Nightcap Hour 1: VINTAGE Patrick Mahomes BACK in win over Lions + Justin Fields STRUGGLES vs Jets in London + Cowboys hit ROCK BOTTOM + Shedeur NEXT UP in Cleveland?

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27:03Shannon Sharpe:Garrett Wilson was asked about his sideline exchange with Aaron Glenn. at the end of the first half. Ocho, let's take a listen to what he had to say. You didn't see that at the end of the first half when you were walking off the field. Was that the way the drive went? Well, really, like, you know, that stuff like that is just, I don't know, y 'all, I just didn't know exactly what the plan was. And once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed. I'll just say that. So, yeah. To not run a play, is that what you mean? Yeah, I didn't know exactly, like, what the plan was. I just thought we were, once we, you know, converted the fourth down, I just thought we were going further, you know, trying to make the play.

27:50And then, obviously, we get to another fourth down, and it's a tough spot to be in. So, you know, in hindsight, I get why they did that. But in the moment, I was just like, man, I don't know. Yeah. He's speaking of specifics, huh? He's speaking of specifics, you know.

28:07Shannon Sharpe:Yes, I don't know. I didn't know what they was doing. And I was like, y 'all just going to let the time run out? You're not going to run a play? You're not going to even dump anything? I was thinking about clock management as well. And I'm like, well, why the hell? Why are they letting the clock go all the way down? Let's try to do something. Let's do something. But obviously, you know, he's frustrated. He's frustrated. He should be. The guy had been, he was offensive rookie of the year with some very marginal quarterbacks. And allegedly, supposedly, they had supposed to have gotten better quarterbacks but his stats aren't indicative of that so he's frustrated by that second of all when you do what they did it tells me you don't trust your quarterback yeah oh you don't that's the only reason you would do something like that because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that same amount of time try to run plays and if we got time we're gonna call we're gonna use that time out or we're gonna help the guys uh hope the guys don't get out of bounds But when you just let that amount of time just run off the clock, you cannot convince me that you're just a quarterback.

29:16You don't, because that's the only reason you do a time like that. We can't put our team, we can't put our quarterback, because in decision-making it's not where it needs to be to be able to put him in situations that might not be advantageous for him because he might make the wrong decision with the ball. We can't trust him.

29:34Shannon Sharpe:To make matters worse, Wilson suffered an injury to one of his knee ligaments, and he'll have an MRI upon returning to New Jersey. Ocho, look, and when he did, and he was late with the ball, he was all over the place. He had him on the out and he throws it behind him. He had another guy. He would have had the first down and, you know, he ends up hurting his back. And so on fourth down, they don't even have Garrett Wilson in the ball game. I'm like. Whatever could go wrong went wrong that day for them. It went wrong with Ocho. even the best defense attorney will instruct you at some point in time, we don't have a winnable case.

30:22Shannon Sharpe:At some point in time, and it's coming sooner rather than later, I don't know how much further I can stick my neck out for Justin Fields. I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. In order to have a chance, Unc, in this league, there's 32 teams. In order to have a chance, I don't care who's coaching. I don't care what you have on the offensive line. I don't care what you have at receiver. I don't care what you have on defense. In order to have a chance in today's era of football, you've got to have a quarterback. He doesn't have to be the fastest. He doesn't have to have the best arm. He just has to be consistent in his decision-making.

31:06He has to have exquisite anticipatory skills in being able to play the position, being able to process information in front of him, and being able to do exactly what you ask of him to make sure that offense goes, whatever that may be. Whatever it may be. I thought this would be good for Justin Fields, especially with the signs that he showed with the Steelers last year and lead him to a winning record until Russell Wilson was given a job by Mike Tomlin. I'm like, you know what? If Justin Fields gets his own team, I think he's going to be okay because he showed flashes of brilliance. And what do you do when he's quarterback number one?

31:43Now you're quarterback number one. You ain't got nobody to worry about. You don't have nobody looking over your shoulder so you can actually play free. You can play free. Based on the play call and some of the things that they were doing, It's like they don't even trust in the quarterback that they have because they're not the play calling isn't free. We have to protect our quarterback from himself. So, you know what? We don't let the clock run out because we don't we don't even want to put him in the situation. We have to make certain decisions because it can go wrong. You're right.

