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22:18Shannon Sharpe:Right. And they thought they could trust someone. I ain't got no friends. Right. Ocho, you go to another team. You go to the Patriots. Yes, sir. Man, Ocho, what y 'all do? What y 'all looking like out there, man? Where they got you playing at? Ah, man, shit, I don't even know if I'm going to play this week. That's what I'm saying. Right. Right. Anything that I say, they're going to go back and tell the D.C. or they're going to tell the offense, man, this is what Ocho told me they're doing. You dumb-dumbs. Shit, hey, hey, you know the Cowboys, the Cowboys got two picks off of that, though, didn't they?

22:54Yeah. Did they get two picks off of that?

22:57Shannon Sharpe:Yes. From Philly moving up? Yes. Yeah. Plus, you got to realize Dallas and Philly, this is not the first time. They did this with Micah and Devontae. Philly wanted Devontae Smith. Dallas had the pick. They's like, okay, we'll trade back. Just don't take Parsons. Okay, no, we want Devontae Smith. They agree. Yes. I don't know what Pittsburgh was thinking. in this situation. I don't... I don't know why... Why would that guy divulge that information, Ocho Joe? Why? He felt comfortable, Unc. Had to. He had to feel comfortable talking to them boys, but... Hey, it's a dirty business. Hey, man. Hey, Uncle Joe, it always has been.

23:46Not only with the players, but obviously those that wear those jackets and those ties, it's still a dirty business.

23:53Shannon Sharpe:You know, we saw this thing in baseball. Who was that? Well, we saw the Houston Rockets. Houston Rockets. The Houston Astros were stealing signs. They banging on the drums. We saw the card where somebody had all that, their portfolio, the information, the analytics and all that. Yes, absolutely. Yeah.

24:14Hey, we got here. Hey, them Cowboys got some good pickups, though, didn't they? I love the Caleb Downs. How the hell, how Caleb Downs slipped us like that?

24:24Shannon Sharpe:It seemed like somebody said he had some knee issues. Is that correct?

24:30I mean, from what I've been hearing, hell, they were talking about how he's like one of the, if not the best prospect in the draft. Yeah, he up there. He went up. He went up. Hey, he's a great pick. That's one of those picks you really can't miss. And y 'all got another... Melokai? Another Edge. Melokai Lauren? Nah, Jayshon Barham. I think Edge rushed it like a DN. When did they drive film? Did they? Okay. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics. Stuck on a fused spark plug. The long-haul trucker is stuck in gridlock.

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28:31Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. Didn't they get Rodriguez from Texas Tech? he was the Bronco he was the what you call him outstanding defensive player this year the linebacker from Texas Tech isn't he going to Dallas no he's going to Miami he's going to Miami he reminds you of Ocho who was that Zach Thomas you remember Zach Thomas he was number 10 at Texas Tech right yeah yeah yeah I like him didn't he? I think so, yeah. What did Zach Thomas call? Zach Thomas, the linebacker. Yeah, Zach, no, Zach Martin went to Notre Dame. Hey, matter of fact, when I think about the draft and the first two rounds and I think about giving team grades based on what they've done so far with the first two rounds, the goddamn Cowboys get an A.

29:27Goddamn Philadelphia, they get a goddamn A. I don't know what, hey, Howie Roseman, I don't, he just made for this stuff, huh? He just made for this stuff. Whether it's his draft, whether it's offseason acquisitions, whether it's playing players early, you know, a little earlier than you're supposed to. If you trade that made? Everything he does, he always does it right.

29:45Shannon Sharpe:If you trade that made? What trade that made? Yes. They got Grinner, who was opposite of Anderson. I talked about it last night. I said, Ocho, I've been hearing that he was on the market. Guess what? They trade for him Four years,$100 million, boom, done deal. Now we got another pass rusher. Damn. That's crazy. So the receiver, he for sure up out of there. AJ, he for sure out of there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. June, June. He'll be over there. He'll be over there in Boston. He'll be over there in Boston. Pass. He'll be happy. I mean, look, it happens sometimes. Sometimes you have irreconcilable differences, and sometimes we can park amicably.

30:27mm-hmm yeah that happens hey hey chat i'm curious to chat what they think about the draft and as far as the teams what team what grades would you give some of this some what grade would you give your team your favorite team on how they've done so far in the draft a bank bangles bank i mean people you know people are laugh what we've done defensively y 'all got better ocho hey i mean listen, I can't say we got better. I know we got some hell of a pieces. Can I say that? Can I say that up? Jared Allen. We got Sexy Dexy. A young boy from Texas A &M. Yeah, yeah. Joe. Man, Cassius Howell. He like that?

