Nightcap Hour 2: Bills BEAT Texans in SHOOTOUT + Deshaun Watson STINKS UP Game 1 + Carson Wentz LEADS Vikings to COMEBACK + Bengals HANDLE Buccaneers

14 Sep 2026 · 45 min · 22 chapters

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In short

NFL Week 1 recap and debates—Deshaun Watson’s struggles, Trevor Lawrence’s Jaguars win, Carson Wentz’s Vikings comeback, and Bengals’ late-game hold vs. Buccaneers.

Guests

Chad Ochocinco (former Bengals WR; “Ocho”); Joe (sports analyst/host); “Uncle Joe” and “Chad” are the main voices; no other guest identities named.

Key claims

  • Browns’ Deshaun Watson looked bad: interception on first drive, 31-0 deficit, 11 penalties, sacked 5 times; Todd Monken won’t commit to Watson long-term.
  • Jaguars picked up where they left off; Lawrence looked like a “young John Elway.”
  • Vikings’ Kyler Murray injury creates a quarterback controversy; Wentz immediately sparked offense (29 straight points).
  • Bengals’ defense forced turnovers; offense needs to involve Ja’Marr Chase more.

Notable examples

  • Jaguars 34-10 over Browns; Watson 16/22, 205 yards, 1 TD/1 INT.
  • Vikings stunned Packers 39-22; Wentz 12/19, 133 yards, 3 TDs.
  • Bengals beat Buccaneers 33-27; Burrow 25/35, 254 yards, 1 INT; Bengals led 21-3.

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Chapters

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Jaguars vs. Browns Recap

1:45 to 2:20

Discussion on the Jaguars' victory over the Browns, highlighting Deshaun Watson's performance.

“Your away game road trip doesn't start at the kickoff.”

Critique of Deshaun Watson

2:20 to 4:28

Criticism of Deshaun Watson's performance and the implications for the Browns' future.

“If you thought anything different, surprised they're not.”

Cleveland's Long-Suffering Fans

4:28 to 6:45

Discussion on the struggles of Cleveland fans and the team's history of disappointment.

“if the Jacksonville Jaguars are playing the Browns and Dak is playing the New York Giants which is a division opponent which will always be a tough game I'm going with Trevor Lawrence as my quarterback back.”

Coaching Decisions and Pressure

6:45 to 7:56

Analysis of coaching decisions regarding quarterback performance and evaluation.

“Here's Todd Munkin on whether he'll stick with Deshaun Watson as the starting quarterback in week two.”

Quarterback Challenges in the NFL

7:56 to 13:00

Discussion on the challenges quarterbacks face and the performance of various teams.

“No, it's not because they're the one that told him to start, Deshaun.”

Kyler Murray's Injury Update

13:00 to 15:01

Update on Kyler Murray's injury and its implications for the team.

“Because everybody else seemed to be able to find a quarterback.”

Kyler Murray's Franchise Viability

17:26 to 18:55

Debate on Kyler Murray's ability to be a franchise quarterback due to health issues.

“Because when he got out there, there's a better than 50 % chance that he wasn't conscious when you got out there.”

Carson Wentz's Impact

18:55 to 20:34

Discussion on Carson Wentz's performance and potential quarterback controversy.

“is he'll have a week like this, and then he'll disappear to follow.”

Performance Analysis of the Packers

20:34 to 21:51

Analyzing the Packers' performance and the quarterback situation.

“that Kyler can stay healthy at that size.”

Expectations for Quarterbacks

21:51 to 23:48

Exploring how expectations change for quarterbacks after a good performance.

“Yeah, you felt you should have won this game, bro.”
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Historical Comparisons in QB Roles

23:48 to 25:55

Comparing current quarterbacks' situations to historical examples.

“The question is, we talk about being healthy.”

Wrap-Up and Reflections

25:55 to 28:00

Final thoughts on quarterback performances and team dynamics.

“I like Tori's story, but I can tell you what it's going to be about.”

Carson Wentz's Performance

28:00 to 29:20

Discussing the expectations and performance of Carson Wentz in his return to the field.

“and then walk into him, stand back in the pocket and was picking you apart.”

Injury Impact and Opportunities

29:20 to 31:00

Analyzing the implications of player injuries and how they create opportunities for others.

“But, you know, him getting an opportunity to play with this offense, okay, Ojo, shh.”

Quarterback Competition Insights

31:00 to 34:20

Exploring the dynamics of quarterback competitions and player evaluations.

“And what did that put him out for five, six weeks now?”

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34:20 to 35:00

Promotional segment for On Plus Nicotine Pouches.

“Josh Johnson Josh Johnson has been on 12 teams.”

Bengals vs. Buccaneers Recap

35:00 to 42:00

Recapping the Bengals' victory over the Buccaneers and key player performances.

“They said how many he was going to miss.”

Involving the Number One Receiver

42:00 to 44:24

Discussion on the importance of involving key players in the game plan.

“there's no reason he should have two catches for 12 yards.”

Baker Mayfield's Struggles

44:24 to 45:14

Analysis of Baker Mayfield's performance and technical difficulties during the game.

“Baker Mayfield was 23 of 28, 216, zero touchdowns.”

Deshaun Watson's Pressure

45:14 to 47:20

Exploration of the pressures faced by Deshaun Watson in his current situation.

“they work perfectly fine, then you get out in between the hashes, then it's not working.”

Excuses and Accountability

47:20 to 49:58

Discussion on the tendency of players to make excuses rather than taking responsibility for performance.