32:17Shannon Sharpe:It's bad. It's bad. and I know, and AG's like wants to show support, but I don't know how much longer that, because at the end of the day, Ocho, you got 50 other guys in that locker room now, and I understand the loyalty that you want to have for your quarterback and you want to show support, but you'll lose the locker room supporting one as opposed to the other guys, because they'll look like, and they know, Ocho, you've been in locker rooms for a long time. I've been in locker rooms. Yeah. and and maybe tyrod maybe it's time to hey maybe you give it a couple of more games you like well hey justin i'm sorry we're gonna have to let let let tyrod have a go at this see if he can get some things going because this is this this doesn't this does this is this is terrible now look the broncos defense is really really good that front seven oh they get out the quarterback and if you think about it they're rotational the a bote uh bonito and cooper they'll go a series and then And the next, they got a whole different set of lineup.

33:20Shannon Sharpe:And they got a NASCAR package that they just keep rotating them. And they keep coming. They collapse you from the outside. And then you got Big Allen collapsing the middle. And they're going to run you into somebody. If you run wide, Coop got you. If you run to the other side, Benito got you. You try to step up in the pocket, you got Allen collapsing the pocket. So they're really good. Don't get me wrong. Now, that's not a slot defense. And Passer Tane is legit. He is legit. he is hands down the best yeah absolutely absolutely and he is smooth man he is so smooth the way he can transition and he's long hey his arm like this long and so he doesn't have to be that close to do this or to do this yeah he's really good we exchange he's really he's so fluid i mean for some to someone to be as tall as he is and to be as fluid through the hips as he is because bro he backpedaling get out of there in a hurry and he could whip his hips and go but Ocho

34:20Shannon Sharpe:being raised on a farm I was in 4-H went to county fairs went to a goat show, a cow show and I've been to the circus I ain't never seen no ish like what I saw with the Jazz today you done been around a lot of football too, you ain't seen nothing like you I have but today I'm talking about look, and I've been I'm like damn I'm trying to think. I think maybe one other time that I've actually been around and I saw it held out a part of it. It had to be the Ravens. I think you got to go back to 92. And the Eagles, the Eagles beat us. I think they beat us 30 to nothing. I don't know if we had 50 yards of total offense.

35:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, no, the Eagles. No, I was with the Broncos. Yeah. But that was, so that was what, 33 years ago? And you got to think about it, Ocho. They said the last time somebody had that few yards in a passing game, that was 98. That was 27 years ago. So you're talking about almost three decades. This doesn't happen often. So people, I don't want you to say that. Oh man, that could happen. No, this does not happen often, especially in today's game when it's catered for the quarterback and the receivers, because you can't punish the quarterback and it's hard for you to touch the receivers. So with that being said to get a performance, like what they got today.

35:45Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, 82 yards of total offense. That's a testament to how good that defense actually is. Even with them being handicapped because of the rules, that's just how good they are. And how bad the opposing team was. That too. Hey, listen, two things can be true. They absolutely can be true. But I don't know where the Jets go. I do know. I do know. They take their ass home. and that's a long ass flight to take an ass with. Do you even watch film? Hell no! I ain't showing that. I'm putting that where they put Jimmy Hoffa. Where the hell, wherever the hell that is. I'm burying that tape. Ain't nobody gonna see that.

36:33Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, I'm gonna sue NFL films if they show it. You better be glad that they got like, remember they used to have inside the NFL, don't you? They have the Thursday night, they have the game. And they show highlights from the game? Nah, don't y 'all show that. Don't y 'all show it. A deep thing. But this was bad. This was bad. And you can lose a locker room if you're not careful. Also, there's one thing about losing a locker room and a coach having to make a very tough decision for a quarterback, for a quarterback that you consider your number one, a quarterback that's been paid is the backup is the backup the answer because once once you make a move in the middle of a season like this we're only in week six once you make a move like this you're making a move i think they give them a couple more weeks ocho but if they don't turn this thing around i can see us ocho if we owens we own a oh and nine oh and ten so what we try to i mean what are we trying to do because i already know a team and another team that's in the midwest that's trying to get the number one pick.

37:38Shannon Sharpe:That's Cleveland. And we'll talk about them in a minute. So are the Jets trying to get the number one pick? Because if you're trying to get the number one pick, you just stay the thorns. Because that quarterback that you bring in there, Tyron's going to try to win games. I'm just telling you. And I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't. So you just tell me what to do because here's the thing. These other guys in the locker room, they don't care that you're trying to build for the future. I ain't trying to get my head split right now while you're building for the future. Damn your future. my future is right now because I might not even be here when we get good.

