Nightcap Hour 2: CFP Championship + Jameis Winston QB1 in NY + Jaire Alexander STEPS AWAY from Eagles + Nico Harrison OUT in DALLAS + Klay Thompson BAMBOOZLED by Mavs + Morris Twins VS Jokic Brothers

18:05Chad Johnson:Okay, here we go. Let's see. Let's watch it. Hey, it ain't nothing worse. It ain't nothing worse than after the game. Boy, you get in there and coach got that clicker and he rewinding this same play. You and you like, oh, my God. Yes. It ain't nothing like watching yourself on film, bro, and you look like some slouch stir fry out there. Yes. Yes. It ain't nothing like that. Hey, look, I used to be in the game thinking like, boy, I cannot look like no trash on film tomorrow. I can't do it. Same thing, Joe.

18:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I ain't going to miss my assignments. We got to win this game because if we lose this game, they're going to show this film. Lord, please let us – hey, John, please make a play. Let us come back. Yeah. Because I don't want nobody to see – boy, I was terrible. Hey, Sharp, what you doing on this play? I think I got it. Nothing. Nothing. That's what Sharp did on this play. Absolutely, totally nothing. That's what Sharp did. But it's tough. It is tough when you've been a really good player for a period of time and then injuries won't allow you to be that. Yeah. People don't know you're injured.

19:14Shannon Sharpe:Let me tell you something else. Don't give a damn if you're injured. All they know is they see Alexander on the back of that jersey. They saw Johnson on the back of that jersey. They saw Ocho Cinco on the back of that jersey. Don't give a damn about you got an ankle or a toe or a knee or a hip or a back. They don't give a damn about that. You out there, I'm expecting you to make the same plays that I've seen you make time and time again for the last five, ten years. Make them now. Yes, sir. Absolutely right. Your teammates have the same expectations. And your teammates put that pressure on you.

19:48Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you be good to go Sunday, right? Damn, dude, it's Tuesday. Hey, hey, you know, hey. And then the coaches, you know, we're going to put the game plan. We relying on you because we got you in the game playing. Y 'all didn't have me in the game playing before I got hurt. Now you got me in the game playing now, Ocho. Yeah. Now I'm in the game playing. But it's tough. I've been in Jair's shoes where I've been injured. And knowing I'm hurt, but all they see is 84 and they see Sharp on the back of that jersey. Yep. That's what they see. Expectations don't change.

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22:58Shannon Sharpe:Owner Mark Cuban, Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont, reportedly did not make the decision on his own. Amid the Mavericks' woeful 3-8 start to the 2025 season, Dumont reportedly lent his ear to Cuban to hear his grievances about the organization. From the excerpt from The Athletic, Cuban, who still owned 27 % of the team, was known to be frustrated with Harrison for freezing him out after the sale and not consulting him on the choice to trade Luka. League sources say he made his case to Dumont over the last several months that Harrison was steering the franchise in the wrong direction. Cuban also reportedly in a closed-door meeting with Dumont and team president Rick Welts the day before Harrison was pried, according to an NBA insider, Mark Stein.

23:44Shannon Sharpe:Ocho? Yeah. Let me let Joe take this one. Joe, what you thinking?

23:51Chad Johnson:Man, I think it's a tough situation for Nico. Nico is a guy who was once upon a time, Uncle Ocho, he was my brand Jordan rep. like if I need anything that's who I call so I know Nico on a real personal level what he didn't anticipate is obviously Kyrie getting hurt AD getting hurt which I know AD got a history of being hurt he didn't I mean he wasn't thinking that Joe

24:22Shannon Sharpe:so let me get this straight your homeboy he done wreck 10 cars you let him get your car man I ain't think he gonna wreck it

24:30Chad Johnson:You're right. I think he was a little optimistic coming into the season. Like, man, understanding, you know, the backlash that we're getting on Trey and Luka. Like, I'm thinking, I bet he thought that AD was going to come into camp in tip-top shape and ready to go. That didn't happen. You got your two main guys, Kyrie, Terrence, ACL. I mean, this is the worst thing that could happen. This is the worst thing that could happen. So now you got Luke out here averaging 40, and the Mavericks' best two players ain't even on the floor. Correct.

25:06Shannon Sharpe:And considering, like you said, Kyrie gets hurt, AD's hurt, it was reported that Nico was pushing for AD to come back from that calf. they're saying no because you could tear this achilles a la kevin durant so there's like no no no no uh mark cuban let it be known he's like look i wouldn't have traded luca but at least if you're gonna trade him open it up let's see maybe we can get i believe he said i believe we could

25:42Chad Johnson:have got more than what we got and they could have yeah but i got a question though i got a question why are they acting like nico was the only one who made this decision he's the fall guy joe you know i know he's a father i under hey listen i know probably going into this nico probably understood his position in this you know what i mean yes it's like everybody just pointing the finger at nico man that's a that's an organization that man ain't just pulled the trigger yeah he ain't just pulled no trigger and was like you know let's just trade let's trade luca like Like, they had to meet with all this.

26:18Chad Johnson:That's what I'm saying.

26:19Joe Johnson:You could have had 100 meetings, huh? You could have had 100 meetings. You could have had 100 owners. You could have had 100 GMs. I don't think anybody makes that call. I don't think anybody makes that trade. I don't care what the hell he do off the court. I don't care what the hell he drinking after you win a game. I don't care. I don't care every 300 pounds. What do you do for me when you are on the court? What are you doing for me? What type of production are you putting up? Whatever that may be. He's a generational talent. Talents like of that magnitude come around every so often. Every so often.

26:52Joe Johnson:I don't think if you put any regular civilian in a position that even if you don't know basketball, I don't even know basketball like you and Joe. And I can Luka Luka. And you have me in a position of power. I ain't even trading him because I know what he brings to the table. I'm not. You can see it. Even if you don't enjoy the game of basketball. Oh, he's different. Oh, he gives me a chance. He just does. So now Nico's the fall guy. He's the fall guy because the green light has to come from somewhere else. The green light has to come from somewhere else. And it's a power play that we don't understand that they do.

27:32Joe Johnson:Because I think it's bigger than what it really is. It just hasn't come out yet. I still think it's bigger than what it is.

27:39Shannon Sharpe:at the end of the day Joe I don't know if you own any companies but having here at Shea Shea Media they make suggestions right I said okay let's do it if it doesn't work that's on me because they suggested it I could have said no same thing with CJ same thing with Ash they make suggestions okay I go with it some work some don't that's on me because i got the final say

28:13okay nico made the suggestion right but the owner had the final say you don't get to say

28:20Shannon Sharpe:you see you can't say yes it means no ted cruz taught me that he said a lot of times people people in hollywood will say yes but mean no you can't do that do mind if you don't want to trade him you can't say yes and then he trades him and you like no it doesn't work like that right and if you're in the leadership position you the ceo yes you have coos and vps and so forth and so on but if they if they make a recommendation and it doesn't go through they had to get signed off from you if you sign off on it you gotta own it yeah matter of fact everything is not gonna work Hold on. The fact that it was even recommended, that's a fireable offense.

29:09Joe Johnson:The fact that it was even recommended, it was a fireable offense. How? How are you going? How do you have your franchise going in the right direction by going backwards?

29:22Chad Johnson:Well, you got to look at it like this. They had Luka sitting out some games for some time last year. I don't know what you're doing. Before they won. for his calf and they wanted and they gave him extra time because they wanted him to lose some weight throughout that process none of that was working like he wasn't losing weight none of that was working i think the fact that they see him every day talk to him every day understand his conditions and what he's going through i think they just got fed up if you just want me to be 100 i think they got fed up and they didn't think they didn't think it was gonna get better

29:57Shannon Sharpe:they didn't no they didn't think it was gonna get better this is what the owner said in february after the trade. If you look at the grace in this league, people you know, I grew up with Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, they work really hard every day with a singular focus. And if you don't have that, it doesn't work. You shouldn't be a part of the Mavericks. That's what he's saying.

30:25Joe Johnson:Now all of a sudden... Hey, listen, hold on, hold on, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on. You ain't gonna get that out and just go about your business, huh? and he ain't going to get that out. You're not going to sit here and tell me that he watched Jordan and all those names that he just named and saying they didn't work hard. You understand their ability to work hard, the want to, is one of the reasons for the success. So what's the reason that Luke was able to go out there and do what he does? Because it doesn't work hard? You don't just wake up and do what he's doing out the blue.

