In short
Allen Iverson argues modern NBA stars “load manage” and are hurt more because the game’s pace is faster and players aren’t conditioning like past eras. He and co-hosts debate fixes (fewer games vs. better offseason conditioning) and criticize the NBA’s 65-game threshold that affects awards/supermax eligibility. They also discuss Miles Garrett skipping Cleveland’s offseason program/workout bonus structure, Jacksonville’s plan to use Travis Hunter primarily as a full-time corner, plus general sports talk and Q&A.
Guest backgrounds
No formal guests are introduced in the transcript. Hosts include Charlemagne the God (Black Effect Podcast) and former pro athletes “Allen Iverson” (via discussion/clip) and “Ocho/Uncle Ocho” (former NFL player, referenced as a gym/conditioning voice). NFL/NBA analysts are referenced (e.g., Ian Rapoport).
Key claims
- Iverson: stars should not “cry” about games missed after load managing; he says he played through injuries and practiced full speed.
- Conditioning matters: practice at game speed, build “callus” to ramp up; non-contact injuries are rising.
- 65-game/supermax rules can “punish” players for missing time.
- Miles Garrett skipping OTAs is framed as a message tied to a new regime/system and contract incentives.
- Jags want Hunter to focus on defense to handle heavy snap load.
Notable examples
- Iverson: “Iron Man” over a decade; jersey allegedly hidden to prevent him from playing.
- Hunter snap split (2025): 324 offensive snaps vs 162 defensive; injury was an LCL tear.
- Garrett: $1M workout bonus in 2026 tied to participation.
- OKC/Shea and LeBron/Bronny are mentioned as current performance examples.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAllen Iverson Calls Out NBA Stars
1:30 to 3:53
Discussion on Allen Iverson's comments about modern NBA players and load management.
“Like, I thoroughly enjoyed what I was doing, and I thoroughly enjoyed the game, and I never wanted to cheat the game.”
The Impact of Game Pace on Injuries
3:53 to 7:22
Exploration of how the fast pace of modern basketball affects player injuries.
“The body has to get used to ramping up to a certain degree that you do on Sundays, which is why when I did practice, I always practiced full speed as if it was a game.”
Training and Injury Prevention
7:22 to 10:07
Insights into the importance of consistent training to prevent injuries in sports.
“Hey, the first box I stop off, he put the mail right here.”
The Downsides of the 65-Game Threshold
10:07 to 12:32
Discussion on the implications of the 65-game threshold for NBA players and contracts.
“He ain't finna miss that defensive player of the year.”
Reflections on Modern NBA Injuries
12:32 to 14:00
Final thoughts on the state of injuries in the NBA and their historical context.
“I think this is probably historic this year.”
LeBron's Performance Analysis
14:00 to 15:27
The hosts break down LeBron's scoring and assertiveness in a recent game.
“You ain't necessarily got to just come out and beat Magic Johnson right off dump to where you just facilitating the whole first quarter.”
Historic Father-Son NBA Moment
15:28 to 17:55
Discussion about the significance of LeBron and Bronny playing together in the NBA.
“You know, I love seeing them pick and roll together.”
Miles Garrett's Offseason Decisions
17:56 to 20:36
The conversation shifts to Miles Garrett skipping offseason workouts and its implications.
“Yeah, we know Shea going to put up 30-plus.”
Contract Implications for Garrett
20:37 to 22:20
Discussion on Garrett's contract and the importance of showing up for OTAs.
“I'm just saying, why would they make it a story now?”
Leadership and Team Presence
22:21 to 23:58
The hosts reflect on the importance of leadership and presence during the offseason.
“I pick up a million dollars while I'm doing that.”
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Incentives and Player Contracts
23:59 to 25:57
A detailed discussion about player incentives in contracts and their effects.
“I remember my rookie early on because Dan, that was a big thing for Dan.”
Parenting in the NFL
25:58 to 27:51
Lighthearted reflections on parenting experiences and the costs involved.
“well hell shoot thank you see the thing is with that I did away with the incentives of my contract after they screwed me out of that hundred grand I ain't put no more What do you mean?”
Imagining Fatherhood and TV Concepts
28:00 to 30:00
The hosts humorously discuss the idea of parenthood and potential TV shows about fatherhood.
“Joe said he done Joe and then me and Jimmy.”
Conversations About Future Ventures
30:00 to 32:10
The hosts delve into the potential for a Netflix show about their lives as new fathers and the financial opportunities that could arise.
“I envisioned us having a TV show as new fathers after 40.”
Discussions on IVF and Costs
32:10 to 34:20
The hosts discuss the financial implications and processes involved in IVF and the implications of having children later in life.
“Because I would name him after my brother, Little Sterling.”
Travis Hunter's Role in the Jaguars
34:20 to 38:40
The conversation shifts to Travis Hunter's expected role with the Jaguars as a full-time cornerback and part-time receiver.
“All of a sudden, it's a white couple, and they got a black baby.”
Analyzing Hunter's Dual Position Play
38:40 to 40:00
The hosts analyze the challenges and strategies of Travis Hunter playing both cornerback and receiver in the NFL.
“You want somebody hitting that payday up?”
Transition to Audience Engagement
40:00 to 40:50
The hosts prepare to engage with the audience through Q&A, highlighting the humor of the previous discussions.
“And I think the thing is look, you got Parker Washington, you got Brian Thomas Jr.”
Viewer Feedback and Banter
40:50 to 42:01
The hosts share video voicemails from listeners, responding to their comments with camaraderie and humor.
“You cannot come back to Atlanta No But man, I love y 'all so been I watch every day doing saying I'll be keep it going man.”
Joe's Bold Statements
42:01 to 43:26
The hosts share humorous banter and discuss notable personalities.
“Don't even worry about nothing, playboy.”
NFL Draft Trades Discussion
43:26 to 45:18
The hosts analyze potential trades in the upcoming NFL draft.
“I think in comparison to that Ricky Williams trade where they gave up all those first round picks, I say Myles Garrett is on the move.”
D-Tackle Contracts Debate
45:18 to 48:20
A discussion about the contract status of Dexter Lawrence and other D-tackles.
“Ocho, it's hard when his sack total dipped the way it did.”
Advice for Young Fathers
48:20 to 51:56
Hosts offer advice to a listener about working hard for their family.
“We don't even care about you losing, man.”
Fan Interaction and Experiences
51:56 to 53:28
Discussion about interacting with fans and sharing personal experiences.
“I took my kids to Andretti's today because they on spring break.”
Contracts and Freedom Reflection
53:28 to 56:00
The hosts reflect on the implications of contracts and personal freedom.
“What was yours like, and how did it shape you?”
Reflections on Freedom After Jail
56:00 to 56:52
Discussing the importance of freedom and the struggles of incarceration.
Dunking Legends: Dominique vs. Sean Kemp
56:53 to 58:04
A lively debate about the dunking prowess of Dominique Wilkins and Sean Kemp.
“Big Ant what's going on Nightcap fam in your guys' opinion Who's a better power dunker, Dominique or Sean Kemp?”
The Challenges of Sleep on the Road
58:05 to 59:17
Sharing experiences about sleeping on planes and during travel.
“I don't need that Ocho I'm built for the bullshit You know what I mean I'm built for that Okay Oh we missed one I missed one I gotta go back Dr.”
Game Day Accessories and Superstitions
59:18 to 1:02:18
Discussing preferences for game day gear and superstitions among athletes.
“Man, I be trying to get some sleep on the plane.”
Top Wide Receivers in the Draft
1:02:19 to 1:05:06
Analyzing the top wide receiver prospects for the upcoming draft.
“I wore gold cleats depending on who we were playing.”
Coaching Changes and Future Prospects
1:05:07 to 1:08:33
Discussing the impact of coaching changes on player development and recruitment.
“Because, you know, remember Calvin was number two behind Jamarcus.”
Thoughts on the Masters Tournament
1:08:34 to 1:10:00
Conversations about the Masters Tournament and favorite moments in golf.
“But we got a young class coming in this year, fellas.”
Masters Merchandise Insights
1:10:00 to 1:10:50
Learn about the staggering merchandise sales at the Masters golf tournament.
“got the prices like they had in the original.”
Discussion on Personal Experiences
1:10:50 to 1:12:40
Hear the hosts share personal anecdotes and reflections on life experiences.
“She up at 7.30 in the morning talking to me about this.”
Humorous Takes on Relationships
1:12:40 to 1:15:14
Enjoy a light-hearted conversation about relationships and humorous experiences.
“Joe, just go ahead and, man, just let it happen, man.”
Taking One for the Team
1:15:14 to 1:18:20
Explore the concept of 'taking one for the team' in dating and social scenarios.
“Because I say stuff that is roastable and don't care.”
World Cup Anticipations
1:18:20 to 1:23:16
Get excited about the upcoming World Cup and the hosts' plans for coverage.
“So you got to keep a guy like Ocho with you all the time.”
NBA Game Recap and Guest Introduction
1:24:40 to 1:25:40
Overview of recent NBA games and introduction of special guest Caden McDonald.
“Oh, first of all, the Knicks beat the Celtics 112-106, thanks to two dagger threes in the fourth quarter by Josh Hart.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Peace to the planet. Charlemagne the God here and listen, we are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yard. And the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grit Sineggs podcast, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat.
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0:49Shannon Sharpe:Allen Iverson is calling out modern NBA stars for load managing. This all hit different for me. Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they cry out about players not playing games. I played every – he said, I played with every injury you can think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing. True story. Now we're talking about the game. Not practice. Not practice. We're talking about the game.
1:16Chad Johnson:Don't cry now. What the baby's going to do? Hey, look, I understand where AI is coming from. Hey, look, you're talking to a guy who was Iron Man in the NBA for over a decade, Uncle Ocho. Like, I thoroughly enjoyed what I was doing, and I thoroughly enjoyed the game, and I never wanted to cheat the game. But I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today, meaning it's a lot faster. The tempo is more upbeat, more up, more pace. And, you know, back when AI and T-Magnon was playing, the game wasn't played this fast, man. You know what I mean? And yeah, those dudes averaged 30-plus a night.
