In short
Nightcap Hour 1 reacts to the Minnesota Vikings’ 27-24 MNF comeback win over the Chicago Bears (down 17-6), discusses why J.J. McCarthy’s first start turnaround mattered, then pivots to Russell Wilson staying QB1 for the Giants vs. Dallas and the outlook for rookie Jackson Dart. Later, linebacker Daiyan Henley (Chargers) joins.
Guests
Chad Ochocinco Johnson (co-host) and Shannon Sharpe (co-host). Daiyan Henley joins as a guest; he’s a 23-year-old Chargers linebacker.
Guest backgrounds (Henley)
NFL linebacker; played under/with Jim Harbaugh’s coaching staff (Harbaugh discussed as a major influence). Mentions linebacker coach Navarro Bowman and the physical, tenacious “fight for the leader” culture.
Key claims
- Bears’ offense regressed despite spending heavily on the offensive line and adding talent; Caleb Williams “ran for his life.”
- Vikings’ defense (Brian Flores) pressured Chicago and created the momentum swing.
- McCarthy’s resilience after a pick-six and his two TDs in the comeback are emphasized as a major factor.
- Giants will not start Dart immediately; Wilson remains QB1 despite poor Week 1 under pressure.
Notable examples
- Vikings scored 21 unanswered after leading 17-6 deficit reversal.
- Discussion of Bears’ offensive line spending and Williams being sacked repeatedly.
- Giants schedule stretch used to argue why Wilson likely stays starter.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGame Recap: Vikings vs. Bears
0:00 to 0:34
Discussion about the Vikings' comeback win against the Bears.
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Game Recap: Vikings vs. Bears
4:36 to 5:23
Discussion about the Vikings' comeback win against the Bears.
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Game Recap: Vikings vs. Bears
5:29 to 6:10
Discussion about the Vikings' comeback win against the Bears.
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Quarterback Performances: J.J. McCarthy
6:10 to 11:12
Analysis of J.J. McCarthy's performance in the game.
“Caleb Williams was running for his life.”
Momentum Shifts in the Game
11:12 to 14:04
Exploring how momentum affected the game's outcome.
“this is a division game, and they're doing it with a rookie quarterback.”
Analyzing the Game Momentum
14:04 to 17:25
Learn how momentum affects game outcomes in football, illustrated through recent matchups.
“And the momentum, you know when the momentum, when you're home and away, it does not matter.”
Dissecting Chicago Bears' Performance
17:25 to 19:58
Discussion on the disappointing performance of the Chicago Bears and their offensive strategy.
“And the offensive line doesn't look any better.”
Historic Debut for J.J. McCarthy
19:58 to 20:42
Discover J.J. McCarthy's impressive debut as the first Vikings quarterback to achieve multiple touchdown passes in his first game.
“Um, JJ McCarthy is the first Vikings quarterback with multiple touchdown passes in his first NFL game since hall of famer, 1961, Fran Tarkin.”
Dissecting Chicago Bears' Performance
21:20 to 22:11
Discussion on the disappointing performance of the Chicago Bears and their offensive strategy.
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Dissecting Chicago Bears' Performance
22:17 to 23:25
Discussion on the disappointing performance of the Chicago Bears and their offensive strategy.
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Russell Wilson's Struggles and Future
23:38 to 28:00
In-depth discussion on Russell Wilson's performance and future with the Giants.
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Discussing Russell Wilson and Offensive Strategies
28:00 to 29:19
Explore the implications of Russell Wilson's playing status and team strategies.
“because we're getting him ready to play.”
Analyzing Upcoming Giants' Schedule
29:20 to 33:04
Review the upcoming challenges for the Giants and how it affects their performance.
“So I just, I think that's kind of the direction that the Giants are going to head in.”
The Pressure on Daniel Jones and the Giants
33:05 to 36:21
Discuss the pressure on Daniel Jones and the implications of his performance.
“At Denver, at Philly, the 49ers at home.”
Evaluating Offensive Linemen Performance
36:22 to 39:01
Investigate the performance of offensive linemen and their impact on the game.
“They bet on one guy, Daniel Jones, and that wasn't it.”
Evaluating Offensive Linemen Performance
39:02 to 42:06
Investigate the performance of offensive linemen and their impact on the game.
“Well, I didn't go to Alabama, and I ain't got no big-time boosters.”
Evaluating Offensive Linemen Performance
42:12 to 43:19
Investigate the performance of offensive linemen and their impact on the game.
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Evaluating Offensive Linemen Performance
43:24 to 43:38
Investigate the performance of offensive linemen and their impact on the game.
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Interview with Daiyan Henley
44:34 to 46:08
Linebacker Daiyan Henley discusses his mindset and team's goals.
“All right, Ocho, joining us right now, linebacker Dayon Henley.”
Harbaugh's Coaching Impact
46:08 to 48:23
Henley shares insights on Jim Harbaugh's coaching style and influence.
“Y 'all young bulls out there flying around, playing with tenacity, being physical, coming to the party as a group.”
Navarro Bowman's Legacy
48:23 to 50:51
Discussion on Navarro Bowman's career and influence on Henley.
“I mean, the dude's personality, it goes through any room.”
Evolution from QB to LB
50:51 to 56:01
Henley reflects on his transition from quarterback to linebacker.
“and it's like, you know, you got that type of resume and then you become a coach.”
Creating a Legacy with Number Zero
56:01 to 57:56
Learn about the significance of wearing number zero in the NFL and how it represents personal legacy.
“Once you get into that mindset, you can kind of just go from there.”
The Physical Toll of Football
57:57 to 59:39
Daiyan Henley discusses the physical challenges athletes face during the season and training camp.
“Hey, listen, you've gotten through training camp.”
Navigating Life Choices Amidst Challenges
59:40 to 1:02:09
Daiyan shares insights on avoiding negative influences and the importance of supportive family.
“Hey, man, stop mentioning them with me on the line.”
Giving Back to the Community
1:02:10 to 1:03:46
Daiyan discusses his commitment to inspiring youth and serving as a role model in his community.
“I like that you made a positive decision.”
Preparing for the Raiders Matchup
1:03:47 to 1:05:54
The conversation shifts to the upcoming game against the Raiders, focusing on team strategy.
“They look at me like I'm just Deion, you know?”
Farewell and Future Aspirations
1:05:55 to 1:09:58
Daiyan shares his aspirations and appreciation before concluding the interview.
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Farewell and Future Aspirations
1:10:51 to 1:11:14
Daiyan shares his aspirations and appreciation before concluding the interview.
