In short
The hosts debate NBA analytics vs “eye test” (especially on Jalen Brown), discuss Jalen Brown’s reported family connection to A.J. Brown, react to Trae Young’s “best version of me” message, cover Tim Hardaway Sr.’s “change of heart” about his son wearing No. 10, and analyze a legal ruling involving Terry Rozier’s NBA return amid sports-gambling charges.
Guest backgrounds
No named guests appear in the provided transcript. The show is a panel discussion featuring Bob Myers (referenced), plus recurring hosts/speakers (Joe, Ocho, etc.) and athletes discussed (Jalen Brown, A.J. Brown, Trae Young, Tim Hardaway Jr./Sr., Terry Rozier, Malik Beasley).
Key claims
Analytics undervalue defense and game “nuances.” Jalen Brown’s tough assignments and consistent scoring justify his value; if his usage/role changes, team success changes. Rozier’s bail modification request was denied; his non-contact violations undermine trust with teams.
Notable examples
Klay Thompson/Finals defense vs Luka; Derrick White’s numbers vs Philly; Rozier’s text-message breach of non-contact terms; Rozier’s bail conditions complicating practice/play.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBob Myers Defends Jaylen Brown
1:06 to 1:17
Discussion on Bob Myers defending Jaylen Brown against analytics criticism.
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Bob Myers Defends Jaylen Brown
3:08 to 6:34
Discussion on Bob Myers defending Jaylen Brown against analytics criticism.
“Myers pointed out, you know who else analytics didn't favor?”
Jaylen Brown's Family Connection
6:34 to 8:00
Revelation of Jaylen Brown's familial ties to AJ Brown, sparking a fun discussion.
“Just say, look, guys, hey, we just, but we, he can't say that.”
Lighthearted Banter and Cousin Jokes
8:00 to 14:00
A humorous discussion among hosts about their familial connections and personalities.
“Hey, Chad, they're on the same tree, just different limbs.”
Lighthearted Banter and Personal Stories
14:00 to 19:42
The hosts engage in humorous banter and share personal anecdotes.
“I don't know what the hell he be thinking.”
Lighthearted Banter and Personal Stories
20:11 to 21:31
The hosts engage in humorous banter and share personal anecdotes.
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Lighthearted Banter and Personal Stories
23:10 to 24:10
The hosts engage in humorous banter and share personal anecdotes.
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Trey Young's Season Outlook and Team Dynamics
24:10 to 28:00
Discussion on Trey Young's potential impact on the league and his team's future.
“Yo, Trey Young has a message for everyone.”
Tim Hardaway Jr.'s Number Decision
28:00 to 30:20
Discussion on Tim Hardaway Jr.'s sentiments regarding wearing his father's number 10.
“He had a change of heart on the decision to let his son Junior wear the number 10.”
Terry Rozier's Bail Denial
30:20 to 31:22
Overview of the judge's decision denying Terry Rozier's bail modification request.
“It's funny because Tim Hardaway Jr., he's night and day compared to his pops, bro.”
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The Impact of Legal Issues on Player Careers
31:22 to 38:20
Exploration of how Terry Rozier's legal troubles may affect his career opportunities in the NBA.
“A judge denies Terry Rozier's request to modify his bail conditions.”
The Gambling Controversy in Sports
38:20 to 42:00
Discussion on the implications of gambling and its impact on athletes and teams.
“When Kay Cunningham passed that ball to Malik Beasley, and the ball went right through his hand.”
Discussion on Gambling in Sports
42:00 to 43:36
Explore the implications of gambling on athletes and sports integrity.
“He's like, oh, I'm going to lead the game, so I'm going to be guaranteed I'm not going to make.”
Discussion on Gambling in Sports
43:56 to 44:29
Explore the implications of gambling on athletes and sports integrity.
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Discussion on Gambling in Sports
44:32 to 45:54
Explore the implications of gambling on athletes and sports integrity.
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Discussion on Gambling in Sports
46:01 to 46:58
Explore the implications of gambling on athletes and sports integrity.
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Reactions to Gambling Scandals
47:56 to 54:01
An in-depth conversation about the ethics of gambling in sports and its consequences.
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Reactions to Gambling Scandals
54:36 to 55:12
An in-depth conversation about the ethics of gambling in sports and its consequences.
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Reactions to Gambling Scandals
56:03 to 56:26
An in-depth conversation about the ethics of gambling in sports and its consequences.
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Transcript
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3:07Shannon Sharpe:Bob Myers also defended Jalen Brown after Max Kellerman said analytics don't favor him. Myers pointed out, you know who else analytics didn't favor? Klay Thompson. Analytics doesn't value nuances of the game like shutting down the opposing team's best player.
3:23Chad Johnson:Mmm.
