Nightcap Hour 1: Unc, Ocho & Iso Joe react to Commanders big trade + Micah Parsons drama continues

27:13It hits to the gate under the overpass. And so the breeze is always flowing while you practice. So even when I can ride by and throw trash on the field, Joe, I can ride by and throw trash on the field. Hey, Joe, let me tell you something. Don't listen. Don't listen. This is one of the most beautiful places you could ever be. you could ever live. And I guarantee if you visit... Am I lying? If you visit there, you won't want to leave. I promise you.

27:40Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I promise you this, Ocho. You can take this to the bank. I won't tell you everything, but I won't lie about anything. You know me. That's for you, Ocho. That's for you. Now, one thing about it. Joe, you know when it comes to me. Yeah. I'm going to come to me. I lie for both of y 'all, but I never lie to you. Okay. Okay. No. Okay You lied to us though About what? We'll get into it We're not We're not One thing about it when it comes to business It's about longevity It's about longevity Not just forking it out because you can Not just forking it out because you can Ocho You make it seem like y 'all got people Ocho Y 'all make it seem like y 'all got people going into the ring of honor every year Y 'all don't Y 'all ain't got it like that.

28:32Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all ain't got no rich history. Stop this. Rich history. What? Hold on, hold on. You know who played in Cincinnati? Oh, well, no. Joe, you know who played in Cincinnati? You want to talk about rich history? Do you know who played in Cincinnati? Hold on. I know all the great players that played in Cincinnati. I'm making you one name. One of the greatest to ever play in Cincinnati. Rich history. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Joe, you know what I'm talking about, Joe? Go ahead. What that young boy? Anthony Munoz. Huh? Wait. Anthony Munoz. Rich history. Anthony Munoz ain't from no Liberty City. Huh? Where Ocho played is just that.

29:16What? Rich history. Hey, listen. Hey, he might be funny. He might be entertaining. But you can't talk the story of wide receiver without his name. Or one of the greatest. Huh? We talk about rich history. Ocho, we're not trying to deny you your respect and your rightful place. Don't talk about my city like that. Don't talk about my team like that. You get in motion. Your black ass from Liberty City. You ain't from Cincinnati. You ain't from Cincinnati. You ain't from Liberty City. Y 'all ain't from Cincinnati. You ain't from Liberty City. Well, Mike Brown allowed me to live my childhood dream. Boy, I'm from Cincinnati too.

29:51What you talking about? You right there for the poking beans. You grew up in the poking beans. That's me. That's me. Oh, yeah. That's me. You know I should be out there. Pew, pew.

30:06But y 'all wrong for that, Ocho. Hey, stall us out. Come on, now. Every team can operate the same. Okay, Mike Brown doesn't do what Mr. Bowling did. You know, that'll make Mike Brown wrong. Now we got, what you call him?

30:20Shannon Sharpe:Now we got Walton Penner. So I know they're going to hit that thing out. The Wal-Mart family? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a son. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's who owned the Broncos? Yep. Oh, heck. Hey, hey, Mr. What's his name? Mr. What? Walt Pinner. The Walt Pinner Group. Hey, if you see this, man, holler at your boy. Holler at your boy. I'm looking to get a line in Walmart. Hey, hey, Ocho, them my people, man, I can put you in contact with them. What you looking for? I'm just trying to put an affordable line For my people in the world Due to the economy that the people can afford Of luxury wear Affordable luxury wear In all Walmarts Yeah I don't know If luxury and affordable go hand in hand That's oxymoronic That's oxymoronic Luxury and affordable You allow the man to make you think Luxury isn't affordable Therefore you've been brainwashed is luxury has to be expensive and that's what I'm trying to break my brother.

31:29Shannon Sharpe:No, it's the person that described luxury in the dictionary. I don't know, so you got to go way, way, way back. That's the problem. That's what the man has done to us. He has put us in the box and thinking that luxury has to be affordable, therefore it must cost a certain amount of money. I'm trying to show you luxury can look good for under$100. That's like saying affordable housing. Nobody expect affordable housing. We expect affordable housing to be affordable. That means a lot of the masses can afford it. You're not trying to get something. Is anything on Star Island affordable? It depends on who you ask.