31:13No, I'm just looking at what I'm seeing on film, you know, based on the highlights. Twitchy, aggressive. He nice. And he got a little dog in him. We out there talking trash. Most of the time, you don't see that too much, especially from defensive linemen. Hey, we're going to be nice. If we get Shamar Stewart to come out this year and show the progress and improvement. He was the first-round pick last year. He didn't do much last year, but we get him coming along this year, man. Hey, Miles Murphy, I like it. We improve defensively. It's one thing to have names, but it's another thing when the goddamn bullet's flying, are you going to show up on Sundays when they count?

31:55Hey, what your Ravens and your Broncos do? They get better?

32:00Shannon Sharpe:They took an offensive lineman. I think both teams took offense. No, I'm trying to think, what did the Broncos take? Hell, I don't even know. The Ravens took, I know the Ravens took the offensive lineman from Penn State. And they took defense, I think they took defense in the second round. I see. They had an early pick in the second round. I see them Browns got them some receivers, some offensive tackles, didn't they, man? Yeah, I told them to they need receivers. They need some receivers. Ocho, what are your thoughts on the Steelers calling Malachi Washington when they weren't even on the clock?

32:34Shannon Sharpe:Lemons. I was watching them. What the hell did I get watching? Lemons. Malachi Lemons. Makai. Makai, not Malachi. Makai. Malachi went to the Cowboys. Yeah. Jake Rosenberg said, clubs that are not on the clock, may have discussions with representatives of one or more draft-eligible players not yet selected or discussion with players themselves regarding the players' interest in playing in the league, playing for a particular club, or type of club, the players' health, or other non-financial matters, so long as these discussions do not interfere with discussions between player and clubs that is on the clock.

33:18Shannon Sharpe:so I don't know why I don't know why stealing we even have it so stealing you're not what he's supposed to even talk so guess what so they they in the wrong look you can have a discussion you can talk to the representative or you can talk to the players ash right it says you may have discussion with the representative of one or more draft eligible players not yet selected or in discussion or discussion with the player themselves. So theoretically, since they weren't on the clock, they shouldn't have to have a conversation. But you don't. Right, you're not supposed to be able to do that, though.

33:55Shannon Sharpe:So yeah, I got no, hey, so good, you're supposed to lose. You could talk to the agent, but you're not supposed to be having a conversation with said player. With the player, with the player, right. So still, I don't know why you mad.

34:10Shannon Sharpe:One lowdown dirty deed deserves another. hold on what what player what player are the other receivers are the Steelers on the phone with Makai Lemon when they weren't on the clock they made Dallas doesn't deal with Philly Philly land the jet that's right that's how that's how he ended up over there okay okay okay you're supposed to be able you could talk to my hey talk to his representative but you're not supposed to be on the clock with the player unless you're on the clock he He wasn't on the – Steelers weren't on the clock. Because if they were on the clock, guess what? There wasn't nothing Philly could do.

34:48Shannon Sharpe:Right. But since they weren't on the clock, Dallas said, hey, you know what? We ain't selected him. So let us go ahead and pick up a couple of extra draft picks that might help us out down the road. Hello. And Makai Lemon, boy, he upset too. Why you say that? Yo, he upset. He upset. He felt he was one of the better players in the draft and should have been going a little earlier than Woody Diego. go, he got a little chip on the shoulder. You got a little chip on the shoulder. Obviously, you know, there were rumblings and talk about the way he does his interviews and his mannerisms, the way he conducts himself when talking, but that's just him.

35:23That's just him. He's not Peyton Manning. He's not Tom Brady. They just don't like the way it comes off, the way he does his interviews. But hey, this man here to play football. He's here to play football. You know, how he conducts himself when the camera and the mic is in front of him, that has nothing to do with what he does on the goddamn field. But he was pissed off, and you can tell. You can tell. So I hope he go out there and do his you-know-what thing.

35:45Shannon Sharpe:It's reported that the Eagles were trying to get in touch with Lemon, but he's on the phone with the Steelers. Because you know if you're strapped and you're on the phone, what's the likelihood of you clicking over? Because you're already on the phone with the NFL team. So whoever's calling is not nearly as important as who you're on the phone with. Right, right, right. Not even close. We're trying to call, little boy. This's the number he gave us? Because, you know, you got to give them a number, Ocho. Where are you going to be? They're asking for your number. Where are you going to be? Are you going to be in Miami?

36:16Shannon Sharpe:Are you going to be in Oregon? Are you going to be here? Are you going to be there? What's the best number? Is there a second number? Nah, this is all the number I got. Yeah. So they try to get in touch with him. They're like, well, damn.

