Nightcap Hour 1: Unc, Ocho, & Iso Joe react to Shedeur expecting to start on Friday for Browns preseason game!

21:35Shannon Sharpe:Man, I remember when I was a rookie and I was like, Ocho, listen, boy, I took the preseason like it was the playoffs. Because as a young fella, you gotta prove yourself. You gotta prove yourself. Only thing you know is going out there, playing hard and showing that you belong.

21:57What's that? Wait, yeah, it's a party over there, huh?

22:03Shannon Sharpe:What's that, Tidy? man Thanos done got a haircut where he at he right here oh I thought that was Teddy

22:23oh get him get him Thanos

22:29you need to hush bro you would hey you got some killers over there boy

22:39Shannon Sharpe:i agree with you joe and i was talking to tell an old show this i said look look how this thing works yeah hamstring four string ain't gonna start yeah i told you listen i told you three he's fourth on the depth chart.

22:56Yeah.

22:57Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. Because what I've been, I mean, I read and it says, man, Shador is outplaying Dylan Gabriel. And then some people keep saying, well, he ain't, I don't really know. I mean, I wish I could be there to actually see it for myself. But I've read more articles and it says, it reads that Shador is outplaying Dylan Gabriel. I agree. I've been seeing some of that. I've been seeing a lot of it too. Listen, Unc, you know, my eyes and the ears, my eyes and the ears, they in Miami. What do you mean? But when I want to know about what's going on and how - He got eyes in Miami, he got ears in Cleveland.

23:34Shannon Sharpe:Oh, okay. Okay. You hear me? So I just ask. I go straight to the source. I go to the source that's actually on the field. I go to the source that's not a media person, that's not an analyst, that can give it to me straight. Boy, what them boys out there looking like, man? okay boom that last time i said a name this time i'm not saying no names which is why i'm so confident and when we talk about shador and the cleveland browns that's all because i also mean no disrespect i told you we're gonna get this opportunity i didn't know i didn't know it would come this fast and in this way i've said it i said it before okay joe flacco i'm gonna be the starter and i say if things aren't going well for joe flacco because he plays well in spurts he'll get on a four or five game stretch and things somewhat fall apart or come off the hinges and then get his opportunities.

24:26Now you get your opportunity early. You see how God worked? Remember the Wally Pipp story? You know about the Wally Pipp story? Hey, Chad, if you don't know about the Wally Pipp story, look at the Wally Pipp story. I don't want nobody injured, but I just want the opportunities given to players that are drafted to a team to be fair and everybody giving it to a team. See how God worked?

24:48Shannon Sharpe:Wally Pipp wasn't injured. he just had a headache that day. It never got his jaw back. But you look, we'll find out. We'll see. Everybody, like I said, it's only three preseason games. So, I mean, the mere fact that he's playing, because normally when guys, they're not expecting guys to make a team. Ocho, they don't let, normally they don't let them guys play. Because you know why? Because I don't want you to get hurt and I got to keep you. Mm-hmm. Hey, but listen, he's prepared for this, huh? Joe, he's prepared for this moment. If there's anything in all you've been through, the doubters, the naysayers, the haters, your enemies, right there in your own backyard that drafted you.

25:37If what the owner said last week is not motivation to go out there and cut a plum full in an organized way. In an organized way. In a structured environment. It's still the game of football. Show that you can be a leader. Calm, quiet, collected, and reserved. Martha, I guarantee, watch what happened. Guarantee he marched the ass right down the guy. First drive. First drive Friday. First drive. I guarantee you that's how it play out. Marching right down the field. Listen, if he don't play well, I'm going to hold him accountable. If he don't play well, I'm going to hold him accountable.

26:19Shannon Sharpe:Just like we supposed to hold everybody accountable. I mean, you see how they fix it up, don't you, Joe? Huh? Oh, they talking about, oh, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, and Dylan Gabriel are slated to rest. Nah, they hurt. Two of the three hurt. Ain't no resting. They ain't got enough credential. They ain't got enough time under their belt to get rest in a preseason game. They ain't done enough. Only one got time to rest is Joe Flacco. Yeah, exactly. He got 18. Okay. I get that. But them other two? they fighting for jobs now yeah I'm excited I'm excited you know who play tomorrow who play tomorrow the Bengals that's who they play the Eagles we play the Eagles you know we play the Eagles you know we gonna put belt to ass first of all y 'all don't play in the preseason and guess what same thing hey we can't listen we not pulling that this year.

27:17Y 'all pull that every year. No, no, no. I'm saying they've been relaxing in the preseason, right? Not playing the preseason and then going to week one trying to go from zero to 100. So, Joe, Jamar, T, I need y 'all boys. Get one or two series. Get one or two series. Just get the juices flowing. Get acclimated to the speed of the game. I know y 'all are your veterans now. Come on now. We can't start. We can't start the season 0-2 or 0-3 out the gate again. We can't afford that. I give y 'all a quarter.

27:52Shannon Sharpe:I give them a quarter, Ocho. They ain't going to play. No, not a quarter. No. They ain't playing no quarter. They ain't playing no quarter the first preseason game, Joe. One series. One or two series. Damn, they ain't even giving us a half. Not to the third game. Well, it's only three games now, huh? Three, yeah. Yeah, so the third game. Hey, Joe, we played a half. Damn, the whole first half. Yeah. Or play the first series of third quarter. All right. See what y 'all got. See what y 'all working with. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I love the practice so much. I love the preseason so much because I wanted to get my body as acclimated to game speed as fast as possible.

28:36Joe, we could practice for 100 days straight. Full pads against yourself. And you get in the game, it's nothing like that. Nothing like that. is faster no matter what you do. There's no way to duplicate and replicate the speed of an actual NFL game. I don't care how much you practice. That's why I love them so much. I had Coach Lewis. I told this before. Joe, I would not come out the game in preseason. I made Coach Lewis call a timeout. You wanted to get your reps in. What? It's about one series. Man, we came out and the tools went in. I told the receiver to stay back and I went back in the game.