38:09Which is true. And there going to be some heads rolling now. There going to be some attitudes. There going to be some frustrations especially from five. You know Garrett Wilson ain't finna go for that. Garrett Wilson's not finna go for that. You paid me like the receiver that I am. Please use me as such. Please use me as such.

38:32Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, last week Rico Didel ran for over 200 yards. He knew the Cowboys was on the schedule. They asked him. He said, tell them to buckle up. They didn't buckle up. The Cowboys beat the Panthers. Excuse me. The Panthers beat the Cowboys by the score of 30 to 27. Another game in which the Cowboys defense were exposed. Brian Schottenheimer stood up for his defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflues. The Cowboys allowed 216 rushing yards, a season high. led by former Cowboy Rico Dowell, who had 183 yards on 30 carries. It marked the fourth time the Cowboys have allowed at least 144 yards rushing this season.

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43:42Shannon Sharpe:because his defense is so putrid. If he puts the ball, when he gets it back, if he had a lead, they're either going to be tied or they're going to be closer than they were when he punted the ball because his defense can't stop anybody. That defense is atrocious. Now, they keep blaming. I don't know what it is. They fired Mike Nolan. They said it was Mike Nolan. Now, some of those players were still there when Mike Nolan was there. They had Zim. It was Zim. He wasn't no good. They got Mike Iberflues. So they've had three or four different coordinators. And a lot of those same players that were there are still there.

44:18Shannon Sharpe:Now, I want to know, Ochoa, at some point in time, we got to start holding the players accountable because we quick to blame that coach, that coordinator, that this, that, that. It's the coaches. It's the scheme. But it's never the players, which is why I'm tired of hearing that. I'm tired of hearing that, especially out of the 5-1-3 all the time. But we'll get to that game in a minute. But I said this before the season started. People laughed at me when I said my surprise team. I had two. I had two. One of them was the Bears and the other one was the Carolina Panthers. I told them I want you to watch out for the Panthers.

44:56I want you to watch out for Bryce Young. Watch out for the defense and watch out for the receivers. And what are they doing? You saw what they did to the Panthers. I mean, excuse me, you saw what they did to the Atlanta Falcons not long ago. You saw what he did today Young Bull Young Bull I don't want to butcher his last name Running back

45:24How you say it the right way

45:28Dadell People say Dadell but I think it's Dadell Dadell or Dadell

45:39Shannon Sharpe:I've heard it both ways I don't listen to the broadcast so chat y 'all have to tell me how to say it Ash on the broadcast how do they say it do they say Dinell or they say Donald you know people don't play by their last name now hey but listen boy he was on a mission he was on a mission it wasn't nothing cute about him today you know Rico Rico Suave, you know Rico wasn't nothing cute about Rico today. He told y 'all this man, Ocho, this man called his shot. This man said he was going to do it. You know how difficult that is to call your shot in the middle of the week before the game and tell people to buckle up and then actually go out there and do exactly what you're going to do, which is the reason why you said you need to buckle up on the ground catching in the air.

46:30Man, man, Dowdell was all over the place.

46:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, I doubt. But I thought that but I was like, hey, they say daddy a but Ocho.

46:50Shannon Sharpe:At some point at some point, Jerry has to understand his defense is built. They're undersized. When you have an undersized defense, what does that mean? Oh, Joe, you built a play with a lead because you want to eliminate the run game because you're 14 17 points up they're not going to run it now you use those underside guys to stream up the stream up bill okay what happens when you got to sit your light ass in there and catch they ain't got a day ain't got nobody Jerry I'm very disappointed in you because everything with you you you were yakking You win a game, you yakking. You had a tie ball game, and they couldn't get him out the podium.

47:34Shannon Sharpe:Hell, they thought it was a ringmaster. Hey, hurry, hurry, step right up. Now, Carolina done put foot in your butt. Now, Jared didn't speak to the media. Why not? Because. Oh, no. Did he speak today? Absolutely not. Then you gotta talk. Yeah, exactly. Front running. Now, oh, hold up. You remember a couple. you remember uh what was the last week and then you remember that don't you you see what i'm talking about

48:11Shannon Sharpe:now look at it everything that went wrong well you know michael wasn't good against the run okay michael gone what's your problem now well we didn't go that far when we had michael okay how far you gonna go without him now because you're 2-3-1. Hey, listen, if they're going to have a shot, now I know we didn't get to it yet, but offensively, we'll get to that in a minute. But boy, that, boy, he earned every bit of that 60. He earned every bit of that 60 or whatever it is. Empty calories, Ocho. Empty calories. If you say, you know what, Ocho, if you say, man, you know what, I'm going to get in shape.

