Nightcap Hour 2: CATS out the BAG in PHILLY + TEXANS WR Xavier Hutchinson joins after BREAKOUT Game + Ravens DOWN BAD + LeBron's DECISION 2.0 HOAX

25:14Do you look at it, the fact that the Ravens were depleted defensively and had so many starters out, do you guys look at that and say, we don't care about who's hurt, whoever we line up in front of, they going to get that work and carry that same mentality into the next week. You got to, right? I mean, it's the NFL. Like I said, man, so, like, the second string, third string, them still good football players at the end of the day. So, like, you got to go in there with the confidence that, you know, anybody who lines up against you can get the work. And, you know, unfortunately, you know, they had a lot of injuries.

25:46I mean, you know, that's a part of the game. But, you know, you can't really – you can't lie. You can't really think about that. So –

25:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they ain't got nothing to do with us. do it at the end of the day hey i don't care if you're out there with a cane and a wheelchair i'm gonna go by you you got to right like that's just like you got to be a little you got to be a little crazy right with your thoughts and your thinking like you got to have that type of mentality or else you're just not gonna succeed in the nfl what cj what's he what's what's cj what's cj like in the locker room uh practice field the bus uh we know he's on the minute he's a competitor obviously he wants he had that sensational rookie year uh took a little step back he seems to be now with this big win over the ravens dropping 44 throwing i think four touchdowns clean game what what's cj what's cj like what's he been like sevens are pro like i know a lot of people you know that they can get tossed around a lot of different ways but seven are pro man like he's gonna come in every single day in the same person and uh i mean when you have that type of success, man, like, you know, you can change quickly, right?

26:57But he got set, like, his morals, his moral compass, what he believes in, like, that keeps him grounded as a person and then as a football player first. And as a person, bro, he funny, bro. He always joking around. He always got something to say. You know how those Cali people be, bro. They always got some jokes under their sleeve. They always want to joke with you, rank with you. But that's just, like, that's just who he is as a person, bro. Like, you wouldn't want anybody else as your quarterback, right? Like, you want somebody who gone – he walked through the door, you know he in there. Like, you know he in the building.

27:31And that, you know, that gives you confidence too. Like, you know, I'm catching the balls from seven. I'm making plays with seven. Seven trusting me to throw me the ball. Like, man, that's a good-ass feeling. I won't lie to you. Hey. You know what's funny? What I want to ask, and not to give too much away, when you have a game like you had, right, Do you see the offense getting you a little bit more involved, seeing that you can also be a playmaker outside of them always keying on Nico Collins or other players? Now we have another weapon in Hutch. Now y 'all got the focus on. You can't double goddamn Nico all day because Hutch are kidding.

28:12Yeah. I mean, I'm an athlete. I'm a competitor, bro. So, like, obviously I'm a receiver too. So, you know, like, I want the ball naturally. That's going to happen. like you're gonna want the ball so like but you know the first thing that i go back to is like you got to show an end game that you deserve to get the ball or that like you're you're worthy and then also like in the heat of moment you got to capitalize on your opportunities that you get because you're not gonna get too many like you know i'm saying like they may throw you some if you don't capitalize on them right you don't know when you're gonna see your next opportunity So like for me, it's really just always been like just being consistent, showing up every day, making the plays when I'm, you know, giving the plays and then going from there.

28:55So it's like, you know, I would like to hope so. I'm not coming out of the answer, but like, you know, I would hope so. But at the end of the day, too, I got to control. Listen, I understand the game of football. I understand the game of football. And they always reward those that they can count on in the most important times. so even if you haven't seen it yet I can tell you whatever your plate looks like before last week they're going to add some more to that plate they're going to add some sides I'm telling you I'm just telling you what's going to happen and subconsciously because of your performance against the Ravens if they don't call it seven coming to you any goddamn way because he's going to remember man when I needed him most man Hutz was right there subconsciously the ball coming to you that's what it's all about And that's some of the things that you can't coach.

29:46You can't coach that. There's some things you can't coach. It's in a quarterback's mind. They always remember who can account on in times of need. And when you show off the way you do, when you make the most of the few opportunities you do get, man, all right. If you go for 150 this week, just know, just give me the credit. I will. I'm going to shout you out for sure. I got you.

30:13Shannon Sharpe:X, why do you think you guys got up to such a slow start this year? I mean, if you really look at, like, how we played in those three games, like, we was in the game the entire time, right? Like, granted, we got, you know, one of the best defenses in probably the league. So you're always going to naturally be in games. But, like, we was just causing, like, our own conflicts on O. You know what I'm saying? Like, turnovers going to kill you late in the game. Getting behind in the chains early. like can't no offense be successful when you know you sitting in first and 20s playing behind the sticks so it's like you like you already playing a good team because it's the league of course but also you're not helping yourself when it's first and 20 second and 15 like it's hard to get a game going like that so like right you just got you got to be in front of the sticks that's what the league is man if you're sitting in third and four third and five the whole game you're gonna most likely convert them because you know you got good players so it's like man just not being ourselves up especially in like the heat of the moment i feel like it's why we got off to a slow start a little bit but also like them slow starts teach you a lot though like man you had a slow start so what nobody really cares you know the world gonna talk you know crazy about you but we all know what we got inside our building what we can do on any given day so it's like man you just got to keep that in the back of your mind too yeah what was the transition you go from blend junior college i will stay and then um to the nfl you went the juco route cam everybody knows cam went to blend um and then i will stay so what was your thought process when you went to juco man and juco bro it's only one way it's gonna go you're either gonna make it or you're gonna make it.