32:13Shannon Sharpe:It depends on who you ask. Okay. Oh, Joe, ain't no who you ask. Affordable. Star Island ain't affordable. See? You're not listening to me. huh you're not listening to me my brother i'm trying to take you outside the box and show you luxury can be more than one thing the reason why you put it in walmart tells you everything you need to know so name something that goes in walmart that people consider luxurious because they buy it let me let me tell you something let me tell you let me tell you hold on i'm gonna get I'm going to get them together right now, Joe. I'm going to get them together right now, Joe.

32:53Go ahead. You want to know something that is of luxury that goes in Walmart, right? Yes. Now, ask me the question. Ask me the question. Tell me something that goes in Walmart that's luxury. Go ahead. Ask me the question.

33:13Shannon Sharpe:What's luxurious in Walmart? Me? You ain't in there yet. I will be. Now, look, Walmart does. I think Walmart and Costco sell diamonds. I think they got$100 ,000,$200 ,000 diamonds in there, right? And Walmart and Costco? I know Costco. I know. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying there's Walmart. Normally, when you think of Walmart, people go to Walmart. They're like Walmart, Costco. You buy it in bulk. you're not trying to go spend$200 on a sweatsuit. You know what I'm saying? So when you go in there, it's like Shaq. Shaq sold his shoes. They were affordable. 20, 40, 20, I think the highest pair was maybe like, what,$30?

34:03Shannon Sharpe:That's different than you said, okay, I'm going to be in Foot Locker or I'm going to be in Nike Town or I'm going to be at Shoe Palace. So that's all I'm saying. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But I'm just saying when you say luxurious and affordable. That means to me or someone who shops at Walmart. For someone who wears the clothes at Walmart. Matter of fact, I got one for you right now, Joe. And I bet you people in the chat don't even know about this. You too, Unc. Because you might not see. What do you got? Have you seen the Avias that Walmart sells that look like New Balance?

34:39I have. I have seen them. You know what I mean? Avias? Avias. Yeah, Avias. Avia, yeah A-V-I-A Avia, yes, Avia

34:48Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what you're saying Yeah, man, Joe Boy, Joe, I got the blue pair And I got a white pair with the neon green lining, Joe And a white pair with the blue lining, Joe With Avia Actually, I did a Speaking engagement Up in Bentonville At the Walmart headquarters for about 3 ,000 people Yeah, many years ago, Joe You probably wasn't this had to be 2000 and this had to be like 2000, 2001 you know all this up there where I went to college at man, the University of Arkansas for real? And we call it Bud Walton Arena because it's after the Walmarts after Walton's and listen, I'm glad y 'all they the one that put five and dime out of business the five and ten cent store this is why relationships are so important see, punk play there.

35:42Joe know the people. Y 'all gonna put me in connection. I got a vision and I wouldn't be able to make this vision happen without the connection and the Wi-Fi of y 'all.

35:55Shannon Sharpe:That's what I tell people all the time. The number one thing in business is relationships. People think it's brains. No, it's about relationships. Because you never, because here's the thing, you never know that person that used to sweep up this and sweep up that or did this that was a lower level. He or she done moved up the ranks. Anyway, speaking of Arkansas natives, Jerry Jones doubled down on Michael Parsons today. We got him for three years, no matter what. Michael Parsons with the team's final preseason game tonight. Someone in the tunnel shot. Michael, come to the Falcons. Michael responded.

36:35Shannon Sharpe:Matt Schaub, a candidate. Check this out. Matt Schaub, a candidate for NFL executive director. wants the union to file an immediate grievance against Cowboys Jerry Jones for negotiating directly with Michael Parsons. Which you should not be doing. No. But see, what he's trying to do, Elcho, here's the thing, though. What he's trying to say, I'm the general manager also. But it's what the appellate court said. The appellate court said, even though Roger Goodell said, I'm going to be the arbitrator. He said, where's the hint of fairness in that? Jerry even though you say You're the general manager at the time You're still the owner And you can't negotiate Directly so you're going to have to Remove yourself Jerry's saying he can wear both of them hats Listen Jerry play by his own set of rules He does But they've allowed it Owners in general when you got that kind of money When you got that kind of power And backing and wealth you can play by your own Set of rules matter of fact when you had that kind of money, either the owner of the team, either GM of the team, you can make those set of rules.