1:58Chad Johnson:But hell, they was the only one on their team who was doing that. You weren't putting up about 85, 90 points, you know, 95 points a night. It's just totally different, man. These guys play at such a helter-skelter pace. And, you know, it's starting to hurt our stars, as we can see. A lot of our stars. Look, look, man. Can't nobody even make the 65-game threshold to even be, you know, in a conversation for any of these awards. you know what I mean so it says a lot I think the pace of the game has really really has been upgraded to the point to where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats so Joe what you think you think the answer is obviously fixing the issue is taking some of the games out because the pace is a little bit more upbeat now
2:44Shannon Sharpe:no because they ain't going to get no money out because you know you play less games you get less money Ocho yeah I mean yeah you giving up some of your money No, but I'm just saying, how do you fix the problem? How do you fix the issue when your superstars are getting hurt?
3:01Chad Johnson:You're probably going to have to train a lot harder. If you're asking me, meaning like in the offseason, you're going to have to be – you can't take no two months off, bro. You kind of got to stay consistent, you know, whether it's just staying in shape, running, things of that sort, because that's all it is, bro. It's just the running part that's really killing cats, playing at this ultra-high level, you know what I mean? especially when we get in the postseason. You know you can't take a playoff. You know, I know we sit here almost every other night, man. I'll talk about, you know, playing a game of basketball.
3:33Chad Johnson:It's three and a half, four miles a game, bro. Can you imagine running four miles every other night? Every night? Yeah. You know, man? Up and down, yeah.
3:43Shannon Sharpe:You definitely have to condition your body. You have to condition your body to withstand that kind of – and that's what Ocho and I was talking about is that we played a physical game. they were hitting we were doing all those things they didn't ask us to go from zero to 100 just on sundays we had to crank it up during the week week and i don't know if they crank it up like what like what we did and i'm not saying the guys are not tough but it's a different game now we understand that but and maybe maybe it's because everything get covered the nfl is covered so much different than it was when i played and when you played ocho and even when the beginning when i first got to the league but i don't remember guys getting injured like they get now i don't remember it and i'm not saying that it didn't so i so chad don't don't don't beat don't beat me up too bad i just don't remember did the guys have acl yes did i have achilles but not not these non-contact injuries not the injuries that we have that we see look look yeah i mean definitely not to the
4:42Chad Johnson:that's what i'm saying it's happening to the stars fellas so that's it lets you know that obviously they're playing a substantial amount of minutes and it's obviously wear and tear on their bodies to where they're breaking down. Yeah. I mean, Uncle Joe, you know, my whole thing is obviously, for one, it's hard for me to even have input on conversations like this being that I didn't have any injuries, but I always say, I know I play around with nutrition, but forget nutrition for this point, but I think people or players, regardless of what sport you play, you have to learn to build a callus in the body.
5:21The body has to get used to ramping up to a certain degree that you do on Sundays, which is why when I did practice, I always practiced full speed as if it was a game. There was no relaxing. There was no taking a play off. Hell, the funny part, I used to get cursed out and walk through because sometimes I would do walk through full speed. I mean, I wasn't doing it to be funny. I was doing it just so to continue to make sure my body stays acclimated and always at a high rate of speed at all times. And for some reason, I think it's those small things that I did that one of the reasons why I didn't I didn't get hurt.
6:01And obviously, I played the same sport. Unc did, Joe, a barbaric sport. I played very reckless, Joe, you know, cross the middle, you know, diving and hitting people, even though I lost every time I tried to hit somebody. I lost every single one, Joe. but I still never got hurt. And I'm at that talking. Everybody trying to knock my head off. Everybody trying to kill me. Joe, but I still never got hurt.
6:22Shannon Sharpe:You know? I mean, they call it walk-through, but ours was a brisk jog. It wasn't no walking. And they was like, hey, pick it up. I said, you said it's a walk-through. Nah, that's just in title. Ain't no walking. Right, right, right. And I said, nobody walk but the mailman. That's why he don't make what you make. Right. And they done gave that joke a call. The mailman don't even walk no more. Hold on, hold on.
6:42Chad Johnson:You see the news? I don't know about y 'all, but here in Georgia, boy, they got some new mail trucks in the month of June and July. Them boys in AC. Yeah. You see, they sit real low, right, Joe? They sit real low? The mail truck is made different. It look almost futuristic now.
7:03Chad Johnson:I ain't seen the mail truck. Yeah, they got them here too, Joe.
7:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because them old mail trucks, they had the one seat in there, and the guy had the mail right there. He pull up there, talking about, oh, here you go. But he knew everybody. I mean, I was like, how you know everybody? He done sorted the mail before he went out there. He know the route that he's going to go. Hey, the first box I stop off, he put the mail right here. But yeah, man, them mail, them jokers, hey, they got on short sets. They had the hat. They had sweat all in their uniform.
7:33Chad Johnson:They having that now, I'll tell you. Hey, they living good, boy.
7:39Shannon Sharpe:They be clean now. but uh yeah i look and the thing is practice see i i enjoy practice practice was really the opportunity ocho and joe for me to really work on because this guy that he sees me every day in practicing he knows all the little nuances right my route he knows that little wiggle at the top he knows the little head the head nod to the top or the three steps to the like nausea and the thing is i give credit ronnie bradford derrick dodge uh tony velan they would always give me great feedback. They're like, Sharp, you got on your toes, I knew you was breaking. Because I would ask, I'd say, bro, how you knew that route?
8:16Shannon Sharpe:He'd say, man, I saw you get on your toes at the top of it. So I just took it. I know you're breaking in or out. So I just took the thing up for myself to jump under it. Okay. So it kept me, okay, make sure I stay off my toes. I would have it cut up. So I look at it like, damn, I gave it away. I gave it away. But I'm saying to myself he don't know this the guy that's in the game don't know this but even even then even though he don't know it i'm trying to cut out because i don't want to give away no tendencies because we're a tendency look we study tendencies we're gonna get tv copy that's why they're trying to get the cadence of the quarterback we're trying to get that we're trying to get how you stagger your stance and jump off the ball we're trying to get there whether you're dropping whether you're coming whether you're doing a te or et whatever the case may be we're looking at all that that's That's how the game has evolved.
9:09Shannon Sharpe:That's how the great players, they know, oh, we got a bird over here, which means he about to fly. He about to fool. Yeah, he's sitting like, hey, because, and I had a thing where it was like, because I didn't want grass to get on my thing, because, you know, I had those all tactified gloves, and I was like, if it was a pass, I'm down like this here. If it's a run, I'm like this. Oh, Sharp, you don't think we know, huh? What you know? Don't worry about it. so I had to sometimes you have to self scout yourself but I agree with AI but I tell you what Joe just think if that 65 games wasn't in place how many more games would they have missed let's just say for the sake of argument the 65 game isn't a cutoff a lot of guys came back just to make the 65 game cutoff so we have other guys like Wimby.
10:06Shannon Sharpe:Wimby gonna get that 20 minutes in the last three games. He ain't finna miss that defensive player of the year. He's not finna miss an all NBA because now that puts him in line for a supermax. Jokic ain't gonna miss no more games because now he's in line for a supermax. Ant-Man is gonna come back next year and do everything he can to make all NBA because if he makes it, now he's in line for a supermax and guess what? In 2025, in 2027, 82 million. When's Shea up again? And Unc, he just, Shane just signed four years, 294. Last summer? This year. Yeah, he has the effect now. Hey, that's crazy too, Unc.
10:44When I think about it, Joe, and Unc, I'm talking about the play, I'm talking about the top players, you know? Yes. You know, the Cades and the Wimbys and some of the players that you know that deserve Supermax based on their value and what they bring to the team, skill set, and what they're able to do, and the fact that, well, if they miss this amount of games, that means we can't reward you for what your true value is. That's, in a sense, that's messed up. It is. That's messed up. The fact that they even agreed to that when, listen, injuries is a part of sports. Injuries is a part of anything, any sport you play.
11:17And the fact that now they're kind of punishing players where if you miss this many games or you don't play this many games, you know what, we're not going to reward you with what your true value is because your ass always hurt.
11:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And guys were just sitting out and see, here's the thing. How do you – that's their body. You don't know. They could be hurt. They could be telling the absolute truth. But, Ocho, when I got a game on a Saturday night and it's supposed to be a big game, or I got a game on a Sunday and guys sitting down in their street clothes and they got the – NBA said, no. They said, don't worry about it. Yeah. We going to fix this. Yeah, the NBA PA signed off on it. they couldn't have done anything this has to be you're right see the player signed off on it and then it's like oh I got by every more this is really this really hurt me it's hurting the game bro
12:19Chad Johnson:I don't think I've ever seen a year to where we've had this many of our stars out or missed a significant amount of time. I don't think I've ever seen it, man. I'm telling you for real. I think this is probably historic this year. Seriously.
12:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, and the guys are getting bigger, stronger, faster. So, they're going to have to get themselves in better condition.
12:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, they do, man. Hey, Joe. You been in the gym yet? Come on, man. Come on, I stay in the gym, baby. What's up? I'm talking about like, you know, getting some shots, working on your lateral movement. I need to see you some footage when I go tomorrow. Nah, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I got to show these shoes I got just for you, Joe. And I got them literally just to play you to make sure. What kind of shoes you got? Hey, Joe. Hey, hold on, hold on. I don't want to leave and go get them. Okay, okay, okay. Let me make a call and tell them to bring my shoes. Hold on. Hey, hey, look. I'm going to tear his ass cat rag.
13:25that he don't even know that. Hey, Joe, I promise you one thing, Joe. I promise you one thing. The way you think and you talk like you finna drag me, oh, my mama rest in peace. Don't bring your mama in this.