“I didn't have any pressure outside of the pressure of just being a quarterback and having to do what I do.”

Excuses and Accountability

52:06 to 53:54

Discussion on the tendency of players to make excuses rather than taking responsibility for performance.

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2:16Chad Johnson:The Jags defeat the Browns 34-10, the Browns. The Browns are who we thought they are. If you thought anything different, surprised they're not. Deshaun Watson threw an interception on his first drive and failed to lead the Browns offense to the point until the middle of the third quarter when the score was 31-0. 16-22, 205, one touchdown, one interception. He was sacked five times, and the Browns committed 11 penalties.

2:45Joe Johnson:It's tough, Unc. It's tough. It's tough. I said it, Chad. I said it before the season even started. I knew they were going to name Deshaun Watson the starter. And at least for him, being the starter was going to be short. It was going to be short before they had to play that first game at home. I said, when they start the season, you got to be one and one before you're going into week three. So it's imperative that they win this next game. They're playing Tampa, if I'm not mistaken. They got to win that game at Tampa. They got to win Tampa. Tampa or they making a change in quarterback position why three why what why are you making a change two weeks into the season Joe if if if Deshaun Watson was not your future why would you

3:33Chad Johnson:even start it if Deshaun Watson wasn't your future why was he even on the roster you know why you

3:41Joe Johnson:know why we're gonna get a 46 million dollar man a chance to do what to see if he's that

3:47Chad Johnson:What are you going to do, Joe? Come on, man. We know what's going on. Stop playing.

3:53Joe Johnson:I know what's going on. I told you what the play was before the play even happened.

4:00Chad Johnson:Jacksonville looked like a team that picked up where they left off last year. I got Trevor Lawrence on my damn fantasy team. Boy, when I'm talking, you're talking about somebody showing up and showing out. that means in order to play Trevor Lawrence you gotta bench Dak Prescott are you willing to do that? yeah but that's a story for another day when you got quarterback you gotta make tough decisions

4:25Joe Johnson:I get that listen it's not a tough decision that's more common sense and knowledge of the game if the Jacksonville Jaguars are playing the Browns and Dak is playing the New York Giants which is a division opponent which will always be a tough game I'm going with Trevor Lawrence as my quarterback back. Everything, it don't always work out like that though, Ocho. Joe, it worked out exactly how it worked out. Just how I said, Joe. Hey, let me help you with your face. I don't need no help, bro. I'm good.

4:52Chad Johnson:I'm good. But, yeah. But I don't get this. And I know, Ocho, you're probably right. They're probably going to make it. If they lose the tab, they're probably going to make a change. But I don't get it. I don't know why you're making a change. I don't know why. Future. If your future is not, if Deshaun Watson is not in your future. Why is he playing?

5:16Joe Johnson:We're paying him$46 million. Unless he wins the Super Bowl, you can't

5:20Chad Johnson:get it back. The only way Deshaun Watson can fulfill this contract is to get Cleveland to the Super Bowl and they win it. That is the only way he can fulfill that. Do you think that's possible, Ocho? With Deshaun Watson playing quarterback and the weapons that he have offensively, do you think they're good enough to get to and win the Super Bowl? No.

5:41Joe Johnson:okay no but hey the football guys may have to be on their side every game hey but hey look look

5:47Chad Johnson:but but the fans gonna have something to say about all this okay ocho they gonna have something to say they're gonna have something to say i believe it i believe it but i just don't it's just gonna it's just gonna it's look Cleveland's just bad. And I just feel bad for the fans because they show up every week knowing that there's a limited chance that they're going to win a football game. They show up every week knowing that there's really no realistic chance that they're going to make the playoffs. And they show up and they sell that stadium out and they tailgate and they've been loyal for 50 damn years.

6:27Yeah.

6:28Chad Johnson:And they got close in the 80s where Bernie Kosar and then they had the Biner fumble and they had the fumble and stuff and all that kind of stuff. But the last, the last, since 1990, they ain't really had no realistic chance. No. None. None. Here's Todd Munkin on whether he'll stick with Deshaun Watson as the starting quarterback in week two. Why'd you say something, PC? I'd rather just talk about today because I haven't had time to even look at the tape. I mean, I have. I'm sure as hell not firing me. I'm not firing our staff. I'm not giving it all of our players. So he happens to be one of 53.

7:07And however many practice squad guys we got and our staff, he's one of that. So we'll evaluate everything. But to just say that emotionally here at the end when we're, I mean, we just didn't play good enough and didn't coach well enough.

7:24Joe Johnson:It sounds good. I know you got 53, you have your practice squad players. But when it comes to evaluating, giving you your best chance to win, you always evaluate the person who's going to have the ball in their hands the most. And that's always the person at the quarterback position. He gives you your best chance to win. If the person who has the ball and controls the ball the most doesn't give you your best chance to win, you have no choice but to make a change. Because if you don't make a change, therefore, your neck is on the line. Your job is on the line. And his leash is probably short, too.

7:56Chad Johnson:No, it's not because they're the one that told him to start, Deshaun.

8:01Joe Johnson:and didn't they tell Mr what's his name from no from the math oh Nico Harrison didn't they tell him to trade Luka and what they did to him no Nico Harris it's Harris right not Harrison they told him to go through and gave him the green light to make the trade Luka they turned around and did what to him fired him come on Yeah. Come on now. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.