29:15Hey, Ocho.

29:16Shannon Sharpe:I understand what you're saying Rhythm and timing is everything brother Especially in basketball So I can understand in football Just route running being sharp on your plays I can understand that part Just like basketball If you don't play bro you lose that rhythm and timing It throw you off

29:34Shannon Sharpe:It definitely takes time And look I needed to get reps too That's how I was on show I understand okay we're going to go a series The first game maybe two series or the quarter, the third, the second game, and then we go into the half. We go at bare minimum, we go into the half, and normally we take the first series because sometimes we're like, okay, we're going to use the first series and the third quarter. We're going to go two minutes, so we're going to go hurry up just to get that in one time. But, yeah, I needed a preseason. I don't know how they do it. I take my hat off to these guys that come out there, and I guess right now the way they do it, Ocho, These are scripted practices against each other.

30:14Shannon Sharpe:I guess that's their preseason game. That ain't – that ain't – that ain't pre – no, no. It ain't the same. Not even close. But I'm anxious to see – I'm anxious to see what should – how should do it. Look, I don't care what anybody says. You're going to be nervous. I don't care how long you've been playing football. This is every – every – I got nervous every game I play. That's what I'm going to say. So it wasn't just the preseason. I mean, I got butterflies and I got goosebumps every game that I played. Same. And you've been playing. I've been playing tackle football since I was nine. And I still got nervous.

30:51Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Hey, Unc. When they – What's up? Hey, Joe. They play that field college. In the air tonight. Oh, man. When that thing play and you out there stretching. I can't feel it. Oh. Hey, Joe. Joe. right before kickoff and that welcome to the jungle start playing. I know what you're talking about. I'd be so nervous. I'd be so nervous and for one, and I made it even worse on myself, Joe, because I done talk trash all week. Oh, Joe, it's saying Burrow and the starters will play the first quarter. See? Boy, we going to Super Bowl, boy. Hey, boy, we going to Super Bowl, boy. Listen, I know Hey, Zach. Hey, Zach Taylor.

31:39Hey, Zach, I know you're going to see this. I love you. Hey, Joe Burrow. I love you. T. Higgins, Chase, the rest of the receivers, the O-line. Now, this, what they're doing today, what they're doing tomorrow, is going to be the reason why we're going to be in San Francisco. I said it here first. Okay. I said it here first. Now, watch how we come out week one in September. Who y 'all got week one? Rhythm. It don't even matter. Cleveland. I think we got Cleveland. No, I'm serious. I think – hey, Chet. Chet, who we got on week one? The Bengals. We got Cleveland, right?

32:15Shannon Sharpe:You know what, me, Ocho? I ain't like opening up with division opponents. Let me get my rhythm. Let me get some time. Let me get like two or three games in before I tell y 'all, look. That first game, Ocho, you ain't got your time and your foot. You ain't got your feet right yet. You know what I'm saying? Let me get like three or four games in. Let me see y 'all week four, week five. Okay. Okay. But y 'all do open up with Cleveland. See, I knew. I know I wanted you. At Cleveland. At Cleveland. I got the schedule in my head. I got the schedule in my head already. Hey, look, look. It ain't nothing like getting off to a good start, neither, boy.

32:46Shannon Sharpe:Winning that first game. Hey. Oh, yeah, yeah. You always want to get off to a good start, boy. It's important. Yeah, you got to win that first game. Ain't nothing like that. So the Browns are giving us your door one day of reps with the ones for the very first time at the joint practice. two days before a start. Let's see here for a second, Chad. So, all this time, he ain't got no work with the one. Not one. Not one snap. Not one rep.

33:18Shannon Sharpe:Won't he do it? The boy's gonna ball out, man. Hey, mysterious way. I'm telling you, you're gonna go out there, take them boy right down the field. I'm just trying to figure out, if you're really trying to do an evaluation. Ocho, how can I say I'm trying to evaluate you when I don't give you the same opportunities that I'm giving everybody else that I'm evaluating? Now, Ocho, I'm going to see if you can do this job. Now, the job requires a computer. But I ain't going to give you no computer, Ocho. But this is what I'm going to do. Oh, damn. Them other guys ain't come to work today. Okay, Ocho, you up.

33:55Shannon Sharpe:Here's the computer. Now, you ain't let me work the computer the whole damn time for two weeks.

34:03but you know the funny thing about that even though I wasn't able to work the computer for them two weeks when you put the computer in my hands I'm going to still be better than those that had it at their disposal before me anyway I'm going to be better than those that had the computer them other two weeks before me anyway and I'm going to put it on display under the lights at that

34:28Shannon Sharpe:well I just thought like if you're evaluating you evaluate under the same sort of circumstances. You can't say, well, you can't say, well, I'm going to see these two. If I got two pans and I'm going to see which one can stand at the temperature, I got to put them under the same temperature in order to do a proper evaluation. I can't let one guy get no reps with the ones, only get a few reps with the threes and fours. And now I get two days before. Okay. Okay. You up, son. Yeah. that's not an evaluation evaluation is you put things under the same set of circumstances over the same amount of time I like it that's how you get boiling or you get freezing temperatures because guess what at 212 it's going to boil it's either going to bust pipes or make diamonds baby

35:26I'm ready

35:28Shannon Sharpe:this is an opportunity this is what he waited for this is what a lot of people cheered for like man I sure hope he get an opportunity I sure hope he gets a chance to show what he can do and this is how the opportunity came about I don't feel bad I know you saw this chat I know y 'all saw it and Joe I'm not sure how often you on Twitter but you know I'm on there all day having fun making jokes but did you see the meme right the meme with I think it might have been the end of Kobe's career. Kobe might have hit 60 at a game and all the celebs were there. And they used that clip of Snoop Dogg and Kanye.