13:35Chad Johnson:Don't do that. I'm there telling you, Joe, I'm telling you how it's gonna be. Joe, I know you wanted to grade it, Joe. I'd have studied you. Oh, Joe, hey, hold on. I made a DVD in there, right? I made a DVD in there. I have all your clips, right? Your best moves. I've been watching your tendencies. the move you like to do hey one two and come back to the left and pull up I've been watching it Joe no you laughing I'm serious tell me I'm lying dribble twice to the right come back cross over with the left and pull up right away who raised dude man who raised this dude for real Joe I got the whole breakdown Joe I'm ready you ready for it hold on matter of fact let me go get the shoes hold on hold on cause she's sleeping
14:25Shannon Sharpe:hey hey joe did you watch lebron tonight did you see how he came out i'm playing with him man
14:30Chad Johnson:did you see how he came out tonight joe that's what we've been looking for man damn them they'll get it get it how you get it look the man oh what he got 26 8 and 11 26 11 for 17 on 11 of 17 3 or 5 that's what i'm talking about but that's what i'm saying if he gonna just assert himself early on, them rest of them dudes will catch up, man. The game will be easy for them, too. You know what I mean? You ain't necessarily got to just come out and beat Magic Johnson right off dump to where you just facilitating the whole first quarter. Man, damn all that. I need you to get to it. Yeah, I mean, he's like, you tried to break Scottie Skiles' assist record, trying to get 31.
15:12Chad Johnson:Hey, you see... Hey, hold on. We need 35 points. You see Brian in there with 10 points, 4 for 7 from the field. You see Bronny out there. Hey, look, I don't know about nobody else. Chat, y 'all let me know what y 'all think. But for me, when I watch the Lakers play, I love seeing Bronny out there with LeBron. For whatever reason. You know, I love seeing them pick and roll together. I love to see Bronny get an assist off Bronny. Bronny get an assist. Like, because I feel like this is so historic that it's happening in real time, and a lot of people can't even appreciate it. But I can't even imagine being in the NBA, me and my son on the same team, bro.
15:50That just sounds crazy.
15:53Chad Johnson:What's that you got, bro?
15:54Shannon Sharpe:And LeBron don't look at him as his son because LeBron, he gave LeBron that bad pass against Dallas.
15:58Chad Johnson:He's like, what did he do?
16:04Shannon Sharpe:He probably got home with Savannah like, hey, don't you yell at my baby no more. Hey, you know what's funny? All that cursing they do on the court, Joe, when you couldn't play with your son because the first time he cursed you, you don't get mad. Oh, you got them Kyries, huh? Yeah, Kyrie sent these to me. Kyrie be watching the show. Let me see what they look like. Let us see what they look like. Hey, ump, Kyrie be watching the show, right? And he told me he gave me his blessing to give Joe that work.
16:34Chad Johnson:I'm going to knock them damn tassels off them damn shoes, boy. When I get done with your ass. Hey, you see that, Joe? Yeah, I see. Hey, that's what you That's what you're going to see. You're going to see them tassels going right by your ass. That's what you're going to see. Kyrie going back to his heritage. Kyrie, I appreciate that. Boy, I love you. You hear me? I ain't going to let you down. I'm going to get Joe that work. I'm telling you. What I'm hooping in, they ain't going to be able to mess with what I got. I ain't even going to show you. You're going to see them when you see me, partner.
17:04Chad Johnson:Yeah. That's how I roll. Okay. Hey, mind your mouth, Joe. Mind your mouth now.
17:12Shannon Sharpe:Chet has finished as the number one seed his entire career. In 2018, 19, and 20, and 21, at Miaha Academy, he was the number one seed. In the 2021 FIBA Under-19 World Championship, number one seed. Gonzaga, number one seed. OKC, Oklahoma City, OKC, number one, number one, number one.
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17:36Chad Johnson:I told you. What I told you on Ocho during the playoffs, I said, the better check becomes the better OKC will be and he will determine whether they be a dynasty or not because if he play great it's going to be hard to beat him look what he did yesterday he had 30 and 14 4 blocks you know what I'm saying so he rim protecting not only is he scoring but he rim protecting he's making the game easy for the guys around him as well I think his growth and maturity for OKC will determine how great of a team that they are. Yeah, we know Shea going to put up 30-plus. We know Jalen Williams going to do his thing.
18:19Chad Johnson:But if Chick can play at a high level, man, they're going to be almost unbeatable, fellas.
18:27Shannon Sharpe:Would you? Yeah. I mean, look, they just got so many. They just come at you. It's just going to be hard for somebody to beat them. unless they have. And the thing is, what are the likelihood of them having four bad nights? Not likely. Four bad nights because they got guys that can shoot it. McCain was a great pickup. Caruso. Yeah, what's the lefty?
18:53Chad Johnson:What's the other little lefty who be balling? A little light-skinned.
18:57Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, I know who you're talking about. I can't think of his name, Joe. Is his name Mitchell? It might be. It might be. man. But Jerry McClain was a solid pickup because remember, he was playing really well in Philly before he got hurt.
19:09Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. He was a great pickup. You know, a very underrated pickup. You know, a guy who is hungry, ready to prove himself. Obviously, he feels slighted for what happened to him in Philly. So, you know, he coming over there with, you know, with Avengers, bro. He look good out there.
19:29Shannon Sharpe:Check this out. Miles Garrett skipped the start of teams offseason program that puts him on track to lose one million dollars in 2026 compensation garrett contracts includes a one million dollar workout bonus in 2026 to earn it garrett must participate i can't hear you we can't hear you
19:58Hey.
19:58Chad Johnson:What's that? What's up? Hey Joe, man Miles ain't tripping about that. Man, please. A million? What do you mean he ain't tripping? Well, we talk about Miles Garrett, boy. He's not there for a reason. Sometimes the message is clear. The message is always clear. What's the message, Ojo? Man, he don't want to be there, man. Come on now. Come on now. He don't want to be there. So you think that's why he ain't showing up for the many camps? Yeah. He ain't never missed before. It's OTAs. Obviously, OTAs is voluntary. It's in your contract. You don't have to come. But if you don't come, obviously, you miss your money.
20:36He ain't never missed before, I'm sure. Don't quote me. I'm just saying, why would they make it a story now? If he's always been there, if he's always been there, if he's not showing up this year, you're not showing up for him.
20:46Chad Johnson:Hell, he got his money, Ocho. He took the money. If he ain't want to be there, he shouldn't have took the money. He took the money. Come on, Joe. I mean, we got it. Can you guys hear me?
20:55Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. We hear you. Oh, but here's the thing, though, Ocho. What do they have? What's different? Coaches. A new coach. Yeah. A new system. Yes, sir. Remember, we had the same thing with Lamar. We had this conversation about Lamar. New system. So, and look, I'm like, Joe, if they'd have had a million dollars in my contract, I would've been there. But like I said, they was trying to give me$50 a day. I said, to hell with you. I said, I worked my last$50 a day job when I was landscaping back in college. I said, ain't no more$50 a day for me. I got a question for you. Yes, sir. Think about this. Someone like Miles Garrett, you know.
21:32Yes. As well as he played last year, as well as he played in general. Someone like that, that is as valuable as they are, who is the identity, not just that defense, but the identity to that franchise. They still won, what, five games? Four games or whatever it may have been. why not give him the opportunity to go somewhere else and give him a chance to win why not because you're losing with probably the greatest defense in that's playing in today's game why not give him the opportunity to do that well maybe the message to me I mean I don't know maybe I'm tripping you can let me know if I'm tripping but to not show up to OTAs which you've always have and there's a new regime new coach of staff new defensive scheme new offensive scheme everything being implemented in and you don't show up i mean i mean the message has always been clear he doesn't have to come out and say it you're actually you're actually going to show okay it's enough is enough
22:33Shannon Sharpe:i might be wrong i i i i i kind of thought that like okay a new like a lot of times like with new coach with a new coach come you know they can have three mini camps you get in you You want to show your face as a leader and learn the defense. And plus a million dollars. I pick up a million dollars while I'm doing that. But, I mean, it would have been tough for me because when I'm there, I'm there. I really didn't go home off weeks and stuff like that. Some guys, we get off and we wouldn't have to be back until Wednesday. And some guys would go wherever they go. I was never like that. So when I was there in Denver, I was there.
23:11Shannon Sharpe:once I left I wasn't trying to be back until I absolutely positively had to be back I ain't do that Joe our off season program was 13 weeks it was Monday through Thursday Friday through Sunday was off 9 times out of 10 that Friday through Sunday I'm going back to Miami I always do the morning work on a Thursday and I get on a flight Thursday evening fly to Miami, relax here don't do anything, probably do some training as well relax Thursday then back on the plane Sunday night and then repeat it. It was a 13-week program. It was fun. I really enjoyed it because I'm a gym rat, Joe. Hell, I can't stay out of the gym now.
23:52Now I'm playing nothing. So you could imagine back then when I was playing. So I was excited to go to the off-season program and just see the fellas, man. It was cool to see the fellas. Jeez, I was trying to know fellas.
24:02Shannon Sharpe:Hey. I remember my rookie early on because Dan, that was a big thing for Dan. You had to be there. I was like, man, I sure hope I can get good enough one day. I don't have to come to this issue. As soon as I got good enough, I ain't had to come to this issue. Oh, yeah. Hey, you one of our leaders. I'm leading from Atlanta. That's who I'm leading from. I'm leading from Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no. Y 'all not paying. Y 'all paying him to lead. He's making the big bucks. Y 'all ain't paying me to lead. I'll be in Atlanta. And besides, and then Mike just came to the realization, you know what?
24:40Shannon Sharpe:He's like, I remember in 96, I didn't come back. I didn't do no off-season program. And he was like, we was out there at practice. He said, let me see what you're looking like. So I pulled my shirt up. He's like, you ain't never got to worry about coming back. Hey, you had the nuts in your stomach. What? Joe, shredded like a tax return. Hey, Joe, that's what I look like now. Joe. Yeah. Well, hey, that's a bad. That boy always look like a text email. It's gone. Disappeared on him, Joe. I like that. Yeah, man. But I'm like Joe, Ocho, you know damn well if the bingers put a million dollars and no matter how much you...