32:02Same. Hey, Santa Monica Jr. College right here. See, you know it. So then you know it then. Like, it's so much talent that go through Juco that probably nobody's ever heard of, nobody's ever seen before. You know, like, that's just the sad truth about Juco. Like, you gotta grow up very quickly. And you gotta learn from the mistakes that you made in the past. So, really, I'll tell you, like, Juco gonna make a man out you. Like, if your parents already did, I'm not throwing, like, my parents, man, they raised a great man, because I'm here today. but Juco taught me how to be a man and how to like take them licks on the chin and get back up so it's like Juco is just going to teach you more about yourself than you probably know because you either going to make it or you not going to make it and you can't really blame nobody for you not making it or making it it's all on you yeah

32:49Shannon Sharpe:we got a lot of guys Ochoa in Savannah State from Juco, Ittawamba Kahoma what's that one there's one in Kansas We had you from Islesworth What's the one? Coffeeville We had a bunch of Juco guys You know what? Where are you from originally? Jacksonville, Florida slash St. Augustine, Florida Are you from the crib? Come on now Oh man, stop playing I want to ask you I always want to ask people That actually live in that wonderful city That I don't like the jungle I call it the jungle What's it like living in Houston? It's different. Is it difficult? It is difficult a little bit. Just because like.

33:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, real difficult. Real difficult, X. You know what I'm saying, X? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I feel like you're saying difficult for a little bit of different reasons than what I'm saying difficult for. It's difficult. Difficult is difficult. Whatever your difficult is. I can't bicker with that. I done transitioned away from football because I've been to Houston one time and I ain't coming back. I've been there twice. I ain't coming back no more because I can't deal with that. So I'm trying to understand how do you focus in season when you got all that around you? Got to have a great backbone.

34:09Got to have a great backbone. I like that. I got to. I surrounded people who like who love me. You know why you there, X. And who care for me and want to see me be great. So like really trusting in like my family, my family, my backbone, my girls, my backbone. Yeah. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I got a lot of people who believe in me, who want to see me make this something more than just being – you know what the NFL stands for, not for long. Yeah. And I know me personally, I want to make this a career. I don't want to make it a job. So when – Wait a minute. Come on, bro. Come on.

34:47Come on. Hold on. I got to write that down. Hold on. I got to write that down. Hey, say it again. What you said? You got to make it a career, not a job. I can't lie to you, though. I can't lie to you, though. I did get that from somebody, though. I got that from Rob Woods, man, my first year in the league. He told me that. So I'm going to also throw him a little shout-out, too. So shout-out to Rob Woods, man. I appreciate you, brother. He gave me great gems. He gave me great gems.

35:12Shannon Sharpe:Check this out. Ocho, I'm going to throw this up for you, Ocho. This man was praised for his route-running ability when he came out of college. Yeah. So now that you can run the routes, what are you working on now? What are you trying to get better at now to make you that complete receiver? Because, yeah, look, running routes are fine, but, hey, I got to be strong at the point of attack. I got to be able to high point the ball, the 50-50 balls. I got to be able to run after the catch. I got to be able to block. What are you working on to make yourself that complete receiver? I would say, you know, I'm still fine-tuning my route running.

35:48You know, when I got to the league, I learned a lot. Like, I thought I was a really good route runner, and then I got to the league and I realized, you know what, bro? Maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was. I'm being thrilled, though, because you go against a lot of good DBs, man, and, like, any of the little small.

36:04Shannon Sharpe:You was tipping your routes? Were you tipping your routes? A little bit. I won't lie to you. I had this bad, bro. I had this bad habit, bro. I had this bad habit where I used to throw my head. So I throw my head to the right. That means I'm going left. Left. Oh, sure. Ain't nobody back there. Why would you tell me which way you're going? But it was like, a little bit of it was like, man, I didn't, I won't even lie to you. I didn't believe that, like, I could get open. You know what I'm saying? Like, I had a lack of confidence in myself that I couldn't do something that I've been doing for, you know, my whole life.

36:39And so, really, I made that a long answer. But always got to fine tune your route running. Always. That's something that you can never get, like, perfect at. You always got little small things. And then two, I'd probably definitely say the catch point, man. Just trusting my hands, sticking the mittens out there and grabbing the ball.

36:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Mm-mm. You don't catch with them. You catch with them. No, for sure. You definitely catch with your eyes. I also learned that, too. So, look, see, you're always learning something new every day. Hey, listen. Listen, man. When you want to get a little work in with them feet, come on down there for a little session. All you got to do is hit me up, bro. Hey, you know, I got wide receiver workshop. I'm going to the Yves Eagle Workshop in June or July. I'm going to send that invitation. I didn't get it last time. I didn't get it this time. I got you. I got you. Listen, I'm going to get it to everybody this time.

37:31I'm there. Yeah. I need all I can get. I got a whole lot of knowledge. I'm knowing. I crossed the water for you. I promise you, boy. I don't matter where I'm at, but I drop all my plans, bro. I'll come out there for sure. Appreciate it.

37:45Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate it. X, give me some of your strongest influence. When you were growing up, who were some of the big influences? maybe as a parent, maybe as a coach, maybe as someone that you saw. Give me some of your influences that help shape what we see here today. Honestly, I think it starts with my brother, my older brother. I wouldn't have probably played football without him. I wanted to be like him, like every little young sibling. You want to be like your older brother. So I wanted to be like my brother. And then two, I'd probably really say my receiver coach in high school, man, uh coach p uh he the one who kind of made me transition to being an outside receiver like my senior year in high school uh he saw something in me that i like you know i didn't really see in the moment and so like a lot of props to him bro for like just believing in me and seeing my potential woman maybe you know i didn't see it so i give a lot of props to him and then you know can never leave out your parents my mom and dad they raised me to be the man who i am.

