Nightcap - Hour 1: Warriors SEND Clippers HOME + Shannon Gives Kawhi Leonard an “F” with Clippers

24:39Shannon Sharpe:It ain't the same if he throws an interception with two minutes left in the ball game in the fourth. So you're like, well, but they only had 17. The other team had 20. Okay, that's 17. So how did they get to that number 17? Look at the last three to four turnovers when they took place. Yeah, they were crucial. That was really the difference in the ball game. Yeah, those are crucial mistakes. You got to be able to execute. You got to be able to execute in those moments. And they were very uncharacteristic for the Clippers, too, because you don't dare. I mean, especially Kawhi and those late game situations.

25:09Shannon Sharpe:Yes. You know, that's why I can, I mean, I look at like the fatigue or, you know, we always talk about how the game is ramped up to another level when we get in the postseason and the playoffs. Yeah. And a lot could have had to do with, you know, Kawhi, especially down the stretch with him being a little tired, playing all the minutes. I just feel like, man, Draymond done a hell of a job. I can't hold you on that full quarter. Getting him tired. Oh, man, I'm talking about this. And maybe that's what it was, Joe. Maybe that's what, you know, because a lot of times you start to make mistakes when you get tired.

25:46Shannon Sharpe:The mind starts to drift. You know, all of a sudden you do uncharacteristic things. You see? Yeah. Draymond's still in there shaking everybody's hand in the arena. Is he? He's still.

26:02Shannon Sharpe:Man, Draymond. man, I'm going to have to go see a game because I hear the arena is very, very nice. You talking about their new arena? Yes. The Warriors? No, no, no. Oh, the Clippers. Clippers. Yeah, I heard it was nice too. Yeah, yeah. What do you think about going? Ain't no going over this year, Ocho. I mean, we can go in October, November. It's over for them. Ain't no more Ain't no more going this year. Okay. And, you know, look, T. Lou, my guy. Yeah. And I kind of wanted to see him. I kind of wanted to see him where I'm in, but he just can't get no – he just can't. I mean, Kawhi, when they had great opportunities, Kawhi get injured, and boom, PG got injured.

26:57Shannon Sharpe:PG could never stay healthy. Kawhi got injured, and that was it. Because you pinned all your hopes. You pinned all your hopes on those two guys, and those two guys were the least healthiest, and they're your best players. Yeah, yeah. And it's just hard to overcome. Yeah. And because you've given up so much, how do you build a team? How do you build a team? You're going to have to do something with Kawhi. You're probably going to have to stay in Kawhi. You're probably going to give Kawhi another three-year deal, $40,$45 million a year, Joe. Or do you go ahead and trade him or try to get some assets for him?

27:35Shannon Sharpe:Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on, Joe. You don't want to set yourself back, man. The problem is, I see what you're saying, Joe. But who going to come? I mean, it's hard enough to get people to come to that arena because it's so high. So who are you going to trade him for that people want? You know this is a superstar league, Joe. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't care what. They ain't coming to see no randoms. no it ain't coming but i ain't coming to see no randoms but if you go get you one of the young phenoms you know what i mean like kawaii got a lot of value on to where he could help a championship caliber team yes you know what i mean most times guys ain't teams that aren't willing to get off given his history yeah and given how many games he's gonna potentially now this year he played you know once he got back he played joe yeah but his history so what are we what are we making on We're looking at a guy that's, what, 35, 34, 35?

28:31With his injury history, do we believe he'll be more or less healthy moving forward?

28:40Shannon Sharpe:He'll probably be less, but I think you have to have great maintenance as far as, like, minutes restricting-wise. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, keep him in the low 30s, you know, to where he can, you know, finish out the season finish out the season for you. I just think playing tonight, 40 plus minutes, bro, that's going to be hard on the body when you ain't had to rev it up like that. That's all I be saying. Yeah. But the thing is, teams are very reluctant to give up them young star players. And Joe, when you think about it, right? You think about the Clippers. Let's say you do let Kawhi go.

29:18Then when you get that production that he gives you every night, when he's not hurt, when he's not injured, I understand we got a phenom. I ain't seen no phenoms like that. You know, in the ones. Well, hopefully, Joe, I know you're hoping.

