In short
Sports talk-heavy episode mixing NBA All-NBA voting controversy, Oklahoma City/ Chet Holmgren postseason role questions, and WNBA playoff/season outlook led by Angel Reese and the Atlanta Dream. Also includes a segment about Azzi Fudd’s third-quarter surge and a brief “celebrity game”/footage joke.
Guests
No named guests appear in the transcript. The hosts are “Joe” and “Ocho” (referred to repeatedly), plus “Uncle Ocho” and “Joe Scott” are mentioned as voices/figures in discussion.
Key claims
- All-NBA teams: Shea and Jokic unanimous MVPs; Wembanyama allegedly left off ballots (99 votes) and should have been unanimous; questions about who voted Wemby/Shea.
- Holmgren (Chet) is viewed as too “robotic/methodical” and not comfortable under postseason pressure when J-Dub is out; he must take a bigger offensive load.
- Jalen Duren is eligible for a massive supermax extension (~$287.1M) and Detroit “can’t let him go,” though postseason scoring consistency is questioned.
- WNBA: Azzi Fudd and Paige Bueckers’ three-guard approach can be dangerous, but rebounding/interior defense is the concern; Angel Reese is a “double-double machine” and the Dream are positioned to contend.
Notable examples
- Specific All-NBA teams listed (1st: Shea, Jokic, Luka, Cade; 2nd: Jalen Brown, Kawhi, Donovan Mitchell, Kevin Durant, Jalen Brunson; 3rd includes Chet Holmgren and Jalen Duren).
- WNBA game recap: Atlanta Dream beat Phoenix Mercury 82-80 with a 9-0 run; Ryan Howard 21, Alicia Gray 17, Angel Reese 17 points/10 rebounds; Jordan Canada 11 points/14 rebounds.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChet Holmgren's Performance Analysis
2:16 to 3:15
Discuss the implications of Chet Holmgren's skills and contributions.
“To me, he had a lot of grace because the Thunder have been successful and his defense is extraordinary.”
Evaluating Player Expectations
3:15 to 4:28
Examine the expectations placed on high-profile players like Chet.
“Yes, he's capable of doing much more when he's playing against other teams.”
Comparing Player Dynamics
4:28 to 5:38
Analyze how player dynamics shift with injuries and team roles.
“I've been random raving about Chick since last season.”
On-Set Makeup Tips for TV
5:38 to 7:17
Learn about makeup techniques used in television.
“Ocho, we've seen that number two receiver.”
Analyzing Player Performance
12:42 to 14:00
Discuss the impact of player performance on team success.
“Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?”
Game Debates and Player Performances
14:24 to 16:44
Discussing game highlights, player performances, and turnovers.
“Hey, hey, hey, hey, I've seen a lot of stuff, little suspect just in that little video.”
Analyzing NBA All-Team Selections
16:44 to 19:56
Reviewing the NBA All-Team selections and standout performances.
“So now I get a better understanding of what the people in the NBA got to deal with when Wimby out there.”
Jalen Duren's Supermax Eligibility Discussion
19:56 to 22:45
Exploring Jalen Duren's contract situation and potential earnings.
“Luka and Cade Cunningham round out the first team all NBA selections.”
Pandora's Box of NBA Rules
22:45 to 25:15
Examining the implications of new NBA rules on player contracts.
“One of the NBA teams, you get a defensive player of the year.”
Jalen Brown's Controversial Stance
25:15 to 28:05
Discussing Jalen Brown's statements and social consciousness.
“I'm trying to figure out who the F voted Wimby second team.”
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JB's Impact on the Game
28:05 to 28:34
A look at JB's skills and social consciousness in basketball.
“and i understand that he really sincerely wants to make the world he wants to make america a better place but somebody someone really likes the status quo wait this is a soda yeah And it has protein?”
Basketball Discussions and Opinions
32:50 to 42:00
A lively debate on players' skills, roles, and impacts on the game.
“Hey, when he thing get a hold of you, boy, and I play through contact, and you, uh, and I get that shot off, hey, Joe, I'm going to get to my midi by, hey, by any means necessary.”
Analysis of Fudd's Performance
42:00 to 43:10
Discusses the impact of Azzi Fudd's performance and team dynamics.
“but Fudd had 17 of a 24 in the third quarter Buckets, Paige Beckers had 24 and Dallas Mavericks made 7 three-pointers in the quarter to go up 71-61 leading into 5 to 10 minutes.”
Guard Play and Game Strategies
43:10 to 44:10
Examines the effectiveness of guards in recent games and strategies employed.
“Man, I went and watched the Dallas team play against the Dream the other day.”