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Transcript
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3:48Shannon Sharpe:Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the Minnesota Vikings go on the road and defeat the division rival Chicago Bears by the score of 27-24. At one point, this game was 17-6 in Chicago's favor. And the next thing you know is 27-17. That's just how quickly this game turned around. Thank you for joining us again. As I mentioned, I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host. He's Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, Madding's ratings adjuster, the former Pro Bowler All-Pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please make sure y 'all hit that subscribe button.
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5:43Shannon Sharpe:the Debo and Joe show, James Harrison and Joe Hayden. Please go subscribe to their YouTube page, Debo and Joe. They'll be live tomorrow morning at 11 a.m. with reaction to tonight's game. Remember, every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday, 11 a.m. Eastern, they will be live. You'll be able to see Debo and Joe. We've got Chargers' Dayon Henley joining us a bit later. But first, Ocho, this game. I didn't I'm speechless Ocho because Minnesota was just going around like how long Justin Jefferson before he threw his helmet up in his stands because they're not targeting him JJ threw a horrible pick you know horrible pick six you know that deep out if you late and inside he got a reservation for six in the end zone and the next thing you know Minnesota has seized control of this ball game I'm almost certain the Chicago Bears spent$94 million, excuse me, on offensive linemen.
6:45Shannon Sharpe:They got a new center. They got a new left guard. They got a new right tackle. Ocho, I couldn't tell. No. Caleb Williams was running for his life. If Caleb Williams was Jerry Goff, he's sacked 10 times tonight. Easily. Easily. He's running for his life. And I was like, hold on. I thought you and I both, because we talked about this, Ocho, they improved the offensive line. They got Roma Dunze. They got DJ Moore. They got Zaccheaus. They got another tight end. They got Cole Komet. Defense seemed to be flying around. And they got Ben Johnson calling plays. DA, Dennis Allen is the new DC. I said, I like Chicago.
7:24Shannon Sharpe:Rebam the offensive line. Also, the offensive line looked the same, if not worse, than what it did last year. Give Minnesota credit. I have to give JJ McCarthy a lot of credit. Theoretically, he's not a rookie. but last year he got hurt in his rookie season. But this is like his rookie season. To throw a pick six on the road and not get down, Ocho, and to come back and throw two touchdowns and to win this game in your first start, give J.J. McCarthy some credit. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, watching this game, I really thought at some point I thought the Bears were going to run away with this one.
7:59I did too. Caleb Williams looked like Houdini back there. Obviously, being able to process dropping back when things don't happen, one of the few quarterbacks in the NFL that can make something out of nothing when things break down. He looked good, made some very good throws. Obviously, once the pick six happened, once the pick six happened, J.J. left that out route inside. I was like, you know what? Yeah, at this point, this one's over. This game is over. Man, J.J. kept on plugging. He did. kept on plugging, a play here, a play there. He also, being a dual-threat quarterback, both of them could move with the ball, too.
8:38Yeah, for sure. Yeah, both of them could move with the ball. Man, before you know it, man, we got a ball game, baby. We got a ball game.
8:48Shannon Sharpe:You're looking at Ocho. You throw that out route. You got to be early and outside. Because even if you're late, it's going to be knocked down at worst. Yeah. No, it'll be knocked down at best. The worst thing that'll happen is a pick six going the other way. But if you late and inside. Oh, yeah. And you got to have an arm. You know, most coaches don't. You throw it from the bar hash all the way out? You got to have an arm. So, obviously, J.J. must got a gun on him for the coaches to be comfortable with him even throwing that ball. But it's all about placement. it's all about you want to miss far rather than miss inside when he catch that ball Ocho he out of bounds you catch it you get two feet down you out of bounds basically when you throw that when that joker playing that right foot that ball need to be in the air because he's running on the speed now he's not stopping so he's running a speed out yeah so when he hit so before he hit that ball got to be in the air when he speed out when he 10 roll to 12 Yeah.
9:55Shannon Sharpe:He's got a drop in his hands. When his eyes turn back to look for the ball, that ball already got to be in the air. Oh, for sure. He got that ball got to already be in the air, and he got to catch the eye line of the ball in flight. Not watch it leaving your hand, because if it's leaving your hand. Oh, it's way too late, that guy. It's way too late. And you see, first of all, Ocho, the dude playing off. Yeah. So once he see, now he ran out and up, he cooked. but you see how hard he drove on that Ocho? So he knew, he knew, hey, once he saw Jetta put that foot in the dirt, he said, you're running out of the out, I'm driving this.
10:35Shannon Sharpe:Gotta trust it though. Because a lot of guys, they have a tent, I don't know, what if it's an out and up? And you know, you might get there to knock it down. He's like, nah, I'm gonna trust this. If they got an out and up coach, oh well, they got me on this one. That's what I mean. I'm taking this one to the house. But Minnesota, I didn't see – I saw no signs of life because think about it, Ochoa. Like I said, the score was 17-6. Yeah. 17-6. And the next thing you know, Minnesota scored 21 unanswered. Chicago got a late touchdown, got a late touchdown to make it 27-24. But I think Minnesota going on the road in a hostile environment, this is a division game, and they're doing it with a rookie quarterback.
11:19Shannon Sharpe:And for him to put up the stats that he did, look, it wasn't, you know, 13 or 21, 43. They ran the ball 26 times for a buck 20. But for him to go on the road in that environment and to do when things do not. Because if he got off to a great start, I totally understood them winning. But it got off to a shaky start. And for him to keep plugging away and keep plugging away. It's quarterback coach Josh McCown. I say within three years, Josh McCown is the head coach. Oh, Josh. What you're over under three years, Ocho, head coach. Yeah, probably. Especially with quarterback success. Anytime you coach a specific position and that specific position continues to succeed on whatever team you're coaching.
12:03Especially if it's the quarterback. Yeah, you're going to get your opportunity. Yeah. Definitely going to get your opportunity.
12:10Shannon Sharpe:He played a long time, you know, backup, made some plays. I mean, I think he played like 17, 18 years, Ocho. Long time. Yeah, he played a long time. But Minnesota, you got to give Minnesota credit, Chad. Because like I said, I didn't see – I saw nothing that would make me believe that they had a chance to win this game, especially through the first three quarters. I saw nothing. I saw no life, especially offensively. Now, give the defense credit and the D.C., who's the former coach of the Dolphins, give him credit because he had those guys flying around. They're making plays. Van Grinkle and Hargrove, those guys were flying around tonight.
12:51Shannon Sharpe:That's one thing he could do. Now, he dialed up that defense. They'll get after you. He's about to do Vikings. Vikings, D.C. Yeah, Brian Flores. Flores, yes, yes, Flores. Oh, give him credit. He had those guys playing. Yeah. They were getting pressure with four guys. Occasionally they'll bring extra pressure. but I thought Chicago would be better because they invested in what many thought was a weakness, which is their offensive line. Tooney is an all pro, a pro bowl player. They got Jackson from the Rams. I forget where the center came from, but they got it. And I'm like, damn, are y 'all sure?
13:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Did y 'all forget how to block? Did y 'all forget how to pass it? Did you get out of the run block? I'm like, cause this is, this is a, a, a, a recap of what it was last year. Last night, basically. Hell, J.J. McCarthy, he threw two TDs in less than what, three, four minutes? Yep. Yep. Matter of fact, it's games like this, like what we saw last night and what we saw tonight, where people say, oh, man, 17-6, this game is over. No, they go do something else, go in the garage and come back in, and the Vikings win the game. Oh, man, hell no, this shit is rigged. Man, you know everything rigged.
14:09It's all red. And listen, it was surprising to me too, but to actually watch it unfold, I'm like, well, God damn, I see why people say that, but then you think to yourself, no, it ain't red because I haven't been out there on that field.
14:24Shannon Sharpe:And the momentum, you know when the momentum, when you're home and away, it does not matter. That's what I try to explain to people, Ocho. When you have the momentum, you're going to have it because the momentum is going to swing. you get it, they get it, you get it, they get it, they get it. How much separation can you put between you and the team when you have the momentum? Because they're going to get it back at some point. Absolutely. And if you haven't put enough space separation, they're going to come back and bite you. Well, you would think with that momentum, you would think a 17-6 lead is enough space to not lose the game.
15:01But you have J.J. come together in that fourth quarter. It's like, well, who the hell is?
15:06Shannon Sharpe:well if you think about it Ocho that's really that's not I mean 17 6 that's really a touchdown a two point conversion in the field goal it's not like the Ravens last night the Ravens were up 15 with under five minutes to go so now Ocho you need a touchdown you need two touchdowns and a two point conversion just to get even yeah just to get even so that was a little bit more formidable especially and it's still like you said it's the fourth quarter right but i thought that was a more of seemingly an insurmountable lead than what we saw tonight but considering you got a rookie yeah who hadn't been doing much that is look no matter what you thought about buffalo that they do have the reigning mvp yeah they do have a guy that you know he can go crazy we haven't seen we haven't seen anything from jj mccarthy that would make us think that the Minnesota had that in them other than pride other than this was the division rival and we know them they know us because guess what Ben Johnson he was at he was at Detroit last year so offensively even though he's at another team Brian Flores already know what he's gonna run because I've been coaching against this guy for the last two three years so I know what I know who and what he is the only thing changes the color of the uniforms now now O 'Connell is going to have to go back and look at, say, D.A.
16:32Shannon Sharpe:and see what he ran when he was in New Orleans. Maybe pull out some tape when he was the head coach at the Raiders or old footage of when he was at D.C. at Denver. But for the most part, they know this offense. They know Chicago's offense because Flores has been coaching against Ben Johnson for two to three years. But I was very disappointed in what I saw from Chicago, Ocho, offensively. You think so? Yeah. You got two number ones. Okay, you got Roman Dunze, number one pick. You got DJ Moore. You got Cole Komet. You got Zacchaeus. You got Loveland. And you got the number one pick in the draft.
17:17Shannon Sharpe:And you rebuilt your offensive line. You spent$94 million. 55 of it goes this year towards that offensive line. And the offensive line doesn't look any better. Yeah. You had Chicago. You said Chicago was your surprise team. I did. I did. You did. So you should be surprised also. They look like this. To me, I'm throwing caution to the win simply because it's week one. That's all. That's all. And I've done that. You notice when it comes to the week one games, I haven't been too crazy. The way the Dolphins look, the chance of them actually looking that bad again in back-to-back weeks is slim and none.
17:56It's the NFL. So because it's week one, I've given almost every team some grace. Now we get down the road, Duncan, we in week three or week four, and stuff is looking like what we saw tonight, allowing teams to come back from being down in a deficit like that, and they come back and win in the fourth quarter. What happened the other night with Baltimore, with the field scoring 16 points in a four-minute span in an NFL game in one quarter? They scored 22 points in the fourth quarter.
18:28Shannon Sharpe:They scored 28 in the second half. Yeah. Hey, we talk about in real life, not a video game, real life. Yeah. Josh had like 247 passing yards, if I'm not mistaken, in the fourth quarter alone. It was crazy. But again, week one, I'm going to give the Bears really some grace. Watching Kayla Williams made some good throws, had to run for his life. He had to be Houdini. Yeah, man. Oh, my goodness. And I don't know. Joe Tooney would be the captain. Left guard. I mean, yeah, he would be the leader of that offensive line. And I think Jonah Jackson, the guy from the Rams, I think Delman or Dahlman. I'm not sure.
19:15Shannon Sharpe:I just I just glanced at his name when he was on the back because it was, you know, you could see it. And the next thing you know, it was sideways. I couldn't see it because he was chasing somebody that was going by. But this is not. No. This is not what Ben Johnson envisioned. Like you said, it is the first game, but I just thought I would see more. I would see better from what I saw from the Chicago Bears. But give Minnesota credit. They go on the road basically with a rookie quarterback, and they get a very hard-fought division win. So they're tied with Green Bay. I want to know what top the division and the bears and the lions are Oh, and one they're at the bottom of the division.
19:58Shannon Sharpe:Oh, drew Dahlman. That's his name. Drew Dahlman. Um, JJ McCarthy is the first Vikings quarterback with multiple touchdown passes in his first NFL game since hall of famer, 1961, Fran Tarkin. That performance also came against the bears. Hmm. I don't know if you don't remember Fran, but Fran used to be running all over the field. Fran might have been the first scrambling quarterback, huh? No, maybe. Yeah. Fran talking to award number 10. Yeah, come on. I went to two of his games. Yeah, he was scrambling. But that's a – congratulations, Minnesota, 27-24. Congratulations, J.J. McCarthy. Two touchdown passes.
20:44Shannon Sharpe:First time it's been done by a starter, a rookie. What? Hold on. What was the thing? The first Vikings quarterback with multiple touchdown passes in his first NFL game. There have been a lot of quarterbacks start for Minnesota between 61 and 25. But J.J. McCarthy and Fran Tarkin are the only two to do it. And you're talking about my sister was born in 60, so she's 65. So 64 years, has a lapse between a quarterback and his first NFL game, two touchdown passes. Congratulations, J.J. McCarthy. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice.