30:54Joe Johnson:That comes from actual work. That's hard work. there's a reason he's still doing it now that he's gone he's not doing what he's doing now because he lost no goddamn weight he was doing it when he was heavy what are we talking about

31:07Chad Johnson:I think with him

31:10Shannon Sharpe:I would respectfully say Joe he probably should have left Shaq off that list but okay go ahead

31:16Chad Johnson:I think by Luka hearing all this I'm sure he's heard all the rumblers the weight loss I think that obviously gave him a little fire going into the offseason, which is why he lost a little weight. And he looks a lot slimmer coming into this season. And I think it's obviously helped him get off to this tremendous start that he's gotten off to. Yeah. But, you know, being in L.A. He's averaging 37 a game. Yeah. The market in L.A. is totally different from the market in Dallas. Yes. They ain't putting up with all that. You know, they ain't got nothing but mega stars over there.

31:52Shannon Sharpe:And I think the thing is, this was a wake-up call for Luka. There we go. You can sit shockwaves around the NBA. You can trade a guy that's been a five-time all-NBA selection, five times in his first six years, ain't nobody untouchable.

32:04Chad Johnson:Yeah.

32:06Shannon Sharpe:You heard Giannis say it. Nobody's untouchable. But this is ownership because Nico Harrison is not making a move like this. It's just like when you trade. When you trade, when you move up and you move up the draft, Let's just say for the sake of argument, Kansas City, they were sitting at 17. They zoomed up to 10. So that means they're going to swap places with Buffalo, and they're going to give Buffalo their next year their 2018 first-round pick. Okay, you got to get the ownership. You got to get Clark Hunt to sign off on that. Now, Clark Hunt can't then say if Mahomes didn't turn out the way he did, well, you know, blah, blah.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:No, no, you gave them the green light to do this. If you didn't want to do it, don't do it. Everybody get mad that general managers and head coaches, and I get it, I understand. But when you make moves like that, Chicago moving up one spot and giving up next year's first round to get Mitchell Trubisky. They had to go to, rest of their soul, Virginia McCaskey and get that signed off on, Ocho. Yeah. You just can't make a move like that. Ain't no general manager. Hell, ain't even Pat Riley. He got to go to Mickey Aronson. I'm sure he going to McAerris and say, look here, Mickey. Now, it going to cost a little chunk of change now.

33:27Shannon Sharpe:But we can get LeBron and we can get Chris Bosh.

33:31Chad Johnson:Yeah.

33:32Shannon Sharpe:But it going to cost a little chunk of change now.

33:35Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

33:38Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Go get it. But you said yes and you meant no. Well, it's too late. No returns, Ocho. No. You got, hey, as is. Don't mind you been said at the time I wouldn't have traded him mark Cuban said if it came down to me getting the board for keeping Luca Well, it's been not nice on you, babe, but Luke ain't going nowhere

34:09I mean

34:10Joe Johnson:I There's really nothing else I can say about it. I mean the fact that we even recommended recommend who? If they have I was if I was if I was the owners over there in Dallas I would I would I would have fired Nico but even recommending trading him. I'm just being honest. You know what? You fired. I can't say I disappointed. Yeah, man. Come on.

34:31Chad Johnson:I can't say you're wrong for that, Ocho. I just think it's glaring right now because of how Luke was playing and how the Mavericks have kind of... And plus what you call not playing.

34:42Shannon Sharpe:AD's not playing. But like I said, Joe, AD, if you really think about it, AD's had one healthy season. That's 2020 when they was in the bubble. And then what did they get in between that, Joe? A five-month break. Yeah. See, people forget about that, Ocho. They shut it down in February. Yeah. So March, April, May, June, they didn't start playing. He got a five-month break. Other than that, it's his back, it's his shoulder, it's his calf, it's his ankle. So he has a history. AD's phenomenal. I'm not going to take any weight from him. He's a 75th anniversary. He was one of the 75. He was voting one of the 75 greatest players of all time.

35:28Shannon Sharpe:We used to have the discussion. Who would you rather have? Boogie Cousins or Anthony Davis? That's how good Boogie was. Boogie was nice, boy. But he's had an injury history. That is not conjecture. That's not innuendo. That's not speculation. That is fact. And you traded a guy, even though he had never been injured, but that one time for a guy that's repeatedly injured. He's a repeat offender. He's a repeat offender when it comes to injury.

36:04Shannon Sharpe:So I'm confused. Now, if you're a trader saying, okay, give me Giannis. Okay, give me Ant-Man. Okay, you get Shade. I get it. Now, I don't think any of those reported they reached out to, I think they reached out to Milwaukee in. I think they reached out to Minnesota. No, no. Okay. Okay, SGA. OKC is not doing that. But a guy that has an injury history, and I think AD, when he's healthy, he's one of the ten best players in the NBA. He can defend. He can block. He can, you know, give you 25 and 13 on a nightly basis. Give you two and a half, three blocks a game. ultra shots. But he's had a history of injuries.

36:53Chad Johnson:And that's what Dallas is banking on. You know, they went to the finals that year. Uncle Ocho led by Luca and Kyrie. But they had inside presence defensively with Lively and Gafford, but they didn't get no points. No, no, no, no. They didn't have a big who can give them points. So when I look at it, they went and got AD because they're like, then he'll be a great post presence, mid post presence. a great pick and roll guy officially in the playoffs he can average 30 easily you know what i mean i think that's what they were thinking and obviously it just didn't pan out the way that

37:28Shannon Sharpe:that they thought it would but how are the things though joe okay we get ad as an inside present we got a guy that we can dump the ball down to and he's gonna get his own shot i want that with luca

37:40Joe Johnson:not without luca that you won't go ahead you won't gonna get that

37:44Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what to tell you I go somewhere else

37:49Chad Johnson:that's why they kept Kyrie I think they banked on Kyrie being that guy who's going to be a great two man game between Kyrie and AD and unfortunately we never got to see it

38:04Shannon Sharpe:no you hear all the rumblings now that the Mavericks are looking to trade AD

38:12Joe Johnson:once those rumblings start you already know

38:15Shannon Sharpe:you already know it's going to make it look even worse the trade already looks bad and everybody thought it was bad nobody thought this was a good trade but Nico and Dumont those are the people that thought this was a good trade I haven't heard anybody that thought this was a good trade except Nico and Dumont at the time clearly he's having buyer's remorse.

38:41Joe Johnson:I don't even think they thought it was a good trade. They had to because they did it. They had to come out and say it. I know in the back of their mind like, you know what? This ain't right. Something ain't right. I done put my foot in my mouth. You knew good and goddamn well what you was letting go. You knew it wasn't going to look no different whether it was 200 pounds or 300 pounds. You knew he would give you 30.

39:05Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, look, I think AD, when AD is healthy and he's playing, because I've watched him. Go look at AD when he was the guy. And the Pelicans. Give you 28, 12, and 3. Nasty work.

39:22Chad Johnson:That was a long time ago, though, huh?

39:23Shannon Sharpe:But that's what I'm saying. When he was healthy, had Boogie. Because, see, he wants to play. See, AD don't want to bang. Yeah, him and Boogie. Now, he'll play the five, the last five minutes of the ball game. because that's what they did. Because think about it, Joe. He had his best season win with the Lakers. JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard. They would come in and play the five. They did all the grunt work. They did all the leg work. Last five minutes of the game, guess what? He slide to the five. LeBron slides to the four.

39:51Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

39:54Shannon Sharpe:That's when he did his work. But I just, the trade didn't make sense to me. Because, hold on, you're giving up a guy, you say because Luke is not in shape and he's injured, but he's five, six years younger than AD. Yeah. He's five, six years younger. And he can give you more points. He can rebound, and he can assist. He can triple. He can walk in triple-double. Is he as efficient as AD? No, because he's taking 10, 11, 12 step-back threes a game.

40:32Chad Johnson:Yes, sir.

40:33Shannon Sharpe:But he, I mean, when he's cooking, you ain't going to find very many guys. Only Wilt can give you a 60-20 triple-double. And that's what he did. I just don't get why, you know, look, I get it. Like Ojo said, I'd have fired him for making that suggestion. Let me get your ass out of here. How dare you come in my office and talk about trade Luka. What the hell? As a matter of fact, I'm going to trade you for another G. The Lakers were willing to offer Clay Thompson a four-year$80 million deal, but he took a pay cut to go play with Luka in Dallas per The Athletic. The Lakers and Thompson discussed a four-year$80 million deal in free agency that if the Warriors cooperated in a signing trade, would have dwarfed the three-year$50 million deal that he got from the Dallas Mavericks.

