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21:46Shannon Sharpe:That's a good name. They're all named after cast members of American Pie. Yeah. Oh, gotcha. I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobieski. I don't think she was in American Pie, but I still like that. Haven't looked it up. Haven't looked it up. She was prominent around the same time. Then Mary Steenburgen. Why are you guys talking to me like, why are you talking so down to me that you think I don't understand your little play game? I just really am trying to set you up for success here. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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23:22you had that experience you've been to hbcu i've always wanted my dream was to go to florida a &m that was my dream i never i never got to relive that you know so i had the cars i was dealt i did the best i could with them but now i have the opportunity you know what i can finish off that childhood dream no matter how old i am you got to understand but going to class i think on i mean going to class actually going to school if i'm not mistaken a class ain't about an hour long

23:49Shannon Sharpe:it all depends i mean it all depends we were on the quarter system mocho so you're right we only went to a class for like 50 minutes but it was five days a week if you're on the semester system you might only have to go to class once to twice a week so it all depends and then you know you might have class you might have labs i mean it's been 30 plus years i mean i graduated in 91 so it's so long i couldn't i couldn't even tell you i just know how my attention span is is that to be able to turn you out. Look at Ash Lampin. I said, man, me and meetings don't get along. Me and meetings don't get along, man.

24:27That's the difference. The difference with me, you have to understand, Unc, I can sit there and you'd be like, man, what you doing? I can sit there and play Madden for nine hours straight in one chair and not move. Not move. I can play FIFA for eight, nine hours straight. I can stream for seven, six hours straight without moving. So imagine me going to school and being excited because it's an experience I never got to do before.

24:48Shannon Sharpe:What about the class? What about the curriculum? Are you going to be excited about every class that you take? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely, because I understand what the end goal is. In order to get to the end goal, I got to put the work in. I got to put the work in. They ain't finna just hand me no damn diploma. I'm trying to walk across the stage throwing them fangs. What you talking about? Yeah, that's the best part about it, to walk across the stage and have your family scream your name and everything like that. My family? Boy, y 'all, it's my family. My mama gone, my grandma gone. Oh, but I'm saying you got Chauncey, you got the kids.

25:20I mean, the kids going to be there. Yeah. Okay, listen, going to be the nightcap family. It's going to be you and Ash and George and everybody else. Okay, okay.

25:30Shannon Sharpe:All my kids, you know. Let me know how many of you graduate class. I'm going to come when they get to Johnson so I can be a little late. Hey, listen, I'm going to come. You know how they do the new graduation? I'm coming out. In the damn middle. ABC. Hey, what? Shoot. Man, my daughter's done graduated, man. My daughter done graduated from Prairie View A &M, man. Yeah. And I ain't graduated yet. How they done beat me? My oldest daughter graduated. My son done graduated from Arizona State. I'm the one with no diploma. My kid's doing better than me. Yeah. But that's what you want. You want your kids to do better than you.

26:03Shannon Sharpe:That's the whole purpose of why you did what you did. So they wouldn't have to go through. So they wouldn't have the struggle. Now, look, I didn't want to absolve all my kids from struggle because sometimes people are like, no, no, no, no. You want your kids to struggle somewhat because you want them to understand life is not a bed of roses. So you want some struggle, but you don't want them to have to go through what you went through when basically your entire life was a struggle. But some struggle for a kid builds bell calluses and help them or navigate this thing called life because at some point in time, there will be a struggle.

26:46Shannon Sharpe:There will be some hardship. There will be some adversity. And you don't want them to have such a smooth ride that they don't know how to handle or navigate that obstacle or that roadblock that's been placed in front of them. But yeah, you want your kids. You did what you had to do to make sure you put your kids in a better situation than what you came up in. There's a funny thing about it. And one thing I won't do up here and get up to the panel, like the reason for my kids' success and the reason they're doing so well in life at their age now, at their big age right now, is because of me. Because they'll, oh, it's not.

27:25Oh, it's not. Those I have kids from, they do a hell of a job. And they're still doing a hell of a job. That's why I can't wait. And this goes for everyone. And they'll probably see this. They're probably not reading this yet. But when I win this Powerball, right? You laugh. I'm not even playing. I'm finna win the Powerball, right? You gonna win that 1.1 billion? Yeah, yeah. I'm finna spit it in three halves. Half going to those I have kids from for a job where I'm motherfucking done. Okay. One half going to nightcap because we finna do some wild stuff. Lord have mercy.

