets fall to 0-1 34-32 you know Rodgers had something to prove you know hey hey you you didn't want me you didn't think I can play. Say, I want to beat everybody that's associated.

47:08Shannon Sharpe:You know, he gave it a little bit. He's like, hey, y 'all got something for me walking off the field today? I think he's walking next to Cam Haywood. He's like, y 'all got something for me? Y 'all look, y 'all, y 'all, y 'all, y 'all.

47:21So, but like I said, I think the Jets, that division, it's Buffalo. Yeah.

47:27Shannon Sharpe:It's Buffalo. Miami looked horrible on both sides of the ball, Ocho. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Ocho, they look horrible. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. No, they did that. I didn't do nothing. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice. Like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver and everything came together fast. Once it was locked in, I had to be ready to go. That's where Amazon Prime can make a difference. When something comes together quickly, you can get what you need like grooming essentials, neck pillows, eye masks, even snacks for the flights.

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50:45Shannon Sharpe:After getting outscored 99-40 in the first half of the NFC North games last year, the Packers got points on their opening three possessions. Ocho, you'd like the Packers to be favored in the NFC North now. Man, heck, hell yeah. Boy, you see them boys today? Boy, you see Jordan Love dealing? Mm-hmm. Golden, Hicks, Dobs. Yep. Reed. Right after tight end, yeah. Josh Jacob was trying to get loose a little bit. He wasn't able to go crazy. Defensively, the Packers look good, too. They contain Jameer Gibbs. He didn't have a huge game. They contain Montgomery. They didn't have a huge game. but I see a team, especially from an offensive standpoint, like the Detroit Lions, they're going to be all right.

51:29They're going to be all right. But what I'm seeing from the Packers this early in the season is phenomenal. Jordan Love was wheeling and dealing all game long. All game long.

51:43Shannon Sharpe:They didn't have a ton of plays. No. I mean, they had, I mean, 45 actual plays, so they might have had 50 total plays if you count the penalty stuff, Ocho. You look at Jordan Love with 16-22, 188 touchdowns. They only had 25 rush attempts for 78 yards. The Packers did a tremendous job getting up to Jared Goff. He's not mobile, so we know where he's going to be. Right there. He ain't going nowhere. He's going to be right there. So they didn't run the ball. Montgomery couldn't get anything going. Gibbs couldn't get anything going. you know Gibbs had 10 receptions for 31 yards a long of 7 that's not what you use you need Amon Ra you need Jamison you need J-Mo they need their J-Mo to stretch the field Amon Ra to keep the chains moving and then we'll screen past you we'll swing it to one of the backs out of the backfield Laporta they need to get more out of here but they did a green Bay was swarming today.

52:49Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. They got, they got at them today. Right. Rashawn Gary. You talk, we had him on the show. Joe. I'm having a big year where he got somebody that he's going to send the double at him. So he's going to get a lot of one-on-one. Yeah, absolutely. And everybody don't got tackles like, like Pene Sewell. And, and I think who's the other tackle over there. I forgot who's on the left side. Is it Decker?

53:14Shannon Sharpe:Start left tackle for Detroit. Is it Taylor? Is it Taylor Decker?

53:25Yeah.

53:26Shannon Sharpe:Everybody don't got tackles like that. No. And then you got those guys. You got, hey, they can bring pressure from a lot of different areas. Van Ness, Wyatt. It looked good. And you know what? You talk about all the things that we used to see in Detroit doing. the Detroit offense is so explosive because they're able to establish the run they're able to establish run but not being able to establish the run today and get those chunk plays six seven yards here having them forcing forcing Detroit to maybe have to I mean forcing the Packers and maybe have to drop the Saints down in the box yeah for a little help so it eliminates everything else you want to do on the back end because you can't get nothing going on the front end yeah you need to establish the run, Ocho, for the simple fact I don't have a mobile quarterback.

54:18Shannon Sharpe:If I don't have a mobile quarterback, so if the play break down, see, here's the thing. A lot of these quarterbacks, you need now moving forward what you're starting to see. You need guys at the quarterback position that can get off script. So if I call something, even if I don't call the perfect play, he can get me out of that play with his legs. He can get me out of there and buy me time. Because a lot of times, can a guy get off sheet? Can a guy get away from the play that you call and make something out of it? So if I just give you this ingredients, can you make something tasty with the ingredients that I gave you?