37:43And you can do some of the things you're doing. When you're the most profitable franchise like the Dallas Cowboys are, and they've been running a certain way for a very long time, you can make your own rules, which is why you can walk around and talk the way he talks. And there's nothing anybody can do about it.

38:02Shannon Sharpe:That works if you have one. You can't have three or four those it works because jerry is the only one all the other owners are in the collective bargain agreement all the other owners adhere to the policies and regulations of what you can have one when when back when in the 70s and 80s and 90s it was al al davis was the maverick he was the renegade jerry jones sat at the feet of al davis and learned all that al knew so he's the new he's the modern-day Al Davis. It works as long as you got one. You start getting two, three, four, it's not going to work. But I agree with Matt Shaw. Because see, it's what Jerry's trying to do.

38:47Shannon Sharpe:He's trying to say, but I'm the general manager. But as the appellate corps said to Roger Goodell, I understand that you're the arbitrator. But you're still the commissioner of the league. And you want to be able to hear this argument and decide. But you said, but I'm the arbiter. No, but I still know that you're the commissioner of the NFL. So, Jerry, I understand that you say you're the general manager, but you're still the owner of the team. So where's the hint of fairness? Hey, think about that real quick, Joe. Joe, think about that, Joe. What's that? I mean, you playing for the Broncos. Joe, you playing for the Hawks.

39:30and the owner comes straight to you knowing you don't know you know about money, you know about that part but when it comes to contracts they bring you the contract, goddamn contract this big contract this big go ahead and read through that huh? yeah come on man, stop playing honestly it's somewhat insulting you know, no disrespect to Michael Parsons is somewhat insulting if the owner coming trying to undermine you, trying to undermine not only Micah Parsons, but undermine the agent as well because they know there's certain things, there's certain languages that Micah's not going to know or understand that he's not going to be able to see in something that big.

40:14Right. I wonder if people have ever seen an NFL contract, huh? They don't want to. It looks like a goddamn pamphlet.

40:23Shannon Sharpe:Could I ask you a question, don't you? Joe, do y 'all think Jerry Jones have personal attorneys? yes absolutely so why would why wouldn't he why wouldn't he negotiate directly with someone else when he has a deter when he has an attorney does he do that well only with see jerry is willing to negotiate only when he's in an advantageous situation see when somebody is on the other side that's in an advantageous situation he sends his lawyers in to do the negotiating now he feels that he's in an upper hand. Now, I don't believe this. A lot of people, he feels he has the upper hand. He can slick talk.

41:04Shannon Sharpe:Now, I got to have these escalator clauses and blah. Okay, something, you know, I need all that in there. I can double dip because hey, if I release you, you go sign with another team, that offsets some of the money. I still, no, no, no, no, no. It don't offset nothing. I'm going to get every dime that you owe me and I'm going to go over here and get some more money. All that needs to be included, Ocho Yeah, that's too much All that needs to be The moral clauses, all that Need to be going over with a fine teeth cone The players don't know all that The players don't know all that The players, we want to know What are my guarantees I don't care about The length of the contract I don't care about the big number What are my guarantees?

41:51What am I getting those first three years? that's my meat and potatoes outside of the planning bonus that's what matters

41:59Shannon Sharpe:when I put my name on this contract what kind of check am I looking at ok like Ocho said over the next three years how much money am I actually going to get of that big gargantuan number of that one billion dollars over the next three years how much am I getting actually ok let's go play hey listen I mean obviously you know when you chat, you see things scroll across the tick at the bottom of the screen. You know, you see five-year $280 million. You know, that$280 million, you know, that is the crust to the pie. That's the crust to the pie, Joe. That ain't really the number. Them first three years, that's all that matter.

42:45I need to know how much that is. Because they're not letting you get to the back end to reach anywhere and then no goddamn$280 million. I don't Unless your contract like Deshaun's.

42:55Shannon Sharpe:2.30. Guaranteed. Okay. Hey, don't he got the same agent Deshaun got? Yep. Hey, listen. Moola Getter. I feel like it's going to get Joe and Ocho, his name is Moola Getter. Moola. Moola Getter. Moola Getter. Yeah, right, right, right. Hey, listen. We can't go into Philly on a Thursday night without Michael, man. Ain't no way. Look, Jerry got to get this done, man. He got to get this. I feel like it's going to get done. But it's going to be in the last hour, guys. It ain't going to get no cheaper. Look, he got it. He's going to spend it. He's going to get no cheaper.