3:24Shannon Sharpe:You're absolutely right. So how was those analytics when they was in the finals and they played Luka and he did that job on Luka? How was those analytics? See, it seems like analytics only favor a guy when it comes to offense. But it doesn't look at nothing about defense. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad he said that. So I'm glad they detail because the nuances of the game, Ocho, momentum. That's a nuance. Yes. We just turned the ball over. We lost momentum. They've scored this many points. Nuances. Oh, it's fourth and three. They said we should go for it. Okay. Okay. But you know what? I'm glad Bob Myers because I don't – Damn me, man.
4:09Shannon Sharpe:Analytics, man. I'm more of an eye test type of guy myself, Joe. I mean, I understand. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I think Hannah Littes, I think they're... It's ruined the game a little bit. It has, Ocho. It really has. Because people put so much value in it and they look at pro football focus and they look at all these numbers. I mean, pro football focus might not like Jerry with all them shallow crosses and dig routes he was running.
4:39Chad Johnson:Hey.
4:42Shannon Sharpe:What's your eyes tell you, man? Yeah. It's the best thing. And there are other measurables that analytics can't measure. You're absolutely right. And that's how I'm looking at it. But, Clay, look, Clay – and give Jalen Brown credit because he's taken a lot of times the best team, especially if he is a three or a four or even a two. He's taken the best and still giving you the production that he's giving you.
5:12Chad Johnson:Every night. Every night.
5:14Shannon Sharpe:That's got to mean something.
5:18Chad Johnson:Man. He's taking the toughest offensive assignment every night, bro, and still coming out getting 28, 30 points. Come on, man.
5:27Shannon Sharpe:Yes. That's got to mean something. Oh, but the thing was, it's like, well, let's just say for the sake of argument, and they talk about his analytics, they were up through the roof. I think he was top five, maybe two or three, whatever the case may be. if his usage rate was 16 like it was with Jason Tatum, are they the two seed? Are they even going to make the playoffs?
5:53Chad Johnson:So my
5:53Shannon Sharpe:question is, Joe, who else you want to have the ball other than JB?
6:04Queda?
6:06Shannon Sharpe:Hauser? Pritchett? Derek? Y 'all better go back and look at Derrick White's numbers against Philly. Go look at his numbers. You want him with the ball in the hand? If JB doesn't do what he does, they're not making the playoffs. But it was a blessing and a curse. He's like, oh, oh, I can do this. Hey, ain't no turning back.
6:39Chad Johnson:man hey you heard him man say he felt like he came off his best season ain't no turning back most fun he had i think that was the the coup de gras yeah when they heard him say that
6:54Shannon Sharpe:you're my best season i ain't trying to go back and have seasons like i had before i'm trying to i'm trying to improve on this you know i had 29 i'm trying to get 30 31 and they're like well how is this going to work with JT
7:15Shannon Sharpe:and then they use everything this man going to say the usage rate and two players you about to sign Giannis who usage rate is higher as JB's guess what so Giannis and JT same high usage rate guess what 70 % of your a cap tied up in two players. But that wasn't going to be a problem.
7:41Shannon Sharpe:Just say, look, guys, hey, we just, but we, he can't say that. But we know. You can use that. But we know it was more to it than that. Yes. Jalen Brown reveals his cousins, he's cousins with A.J. Brown. Take a listen to this, guys. crazy is that uh there's no such name oh wow really yeah i didn't know that my grandfather i don't think he know that his grandfather's brothers was my grandpa that's why
8:21damn hey that hey that's dope one guy shipped to philly the other guy shipped the monster yeah yeah i was just gonna say that that's dope bro that's dope damn hey hey i need to look up my
8:33Chad Johnson:uh hey joe we might be related joe hell no oh y 'all y 'all freaking cousins oh freak nah nah nah nah nah yeah yeah yeah hey yeah joe let me let me check my ancestry tree joe yeah
8:46Shannon Sharpe:ain't no damn ain't no damn way joe joe joe johnson boys oh johnson and johnson yeah that Why would they call him Johnson and Johnson? Yeah.
8:55Chad Johnson:I'm a different Johnson from Ocho. Same one. Hey, Joe, we cut from the same cloth. Hey, Chad, they're on the same tree, just different limbs.
9:06Shannon Sharpe:They're on the same tree. That's it. That's it. That's it. Hey, you know, I got some people down there I told you about.