41:23But eventually, the Mavericks gave him$50 million,

41:26Shannon Sharpe:and he took that. But the allure of Luka's greatness was a major pull and as a chance to partner with Irving in the backcourt. When given the choice between teaming up with Lakers duo Davis and LeBron or the Mavericks stars, Thompson made a calculated decision to go with the latter. Little did he know the star player would swap and leave him for the wrong end of history. Ocho. Yeah. If you go back and study history, Joe, Kyrie, what is his history? Injury.

41:58Chad Johnson:Injuries.

42:01Shannon Sharpe:injuries. The one thing we know about LeBron, now he got, once he started getting to 19 and 20, he started getting these little knickknacks and groin, you know what I'm saying. If you notice, very rarely will you see LeBron James dive on the floor again. Yeah. Did that one time, you know, hey, as you get older, you ain't got the elasticity. You know what I'm saying? Even though I drink water, I ain't got the elasticity. Right. Once upon a time. You know your boy, But, you know, hey, I'm just saying that's how you want to go. Cars was our bedroom back in the day, Joe. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm talking about.

42:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, and Clay has been impacted because he's been playing terrible this year. I mean, he's awful. He's shooting 18 % from three. I think he's shooting around 30 % from the two. He's just.

42:57Chad Johnson:Yeah, man, you got a rookie playing the point guard who don't know how to play. Yeah, come on, man.

43:02Shannon Sharpe:He ain't no point. Just because he's six, they don't mean he magic.

43:06Chad Johnson:Yeah, so, like, he's not going to understand. I'm saying Cooper Flagg, with him playing the one, he's not going to understand how to, you know, really get Clay the ball to really get him shots because he's trying to prove that he's the number one pick. You know what I mean? But you can see they kind of moved him to the side a little bit, and they brought in D 'Angelo Russell. They should have. Yeah. I think it's good, too. I like to see Cooper fill the lanes and be able to play like that. Be able to play.

43:36Shannon Sharpe:Yes, play with his back to the basket. He can drive the ball. You know, you put it. Hey, you can. But the point guard, he should never primarily have the ball in his hand, Joe. No. That's not what he is.

43:47Chad Johnson:Not unless he get a rebound and he pushing up the floor outside of that. Don't have to get big taking it out, giving it to Cooper flag so he can bring it up to initiate the offense. I don't, yeah, nah, I agree with you on that.

43:57Shannon Sharpe:He's not a big you can play through. Jokic, you can play through. Yes, sir. You can run your offense through. Draymond, you can run your offense through. That's not who Cooper Flagg is. You got to know what you got. I understand he's the first pick in the draft. And a lot of times you have these ideas, oh, I see him doing this, I see him doing that. But you didn't see him do that at Duke.

44:17Chad Johnson:Right.

44:18Shannon Sharpe:That's not what he did. And now you get, so now, you take this dinner napkin and you try to make it a tablecloth. You see what you did, Ocho? It's a dinner napkin. You try to make it a tablecloth. Let it do what it do. Yeah.

44:38Yeah.

44:39Shannon Sharpe:But Clay like, man, y 'all got me down here in Dallas, but I ain't too mad. You know, I got something.

44:46Chad Johnson:Hello. I ain't too mad.

44:49Shannon Sharpe:I ain't too mad. Dallas been okay to me. That's just me. Made my basketball game, but there are more important things in life than basketball. You see? Hey, that's funny. Oh, Joe, before we go to the next topic, it's holiday season, and the team at Iso Joe Foundation and Nightcap want... Oh. Want you to help our community and make sure everyone can enjoy a wonderful Thanksgiving. Please donate$40 to feed a family of 10 with a full Thanksgiving meal and all the sides. No one should go hungry. The link is pinned in the chat. Joe, tell us about how you came up with this idea.

45:32Chad Johnson:Man, me and my team got together and we just wanted to, you know, do something special for the families who may not have a great Thanksgiving. You know, this upcoming Thanksgiving. So we thought this would be a great, you know, small token of our appreciation. and we already got people making donations, Uncle Ocho. You know, these feasts, these dinners, because that's typically what it is, it's$40 to feed 10 people. To feed 10 people. Really? That's it? $40 to feed 10 people, and we already got people making donations, so all you got to do is go to www.isofoundation.org, and all you got to do is donate$40, bro.

46:15Chad Johnson:you could feed 10 people.

46:17Shannon Sharpe:Nah, I'm going to do better than that. Ocho, Ocho, you're going to match. I got 10. I'm going to send you 10K. Oh, all right. Hell, if$40 can feed 10, I don't know how many. My math ain't good at the top of my head right now, but I want people to have a very festive Thanksgiving. I don't want people to be hungry. I want people to look. I understand times are hard right now. Everything that's going on with, and I can't do anything about what's going on up in D.C. Right. Absolutely. All I can do is, how many can we feed? We can feed 250.

46:49Chad Johnson:I appreciate that. 250 families. Ocho, you want to feed 500?

46:53Joe Johnson:Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, my math ain't right. Hey, how much that is, huh? I feed 250, you feed 250, so 10 for me, 10 for you. I need to understand. I need numbers. I need to hear numbers so I get a better understanding of how much we talking about. 10K feeds 250 families. Yeah, hey Joe, I'm gonna show Send over to something to you, Joe

47:18Joe Johnson:I'm sending you 10, Joe You have mine tomorrow I appreciate that

47:23Chad Johnson:I appreciate that

47:25Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna get you right, Joe Nah, hell nah They're talking about Ocho, donate that$5 ,900 Hell no, he ain't gonna donate no$5 ,900 That's mine

47:34Joe Johnson:Hey Joe, where the link at?

47:37Chad Johnson:You gotta go to Hey, Ocho, you got to go to www.isofoundation.org.

47:45Joe Johnson:Hey, baby. www.bebe. ISO.

47:55Chad Johnson:www.isofoundation.org. Isofoundation.org. Hey, Ocho. Yeah. You ain't even got to worry about that little$100 you owe me neither, man. You just don't even worry about it. Don't even worry about it. You going to hook these families up?

48:07Shannon Sharpe:go to www get lumped up if you don't pay uncle's money

48:14Joe Johnson:hey let me let me know you find it hey hey send them yeah you found it hey hey donate donate for thanksgiving real quick hey uh doing righteous with some with three g roads boy that's what i'm

48:25Chad Johnson:talking about hey boy y 'all i don't care what they say about y 'all boy y 'all i hate with me

48:29Joe Johnson:you hey hey hey hey listen i'm all i'm all about helping i'm all about feeding families you hear

48:35Chad Johnson:me because i it was hey look whenever y 'all got something jumping off y 'all let your boy know hey look i got you hear me okay okay yeah yeah you got a black suit joe yes sir

48:50Shannon Sharpe:my money don't come in by the new year you're gonna be attending one

48:58Shannon Sharpe:so we i'm gonna feed the families you know i'm saying you know what that you know you go to the you know, you get a nice, get a nice meal. Yeah. Hey, you gonna kill me?

49:10Joe Johnson:Man, you gonna be 50 ,000 for two years, man. Come on. That's crazy. I got child support, I'll be hiding a little bit. I'll be hiding a little bit. You know, I was just trying to catch up. You feel me? You know, work with your boy, man. Work with your boy.

49:24Chad Johnson:That's crazy. Man. I mean, I look, I so appreciate y 'all though. I so appreciate y 'all. Them family's gonna appreciate y 'all too, man.

49:34Shannon Sharpe:Oh yeah, yeah. We want everybody to get some, you know, I show over there just one scoop of mashed potatoes, one scoop of a dressing, Joe.

49:41Chad Johnson:Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Oh, it gonna feed 10, nah, nah, nah. We gonna do them right. We gonna have them right. Okay. I appreciate that, I appreciate that. Damn. That's up. Yeah. It work?

49:53Joe Johnson:What? Nah, she, we - Yeah, it's working. My league working too. Hold on, I'm sitting, I'm sitting, huh? My link work too.

50:02Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay. What's your link though, huh? WWW, you will get effed up if you don't pay Unc's money. I got you.

50:11Joe Johnson:I got you. Hey, hey, hey, you got to understand the importance of what this is. This is Thanksgiving. It's all about giving back. You know, a lot of people are just starving. We don't want them to starve. See, you're not hurting for that 5 ,900. I'm hurting. You're in a good space. You're in a good space.