Highlighting Key Players and Their Skills
44:10 to 45:25
Highlights the skills of players like Paige Beckers and their contributions to the game.
“three, four years ago, we played in this celebrity little game together.”
The Rise of the Atlanta Dream
45:25 to 46:45
Discusses the Atlanta Dream's recent performance and key players contributing to their success.
“But if you tell me they're going to do that, Odyssey Sims on the team too.”
Challenges and Opportunities in the WNBA
46:45 to 48:15
Analyzes the challenges faced by teams like the Phoenix Mercury and opportunities for others.
“Hey, Angel Reese out there getting them FGAs up there.”
Transcript
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2:49Shannon Sharpe:To me, he had a lot of grace because the Thunder have been successful and his defense is extraordinary. But at times like this, when J-Dub is not out there, theoretically, Holmgren should be in position to carry heavy offensive load. Eventually, he questions whether he is enough to be the number two pick, to be an elite defender, but largely a play finisher will become a conversation, especially when he's individually capable of so much more. Joe, do you agree? Ocho, go ahead. Ocho, go ahead. You want to take it? Yes, he's capable of doing much more when he's playing against other teams. Now, all that changes when you're playing against the alien.
3:29Because you're not able to do what you want to do defensively. You're not able to do what you want to do offensively. Because he changes everything because of his length and his height. now everything he just said he's saying it now in the postseason because of who he's playing against you would have never written anything like that during the regular season because he gets to do what he want because he's at an advantage most of the time when he plays night by night because of
3:54Shannon Sharpe:his height i understand what the guy is saying he said with jdub out you should be their second a best player. He's looked anything but that. I don't give a damn. Bro, I'm paying you $239 million. Who you playing to get should not matter. So just imagine, I'm paying you that kind of money, Ocho, so if you go against the number one corner, I should expect you to get me four for like$36, huh? $239,$5 for$239.
4:27We got to have a conversation. You ain't say y 'all last. I need better context. You ain't tell me a nigga 239.
4:35Chad Johnson:Hey, hey. My thing is, y 'all know me. I've been random raving about Chick since last season. You know, I always felt, you know, if his productivity gets higher, it can make them a dynasty. It can make them a lot tougher team to beat. Because I do think defensively he's pretty solid.
4:52Shannon Sharpe:Yes.
4:52Chad Johnson:But he has to lighten the load up for Shea, bro. Yes. And I'm going to be honest with y 'all, man. I'm not sure his game is capable of that. You know, I think when J-Dub is out there, it's so much pressure taken off him that he's able to kind of fly under the radar and, you know, be great sometimes. You know, he ain't not so great other times. I mean, hell, look at the finals last year, bro. Outside of the last game, game seven, I think he had like 17 and 12, or 19 and 12 last game. Hell, he was averaging 10 points a game, Uncle Ocho, in the finals last year. You know what I mean? So, I think he has to find a way, bro, to try to put his stamp on this series because they going to need him.
5:40Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we've seen that number two receiver. That long as he's playing inside that number one. He eaten. The minute he goes somewhere else, and now he's getting Revis, he's getting the number one DB to cover his ass. He don't look nothing like he did when he was the number two and the number one was getting the number one DB. Yeah, it's a difference. So now, as being the number three, he gets thrust in the number two spot because J-Dub isn't there. Yeah. So now, when you got Chet, when you got Shea, and they doing an outstanding job on Shea, you're like, okay, this is my time to shine. But like you say, Joe, if you watch him, he's really robotic.
6:26Shannon Sharpe:He's very, very methodical. Ain't nothing like whoo, just fluid, like ah, ah. Like Joe Scott said, everything is free and easy, like the breeze. That ain't him. You know, when I watch him, and I watched him, and I've seen him several times, it looks like he's thinking about what he's going to do.
6:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, he's very indecisive on a lot of things that he's trying to do. and I think for me when I watch a lot of these cats play, bro, is how comfortable can you be under pressure? And he just don't look that comfortable to me, fellas. I'm just, you know, I got to be honest. I mean, they whole team looked a little out of whack tonight, you know. I don't know if it was because Pop came in the locker room and said something, but damn it, they took it personal, whatever it was.
7:16Shannon Sharpe:Guys, if you're in television, I don't know how many guys have ever been around television. These are called or blocks. So what they do is they take the oil out of your skin. So they use these first and then they put makeup on you. So I don't really do a whole lot of makeup since that debacle that I had. You know, I had it my first year at ESPN. They had me looking like Randy Jackson, a cross between Randy Jackson and Lil Richard. But I normally just use anti-shine. But these, what they use to take the oil out of the skin first, then they apply and then they'll put a little makeup on over the top of those.