29:30Shannon Sharpe:You're hoping you get you a shake. Yeah. Because when they gave up PG and OKC, what did they say? Where you going to get that production from? Yeah. Remember, PG was just in the running for MVP. Yeah. PG averaged like 28 points a game. And, you know, hey, Joe. What's happening? But the ones that are the phenoms, you know they're going to be gone, huh? I mean, it just depends. I think if you wait to after the draft, maybe you can package something like that. I don't know, man. I'm just saying, like, he still got a lot of, you know, good basketball left in him. And I don't think the clip is going nowhere.

30:08Shannon Sharpe:I'm just going to be honest with y 'all. I don't think they are either. It wasn't Kawhi. It was Paul George. It was what they had to give up to get Paul George. That was the reason. Yeah. Think about what you gave up to get him. Think about what you gave up and you still gave. You gave away and you gave up. You gave away potentially, but he got a chance. There's a 98 % chance he's going to be a two-time league MVP. There's a chance he'll be a two-time finals MVP. And you gave him up at the ripe age of 20, 22, tops. And then he wasn't able to stay healthy. If he could have stayed healthy when Kawhi was out, you might have could have.

30:53Shannon Sharpe:Okay. But then guess what? Both of them are out. Now what do we do? Both. B-O-A-F. Both. We're out. Now what we do? What we do now, Joe? Well, hey, look. That's why other guys got to step up in these opportunities. You ain't losing your two best players. So let me ask you a question. You believe Boston the number two seed if they lose Jalen Brown and JT? Well, listen. what about what about what about the Lakers losing A.R. and Luka? No they lost they lost they lost them after this situation so if they let's just say Luka and A.R. missed 55 games you think they did the fourth seed? They don't know that's what I'm saying so you say some other guys got to step up you're not losing your two best players I don't give it I don't care who it is you take any two best players off any team They not winning.

31:48Shannon Sharpe:They probably – Murray and Jokic, you take B.I. and you take Scottie Barnes, you take Cat and you take Brunson. Any two players you want, you take the two best players off any team, you believe they're going to make the playoffs? No, no. Not that they missed a significant amount of time to work. Right. And then think about what Kawhi was missing. Remember, Kawhi missed the whole season. Yeah. and he did he low manage Joe he missing 25-30 games they knew that coming into it he been low he been low managing since he been in San Antonio he has but I think the thing is they were okay with the low managing they just I mean if you think about it they went in the game and he steal the ball he go for a layup and he tears ACL Joe Yeah, I know.

32:42Shannon Sharpe:I can't plan for that. I mean, he had buzzed look. Yeah. Listen, I still think it'll be a team out there who will take a chance on trying to get him out. I don't know if they'll give up. I'm not giving up a whole lot for a guy. How old is Kawhi? 35?

33:06Shannon Sharpe:Kawhi was a rookie with LeBron in 2014. so 34 okay 34 year old Joe with an injury history

33:20hey

33:21Shannon Sharpe:look how he played towards the end of the season look at the numbers you do realize he missed like the first 20 games yeah I'm saying I said when he came back what he did but statistically this might be one this might be one of his best seasons it's not his best season It is his best season as far as scoring. I think I read a stat where he's the first guy in year 14 or later to have a career best scoring year. It's funny how that works, huh? Yeah. Timing everything. And understanding. Knowing that you might not be there. So what I'm going to do, I'm going to go out here and put up one of my best performances the rest of the season when I do come back, just in case.

34:05Shannon Sharpe:Me, personally, I don't think they'll trade Kawhi. considering what they gave up to get him. I don't think he wants to go anywhere. I mean, look, he wanted to come to L.A. And basically, he wanted to come to L.A. And they thought they had him with the Lakers. And then at the last minute, you know, it's like, okay, I kind of want to, you know, L.A. is L.A. Yeah. I'm still going to be close. I'm still going to be close to San Diego. I think he has a place. And I ain't going to say where the man has a place. But anyway, he closed by. But you're like, Clippers. I'm in L.A.? Yeah. Let's see, okay, what y 'all willing to do, what y 'all got for your boy.