50:25Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm hurting. I'm hurting. I'm hurting. I'm hurting.

50:42Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, one thing about it, boy, it ain't never as bad as it seems. No, hell no. It ain't never that, but what we lose, we will always get back. Because in a very, I give you, I give it six more months, but we're going to be right back

50:56Shannon Sharpe:Left from all I'm saying to you. Hey, all I do is ask the Lord to give me a wake me up in the morning.

51:02Joe Johnson:That's it

51:02Shannon Sharpe:That's all I need as it man He don't get me the tools he he don't gave me he don't gave me the weapons to go fight any war Yes, sir when he wake me up in the morning. That's all I need. Yeah Oh, Joe Paul Pierce says he's taking the Morris twins over the yogurt brothers and a street fight Joe Right. Ooh Woo! One of them like 6 '10", 400. Yeah, you know, that don't mean nothing in the screen. I don't know if he can,

51:28Chad Johnson:he gotta be able to move with all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause that's what they said,

51:31Shannon Sharpe:they said, man, he ain't got no cardio. I briefly heard him talking about it. I heard him briefly talking about it.

51:40Chad Johnson:No, no.

51:41Shannon Sharpe:But hold on. One of them an MMA fighter.

51:44Chad Johnson:Yeah. One of the - Jokic brothers. Jokic brothers.

51:49Shannon Sharpe:And the one thing you know about MMA fighters, They normally, even though big Ocho, they normally got some decent cardio now.

51:54Joe Johnson:Yeah, they got a little decent cardio, you know, a little ground game. You know, they don't play fair. They don't play fair. And especially with anybody with any kind of combat training, I mean, it gives them an advantage over any regular civilian. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. And 6 '10", 400? Yeah, that's a big boy. That's a big boy. Nah. You know, I had a chance to film with a day. Who? Ilya Teporia. Oh, Ilya Tabor, okay. Yeah, we filmed it down here in Spain. And, of course, my crazy ass asked him if he won a spar. And when I asked him if he won a spar, he didn't show me the highlights of all his knockouts.

52:34Joe Johnson:Man, he didn't knock that brother Max Holloway. Yeah. Oh, he got crazy hands, old Joe. Yeah, you ain't had to tell me. You ain't had to tell me. So you ain't want none of that smoke? Yeah, after I seen the highlights they showed me, I was like, nah, you know, listen. we're gonna do the work we need to do right now but yeah i changed my mind i don't want to spa no i i'm i'm thinking because you know he's a little small i'm like man what man i man i

53:03Shannon Sharpe:but he talking about he can now he's talking about he want to fight a bud i like bro you you i look i understand you mma but mma boxing and pro boxing is two different things ask conor McGregor. Now he caught Floyd on the tail end. Imagine he caught Floyd five years earlier.

53:22Chad Johnson:Man, Floyd toyed with that boy.

53:24Joe Johnson:Yeah, for sure. Hey, he let him get in them deep waters, Joe. Yeah. Let him get tired. Punch yourself out. Go ahead, punch yourself out. Get tired and I'm going to catch you on the back end.

53:35Chad Johnson:Yeah.

53:37Shannon Sharpe:Nah, hey, the one thing I say about the Morris brothers now, they ain't going to back down from no action. No, no, they ain't. Hey, once I found out they fought the football team, I was like, okay, they real. One football team in Kansas? In Kansas, yeah. Which means they fought the football team? They fought the football team. The whole team was a few players. A bunch of them. Okay. The mere fact that they did that, because I ain't never heard of a basketball team, because that would have never happened at state. Right. Mm-mm. Yeah, that's real. They didn't want them problems. That's real. As a matter of fact, normally, don't nobody want them problems.

54:14Shannon Sharpe:unless you come from the city. Now, you know, sometimes, you know, they guys got to squabbling with people out the city. That's a whole different animal. And, you know, we try to contain that because me, I got the car that everybody knows. I can't be out there, you know, because you know your boy back then, Ocho. Mm-hmm.

54:34Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

54:35Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I was waiting.

54:36Chad Johnson:I was waiting. You used to be in there with your shirt off

54:39Shannon Sharpe:and anything in the spot. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't go to no party, Joe. But you know what I'm saying? I'm at the car wash. I'm at the barbershop. You know, I had to pull up, you know, late at night.

54:49Chad Johnson:You know?

54:50Shannon Sharpe:But then I got a 300ZX Sky Blue, and I got a 300 Benz. Everybody know. Man, it's expensive car. You had that in college? Yeah. I had a brother play in the league. You think he going to leave? Oh, I got eyes on. I got Levi's. Man, I'm playing. I got polo. Darksiders for sure where you were clean, huh?

55:18Chad Johnson:Yeah, I Had all that in college in a cat like me and have about two pair of jeans

55:24Shannon Sharpe:I went to college with two brown red pigly wiggly bags

55:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, no touchdown was$200 a hundred hundred yard game with$200 I have 200 yards and four touchdowns. Ocho, you know how much money that is?

55:47Joe Johnson:That's a lot. That's a lot. Hey, listen, in college at that time, boy, hey, make you feel rich. You hear me? I was.

55:54Shannon Sharpe:But you know how much, Ocho. Make you feel rich. Go back and think about it. 1988, how much$1 ,000 was. $1 ,000 to a college kid. What?

56:04Chad Johnson:I was lying.

56:05Joe Johnson:You talking about 1988? Boy, you know what I could do with$1 ,000 a day? Not pay me.

56:19Shannon Sharpe:But, yeah, but look, hey, I'm telling you now, the Barnes Twins ain't backing down from no action now. But, hey, I don't know if anybody, ain't nobody doing really no street fights no more if they don't have to. Nah, nah. Hey, people firing you up or poking you. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no more fair, ain't it? It's a fight. What's up, man? You fight fair? Nah. It's a fight. Yeah. This ain't no, street fights ain't sanctioned. Bust over the head with a bottle. So, DeMarcus Cousins said the Pelicans need to relocate. It was five, it was times five, six years ago, especially in New Orleans.

57:01Shannon Sharpe:You go to the, there are 36 people there. Courtside was$25. Damn. Blow it up. Move on. There are no fans. Joe?

57:09Chad Johnson:Here on us. Man, you know what? He probably got a point, Uncle Ocho.

57:15Joe Johnson:No, we don't have no point, Joe. Come on, now. Don't do that.

57:18Chad Johnson:Where they going to go to?

57:19Shannon Sharpe:Because they looking at bringing a team to Seattle, and they looking at bringing a team to Vegas.

57:24Chad Johnson:They got a look. They need one in Vegas, boy. We. That thing will be jumping in Vegas. Y 'all already know it.

57:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, for sure. Because they already got football. They got a hockey. They got a WNBA. They got the A's that's relocated from Oakland that's coming here in about two years. And now they have an NBA. So they'll have the big five. I know basketball is going to be there soon.

57:50Chad Johnson:Yeah, for sure.

57:51Joe Johnson:Absolutely. I don't think it'd be the Pelicans. You know what they need to do. No, hell no.

57:55Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pelicans. They want a new team. They want somebody to spend about$3,$4,$5 billion.

58:00Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah. It'd be the expansion team. But for the Pelicans, right? And what the markets talk about with them, talk about the courtside seats for$25. Winning cures all. winning cures all, you know, and then the people of New Orleans, they deserve to have a sports team, whether it be the saints, whether it be the Pelicans, but to get the people to come out, you got to be able to win. You got to put the product on the court.

58:24Shannon Sharpe:You know, we had AD, he wanted out Zion doesn't want to be there. So it's hard. It's hard to keep a star. If you get a superstar and he doesn't want to stay.

58:34Chad Johnson:Yeah. You're right.

58:35Joe Johnson:You're right.

58:36Chad Johnson:because they got some decent talent over there, but it just ain't enough to be. No, no, no, no, no, no. Not with OKC.

58:44Shannon Sharpe:Them young boys, the oldest guy, 26, 27, they ain't going nowhere anytime soon. You got Wemby and that squad in San Antonio. They not going anywhere anytime soon. And now you got the Rockets with KD. You got Shingun. You got Thompson. Man, please. and guys just don't the guys don't want to be there I mean they come and they don't want to stay they want to be in bigger markets yeah Zion I guarantee you if put Zion on a lie detector test he would have rather gone three and gone to New York as opposed to going number one and going to New Orleans right I believe yeah and it is what it is. I don't know if Miss Benson is going to move it.