8:34Chad Johnson:It's Harrison. Nico Harrison. Yeah, they fired him. Yes. I think Ty Monken knows that he's going to have to, you know, make a change at some point, Uncle Ocho. That's why he's never going to give a definite answer as far as who's going to start the following week. Because he knows at some point they're going to have to cut ties, bro.

8:54Joe Johnson:He know that. Yeah. I told you what them ties are going to come. don't let them win this game this upcoming week again Tampa Bay and watch what happened week three for their first home game in Cleveland

9:04Chad Johnson:what you saying

9:08Joe Johnson:oh okay oh wait this hand

9:15Chad Johnson:if if you're Cleveland how do you win a ball game when you commit 11 penalties and turn the ball over twice I just want to know how you win a ball game no On the road, too. Cleveland, they got to be damn near perfect, guys. Like you said, Joe, on the road, you got to – first of all, even at home, they're going to have to be damn near perfect. Or the other team is going to have to be more imperfect than they are. But on the road, your first couple throws, you throw a pick, come on, man. Y 'all know what momentum does, bro. Especially being – the home team, they feed off of that. You get them going, ain't no slowing them down.

9:53Chad Johnson:Yeah, look at Trevor Lawrence out there looking like a young John Elway the way he was out there throwing that thing, huh? I'm talking about, I said, some of the throws that that boy was throwing today, and he wasn't playing, man. That boy looked good out there today. Joe, if you'd have started Trevor Lawrence, you'd have won. Yeah.

10:10Joe Johnson:Hey, you know what, too, um? Listen, I'm not a quarterback. I'm talking about that, bro. I'm not a quarterback, bro. Hey, Uncle Joe, I'm not a quarterback, bro. But I do know as a quarterback, right, when you're taking your drop, whether you under center or whether in the gun you can't stare down your receiver i know you can't do that because middle linebacker is following your ass so wherever your eyes at all he doing is going right where he has that that interception was it was easy for the backer man when you take that drop man look straight down the middle of the field you use your peripheral you know where the man gonna be at and at the last then you look and you make that joke you sound surprised

10:50Chad Johnson:I mean come on man what you are you are say come on man what y 'all talking about y 'all sound surprised that they're having this is what we've been looking at through training camp this is what we've been looking at doing the preseason come on man oh we're supposed to change because the popcorn were popping today no sirree bob I mean but he he's been playing I hope you've been playing a lot of football now not lately hey you hold it that's quarterback 101 you learned at the

11:17Joe Johnson:beginning when you take a drop down the field ask down the field to be able to hold everybody defensively where they are because wherever you look all the defense does is shame whoever doesn't

11:29Chad Johnson:have a threat they'd shade wherever your eyes go but if i ain't played meaningful football and i don't know how many you know how many years am i first to get out there i'm gonna make a few mistakes that's that's that's not routine huh what we talking about

11:45Joe Johnson:All right. Well, you know, a mistake, mistakes, mistake cost you your job, Joe. Huh? He don't have that much of a leash to be able to make, to make the mistakes right now. And I say, I said the pressure was going to be on that because now he's going to press. He's going to press.

12:01Chad Johnson:That's a tough situation to be in. And look what happens. That's a tough situation to be in, Ocho. To have to, to have to really, really put up, you know, on the road against tough teams, like, man it's good look you gotta understand tap and bait just coming off a loss so they finna come they home opener come on man they're full gonna be they gonna get it you know they gonna get cleveland everything they looking for damn so does he get does he gets what does todd monkey give him

12:28Joe Johnson:one more week yes for sure guarantee guarantee over two out of the hole we gonna make sure the seen them get away from us.

12:40Chad Johnson:Don't get away from you. It might be gone already. It don't matter who back that quarterback, huh? It don't. You just got to play these 17 games. It is. It is what it is. Some people just got bad juju. That's what it seemed like for real. That's really what it seemed like. Because everybody else seemed to be able to find a quarterback. New Orleans look like they found their quarterback with Tyler Shook. Seems like everybody can find a quarterback. They settle on that guy. The Giants seem like they got that guy with Jackson Dart.

13:21Chad Johnson:Shadour comes in, plays okay. The last half, he comes back like, oh yeah, I just need to build on the momentum that I got last year. Back to the bench you go, son.

13:39Chad Johnson:we'll see the Vikings stunned the Packers 39-22 the question was always about Kyler Murray and staying healthy the answer is Ocho now you want to listen to me what did I tell you what staying healthy Kyler Murray got I was with you when you was right

13:59Joe Johnson:I'm with you when you're right

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13:59Chad Johnson:out of the game 3 or 5 18 yards a touchdown Kevin O 'Connell on Kyler Murray's injury

14:16Joe Johnson:yeah when i got out there um you know i don't don't necessarily want to comment on you know but by the time i got out there he was you know he was uh you know he was you know totally you know conscious and talking and and they were just going through the normal evaluations and And, you know, at this point in time, I don't have a lot to update other than I did just see him. And he seemed to be doing pretty well. But once again, I wouldn't medically quote me on that. We'll see. You know, I'll keep you guys posted as I get more information.

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17:25Chad Johnson:Comment about what you saw. Because when he got out there, there's a better than 50 % chance that he wasn't conscious when you got out there. Or barely conscious.

17:40Chad Johnson:He's just, he's a very small man. It's hard to be a franchise anything if you can't stay healthy. Yeah. Yeah. That's his problem. We're not talking about set ability aside. We know he has the ability. But Ocho, I can't. How do you be franchised and you can't stay on the field? Yeah.

18:06Joe Johnson:You got to slide early.