27:58Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm not finna look. I'm good. I'm gonna let you do that. I'm gonna be on the ground filming. And the other half going to the nightcap followers. See the subscribers. us. So if we're 1.8, whatever it is, we're going to break down a huge portion of all of them for always supporting. That's how I know God going to bless me because he knows I'm going to do what I'm supposed to do with the money. I'm going to do good. Give him back. You got to give a percent to the church. We got to find some churches that's doing the right thing, that's helping people in the community. You got to tithe. Well, we're going to start with New Birth.

28:31We're going to start with New Birth. You ain't out there in New Birth.

28:35Shannon Sharpe:I grew up at New Birth. Remember I told you I grew up at New Birth? Hold on. You talking about New Birth in Lothonia? I'm talking about New Birth in Opelika. Oh, okay. Yeah, on 135th. Hey, Reverend Victor Curry. Okay. Yeah, come on now. Talk to me. I thought you were talking about New Birth in Lothonia. There's another one? Yes. Where at? In Atlanta. I think it's in Lothonia. They got a congregation. I think they got a congregation about 20 ,000. What? A what? Yeah, about 20 ,000. I think it's about that big. A church? Anybody who go to New Birth in this chat? Hold on. A church with 20 ,000 people?

29:18Oh, yeah.

29:19Shannon Sharpe:That's like a college stadium. I mean, a small college stadium. I think Pastor Jamal Bryant is the pastor now. Oh, okay. I know who that is. He took over Bishop Eddie Long, who passed away. I think he had cancer some years ago. I think Jamal Bryant is the head pastor. Now, if I'm not mistaken, I think, Chad, don't quote me, but I think he is the pastor at New Birth. Hey, a 20 ,000 congregate? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you call him? Creflo Dollar. I think he's a first Christian something. Joel Osteen. I mean, yeah, they got a lot of these. I mean, they have two services, Ocho. Yeah, they call mega churches.

30:02Shannon Sharpe:Joel Osteen in Atlanta, too? In Houston. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But these mega churches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the churches that you and I grew up that we were hoping to have 100 people in there or something like that. You know what I'm saying? Right. Right. And, you know, Fourth Sunday or past the anniversary, church anniversary or something like that. You might get an overflow crowd. But yeah, man, these churches now, Ocho, they, you know, look, you know, I read my Bible. I read these literatures. I get these little pamphlets. Man, I just don't believe in the prosperity aspect of it. I don't.

30:37Shannon Sharpe:I don't believe in church members suffering while the pastor is living great. I don't believe in that prosperity. I don't. I understand you tithe. You give what you can. But when you start telling me I must do this, just count me out. I'm just going to go in. I do what I might not necessarily tie to the church every month but I give I do this charity that charity I make sure I do I do what I can what I feel out of goodness of my heart I just don't tell people about it because I don't think that's something you should advertise but but I'm proud of you I hope you do go back in the life church in Oklahoma has 85 ,000 members man come on weekly attendance weekly attendance so so how many how many how many uh wait 8 500 weekly weekly attendees because some churches some churches you have two church two services on sunday and then you might have another service or a couple of services during the week so that's where go ahead how do you get that many people 85 000 people that's more people that the that that pay core stadium and the Bengals just fitting in the stadium.

31:51What are we talking about?

31:54Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you talk about the Bible Belt, Ocho. You know, in the South, people believe in that Bible. That's why they look down certain aspects of sexuality and things like that. They frown upon that. But, you know, look, we don't need to get into that. But, hey. Joel Osteen has 45 ,000 Joel Osteen has 45 ,000 members weekly attendees Creflo Dollar he has a big what's his church name Faith Chris Chris something

32:33Shannon Sharpe:put Creflo Dollar type that in there hey one thing about it I love the word I love you heard me 15th you heard me uh i say i love some of these some of these churches some of the things i'm hearing about them yeah huge congregations but i go i go to church for two things i go to church for two things i go to hear that word yes they got to hear the choir yeah i don't want i want that old traditional good gospel that old hey man listen what a friend we have in jesus that that old school. You hear me? Yeah. Hey, his eye is on the sparrow. I need that old school traditional gospel. Yeah. Like I'm listening to Reverend James Cleveland.