59:39Shannon Sharpe:I don't think she will. I don't. Probably not. Saints are there and you could.

59:47Chad Johnson:They own the Saints and Pelicans, right? My late husband. Yeah, they ain't moving that.

1:00:00Shannon Sharpe:All right, Joe, let me know what you think about this. The NBA announced this long-awaited plans to overhaul the All-Star Game, laying out how the new United States, once again, versus the world format will go and how teams will be formed. Go into a three-team format featuring eight-man rosters, two of which will be made up of American players and a third of international players. There will no longer be any position requirements. Wow. In the past, starters have been made up of two backcourt players and three frontcourt players, with the reserves being the same split plus two wildcards. This year, though, the starters will be formed of the top five vote getters regardless of positions.

1:00:42Shannon Sharpe:And the reserve will be the top seven regardless of positions. As a seven-time All-Star, Joe, what do you think about this?

1:00:51Chad Johnson:They trying to do whatever they can to spice the All-Star weekend back up to get people excited, to get people to tune in, obviously. But, man, if you're going to have all the four of the guys, what are we talking about, Luka, Shea, Giannis, Wimby, Jokic.

1:01:10Shannon Sharpe:Jokic, that's five. Those are your top five players right there. They all international. We're going to be in some trouble. you're talking about players are all international tell me an american player that's better than the five that just named i'll wait we're gonna be in some trouble but the problem is i don't care what you do if the guys don't want to play hard they're not going to play the guys don't want to play it

1:01:37Chad Johnson:anymore so you got to put in some incentives man you got to put some incentives in for them for them dudes to come out and compete at a high level yo these guys making 50 and 60 million

1:01:45Shannon Sharpe:and I got to incentivize it?

1:01:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, they spoiled. They spoiled. Absolutely. Yeah, they spoiled. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, you do.

1:01:56Shannon Sharpe:They've done a huge disservice. Kobe, I mean, Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan probably just shaking his head. That's probably why he don't even go no more. Michael Jordan didn't go to the All-Star game. Kobe rested, so ain't no way in hell Kobe Bryant would show up to that. Yeah. Ain't no way. the old guard like I said the same thing I said the same thing about the Pro Bowl I remember saying it I said they're going to cut this out yeah oh Joe you went with the Pro Bowl now we didn't tackle like it was a playoff game or a regular season game but we did tackle yeah

1:02:30Joe Johnson:and when that fourth quarter came

1:02:33Shannon Sharpe:now we get down to the nitty gritty because we trying to get that little 10 ,000 little 10 ,000 we need that that's how much we played the Willows got 10 ,000 The winners got 10, the losers got five. You brought five people, that's all your money. Hotel room and to feed them.

1:02:53Chad Johnson:Trust me, I already know.

1:02:55Shannon Sharpe:I already know. Man, Tyne took his family. Tyne had about lunch, meat, bread. Tyne went to the grocery store. Tyne said, uh-uh, I ain't doing this. Tyne, no, literally. Tyne had like two gallons of milk. Tyne, they had sandwiches. times uh-uh yeah that was quick I really wasn't taking nobody I was taking my coaches I would take my position coach and their wife so you know my position coach coached me he'd be going somewhere else I'd fly him in so my sister didn't want to go she had already gone like twice with my brother she's like nah I'm done with it I ain't want to go no more so most of the time I'm going by myself for it you know and then I take my coaches and the wives out to eat.

1:03:44Shannon Sharpe:And then basically it was just, you know, me hanging out with the guys. Yeah. But that, nah. You know, I sure wish I could go back and play again, Ocho. Yeah.

1:03:56Joe Johnson:But it ain't even Hawaii no more, so it ain't no fun. There's no excitement to making the Pro Bowl now. Because you make it and you're going right to Orlando. God, hell no. When you made the Pro Bowl back then, it was a privilege. It was a big deal, man.

1:04:11Shannon Sharpe:You go in Hawaii, you're going to get some pineapples. You're going to get the Mai Tai, the blue Hawaiians. You're going to eat them wings with that ranch dressing.

1:04:18Joe Johnson:Hey, all I remember, all I remember, I don't know if anybody in Hawaii might see this, the French toast at the Ihalani Hotel was second to none. I ain't had nothing. The closest thing I've had that was just as good as that is the French toast I ate in Montreal at a restaurant called La Avenue. those two places the best French toast I done ever had man they got some French toast

1:04:44Shannon Sharpe:at the Beverly Wilshire right there on right there on Wilshire Riddell Drive

1:04:52Chad Johnson:they got some French toast

1:04:54Shannon Sharpe:and they got a croissant croissant yeah and that French toast I seen a jack rabbit beat a German shepherd up just to get a bite of it

1:05:09Shannon Sharpe:hey that's over there with the rich folks ain't it yeah they got a place they got a place in um in new york with pancakes i want to go i forget the name of it but i see the french toast that rock be eating his uh chef be making this a french toast that's that bread this thick yeah i said damn is that a loaf of bread or what yeah i like french today y 'all ate like y 'all ate

1:05:33Chad Johnson:like that on game days?

1:05:35Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Game day, you know. But you got to realize, Joe, we played at 2 o 'clock. I would eat breakfast. I'd be eating breakfast at 9. I wouldn't eat again until after the game, which would be about 5.36.

1:05:46Chad Johnson:Yeah, Joe. Yeah, I'm saying,

1:05:47Shannon Sharpe:but it wouldn't be like nothing heavy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I would eat like French toast with bananas, egg whites, and oatmeal.

1:05:57Joe Johnson:Yeah. And Joe, I get my same McDonald's meal before every game, Even if we were playing on the road, I would have somebody bring it for me. Just hotcakes with sausage and a large orange juice. That's it. Real simple.

1:06:11Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But, yeah, it's not the same. Guys don't take it serious anymore. And, really, the only thing that's the same is the all-star game in baseball. Because how do you half-ass baseball? You got to throw 95. You know, you got to, you know, change up sliders, you know. And there's something on the line. I mean, whoever – it's still an all-star game. whoever wins the All-Star game, it gets home field. It gets baseball. That's still the same. And see, yeah, like I said, these guys, they didn't want to play anymore, even though they increased the money. It went to 25, and I think now it's probably like 50, 80 ,000 for the winners at the Pro Bowl.

1:06:47Shannon Sharpe:Damn.

1:06:49Chad Johnson:That's because, hey, look, All-Star weekend guys be – it's like a vacation for real, but they know they got to come out and play.

1:06:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:06:57Chad Johnson:You know what I mean?

1:06:58Shannon Sharpe:Yes. I used to watch – I used to look forward to it. Man, I watched Jordan and imagine them how they would go at it.

1:07:04Chad Johnson:Oh, man.

1:07:05Shannon Sharpe:Kobe. They used to play. Ocho, we used to play. We tackled. It wasn't no 45-41 ball game.

1:07:14Joe Johnson:Please. It was competitive. It was competitive. Listen, we go ahead.

1:07:21Chad Johnson:I used to watch it, man. They used to have a lot of festivities for the Pro Bowl and all that with the quarterback duels and all that. They still do all that, Ocho?

1:07:29Shannon Sharpe:Nah. No, I mean, they basically now they have like dodgeball. They have the quarterbacks trying to hit that moving target. They have some stuff, but. The fun stuff.

1:07:44Shannon Sharpe:I mean, look, we joked around at practice and stuff like that because, you know, I remember one year. As a matter of fact, I'm trying to think. That was a 96 season, but it was a 97 Pro Bowl Ocho. So we go out there like I think it's that Friday. So Junior, Junior say out, Cortez. Junior like, man, hey, let me – I want to play tight end. Okay, hell, here you go. So he go to tight end, I go to linebacker. Cortez, man, Tom Cobb looked around. Take it in. Well, nothing going to get done that day. But come game, hey, come Sunday.

1:08:22Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah, they finna play now.

1:08:25Shannon Sharpe:are we what yeah y 'all y 'all brucey tears oh that game close yeah brucey uh brucey and dt rest his soul yeah they getting out that ball they getting out that ball there was a day they ain't like that no more i'm sorry man time to change time for our final segment of the evening it's time for q and a

1:09:01Shannon Sharpe:What's up, Unc? I'm going to my first, oh, Aaron Owens. What's up, Unc? I'm going to my first NASCAR race next year at the Coca-Cola 600. Who's your favorite driver all time and your favorite NASCAR memory? Wow. My favorite.