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24:59Shannon Sharpe:Russ will be the starter. Russ went 17-37, 168 with no touchdowns or interceptions in a season-opening loss. He was especially ineffective under pressure, Ocho. Two of 12, 26 yards with two sacks, two scrambles. New York managed just 231 yards of total offense, installed twice inside the red zone. I think the last thing you want to do, Ocho, is start a rookie on the road in Dallas, a division rival, hostile environment. All things being equal, I would rather start him at home or coming out of the bye. so I get a little extra time to prepare. But what you think, Ocho? I mean, listen, there's no question, not the panic.
25:36You're hitting the panic button after week one. Obviously, if you watch the game, if you watch the Giants play against the commanders, hell, Russell is running for his life too. Now, what he does have to do, he has to settle down in that pocket a little bit. I know you're getting hit upside the head. I know you're getting hit upside the head. Sometimes, take the first throw you see and just let it go because you're holding on to the ball, waiting for things to develop, and you don't have the time for that to happen. No. It showed. Listen, if I don't, again, in situations like that, with the defensive line on top of Russell Wilson, where he can't make the throws or see the passing lanes that he wants to, I'm getting the ball out right away.
26:12Right away. Understanding what defense in front of me, and whatever my first read is, boy, the ball is coming right away. So get your head around. I want to get the ball out right away, but nobody's open right away.
26:24Shannon Sharpe:Because the thing I'm trying to do is I'm trying to take that first throw away. and I look first of all there got to be lanes Russ is only so tall it's not like he's Josh Allen it's not like he can see over the linemen and see down the field he needs lanes to be able to see all things being equal he'd like to buy some time he'd like to be you know a little outside of the pocket so I can clearly see yeah but I agree with you I think maybe if not after the first game but I still believe over under eight games that Jackson Dart is going to be starting. Now, it's going to be interesting to see there's reports that they might have a package or two for Jackson Dart on Sunday.
27:07Shannon Sharpe:The question is, do you think they'll have a package on Sunday in Dallas for Jackson Dart? Or they just let Russ ride it out? Let Russ cook. Let him cook. If you're the head chef for the restaurant, right? If you're a head chef for the restaurant, you don't want one of the waiters outside coming in and telling you how to cook. You don't want them messing up your rhythm as a quarterback. Listen, if Jackson Dart is going to sit, allow him to do just that. Allow him to sit. If Russell Wilson is your head chef, let the man be quarterback number one until you decide to make a change. Hell, you might not have to make a change.
27:44You might not have to. But why prep Jackson Dart and getting him ready? What message does that send to Russell Wilson? If he's quarterback number one, let him be quarterback number one. This ain't college. This ain't high school. Okay, you know what? We're going to make some packages for this individual because we're getting him ready to play. I don't like that message. I don't like what it sends to Russell Wilson. Let the man play until he loses his job. I remember when they drafted Lamar Jackson.
28:19Shannon Sharpe:They had packages for him. Yeah, yeah. you keep saying they say let russ cook but people keep sending the dish back so how i'm gonna keep
28:35somebody right on you they keep sending the dish back hey hey well you sharp boy you sharp that's
28:41Shannon Sharpe:a good one that's a good one different different sit the dish back pittsburgh sit the dish back i mean people keep sending the dish seem like uh the giants hadn't been pleased but they say you know what? Let's order something else. Maybe it was what we ordered that wasn't up to our standard or to our satisfaction. Let's order something else. What do you recommend, Chef Wilson? Because sometimes you go to a restaurant and they have what they call Chef's Choice. Yes. Whatever you like, Chef. Do what you do. How would you like that prepared? Chef's Choice. Yeah. You're right. So I just, I think that's kind of the direction that the Giants are going to head in.
29:32Shannon Sharpe:Can we get Dallas, can we get the Giants schedule? Can you put it in right quick? I think that's going to be more than anything, Ocho. Yes, sir. Because the last thing I want to do is, I mean, let's see Philly. Okay, Philly's on the road this week in Kansas City. that's not going to be an easy game but Kansas City is going to be without their two top receivers it looks like a word that's dealing with a dislocated shoulder I told you you're talking about the way that collision because like you said Ocho I mean just imagine you running and not I said the same thing I said it was grade 3 I thought it was a separate they said dislocation separation so me and the shoulder it came out.
30:20Yeah.
30:22Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. Let me put a jersey on. It's cold in here. Chat. They lost to Washington. Then they got at Dallas, Kansas City at home, Chargers at home, at New Orleans, Eagles at home, at Denver, at Philly, the Niners at home, at Chicago, Green Bay at home, at Detroit, at New England, Washington at home, Minnesota at home, at Las Vegas, Dallas at home. Whoo! They got a smoker. So basically you look at that from September the 14th until November the 2nd, they got Dallas, Kansas City, the Chargers, and New Orleans. we'll see. Philly, Denver, Philly, Niners. Chad, what y 'all thinking? How y 'all, what y 'all thinking?
31:24Shannon Sharpe:How many wins in there? At Dallas, Kansas City at home, Chargers at home, at New Orleans, Eagles at home, at Denver, at Philly, Niners at home. How many wins y 'all see?
31:41Shannon Sharpe:Whew! Boy, unless something unforeseen, I mean, whew! man, they're going to have to be on their best behavior. They're going to have to really play their ass off because.
31:54Who that?
31:55Shannon Sharpe:I was just, I just went over their schedule and they got, they're at Dallas. So I just went over their schedule from September 14th, which is Sunday all the way to November the 2nd. So they're at Dallas. They get Kansas city at home. They get the charges at home. They get the saints on the road, Eagles at home, Denver on the road, Philly on the road. That's their next seven games. Well, that's a nice little schedule, too. That's a nice little schedule. And listen, not only is it a nice little schedule, it's a great test for Russell Wilson. It's a great test for Russell Wilson to see if the ball wants to continue with him going forward or throw Jackson Thart out to the Wolves.
32:34We keep calling for Jackson Thart to come in and play, and that is a rookie in the same preseason. What you going to get out there in these regular season games where they're trying to confuse your quarterback and get you thinking, throw you off your pivot. It's a different ballgame. It's a different ballgame. Everybody, oh, put Jackson Dart in, put Jackson Dart in after one game. All right. All right. But boy,
33:08Shannon Sharpe:they got a little tough schedule, Ocho. Oh, yeah, absolutely. They got a tough schedule. The Cowboys. Kansas City at home. Oh, my God. The Chargers at home. Then they're at New Orleans. Then they get Philly at home. They can breathe a little bit. Oh, my God. At Denver, at Philly, the 49ers at home.