48:50Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to eat healthy. Bro, you go eat Twinkies and Ho-Hos, all them is empty calories they don't do nothing for you they said it's why you're craving but they add absolutely no nutritional value that's what those stats are you gotta understand listen i'm doing my job i'm doing what i'm supposed to do this is a team game right so i yeah you're supposed to win yeah that that too but to give i need y 'all to stop something over here i need y 'all to stop some over here i will say to his credit though ocho he hasn't turned no no he's playing clean He playing. So I will concede, but it's hard because he knows he has to be perfect.

49:30Shannon Sharpe:Because my team not going to stop anybody. Right now, we can't stop a parked car.

49:40Shannon Sharpe:So you know that going into the ball game. I already know what I'm up against.

49:48Shannon Sharpe:That's secondary. Look, you can't stop a what? A parked car. I don't know if Diggs is still hurt. He's not the same. Diggs don't even look the same to me. I know Diggs better than this. I don't know if that injury, if he's 100 % recovered, because I know they fined him$500 ,000 because he wasn't around or whatever's going on. But look, he was always a cluer. He was always a guesser. and look, he got incredible hands. He gets his hands on the ball. He coming down with it. Most of the times when he does guess, he guesses in the right way because he knows what's coming. No, not anymore, Ocho. He didn't look the same today?

50:35Shannon Sharpe:He ain't looked the same in a while. He ain't looked the same in a while. And the defense, and because, look, they got those guys, like I said, teams just going to run the ball. And now when you run the ball, you're going to have to drop the safety down and now you don't really have no help over the top at all i mean if they ran the ball 38 times for 216 think about you dead last in total yards you like 24th in rush yards allowed you probably dead last the points where they in points allowed because they gave up 40 to the packers they gave up 30 today they gave up what 24 they probably average of giving up 24.

51:14Shannon Sharpe:They're close to the bottom. They 28 through 32 in points allowed. Nobody should be surprised. If you're in the chat tonight, I'm sure you're a faithful fan. You've been watching for a very long time. I told you before the season started. I told you about the Panthers. Everybody laughed at me outside of Panthers fans. Everybody laughed at me. Oh, man, they sorry. They did stay that. I told you. you know and I kept I'm gonna remind you again hey keep pounding bitch all right but see here's the problem that I have you see at some point in time now you're gonna have to like when you get the ball you're gonna have to keep putting points on the board you can't be content when you got a lead they punt the ball you got to go get points again because you know that was an anomaly that your defense stopped them.

52:11Shannon Sharpe:What's the likelihood your defense going to pitch a shutout the second half? Not happen. They gave up. They gave up seven. They gave up 10 points in the fourth quarter. More times than not that they scored three in the fourth quarter. So they scored 10 and they gave up 17. Bryce Young 17 to 20 17 to 25 a buck 99 three touchdowns one pick sack uh one time for five yards 38 carries 216 yards george pickens playing his ass off well you see wait remember we talked about remember i told you you weren't gonna have no issues out of my out of bro and i told you that not that conversation george i know you're gonna see this boy i love you but i love you i told you it's okay it's okay This is this is why your team is two three and one The Cowboys dead last in total D dead last in past D Dead last in third down percentage second to the worst points allowed averaging 30.7 points again Wait offensively, I'm sure they're a high day way higher than that Yeah, you ain't overcoming that you can't because you you Because think about what you got to think about Ocho in order for you to have they give it up 30.7 so in that order for you to be winning that means you got to score 30.8 a game that's very difficult very difficult

53:46Shannon Sharpe:they got the second best offense Ocho fourth in points 29.7 so you give up one more Ocho see man we were close all I need to do is score one more point to you and that's what they average Guess what they score 29.7 they give up 30.7. So guess what if you score 29 I score 30 who we You know that that situation right there to give people a better perspective to give people better context It sounds like another team when my quarterback is healthy. We go through that same issue because We can go on 30 a game when everybody is healthy She would other teams going 32 We score 40 they score 50 you can't win for Luka yeah well you saw it last year y 'all scored 38 y 'all lose 41-38 y 'all scored 35 they scored 38 well Jerry said Michael was the problem Jerry said well Jerry didn't say anything today I want to know see front running now see all that you all out the window in the owner's box you all out oh we just having a good time we have you know the Cowboy fans we traveling the capital we just having a good old time i ain't see it hey this is all this is what you saw up there this is what you saw today ocho and in in the funny you like to skip a school kids when it's raining outside and you ain't got no recess you gotta sit there and look out the window you know something like this how do you fix how do you fix that though this is just not a one player issue defensively.