33:19Like that kind of. Yeah. The Mississippi Mass Choir.

33:22Shannon Sharpe:The mighty clouds of joy. Now we talking. Shirley Caesar. Come on now. Hey, yo, I'm going to take you back real quick. The canned spirituals. Yeah. Man, stop playing. That's the kind of gospel I'm looking for. Now, I don't know if I can find that in the kind of churches we had today. Yeah. I mean, that was, that was, all I want to do is when they sing before the prayer and after the prayer when they start singing. We had a lady that would come to our church. She wasn't a member. I'll never forget her name was Miss Margie Bird. Uh-huh. Man, that lady could sing. Yeah. Hey, Chad, if you from Glenville, Reesville or from the surrounding county, you know who Miss Margie Bird was.

34:00Shannon Sharpe:Lord, that woman had a voice. Yeah. Hey, nothing like, you see that woman walk in. Hmm. it didn't fail Miss Margie you want to do a solo Lord that woman get up there Lord hey listen I had the ooh boy you got listen Miss Margie get on that piano uh huh whoo hey I had I had the opportunity obviously growing up with with being able to see Miss Mosey Burks I don't know who you know I don't know who that is listen Mississippi Mass Choir she's led many she's led many of of you got me about to tear up. God damn it. Hold on. Let me get some tissue. Shit. Those are days, man. Look.

34:50Shannon Sharpe:Those were the days, chat. I remember those days being a little boy. My feet couldn't even touch the floor. Just sitting there and the old man prayer. They have them ribbed socks with those Stacey Adams. Shine to the gill.

35:09we miss those days i miss them hey yeah hey boy you got we could talk about them all day boy you got me tearing up boy god leave boy those days don't you know what the days hey boy i had the opportunity i'm sorry i'm sorry chat excuse me for that i had the opportunity of seeing mosey burks who led the mississippi mass choir many of times and in chat you might you might know the song. You definitely going to know this song. One of our favorites. This morning when I rose. This morning when I rose and had no doubt.

35:45Shannon Sharpe:Chat, if you don't know it. We got to find, you know what, Ocho? We got to find a gospel concert. We got to step up in there. Come on now. Come on now. I have me a couple of suits that I had made. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I ain't going to be able to use them in 2025. You know what I'm saying? But you know I got him. And so just in case, you know, they wide leg. You know what I'm saying? They wide leg, Ojo. They wide leg? Yeah. That's sharp, man. That's sharp, man. That's going to be sharp, man. Peak lapels? Yeah. Man, look here. So clean, fly light on me, I cut his throat. Yeah. Oh, man.

36:20I like it. I like it. Man, I just, matter of fact, I just, every time I talk about gospel, I hear something about gospel. We get to talk about the church.

36:29Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. You tell me anything come to dogs or animals. I get that. I get to get an emotional for no reason at all. Man, I tweeted something earlier today. I saw that goddamn Kiki Wyatt.

36:44I retweeted like I didn't tweet that much today. So if it's still on the timeline right now and she was singing and I just put the goat at the top of it and I listen to it. Man, that lady, that man, something special.

36:55Shannon Sharpe:She got a voice, huh? And she got a voice. She's so ranky. She was in that. She was playing. She was in that playing. Like, this is what I do. Let's transition back to Miami Hurricanes 2025 schedule, Ocho. They beat Notre Dame 27-24. Next week, they're at home against Bethune-Cookman. Then they're at home against South Florida. Then they're at home against Florida. Then October 4th, they're on the road against Florida State. Home against Louisville. Home against Stanford. at SMU, home against Syracuse, home against NC State, on the road against Virginia Tech, on the road against Pittsburgh. Hold on, hold on, hold on just a second.

37:40Shannon Sharpe:Something is at a neutral site. What game? FSU. FSU last, right? No, no, no, no. FSU is October 4th. Hey, they got a good chance to run the table. I don't see it either. Oh, yeah, they got a chance. You know, they got South Florida, Florida, Florida State. Most of the Florida State game ain't going to be easy now. Oh, no. Not based on what I saw yesterday, especially when that Florida State defense. Yep. They look good, boy. Oh, Joe, the number 13 South Carolina Gamecocks beat Vatek 24 to 11. The Gamecocks opened the season with a win over his coach Shane Beamer's alma mater. His dad coached there for almost 30 years.