38:44So I'd probably say I'm definitely probably my biggest influencers.

38:49Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. Well, congratulations on your breakout game. Continue success. Stay healthy. And when you have some more success, come back and tell us about it. I will. This will be the first show I get on. Hey, in fact, listen, wait before you go. I don't mean to beg, right? I don't really come to Houston often, but when y 'all next home game? I think in two weeks we play the 49ers. Well, you know, if you boy go ahead, if I catch me a spear fight out there, man. Can I get one ticket to the game? You're always welcome, bro. We're going to celebrate you here in H-Town, man. Come on now. Appreciate that.

39:21Appreciate that you're here. And you want to go to Area 29 with me? Hey, I got to focus on the season, man. He don't need one.

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44:36Shannon Sharpe:Ocho Rashad Bateman acknowledged today that it's kind of shocking to himself and the rest of the organization that the Ravens are off to a one and fourth start, which is tied for the worst in franchise history. The preseason betting favorite to win the Super Bowl, Baltimore has now lost three straight for the first time since 2022, including back-to-back losses of 17 points or more. Bateman said, the fans got every right to feel how they feel. They expect excellence. It's our job to deliver that. We're not upholding the standard right now, so we deserve all the criticism. Listen, this is a game of football, huh?

45:09It's a game of football. you know things happen when you have injuries most of the time you're not able to play as well as you did the previous season when certain important pieces to your offense or your defense are hurt that's that's just the way it goes most of the time we always say next man up but when it's too many of those next men that have to be up this is what you get you get you get one and four so you hope to get most of those key pieces to your offense or your defense back as fast as possible because if you fall too deep in a hole, you go to one and five. And you look up, you go to one and six.

45:43Well, hell, the season is over. At that point, you're just playing for pride in the name on the back of the jersey and the symbol on the helmet.

45:54Shannon Sharpe:What'd you do? You went out. You owe the glitch in Ochoa. What you doing? I ain't doing nothing. I'm sitting right here looking at you. You can't hear me? Oh, yeah, that's all you. You talk about me. That's your dial-up Wi-Fi. No. I paid for that Vance in my hotel.

46:19Shannon Sharpe:See, I can't hear you.

46:24Ash, can you hear me, Ash? I hear you. Okay. Hey, chat. Well, chat. Once again, chat is not me. We're having technical difficulties. and that's on Shannon's end. But anyway, I can sit here and talk to you guys. I'm not sure what y 'all are doing. I'm not sure what you're out. But again, I want to thank all of you for being here with us tonight. And I want you to do me a favor. Don't forget, go to our Instagrams, go to the NICAT Instagrams and vote for us because there's no reason why we shouldn't be in first place. We should win this by a landslide. And I mean that in a respectful manner to our competitors.

46:59You know, they do their thing. They do their thing. But what we got here is different. is different. That's all love to all our competitors, but we should be number one. So when Thursday, when the voting ends Thursday, we should be number one by a landslide. Okay? Can you hear me now, Ocho?

47:20Shannon Sharpe:You can't hear me. I'm just playing. I can hear you. You got me? Yeah, I got you. I heard you. I was just playing. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Look, with the Ravens, remember expectations. They were the betting favorites to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. So now here we are five games into the season we won it for. Yeah. But you have to understand, why were they betting favorites, huh? Look how they ended the season. I know they ended on a sour note, but they played well throughout the season. Lamar had a historical season. 47-1 touchdowns, four in the sessions. So you're expecting them to be in the Super Bowl because you're expecting them to pick up exactly where they left off at.

48:02Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but we didn't expect this defense to have as precipitous of a drop as it's had. As it did, right. So that's the part, okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, I was concerned, and Ocho, you remember when I say Ocho, I'm concerned about this defense. Man, it's only one game. It's only one game. As a former athlete, as a former football player, we look at tendencies. We look at things. We see things that you don't see. That's why it's hard for me to be a fan because I'm not just concerned about the score, how you score. Okay, what coverage were you in? When you ran this, what formation?

48:42Shannon Sharpe:I'm looking at that. And I'm like, bro, you gave up 250 yards? You gave up 22 points in the fourth quarter? And you're supposed to be an outstanding defense? Right. I don't know about that now. But also, you got to think about it now. I think people continue to confuse the Ravens' identity with being their defense. This is not the Ravens' defense of the 2000s or even that early 2000s, even when I was playing. That ain't that defense no more. Their identity now is on the offensive side of the ball. They have great defensive players in specific positions. Kyle Hamilton, one of the best safeties in the game.

49:19Shannon Sharpe:A$20-plus million safety, a$20-plus million corner, a$20 million linebacker, a$20 million defensive lineman. Oh, no, bro. I'm not finna let y 'all off the hook like that. Y 'all got to book up. I see where you're going with it. No, no, no. That's too much. Matt B. Quay, Pro Bowler. Lattimore. Excuse me, not Lattimore. The linebacker. Roquan Smith, Pro Bowler. Marlon Humphrey, Pro Bowler. Kyle Hamilton, Pro Bowler. Man, you got pro Pro Bowlers out of 11 starters? No, man. Come on. So, I think Kyle Vannoy went to the Pro Bowl last year. You got some great key offseason acquisitions. Jai Alexander, if he can get back to his playing form and playing shape and what we're used to seeing him play at when he was in Green Bay during his good days, especially in Man to Man.

