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13:48Shannon Sharpe:I can't go to jail

13:50Chad Johnson:hey you know those going to jail they not even tripping they not they not even tripping damn as long as they out before the first game bro listen listen listen they'll be out the morning they probably get

14:02Shannon Sharpe:they'll probably get a

14:04Chad Johnson:hey listen we talk about if the Knicks you know make it to the finals we kinda we kinda expected this imagine them winning bro I can't even imagine that part. They win.

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18:05Shannon Sharpe:Do y 'all understand where Jalen Brunson will be? Do y 'all understand the mythical that, I mean, you put it with Jared Jeter. You put it with the great legends. I mean, think about, like you said, Joe Ocho. They haven't won a championship in 50 plus years. And Earl of Pearl and Clyde and Willis Reed, those guys are still, and half the people weren't alive when they won. And they're still revered. Can you imagine Jalen Brunson winning a championship? Oh, my.

18:46Chad Johnson:They're going to clown. They're going to clown. They're going to clown, man. that's going to be crazy

18:57Shannon Sharpe:I mean it's something about winning a title for a town they never forget you they never forget you I mean kids I mean some of these kids when I go back to Denver I go back to Boston oh Joe that kid's 20 you weren't even born when I won somebody told you I was on the team I just went to a function Sunday was a week ago man thank you for breaking that championship man you don't mean blah blah blah blah man hey if you ever in Baltimore here take my car take that bro it's it's an unbelievable it's an unbelievable feeling what a championship does for a city and people love you now And that's why a lot of guys still live in the city in which they play.

19:52Shannon Sharpe:Right. And I totally understand me being the recluse that I am, that like privacy, like a little anonymity, you know, hey, I loaded up the thing like the Beverly Hills, but I headed out of town. But, man, there ain't no greater feeling than to be beloved by the city what you played. Now, everybody doesn't win a championship, and you still can be beloved because all they want to know is that you played hard. That's it. That's it! Yep. You played hard. Man, them Knicks, about them jokes, Knicks going crazy, man. It's going to be ugly. That's going to be, hey, that's crazy. Boy, the Knicks parted like in 1999.

20:49Shannon Sharpe:Well, hey, Joe, hey, how, Joe, I mean, hell, you was, how old were you in 99, Joe?

20:54Chad Johnson:Man, I was a senior in high school. Yeah, I graduated in 99.

20:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, see, you all know nothing about that. See, I was partying like I was 1999.

21:03Chad Johnson:You was going hard to pay the 99, huh?

21:05Shannon Sharpe:I was dreaming when I wrote this, Prince said I was dreaming when I wrote this. Forgive me if I'm going straight. Hey, the way they say the world was going in. That's what they say in those shows. Yeah. So, in the famous words of the Joker, go, go, go with a smile.

21:26Shannon Sharpe:Go with a smile. It ain't nothing happening. I was scared. People spent all that money. Oh, we ain't never had those zeros on the calendar, and they don't know that the computer's going to malfunction. They spent all that money, and guess what? The sun went down, and we got up, and our black ass went to work.

21:45Chad Johnson:Yep.

21:46Shannon Sharpe:Doesn't happen Hey The damn thing happened But they had a fool Check this out We found out the dum-dum that left Wemby off the first team all NBA Here's Justin Termine's explanation Bear with us chat, it's two minutes long But we needed you to hear His full explanation First let me say this I voted for Wemby I'm a third for MVP and I actually think he's a better player than SGA. I think he is the best player in the world right now, but I thought Jokic had a better regular season at the same position. But I absolutely love this kid. I think he has the chance to be the best player of all time, to be the best defensive player of all time.

22:33I love his attitude. I love his game. I love how he shows emotion. I love how he handles the media. I love how he shows disdain for his opponents. I'm a massive fan of Victor Wembanyama. But this year he was the second best center and I vote by position. Now here is the explanation as to why I vote by position. In my opinion, it is unfair historically to those that came before us, who I have great respect for, that those guys at center were not allowed to be on the first team at the same time. Right? So it's unfair to Wilton Russell and all the other guys who couldn't make first team at the same time just because somebody played the same position as him.