33:38Hey, I don't know who made that schedule, but that's perfect. that's personal yeah they gotta
33:50Shannon Sharpe:I just when you look at it Ocho is that the Giants are really like okay we don't want to like because everybody thinks that like if you go to a rookie you're kind of giving up on the season basically is what you're saying but
34:12Shannon Sharpe:I don't want my fans because with the fans booing every time we come off the field when we don't get no first downs and we putting well listen they're going to be booing extra loud you put Jackson out there and you can't get no first downs
34:31Shannon Sharpe:well I think people are more sympathetic to a rookie not getting the first down as opposed to Russ not getting first downs because they're looking at Jackson Dart as their future they're not looking at rust they're like man look russ is just a placeholder right and understandable um so but like you said i mean the the first two games on the road that's never that's never easy um even if you got one of the better teams um it's tough to win on the road it's tough to win in the nfl it's even tougher to win on the road and basically they give you two division opponents. You start the season with two division opponents on the road.
35:15Those first five or six games that they have in general.
35:18Shannon Sharpe:Yes. I mean, really probably the only game they're going to be favored in Ocho is probably, I didn't know they'd be favored against the Saints because the Saints are at home. They're not going to be favored against Dallas, Kansas City, the Chargers, New Orleans at home. They're not going to be favored. Excuse me. New Orleans on the road. They're not going to be favored at Philly at home. They're not going to be favored at Denver on the road, Philly on the road, or the 49ers at home. They're not going to be favored. No. That's nasty work. Whoever did the schedule, that's nasty work.
35:52Shannon Sharpe:I mean, their defense is going to have to keep them in some of these games. Games, yeah. And I think in order for that to happen, that means your offense can't turn the ball over. You got to possess the ball some because if you don't possess the ball enough, you'll wear your defense down and then a crack will turn into a full-blown, you know, overflow. Yeah. So that's what the Giants are up against. Like I said, I don't envy the position that they're in because they've got some tough decisions to make. They bet on one guy, Daniel Jones, and that wasn't it. They went back into the draft. They like Russ.
36:29Shannon Sharpe:Okay, hopefully Russ can hold us over until next year. Maybe he can, maybe he can't. But clearly they viewed Jackson Dart as their future. But, you know, and the offensive line, the offensive line isn't good. If somebody would have told me Evan Neal would turn out to be the player that he's turned out to be, he's not good. Alabama, consensus All-American, 6 '7", 340 pounds. They showed him he's jumping up on something with one leg. Ocho, big for no reason. He ain't paying out the way you thought? No. No. Hell, if they didn't pay him all that money, he'd be a big-ass equipment manager. But they got 50-60, but they got all that money tied up in.
37:16Shannon Sharpe:He was a top-10 pick. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when you look at them. He's supposed to be the left. They move him to the right because your left tackle is supposed to be your most athletic offensive lineman because he's dealing with the Miles Garrets. He's dealing with the Michael Parsons. He's dealing with those level of guys, the Von Millers. But so they took it from the left and put him on the right. So normally that's your run side. Most people are run right-handed dominant. They run to the right side. The 49ers buck that because Trent, T-Dub is a dominant run. But most teams, they run to the right.
37:54Shannon Sharpe:They put him on the right side, Ocho.
37:59Shannon Sharpe:I mean he's just like slowly I turn step by step and the guy done gone by him I'm like dude yeah and if they move him from left tackle they don't trust him they don't trust him that's the quarterback blindside the kind of money they pay the monk he's supposed to be at the left tackle because that's the money position that's what they drafted him as They drafted him as a left tackle. Yeah. Six foot seven, 325 pounds, 330, 340. Agile. I mean, in college, but that just goes to show you. So a lot of times you play them big guys in the name. Ooh, man. Right. Man, them guys in the NFL don't give a damn about your name.
38:45Shannon Sharpe:They don't care nothing about that. Oh, Alabama. Man, you heard about that big offensive tackle? He favored to win the Outland, the Lombardi, and this one and that one. And so you played in Alabama, you played in one of these prominent schools, people might fear that. Don't nobody fear nobody in the NFL. At all. I got kids to feed. Yeah, absolutely. I got bills to pay. I don't care who you play for. You finna get it's worth. Yes. What part is worth of it? Well, I didn't go to Alabama, and I ain't got no big-time boosters. I went to Savannah State, and we ain't got no big-time boosters that's offering jobs.
39:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And all the coaching positions of field. And General Johnson, he wasn't hiring me as a general manager of his car dealership. So I was going to be out of work. If somebody's going to be out of work, it ain't going to be me. That's all I'm saying. It ain't going to be me. I got choice. We got two choices. We got a choice to make. You and I both got a choice. One of us going to be out of work. I choose you. Now, who are you nominating? I'll show you who are you nominating.
39:51Shannon Sharpe:Man, please. I'm just I'm just surprised though Joe I just thought that he was like I was like man but if you go back and look at it a lot of those offensive linemen from Alex Leatherwood and Jonah with a lot of those guys didn't pan out yeah Dickerson he got hurt he'd wanted towards the ACL yes hell he might be that best lineman and uh they got another one that I think he plays center at uh at the end at the Colts but all the rest of those top linemen uh pork chop womack right right it's different it's different when the when the level of competition evens out and you're playing against Rome and all the stuff we did in college unless it carry unless it carries over and you're who we thought you were you'll get exposed huh right You're exactly right.
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44:38Shannon Sharpe:All right, Ocho, joining us right now, linebacker Dayon Henley. Dayon, how you doing, bro? Chilling, man. Good to see y 'all, man. You bet it's good to see you. Oh, geez. No, I'm only 23. I'm only 23. The OGs, man. The OGs. I appreciate that, bro. I'll gladly accept that. Big game Friday night. You're on the road in Brazil. You get there a little early. You understand what's at stake. Look, your guys went to the playoffs last year, but the big dog on top of the mountain that you guys trying to topple, the Broncos trying to topple, they're the team that's the red and the white. They've been at the top of the mountain for 12, 13 years consecutive.
45:22Shannon Sharpe:and you say, you know what, Coach Harbaugh come in there with that attitude, say, nah, you know what, it's time for a new king to be in the kingdom. What were you guys' thought process? How did you guys go out there and get this job done? I mean, like you just said, we already had that mindset that we was going against some guys who've been, you know, known to run the conference, not only the conference, but the league for the past few years. But we're in a different era right now as far as our team goes, as far as organization. it's Jim Harbaugh and we're trying to show that right now that's our brand of football that you just seen that Friday night out there in Brazil and that's just what we're trying to drive throughout the rest of the season not only just for this season but for years to come and you know to be the best you got to beat the best and at one point it was a cheese but we also got them dudes in green this season too so we're looking forward to it we're looking forward to all the comp we want all of it yeah I really enjoyed what you guys did Friday Obviously, Justin Herbert doing what he needs to do and putting the league on notice and defensively.