7:49Shannon Sharpe:So that's what that is. hey i'll get you get you one of these towels like i do man you know every so all that just i just wipe the face yeah how much how much them cost a little pack of them i'm gonna try them man i don't even know joe uh oh joe you can go get them at uh sephoria what's the name of it uh alter got them and sephoria sephora you know you can just steal a hotel towel he's free hey hold on what they call oil block what are they all control uh control film so they just take they just take the oil out of your skin hey joe hey joe i look no no no no no no no no first of all if black blacks secrete that's why we we don't wrinkle because we have a lot of oil on our skin and that's why we we are less likely to have wrinkles but in the t formation if you go to a specialist right here the tea is that where you secrete a lot of a lot of the oil so that's why you know if you notice i do a lot of this i do this which is the tea area so why y 'all don't never tell me why you don't tell me about me being oily if i look oily you calling me shiny
9:01Chad Johnson:hey joe i look shiny joe nah nah you look like a little milk dog you good bro
9:10okay hey okay i like that okay okay yeah but normally like when i do uh club shesha especially
9:19Shannon Sharpe:in la i have a makeup my girl brett brett i know you're watching probably maybe um comes in and you know do me or do the uh uh uh the guest a lot like when i travel like when we travel she He normally travels with us and do that also. So I'm probably going to find somebody here to come in if I'm back on TV and I get an opportunity. So I have somebody to do that so everything looks the same so it doesn't look like, damn, he's professionally done. Then go out here like, well, damn, he just crawled out of bed.
9:53Before we move on, we've got some footage of Ocho
9:58Shannon Sharpe:and the participation of Tee Higgins' celebrity game, Joe. Let's take a look.
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14:23Hit that thing.
14:27Hit that thing, boy. Stop playing. Man, where the defense at?
14:32Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
14:34Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that's two turnovers, Ocho. I only had two. Ocho, you didn't play for five minutes. What the defense? I played the whole game. What are you talking about? I ain't come out. I'm in shape. Where the rest of it?
14:49Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, hey, I've seen a lot of stuff, little suspect just in that little video. You can take advantage of Joe. Hold on, time out, time out, time out. Where's the rest of the points? That's all we got. Hey, come on. Hey, who edited that, man? That ain't got nothing to do with us. The hell? Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, who edited that? Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. Them handles look so suspect, bro. Joe, no, no, it came off my shoe. Yeah, come off your shoe my ass. Listen, let me tell you so. Them handles look so, bro, you not gonna score a bucket. Joe, Joe, hey, let me, Joe, we watched the game tonight, right?
15:31You watched the Spurs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We watched the Spurs and the Thunder, right? You know what they had tonight, Joe? What they had turnovers, Joe? What they had? What they had? What you trying to say? You acting like people don't turn the ball over, Joe. I went to cross over to my left, I went to cross over to my left, and it hit my foot. They didn't steal the ball. It's still a turnover. It's still a turnover. Okay, okay. Well, hell, I ain't Darin Fox. Hey, but I had eight points out there on them boys. Hey, Joe, you seen the shot? I seen it, I seen it, I seen it. Hey Joe, hold on, hold on Joe.
16:04You ain't seen the fluidity and the follow through right? I seen it, I seen it. Hey Joe, I break my wrist so good I look gay. Huh? You ain't, hey Joe.
16:13Shannon Sharpe:They got that talk about Ocho look like that Carfax Fox. Hey, what's that? What's the Carfax? What's Carfax?
16:21Chad Johnson:In that commercial. Hey. He don't know nothing about it. I see you had them Kyries on. How them Kyries felt? Oh, but it had me feeling good. I think that's probably why I got eight, Joe. Yeah. Hey, Joe, them boys. Hey, I know I'd be on here playing around, talking about what I can do. Boy, once you're on that court with them boys, that's 6 '5 and up, it's a different ball game. So now I get a better understanding of what the people in the NBA got to deal with when Wimby out there. It's very uncomfortable for me. Hey, so imagine the hell you gonna have with me.
16:55Shannon Sharpe:I was trying to figure out how you talk. Yo, we the same, we by the same height, yo. I'm six four, me and Joe the same height. Joe, he told us last night, he had eight, nine and three.
17:09That's what I had, eight, nine and three. No, I told my real stat line. That's why I asked you where the rest of the damn footage.
17:16Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. That look like it right there. Yeah, y 'all cheated me, man. Y 'all trying to make me look bad because I'm black. The 6ix9ine you talking about. Y 'all trying to make me look black because I'm black. Hey, Joe, they talking about the 6ix9ine, he talking about is in the bedroom. That's the only 6ix9ine he got going on. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
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17:32Chad Johnson:And they know he frees too. Yeah, they know that. Yeah, hey, I like, I like, hey, matter of fact, now that y 'all mentioned that too, you should try standing up. You hear me all? Oh, you don't hold up. So hold up. Yeah, yeah, hold upside down.
17:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Try that Joe. I'm just saying I might have, but I was to the side. You know what I'm saying? Don't you all to the side like this? I'm just saying I ain't saying I may or may not have experienced something like that. I'm just saying I was like I was talking to somebody. Hey, I got you. I got you. Hold on. Hold on. I don't like how y 'all ain't post all my footage. That was all that was said to us for Joe. That's it? Aw, they see, they, they. Hey, Joe, hey, forget all that, Joe. Boy, you seen that shot though, huh?
18:20Chad Johnson:I seen it, I seen it, bro. Hey Joe, you ain't see the wrist, huh? I seen it, I seen it, I seen it. I seen it. Hey Joe, hey, oh. Hey, please be there when I play Joe. Please. Oh, I'll be there, I'ma make sure of that. Hey, hey, Joe, I'm telling you, I'ma have your ass on skates, boy, you hear me? Hey, Unc, Unc, Unc, Unc, Unc, gonna have to pull the reins. He'll be like, Joe, that's enough. That's enough. Don't do him like that. Hey, I'ma have Joe so frustrated, Unc, he gonna hit me how Wimby hit dude in the neck with the elbow. Hey, Joe, I'ma get you ejected, boy. I'ma make you fight me one or the other.
18:53Either way, both of them gonna be a loss.
18:55Chad Johnson:Either way, you gonna get your ass whooped. Either way, you gonna get your ass whooped. Hey, hey, you see how Lance Stevenson body slammed B's Lance. I was like, hey, I ain't know all these fights
19:07Shannon Sharpe:would happen, Johnny Manziel fought, Ray J got caught with a smooth right.
19:13Chad Johnson:Man. Hey, what was that we were watching last night, what was that? Hey, hey, them boys were going, hey, them boys were going.
19:21Shannon Sharpe:Man, you see that dude hit Ray J?
19:24Chad Johnson:It made that, it made that knock on his head. It did knock my dog, it did knock Ray J out, man. And then he gonna talk about the fight was fixed. Yeah. That right hand fixed it right on up for you. Right. Some of them dudes have no business having their ass in no damn ring.
19:42Shannon Sharpe:All NBA teams were announced. Shea and Jokic were unanimous MVPs. They got 100 votes. Wimby got 99. I don't know who in the hell left Wimby off their ballot, but hey.
19:56Chad Johnson:Wow.
19:57Shannon Sharpe:Luka and Cade Cunningham round out the first team all NBA selections. The second team was Jalen Brown, Kawhi Leonard, Donovan Mitchell, Kevin Durant, Jalen Brunson. The third team was Tyrese Maxey, Jamal Murray, Jalen Johnson, Jalen Durin, and Chet Holmgren. Hey, Jalen. Your boy made first team, huh? Your boy Jalen Durin, your favorite player. No, he made third team, but he was an all-NBA selection. That's going to be on his resume. And you see the way that man played?
20:32Chad Johnson:Well, this is from the regular season, though.
20:38Shannon Sharpe:After Jalen Dern made the third team All-NBA selection, he's now eligible for the Supermax, which is$287.1 million extension. He averaged 10 points in the postseason. As a restricted friend this offseason, the max he could receive from another team is four years,$177 million. so he can get an extra year and an extra 110 million from Detroit.
21:06Chad Johnson:Damn. He's probably going to stay in Detroit, is what you're saying. Yes. It is. I think the only issue for him is, you think he averaged, what, 20 in the regular season? Something like that? 19 and 10. So 19 and 10. So obviously what he needs to work on is being able to do that in the postseason. I'm not sure if it's the pressure, if it's a little different. to have that green light to be as free to shoot at will as opposed to the regular season. That's all it is. Being able to transition and doing what you do in the regular season and just do it in the postseason. And give K a little help. Give K a little help so he ain't got to be – he don't have to show the load every guy there.
21:44Chad Johnson:The problem you had, Uncle Ocho, he's really not an offensive guy. You know, he is a blue-collar, hard-working brother. Getting 19, Joe? Yeah, hell yeah. Yes, yes. Like, he ain't no guy for real that you just throw the ball to him. Go get us a bucket or a foul. He done a hell of a job in the regular season, averaging 19 and 10, and being an all-star. And obviously, you know, getting to a point to where he's able, you know, to make a bunch of money this summer. I guess, you know.
22:21Shannon Sharpe:Five for$287.