36:09Everybody was courtside and they was cheering. They was hype, right? I guess Kobe might have hit 60 or something.

36:14Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he hit 60. Yeah, I guess you talk. That's what it was? Yeah. And the caption was, this is black Twitter. Once you do or throw his first eight-yard slant, everybody go over the place. It is so funny. Even Prime had a comment on it. Eight yards left, his first completion. Yeah, first completion. His first completion, people are going to be, hey, that's the game winning the Super Bowl. Hey, dog, that was so funny. Hey, what y 'all think the Rays are going to be on this game? Friday, when they play. Oh, it's going to be crazy. Yeah, the Rays are going to be crazy. Because, you know, everybody tuning in to C-12.

36:50Yeah, for sure. For sure.

36:54Shannon Sharpe:Hell, this game might do a bigger rating than the real Browns game. What, you boo? No, no, real talk. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. When was the last time, the last time they had a player that was this talked about? You probably got to go back to Baker Mayfield. Yeah, probably Baker. And the same thing happened to Baker. Remember, you put Baker as the backup, and everybody was talking about Baker the backup. yeah damn I'm trying to hey this is how big it is Ocho Joe it's a national televised game yeah Cleveland in the preseason it stays set man it's the time yeah let me add a little plot twist for you Ocho Cleveland Carolina Panthers national televised game that's crazy ain't it?

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40:40Shannon Sharpe:Devontae Adams doubts Travis Hunter can play both offense and defense. He told the pivot, I don't even think it's possible to do, for real. Not at a high level. Now, once you get out there playing both sides, now you got to tackle Derrick Henry with that frame? Ocho, you and I have been saying this. We're not saying, but when you play, you got to play at the level at the number two pick. So you got to play at the number two pick at the wide receiver, the number two pick at the DB. It ain't just going out there, well, he on both sides of the ball. No, it don't work like that. Right. Doesn't. So you tackle Derrick.

41:16Shannon Sharpe:So let that sink in for a second. You tackle Derrick Henry. Now you got to go over there and you got to try to get over against Alexander, Marlon Humphrey, Nate Wiggins. Yeah. That's what you up against. Okay, you guard Kirtland Sutton. Now you get over against Pat Sertan. bro these grown bro you're not playing they're no longer playing with study hall in mind they're not playing for books they're not playing for tuition these are grown-ass men that have families kids in private school wife that want to go on vacation for 12 to 14 days I got mom I got my wife's parents it's a different game I get exactly what Devontae's saying I ain't saying he can't do it I'm saying can't do it at a high level that's all we're saying there's a reason why it used to be like that Chuck McNerrick was the last guy he was the middle linebacker in the center he was the last guy to play both ways there's a reason why they stopped it Ocho yeah there's a reason why there's a reason why pitching and hitting Shohei started pitching again the hitting suffered stopped pitching hitting went back up again it's not that complicated I know being the first but there's going to be an expectation level that the level is here for DB and for a wide receiver.

42:59Shannon Sharpe:And I'm telling you, they coming. Ocho, you know when guys get drafted high at a position, they are coming. Yeah. Mm. I think you're ready for it, though, Joe. Hey, Unk, I think you're ready for it, you know? So you think he's going to play at a pro bowl level on both positions? I don't know about that. No, maybe one position because he's going to be better at one than the other. I'm not sure which one that may be. I'm not sure. I mean, as of yet. And I understand also with Devontae Adams, with him not only playing at a high level, playing on both sides of the ball at a high level and making the risk of injury double.

43:41You know, and they just, for one, if you could sustain healthy against grown men, you know, having to feed their families, I think he can do it.

43:53Shannon Sharpe:I want to see it because I'm going to be playing I think people are going to be tuned in a lot more to Jacksonville games this year than in the previous but Jacksonville all eight games probably sold out this year because you know you do you got Collins you got Nico Collins now go get him against Stingley that's what you got that's what you up against now you got Ward Now you got to go guard those guys up and end it. Those three guys, Pierce and Mitchell and Pittman Jr. Josh Downs. Yeah, that's what you got. That's what you got. It's going to be like that every week, though. Every week. There's no – in college, you know, it's an off week.

44:40Absolutely. The level of talent and the competition you're playing. Boy, all 17, you finna see them boys.

44:47Shannon Sharpe:I think you got – every week. I think he's going to be better at receiver if you ask me I think playing that see I thought I thought his skills were better at DB because the way he can just track the ball his instincts Ocho how he can be like he a food quarterback like I'm thinking and then they throw it to the flat and he he got tremendous instincts now Now, right now, I think he's playing the receiver position with a lot of athleticism. Right. He's electric. The really good ones, yeah, the really good ones, you got to get technically sound. You get sloppy with routes, you start rounding these routes, and you start getting lazy.

45:33Shannon Sharpe:Man, they pick the A, they rob you, A. You like a tourist in a foreign country, they'll pick your pockets. You know what the funny thing about it is when he was at Colorado, he can get away with it you know oh yeah you're gonna have to be more technically savvy at the nfl level because everyone is just as fast some people will be faster than you everyone is just as quick some people may be quicker than you understanding what you got across from you what you can get away with what you can and that's going to take time so i think right now when he does win whether it's offensively and defensively it will be based on athleticism long and those probably across from him, oh shoot, it's Trav, maybe being scared.

46:17I'm not scared, but you know what I'm trying to say.

46:20Shannon Sharpe:Because I think Cohen says he's trying to get him into like 80 % of the snaps on offense. Okay. Well, you know, he was playing damn near 100 % of the snaps on offense and 98 % of the snaps on defense. That was in college. And I know he... But like I'm saying, that's a lot of reps. Because, you know, let's just say 130 plays in the NFL? Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot, boy. That's a lot of plays. I mean, I think the most plays I've ever played in an actual game, I think I played like 92 snaps on offense. That's the most I've played in an NFL game. That's a lot of plays. Remember how you felt the day after the morning after that game?