34:45Shannon Sharpe:Uncle Dennis went in there and said, you know, hey, boom, boom, boom, boom, hey, you know, hey, what you got for your boy? Hey, allegedly, supposedly, you know, Uncle Dennis, you know, I need a little something, something, too, you know. You know what I'm saying, Joe? Hey, you want to talk to my boy, Joe? Hey, let me get your girl number. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to hook that up. You hook this up. You know, I got to get somebody to deal. Yeah, yeah. Okay, play the game. It's tough. And the Clippers, man, I just don't know. And they had that great opportunity. When they got, they had so much promise.

35:18Shannon Sharpe:You remember it was, they came out there with the jerseys 2-1-3. Yeah. Because, you know, Kawhi was 2 and Paul George. That's the L.A. area code. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay. Look how they got that thing going. Hey. They ain't get it done, man. If they were on a championship, they would have been standing on top of L.A. If you win one championship, it was worth whatever you gave up to get it. If you win one, the Rams did the right thing. You know why? Because Matthew Stafford has already delivered them a championship. If he delivers them another one, great. But whatever you gave up to get him, it was worth it because you got a championship.

36:04Shannon Sharpe:And that guy is going to keep you in contention every single year because you got that guy. Kawhi is the type of guy that can keep you in contention. Just need a couple of other pieces. I mean, I like Darius Garland. He gets injured a lot. Yeah. I really like Mathren. I really like his aggressive. He can play. Yeah. I had him picked. I thought this year in Indiana, I thought with Hallenberg being out, I thought he would have been a potential all-star look, but obviously that didn't happen. He got traded to the Clippers. Hey, he hit tonight too, didn't he? Yeah, he had 23, 7-11, 5-6 from the three.

36:43Shannon Sharpe:I'm talking about on the prize picks. We had him. Yeah. Ben Carroll let us down. Everybody covered by Ben Carroll. I thought we hit, man. Hey, matter of fact, speaking of who hit and who didn't, hey, Joe, didn't we make a little bet? On what? You lost. I took Philly, partner. Huh? I took Philly if we bet it. Oh, no, I don't think we bet them.

37:13Shannon Sharpe:Bet that Ocho, man. He's up, man. I swear that you was up. I'm just making a show. You told me you wrote it down on your phone or something. Yeah, we got the Knicks, the Knicks and the Hawks. Okay, okay. Check this out. Kawhi, in 2020, he was eliminated in the second round. 2021, eliminated in the conference finals. 2022, eliminating the play-in. 2023, eliminating the first round. 24, first round. 25, first round. 26, play-in. What grade do you give Joe and Ocho?

37:47Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to give for what? This year? Are you saying over the past? Give Kawhi Clippers an error grade. What do you give him his Clippers error? I'll give him a... A B minus? B minus? My ass. What you giving? I'm saying. F. A F? He got eliminated in the second round. He made the conference finals once. The play-in tournament. Eliminating the first round. The first round. The first round. The play-in. You said this season? You said this season? I said give his Clippers era a grade. He's been there. I'm not going. Copenhagen spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders.

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41:59Shannon Sharpe:He can't carry it. Okay, when they was in the bubble and they had that 3-1 lead, that should give them a less than a C by itself. Everybody was healthy. Kawhi was healthy. PG was healthy. Pat Babb was healthy. Everybody was healthy. 3-1 on Denver. That right there alone should do a number on him. Hold on. So, Unc, let me get this right, Don. So, you giving Kawhi a F. Based on his tenure, what grade could I give him? I mean. Because I got to grade you on what were the expectations versus what actually happened. well based on expectations depending on the team everybody would get an F then if that's the case everybody look here they didn't move heaven and earth to get everybody okay okay okay everybody wasn't a two-time finals MVP everybody wasn't a two-time defensive player of the year everybody isn't a top 75 player in the history of the in the history of the NBA he he have to be a guy See, that's the thing.

43:09Shannon Sharpe:People want to grade what? No, you have to grade certain players differently. Everybody doesn't get graded. I'm going to treat them all fair. But I ain't going to treat you all the same. Yeah. So let me ask you a question. Ocho, does everybody get treated like Kawhi? Does everybody have privileges like Kawhi? No, absolutely not. So why do we got to grade everybody the same then? A young bull has been a long wolf for a while out there. He's by himself now. Now, when you're doing the great And the play-in You lost the play-in on your home court

43:49Shannon Sharpe:Ain't none of my business I don't even know why I brought it up He ain't been to the I mean, let's see 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 So in seven years He's only made it to the conference finals Once He's only gone past the second round once. He's only gotten to the second round once. How long he been in LA? Seven years, since 2020. Joe, you trying to change your grade, Joe? He's been there. Actually, no. He's been there since 2019. Because 2019 is when it happened. He won the championship in Toronto in June of 2019. He signed with the Clippers in like July of 2019 and then led that season. Yeah, y 'all remember?

44:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They thought why it was hot. Bring them to L.A., Paul George. They thought they were going to strike and get a chip out of them boys, but it didn't happen. I just, look, if he had gotten a championship, you can't give him anything but a thing. Right. So anything less than a championship, he gets the F. He got it. Hold on. Even if he doesn't get your championship, can we get there? Can we play in a couple of finals a couple of times? We can't keep going out in the first. He can eliminate in the play-in. Hey, look, he got to get some help. I mean, don't get me wrong. I thought James played great.

45:43Shannon Sharpe:He was an all-star.

45:48Shannon Sharpe:I guess all you don't want to talk about that. So when they had James Hart, Paul, George, and Kawhi, and they couldn't get out of the first round, now what we doing? Let me take this earpiece out so I can hear you. Speak into the microphone a little louder. You ain't say nothing. You laugh. I mean, I'm saying, hold on. Did we forget about that joke? Did you forget about James Harden was there? I didn't. Oh, okay. I'm just joking. And so now do you want to regrade? Are you grading on a curve? What are we doing? No, that's what I'm giving them. I'm giving them a C, man. I'm giving them a C. This man gave this man a C with James Harden, top 75 player.

46:26Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Dwight Leonard, top 75 player. An MVP. Wow. Y 'all would be ashamed of yourself. Hey, you couldn't have been no teacher, man. You couldn't have been no teacher. When it comes to grading papers, everybody in the goddamn class would have failed. I'm going to give you what you earned. Hey, listen. I don't give you what you deserve. I can't say, you know what? I thought he was going to be one of my best students. You know what? Let me grade him on a curve. Even though we had a 30-question test and he got 22 of them wrong, let me go and give him a C+. That's what Joe doing. Joe passing everybody, and can't nobody read, and they can't nobody ahead.

47:08Joe's factor. Also, Joe factor in the circumstances Kawhi had to deal with. Not only injury, not having anybody else to help. My thing is. So what was James Harden doing?

47:20Shannon Sharpe:What was James Harden doing? He did his part. He helped out. He pitched in. He pitched in. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So James Harden pitched in. You said James Harden did pitch in? Yeah. And you still? And he got, hold on, when James Harden was there, James Harden just left. So in 25, they got eliminated in the first round. In 24, they got eliminated in the first round. In 23, they got eliminated in the first round. If I'm not mistaken, James Harden was there all them years. Yeah. When did James, as a matter of fact, give me James Harden because I don't want to misspeak. Hey, them two-man bands over with, man.

47:56Shannon Sharpe:Them two-man bands, they over with. Well, they had three because they had PG. Oh, so now you're saying PG ain't that? But PG, you know, he was dealing with a lot of injuries. He didn't even really play that much for the Clippers, for real. He went to the Clippers in 23. Okay. And then he left in the season. This year? Yeah. So James got there in 23.

48:23Shannon Sharpe:First round. 24. First round. 25. First round. He left trade deadline this year. playing tournament. I'm just saying. Hey, Chad, now y 'all see how all these students get out here and they can't read or write. But, hey, listen, check this out, though. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Considering, listen to this, considering the way the Clippers started this year, you ain't even had them making a play-in. You wouldn't yet? You ain't think they were going to make no play-in? No, no. And they got that hot streak where they won, like, 23 or 25 or 26 ball game, got right back into the thick of it.

49:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hold on. You know what? And I like this. I like that we're doing this now. So let's do the grade, too, even though they still playing. Excuse me. With Reeves and goddamn Luke out, what's LeBron's grade going to be when they get eliminated? Would it still be the same? Are we going to factor in? You want to grade LeBron's tenure at the Lakers? Yeah. Did they win a championship, yes or no? Yep. Are you counting the bubble? I'm just curious. They played it. Guess what? The Dodgers won the championship, and guess what they played? In the bubble. Fans won in the stadium. Guess who else? Everybody in 2020, guess why they won a championship?