38:26Shannon Sharpe:Frank Beamer, right? Isn't that his damn name? Right.

38:34Shannon Sharpe:Carolina looked good. Carolina looked really good. That big receiver they got, Nick, what's his name? Hold on. Man, they got a receiver, Ocho, like 6 '4", about 230. He could fly. Carolina. South Carolina. Yeah, man. man. He ran 10, 10, 100 meters, 20, 20 in the 200 meters. Yeah. Oh man. He looked good. He caught a bomb, caught a bomb. Oh, here it is right here. But I like Carolina. I like the way they got out the field. I like them uniforms. The quarterback, Lenore Sellers. Sellers. Yeah. Yeah. He played, he played well today. And he has that ability. He's a true dual threat. He has a nice lively arm.

39:22Shannon Sharpe:obviously can run out, can get out the pocket and make plays. I thought they did a great job of Mike Shuler's calling the plays. Mike Shuler called plays in the NFL. And so, Simmons was 12 of 19, 209, one touchdown, clean game, no interceptions. They had 37 carries for a buck, 19, one touchdown. But the defense played well. Carolina defense played well. Very, very well. A safety in three field goals, you can live with that. You can live with that. Mm-hmm. But I like those uniforms. Carolina got some nice uniforms, yeah. You like the all black? I like the all black. I like that all black. All right, it's all right.

40:06You ain't like Virginia Tech all orange? No? Yeah.

40:11Shannon Sharpe:Maybe they have Mike Vick out there running around in them. I'd have liked them. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Florida State quarterback Tommy Castellanos mocks Alabama with merch after opening upset prior to FSU game, Castellanos stated they don't have Nick Saban to save them I just don't see them stopping me Castellanos not only backed up beating Baltimore 31-17 but now is profiting off it he's selling on Shirt's website taunting Alabama merch Nick can't save them what's the pettiest thing you've ever done after backing up your trash talk on the field, Locho? Hey, that's a funny thing. Wait, excuse my ignorance.

40:47As a collegiate kid, are you allowed to sell merch like that and profit from it? Outside of NIL? You can do that? Yeah, I guess so. Oh, that's dope. I like that. For one, the fact that Castellanos said that before week one against a team like Alabama and then went out there and backed it up? And did it. Man, please. He did. Alumni and all them students probably brought all that stuff up, right? Of course.

41:13Shannon Sharpe:Of course. It's only up from here. Yeah, absolutely. It's only up from here. Just keep winning. Keep winning. And your pocket's going to get fatter and fatter, young man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. He was 9-14, a buck 52, 16 rushes, 78 yards. But he was the quarterback of note. His team won. He played really, really well. He didn't have stats to blow you away. The most impressive stat that a quarterback can have is a win. W. Because at the end of the day, that's how we measure. That's how we're supposed to measure quarterback. And he's won more, and he beat Alabama. And we know what Florida State has been over the last couple years.

41:51Shannon Sharpe:There are a lot of people that were calling for their head coach's job. But the alumni and the – they stayed – the booster and the president, they stayed true. We believe in this guy because they had just went – what? Didn't they go to the – I think – nah, they had lost their quarterback. They didn't make the college football playoff. They lost their quarterback. He got hurt. His leg. But came back, and here they are, opened the season with a big-time win. They weren't ranked, but they will be when the rankings come out on Tuesday. Yeah, absolutely. But that's what you have to do, Ocho. You have to go out there.

42:26Shannon Sharpe:He said what he said, and he went out there and backed it out. He backed it up, and he's right. Coach Saban couldn't save him. Kalen DeBoer, you got to get in on the action, bro. It's time to go. In April, Nico Amaliva decided to walk away from Tennessee Balls after feeling that he wasn't being paid what he deserved. At Tennessee, Amaliva NIO deal was around$2 million mark, but he wanted to bump to approximately$4 million, and increased Tennessee was unwilling to grant. However, at UCLA, Amaliva took a pay cut, earning only$1.2 million. And then when you factor in the state laws at California, 50%, he makes$600 ,000.

43:07Shannon Sharpe:UCLA opened the season on Saturday against Utah.