55:28This is not a one thing. You got to

55:30Shannon Sharpe:get, you got to get better players. You're gonna get better players. The NFL, which you build your, it is hard to get them now because you got what you got, but you have a T, you have a team that's built on playing with the lead. Well, if you can't get the lead Ocho, you can't just turn them loose because if you just run your ass up the field, they're gonna just run where you will left. So you, you catch it. They, you, They too small. They ain't got no bricks in the back pocket. You can't drop anchor with them little light-ass guys they got up there. Man, they got guys back pocket shaking hands.

56:05Shannon Sharpe:They so small. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm thinking about it. If I was Jerry, now listen, I'm putting my owner's hat on. I'm putting my owner's hat. I need to get someone to anchor that front. Someone that I could build around, and he could be that centerpiece for me. Jerry don't care about winning, Ocho. We've been determined that. I'm just hypothetically talking. Hey, Chad, tell me what you think. Right now, Tennessee Titans. I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons to anchor my defense and build from there out. Build from the inside out to start over. What you think? I'm going to get you. Well, George Pickens is going to want a lot of money.

56:46Shannon Sharpe:George Pickens is going to want at least DK money. Oh, and he's going to get DK money. Let me show you what's going to happen or what can happen. CeeDee Lamb, who's considered a top five quarterback, who's considered a top five receiver, when we talk about receiving, when he goes out, let me show you what I can do. I can pick up right where he left. Let me show you what I can do if I get the opportunities that I deserve that I should have got when I was in you know where. I'm not going to bring them up. But I can do the same thing. I can put up number two. I can take you deep or I can take a slant to the house.

57:18Man, stop playing with me. This is what I do.

57:21Shannon Sharpe:Hey, if he get his hands on the ball and he face your ass up, good luck getting his ass on the ground. That is a wrap. It is a wrap. He reminds you of a smaller version of T.O. You remember how T.O. ran Avery? If T.O. got the ball in his hands and he face you up, You not you right here in front of him not getting him on the ground You better hope that a I want a come on which way you go. I'm gonna try to hold him out. Come on man. Damn I can't hold him here forever You bring help Bad and that's how y 'all that's what they have to do with pick If he get the ball in his hand and he turns around and square your ass up and then any any no, it's funny He's faster then he looked because ain't nobody catching him from behind.

58:15Shannon Sharpe:He played fast. He might not be fast. I don't even know what he ran. He might have ran 4-4 Ocho, but there are guys that might not run fast but play fast. That's Jerry. Jerry didn't run fast, but he played fast. Emmitt didn't run fast, but he played fast. He has what they call functional speed. He has football speed. You get him out there to test? But boy,

58:45man that i told you before the season started they wouldn't you did i'm i'm glad because i'm like

58:53Shannon Sharpe:bro you got to make this money bro you got you got an opportunity to make 200 million dollars to set your family up for generations and generations i mean there might be a george pickett the fourth and say, my great, great granddad put me and put me and put this family in position. Bro, don't waste that day. Don't mess up your money with some foolishness. The best thing to happen, he needed to get out of Pittsburgh. He needed a change of scenery. And sometimes that's what it takes, Ocho. Sometimes it takes a change of scenery. Sometimes it takes somebody, him or her to get into a new relationship in order for them to be their very best.

59:32Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I'm glad for him.

59:36Shannon Sharpe:But again, I know... I'm happy. But the Cowboys? I know it wasn't... But Jerry don't care about winning Ocho. We've decided this. You and I, we talked about this for years. Jerry cared more about money. Yeah, we understand that too. But I'm thinking from a defensive perspective, with them being in every category, in every statistic, in every metric, in every standard when it comes to football, week six, November's coming up, deadline, you never know. if you were to make some type of hasty move, I would love to see them. It probably won't happen. I'm just thinking as I'm putting my GM hat on. I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons.

1:00:18You know, quality, top three defense tackle in the NFL right now to this day. Boom, I'm putting you right there and I'm going to build around you. I'm going to build around you. Yeah. That's just me. What y 'all think, Chad? I know y 'all are part of that.

1:00:33Shannon Sharpe:Their linebackers aren't very good, Ocho.

