Nightcap Hour 1: Wemby UNREAL Game 1 in WCF + SGA’s MVP Upset Wemby

19:52When you go into the game, you can't control him. So why you ain't worried about it? Hold on. And that's what I told both of y 'all. That's what I understand. Both of you are supposed to have elite ball knowledge, right? So you understand how special Webby is, huh, Joe? Yeah. You play the game at the highest level. Hey, um, you know the game. You've been watching the game since 1920, right? But I don't understand. We talked about this series, right? We talked about this series. We said, who's going to win this series. Both of y 'all had the nerd to pick the thunder. I said there was one common denominator.

20:19There's one person that they're not going to be able to stop no matter what they do. No matter how good they are. I understand how good Shea is. I know he's a two-time MVP. I know what Caruso can do even though it's a mismatch. I understand he's a gnat. He's like a fly. I'm talking about in the entirety of a whole series, do you really think they're going to... Darion Fox didn't even play tonight. Darion Fox didn't even play tonight. Imagine Imagine when he comes back. Huh? What are we talking about? As great as the Thunder is, offensively and defensively. De 'Aaron. De 'Aaron. I said it wrong?

20:50De 'Aaron. You know what? De 'Aaron. I'm going to just say De 'Aaron. How about that? There you go. There you go. Yeah. As great as they are, when De 'Aaron comes back, it's going to be a different ball game. That's why I don't understand. As great as y 'all are, when it comes to the game of basketball, I'm not sure. I'm questioning your IQ and ball knowledge from this point on.

21:08Shannon Sharpe:No, but Ocho, it wasn't about stopping him. At some point in time, Chet's going to have to score 16-18 to help offset some of the production. How is he going to do that when you understand what Castle and Vassar are going to do when they own him? And what we going to do when he own him? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Ocho, Ocho. Hey, Joe, I'm talking, Joe.

21:28Chad Johnson:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, slow down, Turbo. Slow down. Slow down. Look, look. Let me tell you something. Listen, whoa, whoa. Just pump your brakes. One game. Hey, listen. San Antonio look great. They look great. They match up well. They have everything to fight against OKC. They've been successful throughout the regular season, and they really, really believe that they're the better team. I think Wimby believes that, and that's all that matters. Hell, because he's making these guys around him so much better, and they're oozing with confidence. Yes, sir. You know, they have what it takes. But I just don't think OKC going to play this bad for the whole damn series.

22:06Chad Johnson:Hey, Joe, I got something. I got a question for you, baby.

22:08Shannon Sharpe:You're going to have to get off to a bell. I got a question for you. What'd you say? What'd you say? I got a question for both of y 'all, right? In a seven-game series, right? It goes game by game, right? Right? Yes. So that, and you just, hey, Joe, that's an excuse. Oh, in just one game. You said the same thing when the Knicks played the goddamn, uh, play, what's your team again?

22:25Chad Johnson:Man, come on, man. Damn. We talking about the spread. We ain't talking about the spread. I'm just saying. Hold on. Wait, let me finish. Let me finish. You said, oh, in just one game. And what happened? That's how it starts. That's how you get to a seven-game series. You play game by game. You saw a small symbol size of a goddamn Spurs team that's not even fully healthy because D-Fox didn't play tonight. Right. He used to play well. Shea did what he did. He was inefficient. If it take you that many shots to get that many points, we can live with that. Jalen Williams showed up tonight. You know, he coming off injury.

22:58He played well.

22:59Shannon Sharpe:I thought Jalen Williams played well, giving him my time. Yeah, come on, come on, now. But, Joe, hey, I need both of y 'all to do me a small favor. I need you to respect my ball knowledge from this point on.

23:08Chad Johnson:Yeah, okay, man. All right, all right. Hey, Joe, I don't like your attitude, Joe. Hey, I don't give a damn. I don't like your attitude. I don't give a damn what you like at this point. I'm just going to keep it 100. Okay, okay. Oh, well, partner. Hey, Joe, I tell you. Excuse me one minute. Before we finish, Joe, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to jump on your head like a chicken on the June bug and keep playing with me now. I want to see your little ass do it. Hey, man, listen. I ain't going to lie to you. Okay, Ocho. Yeah. Him, the San Antonio team scared me, man. They scared me. Hey, hey, hey.

23:38Chad Johnson:I'm talking about the things that Wimby is able to do. You look at Vassell, you look at Champagny, guys who just really understand the moment, understand their roles, and I'm talking about they play them to the T. These ain't no guys you could just go at. They compete both ends, 3 and D guys. They knock down big shots.

23:55Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Harper and Castle doing much of the ball handling duties,

23:59Chad Johnson:getting into the paint pretty much whenever they wanted to, for real, if y 'all just want to keep it 100. And if Wimby got a foot in the paint, just throw it by the rim. Hell, he gonna go, he gonna go tip it in. They have a very unique team. They know how to use Wimby to the tee, to their advantage, cause if I'm, if me and Wimby in the pick and roll, I'm ball handling, he's setting the pick and roll for me and he rolls, bro, you always gonna have something nice to get. You might have your wide open layup, your floater, cause they don't wanna give up the lob. It's just too many options, bro. They get so many wide open shots, just off their activity alone, picking up full court, making every catch tough.