47:04Yeah. Imagine what Trav going to feel like the morning after that game playing both sides of the ball.

47:09Shannon Sharpe:now he 20 20 21 so he might not be now i'll check back with him when he 25 i'll check back with him when he's 26 27 right right right right because you know you're young hey you play on sunday i can play again on tuesday but as a man if you started getting older man i ain't start feeling good till friday

47:40Shannon Sharpe:man it's about it man and like these guys having these Thursday games on chart man I'm glad they had I played one I think I played uh Thanksgiving my rookie year right when I was 22. I'm glad man now can you imagine can you imagine Ocho you being 33 34 years of age and you play Sunday and you got to turn right around again and play Thursday? Hey, hold on. Okay, Ocho, y 'all play on a Sunday. Y 'all probably practice probably what, Monday? I mean, Tuesday? Nah, you go run. You're going to run and lift in. On Monday? Yeah, Monday, yeah. You go in to watch film, get you a lift in. Tuesday, you got Tuesday off.

48:22Then Wednesday is back to practice. When do you back at it?

48:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Okay. Now, in college, you're right, Joe. You play on Saturday, you out there to pass on Monday. They're going to work you in college, boy. I don't care what nobody say. What? But you 18, 19. That ain't nothing. That's the hardest I ever worked in life. I don't, I don't, I'll be honest with Jocho. I don't remember, it's a long time ago, damn near 40 years, but I don't remember being sore in college. You remember being sore in college? I remember after NFL games I was never really sore even though I played reckless I wasn't physical but the only thing sore on me at the NFL games was my ankles I'm not even trying to be funny even when I was younger I would have to turn to the side of the bed and put my feet on the floor and warm my ankles up just because Because the way I would just start and stop.

49:27I'd say I'd start and stop. And Joe, I could run full speed, Joe, and stop on a dime.

49:32Shannon Sharpe:Your feet be hurting the next day. And Joe, that next morning, oh, man. I'm surprised. I'm surprised I'm still able to hold up this long, Joe, at 57. Like, I don't have no issues. Damn. Yeah, you're definitely blessed. You're definitely blessed. Not to have no hip, no knee. I mean, you know, seeing all those guys, you know, going back to the hall this past weekend, Ocho, and seeing all them guys that gotten hip replaced, the knee replaced, the shoulder replaced, the ankle replaced. Hell, I didn't even know you could replace ankles. That's why you got to take care of yourself, man. Damn. I try to.

50:13Shannon Sharpe:Well, ain't no taking care of the hips now. They ain't going to never give me no more problems. the doctor say as long as you don't run they'll last you the rest of your life I said you ain't got to worry about that doc I said even if somebody get after me I ain't going to be able to get away from it I ain't going to be able to get away from it doc you got me but I got I mean you got to listen to the interview because I know there are a lot of people saying man Devontae hate Devontae hate they got to hear it in its entirety to understand the context Yes, yes. He's saying he can't do it. I'm saying do it at a high level.

50:48Yeah.

50:50Shannon Sharpe:Because, you know, like I said, I saw time do it a couple of times. Roy Green was the person, the first person that I saw do it and did it at a high level. And then they said, nah, you're just too valuable at the wide receiver. We're just going to leave you over here. Because if I'm not mistaken, I think he started off with like a DB.

51:07Shannon Sharpe:And, you know, we saw time do it. But, you know, I think Troy played for the Patriots. Troy Brown. Troy Brown. You know, he'd do it. But he, I mean, he'd knock a play. He wasn't. Yeah. He was mainly in the slot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wasn't as good a DB as he was a receiver because I think he went to the Pro Bowl a year or two at the wide receiver position. but the expectation for Trav is like he's one of the favorites to not only win defensive rookie of the year but the offensive rookie of the year so that just goes to show you that the level that they're expecting him to play at hey hey what happened boy what Joe what happened what if Trav do win both awards offensive rookie of the year and defensive rookie of the year everybody gonna be shocked it'd be the greatest it'll be the greatest look there have only been a handful of guys.

52:05Shannon Sharpe:Jim Brown won MVP as a rookie. Right. I think Fred Lynn, I think he won MVP in baseball as a rookie. I think Wes Unsel won MVP as a rookie. To win offensive and defensive player of the year, that'll be the biggest thing. That'll be the first. He'll be the first to do that. I would put it up there with what Magic did. Magic led a team to the NBA Finals and won Finals MVP. I'd have to put it up there with that. Think about it. You the best player on offense and the best player on defense as a rookie? Right, right. Man, that's possible, though. I think it's possible. Oh, my goodness. Candace Parker did it.

52:45Shannon Sharpe:And Will. Yeah, Will. Okay. Will did it also. But Will averaged like 100 points. I mean, also, we talk about football now. We talk about a lot of sports. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's different. Yeah, I mean, there's no quilla because we don't have anything to base it on, Ocho. We've never seen anybody play the kind of snaps or kind of reps that he wants to play. So it's hard for us to base it. Only, like I said, I saw Ty. I was in the league when Ty was doing it in Dallas in 95. Once he got hurt and he was catching pass, and we know what he was on the defensive side of football. I saw Troy Bryant.

53:22Shannon Sharpe:I think I had already retired by the time Troy was doing it. But we've never seen a player play at this. I mean, like I said, if you go back to the 50s and 40s, 50s, and when they was doing it, that's what I'm talking about in modern football. Okay, let's go since the merger. Let's do it like that. Or the Super Bowl era, Ocho, because, you know, man, we used to play both ways, bro, but y 'all had 12 players. You had no choice but to play both ways.