1:09:17Chad Johnson:I like a lot.

1:09:19Shannon Sharpe:I like a lot of NASCAR guys. I grew up kind of watching Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt, But I would probably have to say my favorite is Jeff Gordon. I did an appearance with Jimmy Johnson, the 48 Lowe's car, but the 24 DuPont. But, you know, I grew up way back when they had Harry Gantt and all those guys, the Allison Boys, Cale Yarborough, Sterling Marlin, Austin Bill from Dawsonville. Probably my favorite memory when, who was it? I think it was Bobby Allison and Cale Yarborough wrecked. And I think it was Darryl Waltrip or Richard Petty that ended up winning. The 79 Daytona 500. They crashed each other.

1:10:09I think it was Bobby Allison because it was two brothers, Bobby and Donnie. But I think Bobby Allison and Cale Yarborough end up wrecking each other.

1:10:20Shannon Sharpe:and either Richard Petty or Darrell Waltrip ended up winning.

1:10:32Shannon Sharpe:Richard Petty drove Dodge the STP car. Uh-uh. No, 1979. Dirt Daytona.

1:10:44Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Man, Ash, you don't remember that?

1:10:49Joe Johnson:I remember that.

1:10:50Chad Johnson:I was there.

1:10:53Shannon Sharpe:Dang, Ash, I thought you remember that. I'm fine at 17. But I think it was 79. Tino Davis said, Payne needs to apologize from everybody that was bashing him, and AJ's situation seemed personal and mental. I hope he's okay. Hey, Tino, you heard me apologize. I owe the man an apology. I owe the man one to Javon Kinlaw, too. And I gave it to him. because I believe as loud as I was and said that he was wrong, I should be just as loud and apologize because that man, he said it, they said it, that he just didn't swing like he said. He DM'd me and sent me the video also. So... That was 79, wasn't it?

1:11:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it was Daytona 500, 1979.

1:11:49Shannon Sharpe:Type in 1979, Daytona.

1:11:54Shannon Sharpe:I think AJ's fine. I think AJ wants to contribute. He wants the offense to know, and he knows if they give him an opportunity, he can help the offense get out of the funk that they're in. And they definitely wouldn't be having as many three and outs as they have.

1:12:15It was Donnie.

1:12:21Shannon Sharpe:And who ended up winning? Was it Kel Yarbrough or Richard Petty? No, I mean, was it Darrell Waltrip or Richard Petty that ended up winning?

1:12:33Richard Petty.

1:12:35Shannon Sharpe:See? You know what I'm saying, Ochoa? Back then in the South, NASCAR was huge. Now, it's still big in the South, but not like it was. because you go to every convenience store, Joe. You remember they used to have hats. They had handkerchiefs. They had jackets. All that stuff. All your favorite drivers. You can get Terry Labonte. You can get Bill Elliott. You can get any – Harry Gantt, the old Skull Bandit. Yeah. Silver Fox, Sterling Pearson. Oh, man. Oh, I had me some – I ain't going to lie to you. I had me some – I had me some handkerchiefs. What? Hey, that was the whole thing. Hey, hey. And I wasn't the only brother that had that either.

1:13:18Shannon Sharpe:Just so y 'all know. Triple X come Saturday. Keep your hands and your feet to yourself unless someone else owes you$5 ,900. Sit down there, don't you? You're right. You're right.

1:13:34Shannon Sharpe:GK Knox, 171. Greg, hey, can y 'all wish my wife, Rhea, a very special happy birthday? We absolutely would love to. Real Greg wants to wish you a very happy birthday and us at the nightcap family want to wish you a happy birthday. Hopefully you had a great day. Did something really, really fun. Went to a great, got you a great meal. I hope he got hope Greg bought you a nice gift. But happy birthday. Real. Donovan D. Oh, Joe. Y 'all feel about panic. Do y 'all think he is fundamentals like footwork and decision making or could be play call to be better? Big fan. Look, he a young player. Ocho, I mean, man, y 'all really think everybody's just supposed to come out and be like Patrick Mahomes, huh?

1:14:16Shannon Sharpe:No.

1:14:17Joe Johnson:I mean, listen. They do, Ocho. That's the problem. I think players like Mahomes, Burrow, Brady, Peyton Manning, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, they've spoiled the fans. They've spoiled the fans, especially fans of certain teams where you see quarterbacks that go early and you're expecting that type of play from them, you know, this early in their career. It's just not going to happen. And at some point, there has to be a maturation process where they may get to that, but there's a chance that they don't. They don't become elite. They don't become a tier one quarterback. And they just become just good.

1:14:51Joe Johnson:And I think Penix Jr. is going to be okay. I think he has to be careful about what he says in the media and chooses words wisely. I think he's going to be all right.

1:15:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Look, it's the same. in the 90s, there were not 15 great tier one quarterbacks. In the 2000s, there weren't 15 tier one great quarterbacks. It's never going to be that many. There's levels to this. Yeah. I know, look, I understand that everybody wants their quarterback to look like a Mahomes or one of these tier one quarterbacks, one of the greats of all Aaron Rodgers. That ain't happening, guys. Everybody ain't going to have that. Just like everybody ain't going to have a Kobe or a LeBron or Jokic or Bird to play for their organization. Ain't gonna happen. Yeah. Brian N, Detroit basketball, Leportier, Cigars.

1:15:49Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Jones, wait a minute, I thought you wouldn't be listening to non-football players and people who get paid to study the game. Why do you care about their opinions? I thought I answered that.

1:16:04Aaron, I tweet.

1:16:07Shannon Sharpe:My thing is, I don't care if you didn't play it. I said, if you Mina Kimes and study film, have at it. But I think I know things that Mina don't for the simple fact I played and I look at the game a little different. But why do you care what I say to you? It seems like, because I ain't jumping on your timeline. You ain't jumping on mine. I ain't never jumped on nobody timeline and say you don't know what you talking about. That's what y 'all do. So clearly y 'all know what I'm talking about. Ben, oh, it's your ISO. Can I get a birthday shout out? Turned 38 on November 12th. Ben, happy belated birthday.

1:16:51Chad Johnson:Happy belated birthday, bro.

1:16:52Shannon Sharpe:38? Happy birthday, twin. Well, I remember when I was 38. Woo!

1:16:58Chad Johnson:Well, you, hey, young, vibrant.

1:17:04oh

1:17:04Shannon Sharpe:Ocho Yeah, me a yeah man from 25 feet away. I'll take a tie and just swing it. You know I peeing it from 25 feet away Do all that at 38.

1:17:21Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah At 38 right I ain't lost magic yet

1:17:30Shannon Sharpe:a little something, you know, I still love, you know, to calm you up a little something, maybe once in a while, you know what I'm saying,

1:17:36Joe Johnson:don't you know what I'm saying?

1:17:38Shannon Sharpe:Not like a used to, though. I ain't Steph Curry, I ain't gonna make 102 in a row, but you know what I'm saying? I might hit a good, you know, Joe, good day, I might get, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I get three in a row. Yeah, hey, I'm just saying, don't try to block my shot, but I can make three in a row. Raymond Fountain. is that a rainbow fountain uh nfc runs through dallas it run through who ain't nobody going through dallas they go to san francisco whoa whoa whoa nfc keep a y 'all gonna be watching

1:18:12Joe Johnson:us in february do what ain't somebody he's talking about the pro bowl oh in any dallas

1:18:20Chad Johnson:y 'all got piped down a little bit pipe down a little bit pipe down pipe down yo and joe

1:18:25Joe Johnson:After all these years at this point, you should understand that.

1:18:28Chad Johnson:Ocho. Ocho. I'm a real fan, bro.

1:18:33Joe Johnson:Yeah, listen. So listen. And part of being a real fan is not being delusional, Joe. Hey, listen.

1:18:39Chad Johnson:I'm not being delusional. I'm not being delusional. I understand what's going on. I understand what's going on. But listen, I ain't going to just leave because we in a little turmoil. You hear what I'm talking about?

1:18:49Shannon Sharpe:No, you can stay there. A little. We want you to stay there, Joe.

1:18:53Joe Johnson:Joe, y 'all been in turmoil for 35 years, Joe. Joe? Chill out, chill out.

1:18:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Joe, do you know? Hello. Joe, do you know what it's like for y 'all to win the Super Bowl? How old were you when they won the Super Bowl, Joe? Five?

1:19:05Chad Johnson:Nah, probably about 10. When they win, what last time was it?