9:13Chad Johnson:Chad, Chad, they trying to bamboozle me, Chad. Listen, hey, look, I like you. I think you're a cool brother. you know and then you know hey but you know you got some tendencies that i don't i don't really know bro you know i had to watch out for you sometime man anything you see me do is not tendencies man this is just me this is who i am joe like that too he don't want us to know yeah i know and he's shy huh i don't know why you ain't no if you were johnson you're supposed to be wide open with it like me no no no no see what i'm saying that's what i'm talking about see that's why i tell you it's some different type of johnson and me and you two totally different type of no no no joe we the same johnson in little rock arkansas so you kind of shy you shy with it me now i ain't that's the problem yeah hey i'm wide open with it off rip it's a what's up it's me i see we see we know how you get down yeah yeah yeah joe you get down the show you know no no no no no i don't get down like that because the chat saw like man joe on here man we ain't no joe talk like
10:14Shannon Sharpe:this we ain't no i know you did you just got to pull it out of him and once you got it out of look at him get them johnson johnson johnson yeah hey i just showed the energy and ocho oh oh freak oh oh chan frico johnson and joseph frico johnson bad nah nah listen listen that florida that florida johnson over there hey hey hey we back we back now hey hey listen um when joe like beyonce say when you get that lick in his system he get filthy now he just don't want to share that with us because we on the show and he want he got hold on what you mean what you mean i get filthy what
10:53Chad Johnson:you break that down for it to me and chat want to know what you mean i get filthy you know when you get that lick in your system drink somebody drink a sip of that leportier oh come on hey joe hey hey hey uncle he open it up just like randy mosh you hear me yeah you know you don't want to
11:08Shannon Sharpe:You think the man looking at the curtain at his house or something? Them cheeks, he got over like that. I know it. I know it.
11:19Chad Johnson:Hey, y 'all really got to relax, though, for real. For real. Y 'all got to chill. That don't make you no bad brother.
11:27Shannon Sharpe:We don't look at you in a different way. We family.
11:31Chad Johnson:Listen, listen. Y 'all got to chill out, for real. Y 'all got to chill, for real. Everybody had that one.
11:37Shannon Sharpe:had that one, you know. Yeah. He did things, he was a little off. But you know that's your cousin. That's Joe.
11:48Chad Johnson:Hey, boy, y 'all throw it off for that, for real. For real. But yeah, me and Ocho, we two totally different jobs. We ain't that. That's Saddam A boy. Yeah. Hey, you know what, Joe a little shy. He a little nervous. You know, you're a little nervous. I get it. I understand because I am. I am reserved. I'm reserved. Oh, it's a difference. Hey, Joe, I was reserved to an elementary. Huh? By the time I got to junior high, boy, I was wide open. That's what I'm trying to tell you. See, people in my family won't even get down like that. No, no, no, no, no, no.
12:22Shannon Sharpe:They do, Joe. You get down like that. You just don't want us to know you get down like that. But I don't. Like I say, that don't make you no bad brother because you get down like that. It don't. It don't. Hey, Joe, I'm going to still look at you saying no matter what you do. Look at Ocho. hey jay oh i don't look at ocho he like glizzes yeah no no difference right don't make him no bad brother whatsoever just like yeah he got i'm like man probably i say you know what i was thinking i said oh i said man i was wondering i shot ocho a text i said man ocho joe probably went out there and bought a couple of those gadgets you had on today last night yeah i know he did chat chat i I know you did, Joe.
13:01Chad Johnson:Do you see these boys, man? Hey, what's wrong with y 'all, man? What make y 'all think I indulge in that kind of act? Hey, you know what? You know what I was tripping to yesterday? What's that? And I'll give you my detailed description on ways you can improve your horizontal and maybe vertical activity at home. Joe, make sure you use that KY on the butt plug. You hear me? I sure. Oh, shut up.
13:31Chad Johnson:I'll tell you. Hey, for real talk.
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13:35Shannon Sharpe:Joe, that man said, make sure you don't roll the blood plug. You don't roll the dog the blood plug.
13:42Chad Johnson:You got suspended, man. He got to get a suspension. I'm sorry. His ass needed at least a two. He got to get a red card, Joe. He got to get a red card. His ass got to get suspended. This man is just out of pocket man, and it's getting worse. That's what I'm trying to say that why we got to stop it now For it just get it just I mean the boy in left field over there right now I don't know what the hell he be thinking. I'm like man. What is wrong with this dude? I can't go nowhere without somebody asking me by oh Joe say hi kinky. Yeah, come on, bro
14:22Chad Johnson:Come on them joe's as i know i'm ken too man we don't be rocking like that man hey joe i'm gonna tell you so you don't have no struggles that's all no damn that don't worry about it i ain't gonna need no i ain't had that problem partner this man hey chat i'm so sorry chat i promise you i'm sorry hey you know the chat been taking notes i know they trying everything everything the chat tried this thing they got out of hand boy are we good we good we good for real okay
14:53Shannon Sharpe:back down program my bad but when you go upstairs man your old lady like man baby what are you doing
15:06Chad Johnson:yeah she already know because she know i don't get down like that yeah hey ocho joe y 'all already
15:14Shannon Sharpe:know y 'all got y 'all got me y 'all got me crying nobody knows where the nose goes when the does close when the does close yeah because behind closed doors it's all considered sex yeah okay so i ain't no telling about you joe i wouldn't put it like my grandma's just said boy
15:30Chad Johnson:i wouldn't put nothing past it listen i ain't got not a damn one of them toys ocho got over there i don't have not one do you hear me i don't we yeah we good over here we won't get down like that You got more than one? Nah, we don't take... I don't... Damn, it took Ocho's little stomach, didn't it? Damn. There, Ocho. Boy, this is the AAA. I don't know what nightcap done turned it to, but it's getting out of hand. I think I got to be the first one to tell you. It's getting out of hand. We got to clean some stuff up around here. Nah, hey. That's y 'all, Joe. Real talk. Y 'all, too. Nah. Nah, nah, you know who it is.