50:12He had some great battles that we watched throughout the years with him and Justin Jefferson. So, if he can get back to playing what he's used to playing, like you got Nate Wiggins, who's also good. a highly talked about cornerback who showed flashes of brilliance and why he was drafted where he was. So I think once they get back healthy, they'll be fine. If someone could ride the ship, if Cooper Rush can ride the ship and keep their head above water until Lamar comes back, I think they're going to be all right. And that's heavy on the think. That's heavy on the think. I don't think they're going to be all right, Ocho.

50:52Shannon Sharpe:I'm concerned. I'm concerned. Well, I'm not because I'm a Bengals fan. First of all, you should be concerned. You should be very concerned because it's not like your situation is much better. You're right. You're right. But the fact that we're both in the same boat, it makes me feel better by the situation. But you complain like, oh, man, you got rats. Well, you got roaches. So what's the difference? Can't nobody get a good night's sleep? We all getting crawled on. Man, what the hell are you talking about, man? Hey, that's a good one. Ocho, Jerry Jones' middle finger gesture will cost him$250 ,000.

51:37Shannon Sharpe:The NFL is fining Jerry Jones a quarter of a million dollars for what Jerry claims was an accidental middle finger. Jerry will appeal the fine. This is how you know Jerry, because here's the thing, Ocho. We watched it at first. if you go back and watch it in its entirety Jerry does this at first he gives somebody a thumbs up then he turns and gives the other finger and pointed at the guy like it's you so my thing is Jerry you might need to go get checked out because if you think you're putting a thumb up and you're putting the other finger that's a finger over up two fingers over up that's a problem just go ahead and own it Jerry you did it I get it because at the end of the day And no matter how much money you make, you can make$10 or you can make$10 trillion.

52:25Shannon Sharpe:At the end of the day, you're still human. Yeah. And everybody has a breaking point. Everybody has something that can get them out of who they are at most times. Because the way we are, that's not on us, it's in us. Because everybody has a mechanism that somebody can push into the spring. oh yeah absolutely and and i don't know what that guy said i don't know if it was a guy if it was a woman i don't know what it was but what jerry did if you go back and watch the video in its entirety jerry does this he's like and then he flips somebody off and points down like no you that's for you the thumbs up was for them that was for you yeah yeah i mean how you gonna actually do a middle finger yeah and so that's like oh he should have just came out say i was trying to do the p sign but the index finger wouldn't come up you know what's funny when i think about it too as as jerry jones being as wealthy as he is being the owner of a yacht uh myself uh as wealthy as i am also being the owner of a mega yacht i think about him being fined 250 000 up uh that's docking.

53:36That's docking money. That's gas money. That's fuel. So that's really not really affecting Jerry anyway. But it costs to fill up

53:45Shannon Sharpe:the yacht, Ocho. That's it. Yeah, that's it. And when the NFL finds players, it finds players to get your attention. The fines to catch your attention and say, listen, you don't want to do that anymore because you don't want to have to pay this significant amount of money when you get fined. But you're fining Jerry$20 ,000, man. That ain't, man, come on now. But if you base it on what happened with Mr. Richardson, Jerry Richardson, the former Carolina Panthers owner, he got fined. Rest his soul. He got fined$250 ,000 for a similar gesture. David Tepper, a couple of years ago, he threw water at a fan.

54:17Shannon Sharpe:It cost him$300 ,000. So we know the fine was coming. We knew it was coming. And we knew it was going to be something around those lines. A quarter of a million,$300 ,000. You said it was going to be. You said it was going to be$250 ,000. Yeah, for sure. I said$500 ,000. I only said$500 ,000 because it was Jerry Jones. Yeah, nah, nah. Oh, he showed up with a POD, but I'm trying to figure out who he gonna go appeal to. He peeling to the commissioner Mm-hmm. Hey, nah good. Jerry get out of here 250 Yeah, matter of fact, you know, you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be I'm gonna be with a commission on Saturday and Sunday Oh, yeah, okay So I'm sitting with him in the box, but then I get to be field side for the Broncos game So any message you want me to give some your former Bronco players Ain't nobody there.

55:02They barely was born without without playing Okay, okay, okay. I mean, how old pass today? 24? Yeah, they're young. They're young. So how confident are you that the Jets are going to win their first game over in London against the Broncos?

55:16Shannon Sharpe:I'm not confident the Jets are going to win their first game against the Broncos. I'm not confident at all. Are you sure? No, I'm not sure. I mean, it's not a – I mean, it's sports. It's pro sports. Although people like to think it's scripted, it's not. So anything can happen in sports. We've seen it. But I feel confident in the Broncos. I do. Okay. Okay. I'm just making sure because, you know, once we go on nightcap that night, you won't be able to say foot or ball because the chances of the Ravens winning, whoever they're playing this week, it ain't likely. You might go 0 for 2. I'll be like, hey, Bronco country, stand up.

55:59That's what you're going to say? Yep. They might want to stand down. And I, let me tell you, let me tell you something. I really feel good. I really feel good about the Bengals playing the Packers. I understand how good they are defensively. But, you know, Joe Flacco with the Cleveland Browns, he did beat the Packers early in the season. You know that, right? Yeah. Okay, I'm just throwing that out there. That's just a little tidbit, Chad, I want you all to take with you. So don't be surprised if the Bengals happen to win against the Packers, who are probably heavily favored.