49:53Shannon Sharpe:Was it a normal championship that they won, Joe? Baseball? basketball, football. So what about Tampa? Are we going to take away Tampa's? Because it was played under what circumstances, Ocho? How many fans showed up at the Super Bowl? Normally 75 ,000, 80 ,000. They had 7 ,000. So is it normal? I'm just curious. How we doing it? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's wait. Let's wait. Let's wait. I like the grading scale. I like the grading scale. So we're going to wait, you know, in that tenure. Hold on, hold on, hold on. This man just way to say, okay, without Reeves and without Luka, you do realize LeBron is the third option.

50:31Shannon Sharpe:He has to go back to the first option. I'm also factoring that Kawhi was the main option and had no help. In the playoffs, James Harden disappears. PG is... Whoa! Whoa! He's by himself. He's by himself. What you think the likelihood is... Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead and make your point. And LeBron ain't no third option neither. He just played that role because he had missed significant time. And when he came back, they were clicking on all cylinders. You know that man ain't no third option, man. He's not normally. But what was he on this team this year, Joe? He just played the role. He just played that role.

51:09Shannon Sharpe:Look, what role is he playing now? Obviously, he's been thrusting this role, but he's back at this comfortable position. He's back at the... Joe,

51:21Shannon Sharpe:whether you a fool, if you play a fool, whether you want or not, What are you? Oh, two. Man, that joke will play. That's why you got to be careful who you're arguing with. Because if you argue with a fool and people walk up and hear you two argue, they don't know which one is the fool. They don't say one is a fool, the other is a bigger fool or a damn fool. But we just know we got two fools arguing. So I just try to figure out. I just try to figure out where y 'all be so leading. That's why I'm glad. That's why I'm glad y 'all ain't no teachers. Can we pass everybody? Huh? Because we passed everybody.

52:00Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, you already know Joe passing everybody. Joe give an open book test every day. Yeah, I ain't trying to flunk nobody. I'm going to be honest. I want you to go and get on. I don't want to see you. Joe, I didn't flunk you. You did that. By not studying. By not doing your homework. By not turning your assignments in. I give the assignments. You do the assignment. I grade it. You don't turn it in. The assignment is wrong. I don't know what you expect me to do. Oh, because he ain't bad, though. Yeah, did they bring a championship? No. But considering the fact that when the man did play, the man put up numbers.

52:34Shannon Sharpe:Now, the team around him, were they good enough to win the title? Obviously not. But I can't say I ain't giving the man no F. I'm about to say, okay, all I'm going to ask you is this. When they had a 3-1 lead and Kawhi was healthy, PG was healthy, everybody was healthy. What you gave them on that one? Hey, man, they ran into a hell of a team. Damn! Oh, hold on. That hell of a team, that old Go James, the team that beat them, Go James, the gentleman swept them, you talking about that one? Yeah, a hell of a team. They were a hell of a team. Yeah, they ran into a hell of a team, man. Like them old folks here say, well, I'll be a monkey's uncle.

53:24Shannon Sharpe:Look, it's tough because you're grading him against what he did based on what the expectations were when he arrived. Because this was supposed to be a different Clippers team. As a matter of fact, you heard it. The Clippers had taken over the Lakers. I remember the first night Kawhi got there. There were people on television saying Kawhi Leonard made LeBron James look old. That this was Kawhi town. Y 'all heard it? I ain't making it up. Hey, they had the Lakers number for a while now. Until LeBron said, you know what, enough of this. And you remember what LeBron did to him? Hey, as a matter of fact, he did a number on Milwaukee.

54:13Shannon Sharpe:He put that thing on Giannis on a Friday and then came home that Sunday and took the game over. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. And from that time on, LeBron didn't look back. Yeah. I mean, he pulled up in his low rider, feed me. He got the crown. Yeah, didn't think I saw that. On the rear view movie, he had a crown. He had LeBron crown. He dangling. You saw it too. Ocho saw it. Joe, you saw it. they talk about Kauai Town yeah I know about Chinatown Korea Town I don't know nothing about Kauai Town I'm like well they're big deal hey they put they're putting the Lakers over they lap spanking them boys until it mattered until LeBron said enough of this until just like this year what he do you remember you remember Joe what happened this year what happened this year pull up LeBron number last time they played him he had like 30 something did a number on him, they were down and LeBron said you know what they got these people out here, these people got me bent yeah you better stop it and think about it Ocho got a senior citizen in class trying to get, and talking about what grade you gonna get the man 41 we're not gonna use that we cannot use 41 as an excuse.