16:12Chad Johnson:Old freak on.
16:13Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we speak and span.
16:15Chad Johnson:Nah, nah, hell nah. What you mean? Speak and span, hell.
16:22Chad Johnson:Don't try to put me in there, Joe. That's you and old Joe. Hey, hey, hey, you know what the problem is? You know what the problem is? I think I'm, most of the time, you know, when you do anything and you introduce something new to someone, you want to start off slow. Yeah. And I think I went too extreme with it. Yeah. went to his team with it so it joe joe is flustered because he's not used to that and obviously he said multiple times i'm not that kind of johnson so i gotta scale it back some and then start him off in kindergarten get him a little feather well hold on well see we'll see the problem here the problem is all this stuff you you throwing out here i'm cool on all that bro i i'm good like we gucci over here you feel me right i i i know you gucci that's what they all say joe but listen listen try this try to try the furry handcuffs try the furry handcuffs you hear me listen she'll she'll love these she'll love these you hear me now you can use them on the hands or you can put you use
17:18Shannon Sharpe:them on the ankles on the ankles yeah yeah but you got it but you ain't got the bar though joe because they got a bar that you put you could yeah but you don't say you got a little bar
17:27Chad Johnson:is a little ball about this long yeah yeah hey hey hey hey y 'all advance boy i'm i i ain't gonna lie to y 'all i learned some damn the air show we have man i really i really do i want you to take starting off starting off with the feather then we'll work we'll work it up to we'll work him up
17:47Shannon Sharpe:to the little the little the little the little look like like like the horses have they got a little one yeah little leather one about this big yeah with a little patch on it it looks like that looks like that we start you off slow hey joe what you think about the swing you ain't thought about getting the swing joe they're hanging the doorway nah i i wouldn't
18:07Chad Johnson:want to eat all that i i'm i'm a pretty big guy you know what i mean so i can handle my swing ain't for you joe the swing hold 500 pounds joe no i i ain't you you saying for me to get in you you big ass can't get this no no no i mean you i mean joe you can't get in that
18:23Shannon Sharpe:thing i gotta get in my ass i'm sure i show hate for i show hook for your lady to call the fire department to get you cut your ass off by that's way hey chat that's gonna be on the
18:34Chad Johnson:internet that's gonna be on the internet chat chat i'm sorry chat i don't know what the hell the conversation don't went to but hey joe yeah just bear with us bear with us these two johnson boys hey everybody in this chat do the exact same thing i'm talking about oh my goodness yo i don't know what you would do hey no no no uh between okay ocho you know i i know yeah yeah you always in it man i don't know why you be acting so perplexed when it come to when you hear your name in it yeah i like that's a big word yeah yeah i don't know why you acting like He just don't know. Yeah, you in it you and you headlining partner.
19:17Chad Johnson:You headlining. Yeah
19:18Shannon Sharpe:Well, no way why he be acting like you know, it's just oh, no, no, no, no, it's you don't show I'm just a traffic cop
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24:10Shannon Sharpe:Out the chain. What? Yo, Trey Young has a message for everyone. Trey Young, he tweeted, you about to get the best version of me. Trey last healthy season at 24-25. He averaged 24 points. 11 and a half assists. Joe, will 2026 be Ice Trey's best season yet with AJ and AD?
24:30Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think so, bro. Look, you got to understand something. Trey is a guy who makes guys around him better. I think, you know, his passing ability, not only scoring, but his passing is going to help young guys like A.J. out. Obviously, it's going to help A.D. He's going to make the game easier for everybody, and I think ultimately it's going to make the game easier for himself. And there's no better person or player to have coming into a season who really feel like they have something to prove, bro. Because you know you're going to get the best out of them. Like, he just reiterated that, you know, you're going to get the best version of him.