43:40Shannon Sharpe:Brock Bauer was voted the 24th best player in the NFL, the number one tight end. George Kittle was number 31. Travis Kelsey was number 37. Terry McBride was number 65. Sam Laporta was number 94. Bowers rookie season, he had the most catches, 112, 1 ,194 receiving yards, and five touchdowns. I think the first two are the most for a rookie, correct? Because only two rookies have ever had over 1 ,000 yards receiving. Mike Dicker had it and Kyle Pitts had it. But I don't think either one of those had 1 ,194. And I know neither one of those had, because he broke, I think he broke Puka Nakula's record.

44:23Shannon Sharpe:And then Neighbors, I think Neighbors had 108 catches this year. But the most catches for a rookie, Bowers, most receiving yards by rookie tight end, 1194. Ocho, Joe, do you think it's too soon to call Brock Bowers the best tight end in football? I mean, ugh. Ugh. Oh, he's so goddamn good, man. man, most of the time there's a waiting process. You took the words out of a Bible, Joe. He went from Georgia, came to the league, and they missed a beat? He should have came out. They should have let him come out as a freshman. He was that good. That made that man wait two after a year. For what? Nice.

45:13Yes. Now he's up next. Obviously, Travis Kelsey, George Kittle. I mean, Laporta, Hawkinson. But he's different. He's different. He's different.

45:28Shannon Sharpe:He is. I got to go in here. It's hard for me to give it to a player after one year. But if he puts together, I'm not saying he needs 112. I'm not saying he needs 1 ,200 receiving yards. I'm not saying he needs 13, 14 touchdowns. He just needs another year of consistency. Of the same thing. But listen, you know who his quarterback is, right? Yes. Oh, you know. You know his quarterback got an arm. You know his quarterback is going to feed him. You should. Man, please. You should. Rock is going to have 100-plus catches. He's going to have another 1 ,000-plus yards. ain't no telling how many TDs.

46:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because I don't know if they got, they don't really have the wiring. They don't have the one, they don't have the chase. They don't have the Jetta. They don't have that guy caliber guy outside of him. He is that in the Raiders offense. So he's going to get the most targets. He's going to get the most opportunities. But I looked at the kid as a freshman. I was like, this kid can play in the NFL now. He that good. He was that good. He just bided his time. I mean, hey, I'm sure he enjoyed the college experience, but no, he legit. He legit. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance.

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49:57Shannon Sharpe:Let's listen to what Vabra's response was. There's a report today that Jalen Pope will have to have season-ending shoulder surgery. Can you add anything to that? No. I don't know. Other than I'd like to find out where some of these come from. You know, some of these rats around here. So we'll figure that out.

50:24Shannon Sharpe:you see what a now we see everybody who said that who said that they don't just be making this stuff up i know y 'all be trying to name your source name your source name your source Jordan. Nah. They don't make that up.

50:43Owners, head coaches,

50:45Shannon Sharpe:general managers, player personnel, position coaches, players. That's how Adam Schefter stay in business. That's how Shams stay in business. The agents, that's how they get that information. Y 'all get mad. Y 'all get mad. Y 'all don't get mad at the people for telling them. Y 'all get mad at Schefter and Sean for reporting. The first thing they always say, especially the fans, state your source. State your source. Well, who said it? Well, duh, if they state their source, they would never be able to get information anymore. No, you're done. So just go ahead and turn your pen and say, hey, ESPN, I'm done.

51:23Shannon Sharpe:I'm no longer in business doing that. You heard what he said. So now, Chad, ain't nothing wrong with it. Now you heard what he said. He would like to know who the rat is. So somebody told a reporter because the reporter stood up there point blank and asked him about season ending shoulder surgery. That he should know about. The reporter should know about that. Nothing. As a matter of fact, they'd be reporting. Now, I'm not saying that someone, but like when Schefter didn't be coming nine times out of 10, Ocho, oh, they got that from somewhere. They got that from somewhere. A close source. Yes.