1:19:09Shannon Sharpe:95?

1:19:10Chad Johnson:Yeah, about 14. Damn, Joe. Yeah, I'm 14. Man, you get a pack of cigarettes for a dollar back then. Man, what? You can go to the store with a dollar and get plenty of stuff. Yeah.

1:19:25Shannon Sharpe:I remember when cigarettes were 50 cents in a pack.

1:19:30Shannon Sharpe:I do too, my mama. I know, but hey, but I tell you what, them old people, they didn't want to get out of the - Hey, you going to the store, son? Yes. Hey, bring me a pack of cigarettes. You keep, give me that better, man, please. Hey, all y 'all do, hey, what you want? Winston, Biss and Edges, Virginia Slims? Them Marvel, you with the Marvel Slims? All bro. Yeah, Ocho, I gotta get that. and I remember everybody saying even my mama boy if cigarettes ever go to a dollar pack I'm done today the day they go to a dollar pack cigarettes buy$6 $7 a pack right now and people still smoking I got my mama to quit I bet my mama$25 ,000 she couldn't quit my mama said you gonna give me$25 ,000 if I can't quit smoking my mama has been smoking since she was probably 12 or 13 because my granny's sister Annie Mae used to smoke.

1:20:25Shannon Sharpe:And my mom was like, hey, give me a cigarette, Annie Mae. You better not tell Mary I give you a cigarette. Well, if you don't give me one, I'm going to tell her you did. Yeah, yeah. So my mom had been smoking since she was like 12 or 13. I said, mama, I bet you$25 ,000 you can't quit. My mama looked. She had just bought two cartons. My mama like,

1:20:52Shannon Sharpe:she said I'm gonna smoke these two and I'm done that was 25 my mama quit cold turkey ain't no patch ain't no weenie my mama smoked them two cartons she said baby I ain't I ain't had no I ain't smoked no more

1:21:09Chad Johnson:you gotta be strong will to do that

1:21:11Shannon Sharpe:boy looking for money boy to get money for my baby man please my mama walked from Chicago

1:21:24Shannon Sharpe:I was like I thought about it I was like hold on my mom just bought you a car that should be good enough she said no that wasn't a deal baby Andy Lopez if PS2 don't play how you feel about my homeboy he's not gonna play they're gonna reevaluate him in four weeks so hold on it's$18 a pack you mean a carton how much cigarettes a pack

1:21:56Shannon Sharpe:Chad how much cigarettes a pack

1:22:01what

1:22:02Chad Johnson:how much Johnny $8

1:22:05Shannon Sharpe:that ain't bad you said it was$7 that's about right yeah I remember I remember there was$0.50 a pack yeah and people everybody said if they ever go to$1 they gonna quit then they said if they go to$1.50 they gonna quit They go to$2 to go quit. It seems like the price keep going up and their people still smoking. That ain't looking. That's why you got people out here hustling them cigarettes. The$18 pack in New York City. Shit. The whole carton? No, a pack. Not the carton. A pack. A little pack? Yes. But, you know, they be selling a lot of loose cigarettes in New York.

1:22:44Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:22:45Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Andy says, if PS2 doesn't play, how do you feel against my homeboy? Same. We got this. We're going to get this dub. Oh, Joe, you know I have my Broncos shirt on Sunday, right? Uh-huh. Okay. Just so you know.

1:23:02Chad Johnson:He feeling good about them Broncos, ain't he?

1:23:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, Joe, we did a number on y 'all, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't got to talk about it. Hey, we did a number on them, too. They only scored three points.

1:23:20Shannon Sharpe:she's old she's old flex Devontae Smith is on pace for a career year and we're talking about AJ Brown you know our GM is AJ is under contract to a 29 you want him pay the price yeah

1:23:41Shannon Sharpe:well AJ Devontae don't really do a whole lot of talking.

1:23:46Joe Johnson:And he expressed his displeasure as well about two weeks ago. Oh, he has? Oh, he has? Yeah. For sure.

1:23:54Shannon Sharpe:Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, tell him, Joe, how about them cowboys, Doc? You can't say foot or ball. You been talking about you a psychic and you know you getting your stuff in early and they ain't won a game since, Doc. And you better if not, Doc, you better not be. Y 'all better not lose on Thanksgiving. Uh-oh. Y 'all know y 'all got Kansas City. On

1:24:20Chad Johnson:Thanksgiving? Yep.

1:24:26Chad Johnson:Yeah, Doc, I'm with you, baby. How about them Cowboys? Okay.

1:24:30Shannon Sharpe:El Prey, Ocho, the camera you got in Spain is clean. Good luck. Are you planning on running with the Bulls?

1:24:37Joe Johnson:Uncle Ocho Adventures. Hey, listen. I'm glad you said that, right? Because that's that's certain stuff we can tap into running with the bulls. I don't have to do it. I can do it. I think they need to do. There need to be some thing, Joe and that we need to do in that space of creating content outside of what we already do. Cause everybody do this and you know, we, we want the best at it, but it's a lane that hasn't been touched. You hear me? And you could be like my coach and we're, we could almost be stuff that's semi dangerous. And I'm, I'm willing to take that chance. You hear me? Okay. You know, so we, we need to coach your own.

1:25:12Joe Johnson:Yeah. We need to make sure we fine tune and stay into that lane that nobody's touched. Okay? Because the world will appreciate that. Going hunting. You know, me and you swimming with orcas in the wild. Who said I wouldn't do that? See, that's what I'm talking about. It has to be things you don't want to do that you're willing to try. Swimming with orcas though? Yeah, in the wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't attack humans.

1:25:41Chad Johnson:I don't got Unk doing that.

1:25:43Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:25:44Chad Johnson:No, you don't.

1:25:44Joe Johnson:You're right. Unk ain't got Unk doing that. We got to do things we normally wouldn't do, things that are out of our character. That's what people want to see. Okay. Man, that's like life or death. Hey, Joe, that's a good thing about it. So if you die, you went out the right way. Great content. No, I didn't.

1:26:03Shannon Sharpe:I got a different idea how I want to go out. It's just me talking, though. Finley Talk with PA. AJ said, not just what Philly Media said, but Devontae Saquon Lane Johnson said it's predictable as well. AJ isn't schemed open like Chase. PS2 said he gets open, and that's what makes him great. Well, y 'all need to take that up with the coordinator, with the Eagles. Why y 'all get mad at me and Ocho and Joe? I ain't calling no plays.

1:26:34Shannon Sharpe:Lanny Ray, hey, guys. Been listening to you guys for an hour, so I could see the aura Boralus. Oh, you could. I couldn't see it. It was amazing. What's the most amazing view you've seen when traveling? The most amazing view. I saw Haley's Comet back in 1986. You didn't see that. I did. I did. I did. And I don't know. It all happens every between 75 and 77 and a half years. So I don't know if I'm going to be around to see it, but I saw it. You should be very fortunate if you see two of them, because your damn show won't see three. You should be very, very fortunate if you see two.

1:27:21Chad Johnson:I don't know if this is amazing.

1:27:22Shannon Sharpe:Well, that might go to maybe catch that old second one.

1:27:25Chad Johnson:Hey, I don't know if this is amazing, but I was on a plane doing 9-11. Were you? Did they order you down?

1:27:34Shannon Sharpe:Because they took this the first time in history that George W., President Bush, ordered all planes out of the sky.

1:27:41Chad Johnson:I was headed to Boston. I flew from Little Rock, Arkansas to Atlanta, Georgia to connect. When I got to Atlanta, we got on the flight. We was taxiing out to get ready to take off, and he pulled back in. He was like, we got an emergency. We got to pull back in. It's an emergency. And they told all of us to evacuate off the plane. when we got off the plane, the first plane had already done hit.

1:28:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:28:07Chad Johnson:So we looking at it on TV, and it didn't look real to me at first. You know what I mean? But I was headed to Boston. Yeah, that was my rookie year. Damn. Wow.

1:28:17Shannon Sharpe:I remember it like yesterday.

1:28:19Chad Johnson:Ooh. I got stuck here in the A for a week.

1:28:23Shannon Sharpe:Not a bad place to be stuck. No, considering where I went. It wasn't. Jamal the singer, your aunt. catchphrase show up every day in my life. My wife talking about not tonight. I look there and say the hell you say?