23:16They just changed the rule recently because, you know, basically, Embiid had been the second best player for a couple of years, but he had to keep making second teams because Jokic was better. But in my opinion, that's not fair to the centers of the past who got screwed. So how's that fair to Wilton Russell that they didn't make first team All-NBA every single year of their career? they had to basically go back and forth trading it off because they both played the center position. Whereas nowadays, they would just both make first team like everybody else just voted for Jokic and Wembenyama, first team All-NBA.

23:49So to me, it's unfair that guys today should get to make it because the rules have changed. So I vote by position in order to protect the older generation and the history of the sport. If you don't think that's logical, I don't know what to tell you.

24:08Chad Johnson:How is he protecting the history of the sport?

24:14Shannon Sharpe:Because in the years past, you voted a point guard, a shooting guard, a small forward, a power forward, and a center. They changed the rule. They said you vote for the five best players. Ocho, Joe, what did they do now, Joe? How did they pick the All-Star game? They picked the best players. It ain't no, we got to take a center. We got to take a power forward. We got to, under his logic, the speed limit, they changed the speed limit. The speed limit used to be 55. So under his logic, how is it fair that somebody got a ticket at going 60 and now the speed limit is 70, but they get the skate? That's why they changed the rules.

25:00Shannon Sharpe:because they said, look, there are better players. They said if we got five players that are better, we're going to have five centers. If we got five point guards, we got five twos, whatever happens. It is so illogical for him to say, I'm trying to protect the sanctity of the game. No, you're not. All you did was ruin a moment for a kid.

25:23Chad Johnson:Yeah. This man is out of his damn mind. Hey, trying to overthink, trying to analyze. Yeah, he got a point. Unfortunately, the point is on top of his head. Right. Hey, Uncle Joe, when trying to be too intelligent, trying to be too smart goes wrong. Just doing too damn much.

25:46Shannon Sharpe:Yes. The objective is, is that that's how, think about it. That's how you got to look at all. What did they have? So under his lot, all the other guys, You got two bigs and three point guards.

26:05Shannon Sharpe:That is why they changed it, Joe. They got tired of saying, you know what? We're leaving some good players off. There's some players making it that's not as good as the guy that's on the second team. Right. In order to make it fair because we want the best guys. They said, we're going to change the rules. This wasn't just this year. I can see if they say, this has been the way it's been done. for like the last two or three years, if I'm not mistaken. Chad, correct me if I'm wrong. It's the same thing when somebody left Griffey Jr. off of his ballot and they ended up losing their right to vote.

26:43Shannon Sharpe:Griffey should have been the first unanimous player into the hall. But it was Mariano Ver... And I love... Hey, Moe... Hey, earned it. He was the greatest closer. Big-time player. Come up in big moments. But see, this is what I'm talking about, Joe. And this is why guys get upset at voters. because they do too much. The same guy that took that one vote away from Shaq, that same guy that took that one vote away from LeBron, this is the same guy. Let me tell you. Man, ain't nobody talking about no damn Chamberlain and Russell. Do you understand how long Chamberlain and Russell, that was in the 60s.

27:18Shannon Sharpe:You weren't alive. Why are you trying to hold on to something that you don't know anything about? Wait, this is the same person that No, he's saying oh back in the 60s you had to vote one So Russell and Chamberlain kept knocking each other off the ballot So it wouldn't be fair for those guys not to make it one year And the other had one guy was first team the other guy was second team Right and when we get an opportunity to make it

27:48Chad Johnson:No, I was asking you the individuals that messed it up for Shaq the individual that messed it up for LeBron is this the same person no no oh okay okay okay no it's cray i mean and he thought he gave a valid

28:03Shannon Sharpe:explanation rules change when the rules change i grew up you know joe when i grew up you know what the drinking age was 18 18 years old you can go in the store and buy liquor damn you can go buy cigarettes

28:26Shannon Sharpe:as a matter of fact you went to the right place you'd be fault-teated by everything but that's not the here nor there but I'm saying legally at 18 right they changed the rules these mothers against drunk drivers I mean kids were getting drunk and we know and they changed it since 21 now yeah this man talk about a rule that they changed two to three years ago, and he's going back to the 60s.