24:38Chad Johnson:Hey, OKC, they in for a fight now. You lose that game one at home.

24:44Shannon Sharpe:Wimby is that quarterback. Wimby is Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. When you got him, you know everything's going to be okay. Man. Because I know he can score me. I know he can score me 40. I know he can give me 20-plus rebounds. But guess what? I know he can neutralize your entire team. You're going to be afraid. You see Jalen Williams, anybody else, that's a layup. Wait, did you forget who you must have forgot?

25:08Chad Johnson:Yeah.

25:10Shannon Sharpe:That ain't that a layup, when I'm close by, it ain't no layup. If I'm in a surrounding county, that's not a layup. If I'm in another state, that's a layup. But if I'm in a county next to yours, okay, try me if you want to.

25:23Chad Johnson:Hey look, they only had him down, they only got him down for three blocks, real tall. He probably ought to 15 to 17 shots. I'm just speaking, if not more. Like, you know, just by guys coming in there throwing up these wild shots, trying to get the ball over him, I think Hardenstein and Check, though, they got to be the difference maker, Uncle Ocho.

25:43Shannon Sharpe:Well, look, I'm not counting. I'm not looking. Hardenstein, anything Hardenstein give me points-wise, I graciously accept. I'm looking at him to rebound. Now, the problem is is that you saw early on they took him out and brought A.J. Mitchell in. Had to.

25:59Chad Johnson:Got to open up the floor.

26:00Shannon Sharpe:So they're like, well, because there's really no one he can guard because you won't check on Wimby. And so now you got Hardenstein chasing a little guy. You got him trying to chase Champagny, or you got him trying to chase Abassell. I don't want that.

26:16Chad Johnson:You don't want that. But also, Hardenstein isn't an offensive big, and if Wimby get to guard these guys who can't shoot outside the paint, it makes the Spurs' defense more suffocating. Suffocating. That's why you see, even look at Minnesota, how they got off to all them slow damn starts. You know what I mean? Now you look at OKC. I thought Hardenstein shot that one floater. That was the only shot he shot, and he missed it. It's like, damn. The touch that he probably thought he needed to put on there, he had to put a little more. He missed it. He didn't look at the goal again.

26:50Shannon Sharpe:You're like, hell, I had to touch the batters when I shot it? Hell, he hold his hand up, he 10 feet. He jumped, he 12 feet. So what hell? I couldn't see the basket. What do you want me to do? But this was an unbelievable performance. Really good game. And like you said, and Chad has struggled, especially with the exception of really the last game against the Lakers. I mean, against the Lakers series, that was the only game that Shea looked like Shea. All the other games, he was very – I mean, you're talking about a guy that shot 55 % from the floor. He didn't look anything but that against the Lakers with the exception of the last game.

27:27Shannon Sharpe:But like you said, but if you look at them, the Spurs got up to this great start. And what makes them so dangerous, they down 10. Guess what? Boom. They shoot past them. They up three. They go back up seven. Boom. We got a tie ball game. I'm like, that's what makes them so dangerous because no lead is safe. They come at you. And guess what? They'll get a two, a three, a three. And you're like, damn, we were just up nine. How are we only up one? It was every time, every time the Spurs make a run, OKC had an answer. Every time OKC make a run, the Spurs had an answer. But, Joe, you're right. The Spurs believe they can beat this team.

28:07Shannon Sharpe:And they played the regular season knowing that, look, in order to get to the destination, look, if you go into Grandma's house, you got to pass the Big Bad Wolf. The OKC is the Big Bad Wolf. and grandma's house is the NBA finals. And now we want to get there, we got to go past her. We just got to it. It is what it is. So guess what? We're going to spend some time in the regular season whipping on your ass because we want you to die. And you can say, oh, it don't matter. Regular season don't matter. It matters to the team to beat your ass because it gives them confidence. That's why I say, Ocho, I don't want nobody to try to D me up because now he going to get – man, you see, I covered you up today.

28:50Shannon Sharpe:No, you didn't. Go ahead, Ocho. I was going to say, too, also now, with great understanding, you talk about getting to Grandma House and understanding you got to get through, you know, the big bad wolf, right? Yeah. When it came to the regular season, when the Spurs and the Thunder played, what was the series, huh?

29:05Chad Johnson:4-1. 4-1. Who won the series 4-1? Spurs. Okay, so again. The Spurs won 4-1 for the poor one. 4-1. Now, again, let's go back to ball knowledge, huh? Let's go back to that. Now, it comes to the playoffs. For some reason, when I asked you two yesterday on the show, who are you picking in the seven-game series between the Spurs and the Thunder? Can you please tell the chat who you guys picked? I picked OKC. I picked OKC. OK, I just want you all to see, you know, why I have elite ball knowledge and have been right the entirety of the playoffs. Man, listen, I'm looking at the Russ versus the rest, you know, from OKC.

29:44Chad Johnson:They done swept through this. They ain't had no challenge, Ojo. They ain't had no. Hold on, Ojo. So are we making excuses? I ain't making excuses. Rob Markman, You know what I'm saying? They've been off for an extended period of time. Rob Markman, Oh, okay, okay. So that's your excuse. It was Russ, right? Rob Markman, And San Antonio just recently just got out of a pretty grueling series. Obviously, you know, they were in control, but they on a high right now. They have momentum. They playing great. It was a great win. Hey, it was great entertainment for me, you know, watching the game, but I still got OKC winning the series, bro.