1:28:42Shannon Sharpe:Hey, stall out Jamal, man. She probably had a hard day at work. She probably came home and done cooked the meal. Hey, give her a break, man. Say, baby, I'll catch you tomorrow. Hell you say? Ricky, what up gang? Fly it out to the DR in the morning. what's y 'all travel plans in 2026 with Unk Free? Out like a scout on a new route. Hey. What's our plans, Unk? Where we going?

1:29:15Joe Johnson:I don't know. It's on you, Unk. It's on you. You tell me you want to go. You know, me and the missus, we going to travel. You know, you want to bring your little partner with you. You know, we can do, you know, a little double date. Joe, you want to come along too? You know.

1:29:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I can't go nowhere just me and you. I got to have Joe because somebody got to be the voice of reason. They got to be the voice of reason. Ain't no reasoning with you. I'm the voice of reason, huh? No, you're not no voice of nothing. You the voice of some bulljive.

1:29:42Joe Johnson:I'm the best person to travel with. It don't matter where we go. We come to Spain, I can speak Spanish. We go to France, I can speak French. You know? I mean, I'm the person...

1:29:51Shannon Sharpe:No, French fries and French toast is not speaking French. No, I... Croissant, no. Grey Poupon, nothing.

1:30:00Joe Johnson:i speak i speak french i speak spanish like i'm the person i speak russian tell me something in what miyama who miyama miyama what okay i'm asking you uh it's ocho but you're not saying it right miyama miyama vicente my name is vincent no your name is not Vincent your name is Shannon

1:30:29Shannon Sharpe:no but my Spanish name when I took Spanish because everybody else had already taken I had to get a name everybody had taken Gary was Greg and Steven

1:30:43Joe Johnson:so I said you know what me y 'all gonna be

1:30:46Shannon Sharpe:Sente

1:30:46Joe Johnson:is that what you when you travel abroad do you tell women I mean people your name is Vincent

1:30:53Shannon Sharpe:no okay okay i don't really travel i haven't been abroad uh i actually i've been to uh where did i go i went to italy hey yeah hey that hey you know i was in rome i was in rome went to florence on that train countryside you know what i'm saying hey hey you know you know i would hey you know i was getting ready to fly to italy tomorrow i was gonna go to the wrong one i

1:31:17Joe Johnson:want to i want to i want to show my baby i want to show her the coliseum i was like you know what let me lock in, let me stay focused. You should have taken to LA, downtown. You can see Coliseum.

1:31:27Chad Johnson:OU.

1:31:30Joe Johnson:Hey, but listen. I know we got nightcap tomorrow, right? Yes. See how focused I am? See how dedicated I am? I appreciate that. We're not going to go to Rome. We're going to wait until the season is over, football season is over, and we got a little more time to enjoy the city instead of going there for a few hours and fly back to the state. So I'm flying back to Miami And my flight even in what? Four hours? Five hours You went over there with a little bit of time? Yeah, I flew in this morning I flew in last night I did what I needed to do today And I'm back in Miami tomorrow Well, you know, we doing something Yeah, yeah Hey, Joe Hey, Saucy Saucy said Go ahead, what you gonna say, Joe?

1:32:17Joe Johnson:I was telling Joe, in and out How much we talking?

1:32:21Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. I'm going to say, yeah, you know, y 'all got to have somebody with y 'all who got some sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:32:28Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Because Ocho going to try to talk me into something. And so Joe can break the tie.

1:32:33Joe Johnson:I got, nah. Listen, you got to understand, whatever I try to talk you into, it'd be nothing like Nico Harrison and that bullshit. All right.

1:32:41Chad Johnson:All right.

1:32:42Joe Johnson:It's going to be nothing like that. All right. Man, you have him try to scale up my subias. Now, see? Now that's great content.

1:32:52Shannon Sharpe:Saucy say, so we don't need LeBron, Laker fans. Awful tonight. Oh, yeah. So y 'all want to trade LeBron, huh? Mm-hmm. Well, Laker, what's up? What did LeBron hate of that? Y 'all lost? What? OKC beat the brakes off of.

1:33:09Joe Johnson:By what? By what?

1:33:11Chad Johnson:By like 30?

1:33:12Joe Johnson:By like 30? 30 what? Pounce.

1:33:15Shannon Sharpe:God. It was a whole lot to a few. Yeah. David Mantiano, Eagles OC, Kevin Petula, is going to destroy us. I agree with AJ.

1:33:27Joe Johnson:Hey, can you imagine everybody can't have a Ben Johnson calling plays? Everybody can't have a Sean McVay.

1:33:34Shannon Sharpe:Kyle Shanahan or McVay.

1:33:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, you can't. Andy Reid. Yeah, sure. The creativity is different.

1:33:45Shannon Sharpe:CB started. Shakur said CBB started the early prediction if any UConn we taking our title back we building football program up too yeah y 'all good in basketball now but I don't know if UConn gonna ever be able to beat those blue bloods bro talking about football yeah yeah to beat the Georgias and the Ohio States and the Bamas and I don't see that

1:34:11Joe Johnson:you gotta bring a whole lot you gotta bring a whole lot of boys in there for that

1:34:21Shannon Sharpe:Fletch I catched up on the show the other night when you said you wish coach would stop feeding y 'all you almost had me throw up all my catered food away because we're doing so bad

1:34:30Joe Johnson:hey that was funny hey that was funny that was funny

1:34:38Shannon Sharpe:I'm miserable when I'm losing I'm miserable I want everybody else to be miserable too

1:34:45Shannon Sharpe:Oh, did you see the new format at the women's 100 meters at the 2020 Olympics? All three rounds the same day. I did see that. It's opening day. Man, that's asking an awful lot of these women.

1:34:57Shannon Sharpe:I mean, three rounds in one day. Normally they have maybe two rounds, and then they have the finals the next day. Or they won one round and two rounds the next day. But that's an awful lot. I hope they space it out and give them enough time to recover. So they should have a space out, you know, morning, then noon, and then at night. Yeah. I mean, the women taking over. They might end up having Cid race. Whatever Cid running, that's going to be the signature race. Be more Kyle. In 2018 draft, Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, and Josh Allen, the best quarterback in the draft class in NFL history.

1:35:37Shannon Sharpe:You can make that case. 83 might have something to say about that now. You know Elway and Marino was in the same draft with Jim Kelly.

1:35:44Chad Johnson:Huh.

1:35:48Shannon Sharpe:Jim Kelly went to four Super Bowls. He didn't win any. John went to five, won two. Marino went to one. So, when it's all said and done, you might have a compelling argument, young man, because Lamar hasn't been to the Super Bowl. Well, y 'all got to get to some Super Bowls now. J underscore feels 227 since Scatterboo is hurt would there ever be another Mike Allstock type player

1:36:16Joe Johnson:you know it would be hard too because they don't even team the way the NFL is now with the way offenses are most teams don't even use a full back to that point nah they block it he was the perfect fit for for the Giants I think the 49ers also use the fullback a little bit. Use check.

1:36:38Shannon Sharpe:Kyle, use check.

1:36:39Joe Johnson:There's one more team.

1:36:41Shannon Sharpe:The Ravens, Ricard.

1:36:42Joe Johnson:The Ravens, another team. Use a fullback in that pattern.

1:36:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. I'm your favorite Unc Shannon Sharp. my partner and co-host. That's Liberty City's own. That is Bengals Ring of Fame honorary, a former Pro Bowl and all pro. That's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three joins us every Wednesday night. Little Rock, Arkansas, a native. Little Rock University of Arkansas alum. Seven-time All-Star, Iso Joe Johnson.

1:37:26Shannon Sharpe:Please make sure you check out Shaved by Laportier. Just head over to laportiercognac.com to grab you a bottle if you cannot find it. in a state or city near you. Try it. Taste it for yourself. I guarantee you, you'll know what I know. We have the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Please drive, drink responsibly, and stay safe. Make sure you check out my media company page on all of its platforms, Shea Shea Media and my clothing company, 84, with 84 being spelled in the chat. The link is pinned in the chat. We had a great show tonight. Derek Stingley Jr. Thank you for joining us.

1:38:04Shannon Sharpe:The all-pro cornerback from the Texans, the Houston Texans. And Casey Conception joined us. He was outstanding wide receiver from Texas A &M, the number three Texas A &M Aggies. We want to thank those guys for joining us this afternoon. We want to thank you for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after the game. The Jets and the Patriots.

1:38:26Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:38:27Shannon Sharpe:I'll be back in the States tomorrow. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after the game.

1:38:35Chad Johnson:Peace out.

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