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45:00Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song. I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia. Ayo, rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook. Every episode, we're trying to help our guests improve their careers by mainly focusing on and how they can help us improve our careers. The show is famously super accessible, so you can easily jump into any of our 650 episodes and understand what's going on.

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45:56Shannon Sharpe:I call him Tarot Reed. It's a good name. They're all named after cast members of American Pie. Yeah. I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobieski. I don't think she was in American Pie, but I still like that. Haven't looked it up. Haven't looked it up. She was prominent around the same time. Then Mary Steenburgen. Why are you guys talking to me? I'm worried. Why are you talking so down to me that you think I don't understand your little play game? I'm just really trying to set you up for success here. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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47:25Shannon Sharpe:And they lost 43-10. He finished with 11 completions on 22 pass attempts, 50%, 136 pass yards, one touchdown, one interception. Hey, sometimes you got to be careful. Yes. Sometimes you got to be careful. Now, this is just not a message for him. This is a message for him in life in general. Sometimes you're in situations where you want more and you think the grass is green on the other side when you got stability right there in your backyard. You got comfortability right there in your backyard. And Tennessee is a no state, not to cut you off, Ochoa, but if I'm not mistaken, I think Tennessee is a no state income tax state.

48:05You got to understand that. Then you're trying to be greedy. Your play on the field is going to take care of itself. If you want more money in NIL, you take care of that in between the lines. With your play, they will have no problem bumping you up. They let you go for a reason. They let you go seek out what you're looking for, which is more, elsewhere. And then you go somewhere where you make less and they tax you more. And they tax more. And you lost your first game against Utah. Come on, man. That's a life lesson in itself, too, Unc. So? That's a life lesson in itself.

48:43Shannon Sharpe:So, a million dollars. So you're at 36 % tax rate. so every million dollars you get 630 000 so he could have made 1.2 60 now he's making 600 000 so he left 600 000 on the table that's money in his pocket come on you got you got you got to do better understand the situation you in because california is a i think a 13 percent yeah 13 state income tax so you figure 36 plus 13 that's 49 percent then you got FICA and then you got all these other because California hit you over your head. Oh, they coming to get there. Boy, California hit you over your head. They get there. But they get all that. All that.

49:30They need to use that goddamn money to expand the goddamn 405 and make it 200.

49:36Shannon Sharpe:Evicted traffic. Well, if that's the case, they need to make it to 18. They don't need to expand nothing. Look, I mean, California, they be taxing and they got what probably the fourth or fifth largest GDP of anywhere in the world and we talk about a state we're talking about the United States we talk about a state within the United States that's how much money that they make um it's just that you can't take care of every single person yeah you know and and and Cali try to they try to take care of every single person I think they waste a lot of money Oh Joe Michael Parsons was reportedly viewed by some Cowboys teammates as egotistical and self-centered oh man hold on Sports Illustrated Albert Breer reports Martin Lamb and Prescott are very popular in the locker room that's Zach Martin C.D.

50:31Shannon Sharpe:Lamb Zach Prescott that's not the case with Parsons who has rankled teammates in different ways seen by some as egotistical and self-centered his podcast which we knew Ocho has created issues too. And they go all the way up to the quarterback, Dak Prescott. We said that we would start hearing negative comments about Michael. Ocho, what did I tell you? When we had this conversation, I said, Ocho, now, pretty soon, you're going to start hearing negative comments about Michael sleeping at the locker room. I said, it's coming, Ocho. I know it's coming. But I always felt because here's the thing, Ocho.

51:11Shannon Sharpe:You do a podcast yes you lose the first thing they're gonna say if you get your ass off the podcast and practice and study your play you win games in order for your podcast you got to be interested you got to be entertaining so you got to take shots at other people and you know i think there was a situation wasn't they talking about quarterbacks and he didn't have dac in his top five or something like that yeah i remember that so yeah i get it i don't have a problem i I think the thing is, Ocho, a lot of people want to get in the media space, and they're trying to create that medium now. But you have to be careful.