18:08Chad Johnson:Yeah, he went to the very last minute. Bro, you know you ain't but a buck 95.

18:13Joe Johnson:Yeah, you got a slide early.

18:14Chad Johnson:Yeah.

18:18Joe Johnson:That's tough. So how long you think he out, huh?

18:22Chad Johnson:We got a quarterback controversy. Hello. Hello. Did you not see walking to him, come in there and did what he did? Yes, sir. You got a quarterback controversy. Yeah. Wait, you say who came in here? Carson wins.

18:33Joe Johnson:Carson wins. Yeah, yeah. Listen, we know what he can do. We've seen him do it before. It's about him doing, can he do it consistently? Can he do it consistently week in and week out? I mean, he came in and ain't miss a beat. Yes.

18:46Chad Johnson:Bocho. 12 of 19, 133 yards, three touchdowns.

18:51Joe Johnson:Yeah, but the only problem for Wentz, his problem, his issue has been, is he'll have a week like this, and then he'll disappear to follow. And he has a big heart, probably staying healthy himself. Yeah, he's another one. I think this is a good thing. This is a good thing about Wentz being a quarterback, is it makes your job so much easier when you're supporting cats around you, make you look better.

19:13Chad Johnson:Yes.

19:15Joe Johnson:We have Hockerson, we have Addison, we have, hell, I mean, one A, one B, one of the best receivers in the NFL. It makes your job really easy. All you got to do is facilitate without turning the ball.

19:26Chad Johnson:Man, Green Bay had this game, I'll go with y 'all. Yes. Excuse me, you up 22 to 10. You're supposed to, hey. And the other team lose their starting quarterback. Come on, bro. You know, Carson Wentz came in, Jefferson got going. It was a wrap. You get Jefferson out there doing they gritty, huh? Carson Wentz got him going. So I'm like, oh, yeah, we do got a QB controversial. Yeah. You got a quarterback controversial. You talking about how long you're going to be out? He might not. What happened last time he left because of the injury? Tell the people at home what happened when he was in Arizona.

20:05Chad Johnson:He got injured. Yeah. And the guy came in. What happened? Lost his job. He never got it back. Hey, hey, hey, hey, tonight, them folks go 29 straight points, Ocho.

20:16Joe Johnson:Yeah, listen, Joe, I'm with you when you're right. And we talked about it before, he has to stay healthy.

20:23Chad Johnson:You talking about Kyler, or you talking about Kyler, right?

20:26Joe Johnson:I'm talking about Kyler, yeah. Well, hell, hold on, not even that shit. Carson Woods gotta stay healthy too now.

20:33Chad Johnson:Ocho, it's just hard for me to believe that Kyler can stay healthy at that size.

20:40Chad Johnson:I'm just basically it's already I mean I have my doubts I didn't doubt that he could play in this league my doubt was his ability to stay healthy being that small of a man

20:54Joe Johnson:and you know who else is small too but stays healthy fairly most of the time Baker McPhil even though he's a little bit more sturdier

21:02Chad Johnson:and people are talking about Drew Brees wasn't a big you didn't see Drew most of the time when Calumari has gotten hurt what was he doing Ocho? Tell the people at home what he was doing Running Running

21:13Joe Johnson:Every time How many times you see Drew Reeves running?

21:18Chad Johnson:Devil You know why? Because when you run the ball they can treat you like a running back

21:23Joe Johnson:Running back, yeah

21:25Chad Johnson:Quarterbacks ain't built to take If you Josh Allen, you camp

21:31Joe Johnson:That's a different ball game Yeah, you 6 '5", you know

21:33Chad Johnson:You 255, 260. Bro, were you 5 '8", 5 '9"? And you maybe, maybe 200, maybe?

21:44Joe Johnson:He might not even be 200, though.

21:48Chad Johnson:Hey, if you the Vikings, I mean, if you the Packers, though, you sick. You sick by the night, Uncle Ocho. Yes! Yeah, you felt you should have won this game, bro. You had the game in control. Jordan Love was 21 of 42. 3-87. Two touchdowns. He had a pick. Christian Watson, six for a buck, 47, and two touches. Matthew Golden, six for 95. Tucker Craft, just signed a new contract. Congratulations, young fella. Three for 65. John New Smith, two for 50. Yeah.

22:24Chad Johnson:But then you let Jetta, eight for 92, two touches. TJ Hawkinson four for 36 a touch

22:35damn man

22:38Chad Johnson:yeah he was out there cutting he just happened he got somebody that can get him to football there you go he ain't got no favorite obviously all things being equal he's like I did kind of like old first cousin because first cousin kept it fat first cousin

22:57Joe Johnson:kept it fat Ocho Oh, yeah. He's surgical with that ball, man. He's surgical.

23:06Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's just... I just don't know. Everybody keep talking about go back and play baseball. Man, he ain't here to baseball in so long, man. Hey, I got a question. So y 'all think it might be a wrap for Kyler? No, he's going to try to play again. He's going to play again. But I tell you what, what Wins did today created a quarterback controversy.

23:35Joe Johnson:Absolutely. Now, Unc, you might say it created a quarterback controversy, but what will happen when Kyle is healthy and ready to go again, he will go.