55:41He's still playing. You do that all the time. Huh? You use that all the time. No, no, I don't. I don't. We just can't use that as an excuse.

55:51Shannon Sharpe:I tell you, hold on. He's still playing. He's 23. I remember we couldn't give him nothing in year seven at 34. So LeBron James 34. He's 41 now. That was seven years ago? Yeah. That put him around 20, that'll put him around 2017?

56:14Shannon Sharpe:2016. 2016, he was leading the team to a championship at 34. The first man in NBA history to lead every, both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocked shots. And had a triple-double in Game 7. You talk about the chosen one. You talk about the king, right? I'm saying at the same age at the same age than what you're talking about. Are we trying to compare Kawhi? Whoa. Hey, Joe, usually were they not saying at a time that Kawhi was better than LeBron? Did you hear that too, Joe? Did you hear that? At one point. Who said that, Joe? Who said that? Who said that? I think when Kawhi got bogged down with them injuries, you know, that kind of, that weighed heavy on him.

57:08Shannon Sharpe:And, you know, LeBron ain't really had no real injuries like that. Nah. He got, he got, I think his foot one year. Hold on, when did LeBron, hold on. LeBron got to, LeBron got to the Lakers. They lost that championship in 2018, and LeBron ended up going to the Lakers in 2018. In the summer of 2018, LeBron went there. So 2019, they ended up getting AD. LeBron led the league in assists. 25, 10, and 7 Yeah Yeah, he did that And he was the oldest man When he first got to LA First two years He was the oldest guy To have 27, 8, and 8 Nobody else had ever done that After the age of 30 Big old Jordan Russ Everybody did it before 30 He did it after the age of 30 I don't even know why I brought that up.

58:06Shannon Sharpe:That ain't even none of my business. Hey, look, we already know he a bad man. We ain't even – it ain't no discrepancies over here. I already know. And we talking about 41, Joe? Yeah, it's impressive. It's impressive to still see him play at this high level. That's why I'm excited to see what he going to do this weekend. Well, how about this here? What if we give Kawhi incomplete? Incomplete? Yeah, let's see what he get incomplete. If he stayed there a couple more years and get a championship, Yep. Let's just say it's incomplete. Hold on. If he going to get a championship, it's not going to be in L.A.

58:40Huh? It's not going to be in L.A.? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Unless he go to the Lakers. Oh.

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1:03:02Shannon Sharpe:he looking to move. What did he do in Cleveland the first time? Played the contract out, he dipped. What did he do in Miami? Played the contract out, he dipped. What did he do the second time in Cleveland? Play the contract out, he did. Every time in L.A., it was two plus one. When he got to the plus one, he always signed an extension. This was the first time that it wasn't in his hand. So what you're thinking? So what's the move going to be this summer? It's hard for me to see him leaving L.A. because he's playing with his son, and I think a lot of people take that for granted. You know what I mean?

1:03:39Shannon Sharpe:But I think that's an amazing feat. I enjoy watching them on the floor together, despite what everybody else may think. And Bronny getting better, Joe. He is, man. Bronny getting better. He is. Confidence. You know what? Confidence is something else, especially in professional sports. I know for sure in the NBA. It's everything. And once you gain that confidence to where you know you belong, Uncle Ocho, you start to become a different player, bro. Yeah. Your approach to the game, the way you move on the court, it's just... Yeah, it's just right. The way you walk, the way you carry yourself. You know I'm a bad man.

1:04:14Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's like confidence just oozes out of you. You know what I mean? And I think Bronny is definitely getting a, like, I think the absence with AR and Luka has kind of thrust him, has thrust JJ Reddick to have to kind of play him. You know what I mean? And, you know, he's been decent in his minutes. And I think he'll continue to get better. Yeah. If you notice, Joe, early in the year, he was getting those shots. He would drive the ball, kick it. now he get that ball he pulling up you know what that is though and he's shooting it with confidence yeah hey you know you know what joe and hunk what's that based on lebron's history on what he's done in cleveland what he's done in miami what he's done when he went back to cleveland and then obviously being in la this year not doing that extension and joe you mentioned the feet of being able to play you know with your son yeah now he's done that already he's done already.