25:08Chad Johnson:And I really believe it, bro, considering the fact that, you know, he probably still a little salty about Atlanta giving him up, whether he say it or not. But obviously, congrats, Trey. Boy got his money. Now he want to show up and show out, Arke Ocho. And he got a nice squad, bro. I'm telling y 'all, I'm rooting for the Wizards, man.
25:25Shannon Sharpe:And considering, think about how many lobs he threw to Capella. He got Anthony Davis now.
25:32Chad Johnson:And AJ. Yeah. And, I'm sorry. Like, he got plenty of guys he could throw lobs to. But you're right.
25:38Shannon Sharpe:I like it. And, yeah, it was tough because that city, because they really hadn't had a whole lot, Joe, basically like Dominique, and then they had to wait kind of for you to come there. And then when you left, they had to wait a minute, and then they got Trey. somebody they can just get behind like that's our guy
25:58Chad Johnson:yeah yeah yeah
26:00Shannon Sharpe:so they had that and now it's gone you know hey the human highlight and then they have ISO and then they had Ice Trey hey I don't know what Jalen Johnson nickname gonna be I don't know what they gonna give CJ but some hey they love hey the Hawks they love their superheroes
26:24Chad Johnson:I think the Hawks are in a great position. I love Jalen Johnson and everything about him. Obviously, I think the playoffs this past season was a great experience for him. I think he's going to take another leap this year as opposed to still being that superstar player who we know and love. I think he got a chance to really take this franchise to a whole different level, bro.
26:47Shannon Sharpe:I agree. I agree. I hope he has a great season. You see what you call them. They're asking Golden State. I just read today Golden State is trying to re-engage the Wizards. We got Jimmy Butler, like two first-round picks and a pick swap. They really trying to entice LeBron. I think if they get AD, LeBron going to the Warriors.
27:12Chad Johnson:Yeah, I just don't see. But if you're the Wizards, why the hell would you do that? Why would you give up AD for Jimmy Butler? As much as I love Jimmy Butler and what he brings to the game, he's not going to be healthy. And I just don't really see that being a great fit, ultimately, for A.J. DeBassa, who is your future. But Jimmy's on an expiring contract.
27:33Shannon Sharpe:So he'll be out here. He's only going to be there for half a year. Right.
27:37Chad Johnson:But, damn, if you're talking about trying to win or change the franchise around, I mean, I get it. Not really. I really don't get it, obviously. Yeah, I'm saying if you're trying to get off AD, I don't really, unless you just don't want to pay him the max and you feel like it ain't worth it, okay, cool. You know what I mean? But outside of that, I feel like he's going to be a great piece for that squad, bro.
28:01Shannon Sharpe:Tim Hardaway Sr. apparently had a John Q moment. He had a change of heart on the decision to let his son Junior wear the number 10. Let's take a listen to what Junior had to say. To the number, which everybody wants to know, I'm just going to leave it at this. The first go around it was a personal decision and I think the second go around was a family decision I've been wearing that number ever since I Started playing the game in basketball because of my father. I always looked up to him ever since I started playing the game Mama say boy, I gotta say Tim get that boy that number You can't say you want him to chart his own path when you gave him your name he junior if you want him to chart his own pass you should have named him David Hardaway you should have named him Chris Hardaway you named him Tim Hardaway Jr right and then you tell the man to chart his own course well you kind of inhibit him from doing it a little bit
29:03Chad Johnson:yeah that's why I didn't do that that's why I didn't name none of my boys Joe hell nah yeah yeah we're gonna get y 'all y 'all on damn name yeah a lot a lot a lot of expectations and pressure come behind wearing that number yeah for sure it's one thing to be hard away junior but wearing that 10 especially down here in miami so expectations are gonna be through the roof to be able to continue that legacy you know that your dad left tim how much you charge him senior how would you charge junior for that number he ain't he ain't charge hey hey he he softened up up at the end, Uncle Ocho. Go on ahead, son, go on ahead.
29:41Shannon Sharpe:Mama had something saying that. That's who softened up. Yeah. I bet, see you probably won't say, he won't say nothing, but I guarantee you, she had a little say in that. Boy, get that boy that number. Right. But I'm glad it worked out. He gets to wear the number that he's always worn. He said he's always looked up to his father, admired his father. The father was a hell of a player, especially Golden State, played really well with the Heat. But, man, him, Mitch Richmond, Chris Muller was something special. And they had Sharunas Marcellonas in Golden State that run TMC. Boy, they had something special, man.
30:20Chad Johnson:They did. They had a special group. You know what's funny, though? It's funny because Tim Hardaway Jr., he's night and day compared to his pops, bro. Like, when you talk about game, they game don't even, you know what I mean? it don't even match up. It's like, hold on. Because Tim Hardaway senior, ooh, Tim Hardaway senior, he was mean with it. Boy.