25:31Shannon Sharpe:You ain't let that go. Mine was only$250. So a million? I mean, I'm there. I'm there and you know it's funny too when it comes to my craft in general you don't have to incentivize for me because I love what I do I love working I love training I just I love being in that environment but just the fact that to be there you mean you're going to pay me this to be there and I already like to do it anyway well hell shoot thank you see the thing is with that I did away with the incentives of my contract after they screwed me out of that hundred grand I ain't put no more What do you mean? How they screw you at that 100 grand?
26:08Shannon Sharpe:What happened? Cause, man, I'm supposed to get 100 ,000 for 1 ,000 yards. Joe, I had 995 yards at the half. I had 116 yards and two touchdowns on six catches. And they catch another pass that's the second half. Hey, Unc, they did that on purpose. And guess what? I ain't put another. Tell me, you want to see it? I want nothing. Because y 'all going to pay me what y 'all supposed to pay me, and I'm supposed to lead the team in catches. I'm supposed to lead the team in yards. I'm supposed to be an all-pro. I'm supposed to go to the Pro Bowl. I don't need y 'all to incentivize that. Because y 'all paying me enough, that's what I'm supposed to do.
26:44Shannon Sharpe:I don't need no extra. Hey, Joe, they play that game like that with a lot of people, Joe.
26:48Chad Johnson:Yeah, I know. Hey, I ain't going to lie, boy. That football cut, though. That football. Hey, Joe, they play that game with a lot of people. When you have incentives, you need the catches, you need certain yards as a running back, they will play with you. If you're being on the field, a certain amount of snaps, all that stuff, they keep track of everything. They keep track of everything. And they will not let you hit it depending on who you are. And they do it on purpose every time. Like that little chunk of change compared to what they have is going to make a big difference.
27:16Shannon Sharpe:Because you got to realize$100 ,000 was a lot of money to me because I was only making$325 ,000. Right. $100 ,000, hey, that's not a little chunk of change in no shape. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you know, I had, hey, I had three. Yeah. Pampers. That got your boy about two, three years of pampers right there.
27:39Shannon Sharpe:Hey, daycare? Man, you know daycare was expensive back then. I don't know what daycare is now, but I know it's expensive on your mind. I can only imagine. I mean, you're going to know what it's like soon in nine months. I don't know nothing. I thought we talked about this, fellas. No, you and Joe talked about it. Joe was on my side. Joe said he done Joe and then me and Jimmy. Hey, you know what I just thought about? Think about this. Think about how other ethnicities, other races, they plan having their kids at the same time so they can do everything together. Can you imagine all us with our babies pushing strollers at the park?
28:18Chad Johnson:Nah, I can't imagine that.
28:21Shannon Sharpe:Pretty soon somebody will have to push me. That's going to be my big ass in the chair.
28:30Shannon Sharpe:What the hell are you talking about? Hey, it's a movie like that. I can't remember what movie it is. I think that would be dope though. That's a TV series in itself. Nightcap. With the kids. I'm already sitting in the third seat in the SUV. I'm already sitting in the very back with the thing pulled down with my leg on top of it. I'm done, Ocho. I told you I'm going to practice. I'm doing all I can. Don't put me in. I don't know no plays. Hey, Ocho.
29:04Chad Johnson:Yo, Ocho, your boy over here, I ain't doing nothing but shooting blanks, man. I cut the line over here. Yeah. Line cut over here, man. Oh, man. God ain't going to - I'm out of ready, please. I ain't got no doggy water. Come on. But now, come on, Joe. You did that, Joe? I struck out, Ocho. I got three. Three strikes out, baby. But Joe, you weren't supposed to cut the line because all numbers is bad luck. Joe, it's in the Bible. Ain't no bad luck. Your boy ain't doing nothing but shooting blanks, man. That's all right. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, me and my lady, we just practicing. We just practicing.
29:41Chad Johnson:That's it. That's it. Oh, Joe, I ain't got nothing but some pond water in me.
29:45Shannon Sharpe:This ain't strong at all. Damn, man. I can't believe it. This water ain't got no bubbles to it. This ain't no sparkling water over here. You know that old fizz? They say, what you want, flat or sparkling? Give me flat. Because that's all I got in me, flat. Hey, man, y 'all done messed up. I envisioned us having a TV show as new fathers after 40. Netflix was going to pick that up.
30:11Chad Johnson:I can reconnect it. I can reconnect the line now, but it's got to be worth it. You know what I mean? I'm going to talk to Netflix. They approached me about it. I said, listen, I'm going to talk to the fellas and see what they want to do. Oh, man.
30:25Shannon Sharpe:I ain't going to move with y 'all that. You ain't got one more in y 'all. there we go Joe
30:30Chad Johnson:there we go Joe
30:33Shannon Sharpe:I ain't gonna lie to you I wish I could tell you something but I ain't got it I ain't gonna hold you right but because of who you are because the value in which we possess they were talking north of 400 million huh you just don't want to be boy Listen, I ain't telling what I heard. I ain't telling what I heard. I'm telling what I know. Boy, look here. Hey. I'm going to have to take this sausage out of Casey. I'm going to have to take it out of Casey. I'm just saying, hey, man, come on now. That's how the bread. Hey, listen. I'm just telling you what they told me. It was a conversation in vague.
31:20You know? I was vigilant. I was giving them the play and the possibility of it happening, I'm like, man, that would be dope because no one has ever had anything like that. Nobody, at the same time, you know, it do wonders.
31:36Shannon Sharpe:You know what, guys? I'll be honest with you. If I was close to y 'all age, if I was in my mid-40s, I'd say, you know what, guys? Let's do it. And I'm down to 60 years. It's all right. Hey. And by the time that thing set in, you know, I had to catch one when she just right about seven days afterwards, catching just right, probably about four, five times a day for like three, four days. Right. You good? You good. That's where they got them roast babies. I'm 75, 76 years old going to a high school graduation. What's wrong with that? They talking about Little Sterling. Because I would name him after my brother, Little Sterling.
32:15Shannon Sharpe:Your granddaddy out here, that's my daddy, fool.
32:20I don't know. I mean, them numbers sounded real good, which is why - They do sound good.
32:25Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, hey, mama changing two sets of diapers. His ain't mine. Hey, pick up some diapers. For me or for him?
32:39Chad Johnson:Oh, man, that's funny, bro. Hey, bro, I know what you mean, bro. I don't know what that - Joe said, I reconnect the life.
32:53Shannon Sharpe:Man, Ocho, I didn't damn, but Ocho, you got eight. I know, I know. I want twins, and I'm done.
33:00Chad Johnson:That'll put you right at, not only will you have a starting five, but you got a bench, too. Yeah, and my bench is going to be just like OKC. Damn. I'm saying, how many boys you got, Ocho? Damn, you only got two. Yeah. Yeah, my son, my youngest son here, he play receiver at Northern. and he here with me now.
33:22Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Hold on, you got six girls and two boys? Yeah. You don't have a number. You don't have twin girls. You don't have eight and two. No, I'm going to have two. I'm doing FBI. Make sure you have boys. Ain't no FBI in vitro. I said FBI.
33:49Shannon Sharpe:IVF in vitro fertilization oh okay yeah no FBI they investigate you don't need to investigate nothing
34:04Shannon Sharpe:nah hell nah man please and you don't want that because you already know you don't know how much that costs man let me say it costs what that's expensive no it ain't
34:19Chad Johnson:ivf come on ivf probably what maybe two thousand no it's about 20 25k 20 25 30 000. man don't don't let the people rip you off come on now that's a rip off now you you have to you have to go to multiple places and do and do the price comparisons like boy hey they must they mess around and put a
34:38Shannon Sharpe:chicken egg in your girl. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. He going to somebody's backyard. You be a gay bird to a two-pound hen. Man, you better go to a regular. Joe, you better go to a regular. He going, hey, hey. He going, hey. You be like the people that be suing. All of a sudden, it's a white couple, and they got a black baby. Or this black couple, they got an Asian. Man, you better go to somewhere in a regular room. You talking about you trying to save money.
35:05Chad Johnson:I'm talking about somebody's backyard.
35:09Shannon Sharpe:They got a chicken baster. Like they put gravy on the turkey. Hell no. Hey, that's funny. Hell no, Ocho. I'm good, man. The Jacksonville Jaguars expect Travis Hunter to be a full-time corner and a part-time receiver. Rappaport adds Hunter is expected to be a full participant in training camp as he continued to recover from an LCL tear that ended his 2025 rookie season. Hunter's snap count weighed heavily in favor of the offensive side of the ball last year. Overall, in 2025, Hunter saw 324 snaps on offense, 162 snaps on defense. So, hold on, Joe. What Ian Rappaport is reporting is what you and I have been saying.
35:59Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Yes. Go ahead, go ahead. Take it off. Y 'all want y 'all to take the conversation. I don't want to be one of them guys to say, I told you. So go ahead, Ocho. I mean, Joe and obviously Travis, his dream was going to the NFL. He said it to multiple teams is, I'm hoping to do exactly what I did at Colorado. I want to be able to play both sides of the ball and be able to impact the game on both sides of the ball. Unk said, and I said as well, and I agree with him, that would be too much because of the level of talent and elite players at certain positions. Think about it. Travis Hunter playing DB, then having to cover Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, you know, and some of the elite wide receivers in the league.
36:40And then having to turn right back around and go play on goddamn offense and play receiver. And then still be of value and being very, very tactical and technical when it comes to playing a position. So at that point, you could only be just good on both ends. where you can focus on one position and be great at defensive back, which you're really good at, and then have packages to play on offense, which can also be impactful where they have special plays designed just for you to get the ball because with the ball in your hands, well, you are special. You're special. But a full-time TV is perfect.