36:31Shannon Sharpe:He click over. Hey, congratulations, Makai. We just selected you. Huh? I was talking to the Steelers. It's a dirty game. Talk to them about what? Day on the clock. It's a dirty game. Hey, boy, that's a hell of a feeling, though. The draft, that's something you'll never forget, bro. That's something you'll never forget. It's a hell of a feeling. Yeah, it's nerve-wracking. Hell, if you didn't have anxiety, you probably got it that day. You feel me? Yes. You know what I tell you, Ocho? Guys need to understand. It's not ha-ha. It's where you go. that's the most important thing. We've seen guys go high, go to the wrong situation.

37:16Shannon Sharpe:We've seen guys go to the right situation. Tom Brady and flourish went to the sixth round. Yeah. Maybe somebody else. Hey, he gets cut. They kept four quarterbacks in New England. That's unheard of. Four active quarterbacks on the roster. Coach Belichick saw something. He was so convinced that this guy had something. Say, you know what? But, hey, just do scout team stuff and don't even worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, that's not the way the players think about it too long. You know, everybody wants to go early. You're right. Obviously, money plays a huge factor in wanting to go early.

37:52But the money is so different now as opposed to when we were playing and when we got drafted. Hey, you can go in the goddamn third round and still be sitting damn near world pretty.

38:03Shannon Sharpe:Hey, second round is getting first round of money now, Ocho. Oh, yeah. compared to what first rounders normally get. You do realize, I think all first rounders contracts are guaranteed. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. That running back got the running back, he got the most guaranteed money ever. 50. To my love. 50. Yeah. Yeah. I see why his parents were doing this all night. Yeah, they should. Hey, hey, what about the kid who we had on here, Avion Terrell? He got drafted by the Falcons. He was a father. Go over Jordan's brother. And he playing with his brother. Oh, man, that's so hard, bro. Hey, what? That's so dope, Joe.

38:43That's crazy. Oh, man. Hey, Unc, has there ever been a tandem of brothers that actually played together on the same team at the same position?

38:52Shannon Sharpe:Not that I know of. Damn. I can't think of anything off the top of my head. Hey, and they both from here. Yeah, they with the Wesley. Damn. Hey, can you imagine that? A.J. Terrell on one side and his brother on the other side. Oh, that's crazy. You can do that if you're on the defensive side. I wasn't trying to play with my brother. He a ball hog. They're throwing that ninja the ball, man. Man, that guy drafted. He had just come out of leading the league. He had just come out of leading the league in catches. First team off-road. 92-93. he went back to back over 100. Nah. Woo. Damn. Hey, what kind of advice did you give your uncle when you were going through your process?

39:42Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Ocho. They did. There've been a few. Shaquille and Shaquem Griffin for the Seahawks played. Oh, yeah. Number one was a linebacker. The other was a DB. Yeah. Jason and Devin McCourty played with the Patriots. Oh, no. I'm saying they... No, they... Okay, okay. You're right. I'm just saying in the draft, I mean, drafting to the same team. Oh, no, no, no, no, not drafting. No, no, no, no. They ended up playing together. I mean, actually, one player, your brother already been there. Do you actually get drafted to the same team? Not at the top of my head, Ocho. Not at the top of my head. Okay, okay, okay.

40:14Shannon Sharpe:And Derrick and T.J. Watt both played with the Steelers. But I think Derrick ended up, he was drafted by the Chargers, wasn't he? I think that Griffins were drafted. Yeah, Shaquille and Shaquille was drafted. They both got drafted to the same team. One was a first-round pick, and I think the other was a second-round pick. They both got drafted to Seattle? Yeah. I remember that. Yeah, that's dope. Man, that's got to be the best. Oh, what about what you call him, Joe? What about Cam and Casey Hayward? Both of them in Pittsburgh.

40:50Shannon Sharpe:Oh, he might not have been. Was he drafted? Was the little brother drafted?

40:58Hmm.

41:04Connor.

41:04Shannon Sharpe:Connor. Hey, that's dope, man. Was he drafted to the Steelers or were we the free agent?

41:12I mean, to be from here, though, and playing for the Fountain, bro, that's... Yeah, he was drafted Hayward.

41:22Shannon Sharpe:Connor and Cam Hayward. Damn.

41:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, obviously. I mean, you probably got a handful of instances, Ocho. If you go back and study the NFL, maybe you got a handful of history. Right. Instances in which guys have gotten drafted, brothers have gotten drafted. Maybe they played at a later date and time, but to be drafted, man, that's unbelievable. That's dope. As parents, they got to be one of the greatest feelings in the world, one of the greatest feelings. I mean, obviously with Donna Kelsey, what she was able to do. Oh, yeah. I mean, Terrell's parents. I mean, the Watt family, the Manning family. That has to be one of the greatest feelings, man.

42:11The Barber. Golly. Oh, yeah. Tiki and Ronda. Yeah, Ronda and Tiki. Yeah, man. That's dope. Pouncey. Yeah. Sonoran and Santana Moss. Trying to think. The list goes on, man.

42:33Shannon Sharpe:but you know what Ocho what happened I mean they got some very very touching heartwarming stories but I only know I only know one set of brothers they got these there you go hey hey hey hey you right about that hey I like that hold on hold on uh oh uh oh uh oh here you go here you go Hey, so Chauncey got a gold with two? Nah, nah, nah. Hey, listen. I'm the only one with a 14-carat gold bust. You hear me, Hanjo? Hey, Chad. Hey. Hey. Only one with a 14-carat. Hey, wait till I get my arm. Hey, you look like me, Hanjo. Yeah, you look like you, bro. Hey, that dome. You got a little knot up there on your dome.

43:19You got that little knot up there. Uh-huh. See, you should.

43:24Shannon Sharpe:You should have been working with Chauncey. You got Chauncey to be playing football. Nah, Chauncey a hooper, man. Chauncey, he don't like football. He don't like that contact. Hey, Joe, you talking about playing me. My brother. Who's your brother? Now whoop your brother's ass. Hey, hey. Don't bring your brother in this mess. Hold on, hold on, Joe. Both of my brothers, my brother Chauncey, my brother Sam, I promise you that they can be buckers, boy. Line it up. Line it up. No, you think you slick. You ain't getting away from me. You going to deal with me, boy. You going to deal with me, boy. You going to deal with me.

44:05I whooped their ass, too.

44:10Hey, Joe. Boy, this ain't the NBA, Joe. What we playing streetball. I grew up playing streetball. What are you talking about? I grew up playing that. Okay. Yeah. Okay, Joe. Hey, all right. All right, man.

44:22Shannon Sharpe:All right. All right. We got the rounds two and three have now concluded. The first pick of the second round, De 'Jon Stribbling. He went to San Francisco receiver. I think he's from Ole Miss. I'm trying to think. Oh, our guy K-Mac, he went to Houston. Did he? Yeah, he went to Houston. Yeah. He'll fit good in with Houston. Oh, yeah. Hold on, I got to pull up my list. What round are you in? You're in round two, right? Yes, round two. the guy we talked about Texas Tech who was the defensive player of the year Jacob Rodriguez he went 43 he went to the Dolphins Zion Young from Missouri he from the crib he from Brazelton yeah he went to the Ravens Josiah Trotter Jeremiah's son he went to the Bucks damn Jeremy Bernard that's dope went to the Steelers Avion Terrell with a pick later he went to the Falcons.

45:24Shannon Sharpe:DeAngelo Pounds. We've had him on a couple of times. Guys, remember the guy from Indiana? He goes to the Jets. CJ Allen, linebacker from Georgia. The thumper. He went to the Colts in the 53rd pick. Oh, man. The Eagles got Eli Stowers. He was the Mackey Award winner. Outstanding. His physical traits. We like that. Oh, my God. I think he had like a 40, who do they have, a 45, 46 inch vertical? Because you know, Joe, they test vertical in the NFL. You jump off both feet. You don't get a running start like they do y 'all in the NBA. That's just straight up. Just straight up. No one step, no nothing.

46:05Shannon Sharpe:No one step. Just straight up. Guys doing 45, 46, 44. Hey, look, I commend y 'all. I ain't going to lie. Hey, y 'all boys be some different athletes. I ain't going to lie. Yeah. Hey, yeah, Joe. at the combine, my, uh, my bad jumped to 46. You was 46. 45.5. That's what Star Wars was, which was the highest. I think, no, no, Sensorball. Sensorball has the record at 45 or 46. Yeah. I think me and Sensorball tied. Well, you ain't having no 46-inch vertical. 135. I did, Joe. You ain't never seen me jump? So. Yeah, you ain't never seen me jump, Joe. How many inches was it? 135 yeah so wow so 10 feet is 120 so 135 so that's about 11 feet yeah see and you know who else had a good draft too quietest kept them goddamn yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they got a defensive guy they got offensive weapons I like it they got pawns to go on one side yes I like the draft Ocho I do and guess what Ocho they got three first round picks next year next year yeah AG sitting in a real good spot now all we need is a good quarterback play Ocho y 'all took another edge Cassius Howe hey he nice now Cassius Howe he nice he real nice it's gonna be I'm looking trying to see who else that jumps off.