53:51But that being said, yeah, I mean, a high level, that's the expectation.

53:56Shannon Sharpe:It's like you, Ocho. They expect Ocho to play at a high level. Yeah. Okay, whoever the DB is, they expect him to play at a high level. Now you're the same person. They still expect that high level of play, whatever side of the ball that you're on at that given time. So I'm definitely going to be watching. I'm going to be rooting for him. I'm going to give him a couple of picks. I'm going to give him a couple of touchdowns. It ain't often you see a guy get a pick at a touchdown now. Yeah, he's going to be special, man. I'm looking forward to that too. I'm looking forward to the season, man. This weekend is going to be fun from here on out.

54:31Shannon Sharpe:So it's going to be interesting. Y 'all season might not be going well if y 'all don't get Michael Parsons' side. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Chill. Come on now. Come on now. You heard what Jerry said today? What he said? You didn't see that one? I didn't see it. Oh, you missed it. He just compared a deal when he bought the Cowboys. All it was, it was based on a handshake. A handshake? Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And eye contact. All right, boy. Hey, boy, Jerry is 20-25. man there's a reason why we have written contracts because you know why Ocho that Jerry's absolutely right a contract before we had written contracts was a meeting of the minds right I shake your head Ocho you will give me a 20 bushel of grain okay I will give you some cattle or I'm gonna give I will give I will give you something of equal value we have a handshake that was a meeting of the minds but guess what happened along the way somebody got what they were supposed to get and in return didn't return what they were supposed to give right so they say you know what we gotta stop this here so you know and judge judy say hey that's 60 oh this right here that that's 60.

55:42Shannon Sharpe:if you don't hear that's what i need to know because we know people will say one thing and do something else. Now, an oral contract isn't, I mean, some states, that's enforceable. But Jerry, no. That man was talking about being leadership. He's going to get him signed, man. But you know, Ocho, if a guy has an agent, you're not supposed to do a deal with a player. You're not supposed to talk to the player, especially concerning anything having to do contract and numbers. because the first thing the owner's going to do is hey let's be buddy buddy and they're going to try to undermine you they definitely not going to give you what your value is what your worth is they're not absolutely not they're trying to save money you know and the one thing you have to understand joe and chad this is this is for y 'all as well is when you are a billionaire in order to get to that point you have to be very shrewd when it comes to business you got to step on a lot of people joe along the way to get to that kind of wealth yeah i don't think people understand that no you got to be cut you got to be ruthless they're not on our they're not on our side and never have been especially if you build it now if somebody leave it to you oh your dad was was worth 15 billion dollars and he leaves you and chauncey that's one thing but for him to climb to that ladder and to get that money oh yeah he stepped on a lot of people stepped on step over step around all that yeah and you know you know what i wish i you know what i wish what you wish this is no disrespect chat this is this is for y 'all too joe and for people that have uh attained and amassed an extreme amount of wealth there's always a way they got there there's always a loophole that give you one huge jump to get to a certain degree of it and it continue to build it off like you did it all the right way.

57:44I'm going to leave it at that. I don't want to get too far into it. I don't want to get too far into it. But y 'all can catch what you catch. If you can't catch it, get your hands right.

57:59Shannon Sharpe:All right. We got a special guest joining us. He's logging in as we speak.

58:11Shannon Sharpe:you what's up baby one of the members of the hot boy it's 400 degrees here he is Louisiana on Juvie what it do Juvie oh man cool it man I'm in the studio right now doing some shit cooking it up working on my album yeah trying to finish up oh you know you got something you know what we ain't gonna talk about anything. Go ahead and tell us about what you got coming out. My album is called The Boiling Point, bro. Shit is crazy. It's some grown man music. I recognize it's a lane for me right now because everybody's doing it, doing their thing. I feel like it's a gap right there for us. I'm trying to fill that gap.

58:55Oh, see, Juby, you thinking like I'm thinking. You thinking like I'm thinking. There's a gap, there's a lane that you're standing right there. that nobody's in right now. So, since we on the same page, I really think I should be on the outside.

59:09Shannon Sharpe:I put pylons up so he can't get in that lane, Juve. That's why I put pylons up, because I know where he was going. Listen, I can shoot a quick 16 to you right now real quick in case you want to use me for, you know, I don't know. You got bars, nigga? I got bars. No, candles. 16 candles. The only thing he going to shoot, blow. Hey.

59:34I'm from Miami. What you want to do? Okay, that's enough. That's enough. That's enough. That's too much action. That's too much. M-I-E, huh? Hey. The cash money, 30th anniversary. I might have to hook some shit up for you. Let me know. Let me know. Listen, I could always use another job, right? God damn, you got all the jobs. Shit.

59:56Shannon Sharpe:Dude, 30 years? Yeah, man. 30 years. 30 years, bro. Damn. Does it seem that long to you? Say that again? Does it seem that long to you? No, it really seems long when somebody tell it to me. You know what I'm saying? Like you in the NFL when somebody bring up the NFL and stuff like that, you're playing, it feels like, damn, damn, it's been that long. Damn. I try not to harp on it, but when people say it, I look back, I be like, damn, I can't believe this shit. 30 years. I'm like James Brown right now.

1:00:33Shannon Sharpe:Joe, we don't know if this is true, but what's being reported is that Turk left. He exited early with tensions with BG. Is there anything you can shed light on? Is that true or the tour is over or what's going on? Well, it came from the higher up. So I really don't know what the paperwork said. They sent him some paperwork I heard. So I don't really know what the reason was. So they got to kind of like let us know. They got us in the blind on what really happened. I don't know if that was their reaction because of what he was saying on the internet or something like that. But I truthfully don't know what the real reason was.

1:01:15He said it was money. He said it was money, right? So maybe it was that. I really don't know, bro. Niggas ain't taking no short of bag. Once you commit to having a bag a certain way, you don't expect them to come back and change the deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really don't know, bro, because I didn't see his paperwork, but I really don't know.