28:59Chad Johnson:Analytics took over, bro.

29:04Chad Johnson:They took over.

29:10I don't get it.

29:13Shannon Sharpe:I don't get it, Joe. And the thing was, he knew the rules. He said they changed the rules. Joe, it's not like he said, well, you know what? I voted. I didn't know that I could vote when I could vote two centers or three centers or whatever the case may be. He knew the rules. Yeah.

29:33Chad Johnson:It's hard for me to believe he didn't know.

29:37Shannon Sharpe:He knew. He didn't think it was fair. Fair is where you ride the Ferris wheel and get cotton candy. They judge pigs at a fair. They judge goats at a fair. There's a bearded lady in the tent at the fair. Give a person what he or she deserves, not what is fair.

30:00Damn. So because of him, Wimby won unanimous.

30:08Shannon Sharpe:Wimby got$4.99. You needed$500. 100.

30:13Shannon Sharpe:So Shea and Jokic were unanimous. And basically, you can't put

30:21Chad Johnson:two centers on the...

30:23Shannon Sharpe:You can! You can put five centers on there. You can put five point guards. You can put five threes. He's going off his scale, meaning like he's saying... He's going off of history, where before, it's kind of like the All-Star game, Joe. Remember the All-Star game, you had to take a point, a two, a three, a four, and a five. Now, you just take whatever.

30:49Chad Johnson:It's different now, bro. Oh my goodness.

30:56Shannon Sharpe:I love how people are talking about it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal to you because you weren't the one that was not something was taken away from. See, I love how people and things don't impact. You know what it's like, Joe? When somebody have surgery, oh, he had a minor surgery. You know this minor surgery is always on someone else, but you have major surgery. You got an ingrown toenail. Oh, man, I had surgery. Man, you had an ingrown toenail.

31:26Shannon Sharpe:No, man, he had earned that. He didn't deserve it. He earned it based on his play. And then you see what he did. Oh, Joe, did you see what he tried to do? I voted him for third in the MVP I voted him to visit player of the year All trying to justify See I ain't got no axe to grind with him Nobody asks you all that All they ask you is Why did you leave him off Knowing the rules were what they were

31:52Chad Johnson:Trying to be too smart

31:59Chad Johnson:The only person I want to be the oddball

32:05I mean think about it

32:08Shannon Sharpe:in the history of the game Steph Curry is the only unanimous MVP not Wilt not Russell, not Bird not Magic, not Kareem not Shaq, not LeBron not Kobe not Jokic Steph Curry you don't think that matters? it doesn't matter absolutely for the longest time we've only I mean Brady was the first unanimous MVP then Lamar and Lamar liked to run it again he might have he might have been win it unanimously I think he might have been a vote short he might have been a two time unanimous MVP but he and Brady are the only two that's ever won a unanimous MVP right this is crazy man guys you You're overthinking it.

33:01Shannon Sharpe:It's not that complicated. They say you put the five bests on there. That's what they say. That's the rules. They changed the rules.

33:09Chad Johnson:They're going to find a way to complicate it. Yeah, yeah.

33:17Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. All I can say is Wimby, just come back in there. You try to improve and try to get in there. Say he come back what? I say just try to come back and improve and leave no doubt. you. Hell, he ain't leading no doubt this year. He didn't, but I'm just saying, ain't nothing we can do about it now, Ocho. It's kind of like Asia Wilson. Asia felt she should have won the MVP the year Stewie got it. I said, I got something for y 'all ass. Guess what? Back-to-back MVPs. Take this one. The only player to ever score a thousand points in the season in WNBA history. He said, you know what? I'm going to back it up again.