56:30Shannon Sharpe:Five, six sacks at least. They're going to be on that jogger like lions on a wheel to beast. All right. All right. I'm not telling you to go out there and gamble. I'm just saying I'm really wrong. All right. All right, Ochoa, we got our newest segment, Player Fave, presented by PrizePix. This is how it works. The nightcap staff has made a lineup for the picks. And whether we play their lineup or make some changes, choosing more or less, here it is. The lineup change. Saquon over 15 and a half receiving yards. Well, absolutely over. Okay, over, over. Ooh, just a good one, Ocho. A.J. Brown, 5.5 receptions.

57:20Shannon Sharpe:So at least six receptions. Ooh, that's tough, especially with the way they've been playing. The man had a game for two catches for seven yards. Obviously, they also had that team meeting. they haven't been able to run the ball well. Do they come out and show something different than what we're used to seeing? Where they playing at? They playing in Philly or they playing in New York? Let's see where that game is. You know what the game is Ocho? No, I'm not sure. Oh, it's in New York. You think? Woo!

57:54I don't know why I feel like they're going to make a concerted effort to get. I'm going to go more.

57:59Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to say more. Yeah. Jackson Dart over 35 rush yards. Absolutely. Have you seen him? What a boy dangerous with his legs. Now, I'm not sure which way you want to go, but I'm going over 35 because anytime he goes to that progression and he don't see nothing and he see daylight, he coming out the back door every time. Mm-mm-mm-mm. I done seen it too much too early already. All right. I'm going to go more. If it don't pan out, that's Ocho's fault. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. Remember, download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup.

58:53it's good to be right.

58:56Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, what many fans thought would be LeBron's long-awaited retirement announcement turned out to be just an ad, and it left fans furious. According to TMZ, Andy Garcia, who's a 29-year-old Laker fan, is suing the king in a small claims court for fraud, deception, misrepresentation, and any and all legal recovery. Garcia was apparently one of those people that thought LeBron was hanging up the sneakers and purchased two tickets March 31st, 2026, a game between the Lakers and the Cavs. Due to the significance of LeBron playing against his former team, Garcia tickets spiked to$856. But now the value of the tickets had plummeted after the announcement.

59:44I know.

59:45Shannon Sharpe:I shouldn't say I know. But y 'all thought that man was going to make that announcement. Lord have mercy Anybody would I didn't know what he was going to do Ocho But I knew he wasn't going to make no retirement announcement When we talked about it on the show And we said there was a decision coming up What's the first thing I said There's something coming out I just don't know what it is Either it was something with Nike I didn't even know it was going to be alcohol I thought it was going to be a shoe I thought it was going to be something to do with clothing I thought it was going to be something having to do with a new brand That he's attached to That's all.

1:00:20I could have told you that. I just didn't know exactly what it was. I knew Dan Willoughby had been on goddamn retirement, but he's not leaving the NBA until Bryce gets there. You think so? Yeah, hell yeah.

1:00:36Shannon Sharpe:I don't know, Ocho. I don't think he's retiring after this year. I don't. I don't. I mean, it's hard to walk away when you're playing at such a high level. you know, he strikes me as a guy that's going to play until the wheels fall off. And the wheels are not falling, hasn't fallen off yet. Not even close. Right. Not even close. Year 21, year 22, you're averaging 24, what is that, 24, 8, what? Yeah. 24, 7.8, 8.2. So he's almost 25 points a game. Shooting 51 % from the floor, shot 38 % from the three. He ain't going nowhere, man. Higher for what? Still putting up numbers like that. I don't care if you're 42, 55, 57, 60.

1:01:23If you still put up numbers like that and being productive and an important part of the offense and still being as efficient as he is this long into his career, who's thinking about retirement? You know when the caller quits. Your body tells you when to stop. Your numbers, the decline, it tells you when to stop. Father Time tells you when to stop. Father Time hasn't caught up to him yet. Can he do some of the things he did in his younger days? No, obviously not. But you evolve. You evolve in other areas. We don't have to. He's shooting the three ball.

1:01:56Shannon Sharpe:No, can he still get to the basket? Yes. Can he still finish with the best of them? Yes. But it's harder for him to do it consistently. So now he's gotten the three ball. He said he worked on catching shoot because he's going to be playing off the ball even more this year with Luka and Austin Reeves on the court. So he needs to be catching. The one thing you can say about him is that when he decides that, you know what, there's a – I want to work on an element of my game, he wanted to get better at posting up. He goes down to Houston, work with Akeem Olajuwon, can play with his back to the basket.

1:02:30Shannon Sharpe:He got that fadeaway. He's always been able to put his head down and get to the basket, finish at the rim. Then, hey, he's like, you know what, I need to get this three ball because I see where this is headed. This thing is headed that you're going to need to be able to shoot the three and you see not everybody can shoot the three. You got to stretch four. You got to stretch five. You got to stretch this. Everybody can shoot the three. And he knew in order for him to have longevity, guess what? I need to be able to shoot the three too. It's so funny too, Uncle. When you think about it, you look at players in the NBA and now that I've become a little bit more knowledgeable of it, you have players like LeBron and it's a testament to his greatness.

1:03:08As he got older, he's evolved and gotten better in other areas of his game. Yeah. so he can play as long as he's played. You know? He's one of the few. Now he's made himself into an efficient three-level scorer, not just at the mid-range, not just in the paint, being able to play with his back to the basket or being able to drive at will when he chooses and wants to, but now being able to be efficient from three points, shooting 31 % from three. Like, come on, man. Yeah.