1:00:38Shannon Sharpe:Their linebackers are not very good. They ain't got no plug. I mean, look, Sam Williams, they got guys trying to rush off the edge, but I'm talking about like a Mike backer. Hold on. Understand. Let me tell you something. You might not like what they have right now because what that Mike backer has in front of them is light and ass. Now, what happens if you go get that big 98 from goddamn over there in Tennessee and you get to be able to roam free? Why I want to give him up to you, what you going to give me? Huh? One of the first-round picks that you got from the Packers? Maybe. Hey, listen, if we Jerry, we can negotiate.

1:01:17Shannon Sharpe:But Jerry don't like that, Ocho. He don't want to give up. Jerry likes to develop players. So Jerry has gotten burned in free agency, and so he's done with it. He's done with it. He's going to get guys that he go get the Jadavion Clowney, and Clowney had – but Clowney, he's not going to move the needle. He's not the Clowney of old. No, no, no, no. And we had that discussion. We don't think he ever lived up to what we thought he was going to be. He was in the draft with Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack turned out to be the better player. That's what Khalil Mack is. That's what we thought Jadavion Clowney was going to be.

1:02:00Shannon Sharpe:based on what we saw in college, you probably got to go back to an Indomitian suit to find a guy that raised hell. Now, the dominated like Jadamian Clowney did his sophomore year. His junior year, he was just trying not to get hurt. So he didn't play like he did his sophomore year. But go back and look at Indomitian suit last year. He was like, okay, that's the best player in the country. Now, I forget who won the Heisman Trophy that year. Sam Bradford won. And Dominick Nsou was the best player in the country that year. That's what we thought Jadavion Clowney was going to be. But we'll see what Jerry's going to do right now.

1:02:44Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it would have been lovely to hear from him. But.

1:02:50Shannon Sharpe:Unfortunately, we did not hear from him, Ocho. But a team that we did hear from today, Aaron Rodgers, through two TDs as the Steelers continued their home dominance over the Browns by the score of 23-9. Steelers, seemingly, Ocho, on cruise control, they're 4-1 in the division. Cleveland, 1-5. Baltimore, 1-5. Cincinnati has lost, what, 4 straight? So now they're 2-4.

1:03:24Pittsburgh division to lose? Yeah, absolutely. And honestly, I don't see him losing it. And I can say this. Yeah, I can say this. As much as I love my Bengals, I don't see him losing it. Now, I saw something nice we'll talk about later when we get to the Bengals, but goddamn Aaron Rodgers got them boys playing on all cylinders, don't they? Especially on offense, playing on all cylinders. As good as that defense is over in Pittsburgh, with the names that they do have, once they start gelling and playing that good football the right way, the way we know they can play, they're going to be fine. As long as Aaron Rodgers is playing like Aaron Rodgers is playing that, they're always going to be in contention, and they're going to be hard to beat.

1:04:07Forget right now, I ain't talking about week six. I'm talking about when real football starts. after Thanksgiving, getting into the postseason when it's cold and you got to go over there, it ain't called Heinz Field no more, huh?

1:04:21Shannon Sharpe:I think it is. See, Heinz Field? When you got to take your – Heinz Field. Why not know? Well, you ain't going to be able to throw the ball 50 times a game. You're going to have to put it on the ground. And you got Cam Haywood. You got goddamn T.J. Watt coming off that goddamn end. And – damn, I forgot young boy name. Was it Smith? 56. 56. He – Yeah, man, stop playing, man. Yeah, nice now. Then the back end really ain't got no weakness. Now, I know. Ocho, it's called Accra Shore Stadium. No longer Hines Field, Accra Shore Stadium. Who the hell is Accra Shore? I tell you what, and I mean no disrespect to Accra Shore.

1:05:00I like to say Hines Field because that's why I played that.

1:05:05Shannon Sharpe:I played the Hines Field and I played the Three Rivers, the old Three Rivers. When they had the carpet, they had the carpet. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the stadium would be bouncing. I mean, you can literally see it. It's bouncing up and down. It started rocking. The Browns offense failed to eclipse 17 points for the 11th straight game. Dillon Gabriel, 29 of 52, 221 yards, six times. how do you so you mean to tell me your guy you're gonna let your guy in a second start you're gonna let him throw the ball 52 times against that defense on the road it's hard to run on the Steelers huh it's hard it's hard to run on the Steelers so the other the only other viable option is is you got to throw it and when you think about Dylan Gabriel when you watch him in the games where he's had success anything outside inside the numbers inside the hashes he's really good it's nothing nothing really long you know sometimes you get some some some short digs some some some digs yeah if you know that guess who else knows that that he's good inside the numbers on short stuff yeah exactly yeah that's what thanks oh yo think about it you threw the ball 52 times and you only had 221 yards hey you missed 23 attempts bro i cleveland if y 'all try to get the number one pick just say that whoa no they're not no no no they they want the number one pick for what they get what quarterback because ain't nothing we done seen on saturday that's willing to wait for absolutely not no they don't i guess they want that uh that that pass rushing uh uh number six from miami and pair him with Myles Garrett.