30:15Rob Markman, Okay. Just hold that thought. Now, let me put that in my notes. As you said, it was Russ. So when is game two, Unc? so you said it was russ in game one so when they lose again in game two i'm gonna make sure i bring uh you saying it was russ uh they were on a high uh they got their trench coats and their ap watches maybe that was holding them down a little bit you think that might have been a proper night

30:35Chad Johnson:they could have played a part in it you know okay okay hey it's been a lot going on over the past couple days man you know okay okay so the reason they go at home is because they celebrating Okay.

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34:55Shannon Sharpe:Stephen Castle is the first NBA player to record a 10-assist, 10-turnover game in the same playoff game since Steph Curry had 11-11 in Game 1. Alex Caruso, 31 points off the bench. His 31 points is the most points off the bench in the conference finals since Tyler Hero in 2020. A Western Conference game going to double overtime was the first time since 1976 when the Spurs, excuse me, the Suns and the Warriors, the Suns end up winning that series. That's when Gar Hurd, and if I'm not mistaken, they lost to the Celtics. And Gar Hurd hit a shot from half court to end up sending it to overtime. And if I'm not mistaken, I think David Cowens was the MVP of that series.

35:37Shannon Sharpe:Cowan's model no I think Kareem won MVP that year but look it up I think if I'm not mistaken I think 76 with the Suns and Boston in the NBA finals and I think Boston ended up winning that series hey but it was it was I mean Joe you can you ask ask can she ask what's that who played who played the big part of that What happened? Celtics beat the Suns.

36:08Chad Johnson:What happened?

36:11Shannon Sharpe:Celtics beat the Suns. You know, they had that great team. They had Jojo White, Dave Cowens. They had a nice little -

36:19Chad Johnson:And when, what year was this?

36:22Shannon Sharpe:Paul Westphal. 76. Paul Westphal, if I'm not mistaken, Garherd.

36:30Chad Johnson:I wasn't even born. I ain't, hey, I know the names, you know, but I ain't, you know. I mean. What you you was born, Joe? Born in 81. 80? Goddamn, Joe. 81? Yeah, I'm an 80s baby. Yeah, I was born in 68. Boy, you young, boy. Man, stop lying for no damn reason.

36:52Shannon Sharpe:Man, this game here, I'm just sitting there watching Wimby. Now, I know, because I see it at halftime. He has 14 to 10. I said, well, he gonna get a 20. I was like, is it possible for him to get a 30-20? And then when they went to overtime, I said, well, he might get a 40-20. And then when they went to double overtime, I said, ain't no doubt in my mind he getting a 40-20. Now my mind's shifting, Joe. Is he going to get a 40-30? I think because he don't have these games like that often,

37:22Chad Johnson:but when he does, they seem unbeatable. I'm not sure, you know, he'll have another game like this in this series. Maybe he will. but I didn't really think OKC played that bad, especially the contributions that they got from their bench, fellas. I thought Wallace, McCain, and Caruso gave them great minutes, but San Antonio, bro, Wimby just too overwhelming, man. He opened up the floor with so many. Look, how many threes did they shoot, huh?

37:50Shannon Sharpe:What they were, they were 13? They shot 43. They only made 13.

37:53Chad Johnson:But they had so many, they were wide open. But they had some great looks. Yeah, I mean, by him being in the paint, he causes so much attention. bro you kind of got to you know shriek your defense to kind of help yeah and you build out so you give up a lot of threes that's the scary part hell because they weren't they weren't they wasn't on fire tonight but they made some big ones he was uh he was unbelievable he was he was

38:18Shannon Sharpe:unbelievable tonight there's nothing else you can say about it i love the way he approaches the game he wants to be great he's telling him he wants to be great he's willing to put the work in and the sacrifice that comes along with being great. You cannot. There's nothing not to like about Victor Wimby-Yama. Yeah, I wish he was American so we're going to get some MVP sometime soon because I don't know when the next American is going to win an MVP. I'm going to be God honest truth. Between Jokic and Shea and now Wimby on the scene, ain't no telling when we're going to win another MVP. Who's the next guy that can win an MVP for the American?

38:52Ant-Man?

38:53Chad Johnson:I don't think it's going to be hard for anybody outside of Wimby because he's going to affect the game on both sides of the floor, meaning he's probably going to lead the league. Well, not probably. He's going to lead the league in blocks for damn show. You know, he's probably going to average a double-double, which he'll probably average about 12, 13 rebounds on top of 25, 26 points.

39:15Shannon Sharpe:And the thing is, the man had nine offensive rebounds a night. He had the same number of offensive rebounds as the Thunder had as a team. They were plus 21 on the rebounding. He had more rebounds by himself, 24, than the OKC starters had, 23.

39:32Chad Johnson:That's because when he down under that damn basket, it take more than one guy to box him out. Hell, we got the game box out because if the ball come in his vicinity, hell, he going to tip it a couple times. Hell, that's two, three rebounds, offensive rebounds right there. Then he tip it in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Hey, it's tough, bro. I see the struggle that OKC is having just by defending him. Even if, hell, I think he's more dangerous when he don't shoot the ball, if you just want me to be honest. Meaning, like, offensively, if one of them guys take long threes, he's able to keep the possession alive or tip backs.