47:50Damn. So I like the rest of the rounds, really, after the third round because now you're not picking for needs. Now you get to choose some gems. Yeah, you try to get some gems. You try to add depth. Yeah, and when you're trying to add depth, you're going to find some special out of there.

48:12Shannon Sharpe:The Cardinals, Carson Beck goes to the Cardinals. First pick of the third round, 65. The Broncos get a DT because they lost to DT, one of their better players. He went to the Titans. Yeah. Trying to see who else we... Damn.

48:32I see Philly took an old lineman, tried to show up that after some of them issues. the Bengals we took a DB to Cario Davis with the 72nd pick Drew Aller quarterback from Penn State

48:46Shannon Sharpe:he goes to the Steelers Zachary Zachariah Branch University of Georgia slot receiver quick he goes to the Falcons Jacoby Lane name sound familiar where did he go he went to the Ravens

49:08I'm trying to think

49:11Shannon Sharpe:USC okay

49:16Chris Bell Chris Bell

49:21Shannon Sharpe:don't worry about it guys if your name wasn't called in the first three rounds some of the great players had to wait had to wait I know that's nerve wracking boy man Joe hey Joe I don't care when my name was called Joe just the fact that it was cold but the fact that you had to sit through them first few rounds Ocho and then you gotta wait a couple days shh hey Joe I was smoking a cigar Joe I was chilling boy how old was you then how old was you what damn what 22 how old I was 22 23 yeah 22 23 Joe I was chilling boy I didn't care where I went boy I just knew wherever I'm going boy I'm finna be here it was like it was a dream come true, bro.

50:07Like, I remember Joe, I started crying like a baby. You said you was crying like a baby? What? Because the first thing I thought about was damn, all that you know what I put my grandma through. Man, I rushed out to her and I got in the living room and I gave her a big hug. I said, man, mama, we finally made it. We finally made it. The first thing I said, I can finally get you out of Liberty City. She said, baby, I love you to death. I ain't going nowhere. I ain't going nowhere. Nowhere. I tried to do the upgrade to the house. I tried to do all this nice stuff and move out. Boy, don't you touch nothing on this house.

50:48Same thing with my grandma. Same thing with my grandma, Ocho. She ain't want to move. She ain't want to do none of that. Hey, hey. Mind you, Joe, I'm in one, two, three. Joe, I was in my third year in the NFL. Joe, I'm still staying in the city with my grandma. Yeah, man. You know my cheap ass, Joe. Hey, hey. I bought my mom a new house, Ocho. Hell, I lived with her. The whole entire time. You think I'm going to buy my own house? I'm going to live in here with you. Hell, ain't nobody for me and you like it's always been. You know what I mean? Yes, sir. I know exactly what you're talking about.

51:26Hey, look. I remember the draft like it was yesterday, Ocho. I was in the green room. You know what I mean? I had worked out for the top 10 teams. and they told me I wouldn't go past 10. So it was nerve-wracking for me just to hear the first nine names called before mine. You know what I mean? So once they called me at 10, bro, it's like a sign of relief. You get that big monkey off your back. Yeah. You was good, huh? Man. Hey, look, I ain't even go party that night, Ocho. Them dudes came, the dudes who got drafted, they came by my room. They're like, hey, man, we finna go out to the club. We was in New York.

52:04I said, man, damn that shit. I can't wait to get to Boston tomorrow so I can have my press conference and get started. I didn't even go out, bro. I sat in the room and reflect everything I had been through from a kid, bro, all the way up to this point. I was 20 years old. You know what I mean? I wasn't even leaving yet, bro. Right. And I had the time of my life.

52:25Shannon Sharpe:I guess we all moved back with Grady because I damn sure moved in that back room, had my own phone in the room. Oh, hey, after you made it all? I mean, I had a part. I went back to Savannah State at first because I needed to graduate. I needed two quarters to graduate. So I graduated. Right. And I stayed in Savannah again. But, you know, in like 93, in the 93, 94, I stayed with my grandmother. And I was like. Copenhagen spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics. Stuck on a fused spark plug. The long-haul trucker stuck in gridlock.