54:54Shannon Sharpe:Or can you just be like, man, I don't worry about this. I got something better. Hey, listen. That's not what Jerry Garfield is. We know who and what Jerry Garfield is. He can throw the ball, Locho. But he ain't making no plays that's off script. Yeah. I mean, listen, there are a handful of quarterbacks on where a coach can call to play and he sees something completely different and he can make something out of nothing. Yes. Call the right defense, but damn, now we stuck. Yes. I've used my legs, making something out of nothing. There are very few that can do it. True. Detroit's offense failed to score a touchdown through three quarters, which hadn't happened since 2023, week seven at Baltimore.

55:40Shannon Sharpe:And that was my concern, Ocho. Okay, you got the same guy, but they're not Ben Johnson. The guy that's calling plays now, he didn't go audition for a head coaching job. He's never been a head coach before. He's never been an offensive coordinator before. So you're asking someone, you put someone in a position, and I'm not saying that he can't be good or he won't be good in the future, but I'm saying you got to have some growing pains. I mean, I've never seen a kid be able to just all of a sudden grow from walking, I mean, go from crawling to walking without falling and busting his butt or her butt or hitting his head.

56:14Shannon Sharpe:That's just a part. That's just a part of walking. Right. So a part of calling plays when you've never done it is to go through trial and error, to go through growing pains. And they're going to have some of these in Detroit. They are. You lost both. You both your D.C. and your O.C.

56:33Shannon Sharpe:It's going to be some growing pains. Yeah, it's going to be some growing pains. and uh do do i think they'll figure it out yeah i do i think i think they'll figure it out but uh it's not going to be as smooth and as seamless as if as it has been the last couple of years that's for sure right but uh but i thought green bay defensively defensively that's what look at i i agree with you ocho they can run the football they got look they got receivers that i don't look at any of these guys like, oh man, I'm just I ain't looking at none of these guys like I look at a chase. Like I look at a Jetta. Right.

57:13Shannon Sharpe:They can hurt you. They can. And there is one. If he's all that he's been advertised to be in Matthew Golden, he's supposed to be similar to that, which is why they got him in the first round. He's a 4-2 guy. We weren't able to see that 4-2 today. He did make some plays, but I'm excited to see what they do with him going forward. Jaden Reed, nice all nice what scares you about him Ocho is that because from week to week you don't know see you set your game plan you're like okay we gotta take this guy away we gotta take Chase away we gotta take Jed away we gotta take CeeDee away there are certain guys you go into the game who you trying to take away you don't know you don't you never knew who moved to the guy week to week it varies with them week to week it varies Because there's not a whole lot of difference between Dobbs, Reed, Wicks.

58:07Shannon Sharpe:Ain't a whole lot of difference, Ocho. Right. They all about this. And then, Kristen, he's not there. He's your speed merchant. He just can't stay healthy. He's phenomenal. I like him a lot, but he just can't stay healthy. He won't be back, what, until later in the season, huh? I mean, way, way, way back. Probably. towards his skill. Mm-hmm. And, you know, normally guys that have that kind of speed, they normally have – they bound, they wound tight. So they normally have hamstring issues. Right. He's battled a lot of hamstring issues. Yes, sir. But I did like what I saw from Green Bay offensively.

58:47Shannon Sharpe:Even though they didn't have a whole lot of plays, the stats don't jump off at you. They probably had, what,

59:00Shannon Sharpe:260 yards. But you only gave up 13 points and they gave up that on a spectacular catch. The guy caught the ball one hand over outstretch. I can live with that. But Green Bay defensively, those guys were hunting today. They looked good. They were hunting today and that's what you're going to need. You know, boy, I'm already chomping at the bit. I want to see week four. wait week four Dallas Dallas and the Packers Green Bay Green Bay goes hey wait I'm telling you Dallas they playing in Dallas they playing in Dallas hey let's go to the game we can't I ain't going to the game you can go no I'm asking you let's go to the game so I mean we can live stream the whole game me and you sitting there watching the game chilling in the stands like that's that's that's you know like a live broadcast Uncle Nocho live it I ain't trying to do I ain't trying to do five hours of TV I'm telling you Unk man Ash man talk to Unk man

1:00:06Shannon Sharpe:it's I'm sure I'm sure they got some stuff drawn up for him to try to you know try to but Micah gonna be Micah gonna be coming he believes he believes there's not anybody on the defensive on the offensive line that can block him absolutely not hell there ain't nobody on any defensive line that can actually block him on any other 31 teams. So he's going to be chomping, chomping at the bit. I'm excited to see that game. But they look good today. Not just Micah, but the Packers defense. Defense in general. Quay Walker, Wyatt, Rashawn Gary, all those guys looked extremely well. They were getting after him.