1:03:39Shannon Sharpe:But I'm sorry, bro, that you thought that man was going to make that announcement. Hey, the judge's going to toss that out, ain't he? I don't know what the judge's going to do. But I tell you what, I think the thing is, he's going to have control over it. It's going to be a situation where he can control it. It's going to be released on his platform. Right. That's what it's going to be. LeBron's going to control it. LeBron's going to control it. Yeah, absolutely. Just like he did with the decision, and I don't have a problem with that. So I don't want your man killing you, Neff. no LeBron's just going to control what's when he does it how he does it where he does it and I'm fine with that I think he's he's earned he's earned the right to like make the announcement when he wants to how he wants to where he wants to and you know what he wants to say and everybody's you know some will be happy some will be disappointed I myself personally would be disappointed because I think he's playing at a high level I like guys you know go out when you want to.

1:04:39Shannon Sharpe:That's his legacy. Man, he destroyed his legacy. It's his. He built it. And the funny thing about it, not only go out when you want to, but go out the right way. Go out the right way. Because if you play, how many games NBA season? 82. All 82 games need to be every time. The same way Kobe went out every game. It need to be a standing ovation at every game. Understanding it's his last time being on that court. Wherever he plays. But see, the difference is with Kobe Kobe, the injuries had started to rob Kobe. He tore his Achilles late. He tore his labrum late. He started to have the injuries that started to mount up.

1:05:17Shannon Sharpe:Now, LeBron is dealing with a nerve irritation in his glute, and so we don't know. I'm always leery of guys limping into the season because you limp out of the season. But LeBron did not have the injuries that Kobe had. LeBron is still regarded as a top-ten player. Kobe was not a top 10 player at the tail end of his career he just wasn't and that's okay that doesn't take away from what he was able to accomplish because he was phenomenal and we know that but Kobe was not a top 10 player LeBron was still a top 10 player he did have a historic game even though he had 60 it took him 50 shots but he had 60 points and it was a thing of beauty to watch I watched it from start to finish and if somebody would have told me that first of all to shoot 50 times and then have 60 points because that's a lot of shots.

1:06:10Shannon Sharpe:Ain't a whole lot of people have ever shot the ball 50 times. Maybe Kobe wilt is probably the only one that I can think of off the top of my head that's ever shot that many times. But he was phenomenal. But LeBron is going to be a little bit more buttoned up. You'll probably just hear something. It's starting leaking out of LeBron. there's rumblings that LeBron this might be it for LeBron. He'll have a little he's scheduled a news conference for something. Now, he's either going to retire news conference or he's going to go somewhere else. The question is does he want to go somewhere else and play another year or two?

1:06:51Shannon Sharpe:Whatever the case may be. Maybe the Lakers want him back because he's still a draw. I can tell you where he's going to go. How many years does Bryce have before he can leave too, right? No, he can come out of college. You can come out of basketball. Well, you can come out at the one. Yeah. I'm telling you. I'm telling you what I know. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. I want to be able to play with both of my sons in the NBA, and it's going to happen. Watch. All right. We're going to get you guys out of here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

1:07:30Damn, I got to take this long-ass flight, man. Shit.

1:07:34Shannon Sharpe:Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. Boy, that was the longest. Boy, I don't know what y 'all got going on tonight, graphic. But anyway, Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam, is pride more dangerous when you win or when you're losing? Love y 'all. Losing reveals the character because everybody, look, AJ is a very unique individual. I've never seen anybody complain like this when you're winning. I've never seen it. normally if you lose and people understand that. It's kind of like with, like I give you a proper example, like T.O. Ojo, you know, you're close to T.O., but you saw when T.O. was fighting along with it winning.

1:08:12Shannon Sharpe:It was like when you started to lose and he had Randy on the other side or he had another receiver and they're going off. You're like, my man, give me a chance to do that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Normally, normally, normally, not all, there's no such thing as all or every. winning will mask winning is a great deodorant because there are a lot of issues because people used to be afraid to cause commotion when you're winning yeah absolutely boy we winning go sit down somewhere AJ said well we winning but we ain't winning how I think we should win we should be winning by 15-20 points if y 'all give me the ball we could be winning by that listen it's so funny it reminds me you know what I'm going to say that go ahead I'm going to say that say that for a later date VPN who's better Jake Browning or Easton Stick

1:09:15Shannon Sharpe:which is heavier a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers that's a good one Sheldon Pope nightcap versus returning the cash money versus no limit who you have taking this versus. That's going to be a good versus. Especially if the young folks probably ain't going to understand none of it. But they're going to bring back some great memories. Boy, that's going to bring back some great memories. Cash Muddy had Juvie, BG, Turk, Wayne. But Cash Muddy had them No Limit soldiers. Yeah, No Limit had a nice run too now. Yeah, for sure. With them tanks. yeah yeah see murder Silk the Shocker Mia X I mean the list goes on hey did uh is uh is uh what's this guy's name Ocho uh uh Danger Mystical is he out I think Mystical still he's still behind still behind that wall No, he had got out.

1:10:25Shannon Sharpe:He went back. Yeah. Yeah, he went back, Ocho. So we ain't going to have all of them. Yeah. Listen, they just like the Ravens. Man, stop hating. They got it full of strength. I'm just saying. Triple X, I'm saying to the Ocho line, what he really wants to say with the number four pick in the 2026 draft, The Cincinnati Bengals select Ocho D. Joseph until he pay on. Pay, Ocho. Talk that ish podcast. Ocho got Blank Man shirt on. They still talk about my shirt? Yeah. I mean. Go ahead, Ocho. I'm confused. Why everybody make it? It's a flannel. I'm in New York. It's like cold. It's like, you know, 56 degrees.