46:23Y 'all young bulls out there flying around, playing with tenacity, being physical, coming to the party as a group. So looking forward to the next game. What do you think you guys need to do to continue to make sure you solidify yourselves as true contenders, not just in the division, but I know it's only week two, but to compete for Lombardi trophy. because based on what we saw the other night, you got the quarterback to do so. I mean, I tweeted out right after the game was Respect 10. That's something that we, as a team, we hold that real high because, I mean, you only as good as your quarterback.
47:01And then as a quarterback, you feel me? Like, when we got a guy and a leader in him, we know how far we can take this thing. And we believe in not only him, but as far as our coaches and the staff and what we built here, we just ready to, you know, to prove it, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, we looking forward. It was week by week. You know, 1-0, that's the goal every week is to be 1-0, get to 2-0, and see how far we can take this thing. You know, we can't take any game for granted. All smoke, like I said, is welcome. And you called us young bulls, so that 23 thing out the window. I hope you know that.
47:33You called us young. You was 23 a second ago. Now we young bulls. I'm going to say you called me OG, so I'm going to pay the respect back and I'm going to call you young bull. I'm a young boo. I'm a young boo. I just want you to know you can go ahead. It's nice and shiny, though.
47:51Shannon Sharpe:Hen, what's the biggest difference? You played for a lot of coaches growing up in Pop Warner, in high school, in college, and now you have Jim Harbaugh. What did you hear about him? Did you ask anybody that had ever played for him, played under him at the University of Michigan, at Stanford, at the Niners? Did you know anybody that played for him? and what type of coach, what are you getting? Is he everything that you thought? I mean, I would definitely say he everything that I thought he would be. Before he got to us, I definitely heard a lot about Coach Harbaugh. I mean, the dude's personality, it goes through any room.
48:31You feel me? He walks in a lot of rooms that he ain't never been in. You know, that type of name he got. And that's because of the personality and how outstanding and upstanding he is as a guy. and I heard a lot of stories about him just about him coming to LA. You know, I'm from LA, from the city, and not a lot of coaches do the on-ground recruiting out here in this city. But I heard a lot, and not only do you hear a lot, but I've seen a lot of pictures of just hardball, you know, being on foot out here and going to recruit guys and just being as relatable as he can be. So you feel me? And he's that, man.
49:06He's just that genuine type of guy. He's the guy you want to fight for, a guy that will fight with you, though. You know, it's not about fighting for him, but he'll fight with you. And who would follow a leader like that?
49:16Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. Your linebackers coach, Navarro Bowman. Both played next to him and Patrick Willis for the longest time. They were the best duo in football. They were some thumpers. All right. Hey, Will coming downhill. But I think Navarro Bowman was very underrated because he was playing to a guy that was perennial all pro. That was Ward number 52 and his idol was Ray Lewis. And he was as fast, he was as physical, and he could do it all. But Navarro Bowman, if you watched the 49ers, if you studied the 49ers before he got injured, Bo was that dude. Hey, you see, I got to take the Oakleys off. You feel me?
49:58You talking about my coach. I got to take the Oakleys off. I just got them joints today. Shout out Oakley for that. but I mean you're talking about a guy with not only just the the resume but he still he still could go ball today I mean I feel this to his face you feel me I feel me I'll be trying to keep my guy you know just at coach level but he'll still try to get out there and show me something about hitting something I'll be like come on dude it's my turn now you feel me but I look at his tape, man. I study who he is. I study who he is. You feel me? I don't want to say who he was because he is that guy.
50:35He is 100 % still that guy. And I feel like not only was he next to a Hall of Famer, but him himself and what he did on that field, he should also be amongst them ranks too one day. Because, I mean, he had them all pros. He had the injury, the bounce back from the injury. You know what I'm saying? It's the stuff that's unnatural. That's not really normal. and it's like, you know, you got that type of resume and then you become a coach. I look at what he do. I look at what he say. Then I can go turn on the film and be like, nah, you about that. And I mean. Oh, yeah, he really was. He was about that.
51:10He was about that. He really about that. Was y 'all ever on the field at the same time?
51:13Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no. I'm way, I'm way, I'm way. Hold on. I was with him. I ran Levaro a few times. You did what? Rainy Mova, quarter slant, quarter slant, quarter little mid dig, and instead of cutting up, I just ran back into him, asking about it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to ask him about it. I'm going to ask him about it. I was hell to deal with, what? I was hell to deal with, what? I heard you shied away from contact, though. Who? You. I was 6 '4", 230. What am I shying away from? Oh, no. I mean, I remember, see, I be watching y 'all, man. man, y 'all got a lot of influence on us.
51:57I mean, y 'all are OGs. I heard you talk about not being a contact receiver. I've heard you verbatim say that that wasn't in your game. You can't be telling me. I'll get receipts up here, bro. You have to listen to me close to me. I said I don't like contact in game because I get my uniform out the cleaners on game day. Now, I welcome contact if that's what you want to do. So have you see foot on dead homies? I'm with whatever on Sundays. You feel me? On dead homies? On dead homies. Oh, not on my dead homies, though. Oh, not on yours. On mine. Yeah, you can't put them on my dead homies because I don't think you hit both.
52:36I don't think you did that. And if you put them on my dead homies, I know they're rolling right now, so you can't do that with mine. Do them with your homies, though. Hey, listen. I'm going to give you better perspective. I'm going to give you better perspective and better context in 225. Okay. I was playing in today's game. And there was a chance, let's say, you was playing against me. Me, me, right? Me. Yeah, you're playing against me. I'm locked in. I'm game on the ground. Let's go. You're locked in? Yeah, let's go. Before the game starts, I'm probably going to talk to you at your game. In the game, I'm probably going to run you over at some point.
53:15Because you're too little. You're too little for me, for my type, for my kind. Like, I respect you. And what you do, listen, I've been watching since you're a little kid.
53:25Shannon Sharpe:You didn't even know that. Ocho, you know he started out as a wide receiver. He switched to the linebacker. Hey, I was too dark for that room over there. I was too much for him over there. I ain't going to lie. Coach looked at me and said, you're a little too physical to be doing what you're doing to these dudes. You probably should be on the dark side. And I said, you know what? If I was anything like Chad, I'd say no. I'm going to go ahead and do that. I'm going to go ahead. And flip the switch on y 'all. Here I stand. Here I stand. So let me ask you a question. Who did you model coming up? Obviously, you started as a wide receiver.
54:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. So when you were the wide receiver, who did you model your game after? And then once you switched to the defensive side and you became a linebacker, what are some of the linebackers that you're like, okay, I like his game. Let me see if I can add some of that to mine. So this is how my whole life, a whole lot of life, you feel me, happened in my little 25. But I was a QB all the way up until I got to college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was QB from five years old to 17. What happened to you went to? I went to Crenshaw. How you just told me to watch me? Crenshaw High School. Come on, man. Listen, listen, you gotta understand.