1:05:09Now there's one place and there's one player in the NBA that LeBron has always said he wanted to play with. Who? And that will probably be where he would be next year. Right down the road, not that far from L.A. In Golden State? Yeah.

1:05:24Shannon Sharpe:Well, San Francisco, a nice little hump from L.A., but I get your point. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see it. Man, they got a lot of money tied up in guys that's kind of hurt, Ocho. You know what I mean? I don't know how Oh, you're talking about Jimmy and, you know, Moses. He got a nice – he got a nice – Moses ain't – without Patella telling him he ain't coming. Hey, you remember Sean Livingston had that? You remember how long it took Sean Livingston to come back, Joe? Yeah, he was a gruesome, though. Yes. You saw Moody had that indentation in his knee? I was like, oh, man. Ooh.

1:06:06Shannon Sharpe:But, hey, they got to reattach that thing. Yeah. That's a gruesome injury to overcome. Damn. That might be worse than the Achilles. You're probably right. I think you're probably right. What Brother Livingston did? How did it happen? Well, he tore everything in his needle. Yeah. It was bad. You had to look it up. I can't even. No, I can't see that. He didn't even talk about it, boy. It was in-game? Yeah, yeah, it was in-game. Hey, but speaking of Bronny, kind of jumping back on Bronny, you know what I think has helped him? What's that? Not only is he getting minutes, but they kept sending him to the G League down there.

1:06:50Shannon Sharpe:He's been playing, and, you know, he's been thriving, and I think that kind of, you know, he's kind of asserted himself a little bit to where he's played with a lot more confidence when they do put him in the game for the Lakers. So this is going to be a big series. Joe say, a ruptured Achilles tendon is generally considered worse than a patella tendon injury, often being described as the hardest injury to overcome for an athlete, as discussed. While both cause a significant dysfunction, an Achilles tear often leads to more significant long-term loss of explosive speed, jumping ability, whereas patella involves intense pain and severe knee instability.

1:07:30she just is like which is which is worse getting run over by a dump truck or a mac truck

1:07:37Shannon Sharpe:because what happens is that because you're in that boot so long you have atropies yeah now you're not able to now you're not able to get up but on the patella joe yeah hey i gotta deal with this knee tendinitis ain't nothing worse than that patella that patella tendinitis man boy hey listen you talking you talking to somebody who know you got to hey yes you got to stay in that split to keep your legs straight for two months, bro. I'm talking about two months. It's hard to take a shower, it's hard to do any of that. Yeah! Yeah, yeah. You had to get, hey, cause you know when you got engine, Ocho, I don't know if you had it, we had them big old bands, leather thing, plastic thing, and then we put, tape it up, so you don't get it wet, you don't get the cast, so you don't get the, you know, whatever it is, you don't get it wet.

1:08:23Shannon Sharpe:But it's hard, because like when you at the facility, you got all the showers to yourself. Now, Joe, you know, Joe got that big old space probably like this here with a shower. Got about four, five shower heads up in there. Joe, you know what I'm saying? Probably coming off there like Lake Victoria. With that big shower head. Yeah, I got that big shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They be cascading if they want to be beating up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Uncle Joe. What's that? as bad as that injury is and being worse than Achilles with the advancement of technology and as good as it is now when it comes to therapy and rehab you think it's still the recovery time for that is still as bad as it used to be you see guys coming back you see guys coming back from an Achilles look at Tatum he back in 10 months but them dudes doing round the clock work though Yes, they had hyperbaric chambers and all that stuff.

1:09:24Shannon Sharpe:They're doing everything. They're doing infrared, and they're doing all that stuff. They didn't have that therapy back then. Yeah, the guy at the YMCA, he is insurance. Oh, he's done. Oh, he does. Insurance is only going to pay for two weeks, two days after week. He got 20 sessions. He go twice a week, he got 20 sessions. I'm just telling you. Now, if your PT is really good, you got some really good insurance, they might give you an extra six weeks. Yeah, yeah. Now, if you want it out after that, you got to pay for it. Probably somewhere between$800 and$1 ,200 a session. Yeah. Yeah, damn. Yeah.