23:44Chad Johnson:He's undefeated, Ocho. I don't give a damn. The question is, we talk about being healthy. He was fully healthy. he was fully healthy and he didn't get his job back with Jacoby Brissett

23:57Joe Johnson:yeah hold on you know he was on the way out the door which is why he didn't even say nothing you knew he was on the way out hold on you think the verdict is out on him already after one week

24:13Chad Johnson:are they going to resign him next year he signed a one year deal he didn't sign a multiple year deal

24:19Joe Johnson:listen when you sign a one year deal you know what that one year means right that one you to prove it we're not going to knock everything off the table because he got hurt in week one let's see when he gets back what he do with the remaining

24:30Chad Johnson:how did he get his job back

24:34Joe Johnson:he's going to get it back I'm telling you he's going to get it back you're thinking like us like us if we were in a position to be able to say you know what we're going with wins because of the way he looked today I'm thinking like how they're thinking on the quarterback that they told who's the starter think about this Russell Wilson when he was with Pittsburgh, right? And Justin Fields came in and led them boys to what? They were four and three when Russell Wilson was healthy. Who went back and was also on a one-year deal? Yeah, Russell got the - Same. Yeah, they're going to put him back in there.

25:07Joe Johnson:Now, when he gets back in there, it's going to be his job to lose again.

25:10Chad Johnson:I think it's going to be more difficult for him to get that job back. I'm with you. I'm with you all. I'm not saying that he won't, but I'm saying that it's going to be difficult for him to get a job back. They were dead in the water, Ocho. They were flying around. And walking to him, came in there, and he laid him like Joe said, 29 straight points. Yeah. Yeah. So he looked good. I'm talking about off-dump, first pass. Even if he gets the job back, Ocho, what has his history shown you? How you going to get up? Damn! How many times we've seen this movie? Yeah, I'm right. I'm with you when you're right.

25:57Chad Johnson:I like Tori's story, but I can tell you what it's going to be about. I ain't seen the fifth one, but I know the first two, so I don't need to see three, four, five.

26:13Chad Johnson:Jenna goes eight for 82 and two touchdowns.

26:21Joe Johnson:oh just damn that's what that's one thing but as uh as a receiver too i'm gonna joke you want you want to get off to a fast start like this yeah you got that good 90 you know next week have another good game yeah and just build and just keep on stacking yeah man little

26:40Chad Johnson:Wayne is upset. He really upset about his Packers. He said, my Johnson too big for shortcomings, and this sucks. He said, I can't respect the game when the refs can't ref the game. I'm out on the NFL this year. Wish it was an amazing season for all. Refs in Minnesota, pure hoo-ha. He felt like they got holes. Yeah. He felt the ref put the meat on him oh man oh oh come on man come on man now man hey man we we crazy about that what you call him he crazy about them uh the packers man damn they were looking good early too boy yeah yeah yeah and then when they they knocked i said well hey i said they done got this one yeah jordan and he was throwing that thing around the yard.

27:40Chad Johnson:Damn, boy, they gonna run them boys up out of there. Yeah, hey, hey, hey, Joe, I was like, oh yeah, they got this one, the collar done gone, walk into, but see, the thing is, is that, you know, that first game, when the backup comes in, Ocho Joe, we ain't practice for him, we practicing for a guy that's gonna scramble around, run around, blah, blah, blah, make plays, and then walk into him, stand back in the pocket and was picking you apart. Hey, that's what I was thinking was gonna happen when he came in anyway, Ocho, I ain't gonna lie, I was thinking like, man, watch this dude come in here and ball out.

28:11Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? I ain't going to lie. Now, I ain't know he's going to get 29 straight points. But when he got in, he didn't look like he was nervous or nothing. He went straight to work. I was done. I'm talking about – I said, damn. And then when I seen him got Justin Jefferson going, I said, oh, yeah. The gritty done came out. Oh, yeah, them boys ain't playing. The only thing that concerns me about walking to him is because he did what he did,

28:37Chad Johnson:the EXPCTTLN. Expectations. You know what comes, hey, it's just like a guy, guy goes down on Joe and the guy comes off the bench and he get 25. Yeah. Now they expect him to give me 25 a night. And you can't, hey, hey, hey. Every night. And you can't tell him nothing either. He come off the bench and give you 20, you can't tell him nothing.

29:00Joe Johnson:Hey, what you keep calling, Wentz? What you call a one of what?

29:04Chad Johnson:Walking to him. Because when he was in Philly, he was dealing. Obviously, Skip, a Cowboys fan. I was with Eagles for the Eagles. And I nicknamed him Walking to him because he was throwing them dives like a long handoff. He was walking to him. Boy, and he was finna win MVP one year too. Until he tore his knee up in LA. Yeah. In the Coliseum. Yeah. Yep, he was. Yeah, so hey, look. I bet you wins. He happy he got an opportunity. I mean, I know he probably didn't want to see Kyle go out like that, but when you're a backup like Wentz, who's been in the league for a minute and then had real opportunity to win a Super Bowl, obviously he didn't play a major part in winning the Super Bowl, because Nick Foles, the backup, came in and won it.

29:44Chad Johnson:But, you know, him getting an opportunity to play with this offense, okay, Ojo, shh. Well, I know that boy happy. Boy, that boy got some mean weapons out there. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you do. No, look, I'm not happy, but I, hey, Joe, I got to take my opportunity how it comes. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Hey, if I'm hungry and I'm driving, man, look at that. Somebody just ran over and killed a deer. Let me throw him in the back of the pickup. I take a meal. I can get it, Joe. Yeah. Hey, you get a guy go down. Hey, look, man, it's unfortunate. But guess what? We need somebody else to step up, bro.