1:00:46Shannon Sharpe:And it's easy to get, look, when you become one-dimensional, that's why everybody wants to try to establish some resemblance of a run game. Once you become one-dimensional and those guys are like, okay, we're going to play the run on the way to the quarterback? It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It is an absolute wrap. And Green Bay looked good today. Jordan Love looked good today, 16-22, 188, two touchdowns. Look, Jerry Goff had 39 attempts. He had 225 yards. If you take the sack yards out, he had 200 yards passing on 39 pass attempts. He completed 31 passes. so that tells me there are a lot of checkdowns, don't you?

1:01:25Well.

1:01:26Shannon Sharpe:You got 39 pass attempts, and you ain't got more than 250 yards. You got 225 yards, so that means, hey, that tells me you short fishing. You ain't got nothing deep. All you're doing is, hey, you're throwing a little cane pole out there. Yep. He had to get the ball out early. Yeah. Ball had to come out early. Went through progression. Okay, boom, that's covered. Boom, that's covered. That boom, that's covered. I got to get it down. Yep. And, well, the Packers knew that. Once the Packers got them down, Ocho, and you can't run the ball, so they know you got to throw. And they know, we know the ball got to come out quick.

1:02:02Shannon Sharpe:So, hey, those guys did a great job today. What, Packers got four sacks, countless pressures. Van Ness had a sack. Rashawn Gary had a sack and a half. Van Ness had.5. Wyatt had a sack. And Micah had a sack. Yeah. yeah so they you know they they'll go and and work it work him in like we don't want to we don't want to stress him too much the back know the back and so we'll put more on his plate he only uh he played 29 snaps 29 of the wow he played uh 29 of the 52 53 total snaps excuse me kind of counted snaps um have a pretty good day yeah add some pressures have a sack He had some good battles with Panay Sewell, too.

1:02:54Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. He's going to have that. Bengals beat the Browns 17-16. The Browns outgained the Bengals 327 to 141 and had the ball for nearly 36 minutes, but it wasn't enough. And this is why you need to find your quarterback. I don't know why y 'all fooling with Joe Flacco. Y 'all know Joe Flacco's not taking y 'all anywhere. He's not your quarterback of your future. If I'm going to lose, I'm going to lose trying to find out who my quarterback is. That's just me. I don't care. I don't care if it's Gabriel. I don't care if it's your dude. I don't care who it is. I just know Joe Flacco ain't your quarterback.

1:03:28Shannon Sharpe:It don't matter who was at the quarterback. It could have been Patrick Mahomes. It could have been Lamar Jackson. You missed the field goal and you missed the PAT. So don't say that. Let me finish. Let me cook. Let me cook. The Bengals won today. The Bengals won today 17-16. The football gods were on our side. That's what happened today. That's what happened today. Every time the Bengals play the Cleveland Browns, the games are always like this. It's sloppy. A lot of people look at the stat line. Oh, my God. Chase, he didn't have that many catches. Look how many yards he had. They look at Tee Higgins.

1:04:01He didn't have many catches. Look how many yards he had. Anytime you play the Brown defense, I've said this countless times on ICAP, and people laugh at me. Oh, the Browns suck. The Browns have a very, very, very good defense. They match up very well. With the Bengals' offense, their front forward, Myles Garrett, is very good. What do they do to throw off the timing? You can't go quick game because all they're going to do is have Greg Newsom up in press, have Denzel Ward up in press, and there's no quick game. Because now, boom, you drop back to throw the ball, Myles Garrett is on Joe Burrow's ass.

1:04:38Shannon Sharpe:And I told you you're going to have two sacks, too. Yeah, listen, you try to run quick game, you can't run quick game because them two fools on the outside are really good at playing bump and run. It's throwing off the timing of the offense. Yep. Which is why the game looked the way it did today, and it's always like that when you play a divisional opponent that knows your tendencies, they're familiar with your offense, they're familiar with your players. It is what it is. It's always a tough game any time you play them. Hell, it's been damn near 20-some years since I played, and our games were just like this against the Browns.