1:10:00Shannon Sharpe:Hey, them little two days after week ain't enough, though. I'm going to keep it real. That's why if you ain't doing nothing on your own, bro, it's going to be hard for you to get back. Meaning, like, it's kind of like guys who are only willing to get better when they go to practice. It means if you ain't doing nothing on your own, you ain't going to be that damn good. It's the same thing with PT. if I'm only looking to strengthen my knee when I go to physical therapy it's going to take me forever to get back boy I did them hip joke I got home at 1.30 2.30 I was walking in the yard I was walking around the yard I had my walker I mean I was walking in the yard at first and everybody was stopping and talking like man I thought that was you let me take my ass back and say hey hold on you were doped up though no no they just gave me anesthesia so I don't take no pain I don't do no pain pills man I don't have no major surgery you don't do no nope cause it called constipation and I don't want to be dealing with that even though I got that chocolate milk and apple remedy to go and get me right yeah the man who buys himself and has you stopped up but ain't no way boy I was so doped up I'm like you though I got out the car on my own my lady like boy you need to cause you know she was on me about that You know what I mean?

1:11:18Shannon Sharpe:I like to walk around. I mean, I don't like to be bed bound. You know what I mean? Man, that's the worst thing in the world, bro. Yeah. And probably about...

1:11:33Shannon Sharpe:Probably like in 10 days, man, I was walking tight. I mean, I was walking a Tonka man. Man, look. He was off leash. I mean, because I didn't want to run the risk of him jerking me. But I let him walk out, walking around the neighborhood. hey here for a while bring me that pain medicine cause look no no no no that thing babe but like I said I mean the pain medicine have you stopped up so I wasn't doing that but even though I got like if I did take some I get me like a glass or two of chocolate milk or some apple pills yeah I'd be hog chillin' clean oh oh hey you know how you cranking them new cars up and that water come out the tailpipe you know that thing yeah that'd be hey nice and clean Yeah, man.

1:12:18Shannon Sharpe:Like somebody smashed a pumpkin in the toilet. Man, ain't no way. Boy, ain't that pain wake you up in the middle of the night because you ain't took the meds. Boy, hey, you rocking it. I couldn't do it, Joe. What? And then I ended up having an allergic reaction to the medicine that they did give me. I ended up having to go to UCLA Medical. I don't remember you saying that. Nah, I ain't. Aw, man, I broke out with hives, Joe, man. My throat started closing up, and I couldn't be short as a breath. Yeah, nah, hey, hey, hey, treat me like I'm in the hospital. If I'm knocked out, just show me, wake me up every four hours so I can pop the EPL, boy.

1:12:54Shannon Sharpe:Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I ain't dealing with that pain, Ocho. Yo, nah, Joe, don't wake me up. It's like, Mr. Sharp, how you doing? I said, I was doing fine until you brought your ass in here. Yeah. Cut these lights. Joe, they cut these lights on. Mr. Sharp, it's time to get your mouth. Oh, man, come on, man. I said, ma 'am, if you don't mind, I'm good. I don't want no pain medicine. My vitals are fine. If that ain't no like beep, don't bring your ass back in here. Come on, man. Yo, I mean, hey, I mean, finally got me in a good old spot because, you know, you can't turn nowhere. Yeah. I'm just laying.

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1:14:18Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Yes, sir. I wanted to. I was going to do what he did, take a deep breath, and he pulled it out. Oh, man. That thing hurt. Oh, Lord. I mean, my thumb hurt not thinking about it. Damn. Oh, man, hey. I'm telling you, that's what my grandma said. My grandma's like, we go up there to see her because she had been in there for like three days because she ended up amputating her leg. She's like, hey, she's like, baby, prop me up so when they come here I can fool them. Let them think I'm okay.

1:15:02Shannon Sharpe:But she told me a little bit because they said, well, Miss Porter, you lost a lot of blood, and so we need to give you a transfusion. Man, Joe Ocho. My grandma said, I don't want nobody else's blood. She was just like, I don't want nobody else's blood. They's like, but Miss Portie, you really need it. She's like, she said, Libby, I don't want it. They's like, you're living? My sister was like, Granny, you need it. Man, they gave my grandma two pints of blood.

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1:17:12Shannon Sharpe:that's the Sunday school hands.

1:17:18Hey, they trashy Vito, so I understand it. Yeah.

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