30:23Chad Johnson:This your opportunity. This your opportunity to step in. This your opportunity. Now, he probably going to be out for a couple weeks. you step in and do your thing, now you can get in the rotation. And this is how it go, bro. This is how opportunity is coming. When you get hit like what Kyler got hit and you see that arm, go rigid. Well, we know he gonna miss at least a week, Ojo. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Probably bearing on the side of caution multiple weeks. I agree. Because what happened, the last guy we saw go rigid like that. They played him on a Thursday night. He got hit again. And what did that put him out for five, six weeks now?

31:05Chad Johnson:Yeah. Five, six weeks, yeah. So probably more times than not, they're going to err on the side of caution in this situation. And then let's just say for the sake of argument, by the time he comes back, they won four games. They won five games. He ain't getting that job back, Coach.

31:21Joe Johnson:Hell no. Hey, but see, that's the perfect scenario, though. Now let's understand. Let's understand. Let's remember who Carson Wentz is. Let's understand why Carson Wentz has bounced around from team to team. Because he can have games like he had today, where those expectations set in and he doesn't meet them. He doesn't play consistent enough. He plays consistent football in sprints. Listen, I'm hoping he plays well. I'm not sure who the Vikings have next week. I'm hoping he continues to play well. I just know if Kyler is out for a substantial amount of time, you know, three to four weeks or something like that, which I don't think he'll be out that long, and Carson Wentz plays well, then, yes, maybe, you know, Carson Wentz might keep the job.

32:08Joe Johnson:But I just don't see him being out that well. And I don't see him playing consistently enough long term for them to make that decision. Like you said, history. That's just based off history.

32:19Chad Johnson:I can see Carson Williams being solid, Uncle Ocho. He ain't got to go out there and be Superman, Ocho. He got some good weapons he can use. They got a good defense. It ain't like he got to go out there and win games. Hell, he just got to get into them playmakers they got. Ocho, but you make it seem like he just hold like Kyle Murray come back. Kyle Murray been like that his whole career. You make it seem like he holding the spot down for...

32:46Joe Johnson:Time out. you know they had a quarterback competition right no they didn't before the decision was made on who was going to be the starter he was coming in on a one year deal he beat out Carson Wentz what you think Carson Wentz hold on one year

33:02Chad Johnson:Carson Wentz that wasn't a quarterback competition really the quarterback competition was between J.J. McCarthy and Kyler Murray Carson Wentz absolutely yeah that was the competition competition. Why am I having a competition? You said now, the one guy we traded, the number 10 pick, he's the number 10 pick in the draft. We took the guy that was the number one overall pick. But you said the competition between the backup that's been a backup for the last five years and the guy that we just signed, you said that was the quarterback competition and not J.J. McCarthy?

33:42Joe Johnson:Absolutely. Because you know, they brought somebody in because and J.J. McCarthy wasn't the answer. There was no quarterback competition, period.

33:49Chad Johnson:There's a reason why he's the third string. Yes, I told you he would be third string. I say I recommend that they traded him. Excuse me, not traded him. They traded him.

33:59Joe Johnson:Yeah, I knew he was going to be third string too. I mean, but that's neither. We were right.

34:04Chad Johnson:But I always thought the competition was between Kyler, Ocho. He's the number one overall pick in the draft. Do you know how many opportunities? that's another reason that walking to him is still in the lead. He was the number two pick in the draft. Do you know how many chances those guys are going to get? Josh Johnson Josh Johnson has been on 12 teams. 14. 14. You know how many chances quarterbacks get Ocho? All you got to do is just keep your nose clean, don't get in no trouble, don't cause no confusion. Keep your job, get your job.

34:42Chad Johnson:That's all you got to do. But we're going to find out. We'll find out. But I think he's going to be out. I think he's going to be out for at least somewhere between two to four weeks. Oh, and they put what you call him on.

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37:23Chad Johnson:You gotta miss a minimum of four. Damn. No matter what. Ocho, the Bengals defeat the Buccaneers 33-27. Ocho thought Jabeen was going to let this one slip away. They dominated 21-3 until late in the second half. Joe Burrow, 25-35. 254 and an interception. He had a touchdown also. Chase, two catches, 12 yards. Ocho, go ahead.

37:50Joe Johnson:They double-chased all game. That's fine. It's okay. T. Higgins stepped up, had some big catches, especially on third down to keep some drives going. Kaseki, he had a good game. Joe, listen, you want to minimize the turnovers, but the defense played so well. Uncle Joe, what did I tell you? We made improvements on what side of the ball. Huh? There was a time we couldn't stop a nosebleed. But this year, even though it got a little scary, even though it got a little scary on the back end, because I think we played a little too conservative in that second half, we ended up winning the game. But Zach Taylor, please, I beg of you, I implore you to continue the step on next when we have leads.

38:32Joe Johnson:Please. I beg of you to do that. Defense, they play lights out. They cause four turnovers. I think out of those four turnovers, I think we got points on almost everyone, if I'm not mistaken.

38:42Chad Johnson:You got a scoop and score.

38:43Joe Johnson:But we'll stay well. Yeah, scoop and score. Hey, remember what I told you about Demetrius Knight? Remember what I told you about Demetrius Knight? Hey, Uncle Joe, he's the second year. Young bull all over the place. When you watch him, when you watch safe on him, you know, 20, what do you call it? 21? All 22. All 22. Boy, Joe, he all over the place. Like, you got 11 people on the field playing defense, right? But for the reason, he pops out on film every single time. And he showed up today. He showed up big time, man. Defense, they play really well against the run, against the pass. Obviously, they were a bend but don't break defense today.