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56:26Shannon Sharpe:I got a Ferrari got a Benz got a truck parked outside and I'm sleeping in the back room in my grandma's house this don't make no damn sense what hey Unk boy you know I had all all type of nice stuff sitting out in front of grandma y 'all at the end of the city hey people driving by just to take pictures you know how that be I was like man I got to be the biggest I say I got to be the biggest damn fool. And, you know, my grandma's like, well, baby, you know, you ain't got to leave. Maybe he can stay back here with us. Right, right. You know, I got to get a hotel room. You know, I can't bring nobody in my grandma's house.

57:08Shannon Sharpe:I ain't never shook the covers in my grandma's house. Hey, it wasn't about to start, neither. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, no. I wouldn't even come in my grandma's house past 12 o 'clock. she's like boy y 'all you know come in with no no no no that ain't gonna happen yeah we ain't never done that granted that ain't what now but what yeah we grown yeah we pay all the bills here nah we got i got too much respect for you to come in here and bring some you can go to we can go to your grandma girl girl you about to get cussed out hey ain't nobody ever i look i know but she wasn't having none and not to my knowledge ain't nobody had sex there and you ain't about to be the first one?

57:50Shannon Sharpe:Oh, absolutely not. Absolutely not. But when my brother my brother, like, we go leave, I'll definitely get robbed for a box 385. My grandma told my sister, well, you know, he just had a bathroom on. We'd be okay, won't we, Libby? Libby said, no, Granny, we won't. My grandma ain't want to move, Jan. Like I said, that's all my grandma had known. My grandma had never taken a shower before. damn yeah if she went at work if she had to go to the bathroom at work she went to the bathroom or when she's cleaning white people's homes she went to the bathroom but no 66 66 years old before she got a chance to take a shower in her own home damn yeah hey hey you know older people man they stuck in their ways they ain't trying to do all that moving around She wanted to take the old cast iron bed.

58:49Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you know this guy. You got the old cast iron bed? Yeah. My girl, I tried to take a whip. Granny said, no, no, Granny. We ain't got to take nothing. Just take a cut, some of your clothes, and that's it, Granny. We're going to leave this stuff right here. Hey, y 'all, them houses used to have them big furnaces in the hallway, whether they on the wall or on the floor. Oh, you're talking about that buck stove, Joe. Oh. That's what I think. My great-grandma had one of those. Oh, yeah. You put the wood inside of it. I know exactly what you're talking about. Hey, and listen, you know, you know, I, you know, I pissed my grandma off.

59:23You know, when I first made it, I'm staying here. So obviously I want to upgrade all the furniture. She still got the beads through the walkway. You know, you know, the bees, she still got the bees in the house, Joe. I say, well, hold on, hold on, grandma. Well, if I can't change the beads, um, it's 2002. She still got the goddamn plastic on the couches. what are we doing can I get you some new furniture no you fall asleep on the goddamn couch Joe you wake up you stuck to the couch

59:57Shannon Sharpe:you stuck to the couch we had that tough silver tape man that thing furniture we got blue furniture we got silver tape we got black furniture we got silver tape cause you hey that's what you got you got the phone books or you had a phone book. Because back then, phone books were thick. Cesar Roebuck, JCPenney. Oh, yeah, yeah. Those books were thick. The yellow phone books. Yeah. The yellow ones, huh? That's how you hold a table up. That's the comfy table, end table. Hey, hey, boy, I'll never forget. My mama worked at Alltel. She worked at Alltel. Oh, you got free phone service. I burnt it up so bad.

1:00:34She told me when I was, I burnt it up so bad, my phone bill was like, I'm going to go like$1 ,500 one time. Damn, Joe! Damn, Joe! Hey, I'm in college. I'm boo-loving like a mug on that jar. I don't even... Hey, hey. Ocho, I'm laying up in the bed. Like, I just... Like, I ain't on no minutes. Boy, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She said, boy, what the hell is you doing? Who you talking to? Hey, I can see it.

1:01:06Shannon Sharpe:That's how he is. Hey, hey. Hey, he on the phone. He putting the bathroom on. Yeah, yeah, bitch. Yeah. That was me. Hey, listen. Well, hey, she came home one day after work. After I had them got drafted, I had bought one of them big flow model TVs. I'm talking about that junk was so big. And I had them, we only had like one couch in there. It was run down. I had them bought three couches. Hell, that shit couldn't even fit in the living room. I had so much furniture in there. She was like, what did you do?

1:01:40Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe Cunkett here to my float model. That's what we call it in the South float model TV. When them big float model TVs? Yeah, yeah, tube. There were tube, see back then we used to have a tube TV. Yeah. And then you got projection, then you got the projection screens and then they came with the flat panels. But you know, I remember getting my grandma like, ooh, where we gonna put that TV at? Yeah. You know, we had the big, big old, big float model but it was projection screens. Yeah. Ooh, living, that's a big TV, ain't it? Yeah. Hey, Joe, it was hell, Uncle Joe. You know, I got my grandma her first car.