22:21Chad Johnson:Detroit can't let it.
22:23Shannon Sharpe:Five for$287. That's what he's in line to get.
22:27Chad Johnson:Detroit can't let him go, though, Uncle Ocho. They got to pay him. Hey, hold on, Joe. When it comes to situations like this, where he's eligible for five years,$287, right? What if they don't want to pay him? What if they want to use that money and allot it elsewhere? What you mean if you don't want to pay him? Hell, you got to pay him. What you mean? He going to want a max contract. So no matter what. Yeah, he's going to want to. He's third team all NBA. They may not want Max Harmon.
22:53Shannon Sharpe:One of the NBA teams, you get a defensive player of the year. You win an MVP. Right. That's what you get. And Chet doesn't have that escalator his contract, Joe.
23:06Chad Johnson:He don't? But he just signed the deal, though. He just signed the deal.
23:10Shannon Sharpe:But if he had the escalator in there, he'd have got an additional probably 40, 50 million. Ooh.
23:17Chad Johnson:Yeah. I mean, he's young enough. He's going to be up for another deal. I think JB probably pissed off that he made second team here.
23:24Shannon Sharpe:Oh, for sure. But I think the NBA is going to run into it. They opened Pandora's box. Because when they gave these waivers to Cade and they gave these waivers to Luka, you know what's coming, Joe. You know what's coming. Guys are going to say, I had extenuating circumstances. That's why I missed. hold on wait wait but you have to be an extenuating player to be able to get my point if i'm an extenuating player i can say i had an extenuating circumstances that's right right that they've opened with pandora's box in this situation go ahead this is the thing this situation too uncle you think about though it's only so many players like that it's only so many players are going to have that advantage to be able to say this but ocho only so many it's only a handful of that out of a lot of players.
24:17Shannon Sharpe:Here's the thing. If I'm in line, okay, why did you make this a rule for Ant-Man? Ant-Man want to play more than anybody. Yeah. Yes. See, that's the, you have to be careful with a certain rules and how they are applicable because I'm telling you, I'm telling you what's going to happen. You already know what's going to happen. I don't need to bring it up, but guess what? You're going to see a situation because there's too much money involved, don't you? You see the difference? Now I'm an All-NBA selection. I'll add$100 million to my contract, Ocho. It's only going up. I did an interview with Mark Cuban and he said, he's like, Shannon, he's saying the next five to seven years, somebody's going to make $100 million a year.
25:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that's going to be us. $100 million a year. And he's right. That's going to be us, Joe. And when you're dealing with that kind of money, Hey. Bereavement. My girl got pregnant. We had complications. You just opened up Pandora's box. That's all you did. I'm trying to figure out who the F voted Wimby second team. I want to know who put Wimby. I get it. Jokic should be unanimous. I thought there were three guys that should have been unanimous. Wimby, Jokic, and Shea. Who put Shea on the second team? You mean who put what? Shea. I'm not Shea. Wimby. Wimby got 99. So you get 100 votes. That means you're unanimous.
25:56Shannon Sharpe:Wimby got 99 votes.
25:58Chad Johnson:Yeah, I wonder who done that too. Yeah, he going to be a – from here on out here, he going to be first team.
26:08Shannon Sharpe:Jalen Brown said on Twitch tonight, I'm grateful. God is the greatest. I'm not the most liked. Sometimes I use my platform a little controversially. I'm surprised I win awards at all sometimes. Hey,
26:26Chad Johnson:JB, like, damn this. You know what it is? JB feel like, you know, he has so much control into, you know, his own self and what he got going, meaning his shoe endorsements and things of that sort. He's the only one capitalizing off of that. So understanding that he's not a Nike guy, Adidas guy, none of that, that a lot of these fights he's going to have to fight. He's going to have to fight them on his damn own.
26:50Shannon Sharpe:But you got to understand that. Muhammad Ali understood when he took the stance that he took, he understood what came along with it. Yeah. When John Smith and Tommy Smith and Carlos, when they did what they did in 1968, they understood. Yeah. So you can't be, if you're willing to take that stance, and I commend it because he's a brilliant brother. He understands. He's very socially conscious. But here's the thing that you got to understand. No matter what you stand up for, Ocho and Joe, somebody is directly opposed to it.
27:34Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm.
27:38Shannon Sharpe:you want to save the whale you want to save a dog you want to save a hyena somebody's gonna say well what about the ninja save him yeah yeah i just i'm just i'm just being 1000 if you understand how history works go back and study even the greatest our greatest philosophers our greatest leaders somebody was opposed to something they did or something they said so jb just needs to understand that he's a phenomenal player he's very socially conscious and i understand that he really sincerely wants to make the world he wants to make america a better place but somebody someone really likes the status quo wait this is a soda yeah And it has protein?