51:50Shannon Sharpe:You really have to be careful. I tell guys, look, if CBS or Fox or NBC calls you and they ask you, go do it on your bi-week. Right. Go to your local news station. Talk sports. Talk to the guy that does sports. That's what I did when I was in Denver. I had a local radio show. but when they called me hey i would go do do highlights do something but this podcast i mean you have to be careful and plus and i'm gonna turn it over to you ocho everybody is not gonna be like in a locker room i don't how care how great you are there are gonna be some people that you're gonna rub the wrong way you don't talk too much you standoffish uh you don't talk enough you don't ingratiate yourself to the locker room so everybody is not gonna be beloved loved that's okay that's okay but i knew this podcast would cause an issue go ahead ocho it shouldn't have there's no reason it should cause the issues anything michael decides to do outside of the game of football when he's not playing when he's not in meetings we're not playing a game you know it's all for it i'm all for it if you know michael if you met him personally you understand he's a very playful fun loving guy he's not he's a likable person he's not in the type of player that you could not like, you know, or one of those people who come to work and it's strictly business, he doesn't associate with you.

53:10No, he's friendly. So, again, when things like this come out, of course, those who might not like him are those who probably don't do their goddamn job on Sundays at 1 o 'clock. I bet you that. Those who don't like him are the ones who don't show up like he showed up the past four years and doing what he's supposed to do and being one of the few who's had 12 sacks in the last four years at his position. I guarantee you that. Let's pull up the stats for the people or the person that's in that locker room that claims they don't like him. And I guarantee you it doesn't live up to the standard of their position that he lives up to as his.

53:43I bet you that. It's always some hate and ass shit. I'm sorry. It's always someone that's not frowned upon. Someone else who's doing something outside of the building, but they're handles their business inside of the building, especially in between the lines.

54:01Shannon Sharpe:That's it. It is. But I'm not, look, I'm not surprised. I'm sure there are a lot of people that like me in Denver. Some didn't. Some people like me in Baltimore. Some didn't. I guess some a little more now than others. But, hey, that's neither here nor there. Ocho, you know, Cincinnati. Hey, that threw me for a loop. That threw me for a loop. I mean, I know, I know, I know. But I'm just, yeah. It threw a lot of people for a loop, Ocho. But look, it's over with now. And let's go to that right here. Because this will add some layers to it. Just a week ago, Dak said he was confident Parson would be on the field for the Cowboys matchup week one.

54:45Shannon Sharpe:Well, Dak has a new tune since Michael got dealt. I definitely didn't think he was going to get traded, but just the way their negotiations went down, Obviously, to some extent, hell, y 'all were asking me questions. Remember, I said that's how it becomes a distraction because you're not asking me about the game. You're asking me about Michael's contract. Hell, y 'all were asking me questions. It seemed like it had gotten personal, which we said that it had become personal. And so that's why I wasn't surprised. Yeah, I told you. It's Jerry's ego. Now, it came out the day that Deron Bland got a contract extension.

55:23Shannon Sharpe:But did you know? No deserved. Well deserved. But they had been working with his representative since offseason. Jake Ferguson got a deal. They had been working with his representative all offseason. They're trying to get Tyler Smith done. They're working with his representative. You see here, Ocho? You see how Jerry's ego? Jerry's ego wouldn't let him work with Michael Aja because I'm going to show you I do what I want to do. And if you want to do a deal here, you're going to do it my way. So if you work with all of those guys' representative, he worked with C.D.'s representative, he worked with Dak's representative, I just listed three guys' representative that he worked with.

56:05Shannon Sharpe:But for some reason, he was unwilling to work with Micah's representative. Yeah, he took that friendship and those conversations to heart. He took those conversations and that friendship to heart. And Micah spit that right down the middle. Listen, I play for your team. You sign my checks. But when it comes to conducting business, you're going to have to talk to my representation, even after whatever handshake or whatever words might have been exchanged. That's not the way contracts work. That's not the business works. You were trying to undermine Micah Parsons. You were trying to pay him not what he's worth, obviously, because he mentioned about what he was offering.

56:45But the offering that he was paying Micah to make the highest paid was before T.J. Watt got paid. it was before Miles Garrett got paid

56:52Shannon Sharpe:and plus he said I'm gonna make you the highest paid but you added you added years you added a year to it uh uh trying to be slick trying to be slick um Miles Garrett Miles Garrett got four years 160

57:10Shannon Sharpe:no bro I'm not I'm not gonna let you do that I shook your hand but I told you call my agent call my representative you won't call the representative back no you try no no no no no he they told you no we don't you want to do a five year plus the option that's six years most agents want to keep that thing four plus the one because i want another bite at this not because what once michael contract once his uh that 31 36 guaranteed money so within the first three years he's not going to have any more guaranteed money the back end Ocho. So now, and plus, that means his cap number is going to be extremely high.