30:43Shannon Sharpe:Now the difference is his crossover, AI had to crossover way out here like this here. AI was bringing it way out here like this. Wow, wow.
30:52Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.
30:53Shannon Sharpe:Hardaway thing was nice and kick kick. Was nice and tight. Compact, tight. Yes.
30:57Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.
30:59Shannon Sharpe:Float game. Big, big.
31:01Chad Johnson:Yeah.
31:02Shannon Sharpe:Junior is just mainly a sniper.
31:05Chad Johnson:Yep. Yep. Yeah. Found a way.
31:09Shannon Sharpe:Senior is with a. Ca-ca crossing you up, getting to the bucket.
31:15Chad Johnson:One of the top point guards in his day, bro.
31:18Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. A judge denies Terry Rozier's request to modify his bail conditions. Terry Rozier wants to play in the NBA while he fights sports gambling charges that sideline him last season. Bail conditions that bar him from contact with certain players and limit his travel could complicate the potential return. U.S. Judge LaShawn D 'Arcy Hall on Wednesday denies a defense request to modify Rozier bail conditions so he can practice and play with potential witnesses as long as they don't talk about the case. The judge said it would be impossible to police Rozier's own court conversation. She admonished Rozier for already violating the non-contact provision of his$3 million bond by sending text messages to a person to which he's told not to communicate with.
32:08Shannon Sharpe:Rozier was contacting the person to tell them that he was on the non-contact list, the R.C. Hall said. What that tells me is that he believes he knows better than the court, Hall said. at the hearing in Brooklyn's federal court. Rozier said, Rozier, she said, violated the court's trust with that text message. Joe, what team is going to pick you up, bro? Bro, yo, it's over. It's over. They going to trust you.
32:43Chad Johnson:Hey, as good as a player that he is, Malik Beasley is, Terry Rozier is, it's just hard to see a team taking a chance on them okay ocho what do you mean hard to see joe it's hard am i it's hard it's a it's a pr nightmare they're not dealing with that that's what they don't want bro they had to answer that they had to answer that every day and then don't let you have a bad game because hell they they you're gonna have to read between the lines on the question
33:12Shannon Sharpe:they every turnover yeah every loose ball that he doesn't get now i'm now i question everything And that's not how it should be. I should be able to watch the game in which Terry Rozier or Malik Beasley plays and have no thought come across my mind. Man, he missed that shot on purpose. Man, why he didn't get that rebound? Man, why he dribbled the ball off his foot? I shouldn't have to watch a game like that. And, bro, you know you're not supposed to. And guess what happened? That person that you contact, they told.
33:49Chad Johnson:They told.
33:50Shannon Sharpe:They say, I ain't finna go. Hey, bro, I'm not finna. I'm trying to get up out of this. You trying to get me in some stuff. You trying to, hey, bro, I'm already in water, deep water, and you turn the hose on and put more water in the ocean. I'm trying to get up out of this. Hey, no different from. I don't know who he talked to, Joe, before you go. I don't know who he talked to, but they told. Yeah, yeah.
34:15Chad Johnson:I mean, there's no difference than the Soresby kid from college football, bro. Yeah, Texas Tech.
34:23Shannon Sharpe:It's going to be hard.
34:24Chad Johnson:Hey, man, nobody even going to probably give you a shot, bro. Think about it. If y 'all was a GM or owner of a team, man, you don't want that on your team, bro. I'm sorry. If it was a situation a couple of times, 9 ,000.
34:42Shannon Sharpe:Do they know how many 9 ,000? Just start counting. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. That's a lot of bets. Then go to 20. Now go to 100 bets. Now go to 1 ,000 bets. Now go to 9 ,000. I just don't know how you trust that. I don't. Now, he might go to counseling, and he might go to a bit. Because here's the thing. You might be able to say, you know what, I'm done with this. I'm not going to do it anymore. The problem that you run into is to convince teams and owners and general managers. You heard Todd Munkin. The man bet on the game. I don't know if you want your franchise quarterback. That's what you want from him?
35:28Shannon Sharpe:No. That's the thing, though. I mean, and he got a$3 million bond. And he had a – because they'll tell you who you can and can't communicate with. Right.
35:40Chad Johnson:Hold on. How long have he been locked up? No, he out.
35:42Shannon Sharpe:He don't bond.
35:44Chad Johnson:Oh, he on bond. Yeah,$3 million, which is normally a 10%.
35:48Shannon Sharpe:Now, they might have made him put property up or something like that. But normally, I mean, sometimes they'll give the aid. They might make you have a$3 million cash bond. But I'm assuming this is 10 % of that, which is$300 ,000.
36:06Shannon Sharpe:Especially if they think you're a flight risk. But they're going to take your passport, and they'll put a GPS monitor on you. they really think you're flat risk. They really, they really, hey, 100 million, 200 million, 300 million dollar bond.