1:06:55Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. Maybe trade it for some more players. I like you. I see where you're going. I like what you think. I like what you're putting up. Hey. Myles Garrett said losing the same way is frustrating. Myles, this is what you signed up for. You took the money. I ain't got no problem with that. I have no problem with that. But Myles Garrett knew they were not going to win. They really haven't won since he been there. They've gotten worse. So you can't say it gets old when you took the money you said you wanted a chance to win they dangled 40 million dollars per year gave you 100 plus 105 110 million fully guaranteed you took the money so now you can't complain because you knew what made you trust them that they were going to be able to do something in one to two years they haven't been able to do in your tenure since you've been there you talking but you know you know that wasn't it you you know you know you know why there was no guaranteed money left so i got i know i know that's what i said look he ain't got no guaranteed money he won't guarantee money he gonna say i won't out with really he won't guarantee money i get that ocho i get it i do and chad i don't want y 'all to think i don't understand but don't complain when you said you said you wanted a chance to win you said you wanted to compete.

1:08:17Shannon Sharpe:You knew with the exception of that one year, you guys haven't been able to compete. You trust this organization to build pieces around you and do the right thing by getting a quarterback? You trusted them? They already have a bad history at that specific position. The one position you need to be able to compete, to be able to contend. the identity for the cleveland browns has always been their defense it has been yeah the hard part has been finding a quarterback that is good not great just good enough to consistently not only keep you in games but win games when you're in certain situations especially games that are close you just have you can go through straight a string of maybe four weeks five weeks of really good I'm talking about consistently throughout a season right especially when it matters most you haven't been able to find that no I don't and he's and I'm and I'm and I'm supposed to trust you that you're going to find that but but what he's finding out Ocho is that money really can't buy happiness when you are competitor and you want to win and to go out there and beat yet guess what that direct deposit is going to hit every monday or if you get paid on the 1st and 15th that deposit is going to hit but them losses they hurt i guarantee you when you out there taking that l i have number one time like man that check gonna be in my that check gonna be no i'm going to get my check so i ain't i just got direct deposit in 2016 but anyway i never thought that hey i'm gonna go upstairs tomorrow and get that paycheck i didn't think like that we don't no we don't when them l started to add up oh yo i've been lose lost six games in a row seven games in a row man please you out there practicing and then guess what guess what's about to happen oh tell them what's gonna happen to cleveland that temperature about to drop it's gonna get cold and guess what you get cold now you out there practicing in the 20 degrees and then come Sunday, you practice, you playing in 20 degrees, 15, 10, and you catching L after L after L after L.

1:10:38Shannon Sharpe:Coach O, Dylan Gabriel completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today. He threw the ball 52 times. Kevin Stefanski kept him in the game for the entirety of the game. I just told you, they don't, they don't, you see how they protect Justin Fields when they're going to the end of the half because of the decision-making, we don't know what he's going to do with the ball. So how do you hide a quarterback weaknesses, whatever weaknesses he may have that we can't see? Now you and I know he can't throw outside the numbers. He can't be on the left half and throw an 18-yard comeback on the right side.

1:11:16Oh, hell no.

1:11:17Shannon Sharpe:That's not the type of quarterback he is. It will come back the other way for a touchdown. So you have to call plays that are predicated to his strengths. His strengths are throwing intermediate and short routes. So therefore, you call plays based on what he's able to do extremely well. Now, that's no knock on him. That's no knock on him. So what we ask of you, that's all we're asking of you based on what you can do well for us offensively. That's what we're going to do. Because that's what you provide for us as a quarterback. Now, that limits your playbook. It limits what you can call. and limit some of the things you like to do as opposed to other quarterbacks that have the arm strength or the prowess to be able to open up the playbook and do more.

1:12:02That's what you have to do. So, I mean, I didn't want to say it like that. I thought everyone else could see that and understood that, especially when you watch them play some of the players at the call. Now, some frustrations might arise with maybe Jerry Judy, who I think is.