1:02:15I got my mama her first. I'll never forget, BMW, 5 Series, convertible top. So now it's on to my grandma. Mommy, we got to get you something new. We got to get you out of here. She driving a Mercedes, Joe, you know? But she had the diesel Mercedes, huh? My grandma was driving the diesel Mercedes. He's like, come on, baby, we got the upgrade. We got the upgrade. She was saying, no, I'm good with the car I had. I ain't had no choice. I went down to Brayman. I'll never forget it. I went down to Brayman Motors right down on Biscayne Boulevard down here, Miami. Got my grandma the newest model of the 7th Series.

1:02:51And I just brought it to the house. I just brought it to the house, put the ball on it. And I say, listen, whether you can get mad all you want, this is for you. Hey, it's nothing like, bro, when you can give back, especially to the ones who took care of you when you was young. That's all it's about. Oh, my God, bro.

1:03:07Shannon Sharpe:Hey, y 'all remember them calling cards? Yeah, yeah. We had some guys got caught up with the calling cards. Because I already know, because if you get the calling card, what's happening, you get the calling card, you calling. What they would do is call somebody that you call. Do you know anybody, if you touch and such? My grandma's going to get me up. So I already know I couldn't use no calling card. You know anybody at Savannah State, ma 'am? Yeah, my baby going out of Savannah State. They're going to come hauling my ass out the door. So I ain't mess with that. But, man, them Joe getting them calling cards.

1:03:39Yeah. Burn through them cards.

1:03:42Shannon Sharpe:I don't see too many guys get jammed up. It'll be$3 ,000,$4 ,000. Because everybody on the same calling card. So you know how much that bill is. If you got 20 guys on one calling card. Hey, hey. Calling home. Man. What kind of calling cards y 'all have? Because my calling card, I tell you, you got two minutes left. You have two minutes left. Man, there to be no stuff. Man, there to be no stuff. Man, look here. You know how we are. Now we're going to find a way to hook the system. You're going to steal somebody else's car. We're going to find a loophole every time. Every time. We're going to hook the system now.

1:04:17I already know it, boy.

1:04:18Shannon Sharpe:We find a way, the machine, the washing machine. You put the quarters halfway in there. Oh, man. It goes by. It starts working. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1:04:29Shannon Sharpe:We're going to find a way. We're going to hook it up now. Yeah. Yeah, got to. Sean McVay opened tonight's press conference saying he got so many texts about last night post-draft news conference and wanted to clarify that he and GM Les Snead couldn't be more lockstep in every decision that we make. The Rams drafted Ty Simpson at number 13. And on McVay's brief response to the question and overall body language led some to speculate that he was unhappy with the Rams pick. Ocho, do you believe Sean McVay? Absolutely not. He know he was unhappy. He didn't like it. That came from upstairs. He didn't want that pick.

1:05:07That pick came from upstairs. Listen, I like Ty Simpson. I like what he did, you know, at Alabama. It was cool. But he's not the one. Excuse me. Let me take this back. He's not one that's going to be the successor to goddamn Matt Stafford. He's just not. Most of the time, you see quarterback come in. Are they going to allow him to develop? Well, you just drafted a quarterback not long ago, and Stetson Bennett, who you thought was going to be the one to be the successor, obviously he's not the answer. And you're going on, now you draft another quarterback. That position, Joe, is one of the hardest, Unc, to be able to find someone to evaluate because you don't know what you're getting until you put him in that situation under the goddamn fire.

1:05:53It's very, very, very, very difficult. Very difficult. That's why so many teams struggle to find one. So you have no choice but to pick someone that early. You have no choice. Because you don't want to wait, Joe. You don't want to be in quarterback purgatory like the Steelers are. Everyone's not going to be lucky like the Green Bay Packers. You're not going to be able to go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love. It doesn't happen like that. They just got lucky.

1:06:20Shannon Sharpe:Look like they're going to have 50 years of great quarterback play. Damn. You're right. You're right. I don't know. I think the thing, because Sean McVay, look, they got to be long, stepping barrel. because Sean McVay got final say, got a lot of say. Sean McVay is just not a guy that's, oh, he the coach, and he ain't got no say. He got a lot of say. Yeah. I just don't think that was his body language, his mannerisms. With that pick, you can tell that went over his head. The Rams became the first team to have a quarterback win the MVP, then select the quarterback in the first round of the subsequent NFL draft since the Green Bay Packers did in 1967.