40:08Chad Johnson:It's just too much, bro.

40:11Shannon Sharpe:And to think about it, he only attempted one three because, you know, sometimes he can fall in love with the three. Because remember that game? What was that? The first game that he played against OKC was over? from the three-point line, Joe and Ocho. Tonight he's like, nah, I got y 'all minions on me. Hey, hey, hey, them Lilliputians, they can't do nothing to me. They can't do nothing. It ain't enough. And like I said, I'm like, damn, this man got to be eight. Do you see how he towers over Chet? Chet is legit seven foot. This man towers over Chet.

40:46Chad Johnson:The man ain't got to jump over a phone book to dunk. He barely getting off the ground when he dunking on him.

40:54Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, hold on. He posted up, and I'm looking at Chet. I said, Chet must have stumbled or something. Ain't no way that man had, he had with his shoulder. I'm looking at Chet. Hey, hey, hey. Man, if young fella can stay healthy, Joe, boy, the NBA got their hair. they got for another 10 15 years as long as you they got their hands san antonio they got their

41:25Chad Johnson:hands san antonio they they you know they got a chance to create another dynasty man yeah hey go ahead joe y 'all thunder got to get it together on they got to get together you need more points you know having caruso duty there coming off the bench that 31 was nice Lou Dort, you got to come to the party. Shit, you got to come to the party. Only having seven shots ain't going to get it done. Lou Dort, I mean, listen. Dort is a joke. More of a defensive guy, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Correct. Yeah, I understand you good out there on that wing, but maybe you got to give me something because five ain't going to do it.

42:01Because you got to think, if everybody on the Spurs, right, if everybody in the sport, that D-Fox ain't going to play tonight. So now you got to count for him coming in and having 15, 18, once he come back in game two. Joe, I'm telling you, y 'all boys in trouble. And I know both of y 'all are going to say it's only one game. It's only one game, but you got a small sample size of what it's going to look like for the rest of the series.

42:25Chad Johnson:They're going to play better. And I think the thing is that the Spurs got to feel good.

42:31Shannon Sharpe:Ocho and Joe, when it comes crunch time, the ball's going to be in Fox hand. I don't believe Fox makes some of the mistakes that Harper and some of the mistakes that Castle makes with the ball.

42:38Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, listen. I know Harper fumbled that ball a few times tonight, but he only had one turnover. To be a rookie, to be dressed in the starting lineup, to be a rookie, to play those type of minutes under that type of pressure. Pressure. Big plays after big plays, defensively, offensively, getting to the rack. Bro, that's impressive, man. That's impressive. Hey, this young dude. That's what I love about him.

43:00Shannon Sharpe:He was aggressive, Joe. I mean, look at him and Castle. Both of them had seven free throw attempts. Wimby. Wimby had 25 shot attempts, and he had 13 free throw attempts. I can live with that. because now you know why he had so many free throw attempts? Because he wasn't about bull-jiving that in the three-point line. Yeah, yeah. So now I can put the ball on the floor. And, man, he was making – man, look here. That turnaround. And the thing is, the ball come off all in one motion. He catch it and shoot it and don't even come back down.

43:31Chad Johnson:The man eye to eye with the rim, bro. He eye to eye with the rim. But, Uncle, speaking of what you was talking about, Dylan Harper and Castle. Hey, man. That's why I tell y 'all the Spurs, they're going to have a good problem. They're going to have to figure out what they're going to have to do. I'm saying in years to come when it comes to Fox, obviously, you know, for them to win this game without Fox, bro, it says a lot about your team, man. You know.

44:02Shannon Sharpe:See, that's what I'm talking about. Because think about it. We talked about this in the last half of the season. the Thunder was still winning games without Shea. Do you know how solid your team has to be?

44:14Chad Johnson:Yeah.

44:15Shannon Sharpe:To win a game without its best player? Man, your team gotta be deep. They gotta be special. And the guys gotta be willing to step up for the challenge. And I think this team has all the making. They have all the making to push OKC or to be an OKC. they understand their best player. They know who it is. They came up to, they're coming up together. Wimby was there first. And then here come Castle. And now you got Dylan Harper. You got Vassell. You got Champagny. They very close. I mean, for the most part, they're close engaged. I think Harper is probably a year younger than Wimby. Two years younger than Wimby.

44:58Shannon Sharpe:Castle's probably a year older than Wimby. Maybe two. But they're right there in close proximity. So guess what? They're almost like when you plant a crop and all the things. Yes. That's what the Spurs have done. They sow these seeds and these guys are coming up together. You look at Castle and college at UConn and you're like, damn. And you're like, okay. Because you watch him. You want to know one thing at UConn. You're going to play hard. Or you're not playing for Danny. Yeah. You're not getting your ass on the court. So you're going to play hard. So we knew he played hard. And, Joe, I don't think OKC realized he a two-foot jumper.

45:40Shannon Sharpe:So, you see, when he went down the line, I think they thought, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. You let him get to the line, man?

45:45Chad Johnson:He going to scratch his back. He going to scratch his back with that thing. He going to scratch his back with it. Hey, listen. You know, we marvel about how OKC got great perimeter defenders, and they do. But, damn it, the Spurs got some guys who, hey, man, they showed me. Cal State Harper showed me something tonight, man. I'm talking about getting to their spots whenever they want to, how they want to, playing big. Hey, man, Spurs got a really, really nice team. Now, I do expect OKC to play a lot better, but the Spurs got a nice team, bro. I enjoy watching those guys play.