39:23Joe Johnson:I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I'm very happy. I'm very happy with the way we look today. Very happy. Now offense, we got to get going, Uncle Joe. We got to get going.

39:33Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe. Baker single-handedly gave this game to the Bengals. How many he had? He going in for a touchdown. He going to score. He fumbled, Ocho. Touchback. He got his goal. He fumbled. Scoop and score. He fumbled late in the game. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Yeah.

39:53Joe Johnson:Trying to make plays. Bro, you not Josh Allen.

40:00Chad Johnson:You not. You know what makes, you know what irks me? When a guy make a mistake and they look up at the jumbotron. You effed up. You don't need to look up there to see it. You did it.

40:14Chad Johnson:I don't know what it is, Joe. It's just something about that just irks me. And Chad, y 'all know what I'm talking about. Every time somebody mess up something, the first thing they do, they look up at the board. Yeah. What you looking for? They in disbelief. They trying to make sure.

40:31Joe Johnson:Hey, they trying to see where everybody came from. I felt like I was free. I didn't feel like nobody was around me. You know, you look at the jumbo. If you carried the ball, first of all,

40:41Chad Johnson:you're not used to running with the ball like that. Put the ball away. Look, and plus, he got, look, I don't want to beat him up too much because he got a flap jacket on. So, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? So, instead of being tight to your body, it's like this right here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but you got to hold on to the ball. Yeah. Hey, hey, oh, Joe. Well, if y 'all defense can consistently create these, you know, turnovers and create turnovers that way. So Barrow, he and he don't have to come out and feel like he got to he got to throw three, four touchdowns. You know what I mean? Yes. You got to take some stress off.

41:20Chad Johnson:I mean, if y 'all defense can continue to do that, I don't know if y 'all could, you know, if If they can continue to do that, boy, y 'all going to be all right.

41:27Joe Johnson:Yeah, we're going to be straight. I just know the offense wasn't the offense today. And that's okay. That's okay. I know we made plays here and there, but the offense, if we had four turnovers, I'm expecting 21 points out of turnovers. I know we got field goals. I think we got seven out of one, obviously, to scoop and score. But offensively, we got to find a way. We got to get Chase going. We're playing the Texans this week coming up. Chase is going to have a stake. They're going to force feed him. They're going to get him going because for the best receiver in the NFL right now, there's no reason he should have two catches for 12 yards.

42:04Joe Johnson:I don't care if they're trying to stop him the whole game. You find ways to involve him in that system. You find ways because I know he was frustrated. And he's wearing that C on his chest, so you know he can't show no emotion. He can't do nothing. You got to take that one.

42:18Chad Johnson:It's part of the game plan, Ocho, trying to keep the ball out of that young man's hand. Yeah, getting frustrated. That's what I'm trying to do. That's what I try to do with any number one receiver. I'm going to double his ass early. I don't want you to touch the ball because I know if they give it to you early, they got you late. No, I want you to struggle early so you can question late. Yeah, you want him going to the sideline, taking his helmet off, throwing it out. That's what I want. That's what I want. I want him throwing Gatorade. I want him talking to his teammates.

42:50Joe Johnson:You know, with Chase, Hey, Uncle Joe, all you gotta do is watch his body numbers and it lets you see how you feel. He's not like a Dez Bryant, a T.O. You know, when they not getting the ball, oh, they gonna let you know.

43:05Chad Johnson:Yeah.

43:06Joe Johnson:Oh, they gonna let you know.

43:08Chad Johnson:What they doing? They going up to the quarterback, oh, Joe? What? No, they on the phone.

43:13Joe Johnson:They going to the O.C.

43:15Chad Johnson:Oh.

43:16Joe Johnson:Hey, they on the phone? Hey, man, what we doing? I mean, what you see? I see everything. What you see? I see y 'all not throwing me the ball. I see that. Hey, but I'll tell you one thing. In Houston, this weekend, this Sunday, you know, hey, Joe, they finna force feed that boy, that ball. It's just the way football works in general. You're going to have games like this. You don't want week one to start off like this. But when the number one has a week like this, Joe, them first 15 scripted plays, why six of them things going up. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

43:52Chad Johnson:You don't want to have a week one like this. Yeah, y 'all won the game. What you read? You rather have 15 catches in a loss or you rather have the dub with two catches? Which one? Joe, don't try to use that reverse. Five catches. Oh, what you rather have? Tell me what you rather have. Hey, I want the win. I want catches, but give me the win.

44:14Joe Johnson:Yeah, hey, I'm with you when you're right, Joe, but we need to get our number one player going. I ain't trying to hear all that now. I hear you, though.

44:21Chad Johnson:I'm just saying. Damn.

44:23Joe Johnson:I'm with you.

44:24Chad Johnson:I'm with you. I'm with you. Baker Mayfield was 23 of 28, 216, zero touchdowns. He was sacked four times, but he fumbled the ball three times. Baker also had a costly fumble. Fumbled the ball in the end zone. A whole load of that. They look like about to score. Because they look like they only lost by six points. You turn the ball over. You minus three. in the turnover battle and you only lose by a touchdown he kicking himself on he and he just

44:52Joe Johnson:got that nice little contract too hey it's again that's on us that's on us that's on us

45:01Chad Johnson:offensively uncle joe baker may feel have technical difficulties for his early struggles let's take a listen to what he had to say uh no they had some headset issues for quite a while in and out, which is not an excuse, but when they're testing them on the sidelines and they work perfectly fine, then you get out in between the hashes, then it's not working. It's unfortunate, but it wasn't the whole time. Just kind of first drive for sure and then sporadically throughout the rest of the game. But yeah, we need to get in and out of the huddle quicker. How frequently has that happened to you? That's the first time it was that bad.