1:12:20Shannon Sharpe:Jerry Judah had 13 targets, caught five passes. Fannin Jr. had 10 targets, caught seven. And Joko had six, caught three. Damn. Ocho, I had more DK, four catches. Man, he had a goal ball, and the wind caught it. It brought it back. I mean, he was like five yards in front of the DB. Yeah, he was in the rap. Hold on. Wait. He caught one deep ball on that stuff. He caught a deep ball. That was later. But he ended up, but he had one. That would have been a show enough touchdown. And Rodgers put it up, and I guess the wind caught it. Because Rodgers, he turned around and looked up like, damn. I didn't know it was like that.

1:13:10Shannon Sharpe:But I don't know what Cleveland's doing. I don't know if they're trying to get the number one pick. because they're going to have to fight the Jets for it. There's nothing out there. This is no knock. And, Chad, y 'all know because y 'all watch college football. There is nothing out there that is glaring where it's like where teams are clamoring for those who are in situations like the Browns or let's say like the Cowboys defensively where, you know what, we got to have him. We got to have him. Yeah. So we're going to do what's necessary to make sure we're in position to be able to get him. there's nobody like that right now.

1:13:51There's nobody popping out on film. There might be some offensive tackle or some defensive tackles that we don't know about, but the skill position, the quarterbacks, no.

1:14:01Shannon Sharpe:They need to go get that Cowboys. They need to trade the two draft picks they got this year and to go up there and get that guy from Miami, Bang Jr. Hey, you need a hell raiser like that. Those are the type of guys that change your future, that change your fortunes. That's what they need. He's nice. Bane is nice. Hell yeah. But I don't like Dylan Gabriel throwing, letting Dylan Gabriel throw the ball 52 times. Bro, he threw four passes that had 10 yards of air distance. He completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today. So everything is checked down. He dinking and dunking or checking it down.

1:14:43Now, you know, dinking and dunking can work. It can work depending on the – You can be efficient digging and dunking, but at some point once the boys say you know what we coming up

1:14:54Shannon Sharpe:We can we go You got to be able to put the ball over the head though. Joe at some point time You got to put a man you got to put you got to put somebody on your feet You got to put fear you got to put fear you got to put you got to put you got to put Oh, if I don't bro, I'm I'm sitting on everything I'm used to play the Raiders and the Chiefs you had to throw it in the in the first ten plays You had to throw a goal ball or demo foes gonna sit right there On everything When you played the Raiders when you play had a team act and they had Albert Lewis So we went over there and they had Dale Carter in Kansas City and they had a What's I forget the guy's name Lord have mercy If you did not move them if you did not go ball even it is like look we're ain't trying to complete it, but you got to put fear on them because, boy, they ain't moving.

1:15:45Shannon Sharpe:They're not moving. First of all, we know y 'all not going to throw it deep. You know why we know y 'all not going to throw it deep? Because we know y 'all don't have a really offensive line that can hold up to throw it deep. And then second of all, if you do throw it deep, guess what, Ocho? You ain't got no running game, so what am I stepping up to stop the run for? So, with that being said, now, We squatting on everything. Prove to me I'm wrong. Hey, Junkins is hurt. Yep. He had 12 carries for 36 yards. He might have got hurt in the game. I was back and forth. Man, it's hard for me to stay interested in that right there, Ocho.

1:16:31Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. You know, I watched the series, and I was like, bro, what is this? Yeah, I thought they would have leaned on him a little bit more. So I thought, well, maybe he's hurt, maybe something's wrong with him. But if your quarterback isn't as good or you're not able to do some of the things you want to do to make sure you're able to be competitive, you want to hide him by running the ball a little bit more. You want to put that load and that onus on your running back to be able to get things going or to make it easier. Forget balance. You got to be a run-heavy team first. You got to be. I ain't trying to do no balance.

1:17:18Shannon Sharpe:You ain't got no balance with that right there. I mean, Jalen Ramsey had two sacks. Jalen Ramsey, I'm going to try to get me 10 sacks as a corner.

1:17:30Shannon Sharpe:Hebrick had two sacks. Highsmith had a half a sack. TJ had a half a sack. so they have six sacks total. But I don't know what Cleveland's trying to do. But whatever it is, they need to stop. You know what? It's almost unfair. It's almost unfair to have to judge Gabriel against that damn defense. It's almost unfair. I know it's your division opponent, but hell, it ain't that many people that look good against the goddamn Steelers. And the quarterbacks that do, you know, they're in conversations of the upper echelon of quarterbacks when it comes to being able to dismantle that damn defense.

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