46:21Shannon Sharpe:But here's the thing. You're expecting Shea to play better. I'm not expecting Caruso to give me another 31-11-19 shoot an 8-14 from the 3. I ain't expecting that. So he's going to have to play better. I think there's a better chance that he shoots a better percentage from the floor than Caruso giving us another game like this. I think Jalen Williams didn't play bad considering how he was off that last eight games, Joe. You got to think, he didn't play bad. He was 11-25. He was 3-3 from the free throw line. He had seven rebounds. He only played 37 minutes. So you see that he was on a minute count.

46:53Shannon Sharpe:But now, hey, we got a chance to win this game, and we need to win this game. Bro, you got to play these last – hey, you got to play these last 10 minutes.

47:00Chad Johnson:His ass going to be hurt tomorrow, though. You know, hey, so my thing is the first game, you off adrenaline. You know, body probably feeling good because you ain't really – you ain't played in a minute. But that damn second game too, he probably going to be – he probably be a step slow. Hey, and Shea, they're not going to give you the call.

47:20Shannon Sharpe:You saw early on, Joe. He's flailing, throwing his hands up in there. Hey, referee, get your ass up. Get on down there. They're about to get a layup now. You can sit down here if you want to. We come back down here, but that ain't no problem. I like the fact that the refs letting him play. Let him play. You know, some of those calls, some of those calls are calls that Shea going to get during the regular season. I'm not going to joke. Yes. You know, and come to the playoff time, especially in a series like this, those refs, hey, we playing ball. I'm not calling everything. Now, if it's egregious, I got you.

47:50I know.

47:51Shannon Sharpe:All that tiki-tik stuff. But I think Chet needs more than seven shots. I don't know if J-Dub needs 25 shots. I mean, and Shea missed a couple. So, hey, man, you saw Shea had one right there point blank. That joker saw women hit the side of the rim.

48:08Chad Johnson:That's what I'm talking about. You know, although he may not block your shot, hell, he going to make you think twice about it. Like, man, I want to shoot off the glass door. Let me get it up real quick so his ass don't get over here. Hey, Uncle Joe, when it comes to Caruso, right, he was with the Lakers and the Bulls. Can you do me a favor? When it comes to a player like that, as valuable as he makes himself? Is he one of those players that deserves a MAAC contract? What do the numbers look like when it comes to a player like that?

48:38Shannon Sharpe:No, he's making good money, Ojo. The fact of the matter, you got to realize, Chicago, the Lakers wouldn't match a$36 million offer. How could you not match based on what he's able to do offensively and defensively? As Rob Palenka. That's a question that's for him. Especially what he could do defensively. You had an elite defender, a 3 and D guy, played great alongside Braun. That is a question you should probably ask Rob Pelinko. I'm confused, Joe. And listen, when it comes to Caruso, right, it's not just tonight. It's not him just doing this tonight. Hell, the goddamn Thunder won the goddamn NBA, the National Championship.

49:19National Championship. The NBA Finals last year because of the way Caruso played.

49:24Chad Johnson:Yeah.

49:25Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you remember the last game? and a lot of the games, who was he guarding? Natola Jokic. He was battling Jokic. That's crazy.

49:36Chad Johnson:Getting up on him.

49:38Shannon Sharpe:And the thing is, unselfish player, he does all the dirty work. He going to take the charges. You see him come from behind, block a couple of shots. He's not afraid of the moment. The corner three, knock those down. Remember, Joe last game four, Lakers raced out to that lead. They brought him in. He hit 3-3 in the first quarter. Yeah. To put a, to put a run back in. The problem with Thunder got, though, I like how he fights Wimby.

50:03Chad Johnson:But once Wimby starts low and they set that cross pick for him to come up, it's like, hell, once he get two feet in the paint, if I throw it by the rim, ain't nothing Caruso can do for that.

50:13Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nothing nobody can do.

50:15Chad Johnson:Hell, do you see him doing, he did a hard sign, he did a chest,

50:19Shannon Sharpe:he did that, ain't nothing nobody can do.

50:20Chad Johnson:That's what I'm saying. You got to try to find a way to keep that boy out the paint, man. and hey. It's hard, Joe, because the thing is is that he'll start

50:32Shannon Sharpe:and then guess what? He'll spin back to the rim and they throw it up. They put up their limb feet. It's a dunk.

50:38Chad Johnson:It's a wrap.

50:39Shannon Sharpe:I want to beat him to the point, but if I get too aggressive, he's going to spin off me.

50:44Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey.

50:46Shannon Sharpe:I was like, well damn, if I do, how do I defend coach? What you want me to do? I know once he catches it, I'm an ish for shape but if I try to intercept him at the point all he's going to do is hit me and spin now what am I going to do

51:06Chad Johnson:you better hope you got some help coming

51:08Shannon Sharpe:they got the floor spaced can't get no help

51:12Chad Johnson:OKC has to limit the guys around him no way around it I mean for them to advance and get out this series you can't let these guys get in double figures the champanies, the vassals, the facels. I think Harper going to get his head. He aggressive. He went eight for 20. I like it, too. I'm talking seven steals. Did you see that? Yeah. That man had seven steals, bro. Six assists, 11 boards, 24 points. I love everything about him.