33:52Shannon Sharpe:Lead the league in scoring. As a matter of fact, and y 'all robbed me one time for the defensive player of the year, I'm going to come get it again. hmm and i'm gonna get the animal hey i'm taking sweet steaks i'm getting it all i'm winning a championship i'm getting the mvp i'm getting defensive player of the year and i'm getting final mvp now run tail that i like it come on now i'm rooting for women now we'll be gonna be my guy and I'm a Yokoch and Luka fan new kid in town but now I got a root for Wim because I want him to get unanimous

34:32Chad Johnson:it's a new kid on the block bro y 'all gonna have to get with the program

34:39Shannon Sharpe:yes but guys I understand the history of all sports I really do but if they change the rule Joe they change the rules in baseball a guy can challenge a strike now You couldn't challenge a strike before, so now what? Because the guy challenged a strike and he gets it, you're going to look at him differently? They used to didn't have replays. I think as the game evolves and they implement changes to the game, you have to evolve with it. You can't stay in that antiquated way. Absolutely. It's the same thing, Joe, with a woman. You remember how your mom and your dad and how they did things. That's not the way it is now.

35:29Shannon Sharpe:No. You can't think that way. You're going to sit yourself up for fear. Every time. And disappointment. If somebody is willing to do things that your mom or your grandma or your great grandma or your auntie did for their husband or their son. Right. Bless your heart. You're lucky. But if they don't, that's his no thing. Time changes. They evolve. And you have to evolve with them.

36:00Chad Johnson:Absolutely.

36:02Shannon Sharpe:Damn, Wimby. I feel bad for Wimby. The Lakers reportedly have a new assistant general manager who is literally, I mean, he's literally a rocket scientist. As head of the important offseason, As they head into the important offseason, Lakers hired New Orleans Pelicans vice president of strategy and operations Rohan Ramadas to be the assistant GM. Ramadas will be under team president Rob Palenka in his new role. Ahead of the 2024 season, the Pelicans announced they elevated Ramadas to Senior Director of Analytics and Innovation after he spent seven years as an analytics consultant for the team. He was also the draft analyst for the Miami Heat during the 2016-17 campaign.

36:49Shannon Sharpe:According to the Pelicans announcement, spent the past 12 years supporting Aerospace Corporation's U.S. Space Force and NASA as a rocket guidance, navigation, control, and missions design engineer. One Pelicans, the source told Dave McMenamin and Shams, he's literally a rocket scientist. And he used AI and coding models to help the New Orleans front office. Helping what? Are they trying to put somebody in space? What does that have to do with winning and playing basketball? Well, hey, maybe they're trying to go up in space. Joe, what is this?

37:36Chad Johnson:Man, I have no clue. Joe, that's your fault. How does my fault, Joe? I don't know, Joe. I need somebody to blame, so I'm going to just blame you. We trying to win games over here. They bringing in someone. I'm saying, he must have done a good job for New Orleans bringing in players or something. Why did the Lakers hire him? Do you see the players in the game? That's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking. I'm like, damn, what did he do for me to be like, I'm happy for the Lakers? I don't know.

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41:51Shannon Sharpe:I guess he's smart. I mean, if they tried to put people in space, that's the guy I would call.

42:02Shannon Sharpe:But as a basketball, what do your eyes tell you?

42:05Chad Johnson:That's what I'm saying, bro.

42:07Shannon Sharpe:I mean, what do your eyes tell you? How does he fit what you're trying to do?

42:14Chad Johnson:Hey, normally, when they make changes like this, you know, they bring in assistant GM help and all this. I mean, it's going to be some furniture moving. It's going to be, yeah.

42:29Shannon Sharpe:And they base everything on analytics. Look here. I'm going to say, hey, Sam Preston, I'm stealing somebody from, you know what? I'm stealing somebody from OKC. I'm stealing somebody from San Antonio because they seem to get it right. Yeah.