1:05:20Shannon Sharpe:It's Joe Flacco, 31 of 45, 290, a touchdown, two picks. Yeah, we had some drops. I'm talking about we. I'm sorry. I don't play for the Browns. Two picks. My receivers, my receivers in general. My receivers had some drops. We got to fix those things. We got to. My receivers, regardless of what team he played for, we got to help our quarterback out. We got to help our quarterback out. that's it that's it yeah uh but Cleveland you know and see these are the type of games Ocho that gives you confidence these are the kind of games you got to win yeah you can't lose a game like this you miss a PAT you miss a field a field goal I mean this is what's frustrating because if I'm on that team I know Joe Flacco's not taking us anywhere I know that everybody knows that he wasn't that bad today you know he was too i'm a bengal fan he wasn't he wasn't that bad he had two picks um the picks were catches were catchable balls that popped up in the air how about this here the big the bengals had 159 yards no let me take that back let me take that back let me take that back let me take that back let me take that back it might be less than that no no no this is the nfl game joe burrow who led the league in passing yards and touchdowns last year they had 141 total yards.

1:06:45Yeah. Yes.

1:06:48Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Do we understand who they were playing? I get it. I understand it. How many times do you think of the NFL team, you'll win a game and you have 141 total yards? How many games? So what are we going to do starting this week? Wait, hold, hold, hold. Wait, wait, wait. Every week, are the Cincinnati Bengals playing that Brown defense? Absolutely not. Because next week when we play and Chase go for 200 and goddamn Tegan go for 150, then what? It's based on the personnel you have. That's why the game looked the way it did today. We're going to chart how many games a team win when they have 141 a few yards.

1:07:22Shannon Sharpe:It don't matter what somebody else does. We're going to talk about the team, the 141. Not if it's Chase, if it's just the Bengals. I'm talking about every team. How many teams will win a game when they have 141 yards of offense? Not many. Not many. That's my point. Not many. That's all I'm saying. Listen, you played in tough divisions, especially AFC North, and you know how most of the time it's low-scoring games, it's back and forth. Whoever makes the least mistakes normally wins those games. Normally. Cincinnati scored. I mean, if Cleveland said, you know what, Cincinnati only will score three points in the second half.

1:07:58Shannon Sharpe:Right. Oh, we take that? We have the ball 11 more minutes. We're 9 of 16 on third down. We're 2 of 3 on fourth down. We have 22 more plays. We double them up on yardage. We average 4.6 yards per play. They average 2.9. Unc, you understand too. Unc, you've been in the AFC. You know how it is. I know how it is. You know how it is. Especially, listen, Ravens, Ravens, Steelers, Browns, Bengals. When they play, we know each other extremely well. It's like being married and as a husband, you start a sentence and your wife can finish it off. Yes. They play each other. They know exactly what's coming.

1:08:48It's nip and tuck. Whoever makes the least amount of mistakes in those games normally wins it. Sometimes it's low scoring. Sometimes you get games that's high scoring. sometime very rare but listen we pulled this one off today and all i can say is we want to know at the top of the division in the air and listen the afc north it runs through cincinnati

1:09:14Shannon Sharpe:man baltimore baltimore gonna drop 1700 points on y 'all who baltimore well you talk about you talk about the wire the movie the movie the movie the ravens the movie was filmed in baltimore The movie The Wives was filmed in Baltimore. All I know was 0-1. The Ravens are 0-1. They won't be 0-1 against Cincinnati. You want to bet something? Nope, I don't. That's anybody else in the chat. If you want to bet Baltimore versus the Ravens. He ain't going to pay. I'm going to pay. I'm going to pay. As long as I owe them, they'll never be broke.

1:09:57but I was I'm not surprised yeah how well the big uh uh the the uh the Browns defense because I told you Miles Garrett's gonna be disruptive they got no answer for it nobody got no answer you got to

1:10:11Shannon Sharpe:answer for it yeah I mean hey Joe Burrow probably say he read he read he read a exit stunt yeah it came up the middle of Joe. Joseph. I know damn well and somebody turned. Of all the people y 'all could let run scot-free and hit me in my mouth, y 'all didn't let this dude do that. Mm-hmm. And he gave it. The funny thing about it, Miles gave everybody problems, huh? Yeah. Everybody problems. He played three technique. He could scoot over to the five very, very so often. Very, very often. He'd even go to the nine. Wait, I got that backwards. The other way. Flip it. Flip it. Flip it. Always at the nine.