37:20Shannon Sharpe:It says, in the wake of Hunter's injury last season, fans were calling the Jags to choose just one position for Travis. Though we could see Hunter get some snaps at wide receiver in 2026, it looks like he will be a dedicated cornerback for the foreseeable future.
37:37Chad Johnson:That's what he said.
37:39Shannon Sharpe:It's easier. Also, I mean, in order for this, and I didn't think, like, he's like, oh, I can do it. I said 130 snaps a game? Yeah. Yeah. I said it's easier for him to play corner and build a couple of packages in, Ocho. We got a couple of sets like they did for Chad Bailey, like they did for some of the other guys, like they did for time. There have been other guys that played. Charles Wilson. Yeah, Woody. Roy Green actually started off as a corner, got some plays at wide receiver, and then he was so good, they ended up moving to wide receiver and took him out of the corner. But go ahead, Joe.
38:18Chad Johnson:No, I agree with Ocho. I think, you know, him being a DB and then kind of similar with Uncle just saying, like how the Cowboys use Deion. You know, he was a DB, but they had a package in there for Deion for where, you know, he would be on offense from time to time. And I think that's the same way the Jaguars probably going to use Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you say, 130-something snaps a game, hell that's basically full time on both on both sides right and it takes a toll on you bro because you never get a rest nah nope I like it I like that the Jags are doing this so he can focus on one thing focus on being the best defensive back he can be depending on where they move him listen and obviously as great as you are I hope you become not just a DB but a traveling DB.
39:15A DB that follows the one.
39:18Chad Johnson:Do that. You want somebody hitting that payday up? Hitting another payday? Follow the number one on every team. And then have small packages on offense and go impact the game that way. Hey, look, I understand what you guys are saying. Hell, y 'all played the game at a very high level. But I love seeing Travis on offense too, Uncle Ocho. Boy got some hands. He electric when he catch the ball. You know what I mean? I feel like he's always a big play away. You feel what I'm saying? So I definitely hope they still keep him on offense from time to time. It ain't got to be every down, but for the most part, I want to see that electric side of him too.
39:59Chad Johnson:Yeah, of course.
40:00Shannon Sharpe:And I think the thing is look, you got Parker Washington, you got Brian Thomas Jr. that had an offseason. So you can plug him in defensively is where you're like, okay, We need a lot of help here. Guys that can get up to the quarterback. We can really use travel. Like you said, Ocho, travel. Take care of it. Because you got Nico Collins and you got guys in that division. Vision. That you're going to have to deal with. Yeah.
40:31Shannon Sharpe:So, I like it. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q &A.
40:48Shannon Sharpe:uh hopefully uh um we said at the memo y 'all stop with the corny jokes uh before we get to our super chat we do got five video voicemail from my discord let's hear his video number one what's going on y 'all boys man i just want to say i relate to you like on a spiritual level for real because my folks i grew up by my grandparents you know i'm saying they from washington georgia So it's dinner like we got the same grandparents like when you say what you say like I feel that shit in my soul You know I'm saying and then oh so right a lot like I foot with you heavy like we were out with you heavy But you know Joe walk on water in Atlanta.
41:29So you put your hands on that boy. You cannot come back to Atlanta No But man, I love y 'all so been I watch every day doing saying I'll be keep it going man. I was
41:44Chad Johnson:Don't play about me, Ojo. Hey, you heard him say I'm just playing it then, too, because it was going to have to be two people on the hit list. He was going to get this working. You were going to get it, too. But, hey, listen, y 'all were going to be a combo meal. Y 'all were going to be a two-for-one. I appreciate Buddy for even speaking up, but he ain't got to worry about nothing. You hear me? Yeah. Don't even worry about nothing, playboy. I got him. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Man, listen, man, Joe. I'm about this far off your ass, boy. You hear me? Hey, I'm telling you. I'm going to tell you what you need to do.
42:13I'm going to tell you now Put a condom in your ear and fuck with your herd Because you're going to get your ass whipped
42:24Hey Joe
42:25Chad Johnson:I like Joe Hey y 'all don't steal my stuff Chat don't steal my stuff
42:35Shannon Sharpe:Here's our second Let's take a listen to what he had to say Oh whatever though Also Oh, so she boys more to singer from Detroit. Hey look If y 'all ever do Shay Shay media hall of fame, you cannot tell me these are not gonna be first ballot inductees right Cat Williams coach Brown Michelle and King ISO those are first ballot Hall of Fame Shay Shay media inductees damn Appreciate that bro.
43:08Chad Johnson:Appreciate that What can I say, man? Hey. What can I say? You know? Who gazing? Who gazing? Who gazing? You know what I mean?
43:25Shannon Sharpe:Here's video number three. Let's take a listen. Ocho. Isojo. This your boy Trey. In the chat, I'm beergang268. Question for y 'all tonight. With the NFL draft coming up, do y 'all think we'll see any more of those gigantic trades like the uh like the herschel walker trade from the niners i know that wasn't around the draft but you know that massive kind of trade or the rick williams trade which was for the draft where they got rid of all their first round draft picks to pick him up uh do y 'all think we'll ever see another another one of those big trades again in the nfl appreciate y 'all yes absolutely well we got remember trey trey lance was a big trade.
44:08Yep. I think in comparison to that Ricky Williams trade where they gave up all those first round picks, I say Myles Garrett is on the move. I say Myles Garrett is on the move. Now, I don't know if it probably won't happen draft day, but I think A.J. Brown will also be on the move after June 1st. After June 1st. He will be on the move as well. Any other players? There aren't any other players right now where the roads are rocky that it would make extreme headlines. Oh my God, so-and-so just got traded. Everyone else is probably set in stone. Maybe Dexter Jackson. Dexter Jackson who says he wants to be traded.
44:53Dexter Lawrence, you mean? Dexter Lawrence, I'm sorry. I'm thinking about D-Jack that played with me in Cincinnati and played for the Bucs. I'm tripping. Yeah,
45:01Shannon Sharpe:look. I think the thing is, D-Lawrence, he don't have any more guaranteed money. Oh, he's trying to get it. He wants a new contract. He wants more guaranteed. Maybe he's trying to pull the Miles Garrett. Do they value him the same way they value Miles Garrett, though? Where that would work. Ocho, it's hard when his sack total dipped the way it did. I just can't. I can't, Ocho. He's a D-tackle. I know. Look at his numbers, Ocho. And you got Brian Burns. You got Thibodeau. you got Carter. They both had double digits. Brian Burns had like 17, 18 sacks. Yeah. I cannot. And I think Dexter is a phenomenal D tackle, but I cannot reward him coming off the season that he just had.
45:53Damn. I can't. I just can't. I would think in a sense, based on how well he's played, despite his dip in sack total, he still is a D tackle. I paid him.
46:04Shannon Sharpe:I compensate him. I made him the highest paid defensive tackle. I mean, close to the highest paid one time. Right. I paid him. I paid him on Joe. Now, I'm paying on bucks based on what I think you'll do. I can't pay you on what you've done because I've already paid you on that. Payed you for that. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. Hey, you talking like a GM now.
46:25Shannon Sharpe:I mean, look. I think that we got, I got, look. And, and, and, and.
46:33Shannon Sharpe:Got Burns. I don't know what they're going to do with Thibodeau. I don't know what they're going to do with Thib.
46:44Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Abdul Carter, he's the third pick in the draft. He ain't going nowhere. I think Thibodeau was like the fifth or the sixth pick in the draft. You got Brian Burns, who's been unbelievable.
46:58Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe. Yes, sir. That man had a half a sack last year. So what do I pay for a half a sack, Joe? Oh, Joe
47:07Chad Johnson:Hold on, that's all he had for the year? Yes Hey, Joe, he had D-tackle, Joe He taken on a double team every game, Joe And the year before he took on a double team He had eight and a half Yeah, it's hard Hey, Joe, it's hard for sacks to, you know Hard for D-tackle to come by sacks I mean, that's why Aaron Donald was Aaron Donald It's hard to do what Aaron Donald did, boy Dealing with that double team You got two 300-pound people on you every play. Yeah. Ocho.
47:36Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, he went from nine sacks to a half? Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. Ocho, I can't. I can't. Boy, that's a horrible precedent to sit. Right. Because you know what's going to happen. Guys are going to have terrible years, and they don't have any more guaranteed money. They're going to say, but you did it for Dexter. I like where you're going. I can't. I can't. I got you. He going to have to play for this one. Dang. Mm-mm. I mean, he went from seven and a half to four and a half to nine to a half a sack. I can't. I can't, Ocho. I'm sorry. Here's the fourth one. Let's take a listen. What's up, Ocho and still King Iso, man?
48:24We don't even care about you losing, man. You still a king, bro. All that stuff. All that work you done put in on them boys, man. we ain't forget bowling golf and the frisbee game we ain't forgetting that man you really what three and one against them boys right they ain't messing with you right but uh man you a cancer i'm a cancer you know i'm gonna order some of that laportier man i don't know where to get the um cigars from ocho from man so i'm gonna have to beat him up to find out about it i guess man he'll never drop him in the chat or nothing i'll never hear him say nothing about the cigars no more man what's up i gotta put these paws on you or what dog all right i'm 5 11 185 ocho boy i'll do it to you 5 11 yeah and you can't just trade from everybody bro now they made no straight them just from people that want their ass whoop and actually you know what he want he want me to put these paws on him so he can take me to court he think he's slick a young boy sign this waiver so we can get this thing on so you can see what these hands see what hell of hands you know talking back here's our last one our fifth and final one let's take a listen what up um what up iso what up ocho man i'm just 24 year old from mississippi i really just know what y 'all got going on i just want to ask a question i really really really be on my mind a lot and i'm a 24 year old like i said got two little boys and it get hard out here a lot it get real hard out here I ain't gonna lie, working a job you really don't want to do but you're just trying to make ends meet what's some advice you would give
50:00Shannon Sharpe:to me if you could give me advice what advice would you give to me, thank you and work the job that you have until you can get to find the job that you want because like you said you have other responsibilities other than yourself maybe if it was just you you could like, you know what but I'm going to kind of look for me a job that I really want to do. But in the meantime, you don't have that luxury because you have two other miles to feed. Now, I don't know if you have a girlfriend or wife or significant other. I don't know. But I just know that you said you have two little boys, and them two little boys are depending on you.