51:41Shannon Sharpe:And only had one turn. And one turn.

51:44Chad Johnson:I love everything about his game, bro. It looks like he's really enjoying the moment, too. You know, just competing, playing against some of the best guard. Look, he just competed against Ant-Man, now against Shea. Like, hey, he holding his own right there.

51:59Shannon Sharpe:The thing that what makes them so good against the Thunder, they got three guys that can defend at an elite level too.

52:07Chad Johnson:Yeah.

52:08Shannon Sharpe:You got Vassell. You got Castle. Champagne can defend. Harper, everyone, he will buckle down. The only guy that's really – you know, Keldon Johnson is not a defender. He'll battle, but he's an offense. You see how he come in and get quick points. quick. He ain't there for the round. He getting right to the action.

52:27Chad Johnson:Yeah, he makes it.

52:28Shannon Sharpe:And that's what you have to, but like you said, Joe, when you got Wimby, Wimby's going to open everything up because so many eyes go on him. But you can't help because now when you get help, he's a willing passer. And guys are wide open in the corner.

52:45Chad Johnson:And your star players in basketball, man, that's what you enjoy most. I know that's what I enjoy most about watching you start, guys. I don't like guys who sit there and exhaust all their damn options first and then throw you a grenade with three, four seconds on the damn clock. Now you got to jump.

53:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. Now you want me to make some chicken salad and you ain't bringing me no chicken.

53:05Chad Johnson:Yeah, now I got to go into my bag and pull something. You know what I mean?

53:08Shannon Sharpe:Like, damn that. Come on, man.

53:10Chad Johnson:Wimby, he don't play like that, man. He plays the right way, and he understands the attention that he brings. So he's always looking cross-court to that corner pass to get Vassal and championing these guys wide open shots. I just think he kind of – I think, you know, for a guy who's 22 years old, he really understands the game and how it should be played from a team's perspective in order to be successful, meaning he knows he has to keep these other guys involved, just for the game to open up and be a little easier for himself. And you don't always get that, bro, from a 22-year-old because what?

53:43Chad Johnson:Everybody out here trying to score 50. I think he just naturally within the floor of the game, and he's going to score points.

53:49Shannon Sharpe:Let it come to me. Yeah. You know, sometimes they say the Nile Crocodile, they can go a whole year without eating. He don't get up and chase no food. He sit right there in the water and hold. Now, I know y 'all want that green grass up there. Yeah, yeah. And I know the migration's going to happen. I'll be right here when you come back next year. I ain't going nowhere. And to get, you know, seven, eight meters, I'm assuming probably about seven meters. Some six and a half, seven meters. Weighing almost a ton. So yeah, I'm good. Y 'all, hey, now you like, damn. They know what's in that water, but they gotta lure the grass.

54:31Shannon Sharpe:They gotta take that chance.

54:33Chad Johnson:Yeah.

54:33Shannon Sharpe:That the grass, man, it's taller. Yeah, yeah. Ain't no grass back there where we came from. That's why we came this way. And he know that, like, hey, hey. The only way, come on. So, and that's Wimby. Wimby's, hey, come on in here. Y 'all know y 'all got to come. That basket look at me.

54:56Chad Johnson:It's right there. Hey, hey. Go ahead.

55:00Shannon Sharpe:I ain't gonna do, hey. You know, Wimby be squatting shot, you know, like a little kid playing his dad, and he put it up there.

55:07Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

55:09Shannon Sharpe:That's exactly what Wimby would do. Yeah, that's what it look like, seriously. They're like, yeah, I brought.

55:13Chad Johnson:Get that out of here. Hey, I look at the shots that guys work on in the summer. Hell, some of the stuff I even do in the summer. Man, they don't work on Wimby, bro. Them long hooks off the glass. He coming to get all that. You know what I mean? Boy, hey, you better get in that paint. You better be looking for the next man to pass the ball to. Yeah, that man ain't playing. You ain't getting nothing free down there when he down there, boy. Woo. Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and now generated assets, which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI.

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59:42Shannon Sharpe:And that's the thing, though, Joe, is because you say things that you work on. How do I work on shooting a shot 13 feet high? So what you do, you say, you know what, hey, Joe, what you going to do? Hey, yeah, today, I'm just working on catching a 13, shooting on 13 foot shots. or I'm working on the junior sky hook Magic Johnson. And a junior sky hook that Magic throw, he throwing that out of him. Your best chance is the Kareem sky hook because Kareem had the shoulder onto you and he was throwing it back here. But if you throw Magic's, oh, he throwing that out of there.

1:00:18Chad Johnson:And he's special, bro.