1:11:18I got it from H &M. It went over$20. I mean, come on, y 'all. Talk about it look like a youth pastor. Talk about it look like an SA.

1:11:29Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I can see you in a six-po. Yeah, hey, hey. Yeah, I feel dead homies. Will say, oh, is it possible that A.J. Brown is trying to seize the moment knowing that other receivers aren't at full strength? I mean, Devontae is fine. I mean, who is it? Dobson? I'm trying to figure out who else. Johan Dobson is there. Devontae. Devontae came out and said the same thing. He came out and said the same thing. His same frustrations. He said the same thing last week. So, I mean, a lot of people are like, oh, look at Devontae Smith being a professional. No. He came out and said the same thing, voicing his frustrates, because he's a little irritated, too, about the lack of fun.

1:12:15So, yeah, I mean, they don't pay.

1:12:17Shannon Sharpe:They don't pay so to have like 600 yards. God damn.

1:12:27Woo.

1:12:30Shannon Sharpe:TS car washing detail service. Bingo should have got Russ. I think Russ price tag is a little bit much for them. Yep. Black. Russ like$14 million. Yep. One year, 14. And you would have to pick that up. And so that's more than the Bengals ain't trying to stomach that. A said, Ocho looks like an underpaid ranch hand at Hidden Valley Farms.

1:12:58Shannon Sharpe:Brad Bird said, the Bungles acting like trading for Javis would bankrupt their franchise. Now when Grandpa Flacco gets fossilized behind that old line, who will be hosting the wake, Browns or Bengals? Y 'all keep laughing. Keep them jokes flying. We'll see what happens next Sunday when we get on nightcap and we come over with that victory. James Wilson said, hey, Unc, I'm from Sparta. You go to Hancock or you went to Green County? Where you go, bro? Much love and respect. I heard you mention Hancock on Undisputed one time. Have you ever had family in Sparta? And can you guys wish my wife a happy birthday?

1:13:35Shannon Sharpe:10-9. Yes, James, we absolutely can wish your wife happy birthday. Happy birthday. Hopefully you guys are going to do something special. You're going to take out for a great dinner. I don't know what's in Sparta. I've never been to Sparta, but I know where Sparta is. Hopefully you go somewhere special. You have a nice candlelit dinner, and you look her in the eyes, and you tell her just how proud you are to be her husband. That's what I would do, James. That's what I would do. See, I'm getting good, Ocho. Ocho, I got a feeling, Ocho. I think in the next two years, I'm going to get married, Ocho.

1:14:04There we go. Now we talking, huh? Listen, now we getting juicy. it. This is the type of stuff I want to hear. This is the fact.

1:14:13Shannon Sharpe:Man, I don't need no talk from you, Jordan. Huh? Listen. Jordan over here talking. This is what I'm talking about. See, I think the fact that I have found a good, solid foundation and I'm building on some good, I think you pick it up what I'm putting down and you're willing to follow suit. Yep. See, I like where you're going. Now, what we can do, Unc, is I can wait two more years because I was getting ready to do it in the offseason. i can wait two more you have a double one we have a dual wedding good right because right now oh you might have to fund the whole thing i'm just saying i'm just i'm gonna keep it i'm gonna keep it now while with you now that's it that i'm just saying i'm just saying now you know little boy down in the look right now down in the look listen i i think listen in two years and listen to not even two probably another one we gonna be all right we're gonna be good you're gonna do the right thing you know yeah yeah we we gonna be right because listen when the product is too good it sells itself even with the mishaps even mistake it just it's too good you have no choice the cream always rises to the top but i like that i like that dude wedding i like that thought i love that playing close D said Chad dressed like CJ from Grand Theft Auto Casey Taylor said Unk, Ocho if they made the longest yard three with Adam Sandler if you were asked to join a decent sized role would you?

1:15:50Shannon Sharpe:Are there any specific WWE NFL stars you would want in the movie as well?

1:15:58Shannon Sharpe:I need to play a detective I can't do nothing physical right now I could, but I think a detective. I need to, you know what? I want to play a role. I need to be a detective. I need to be a minister or something like that, Ocho. Okay, I like that. I like that. I like the minister. Because they can write you a good script, man. Yeah, man. And you know, I can bring that word to them now. Yeah, yeah. I'll bring that word now. Oh, yeah. You got that handkerchief in your hand? Kill him.

1:16:35Shannon Sharpe:Malachi will a man rob God he answers himself because he already know have you robbed me and my tithe and an offering bring your tithe and offering to the storehouse and let the Lord open up the windows of heaven and pour out a blessing that you will not be able to receive fully come see me come on now when I pass the plate around Don't put no change in it. God don't like noise. He's a quiet God. I just said, he's a quiet God. He don't like noise. He don't like noise. You'll see it. You'll see it. Hey, what kind of God he is or what God? He's a quiet God. He don't like noise. Don't put no change in the pain.

1:17:22Hey, that's a good one.

1:17:25Shannon Sharpe:Man, they're going to be killing me in the chat, man. You playing with God. Man, come on, man. These jokes, they writing themselves. I told you I'm working on my stand-up. Quake say you gonna let me get two minutes from one of the shows. Good. Samuel LeGrand said, oh, remember like it was yesterday, got him cussing up a storm. Oh.