57:50Shannon Sharpe:Because I get to prorate that 120 over a five-year period. So I try to divvy it up equally. But at the back end, those last couple years, Ocho, that thing going to be high to draft here. So now I come back to the table. Well, you know, six years, nah, Michael says, hey, I'm 26. I can get another bite of this apple at 30. Y 'all have to see your boy at 30. 30, come on now.

58:23Shannon Sharpe:But that's what I'm looking at. I'm like, hold on. What you mean they talk to Deron Bland's representative? What do you mean they talk to Jake Ferguson's representative? What do you mean they're looking to talk to Tyler Smith's representative? Micah just asked to talk to my representative. No, we had a deal. No, we didn't. I shook your head and told you. Call my agent. Right. He knew what the agent was going to say. Oh, he knew. No. Hey, wait. The supposedly the best agent in the game? Oh, you knew exactly what he was going to say. You knew exactly. You can't pull a fast one on the agent. Right.

58:59Pull a fast one on the player.

59:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because he looking at Michael looking at Ocho. He looking at that. Man, 200 million, Ocho? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, it looked good. It looked good. But the agent got a magnifying glass. Let me peel back some of these layers to this$20 million you're talking about. You know? I got light on, Ocho. I got light on. You know what I'm saying? It was dark in the room. I got your feet. You know how you go into your restaurants, Ocho? And they hand you the menu? I pull out my phone right quick, put that light on. And whoo, any prices? Damn. Hey, it never, it never, ever seems what they say it is.

59:36Never. That's why you need representation.

59:38Shannon Sharpe:That's it. I'm not saying we've seen guys, we see Lamar and his mom and with the help of an NFL PA lawyer do the contract themselves. But they made it abundantly clear. We're not hiring representation. We'll do something hourly. We'll get an NFL PA. We saw Bobby Wagner do that. We saw Sherm do his own contract. OK, if the guy says I'm doing my own contract, I got no problem with that. You can the owner, the general manager can work directly with the player. You see Shea Gilgis. Now, it's a lot easier in basketball because you either get in the max or damn near close to a max deal. So Shea says, I'm not going to hand over three, four percent when I already know I'm going to get the max.

1:00:17Shannon Sharpe:Right. Got it. Got it. But in the NFL, hey, Lamar says, I feel I can go it alone. That three percent, I can keep that in my pocket. And when you're dealing with that kind of money, it's three percent. Don't seem like much. When you start dealing 100, 200, 300 million dollars, three percent is a damn lot of money. A whole lot of money. So with that being said, he knew Michael had representation. Now, he worked with everybody else's representation. Now, if that's what I read was correct, it says he worked. They've been working with Deron Bland's representation all offseason. Same thing with Jake Ferguson, and they're working with Tyler Smith, trying to get something done now.

1:00:55Shannon Sharpe:We know they worked with Dak Prescott. He's the highest paid. He didn't do a deal directly with Dak. He worked with Todd France. who's the uh cd's agent he worked with that but for some reason i i just need to know why was he so unwilling to work with david mugaletta that i just need somebody to explain that to me also probably understand maybe he didn't want to pay michael all along maybe didn't want to pay michael all along understanding that he had other deals coming off the table like the ron bland or whatever he's getting ready to do with jake ferguson or whoever else they might pay before the CAA.

1:01:31Okay.

1:01:32Shannon Sharpe:Okay, they would CAA. Yeah, but here's the thing, Ocho. If that's the case, if you needed to stop the run, if you didn't like the way Micah was hurt, if you don't think Micah, so why would you negotiate? So why would you want to do a deal with the guy? If he's not what you think he is or he's not the player, so why would you even enter? Why would you even try to work a deal with him? Why not just go ahead and trade him? Why not get a draft pick this year? Because he was lying to himself. Oh, he was lying to us, trying to make us believe that he's the reason. Yes. Trying to make us believe, like, okay, now he's gone.

1:02:05Well, we let him go because, hey, we need to get better at stopping the run. Child, please. Stop playing.