50:35Shannon Sharpe:So until you find something that you want to do or you like to do, you've got to stay where you are and stay grounded. And that happens a lot. I mean, that's the whole thing of eventually finding something that you love because there's nothing worse than being on a job that you don't want to go to. There's nothing worse than being in a relationship that you don't want to be in, Ocho. Remember, I mean, the loneliest place is to be somewhere you're not wanting. But, bro, don't give up the faith. Don't stop because, like you said, you got two little boys that are depending on you, that are counting on you.
51:11Shannon Sharpe:So until you find something that you like and that you really love to do, just stay where you are. Just keep grinding. things are going to change but hey pray about it and start putting in applications I don't know what you want to do I wish you would have said that you know I'm doing X but I really want to know why I wish you could have given us a little bit more information bro you got to hang in there man stay locked in big fella especially for them little ones whatever whatever you got to do for them to make sure they straight you know like I'm saying just lock in on X until why it comes about and comes into fruition, then you'll be able to do what you love.
51:49Man.
51:50Chad Johnson:Ain't nothing like putting a smile on them kids' faces, bro. Right. Yeah. And it don't take much, Joe. It don't, bro. It don't. It don't take much. Man, look. Hey, hey, hey. I took my kids to Andretti's today because they on spring break. What? What? Hey, I'm hell on them go-karts now. I don't play no game now. I'm hell on them go-karts. But, you know, my kids love Andretti's, bro. We go to Andretti's. Yeah, I just take my kids. Oh, man, my son, now he four years old. He play everything in there. Boy, it'd be hell to get him up out of there. Yeah, yeah, but they love it, though. They love it, man.
52:28Chad Johnson:As long as they smiling, I'm good, bro.
52:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Jiu-Jitsu, 83. Unks, Pine Bluff here. Can 100 % remember ISO winning it all. Pine Bluff, Arkansas, 42-year-old man. Love y 'all. Just wanted to say the way you interact with us fans Make us feel included That's it Three million this time next year And I'll be here Hey man, hey look
52:52Chad Johnson:I told y 'all, man I ain't gonna lie to you Because it's sound fly to you, Ocho I don't do that That ain't what I do Where I'm from, we don't get down like that You feel me? Hey Joe, that was one person Like Jay-Z said, that ain't enough You need more people Now what you want from me now? The man them vouching everything You need a one person vouch Well, Dan, how many people you want to vouch? I can make sure we get many in here now. That ain't enough. I need to see footage, Joe. I need to see footage.
53:22Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Owens 513. Hey, Unc, I interviewed Vince Buck from Central State about his senior bowl experience as an HBCU player. What was yours like, and how did it shape you? I did not go. Actually, me and VB, I think, I know I went to the East West Shrine game with VB. because VB and I came out the same year, Vince Buck. I think, I'm trying to think, where did Vince go? Did he go to New Orleans? I know D.C. because me and Darian Gorin came out also, and he was from Jackson State. He was Coach W.C. Gorin, one of W.C. Gorin's boys. I'm trying to think. But going to those bowl games and seeing those guys, I went to the Blue-Gray game, which was on Christmas in Montgomery, in Montgomery, Alabama, and then I went to the East West Shrine that was in Palo Alto.
54:15Shannon Sharpe:But to go up against those guys at the University of Miami and Notre Dame and all those guys, I mean, I knew I belonged. But, you know, to be there and to be on the field and be able to compete against those guys, I was like, yeah, man. It was an unbelievable experience. And it's great for an HBCU guy to be there and people think enough, like, you know what, let's bring him up here and see. I know what he did against lower-level competition, but let's see when we add competition if he's still willing to compete. Oh, I am. Let's see if they're still willing to compete. When they see – they ain't never seen no 6 '2", 225-pound receiver.
54:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, built like an African god. They ain't seen nothing like this here.
54:59Shannon Sharpe:The GOAT, 2-0, 2-2, Ocho, King, Iso. that Gucci man and Pouchard situation going to have going to have ever been a situation where you signed a bad contract or felt someone slided you and how did you react? Man, look you signed a contract, you're stuck that's why they get that's why they don't do in the beginning when they say word is bond that's what they meant, a contract was a meaning of the minds you agree, okay Joe, I tell you what for a pig and a bushel of corn, I'm going to trade you goat's milk or cow's milk and some chicken. Okay, we have a contract. Okay, good. But guess what? Somebody got what they intended to get first, and the other guy reneged.
55:50Shannon Sharpe:And so they say, you know what? Now, verbal contracts can still be binding. But once you put your name on the dotted line,
56:01Chad Johnson:it's a wrap.
56:03Shannon Sharpe:that's what it is it's kind of hard to get up out of it
56:08Chad Johnson:like Gucci say what damn
56:14Shannon Sharpe:that's the truth man damn but I ain't going to jail not if I just got out
56:21Chad Johnson:if I just got done doing 4-5 years shit
56:25Shannon Sharpe:I ain't going back I like freedom too much I like money I like everything I don't I'm trying to think unless they got 700, 800 million buried up under the jail somewhere I ain't really trying to go they ain't got no buried treasure I ain't heard of no buried treasure in no penalty entry no jail or nothing they ain't no buried treasure I ain't trying to go there and see that
56:51Chad Johnson:man
56:53Shannon Sharpe:Big Ant what's going on Nightcap fam in your guys' opinion Who's a better power dunker, Dominique or Sean Kemp? That's a good one. That is a very good one.
57:06Chad Johnson:Man, I think. Power? Power dunk. I ain't going to lie. Hey, look. Kemp a bad boy. He got some power. But Neek has some power. But Neek. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, Dominique was double pumping backwards on people. Man, man, was windmilling two hands. I'm talking about. Come on, man. But Sean Kemp got some nasty ones too though. Oh, you remember he dunked on Kemp? Yeah. He cuffed that thing. He come through that thing like that. Yeah. That's how I dunk through on Ocho. Boom. Oh, you. Man, I flip you. You think about dunking on me, man. I don't know what you thought this was, boy. Hey, Joe, I flip you, man.
57:51By the time you jump, you're going to be on your head, Joe. Hey Joe I'm not one of them Joe I'm not one of your little NBA friends Joe Like I play dirty boy You hear me? Jailhouse ball Hey Ocho And your best bet is to have a referee too
58:08Chad Johnson:I don't need that Ocho I'm built for the bullshit You know what I mean I'm built for that Okay
58:13Shannon Sharpe:Oh we missed one I missed one I gotta go back Dr. Frank L. Bellamy is like how are you guys doing Are you all taking care of yourselves Are you getting enough rest no I'm good I ain't gonna lie Ocho I slept till like 11 o 'clock today when oh so you in Miami and chose to get beauty rest instead of hit your boy hey I'm in town I've done two podcasts this will be my fifth podcast in two days what does that have to do with seeing me hollering at your boy
58:51Chad Johnson:I'm looking at you right now. I'm looking at your black ass right now. I could have took you to breakfast or something. I could have treated you something. I'm glad you ain't hit his ass. Damn it, man. Ain't anybody studying that. I'm glad you hit him. All right. All right. Burn rub on his ass when you get up out of here, too. Yeah, OK. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, you almost on my last word, man. I'm telling you now. Like my grandma used to say now. All right.
59:19Shannon Sharpe:Man, yeah, man. Yeah, I be bad. I be, oh. Man, I be trying to get some sleep on the plane.
59:28Chad Johnson:You don't have no problem sleeping on the plane?
59:30Shannon Sharpe:I get it, but I can't.
59:31Chad Johnson:You don't have no problem sleeping on the plane, huh?
59:33Shannon Sharpe:I do have. I can probably get like 10, 15 minutes. I can't sleep. Like, Jordan, before they even take off board to sleep.
59:42Chad Johnson:Hey, hey. You see Jordan back there like this girl. Hey, Jordan, that's me. I'm telling you. Hey, look, the only thing that wake me up is when we hit the ground too hard. Boom, boom, damn. What's going on? Yeah, I be knocked out. Going to the airport.
59:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, well, damn. So much for the conversation we were supposed to have. That joke, that joke got narcolepsy. That joke would sleep anywhere. Yeah, I sleep good on the plane, too, but I sleep good. No matter how short or how long. Whoa, Paul.
1:00:18Chad Johnson:What'd I say? No matter how short or how long. the flight I said no matter how short or long the flight I said the flight I just said pause come on Joe I said flight
1:00:34Shannon Sharpe:Daniel Wells 4970 big three question how do you guys choose your game day accessory do you guys like the color coordinate gloves cleat shoes and elbow bands with the jersey nah hell nah I mean they already picked that out I mean you got a home jersey you we didn't have all those jerseys that they got now ocho we had a home jersey we had a
1:00:55Chad Johnson:road jersey hey hey that's it home pants not me i ain't gonna lie to y 'all i like that when i get my ankles tape up and we wearing our red uniforms for the house i want that red tape down there on my you know i mean they're coming up out my sock yeah i want that i want that red tape down there if we playing on the road i want my i want my i want whatever i'm getting my ankles tape whatever color jersey we wear, that's what color I want on my tape. Yeah. Yeah.
1:01:26Shannon Sharpe:You might be superstitious. Maybe.
1:01:28Chad Johnson:I just like to kind of color coordinate a little bit. You know what I mean? Nah.
1:01:35Shannon Sharpe:On the road, we were in white, and at home, we were in orange or blue. Later, we got, for the most part, white and orange, or white on white.
1:01:48Chad Johnson:don't you ain't had nothing you ain't had no i know you had some accessories you they were catching them hey i hey orange shoes orange chin strap orange gloves black shoes black chin strap black gloves i i just paid the fine joe how much was a fine i mean it went up every time first offense 5 000 second offense, 15, no, 10, second offense, third offense, probably went to 25. I ain't care, Joe. I just picked and choose when to do it. I wore gold cleats depending on who we were playing. Hey, you know what? When you look at these guys now, especially in the NBA, they ain't even got to, they shoes ain't even got to match their jerseys no more.