1:17:48Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I got cussing. Oh, I got cussing. Ocho. Fens, New Jersey, El Chapo Ocho. I like that. I like that. El Chapo is shorty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not short. so i mean i think he is like five four you know you know i got a picture with chopper huh you do yeah yeah i don't know i don't get in trouble for showing that do i no i mean i mean a lot of people got pictures with uh what you call them uh uh with people that you know i mean people have people do al capone or and so forth so yeah uh philly talk with pa Y 'all missing the point. Offensive coordinator Kevin Petulo has been terrible. Eagles have had most success with Hurts' cause his own plays.

1:18:39Shannon Sharpe:Also, Carl Stanton. He doesn't call his own plays. Why do people keep saying that? I guess, I don't know. Don't start me to lie, Ocho. Don't start me to lie. Look, you're right. I mean, but we saw this. when Gannon and Steichen, when they left, the offense took a dip. The defense took a dip. You saw last year, Fangio is still there, but Kellen Moore got the head job at New Orleans. Kellen Moore is a damn good offensive coordinator. He's a very good offensive coordinator. He's a very good play caller. I mean, I'm sure, you know, I'm surprised he didn't get the job. Well, Mike McCarthy undercut him and got him up out of balance.

1:19:26Shannon Sharpe:Talking about he was calling all those pass plays, and then come to find out he called more pass plays than Kellen Moore did, but that's neither here nor there. Fins, New Jersey, said, Chad, Chad, the lumberjack. Yeah, call me Paul Bunyan. All I need now is a big blue ox. Wolf had facts, said, Ocho, I tried to fly spirit. A lady tried to fight me. Her service dog tried to bite me, and there was three screaming babies. I don't know how you do it. I saw the lady today. Did y 'all see that video where the lady today was trying to hold up the plane because her daughter was in the back and she wanted the people to move out the way so her daughter could walk up to the front?

1:20:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, she in the middle of the plane, Ocho. What airline was that? Spirit. Okay. Saucy D, just want to say shout out to Aja Wilson and my Aces. We one win away from another WNBA chip. Did the Aces win tonight? Yeah, they won. They up 3-0. They came back and won? yeah they won they have 3-0 you lying they was down 11 yeah I promise you they won damn I ain't gonna lie to you okay lose this next game and then come back so I can see y 'all play in Las Vegas oh stay at home man man and I know who did it I know well I know Asia Asia probably had like 40 but I know my girl what my girl Chelsea do

1:20:54Shannon Sharpe:What my girl Chelsea Gray do?

1:20:59Shannon Sharpe:The Aces came back and won. Aces hit a buzzer. Aces hit a buzzer.

1:21:08Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they were winning. So 26-49. Oh, they had a big lead. Aces had 34. Jackie Young. Okay, Chelsea had 11. Jewel Lloyd. That's what I put on y 'all when I was coaching at the Ruffles game. Yeah. Oh, she had 16. Yeah, Jewel can play. She can ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to get this one. We're going to get this one. I think this – I know we're going to end. We're about to end. But I think if Asia Wilson wins this championship and she's finals MVP, which I believe she will, it's going to be tough because Jackie Young has been sensational. Yeah. Because she dropped 21 in a quarter, but with four MVPs, three defensive players a year, three championships, two finals MVPs.

1:22:02Shannon Sharpe:She's been a blocks leader. She's been a rebuff. I don't know what you – look, I go back to the women's game. I remember they had the first women's tournament with La Tech won. And Kim Mulkey was a starting point guard. Yeah, I remember that. Beat Chaney. remember when they beat Cheney State yeah I'll give them all that AJ Wilson win this championship leave it alone you think so? go argue with the wall you're not arguing with me she wins this championship she's the greatest woman player ever

1:22:38I don't know

1:22:39Shannon Sharpe:I mean I don't know what else to say theoretically she should have five because I thought look and Stewie I love Stewie too Stewie is phenomenal but But Asia, Lord, have mercy.

1:22:56Shannon Sharpe:She's special. I mean, she gets – and she does it on both ends, Ocho. Yeah, on defense too. She does it on both ends. Like I said, I mean, she's just as good offensively as she is defensively. She can steal the ball. She can block shots. She can rebound. Obviously, she can put the ball in the basket. Led the league in scoring back-to-back years. Had the highest scoring average in WNBA history. scored the most points in a single season in nba history wmba history and i look i look i i get my uh but you got to realize you have my play i think seven eight years you got to realize she ain't done y 'all do realize this woman could have she could win another two three mvps she could win another two three championships i'm going to get to it now i'm going to get to it now official church Ocho look like a substitute gym teacher

1:23:54Shannon Sharpe:Emma Greg say Shane Ocho can y 'all shout my daughter out Lillian she can't sleep and it's a school night so we both watching yes we can Lillian how you doing Emma my bad Emma get out my ear Thank you for staying up watching I don't know if you're on the west coast or the east coast But if it's on the east coast you up really really late I guess you ain't going to school tomorrow huh Emmy Like nah I'm good I'm going to stay up with dad Boy Greg you're going to get in trouble man Mom going to find out that Emmy was up Hey Ain't going to be here to get up in the morning You know what Ocho and I ain't had nothing to do with that I told her to put that baby to bed I got to throw that blame.

1:24:47Shannon Sharpe:I got to get that heat up off me. Thank you guys for watching another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite on Shannon Sharp. And there's my partner and co-host Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, the former Pro Bowler, All Pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you, especially on Mondays and Wednesdays and Sundays and Thursdays and Saturday. You show up for us. You show out for us.

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1:27:03Shannon Sharpe:I'm Unc Heath Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night. Peace, Jay. Peace,

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