52:04Shannon Sharpe:people around the league. No, people in the league. They don't around no league. They ain't around it. They in it. Somebody talking. Sources in the NFL. The league office. That's just the way it works. I was reading some comments about some of the stuff we talked about last night with the Shador. I'm not going back on the Shador thing right now. I'm just saying in general. And some of the comments throughout today. of people on my timeline reacting to what we're saying and what Eric Dickerson said. People are like, oh, that's impossible. Why would the NFL care? I mean, they come up with all these different solutions, and it goes back to me in people underestimating how powerful the NFL is in general, how they just see it as just a football game, and how they don't understand that the shield is one that remind people.

53:00Let me say this again slowly. The shield in the NFL is one that will remind people in any way, shape, form, or fashion nothing will be bigger than our program. Nothing will be bigger than our program. People are so blind to it and don't understand the power that those individuals as a whole possess. It's ridiculous. Even when I was playing, Unc, let me tell you something, Joe.

53:32Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead. Even when I was playing, I understood the power that be of the shield, so I understood I know I can play a little bit. Joe? Yeah, but not too much. I knew I could play around a little bit. Pat, y 'all stay with me. But I understood what lines knock the cross. Unc, I understood the game very early. I understood my time in NFL. It won't be that long. I have a small window of opportunity to have some fun, to make some money. But there are certain lines that cannot cross, but at some point in the long run, I'm going to have to cross that bridge again.

54:14Shannon Sharpe:Call in between the lines, Ocho. Call in between the lines. Hey, Joe. Joe, listen. Joe, let me tell you something. How well I'm at it playing the game. Huh? and Joe I can say to chat stay with me real quick some of the things I'm got some of the things I have going on right now all these goddamn jobs and all these goddamn opportunities there's certain buttons that are being pushed behind closed doors that you can't see Joe come on Joe there's certain buttons being pushed behind closed doors man come on man don't make me start don't make me start Hey, hey, hey. Hey, I understand. I understand, man.

54:55Shannon Sharpe:Listen. Hey, I understand about the buttons being pushed behind closed doors. There's people working for you and you don't even know it. Well, you don't even know it. Yeah. That's why you don't burn no bridges. Yeah. Everybody talking about do this and do that and I did this and I did that. Okay. It's working. You leave like you came. You came with your dignity. You leave. all that yelling and screaming, hey, well, nobody was harmed in the making of that movie. But at the end of the day, there's been speculation that Pope was going to be cut or trade candidate with all 32 teams needing a set 53-man roster by 4 Eastern on August the 26th.

55:43Shannon Sharpe:Who would benefit from leaking injury of a player more than the player himself who may not want to be leave or traded? Well, you can't trade a player if he's cut. I mean, if he's injured, you have to offer him an injury settlement. So he's straight. So they can't trade him. No, you can't cut an injury. You have to offer him an injury settlement. You can't do it in basketball. I ain't know how football works. But we've seen players get injured. I could have swore I saw stuff where players have gotten injured, they get cut right away, especially in training camp. I could have swore I saw that. No?

56:15They get a settlement. At least the reports could say a settlement was received instead of a player. Okay, okay.

56:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I have a question. Is there a certain amount, a set amount for injury settlement? I guess however long it's going to – I mean, that's something the agent would work out probably the length of time if it's gone for the season. You're like, no, I want my money. But maybe what, a million, two million? It all depends. I think he's like a second-year player, right? He's a second-year player. So, I mean, what's his,$800 ,000, a million dollars? Right now. They're like, okay, they probably eat that, Ocho. Right. Okay, okay, okay, okay. It's when you get into the situation like a Christian Wilkins.

57:06Shannon Sharpe:You're getting guys making 13, 15, 20. Now it becomes a problem. I have a question. have it or joey and basketball joe they do what they call a buyout okay i'll give you 85 i'll give you 90 of your money they don't they don't do that in football hell no hold on they cut you they say you're about your way don't know yeah they they get you up out there unless you got getting like me like like russ the broncos cut russ they say okay they gave russ all his money I'm saying Yeah, but no Not a lot of people have that big guaranteed money Yeah, if you got guaranteed money You don't care Russ had$35 -$36 million Coming from the Broncos So it wasn't nothing to go take the$2 million from the Steelers I got$40 million I don't care how you divv it out I got it coming But a lot of guys ain't got that guaranteed money So

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