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32:49Shannon Sharpe:And they don't want you to upset it.
32:53Chad Johnson:Hmm. Oh, sir.
33:02Damn. Hey, Joe.
33:05Chad Johnson:What was that? I just did. I just did 60 push-ups real quick, bro. What you got going, man? You all right? I'm just saying, you see how big I am? Hey, when he thing get a hold of you, boy, and I play through contact, and you, uh, and I get that shot off, hey, Joe, I'm going to get to my midi by, hey, by any means necessary. You hear me? What'd that mean? Joe, you too damn low. Joe, I'm 205 right now, Joe. You too damn little. Joe, I'm too old. We weigh about the same weight, Joe. We weigh no damn same, man. I weigh 250 pounds. You, hey, what the fuck? Excuse me. What that supposed to mean to me?
33:44Huh? What that supposed to mean to me, Joe? I dealt with people 300, 250, 205. Joe, everybody got the same work every Sunday, Joe.
33:53Chad Johnson:You gonna get your bell rang, homeboy, over here. I'm just letting you know. I'm just telling you, hey, hey, hey, you know, I'm cool, I'm laid back, chill, but I'm telling you when I sit my ass up, Ochoa, you in trouble. Hey, all that cool demeanor don't mean nothing to me. All right, okay. Hey, Joe, even if you hostile, that don't mean nothing to me. Okay. Regardless of how you come, you're going to get the same work. Okay. You're going to be the same result. But guys, let me ask you a question.
34:19Shannon Sharpe:I don't think JB is as disliked as he thinks because you know people got to vote for you to win finals MVP. people have to vote for you to win Larry Bird Award people have to vote see it wasn't like this until 1980 players voted so it didn't matter what the media thought of you so in order for you to even get second team somebody that you thought maybe didn't like you voted for you and guess what to win the finals MVP somebody had to vote for you to win the Larry Bird Award. Somebody had to vote for you. Now, I know it was, you know, he felt that he was, he should have been on the Olympic team.
35:06Shannon Sharpe:But when you think about it, if you're taking LeBron, KD, you take three forwards, Bam, Bam could also play, he could play the power forward and he could play LeBron. But they need a guy, when you put together an Olympic team, Joe, you know you got your guys, but you got to have some guys that all they do is play defense. Devin Booker, all he did was play defense. Derrick White, all he did was play defense. Holiday, all he played defense. Ant was playing defense. He got a few shots here and there. I understand what you are in the NBA. You're a phenomenal player. But in that situation, that's not what they need.
35:47Shannon Sharpe:You need role players.
35:50Chad Johnson:Yeah. Well, I think when you play on the USA team, you got to sacrifice any damn way. You got to know and understand it may be nights, it may be games you get four shots, it may be games you may get 14 damn shots. But I don't know, I have to kind of disagree with you on this one because I think JB is a better defensive player than all those guys you just talked about. When you talk about, I think in the Olympics he could pick up full court, he can play off Bruin, he can play off KD because he can make a shot wide open. He can catch a shoot. You know what I mean? I think he would have brought a great element for Team USA because you look at his build, how strong he is, how he took Luka out of the finals that year by picking him up full court and wearing him down.
36:35Chad Johnson:I think he would have played great in that. And I think he'll probably never come out and see it, but I think he'll never forget the NBA for leaving him off that team. Oh, no, no, no. Because how in the hell you take three of my damn teammates and I ain't one of them. It just don't make sense, bro. All them Nike guys, and he got his own shoe. They not, hey, hey, when we talk about business and everything is about money, they ain't finna let him come over there and make his shoe global. Nah, nah, nah. Just keep it at 100. You guys jokes, keep it at 100. You're right, I'll with you when you're right.
37:08Chad Johnson:They not doing that. Like, you ain't a Nike athlete, hell yeah, you gon' get left
37:13Shannon Sharpe:up off this thing. Because you remember in 92, when Reebok was the official outfitter of the Olympics, what those guys, those Nike guys do? They put tape over that Reebok sign. George said, no, absolutely not. You'll get no pub off me. Right. You absolutely will not.
37:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, he did the whole ceremony with something over his - Oh, he had a towel. He had a towel over there. Yeah, a towel.
37:33Shannon Sharpe:Those guys had towels over the Reebok logo.
37:37Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, man, everything is about money, fellas. Absolutely. Money, endorsement, so we can look at it however we want to look at it. but they all got a plan now. It's a plan.