1:01:35Shannon Sharpe:Man, my connection. Go ahead, Joe. Oh, man. Hey, Juvie, man, check this out. Back in 98, 98, Hot Boys came to Little Rock, Arkansas, man. Bar and Coliseum. That was my first concert ever, bro. Y 'all came and tore that thing down. You hear me? Little Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Little Rock, Y 'all ain't get to finish, though, because them boys won't stop. Hey, man. Every time we was going there, man, to Little Rock, man, it was like that. It's kind of like Oakland. That's like a third-world country, bro. You ride up these highways, and then you get there. It's like, damn, bro. And they different out there, dog.

1:02:24They thugging.

1:02:25Shannon Sharpe:They thugging. Hey, can y 'all just let us one time finish the concert? Let us get out. We tried to get y 'all two hours, but damn. Tell you. Man. Man, we was banned from Oakland like that for like 10 years, man. He wouldn't let us get down to Oakland because of that. Damn. Yeah. Hey, Jewel, when it comes to making an album, right? You know, I think as fans of hip hop in general, we don't know the ins and outs and how things work, but I think it's just interesting, and I'm sure the chat will probably know, how long does it actually take to finish an album? You know, we're used to just getting the finished product, but we don't know much about what goes into production and studio time and all that other good stuff.

1:03:04How long does it normally take an album? Man, everybody has their own different, you know, way of doing things. Like for me, my time, you know, it's when I got some free time. So with me, man, I can knock out three or four songs in the night. So because I'm engineering, I'm doing everything by myself. I really don't have nobody in the studio. And then I got full access to studio time all the time, so I'm not paying for it. So for me, man, it's however long I want it to be, but I can get an album done right. Like I would say, if I'm focused like a month's time, something like that. Hey, let me, in order to be a rapper,

1:03:42Shannon Sharpe:do you have to be a night owl? Do anybody, do anybody work normal business hours? Or does everybody else have to do? Yeah, I'm all day with it. I don't have, like, I really don't have a time. Whenever I feel it, I'm going. But a lot of them cats don't go in the studio like Wayne. Wayne being going in at 3 o 'clock in the morning. I'm like, how you do that? But, you know, I guess it's them going to the clubs, leaving out of the clubs, going straight to the studio, having to just keep that vibe that you have. Because a lot of us get our ideas while we out and about. Hey, look, when you're in the studio, what kind of vibe you got in there?

1:04:18Shannon Sharpe:You like to be Dolo? or you kind of, you know, you have some people in there just vibing. That's it right here. Look, look, look, look. I'm giving you a 360. Damn, you ain't got nothing on it now. It's just me, buddy. Well, I used to hang with DigiDesign when they first started Pro Tools in Nashville and stuff like that. So I've been touching this stuff since the beginning. So, yeah, I'm solo. You know how to work everything in there? I know how to work everything, put the studio together, wiring. I understand all of it, bro. You got to remember, I make lamps. I'm an electronic guy. So I make all kind of, I can build all kind of stuff.

1:04:57So wires, you know, wires and stuff like that. That's my thing.

1:05:00Shannon Sharpe:Well, maybe you can help Joe. Tell Joe his internet with me some trash. Come on, man. You can wire in here all the time today, Joe. It's okay. Hey, the devil working, baby. We fighting. We fighting over there. We fighting. I see you was glitching, bro. You all right, though? Yeah. What kind of service you got? I think we got a Come on, come on now Come on, chill, chill Ocho, they ain't that funny, bro Come on now Juve, when you made Back That Ass Up Did you have any idea That you was going to be making a song That will stand the test of time When that song comes on They hitting the floor I was just trying to get the women to shake some ass But I'm sure for me I was trying.

1:05:48I'm going to keep it real, bro. I figured if I said something to make the women shake their ass, I would get them because I came from that. I was making that kind of music from the start. So it was kind of like Back That Ass Up was easy for me to make. The other songs was kind of hard for me to make. But songs like that, booty shaking records, that's simple for me. I'm in there right now making a booty shaking record. Hey, when that beat drop comes around. Yeah, all day. All day, man. Manny Fresh a bad motherfucker, dog. He a bad motherfucker, bro. Bad. Dude different, bro. And when Manny Fresh make a beat, it's more like you competing with him because he trying to beat you out.

1:06:34He not trying to just make a beat to compliment you. He like, look, nigga, you better do your fucking thing because I'm about to shine on this bitch. And don't let him have a verse. Watch how many bricks he going to have on this verse. that bitch gonna break down. You hear him on back of that ass, right? Yeah, yeah.

1:06:49Shannon Sharpe:Who are you coming in? I said, damn, nigga, you got everything playing on your part, nigga. Hey, listen, so when you hear the beat, you kind of go into whatever thought process you have, or do you already go in with a preconceived or what you want to talk about? I listen to the beat. The beat, I follow the music, man. The music most of the time gives me ideas and directions to go. You feel me? but the fact that I don't write I just sit here and just think of my thoughts and put them down so I gotta be one of them cats that's why I gotta be hands on that's why I don't like engineers because engineers don't really understand when I want them to hit record and when I want them to stop they don't understand your instincts that's why I tell all the artists all the young cats man learn how to record yourself you're gonna hear you're gonna make your best songs when you learn how to record yourself that's dope that's live.

1:07:44Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you a question. What made you decide to get back in the studio? Is it like, man, I ain't really happy with Buss being out there today. It's just my time to get back in the studio. What made you decide to go back into the studio? Man, that tiny-ass performer sparked my fire, bro. Okay. You know, just letting people, when people realize that, nah, this nigga really can rap these songs. Fuck the music. This nigga can sing this shit. That shit sparked my fire. You know what I'm saying? That shit, like, got me back on the road, got me back, got me back going. It's always something, it's always that little something that gets you going.