1:02:31Chad Johnson:Yeah, I mean, you look at Boston here. They got green uniforms. It might be somebody there with some orange shoes. Yeah.
1:02:38Shannon Sharpe:Red. Look at LeBron. LeBron ain't had shoes yet to match his uniform.
1:02:45Shannon Sharpe:Hey, LeBron coming out with him 23, he's like, look, these gonna be available. Go buy these. Damn this uniform. Damn this uniform. Right, facts, facts. Hoodie Jim Ray, Ocho Batesman said, McDonald's is a preventative medicine. I mean, the proof is in the pudding. It's a scientific fact. scientific fact Brendan Crowe do you guys believe the top three wideouts in the draft are Tate, Lemon, Tyson or the three sleepers out there like Ted Hurst, Chris Bell and Bryce Lance I think Lemon was it Lemon or Tyson that won the Blitnikoff award I think he's the guy from USC I like Tate look those wideouts It's hard to pick against Ohio State wide receivers because you've seen the production.
1:03:42Shannon Sharpe:You see Olave. You see Garrett Wilson. You see Ibuka. You see JSN. Marvin Harrison Jr. Off to a little slow start, but Ocho, baby, he lose a little weight, get some flexibility back, and become that. So we've seen the success that the Ohio State receivers have had over the last several years. So it's hard. It's really, really hard for me to say, like, you know what? I'm going to take somebody over one of those guys because they are coached up extremely well they compete they got big catch radius they're good running after the catch and based on what I've seen it'd be hard for me to pick against Tate
1:04:22Chad Johnson:y 'all think old boy Jeremiah Smith going to be number one pick next year no question about it number one if he have another season like he's had the previous two years number one. I ain't seen a quarterback.
1:04:40Shannon Sharpe:What if Arch Manning plays next season like he played the last four games?
1:04:51Shannon Sharpe:That's a good one. Because we were talking about the last four games and he showed out the bowl. He did. And he's a quarterback. I mean, I'm trying to think. The last wide receiver that went number one on ball was what, Keyshawn? 96? Yeah, it hasn't been that long? I don't think you know. Yeah, Keyshawn, 96. And before that was Irving Pryor in 84. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Joe, he's special. I know. Because, you know, remember Calvin was number two behind Jamarcus. Jamarcus Russell, yep. So I don't think, and I could be wrong, but I think the last wide receiver to go number one overall was Keyshawn in 96.
1:05:32Shannon Sharpe:And that was the year they had a bunch of receivers go. T.O. was in that draft. Marvin Harrison was in that draft. Moose and Mahoney was in that draft. I think Eric Mose was also in that draft, if I'm not mistaken now. Hey, Eric Mose was big than a joker, boy. He was big. Him and Peel is price. Kevin Boatnight. Who should we take at 27? I'm stressing over here the 49ers.
1:05:59Shannon Sharpe:Might need a wide receiver. I don't know if it wasn't going to be available. another one who they got yeah who they signed Ricky Purcell, Mike Evans Mike Evans, okay
1:06:19Shannon Sharpe:Purcell, Purcell Jennings hadn't signed with anyone he's not back yet Ayuk is gone, the other guy what was the guy he ended up going to Arizona we had him on the show, I forget his name
1:06:36Shannon Sharpe:he was in New England he was in San Fran goes to New England then comes back to Kendrick Bourne Kendrick Bourne yes what you think what you think they need D line DBs
1:06:55Shannon Sharpe:they just got to stay healthy that's it I mean they don't really have a weakness I say maybe a DB a solid DB TS Carwatch detailed service I say Denver coming out of the west I don't curse around my parents my elders tell me about Terrell Davis man you would like that bro I just love the way he came in and just work he started like number six on the jump chart and every day in practice he just got better and better and getting better now I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I knew he's gonna be that because I didn't I just knew he worked hard and like I said he getting practice and hey he make it happen but it was that play in Japan on the kickoff team that he came in like man who is our boy I said man that's that running back TD I said they gonna move his ass to DB talking about TD bro they put him in and he didn't look back he was special obviously he made the hall of fame but there wasn't a better big game running back than Juke he was like that he was like that And I'm talking about any big game that we had, he was showing up.
1:08:05Shannon Sharpe:He was going to do his thing. Darkborn, Ocho Aiso, what are your thoughts on Arkansas assistant Chuck Martin joining Coach Malone with the Tar Heels? Damn, man.
1:08:18Chad Johnson:I love Martin and what he's helped Coach Cal, you know, do up there in Fayetteville, up in northwest Arkansas. I hate to see him leave, man. And obviously, they probably dropped him off with a big bag. Okay, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For him to dip like that. But, you know, good luck to him. But we got a young class coming in this year, fellas. Y 'all thought Darius Acuff was nice. Now, I ain't going to say they're going to win SEC player of the year and freshman of the year and all that. But we got a class coming in, bro, that's going to be like that. Y 'all got something special. Yeah, it's going to be like that.
1:08:55Chad Johnson:Yes, sir.
1:08:58Shannon Sharpe:Tito underscore SB, Unc Ocho, still King Iso. You guys watching the Masters all weekend was hoping Bryson DeChambeau could win it, but doesn't look good. I think Rory is tied for the league. Rory won it last year. I don't know. I used to see a stat, no wonder this led opening day has gone on to win the Masters. Normally the guy starts off slow, is in striking distance, and then picks it up over the next three days. but I really look I like golf I mean they better not let Scotty Sheffler get close all he do is win win win I mean I don't I don't I like golf I don't watch it as much as I once did like when Tiger was playing I watch you know I find myself sitting down because I want to see what Tiger would do especially the majors and see him with that red and those black pants making that charge but on Sunday I just want to go I just want to go and get no ash.
1:09:58Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody eat no pimental cheese, but they still got the prices like they had in the original. So a sandwich would cost you like a dollar. Soda is like 50 cents.
1:10:07Chad Johnson:You ever went to the Masters, huh?
1:10:09Shannon Sharpe:I have not. I had an opportunity to go, but man, I ain't go. It's too much walking. I can't walk. I'm stuck. I'm stuck like Chuck. Man, they still over those, I think it's what, four or five days, they do$70 million in merchandise.
1:10:31Shannon Sharpe:Everybody want those hats, those T-shirts, those cups. $70 million in five days. I can see that. Jonathan B. Good. Any chance bring molecule or genital on nightcap? What do you want them to do? You just want to have a conversation?
1:10:55no
1:10:57Shannon Sharpe:keep down Anderson Ocho nothing wrong with eating groceries been doing it since I was 18 I'm 26 there we go hey that's what the saying they say get behind it hold on
1:11:14Chad Johnson:now I know we talked about you know we know Ocho like to eat groceries and all that but both of y 'all like y 'all groceries ate so I don't know what's worth yeah whoa whoa whoa Joe you get lumped into it hey all I said
1:11:34Shannon Sharpe:hey they call you boy cars call of duty Ocho I be crawling Ocho I be crawling I'm just saying that's all hey Joe you got to live a little bit man
1:11:43Chad Johnson:Ocho I'm living I know I know Joe you know you know joe you living inside your box you need to get outside the box okay so the things in life that you haven't done and you haven't experienced and i i want i want that for you i want that for you i'm sure you're watching the show is tell her tell her tell her don't you know don't you know when my lady got up man that was topic of discussion she said she so many of her had done sent her.
1:12:14Chad Johnson:She say, what's wrong with Ocho? She's like, I said, I don't know, baby. You know, we good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, y 'all in the same boat. Yeah, yeah. That was topic of discussion. Nah, come on. Hey, hey, hey. Think about this. She up at 7.30 in the morning talking to me about this. I'm like, baby, come on now. Yeah. Hey. Nah, we good. We good over here. I'll be good. Hey, it's just good.
1:12:40Shannon Sharpe:I mean, that's Ocho. I'll be trying to. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Joe, it's on her mind. Joe, just go ahead and, man, just let it happen, man. Just, you know, so you can come back and tell us about your experience. Nah, we good, Ocho. I mean, these kids starting off young with this stuff, man. Gotta get off. Hey, Joe. Hey, Unc, it's on TV everywhere, man. It's on TV. But now, come on. I mean, I just want to know who. I want to know who was the first guy that, like, man, guess what I did last night, old lady.
1:13:05Chad Johnson:Hey, hey. whoever he was I guarantee he was under the influence boy you got to be under the influence doing that I don't drink Joe you got to be doing something boy
1:13:21Shannon Sharpe:but he wanted to get his stripes you know he a tongue fool man nah he got to do it hey Joe sometimes you like to set the standard man that's all nah okay but see but like you said he said oh how you think i get them 12. oh okay hey hey joe oh okay i see what's going on okay ain't got ain't gonna hey no ain't got nothing to do you know joe i ain't spending no money i see you ain't got to hell if you if you eating groceries yeah hey that ain't that that's that's just half the story hey joe hey joe that's just half the story joe huh put that baby put that baby knee on him. Hey, man, listen, man. Hey, say, you know, they here for a good time.
1:14:06Not a long time, Joe.
1:14:08Shannon Sharpe:Nah, Ocho, man, you gotta stop. Ocho got to be stop chat. Y 'all tell Ocho he wrong. I'm wrong. Hey, y 'all put those emojis in there with the throwing up with him. Hey, yeah, no. Okay, Ocho, y 'all gotta chill, bro.
1:14:24Chad Johnson:Y 'all gotta chill. Hey, Joe, it's all about this. doing that joe i be chilling joe i ain't like that i ain't on that time did you see hey oh did you see that man standing up the other night and spread his cheeks talking about some yeah did you see that yeah i saw that hey joe you got joe you gotta lean over the bed joe don't be scared man lean over the bed huh and tell tell her do the hit do the donkey punch tell her punch in the back of the air. What did you think? What was it, man? Yeah. Yeah, Joe. I'm telling you, Joe. Y 'all got, y 'all got, hey, Joe, I'm, hey, I'm going to see you some video, Joe.