36:22Chad Johnson:They make you reflect, bro. Yeah. Got to. Like, damn. They try to put it so high,
36:28Shannon Sharpe:especially if they, they really concerned about you, knowing that you probably can't come up with it. And then it's like, nah, they put your ass on home. They put your ass on house arrest. Home confinement. You can't leave. But I, I don't know, bro. You know your agent, your attorney has already told you, but you got the affidavit. You already see the complaint. And a part of the stipulation is you cannot have communication with, I can't talk to Joe, I can't talk to Ocho, I can't talk to Jordan, I can't talk to Ash. Even through an intermediary. Well, I didn't know I could. I ain't talked to him directly.
37:12yeah but you sent word through somebody else that's the same thing bro i i good luck i wish
37:20Shannon Sharpe:you the best bro but i just don't see our team gonna touch you or malik moving forward no i mean you you know they're not and and simply as great as he is obviously having this you know over shatner over your head teams don't want to deal with the pr nightmare no that's that's that's all that's all it comes down to it's an absolute pr nightmare of course because like you said, like we talking about you watching the game and he turned the ball over. Tell me what's the first thing that will go through your mind. He missed a wide open layup. He missed a wide open shot. What's going through your mind, Joe?
37:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You found that man in the situation. Like, bro, why you Hey, he had to come back and be damn near perfect from the field, Joe. It would because you think about it. When you You go back, and when they went back and they played some of the clips that he did, they talk about he's going to miss part of the game. You see the man make a shot, run down the court, and then all of a sudden he grab his ankle. Oh, damn. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Or you get a situation. And, Joe, we talked about it. When Kay Cunningham passed that ball to Malik Beasley, and the ball went right through his hand.
38:31Chad Johnson:Right. Yeah.
38:33Shannon Sharpe:Now you looking. Hey, make you think. He get the ball. The line was seven and a half. They up nine. He get the ball, race down the court, dunk it. Now you win by seven. Yeah. Everything go get called into question. It's just tough. That, and we've seen the NBA, we've seen MLB, we've seen the NFL. Forgive a lot. But, boy, when you start gambling, Art Sleaster. Now, there have been situations, but this was way back. You look at Paul Horning had a situation. there was a defensive lineman. He was the father on Webster. He had a situation. They got suspended for a year. Who else? I think it was like three guys.
39:26Shannon Sharpe:Horning. I forget. Chad, I forget the guy. But he was the father on Webster. But he was a defensive lineman for the Detroit Lions. Chad, you can look it up. I think it was three of them way back when. And they got suspended for a year. but I think now Art Sleaster, they just say, you done. Because they tried to give him grace, and he just like he couldn't help himself.
39:57I don't know. I mean, that gambling man, people just want to believe it.
40:04Shannon Sharpe:Because now, even more than ever, because you see so many guys being involved in it, and I didn't understand. I mean, I'm looking at some of these guys, and they're doing these prop bets. I'm like, guys, you're making millions, and you're trying to win hundreds? What does that make?
40:23Chad Johnson:It don't. It don't make no sense. At all. But when you got all these different gambling spots on the Ochoa where you can bet on these games, man, you got to figure.
40:33Shannon Sharpe:Alex Karras.
40:34Chad Johnson:Go ahead, Joe. You got to figure some of these guys going to indulge in it a little bit. You know, I think that's just human nature, and that's why you see so many guys who've got caught up, whether it's collegiate, whether it's pros. Hell, and it's just the people they caught.
40:50Shannon Sharpe:But, Joe. You know what I mean? I'm making$30 million. I'm making$35 million. I can bet on baseball. I can bet on football. I can bet on tennis. I can bet on golf. I can bet on the World Cup. just don't bet on your sport I can't make it make sense
41:07Chad Johnson:for you what you say everything you just named you can't control those outcomes they're betting on situations where they can control the outcomes and obviously most of the time hey Uncle Joe not only are they betting I think sometimes they're in positions where they don't want to bet anymore but they're in bed with the wrong people they don't have a choice but to keep doing it but but hold on but hold on if you trying to control a game uncle ocho to where you win these bets man you can't have nobody betting no damn hundred thousand two hundred thousand ain't no hold on after blue we get these bets from from terry roger and malik beat come on bro
41:49Shannon Sharpe:they looking into that asap but it's the plot it's the prop bets consider i mean they're like Like you said, Joe, under a certain number of points. He's like, oh, I'm going to lead the game, so I'm going to be guaranteed I'm not going to make. That's the one way to control it.
42:09Chad Johnson:Yeah.