1:02:11Shannon Sharpe:You hadn't been able to stop the run for four years. So what you got all those defensive tackles for? You see, the problem that I have is that your defense was not built to stop the run. Your offense was. And Shannon, what do you – I know, Chad, you're asking me, I said, well, Shannon, what do you mean by that? His offense was bid to get the lead. And so now his defense pinned their ears back. They're an undersized defense. And as long as you can keep the game close or you can get the lead, you can pound their ass. Pause. You can run the ball. Because I know y 'all about to say some crazy stuff.

1:02:44Shannon Sharpe:So in other words, you can run the ball on them because they're built to play with the lead and get pressure. Now, guess what? They ain't got no lead. they have to stand up in there and a lot of those guys ain't got a whole lot of bricks in their back pocket so when you build your off when you build your team a certain way well you build your team with speed you need to be able to use it and if you got a team that want to run the football speed don't help you nah at all so uh that's that's one of the things um and look and people like well Dak could have did. No, if I'm Dak, I ain't doing nothing.

1:03:26Shannon Sharpe:I'm getting all my money. Oh, absolutely. My job, you tell us he's a player. Ocho, what did they tell us? He's a player. Well, if I'm a player, my job ain't trying to figure out the cap. You figure out the cap. You don't pay me extra to work on the cap. You pay me a salary to do what I do on the football field. All that other stuff, it ain't my job to worry about the cap. Well, you know they got a cap, and you can only do so I ain't got nothing to do with me. you know what else you know what else works in favor especially in quarterback positions especially in Dak's position there have been other quarterbacks that have been in great situations where the timing of when it's time for them to get paid there's nowhere else for that team to go right there's nowhere else for that team to go to get someone that's competent enough to come in come in and be quarterback number one so you ain't got no choice but to pay these young fellas what they owe at the time you got no choice because there's no other there's no other option Right.

1:04:19Shannon Sharpe:And plus, I'm not. First of all, I don't trust Jerry. Jerry ain't built nothing in 30 years. So why would I why am I going to leave him money on the table? Why am I? First of all, this is my really first big bite at the apple. Why am I going to give a guy that's worth 15 billion? Why am I going to give him a discount? Absolutely not. Chad, let's just say for the sake of argument, you work for a company and that company worth 20 billion. and they say, you know what, Charlene, we want to get Pam in HR, but it's going to cost us to go take$15 ,000 of your money. Well, Charlene ain't going to be in HR because you ain't taking a dime of mine.

1:04:57Shannon Sharpe:So, no, you don't give no billionaire no discount. You a millionaire. Now, if the next contract that wants to be generous enough. That's different. That's on him. but I feel no obligation to cut you a slack so you can, no, no, no, that ain't got nothing to do with me. Not that first one. No. Not that first one. No, sir. Because what Jerry say, when CBS, I don't know if you watched this, CBS had the broadcast right. A lot of the other owners, CBS was losing money. A lot of the other owners wanted to keep CBS as the broadcast partner. Jerry said, no, we're not cutting them a deal. We're not going to do it.

1:05:35Shannon Sharpe:But see, Jerry refute go ask CBS, go ask NBC, go ask Fox, go ask Amazon, go ask Netflix. Did y 'all get a deal with these NFL rights?

1:05:52Shannon Sharpe:They didn't get a deal, but they expect players. Well, Shannon, there's a cap. What they got to do with me? Ain't no cap on my bank account. My bank account says there's much money that'll pour in. We can take it. That ain't got nothing to do with me because teams will make as much money as they can. Now, it's going to be something very interesting, Ocho. Now, you watch for these next contracts. Watch around 28. Because these things come due. They come and due, Ocho, about 20, so 2020, about 10 years. Watch around 28 when they start doing it. YouTube is going to say, hey, we want some of this.

1:06:26Netflix is going to say, hey, man, live programming.

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1:06:44Shannon Sharpe:So that 430, that 432, going to probably be 650. Come 2028, 2029. Yeah, I'm going to get me a little piece of that. Hey, so, man, please. Yeah, we're going to get me a little piece of that. I need to holler at Jeff. I got an interview with Jeff Bezos for a position over at Amazon. So I'm excited to see how that's going to go. All right. I'm Nick Turturro. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, The Longest Yard, or Spike Lee's Black Klansman. And on my new podcast, Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro, I deliver pizza to a new guest. I've shared a slice with everyone, from Seth Rollins. What are you doing with my belt?

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