42:44Chad Johnson:Hey, at least copy what they do. Copy what they do. What is? Hell. hey Joe you know you look at the NFL right every owner should be trying to copy Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie

42:58Shannon Sharpe:in the way they operate everybody but when they go get coaches where they go get them coaches from the Kyle Shanahan tree the Mike Shanahan tree from Sean McVay they get them from Matt LaFleur they get them from Andy Reid why because those guys have success Hold on. When were the Pelicans last in the playoffs? When were the Pelicans last in the finals? That's what I'm saying. I'm confused.

43:27Chad Johnson:That must have been his partner or something, man.

43:34Shannon Sharpe:I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no look. Look. I think the thing is sometimes when you run a business, you own a business, and you get people that you're comfortable with. People lying out, Ocho Joe, the way people lie on their resume now with this damn AI?

43:52Chad Johnson:They chat GPT?

43:55Shannon Sharpe:Oh my goodness. Ocho. You know they're going to do a background check. It's hard to lie on a resume. No, it's not because that's your resume. How they're going to do a background check? You might have graduated, but you ain't do none of the stuff that you said.

44:08Chad Johnson:Yeah.

44:09Shannon Sharpe:But you know, Uncle, you know you got to put it down to reference, huh?

44:15Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. Yes, sir? Let me ask you a question. If somebody call and say, man, Ocho, Ocho said he was with clubs, he was with NICAL for 10 years. Man, Ocho was great. Man, you might've been a jerk. Man, Ocho was unbelievable. Always on time, he ain't never late. The one thing Ocho gonna do, he gonna work hard now. He gonna give you everything that he got, he entertaining, see? Yeah, yeah, yeah. See how I did that though? Hey, when I leave, I ain't gonna say nothing bad about you. You don't say nothing bad about me, we gonna keep moving.

44:45Chad Johnson:Right.

44:50Shannon Sharpe:I'm just trying to figure out what does a rocket scientist have to do with basketball?

44:56Chad Johnson:Man, listen, when you look over there on them benches, it's more assistant coaches and damn analytical people sitting over there than it's ever been, ever, in the history of the game. It's more coaches damn near them players now. I'm talking about look at the first two rows by the head coach right behind him? Yes. Bro, it's so many coaches nowadays.

45:20Shannon Sharpe:You're right, Joe. You're right. You're absolutely right.

45:30Shannon Sharpe:Well, look, I don't know what he has to do, but the Lakers have done a terrible job of drafting players, so hell, I guess you try anything. Think about it. The best player they've gotten in the last probably decade is an undrafted free agent. Austin Reeves. Yeah. Let that sink in for just a second. Just for a second, chat. Let that sink in. The best player that they didn't draft him is Austin Reeves. No question.

46:07Shannon Sharpe:No question. Oh, my goodness. Damn, Lakers. Well, you know what? You got to think positive, think positive.

46:21Shannon Sharpe:I'm thinking about where LeBron going.

46:23Chad Johnson:He may just end up staying in LA, bro.

46:27Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Lord have mercy. Cause I'm gonna have to move my Laker jerseys around.

46:33Chad Johnson:You know, he ain't gonna, they can't be in the front. He ain't gonna tell nobody when he gonna bust no moves. You just gonna have to see him busting it.

46:40Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you gonna find out like everybody going to find at the same time. Yeah. That's one thing.

46:54Shannon Sharpe:Oh, my goodness. Lakers, what have you done? James Harden was asked after the game on if the Knicks are better than the Cavs. It was 4-0. But I don't think we had a chance as far as our best shot. genuinely I do feel like we are a better team series wise we didn't show it wait

47:19Chad Johnson:he said wait they lost for they got swept but they still feel like they were the better team series wise even though you lost said series he sound like his damn head coach without the analytical oh man come on so the analytics said you were better but you still got swept

47:39Shannon Sharpe:it's bad

47:40Chad Johnson:So analytics is messing up basketball, damn yeah.