1:00:20Shannon Sharpe:Wimby said after the game he was for sure motivated by SGA got the MVP over him. Stephan Castle on Wimby, best player in the effing world. I mean, you really can't argue it. You can't argue it. Actually, you can argue it, depending on who you ask. It's all about perspective. You talk about the best player in the world, Wimby comes up. SGA. Some people probably will throw Jokic in there. And outside of that, that's about where the goddamn buck stopped. And that's where the buck gonna stop for the next five, six, seven years now. you know when Giannis is healthy you know Giannis giving you 30 and 13 and he plays defense now he's not the defender that he once was but the but but but Wimby because he could do so much he could Giannis ain't that still ain't develop no shot he don't really have no post all Giannis trying to do is get downhill he's trying to get downhill he's trying to sneak through cracks he ain't he done develop a little

1:01:23Chad Johnson:midi just a little midi a little bit A little bit. I mean, he'll shoot, hey, hey, hey. Like on Harlem night, stop shooting that little, he'll shoot it every night. He'll shoot that little mid-air night there. Oh yeah. I know what you talking about, but.

1:01:37Shannon Sharpe:If he get, the thing is, Joe, if he gets hot, he'll have confidence to keep shooting it. But for the most part. He coming down here like a train, right? I don't understand, like, bro, the way you can drive the ball, just imagine if you develop the three, or you develop the midi. Right. He be unguardable, Joe.

1:01:56Chad Johnson:Hey, look, that's why Wimby's so unguardable. Look at that damn 35-footer he shot to tie the game, bro. Hey. With confidence. I'm talking about it, and there was plenty of time on the clock. I'm like, hold on, what he... Yeah.

1:02:09Shannon Sharpe:Coach would probably holler, no, son, no. Good shot. Good shot, Sean. That's what I'm talking about. Good shot. Get back. Get back, y 'all. Hey, you know, playoffs. Hey, listen, I don't have much experience in the playoffs, but you have experience. Joe, I'm sure you have experience as well. And it's all about moments. And young bull to be that young. Yes. Young bull to be that young. In that moment, to take that shot from that far out. Boy. Cojones, boy.

1:02:35Chad Johnson:Hey. Ice in his veins. Well, listen. We only got, it's only four teams left playing. You know, so it's going to be all eyes on you. Each game that you play, you're going to be the only game that night.

1:02:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And to be able to show up in this fashion on the road without one of your top guys in Fox who's averaging 18, 19 points in this playoff. Man, this young Spurs team, bro, they got something special on their hands, fellas.

1:03:04Chad Johnson:They got something special on their hands. Y 'all keep saying that. Come on, bro. Damn, Joe. Help me understand. Y 'all, I'm just listening, y 'all. they still young Ojo they still young now I understand so I'm saying is that why did you just pick the Thunder to win based on what they did last year is that why y 'all I'm just trying to get it better listen I'm listening to y 'all talk about Wimby and glowing regards on how special he is he is okay and for some reason y 'all still pick the Thunder to win the goddamn series yeah

1:03:40Shannon Sharpe:I think look Ojo it ain't over we'll see Wednesday night we'll have another conversation Wednesday night about the Thunder Spurs. Dylan Harper in game one, 24 points, 11 rebounds, 6 assists, 7 steals, most by a rookie in a conference final game. The first player since Larry Bird with a 20-10-5-5 conference final game. Harper is a rookie. Bird was in his second year. Bird was probably 24, 25. Because you've got to realize, Bird originally went to Indiana. So, you know, you've got to go to Indiana. Excuse me. Yeah, Indiana. transferred to Indiana State, you know when you transfer, you got to sit out.

1:04:20Shannon Sharpe:So, Berg was probably, this kid is 19.

1:04:23Chad Johnson:Man, listen, if Harper would have been on another team to where he could just do what the hell he want and they featured him in the offense for real, he would have been up for rookie of the year, period, point blank. He got too much in his game. But he went into probably, if you're a rookie, he probably went into the best situation you can go to. You know, I'm saying from a standpoint that he has so much game, bro. He can blend right in. And he can be pedestrian at times. And when you need him to be great, he can be great. Hey, do you remember when Fox, the last time Fox missed a game in that Portland series, it's two guys, Harper and Castle.

1:05:00Chad Johnson:Both of them had 30. You know what I mean? I think it was game three or game four. But, hey, he's capable, man. He showed great moments throughout this postseason, bro. Like, he ain't scared of the moment. He's embracing it. And he going at his man, bro. Hey, I love his energy, how he play. He play with it. He seemed like a quiet kid, but he real demonstrative at the same time. Like, he letting you know he there.

1:05:26Shannon Sharpe:You know what I like, Joe? Is that he went to San Antonio because they're going to develop him. Because sometimes you can go to a situation where you develop bad habits.

1:05:34Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:05:35Shannon Sharpe:In a situation. Think about it. Name the player that went to San Antonio that had bad habits. Look at Duncan. Look at Parker. Look at Ginobili. Look at Kawhi. Look at Wimby. Look at Castle. Look at Harper. The track record is there. The same guy, R.C. Buford, drafted him. For the most part, Pop coached him. Because remember, Pop got sick last year, right?

1:06:06Chad Johnson:I think they hit him in the front office now.

1:06:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:06:09Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:06:11Shannon Sharpe:So the blueprint, the foundation has been laid. Because a lot of times, Joe, you draft a guy that high, what's the inclination? Throw him in there, let him be in for himself. We took him that high for a reason. You got to learn. No, that's not what the Spurs do. The Spurs will put you in a situation. They got a situation. You flourish in that situation.

1:06:32Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:06:33Shannon Sharpe:Especially because, you know, Duncan was a senior. Duncan was a grown-ass man when he come out. You're talking to a kid with 19, 20-year-olds. They're not as mature as Duncan, so they take time. And Pop and this organization understand for the long run, we got to do what's in the best interest of the team because at the end of the day, it's going to be teams that win championships.