1:06:58Shannon Sharpe:the Bart Starr won the award in 1966 and then Green Bay drafted Don Horn 25th overall the following year

1:07:10I don't make no sense to me that this is a it's a it's a pick that makes no sense to me because Matt Stafford with the way he's playing at MVP level at 30 years old ain't no telling when he's gonna give up ain't no telling when he's gonna stop and people say oh his back was hurt in training camp last year. The devil is a lie. Wasn't nothing wrong with him. The man threw 45 touchdowns. He threw 45 touchdowns. Hey, Unc, now you know good and well, we got load management in the NBA, right? Okay, you know what? My back hurt. I don't really need training camp. I know what to do. We talk about Matt Stafford.

1:07:46He's played a lot of football. Ain't nothing wrong with his back. I mean, if you know, you know. I know what you're doing. You don't want training camp. You don't want to.

1:08:02Shannon Sharpe:No, when you look at it, I understand. And I think the thing is that people said, this is the problem Green Bay ran into because instead of drafting somebody that can help Aaron Rodgers right now, you drafted a quarterback that was going to be two, three years away from playing. They see this as a very similar situation. I mean, what player that you thought they were going to be able to draft that was going to come in and say, okay, I mean, you got Devontae, you got Puka, You got Kyron. You got – I'm just trying to figure who they – I mean, defense, they loaded. They loaded up on two corners. The safeties are solid.

1:08:35Shannon Sharpe:The linebackers are really good. The D line is outstanding. You got Burst. You got Young. You took the – I forget where the lineman was from. From Florida State Fisk. I'm just trying to figure out, Ochoa, I mean, who do you think they could have taken that's going to come in right now and be a key contributor to this team?

1:08:57You know what? You know what? I do want to take something back, too. I want to take something back. Because the supporting cast and the defense is so good with Puka and Devontae Smith. You could probably, you probably could plug Ty Simpson in. Probably could because the supporting cast around him is so goddamn good. McVay is such a genius when it comes to play calling and being able to play to his player strength. So whatever weaknesses Ty Simpson may have, maybe he can go in there and be efficient and be good. He won't be Matt Stafford. No, I'm saying he will have time to develop. No, he will have time to develop and get better playing behind an MVP caliber Superbowl winning quarterback.

1:09:43But I'm just, I'm just basing everything off what I saw in college, Joe. That's all. You was, you was okay at Alabama, but the bottom dropped out to the season, you know, you know, that's, that's all I'm saying. I don't know. Check this out, guys.

1:09:59Shannon Sharpe:Because he was drafted 57th overall, Logan Jones will receive a lifetime supply of ketchup from the Kraft Heinz company. Jones didn't know the incentive of the draft slot until he was informed on Zoom after being selected. I love it. I'll take as much as I can get. Let's go, ketchup. He was drafted 57? He was drafted from Heinz 57. Yeah, yeah. Damn. That's dope. That's mean. I mean, how much ketchup you think you guys have eaten in a lifetime? Yeah. Me? You eat ketchup on your hot dog? Oh, your hot dog's plain. Yeah, I eat my glizzy's plain, huh? Even my french fries. When I go to McDonald's, I make sure it's lightly salted.

1:10:49Y 'all ain't never had ketchup on your chips, like your Lay's chips or nothing like that? When I was younger. You don't do it now? We used to put hot sauce on them, Joe. Yeah, we put hot sauce. You put ketchup on your chip. Yeah, man. Hey, I like me some ketchup now. Ketchup. Ketchup on your chips. On some Lay's, on some Lay's chip.

1:11:08Shannon Sharpe:We used to put. I like Lay's. I don't put no ketchup. We used to put peanuts in Coca-Cola. Remember we put peanuts in the bottle, Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you guess what? You drank all the Coca-Cola, peanuts stuck at the bottle. You never get them out. So. Hold on. Wait. Where they do that at? peanuts in your Coca-Cola? You have a Coke, you know, Coke, those bottles? So you put peanuts in them? Yeah. Yeah. You ain't never did that, Ocho? What did that do? Hey, hey. I know y 'all did that. I know good and well y 'all put peanuts in y 'all Coca-Cola. Hey, y 'all ain't never mixed popcorn with your chips?

1:11:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Ocho, you ain't never mixed popcorn with your chips? Nah, I ain't never heard of that joke. I ain't never heard of this. I forget. What is it called? Gorp? But they put popcorn, peanut and plain M &Ms and raisins. We did, that was what you call them. That was, you know, that wasn't us. That was their parents. Yeah, yeah.

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