47:47Shannon Sharpe:Analytics is messing up sports because it doesn't take into consideration momentum. Momentum. All it does is you punch it in numbers. Well, what about the momentum of the game? What coaches used to coach on gut?

48:07Shannon Sharpe:Now, analytics say we should go for it. analytics say we should punt it analytics say we should

48:12Chad Johnson:analytics say we should shoot more threes than two

48:17Shannon Sharpe:what

48:24Shannon Sharpe:if they had lost one game you know what Joe Ocho if the series was that first game maybe I'd be I would probably believe James Harden I'd say you know what they were had a little slip up things happened But when you get beat like this every game, after game one, how can you even fix your mouth to say that you think you can't lose by 37 points? Ain't no way you can lose by 37 points and think you're a better team. Ain't no way you can lose in the manner in which they lost the other day and think you're a better team. There's no way in hell that you think you can get blown out. None of the games were even close, Joe, after game one.

49:14Shannon Sharpe:They ended up losing game one by double-duty.

49:17Chad Johnson:Game one was too demoralizing, man. I'm telling you. It knocked them off. Listen, it rattled them, and they never were the same, bro. Like, they hadn't been close in none of the damn games ever since.

49:37Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes you just got to be honest. Nah.

49:40Chad Johnson:We just ain't that damn good.

49:43Shannon Sharpe:We ain't got enough. I like to think we're better, but at the end of the day, you are what your record says. Our record says 0-4 in the Eastern Conference Finals. That's what we are. Yeah. And there is a very, very rare occasion in which a team will win a series and not beat a better team. Oh, Joe, how can I be lucky four times? I'm not going to hit no two game-winning shots.

50:16Shannon Sharpe:So even if I hit those game-winning shots, what happened to the other two games? I beat you. These games wasn't close. I can see if they were nip and tug, a game here or there. What 37-point shot you got? if they say okay you guys hit five shots in a row from half court you guys win game four

50:42Shannon Sharpe:james harden now has played 191 playoff games without a championship which is two behind carl malone for the most in nba history those two players are tied for the most playoff wins 98 without a title.

51:06Shannon Sharpe:Mike Brown is back in the NBA Finals for the first time since 2007. The 19-year gap is the longest by a coach in league history. His 11-game playoff win streak is also the longest by a head coach in his first season with a new team.

51:23Chad Johnson:shout out mike brown bro yeah man perfect perfect situation yep yep you hey he inherited a team that they just came off of them eastern conference uh uh yeah finals lost and for him to be able to get him back there and get him to the finals mike brown he gonna be he gonna be stamped in new york too

51:46Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, Lord.

51:50Chad Johnson:Absolutely.

51:51Shannon Sharpe:And I think the thing is that what he didn't do that Tim did, he rolled them into the ground. He grinded them down to the nub. They got the guys playing 40 and 42 minutes in the regular season. And then when they get to the postseason, they out of game.

52:05Chad Johnson:And I think Mike Brown understood it, space and pace, you know, using Cat to be the passer, to initiate the offense. and letting Brunson be more of like an AI guy. You know, I think he got it right with this one. They got a good thing going. What's up? You don't know what? What you saying? What's wrong? What's going on?

52:34Shannon Sharpe:The Cavs and that performance that they put on. That was bad.

52:38Chad Johnson:Yeah, we can't. Hey, now we just.

52:41Shannon Sharpe:Now we. They should have just let the watch car. They should have let Detroit I think Detroit gave them a better series than that

52:48Chad Johnson:The problem The problem with Detroit We know defensively they would have been there It's just they ain't got enough damn firepower Neither To keep up with the Knicks But I think, I personally think it probably It would have been a better series Just due to the defense that they can You know, at the level they can defend

53:10Shannon Sharpe:They ain't finna get walked over They're not going to quit. Nope.

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