1:08:20You know what I'm saying? And that shit, you're like, you know what, fuck it, I'm about to run. Fuck that, I'm about to take this shit and I'm running. And that's what that was for me. And I don't deny it. I always tell people like, man, shit, everybody needs something. Everybody needs something. Everybody needs somewhere to start. You know what I'm saying? You, for instance, bro, your fucking interview with Cat Williams, you took that shit in me. You know what I'm saying? Yep. And that's what that, that's the same it had the same effect that Tiny Desk did for me because not only that, a lot of artists had to go after me and now that standard is up there.

1:08:54Now they gotta like top me. Not saying that motherfuckers can't outperform me and shit, but it's a standard now and everybody who go on Tiny Desk now, they know like, man, we gotta fuck that, I gotta outdo Juvie.

1:09:05Shannon Sharpe:But you know what, Juvie? Going on the Tiny Desk, you have to perform a different way that you normally would and people got to see you in a different light they're like okay he really i mean yeah it i mean it wasn't the uh uh the the beat wasn't overpowering the music wasn't so loud it's distorted you can hear you could hear every single thing that you're saying like oh that's what he was saying i've been saying it wrong all the years for 25 years i've been saying it wrong i had a cheat code though bro you know i had john baptiste and trombone started with manny fresh and a 400 Degrees band. So I kind of had a cheat code.

1:09:42I bought all the guns. I bought everybody with me. Like, fuck that. I'm going to make this shit something big if I can.

1:09:48Shannon Sharpe:You know? Well, you definitely turned it out. That was a hell of a performance. Thank you, dog. Thank you. Yeah. Ben from Louisiana, you know a thing or two about food. See how you said it? You said it like us. Because we said Louisiana. Louisiana. We done lost so fucking much, man. Fuck, we need some wins, nigga. Yeah, ain't nobody trying to know Louisiana. Ain't nobody. Louisiana, nigga. Outside of your home state, where you've had some of the best cooking at? Man, you know, I lived in Atlanta for like seven years. So I had some good cooking in Atlanta, bro. Yeah, yeah. I would say Miami. I had some Cuban food that was fucking off the chain.

1:10:31Man, it varies, bro. but I would definitely give Atlanta their props, man, because they cover a lot of ground with food.

1:10:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, if they stop, charge you$700. Now, you're going to pay for it. You're going to pay for it. You're going to pay for it. And make you wait. There's two people in there. Oh, we got an hour wait time. It ain't but two people in here. What you mean they got to wait an hour? But you know the truth, man. I'm from the cooking capital. Us and all this boys, we don't really like. to eat too much food out of New Orleans. We like our shit. Man, y 'all be putting too much hot sauce in y 'all food. Nah, man, I'm putting too hot. Man, y 'all be... You probably talking the wrong people, man. You can't go to the restaurants.

1:11:15That good ain't no.

1:11:16Shannon Sharpe:It's not good. I can't taste nothing. You eating that fucking restaurant shit, man. I'm not shitting on the restaurants in the city, but it's some old ladies and shit like that. Some family members down here that's going to give you that real. You got to get that real, bro. matter of fact hey speaking of real juvie i got something for you i knew i know you like food you like restaurants obviously new isiana being one of the capitals when it comes to cooking and restaurants i think chicago is up there as well obviously new york but if next time you come to miami i need you to try two places for me i need you to try two places for me there's a place called i crave my young bull on i crave really good food breakfast lunch i'm not sure if they do have dinner but if they don't have dinner then you got to try another restaurant called Smith & Webster.

1:12:05One of my young bulls on Smith & Webster. Man superb. Superb. You need to add that to your... You know what I like in Miami? They got this little breakfast spot. Everybody go to... It's a small little spot. It's like a little family spot. They close at 2 o 'clock. I don't even remember the name of it. But they got fish and grits. MLK? MLK or Jackson's? I think that's an MLK. I think that's it. I be fucking the name up, man. Hold on. It's in the hood. It's in the hood. It's in the hood. It's in the fucking chain. Fish and grishes are clean. Huh? It's in the hood. It's in the hood. Yeah, that's probably getting me okay.

1:12:40Yeah, it's in the hood. Everybody fuck. They know me. I've been with that bitch so many times. Ocho, what's this? Soul food? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's soul food. I think it's right off 22nd by Drew. Drew Middle School.

1:12:55Shannon Sharpe:Drew, y 'all eating Nutria down there? You eat that little rodent? Fuck no. I don't eat that weird shit, bro. I don't fuck with none of that weird shit, bro. Man, hey, y 'all be eating gator. I don't eat pork. I don't eat pork. I don't eat pork. I don't eat pork. I don't eat pork. I don't eat pork. I don't eat gator. Y 'all eat everything. I don't eat no gator, none of that shit, bro. You don't eat no gator? I go out there with my people and try to catch one of them motherfuckers, but I ain't eating that shit. Nah, nah, me. I don't do none of the strange shit. Because you know, hey, you know y 'all be whipping it up to my old.

1:13:26Shannon Sharpe:It's good. Nah, man, my family cook all that, man. Chitlins, everything. I just don't eat it, bro. I never ate it. I can't do it. I'm out of the house once they start cooking. I'm gone. Yeah, see, and the sides, you know, they cook that potluck. They put everything in the pot. You're lucky it don't kill you. You got to get some stuffed bell peppers, man. Man, I'm surprised. The first time I ever had gator was in New Orleans, man. Yeah? But you got to cook it, and it got to be hot, because it's gamey and you can't eat it cold. I'm talking about you got to get it right out of the grease. I can't eat that shit, bro.

1:14:03I go to thinking about this motherfucker crawling through the swapping shit. I can't fuck with it. And ketchup. You depleted. They put ketchup all over everything. I can't do that either. I ain't no ketchup in it either.