42:11Shannon Sharpe:I just. I think they got stuck, Joe. I think they got stuck. Ocho, with all the money that you're making from basketball,
42:22Chad Johnson:hell, you can go pay your damn debt off. No, I'm saying I think they got stuck in bed with certain people that were gambling. And those people that they were gambling with were relying on them to do certain things to make sure they kept that money coming in. For other people, not them. I hate it for them dudes, bro. I'm talking about two cats who could play and could help a real contender. I hate that for them, bro.
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48:07Shannon Sharpe:That's it. It's a wrap, right. That's all it takes. But like, you know, we were talking about, like, that's what I don't, you know, like, bet on other sports. For me, I just couldn't do that. To bet on, to basically bet against my team or knowing the hard work that I put in, knowing the hard work that either the other guys put in Ocho and Joe, and this is what I'm going to do.
48:32Shannon Sharpe:sometimes like I said everything doesn't have to make sense this doesn't make sense to me that you know you making 30 million these guys weren't making no money you see boxing everybody said boxing was the fix guys taking dives Ocho but it wasn't no money Ocho if you making 40, 50 million dollars if I can't make 100 million why am I even because normally people bet, I bet 500 with the hopes of winning 5 ,000, 50 ,000. I'm not betting no millions hoping to win hundreds or thousands. I make 30 million. Terrell, you're making 30 million a year. Damn. And you're going to go gamble on your game. You don't want to bet football.
49:21Shannon Sharpe:You don't want to bet baseball. You don't want to bet hockey or World Cup or soccer. They got soccer games going on all the time that you can bet on. You don't want to bet on golf. You don't want to bet on baseball. You want to bet on the sport that you play?
49:34Chad Johnson:You want to control it.
49:38Shannon Sharpe:You're messing around and you're seeing you somewhere where you can't control nothing.
49:42Chad Johnson:Hello. Hello. Hello. Not even draws you put on. Nah.
49:49Shannon Sharpe:I mean, can you imagine you making that kind of money and then you go? what you think they're going to say when he come in there now he ain't going to go to the big house he'll go to one of those little farm houses something like that but what you think they're going to say go to Fed what you think they're going to say to him bro really you know what they're going to say really bro 30 million and you're going to bet props
50:18they in the Fed they can't say nothing in it because they They're asking that for a reason.
50:22Shannon Sharpe:But, Joe, which one of them ones you're thinking they're making$30 million? I mean, you might find some of them guys that's going to swindle some people out of some money, you know, them pyramid schemes and things like that to embezzle some money. But that's what I don't get. But they're embezzling hoping to take all the money. So I got a pyramid scheme. Bernie Madoff. Bernie Madoff. He's a billion, a billion dollars. Okay. Ocho. I still don't understand how he did that, boy. Because you give me$5 ,000. I give you$15 ,000 in two weeks. What you going to do next? You going to bring me more money, right?
50:58Shannon Sharpe:Because I just gave you$10 ,000 in two weeks on the$5 ,000 that you gave. So I gave you$15 ,000 back plus your$5 ,000. So guess what else you're going to do now? Man, God dang. You going to bring me more money and more money. Then you going to come to me. Because then I'm going to take the money I got from Joe and pay you. And then I'm going to take the money from somebody else and pay Joe. and guess what Joe gonna do? Bring me more money. That's how it worked. That's how Pyramids keep work. Yeah, but how you get to a billion? Because he dealing with people that got billions.
51:31Chad Johnson:Yeah, and they trusted him.
51:33Shannon Sharpe:The guy from the Mets. The guy that owned the Mets. All these people. Did you see all the famous people that he had money? That he had? Hell, he had billions.
51:43Chad Johnson:Yeah, he playing with some heavy hitters, Ocho.
51:47Shannon Sharpe:that's that's that's how pyramid scheme work that's how they get you you know what let me show you how good this thing is ocho give me 10 000 you give me 10 000 on a wednesday and two weeks later i shoot you your 10 000 back plus another 20. hey hey hey let my grandma say sometimes it's too good to be true it's no no there you go here's the thing he gave you the money back You ain't looking at it too good to be true now Because you got the money back You might be thinking that at the time That somebody can give you a 30-40 % return On your money But that's why you only gave him$10 ,000 So if you gave him$10 ,000 He give you$20 ,000 in two weeks Plus your$10 ,000 back If I give him$100 ,000 If I give him$500 ,000 What are you going to give me Joe?
52:40Shannon Sharpe:Oh got him Got him I done set the hook now
52:46Shannon Sharpe:just don't let him off yeah that's some bad work
52:50Chad Johnson:yeah yeah
52:53Shannon Sharpe:that's how the pyramid scheme work and then after a while guess what man Ocho you know hey give me one more week mmm that's what the game started playing yep
53:11Chad Johnson:now they ain't asking you calls now you ain't heard from
53:18I'm finna try that try what shoot hey Joe send me 10 ,000 I'm gonna get you 30 back now
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