45:36Chad Johnson:Wait, so you couldn't hear something? What? Yeah, I see the headset going in and out. the play coming into the headset that that don't matter that wouldn't help no way well help me understand this ocho what does that got to do with the fumbles though i don't need to hear them hold on to the damn ball so you would have got to tell you hold on to the ball banker yeah yeah it was no need to even mention that yeah he could have kept that one You don't wanna make no excuses. That's what it sound like.

46:08Joe Johnson:I didn't play well. Hey, I know one thing. They gonna have a bounce back week cause you know who they playing.

46:18Joe Johnson:Man. Well, I'm hoping Deshaun can get it done, boy. Come on, man.

46:26Chad Johnson:Yo, you ain't got no faith in him? It ain't even about that. I just think it's the situation that he's in, Ocho. I just, it's hard to find any bright spots. Like, I'm just trying to put myself in his shoes. It's like, damn, boy, if I don't come out here and throw for about 330 here, how we gonna win? We can't.

46:45Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you heard what you just said? It's hard for him to find any bright spots. He has to be the bright spot, Joe. He got to be the bright spot. He has to be the one to elevate everybody around him because you don't have that type of support in the cast that can elevate you. you got to find a way to go back in time and be that Deshaun Watson and goddamn Houston. Now, obviously, it's been a very long time. Can he do it? Can he muster it up, you know, to bring that magic back, you know, one game? I don't know. Nah, nah.

47:19Chad Johnson:I'm just saying that rhythm that you have when you play, you know, I think we taking that for granted, Ocho, considering the fact that this young man hadn't really played significant football or meaningful football in quite some time and i'm quite sure he probably never been under this kind of damn pressure before ever in his life no you know what i'm saying so to be able to think you're gonna get the best out of him at this point i mean you will hope so but man this this is trying times for the

47:44Joe Johnson:young man bro this is you got to think about too younger joe when jeshawn watson was at his best he was playing free. I don't have nothing to worry about. I didn't have any pressure outside of the pressure of just being a quarterback and having to do what I do. It's a different kind of pressure right now because the expectations are on him. But guess why he was able to play

48:06Chad Johnson:free? Because he was playing good. He's not playing good. The pressure that he feels, he plays to himself by playing the way he's played. Yeah, I agree. Whatever happened is happening off the field off the field but Ocho he hadn't played well on the field

48:28hey I would you be right I can't argue with you sports is really really simple

48:34Chad Johnson:we're in the results based business results that's all we care about results wins and losses yes I don't want to hear nobody no headset What did the headset, the reporter should have said, okay, so you took off running. You got the ball. You got a first down. You fumbled the ball in the end zone. That's not a headset issue. You get strip sack from behind, a scoop and score. That's not a headset issue. The other situation, you get sacked. You get it pulled out. That's not a headset issue. Bucky Irvin fumbled the ball. That's not a headset issue. Some things like when you lose, some things like you might think it.

49:20Chad Johnson:Couple times on Joe, I know you like, man, man, we got hoes, that was a bad ass call, man. We should, why go say that? Cause now it's gonna make it seem like we lost the game because of that call. Yeah. We had been played well, we played ourselves back into the ball game, but I just, I don't know.

49:44Hmm.

49:48Chad Johnson:These guys, I just, it bothers me. They got everything, Ocho, and they still come up with excuses. I mean, they get breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You got a red light therapy bed. You got saunas, steam room, dip tanks, cold plunge. Ocho, what is it that you don't have? Massez. Yes. Yeah.

50:15Joe Johnson:Hey, I see you through that little joke in there.

50:17Chad Johnson:i'll see you i'll see you joe that's a good no no no no come on man you gotta cheer you gotta chill for real yeah yeah cowboys got everything out they still lay the egg

50:31Joe Johnson:for me man tell my son oh the cowboy oh the cow oh yeah yeah yeah joe yeah that was what y 'all put

50:36Chad Johnson:on and y 'all the last performance and y 'all supposed you supposed to put your best on because normally when you like you go to comedy shows they put the best confidence normally they normally you normally put the best comic at the end. Yeah. The headline, the headline. But you put the best. It was the headline. You go to the little plays, the best, whoever can sing the best, dance the best, they normally at the end. So they say, you know what? Who we want to bring the curtain down tonight? Dallas Cowboys. Yeah.

51:06Joe Johnson:They put the curtain down, all right.

51:07Chad Johnson:Y 'all know we the highest, come on, man. We're not debating that. Yeah, but I'm saying that why we playing last. You up with your circus, Joe? Yeah, I've been in the circus before. Where the elephant leave on the showground? You already know where he live.

51:33Chad Johnson:Damn. That's what normally happens, Joe. Yeah, y 'all had y 'all fun with this, man. Y 'all had y 'all fun. We're going to bounce back. It's okay. When you're teeing off and your clients are watching, it's on. When the game goes to overtime and your squad is right there with you, it's on. When you swap out that other nicotine pouch for something softer and feel the difference right away, it's on. On Plus Nicotine Pouches with Nico Silk Mesh. No corners, no rough edges, just the softest pouch on the planet. When there's nothing between you and what's next, it's on. With On Plus Nicotine Pouches.

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