54:31Hold on, you gotta understand. I was over there by Dorsey off of this third building. So, you feel me? Oh, man. I mean... I know, I know. It's all good. It's all good. Come on. I was on the other side. The disrespect. I know about you. I know about you. I was watching you. I didn't know you played quarterback, though. The disrespect, man. All I'm going to say is, look, I was a QB. Right, right, right. I got my shot at Nevada, University of Nevada. They turned me into an athlete. You feel me? I didn't get an offer at a position. They offered me as an athlete. You know, look that up. That don't happen often.
55:05Okay. They put me in the receiver room. Like I said, at that point, just to ask you a question, I look at a lot of guys like yourself. You feel me? Just had to see how to run routes. You mean properly. I was throwing the routes, but, you know, not really running routes. So I looked at you. Shout out OBJ. Shout out Matt Tron. Shout out some guys who just I feel like at the end of the day, they come down with the ball. So went from that and got into my defensive side of mine. And the first dude I really, like, looked into was probably Ed Reed, man. Just a physical dude. Because I didn't go straight linebacker.
55:38I was a safety at first.
55:39Shannon Sharpe:Okay, yeah, Ed, take the ball away. Yeah, yeah. If I'm going to look at anybody, I'm going to look at who I deem. Yeah, for sure. And I used to watch the Ravens a lot. Shay, so shout out to you. I used to watch the Ravens a lot. I used to. Appreciate that. I see y 'all hard knocks acting a fool. You ain't changed. You ain't changed. But I used to watch the Ravens a lot. So, Ed Reed, and then obviously you look right below. You got Ray Lewis, man. You got one of the greats. And then you just go from there. Once you get into that mindset, you can kind of just go from there. And then, like, you feel me?
56:09I told him this before, but shout out Navarro Bowman, man. You look at that tandem that he was a part of. So I was able to watch a lot of grades and then messed around and got next to one, man. And it's number of respect. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to make my mark. It's about legacy.
56:27Shannon Sharpe:But let me ask you, what made you decide to choose zero of all the numbers you could have made? What's special about zero? You see what I just said about that legacy right there. Yeah, you start your own. I'm saying that legacy, man. I mean, I got to leave. No wrong with that, bro. It just so happened that zero was available for the first time in the NFL. I didn't have one as an option. My draft class mate was Quentin Johnson. He was our first rounder. He was number one in college. Obviously, the one go to him. That was my most recent number. It was one, and 11 was taken. So I looked at zero as an opportunity to make my mark and do something and, you know, be remembered.
57:07There's a lot of zeros and only one right now as a charger. So I just had to do what I can.
57:13Shannon Sharpe:You do realize when you get a single digit number, now you got to be that boy dog. Oh yeah. Yeah. You understand that. Hey, Hey, I'm just saying, Hey, I'm, I understand that, but as always, I bet on myself and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a boastful dude by any means. And even now, just talking to y 'all, I know where I'm at right now in my process. And I know that I'm just trying to try to continue to grow. So I look at that zero as anything is, is a blank state. I'm blank slate every game, every week. And what I do to build on that is what I'm going to leave behind when I leave that number one day.
57:48And that's what I just, you know, that's how I move. That's my mindset is, like you said, be a dog. You know, I got to make that move every day. And I got coaches, got players, teammates, staff members pushing me every day. Yeah. Hey, listen, you've gotten through training camp. You've gotten through preseason. Now we've gotten through week one. How's the body feel? How's everything holding up? How do you feel going into week two? I mean, one thing we know about football, y 'all, is are you ever 100 %? No. Not after you take your ass to training camp. I'm trying to tell you, you're never 100%, but it's about what you can do with that percentage that you are.
58:24And so for me, my body is where it is, and it's good. You know, I'm dealing with my little bumps and bruises. Training camp is long. A hardball training camp is long as hell. Yes. So for both of them, and ours started early than everybody else's. We had that fourth preseason game. not Hall of Fame game. So it's been a long one for us, but I got the training staff that's been taking care of me. Shout out them. And we got a long season ahead of us, and I'm just maintaining. You know, I got to make sure I maintain and keep where I'm at right now. You went to Crenshaw High.
58:56Shannon Sharpe:Are there any other athletes or famous people that went to high school with you? With me? Yes. Nah, nah, nah, nah. It wasn't any that was with me. You didn't have nobody from your team that made it to the league? Nah, none in my class, none are in the league right now. I think Daniel Grisiak was a defensive end that was right under me. He was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers most recently. He's a free agent right now. But in the past, I couldn't even tell you. It's been me. I think since like DeAnthony Thomas – or no, no, J.N.A. Harris was more of the most recent one was about like some years ago.
59:36Shannon Sharpe:Because y 'all haven't – I mean, that high school Crenshaw has put a lot of guys into the league. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Crenshaw and Dorsey. Yeah. Yeah. Crenshaw. Hey, man, stop mentioning them with me on the line. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad, Tween. I respect them for L.A. I do. My bad, Tween. Hey, Shannon, I don't think you understand. This is a real rivalry, man. I mean, I used to leave them games with blood on my jersey that wasn't from football. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So he keep playing on me right now. My bad. My bad. My bad. So I'm trying to get him to stall him out.
1:00:11Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay. But check this out. Let me ask you this. Your father is Eugene Big U Henley. Yes, sir. Did he make a conscious effort or was it you to make sure you stay away from that? Because you mentioned Crenshaw. And we've heard all the stories. I mean, maybe it's not as heavily involved as it once was, but it used to be a lot of gang affiliation, a lot of gang violence. Did you do that or did he make a concerted effort? Say, son, this is not the life for you. You're going to go do something positive. One thing that I grew up understanding was that what my family is and who we are to this city is going to always be with me.
1:00:51And my dad made it clear that I got a choice every day to make to be above all of that, you know. And so my dad made it very clear. That's not what he wanted for me in my life. he made it very very clear that I had a better chance of making it to where I needed to go because I had his support and I got two older brothers Jabari Henley Michael Henley they're my older brothers and they live a different life than me you see me the route right but people would assume I would have taken they live right and they and they made those choices and that was because of the absence of my father at the time you feel me he wasn't there for for them as much he was for me.
1:01:29I got my dad fresh out about four years old. And so he told me like straight up, you ain't got no option, bro. I'm here. And we're going to make sure we get this done and done the right way. And obviously, you get to an age where you do have to make the decisions, you know, because he's not holding my hand. So that's why I say it was a collaborative effort. And then shout out my mom, Stacey Henley, because she was right there and holding down the house. That was I mean, one woman that taught me strength. She showed me a lot about what strength is then, and especially now. So shout out my mom, like I said, Stacey Henley.