1:10:54I'm talking about wide nine too, huh? I'm talking about wide.

1:10:59Shannon Sharpe:He's looking at his line and being like, which one of y 'all let that motherfucker hit me?

1:11:06Hold on. Hey, did you see the play he did on Orlando Brown? Yes. So wide and did like a Euro step. Did a Euro step over and over just to get around and that's where he came up. I'm like, what the hell is he doing?

1:11:19Shannon Sharpe:he got he got a man that big shouldn't be that athletic no i mean he can bend the edge that that first step is everything for a a defensive end or edge rusher yeah he can hey he can generate speed to power because hey he getting wide and he knows you got to kick to him and he knows when you got kick when you got a kick you ain't drop no anchor yeah so he just bull hey he just yeah Come here, Joe. But look, last year, the Bengals would have found a way to lose this game. Yeah. This year, they found a way to win the game. Cleveland, like, hey, we wish – hey, keep plugging away. Keep plugging away.

1:12:03Shannon Sharpe:Cleveland, y 'all got to find a quarterback. Yeah. I'm going to say this before we go on to the next game. Okay. Cleveland Browns are very good. I continue to say it over and over every time we're on the show. before the season started, their defense is really good. I had a conversation with Zach Taylor. I went to the walkthrough Thursday, and I'm like, hey, Zach, I understand we're playing the Browns. Can we do this off it? Yeah, I mean, we just chit talk, just chit chat. How come you can't do this, you know, offensively to go play the Browns so we can score a lot of points? First thing he says, there are very few teams that are built and have the personnel that can play with any high-power offense, and the Browns are probably the best at it.

1:12:50Their front four, their back end is extremely, extremely good. They line those dudes up. I mean, we don't watch all 22, but if you watch the all 22, man-to-man safety right there in the middle of the field, we playing ball like the old school Raiders.

1:13:08Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They got some good defensive players. They do. Really good. They're about at number 95. Yeah, 95-0, and they got them Denzel Ward. Man, Jesus Christ. Them boys good. The Commanders beat the Giants 21-6. New York offense did not look competitive with Russell running it. I was checking back and forth in this game. It seemed like every time I turned in, he was putting the ball. Russ was pressured on 16 of his 45 dropbacks, 35%, and handled that pressure quite poorly. He was 2 of 12, 26 yards, sacked twice when pressured. New York managed his 231 yards of total offense, Average 3.2 yards per rush.

1:13:46Shannon Sharpe:Stumbled twice into the red zone. When asked if he would consider starting Jackson Dart, excuse me, Dart, next week, Dayball said, we're going to get home and look at our game. When asked if Wilson would start against the Cowboys, Dayball was equally noncommittal. We're talking about after every game. I've got confidence, Russ, we'll go back, evaluate the tape. This game isn't on Russell Wilson. It's not a Russell Wilson. Let's make that clear. I have confidence in Russ. We have to do a better job all the way around. Now, it was reported that, like I said, maybe I didn't stay long enough to see Dart get any snaps.

1:14:28Shannon Sharpe:Did he get any snaps in this game? Ocho, did you watch? I was stunk. I had all the games on at one time at the sportsbook, so I'm not sure at what point where Jackson Dart might have come in. When I was watching, I was watching Russell Wilson. most of the time he was running. No, he didn't come in. Okay, okay. There were reports that he was supposed to have a package. They would have a package or two for Jackson Dart. But Russell Wilson was 17 to 37, 168, sacked twice, under 26 quarterback rating. They had, what, 74 rush yards on 23 rushing teams. Go ahead, Ocho. I will say that got them defensive line, but they had Russ running for his life.

1:15:09Every time he got back to even throw a ball, The passing lanes was gone because everybody in his face. Everybody was in his face most of the time, most of the game. Every time I looked up, I look at the TV to the left. I'm like, well, God damn. Russ, every time I look up, you're getting hit. You're getting sacked. You're running for your life. There's certain things you can't put on the quarterback regardless of who you put in there. Jackson Dart had to deal with that. But what I saw today, man, I don't think anything would have been any different because he would have been running for his life.

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