1:15:02Shannon Sharpe:I'm about to be 58, oh, Joe. I just, I just, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to, just trying to make it. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you want me to see you some video for visual reference?
1:15:13Chad Johnson:That's another episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for tuning.
1:15:20Chad Johnson:let's cue his ass about it
1:15:24Shannon Sharpe:would you ever entertain a nightcap roast if so name three comedians a piece and y 'all would have to have to have in on it you down for a roast Ocho yeah yeah boy hold on who get roasted Kevin Hart about to get roasted we all get roasted I'm an easy target though I'm so easy to roast. No, I'm the easiest target right now. No, you ain't. No, you ain't. Because I say stuff that is roastable and don't care. So I'm an easier target than you. Yeah, but I had some incidences off the camera. No, that ain't. No. No. My roasting would be way worse than yours. Well, I sure hope so. Hey, I wear the same pants every single day.
1:16:16don't take them off hey Joe they done killed my cheetah pants nah you done killed your damn cheetah
1:16:22Chad Johnson:pants yeah
1:16:27Joe
1:16:28Shannon Sharpe:this was for you it says hey Ocho need to teach ISO and eat the stuff stuffed crust pizza from the back man come on bro yeah thank you for joining us for another episode of Black Cap y 'all know who I am damn Come on, man. Man, y 'all doing too much, man. Man, y 'all, come on now. Man, don't be falling up with all your foolishness.
1:16:52Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, but the one thing I do know, I know he ain't the only one out here doing it, though. He ain't the only one. He definitely ain't the only one. Nah, nah, y 'all just not, y 'all haven't matured yet, that's all. I'm fully mature. Yeah. Nah.
1:17:08Shannon Sharpe:Lord have mercy.
1:17:15Shannon Sharpe:I mean, if this was going on when I was young, Joe, if this was what it was taking when we, Joe, I don't know what we were doing, Ocho, Joe.
1:17:23Chad Johnson:Man, come on. Hey, look, when I was young, I mean, like, when I was a little youngster in my teenage years, I never heard of this. I ain't never heard of cats doing that. No!
1:17:34Shannon Sharpe:And if a guy did it, the girl would get mad. And once the girl got mad, and that's why you ate my such as. I'm like, oh, you, oh! Yeah. Oh, this is. yeah that insult don't work no more it worked back to you yeah it don't work no more that's like you know you call a girl promiscuous you call her HOE that don't work no more you know they proud of that stuff now so there's really nothing there's really no way to insult you know us people with free spirits
1:18:02Chad Johnson:you keep your free spirit in there
1:18:06Shannon Sharpe:yeah I'm like me and Joe Joe we're lying we're lying on this one you on your own though Joe Oh, now you're backing out, huh? See, Ocho, that friend, Ocho, that friend that would take one for the team. So you got to keep a guy like Ocho with you all the time. Because you know girls, everybody ain't going to be the 10, 12. There going to be some tools and fusing them. You know what I'm saying? So when that few couple, they ain't going to want to split. They've been taught. We got to stick together. You see how you lying, Joe? That's how my boy Ocho coming in. Hey, you ain't never seen the twos and fuses in my head.
1:18:44Shannon Sharpe:Hold on, but just because they ain't seen. No, not, no. When you was growing up, you had some twos and fuses. Hey, hold on. Y 'all ain't never had to take one for the team?
1:18:54Chad Johnson:Oh, no. Even in your younger year, your younger year, you ain't never had to take one. I was too good of an athlete. Joe, I was too good of an athlete. Ocho, you ain't never, I know Ocho ain't took one for the team, yeah. Absolutely not, bro. I was that boy in high school. What'd I look like?
1:19:07Shannon Sharpe:Nah, we had a homeboy for that. Yeah, we all did. That homeboy. hey Joe I was him in high school Joe I get there yeah you talk about take one hey how I'm taking one and I am one
1:19:22Chad Johnson:what about when you got to college oh definitely oh absolutely not come on Joe oh so y 'all got a golden tip huh no y 'all got a platinum tip hey Joe it's so funny you said that it's so funny you said that Joe they used to call me golden in college They used to call me Goldie.
1:19:44Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Ocho, you know why Joe asked me this question? You know Joe was that guy that took a couple of blows. Yeah. Joe took a couple of blows. Joe took a couple of blows. He's a crash.
1:19:53Chad Johnson:No, I'm saying it may have been some unfortunate situation. I might have, you know,
1:20:03Chad Johnson:had to entertain somebody for, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. A little conversation, huh? You know, conversation route. Okay.
1:20:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'll get a call with this. Yeah, yeah, but no, no, I had a homeboy. I had a homeboy named Michaud.
1:20:14Chad Johnson:It didn't matter. It didn't matter what came through the door. No, it did not matter. Why, hey? Did not matter. Hey, hey, I got some home. Hey, hey, hey, I'm like, hey, damn, she got a friend.
1:20:25Shannon Sharpe:I need to keep her occupied. I said, hey, take me down here. Let me see. Hey, Michaud, I need a favor. What's your favor? Hey, show me what you need. I said, man, I need you. Hey. Michaud. Come on, I can't go, hey. Michaud, take one for the kitchen. a real trooper to this day I guarantee you I can call my sister and say hey Libby go find Michaud hey I got a ticket for you go to the airport I need you to take one Michaud getting on the plane no questions asked
1:20:57Chad Johnson:get on the plane right now hey look we all got some homeboys who done took one but I done seen some of my partners come through with some boogalwood hey I call my - Woo! Some what, some what Joe? Yeah, Booga Wolf. I'm talking about Ocho. I call my partner one morning, boy, that boy was up early in the morning. I'm like, what the hell you doing up so early? He trying to sneak out? Trying to sneak out of the house. Just so happened I was up. When I seen that girl come, I said, woo, woo! Boy, y 'all be ashamed of yourselves.
1:21:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I got a homeboy. I ain't gonna call his name, because I know he be watching it. They gonna be on it. look here Ocho I say man you must be a zookeeper because I know you get this one from the zoo ain't no way I'm talking about it might be let's just say 300 people in there and out of the 300 they might be say let's just say for the sake of argument 25-30 times he gonna find the worst looking one and be posted up and then because you know I'm over in the corner I'm up in the cut and then he gonna come hey I said look here man meet me in the truck at 12 don't you come back over here I'm be in the truck at 12 don't you come back over here by me because I don't want nobody to think oh absolutely hey boy listen boy I'm talking about I'm talking about I don't know what I say.
1:22:33Shannon Sharpe:And I told him, he'll tell you this. I say, of all the women in here, you pick them. Hey. Bring him to Denver, he come to Denver, it's the exact same thing. I'm like, you know you don't have to do this though, right?
1:22:51Chad Johnson:You know why they do it? Hey, they want somebody with low self-esteem, man. I understand low, but no? You're not getting low, but no.
1:23:06Shannon Sharpe:Now, I'm good. It's mutual. Ocho, with the World Cup coming up, we're going to see y 'all at a game. If not, we're getting some coverage on it. Yes, we're definitely covered. Real football talked about on night camp. Yeah, Ocho trying to get me to go to a game now. We're definitely going to cover it. I'm trying to see what's close by. Atlanta? Yeah. He's going to be jumping out here. I think they got something do they got anything in Vegas? Do they got anything at Allegiant Stadium? I know they got something at SoFi.
1:23:44Shannon Sharpe:That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I want to thank you guys for watching. I want to thank our special guests for joining us also. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co-host, the Fugazi King, a former being. being a ring of fame, a former pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And the third member of the big three, a seven time NBA all-star from the Atlanta Hawks, Little Rock, Arkansas native. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from.
1:24:21Shannon Sharpe:Thank you guys. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by LaPortier, Head over to LaportierCognac.com if it's unavailable in a state or city near you. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. I want to thank our very special guests. Oh, first of all, the Knicks beat the Celtics 112-106, thanks to two dagger threes in the fourth quarter by Josh Hart. He was the leading scorer, scored 15 of his 26 in the fourth. Jalen Brunson added 25-10 as they beat the Boston Celtics 112-106. And Kevin Durant scores 29 as the Rockets beat the 76ers 113-102.
1:25:05Shannon Sharpe:But the Sixers were missing Joel Embiid, who had an emergency appendectomy due to an acute appendicitis. Very special guest joining us tonight, Ohio State defensive tackle Caden McDonald. 62326 All-American projected a first-round pick. Seems so exciting, full of personality, man. We wish him and his family all the best on that big night two weeks from Thursday. Again, thank you guys for joining us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. I'm Unc, he's Ocho, he's Aiso. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you Saturday.
1:25:39Chad Johnson:Thank you, guys. Peace out.
1:25:55Lösünü approach, enhiancando felt and genuine.: Palooza Palooza
1:26:26Peace to the planet. Charlamagne Tha God here. And listen, we are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yard. Yeah. And the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grits and Eggs podcast. Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague and the gang.
1:26:43Shannon Sharpe:Don't call me white, girl. Mona will be there. Keep it positive, sweetie, with Crystal Renee. We got Reality with the King with Carlos King. And yes, Drink Champ will be in the building. Plus, you know, we're going to have a lot of guests. So you need to join us. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace, the picture podcast and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. Don't play yourself, OK? Pull up.
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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Allen Iverson calling out the modern NBA for load management, Chet Holmgren has been a number one seed his entire career, Myles Garrett skipped the start of teams off-season program and much more!
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0:00 - Allen Iverson calling out modern NBA stars load managing
16:25 - Chet has finished as a #1 seed his entire career
18:40 - Myles Garrett skipped the start of team’s offseason program
34:35 - Jags expect Travis Hunter to be a full time corner and part time receiver next season
39:50 - Q & Aaayyy
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