1:02:08And shout out my pops for where I am now.
1:02:11Shannon Sharpe:I like that. I like that you made a positive decision. How much do you go back? Because there are a lot of kids that maybe don't think they have a choice. The only choice that they can make is that life. But you're living proof. Like, I got two older brothers, my dad. But I made a decision that that life wasn't for me. I believe that I had something better in store, that my life, God had something bigger planned for me. Yeah. He had something bigger planned for you, but you just have to make the right decision. That's 100%. And you said, how do I go back? I'll put it in frame of mind for you right now.
1:02:46We got back from Brazil at 10 a.m. in the morning. Yeah. My brother called me and said, it's a Pop Warner game in Compton right now. I'm fresh off the plane. I'm going to go see them kids. It's just what it is. I was in training camp, OTAs. I did a football camp for them, and I couldn't really go see them or be involved. And you feel me? You can't. I got a real job. You got a real job. Yeah, you got a real night to five. I can't go all the time or, you know, just any time. This was an opportunity. Fresh off the plane. straight from a 14-hour flight, got in the Uber, dropped myself off at the facility and went to go see the kids.
1:03:27Oh, true. And that was, yeah, that was just this, what, Saturday. So I was able to go do that. And that's just, you feel me? When I can, I will. And that's just, you know, showing love to the kids. Not only is it just trying to be a role model, but like showing them it's an option. I didn't really see this close of an athlete. They don't even look at me the same no more. They look at me like I'm just Deion, you know? like Daniel Hilly you know the NFL thing kind of wearing off but I want them to understand that this isn't normal but also I want them to understand that it's a team yeah that's dope that's dope
1:04:02Shannon Sharpe:you guys face the Raiders on week two Monday Night Football you already looking at tape they got a win they went on the road to New England got a big win Geno threw over 300 yards Brock Biles we don't know his status that would be somebody possibly you could be matched up with. We don't know he did injure his knee, didn't return to the game, but I'm sure Coach Harbaugh is going to tell you guys and Mo going to say, look, we're going to practice and prepare as if he's playing. And if he doesn't play, we'll make an adjustment. But we're not going to get caught with, you know, he ain't playing and all of a sudden he show up and we don't have the proper technique and the plan in place for him.
1:04:45Now you definitely understand. You know how I go. You know how to go. We locked in. Today we straight. We wipe 1-0. Now we're trying to get that 2-0 mindset going in. And obviously, that's always and every day we move and try to get forward. You feel me? So we definitely on to the next team. We got one heck of a coaching staff over there in P.I. We know what he about. Shout out to my defense coordinator, Jesse Minter. Today he was just talking about it. This is a team that are exactly where we were last year. new coach, not only a new coach, but a proven coach that knows how to win. And then with the staff that they feel that they are being able to curate and rejuvenate.
1:05:26So we see the competition and we see the tasks at hand. And then we know what we're going over to do. It's Raiders. It's a natural rivalry going on. It is. You know, Harbaugh and Carroll.
1:05:41Shannon Sharpe:This go back to college. This go back to Stanford and USC. USC. What's your deal? What's your deal? I got my coach back. I got my coach back. That's all I'm saying. I got my coach back. Deion, thanks for coming on with us tonight, man. Thanks for giving us a few moments of your time. We really, really appreciate it. Keep up the great work, not only on the field, but in the community as well. Tell the family I said hello. And you know what? Y 'all win that division. Come back on and tell us about it. You know, that's where we're going. We're chasing that. My sister told me to tell you she love you.
1:06:13And then, Chad, the Madden Raiders, Tell me what you need I just want my power I just want my strength I just want you to watch me You know what I'm saying I've been watching you since Chris I know you Nothing given man I ain't got no problem with earning mine I just finally get the status to you You know what I'm saying I got to say One question I don't mean to be greedy but my grandma always told me a closed mouth don't get fed. But if I do make my way to LA, if I can get just one, one ticket. Hey man, what you need? What you need? It's just one. I travel, I travel a little bit. I got a ticket.
1:07:00I got a jersey. Both of y 'all. Hey man, y 'all my OG's number. Whoa, whoa. We ain't talking about him. We ain't talking about him. We talking about me.
1:07:07Shannon Sharpe:We talking about him. He leave me behind, man. He don't take me nowhere. He said I done got too old. I can't keep up. It's lying. Yeah, yeah, I travel with me and my baby Come on man, I got you It's nothing Y 'all trying to come to the sideline We get the passes I want to stay on the sideline The whole game I only just became captain Okay It's only my first year out here It's all about Ocho, man Damn You're trying to get the man A captainship revoked You know what I'm saying Harbaugh know me. He know me. We go way back. Way back. I did play. I was in the league when Harbaugh played. So I did play with him.
1:07:55Shannon Sharpe:I played in two. Yeah, actually, he was my quarterback one year at the Pro Bowl when he was at Indy. Damn, you old. Yeah, I am. I am. Damn. You can be coaching somebody. Oh, no. I ain't got no patience to do that now. Mm-mm. Hey, I see how you talk about these players, man. You probably right. No. I ain't going to even hold you on that one. When you're right, you ain't wrong. Respect my dog, Tim, man. Respect Tim, man. Oh, he balled out? Yeah. But you know, when you're that level of talent, you know you get judged by postseason. Much differently. Hey, he ain't got much to say to y 'all, so I say it for him, and that's going to be just watch what he does.
1:08:43We do, we believe in that man. Best believe, cause you know, hey, now you.
1:08:49Shannon Sharpe:What's going on? Hey, tell Quinn Johnson. You already know, you already know what this is. Come on now. Come on. Hey, there you go. Come on now. There you go, you see how you treat our guests? Come on. You see how you treat our guests? What are you turning this into? What are you turning this into? You trying to bait me, you trying to rage bait me. I ain't a second at the bottom of my head. Don't do it, don't do it. Hen, for life. Respect to every opponent. The country. Respect to every opponent. Bronco country. Raise up now. Come on. Hey, see, that's why I told you just get me tickets. See what I mean?
1:09:28Hey, hey, here. For life.
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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Monday Night Football featuring Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears vs. JJ McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings, panic in New York after Russell Wilson struggled in the Giants opener, and much more from Week 1 of the NFL Season. Later, Unc & Ocho are joined by Los Angeles Chargers LB Daiyan Henley.
3:51 - Vikings beat Bears
18:55 - Giants sticking with Russ
35:25 - Daiyan Henley Joins the show
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