1:14:19Shannon Sharpe:So, Juve, when the album is going to drop? We're looking at September, man, But that date can easily be moved because I'm so meticulous on how I want this album to sound. And I just feel like I need to do like one or two more songs right now. You know, that's what I'm in here doing right now. The tour. The tour. Hold on. The tour is still going on? Yeah, the tour is still going on. I think they moved some of the dates back, though. But I know I'm about to go on a promo run. So they got to figure this. They got to figure the logistics out of that. Okay. All right. I'm a show guy. Me. I'm one of them guys that my calendar stay full, man.

1:14:58I've been blessed to always be able to get booked. I do a lot of shows, bro. So I never been short in that department at all. I got you. While you finishing up that studio, while you finishing up that album, just let me know how I can sing you that verse. That verse? You don't have to use it, but if you want to put it in there, it just gives you something to work with. You got to do some loose, Skywalker shit, man. You got to get some booty shit, bro. You got to... You can't be spitting bars, bro. You got to get the ladies, bro. I got you. I get it. The ladies don't understand bars. Well, they do, but some of the majority of the women, they don't want to hear that.

1:15:41They want to get their dance on. Okay, we can do that too. We can do that. I used to be the DJ and the man on the mic back in the day at King of Diamonds. That was me. He can go. He can go. He can go. You putting something on that one, nigga. I done been in there a few times. I ain't never seen you back there. That was me. That was me on the mic. That was me. I was there when you came. Yeah, nigga. I ain't seen that. Was it Chad or Ocho? Which one was it? I was Chad back then. I was Chad. Hey, listen. You got to think I had, listen. Even when I had like 27 jobs back then. Damn, my nigga. Damn.

1:16:16Hey, Juve. I missed it, nigga. I missed it.

1:16:19Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Juvie, you got any features on this new album coming up, bro? Yeah, I got features, man. I got some features on here. Some cash supposed to be featured on here. They ain't showed up for me. Just give us one feature. Who you got on there that's going to be talking about something? Cash money. All right. Say that. Say that. Everybody. I know Wee Zell Baby got to be on that thing. Yeah, cash money. You heard me? we there baby hey Juvie congratulations on everything outstanding career good luck on the tour man we can't wait for this album to drop in September come hey the day before come back and tell us I got y 'all I'm gonna let y 'all hear something man you gotta check out some of this music before it come out appreciate that yes sir

1:17:16I can't wait to keep my version, right? Hey, Unk, I'm going to be famous, boy. I'm telling you. What's up? Who? You. No, I can rap. I just can't go off the top of the head. I'm not Lil Wayne. I'm not Jay-Z. But once I write things down and I visualize it and then I can execute it off paper, that's when I'm at my face. You're saying they send you a beat.

1:17:39Shannon Sharpe:You're going to go off. Yeah. All I got to do, give me 10 minutes, Joe. You know that notepad, Unk? the notepad I got filled up with all your quotes the past year. You give me 10 minutes, give me a beat, let me think of situations and variations that I've been through in life. I can put it down on paper and man, listen, when it's done right, the artistry of my pen is magnificent. You hear me? Like Joe, I really do that, Joe. All right. Joe, he can't eat right in cursive. I don't understand, man. Hey, Joe, you don't understand. Joe, I was a drama and theater major, Joe. Oh, you guys are drama. Huh?

1:18:23Shannon Sharpe:You just made a drama and theater major. Now, you just told us, you don't went to four jucoes, and you're going to tell me that you were a drama and theater major. Right. See, that was the easiest classes for me to get credit, to be able to play football. That's why I was, you know, you understand? You see where I'm going with that? No, drama and theater ain't easy. So what you, Shakespearean? Wait, hold on. for me, drama in theater is very easy. I can get into character quick. Right now, I can recite Shakespeare. We watching one. We looking at it. Okay, okay, okay. We don't. What's wrong with this dude?

1:19:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe. Give us some Shakespeare. Give us your best thespian. Right now? Yeah. So you do poetry and all that? What? Joe, I do spoken word at the Hard Rock down here on Tuesday nights. At the Hard Rock Casino. Yeah, go ahead. I'll let friends, Romans, countrymen lend me your ear. Go ahead. Give us something. Four score and 20 years ago. You know, give us something like that. Give us a Gettysburg address. Give us. You ready? Take your time. Take your time.

1:19:54Come on, don't do that. Let me focus. Let me focus. Okay, get focused on Joe, get focused. Hey, listen, Joe, I was a drama major. I was a theater major. Watch how I - Take your time. Take your time. love looks not with the eyes but with the mind therefore a winged cupid painted blind thank you

1:20:23Shannon Sharpe:hey boy you hello will boy you so best

1:20:32Shannon Sharpe:Hey, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. When they say you special, bro, you a special dude, bro. What's up with you? Hey, listen, man. Listen, hey, listen. When I was in high school, I was in a little cubicle in the back, man. But it's all good. Way in the back. Little classroom, little cubicle. Yeah, I know my baby saw that. I know you watching. that was for you. I wrote that. That came from here. So you said you had the hard rock on Tuesday night? Yeah, I do. Oh, Joe, I do spoken word. Yeah, man. You want me to give you another one right now off the top of the head? You want one? Go ahead. Give us one more.

1:21:15Why not? Go ahead. Yeah, do one more. Okay, snap with me. Snap with me then. Come on, Unc. Snap with me, Joe. Come on.

1:21:25Many nights rain falls, umbrella calls, dog walks, cat screams, nails across a chalkboard, oven, stove, refrigerator, silver, Wentworth. Not many days do they have like this. Today's Wednesday, they call it hum. why would it be a day? Why couldn't it be night?

1:22:00Shannon Sharpe:That boy think he'll love y 'all, don't he?

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