37:50Shannon Sharpe:Maybe it's corporations that feel a certain type of way and feel that he's bad for business, but I'm talking about the people that actually vote because, look, Grant Hill and whoever else put this team together, Grant Hill, T. Lou, Spoh, Steve Kerr, like I said, being able to do it and say, okay, who do we believe that – because a lot of times, Ocho, Joe, you know, I'll tell you one thing until I get there. Then I'm going to do something totally different. Devin Booker said, take me. I ain't got to take a shot.
38:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we know what Booker is. Booker is an all-star, all-NBA selection. Like, hey, I ain't got to take a shot. I'll play what y 'all do. Whatever y 'all need me to do, I'll do. But look, Devin is a phenomenal player. I mean, you don't win finals MVP. You don't win the Labrador award. He's a, this is not his first. How many times all NBA selections have you been? I think he made it last year. So he's been a two or three time all NBA selection.
38:58Chad Johnson:Yeah.
38:59Shannon Sharpe:He's phenomenal. He's phenomenal. And I, no, I'm not saying that he shouldn't have been on there. He should have. Yeah. He should have.
39:10Chad Johnson:I ain't going to lie. Because if that was me, I'd have been pissed off too.
39:14Shannon Sharpe:He made it last year, didn't he? This is his first one?
39:21Chad Johnson:This is his first All-NBA selection.
39:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah. Okay. So he's a two-time All-NBA selection. Looks good on his resume. He's a finals MVP because when they come to vote for the Hall of Fame, they're going to look at that. How many All-Star games did you make? How many All-NBA selections did you make? Were you a league MVP? Were you a finals MVP? Were you an Eastern or Western Conference MVP? Definitely would have helped him have a gold medal. He's a one-time or two-time or three-time or four-time gold medal winner. I mean, but first of all, I mean, some guys, you ain't even looking at, hey, LeBron, KD, Steph Curry, what are we talking about?
40:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I mean, really, what are we talking about? but it's the some of the other guys that you know you're going to have to have a serious discussion but they do Joe they're taking college into account they're taking a lot of other things into account but you know certain guys even with no gold medals Steph Curry the first ballot LeBron James 100 % Kevin Durant 100 % even with no and KD probably going to get an opportunity to go for five gold medals in 28 but based on what he's done in the NBA what are we talking about
40:39Chad Johnson:Absolutely
40:42Shannon Sharpe:Tom Crean said this is just an absolute joke Anthony Edwards did not get the waiver to be eligible for the NBA honors this year Anthony epitomizing wanting to play doing whatever it takes to play he doesn't take personal days he shows up he brings it he missed him for injuries he didn't miss for convenience
41:05I agree
41:09Chad Johnson:Hold on. Oh, how many games did he have? How many did he miss? How many was he away from?
41:16Shannon Sharpe:20, didn't he? He played in 61 games, so he missed 21. Damn.
41:27Chad Johnson:Yeah, that hurt, bro.
41:28Shannon Sharpe:Go on and get that fain next to your ant, man, and get on back there, and so you'll be eligible for that contract. gonna get that 345, 350, 300, 400.
41:43Chad Johnson:Shit, on top of what he getting from Adidas already. Exactly. Azzy Fudd, third quarter surge.
41:54Shannon Sharpe:Is it AZ or Azzy? AZ Fudd. Paige Beckers but Fudd had 17 of a 24 in the third quarter Buckets, Paige Beckers had 24 and Dallas Mavericks made 7 three-pointers in the quarter to go up 71-61 leading into 5 to 10 minutes. Rike had 19. That three-guard lineup was crazy. The problem that you're going to have Joe is that they don't really have any rebounding or interior your defense. But if they knocking down shots, because ain't nobody who stay in front of them. Hey, we already know Reek is a big shot taker, big shot maker. Two-time all-star game MVP. We remember her hitting the big shots in the NCAA tournament with you that are Notre Dame.
42:44Shannon Sharpe:She's a big shot taker, big shot maker. We know what Paige Beckers is. Now, if Fudd who coming off the bench and the coach left her in, he started in the second half, if they're going to play like this, they can be an issue. The problem he's going to have is rebounding. Stewie didn't have the best game. I thought Jonquil Jones is playing well considering she missed a substantial amount of time last year. Inescu is just getting back. But, boy, they look good.
43:11Chad Johnson:Man, I went and watched the Dallas team play against the Dream the other day. And the Dream took them out of the game, Uncle Ocho. Meaning, they guards was non-effective. Like you say, with Angel Reese down there, battling, rebounding the way she does, the Dallas wings, they didn't, they couldn't do nothing, man. They got ran up out the building. So for them to turn around and have a performance like this, I mean, this is kind of what everybody has seen. Maybe you start to start these three guards who can take pressure off one another.
43:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.
43:48Chad Johnson:Because they all can get buckets. For sure.
43:52Shannon Sharpe:But, man, Rick can handle that rock. Man, I watched her in the All-Star game a couple years ago in Phoenix. She got to it. She got right to it. Hey, she can play.
44:05Chad Johnson:I played in a... When the All-Star game was in Utah some odd years back, probably about three, four years ago, we played in this celebrity little game together. It was like two-on-two. So I played against her. And she can really play, bro. She can really, really play. Yeah, she can play with the dudes, is what I'm saying. She for real.
44:28Shannon Sharpe:She can get to it. Hey, Joe, I think people will understand, especially when you say that, they always have pushback and say, oh, she can't play with no dudes. The fact that she can create space, the fact that she can create space, let alone just based off skill set alone, means she can play with the men. I beat them. I said play with. Yeah, and I think there's a lot of – well, I ain't going to say a lot,
44:54Chad Johnson:but there's a few girls who are capable of playing pick-up ball with guys, and she is one of them. Like, when I tell you how she held her own in this two-on-two – it was a two-on-two tournament. It was probably about eight to ten teams. Like, she would get money out there. Yeah.
45:08Shannon Sharpe:You ain't going to tell me. I've seen it up close and personal. I'm good. I'm convinced. I'm convinced. But just watching them play today, I mean, I mean, the way Fudd was coming off that pick and knocking down that three, and then Page got going in the fourth quarter, Reek is going to be Reek. The problem is that the Liberty got in foul trouble, and so every time they're fired, they go into the free throw line and they was knocking – Page was knocking them down, Reek was knocking them down, and that really, you know.
45:36Chad Johnson:Yeah, they opened it up on them, girl.
45:40Shannon Sharpe:But if you tell me they're going to do that, Odyssey Sims on the team too.
45:48Chad Johnson:She, yeah, you ain't see?
45:49Shannon Sharpe:But I didn't see. She only played a little bit. But she's another that lefty. She can get the bucket. She can get at it too now. You know, she was at Baylor. She can get at it. But, you know, and the Liberty got a big team. You know, they go Stewie. They go Satu, Sabali, Jonquil Jones. But Inescu is going to take a little while to get a rhythm back. John Quayle's going to take a little ride to get up because he missed basically all of last year. Satu came over. But look, when it's all said and done, you know, I think Minnesota will be there. I think the Liberty will be there. Obviously, the Aces will be there.
46:32Shannon Sharpe:I like Atlanta. Atlanta's going to be, you know, Ryan Howard is money. Gray, Angel Reese. Angel Reese is a double-double machine. so
46:43Chad Johnson:the WNBA is in good hands man I like how the women's game is growing
46:49Shannon Sharpe:the Atlanta Dream used the late surge to beat the Phoenix Mercury 82-80 the Dream used the 9-0 run in the span of 85 seconds to tie the game at 73 with just over a minute remaining Ryan Howard had 21 points Alicia Gray had 17 and Angel Reese recorded her third double-double of the season 17 points and 10 rebounds Jordan Canada had 11 points and 14 rebounds for her first double-double of the season. Hey.
47:16Chad Johnson:Hey, Angel Reese out there getting them FGAs up there. Look.
47:24Shannon Sharpe:She's going to rebound the ball. Doesn't have the most aesthetically pleasing shot. It seems like it has a hitch. But, boy.
47:31Chad Johnson:Yeah.
47:32Shannon Sharpe:On the glass? She's robbing on the glass.
47:36Chad Johnson:Hold on. Hey, but just watching Ryan Howard the other night, the way she moved, the way she played, the way she can score the ball, the Dream got a really nice team. I like Gray, too. They got a very, very good team, bro, that can really make some noise in the WNBA. They exciting to watch. They exciting to watch. Hey, man, don't y 'all know how? Man, listen, the tickets, they probably sold out. They probably sell out every game now. Wow, yeah.
48:04Shannon Sharpe:And they got some nice shoes. You know, they got Pow Pow from Carolina. They got Okot. You know, Ryan Howard was the number one overall pick from Kentucky. You're right, Joe. They got a nice squad. I'm surprised that considering how well they played the first game, the Mercury, they blew out the Aces. They haven't won a game since, Joe.
48:26Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, you know, the Dream played at the State Farm Arena a couple times. Sometimes, you know, they outgrew this facility that they got out there by the airport. That's where they play at. I forgot the name of the arena, but it's a small arena. I had a chance to talk to the owner and then the general manager when I went to the game the other day. He was like, it's so chaotic going to the games. He was like, we've outgrown this facility. So they trying to figure out what's next.
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