1:06:56Chad Johnson:It is, bro. And they're on the right trajectory when it comes to setting a foundation. And you're right. Like, you know, going into this Spurs organization, they teach you how to play the game the right way. And I think we're having those legends around like Manu and Tony Park and Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Sean Elliott, having those guys around to pour into these guys and show them the Spurs way and the culture of the Spurs. I mean, hell, obviously you got to get talent now. It's like talking about Phil Jackson, but, hell, he had the best damn players, too. Like, the triangle was a –

1:07:37Shannon Sharpe:You can make a case. He had four top ten players. I don't know another coach that coached four top ten players in the history of basketball.

1:07:44Chad Johnson:The triangle was great. But, damn it, if you ain't got Jordan N 'Kobe in the hell, it might not be as great. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

1:07:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's great.

1:07:54Chad Johnson:Yeah. So, what I'm saying is, as great as the organization at the Spurs is, hell, they got Wimby. you got Harper, Castle, Fox. Like, you got some talent. You got premier talent over there to be.

1:08:07Shannon Sharpe:See, I think the thing is, Joe, you know what it is, Joe. When people look at certain players and they say, well, he ain't this, he ain't that, they don't need this or that for that system. That's what, Ochoa, we try to tell people about the Patriots. Well, Julian Edelman ain't this guy. He ain't Julio. He ain't Randy Moss. Wes Welker's not this. And Deion Branch ain't that. And Amendola's not this. They don't need that. you got to be unselfish to play in that system. Because the first time you make an issue about your catches, about your yards, they getting your ass up out of there. The first time you talk about, hey, I need a raise, they finna raise your ass up out of there.

1:08:48Shannon Sharpe:Tom Brady makes everything go. But you need guys like Amendola, like those guys that work hard and just like, hey, I'm just saying, those guys look at it like, I'm happy to have a job, Ojo. whether they catch one pass or they – because there'll be sometimes, you know Amendola or Edelman might have three passes. Next game, Edelman will come back. He got 13 passes. So you don't know week to week. They're not like number ones. Number ones, you got to feed him. You got to give him seven, eight, nine targets a game or he going to be on there. You going to walk by stepping on lips. Damn, son, pick your lips up.

1:09:22Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to trip.

1:09:23Chad Johnson:Yeah. Not there. and with San Antonio, those guys fit.

1:09:29Shannon Sharpe:The pieces got to fit. Sometimes the pieces just need to fit.

1:09:32Chad Johnson:Absolutely.

1:09:33Shannon Sharpe:They fit perfectly. Same thing with OKC. Guys understand their role. Who the best player? Yeah.

1:09:41Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:09:42Shannon Sharpe:That's how it works. Now, you might think, man, shh, man, if I had this opportunity, if I bet, hey, I could do this. Maybe deep down to himself, Scotty made me believe that he was on the level with Jordan. He never verbalized that. And he's like, okay, I'm cool. I'm going to do this. Let me get my little 6-7 assists. Let me get my 5-6-7 rebounds. Let me play hella D. I'm cool.

1:10:11Shannon Sharpe:But it wasn't until – Hell, I didn't know he thought that he was as good as Mike until the last dance came out.

1:10:18Chad Johnson:Fact.

1:10:19Shannon Sharpe:It comes to fact, hell, everybody thought they were damn good.

1:10:24Chad Johnson:Hey, everybody taking shots at MJ. But you're right. Spurs got a hell of a team. I think kudos to Coach Johnson over there who's took over from Pop. Yeah, he got to get some credit too, Joe. Yeah, he got to get some credit because, you know, it's one thing to have talent, but it's another thing when those guys vouch for you. How they vouch for you is, you know, by going out there competing their ass off. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think these guys have shown over and over that they bought into the system that Coach Johnson has over there. For sure. And you can tell, bro. They run it to the tee.

1:11:02Chad Johnson:They enjoy playing with one another. Hey, the hell they hold them starting lineup played over 45 minutes a night.

1:11:09Shannon Sharpe:Hell, yeah. I mean, you think – I mean, Harrison Barnes played six minutes. They said, nah, you minus nine. In the little six minutes you played, nah, you got to get them out of here. Kalev Johnson played 22 meters, he plus three. Carter Bryant came in, he only took two shots, but he had a big three, he was 10. Luke Cornett, they like, Luke, hey, you know, I don't know if y 'all remember the wrestling, they had two guys called team hurlers. I see it, Luke. Luke, you gotta get him out of here, bro.

1:11:37Chad Johnson:God, thank you. He was real, he was real pedestrian tonight, wasn't it? He wasn't that damn Luke Cornett y 'all been hollering about. Man,

1:11:47Shannon Sharpe:how did, hold on, who's that? How they didn't call a foul on Hartenstein when he blocked that man shot the elbow to dead his face? Come on now, Joe. Come on now. Now you know damn well, if somebody would hit Shea like that, they might, hey, let's go to the review. Let's see if that was a flavor.

1:12:04Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, the ref ain't gonna see everything now. Damn, look, every play he got to deal with somebody doing this, every damn play, they want a damn review. Damn, man, let's play ball, bro.

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