Nightcap Hour 2: Chet Holmgren went MIA + Bettor WINS $1.7 MILLION + Knicks x Spurs FINALS REMATCH + Cam Boozer NUMBER 1 Pick?! + Suns BEAT Sparks + Haley Van Lith Signs to Suns Development Roster

31 May 2026 · 1 h 35 min · 34 chapters

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In short

The hosts discuss NBA Finals matchup Knicks vs Spurs (a 1999/2014-era rematch), ticket pricing “get-in” costs, and betting outcomes. They also debate injury news around Knicks center Mitchell Robinson’s broken pinky, speculate on how it happened, and preview player matchups. Later segments shift to NBA draft analytics for Cam Boozer and other top prospects, plus WNBA updates including Suns beating Sparks and Haley Van Lith signing to a Connecticut Sun development roster. They close with broader talk about expectations/performing under pressure (practice vs games).

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript; it’s a host panel (Uncle Ocho and Joe) with no external guests.

Key claims

  • A $2,500 parlay ticket tied to Spurs winning Game 7 paid $1.7 million; cashout would have been $612k.
  • Knicks ticket “get-in” prices reportedly exceed Super Bowl get-in pricing; Spurs/Knicks are driving extreme demand.
  • Mitchell Robinson’s pinky injury will be corrected via procedure; he’s hoped to play Game 1.
  • Draft Express/analytics models rate Cam Boozer as #1; hosts prefer AJ DeBanza for #1 overall, projecting ~20+ points and two-way potential.
  • Suns beat Sparks 84-81; Van Lith signs to a development contract with limits (max 12 games).

Notable examples

  • Knicks return to Finals after 27 years; Spurs after 10+ years.
  • Mentioned WNBA stat: Anissa Morrow 17 points/14 rebounds; WNBA double-double leader.

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Chapters

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Massive Betting Win Celebrated

1:28 to 2:25

A bettor turns $2,500 into $1.7 million after a successful wager.

“Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts.”

Massive Betting Win Celebrated

2:29 to 2:41

A bettor turns $2,500 into $1.7 million after a successful wager.

“A better turned$2 ,500 into$1.7 million today after the Spurs won Game 7.”

Knicks vs. Spurs NBA Finals Rematch

2:41 to 6:20

Discussing the NBA Finals rematch between the Knicks and Spurs.

“Now, the cash payout, had he taken it early, was$612 ,000.”

Ticket Prices & Fan Experience

6:20 to 14:00

Exploring the high ticket prices and the dedication of fans attending the finals.

“Hey, ain't this the World Cup rematch too?”

Super Bowl Tickets and Pricing Dynamics

14:00 to 18:00

Discussion about ticket pricing dynamics for the Super Bowl and implications for fans.

“So even though you get right of first refusal to it, but the NFL got it.”

Knicks vs. Spurs Finals Anticipation

18:00 to 19:10

Excitement builds for the Knicks and Spurs Finals matchup and its historical context.

“I seen the man on here 30 minutes before we supposed to get on.”

Mitchell Robinson's Injury Speculations

19:10 to 21:00

Speculation around Mitchell Robinson's injury and potential causes.

“people like Wimby no matter how the Thunder people look at the Thunder they're already over the Thunder they were cute and cuddly oh yeah the Thunder they're like, nah, we tired of them.”

Cam Boozer's Draft Prospects

21:00 to 24:50

Insights on Cam Boozer's potential as the number one pick in the draft.

“After a follow-up question to Mike Brown about how Robinson actually got hurt, Nick's media relations stepped in to say, we're not going to get into specifics.”

Cam Boozer's Draft Prospects

25:45 to 26:49

Insights on Cam Boozer's potential as the number one pick in the draft.

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Cam Boozer's Draft Prospects

26:54 to 28:09

Insights on Cam Boozer's potential as the number one pick in the draft.

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Debate on College Player A.J. DeBanza

28:28 to 29:27

Discussion on A.J. DeBanza's skills and potential in the NBA.

“But hell, if I'm the GM and I got my money on it, I'm taking AJ first, bro.”

Comparing College Players: Boozer and DeBanza

29:28 to 31:28

Analyzing the different backgrounds and talents of Boozer and DeBanza.

“It shows you exactly what you're getting.”

Michael Beasley and NBA Transition Challenges

31:29 to 37:20

Discussing Michael Beasley's college success and struggles in the NBA.

“so you couldn't give him just your undivided attention because those other guys were pretty good players also.”

Michael Beasley and NBA Transition Challenges

40:38 to 42:05

Discussing Michael Beasley's college success and struggles in the NBA.

“Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem?”

Michael Beasley and NBA Transition Challenges

42:15 to 42:36

Discussing Michael Beasley's college success and struggles in the NBA.

NBA MVPs: A Historical Overview

43:37 to 46:02

Discussion about past NBA MVP winners and their impact on the league.

“And then LeBron won it after Dirk, right?”

WNBA Highlights: Performance and Development

46:03 to 48:25

Analysis of recent WNBA games and player performances, focusing on Van Lith.

“That's why I mean, bro, I feel like I'm paying pretty good attention to the women's game.”

The Importance of Practice and Professionalism

48:26 to 50:54

Exploration of the challenges faced by practice squad players and their career paths.

“Not just where you was drafted at or, oh, I'm supposed to be this and.”

Expectations vs. Reality in Sports

50:55 to 56:00

Discussion on the difference between practice performance and game-day expectations.

“they probably would have had a real chance.”

Football Fundamentals and Lessons

56:00 to 1:08:20

Learn about key football strategies and the importance of preparation and focus for players.

“We got five linemen and we got a back that can block six.”

Viewer Questions and Game Insights

1:08:20 to 1:10:00

Hear viewer questions and discussions about recent basketball performances and player expectations.

“All right, time for our final segment of the evening.”

Chet Holmgren's Performance Analysis

1:10:00 to 1:14:48

A deep dive into Chet Holmgren's recent game performance and its implications.

“Don't be surprised OKC get that big center from Michigan.”

Playoff Predictions and Predictions

1:14:48 to 1:19:50

Discussion on playoff predictions, team performances, and fan reactions.

“I told you how we was going to be in the Western Conference Finals.”

Future of NBA Players

1:19:50 to 1:24:00

Speculation on player trades, future performances, and fan expectations.

“You've been gloating and bragging since we got on.”

Breaking News: Chet Holmgren Trade

1:24:00 to 1:25:05

Discussion about the surprising trade of Chet Holmgren to the Bucks.

“Breaking news, the first postseason trade ever.”

Analyzing Player Performances

1:25:05 to 1:26:46

Debate on various NBA players' performances and future prospects.

“Because it seems as though he cared too much for the game, and that's a good thing.”

The Evolution of NBA Strategy

1:26:46 to 1:28:39

Exploration of how NBA strategy has shifted towards three-point shooting.

“I guarantee he gets traded this offseason for Giannis.”

Chet Holmgren's Future and Impact

1:28:39 to 1:31:09

Debate on Chet Holmgren's future in the league and team dynamics.

“If Ocho tear y 'all grass will turn to cheese, start hustling crackers.”

Spurs Victory and Player Evaluations

1:31:09 to 1:35:24

Discussion on the Spurs' recent victory and evaluations of key players.

“It's time to learn some Chinese Kung Fu.”

Personal Anecdotes and Social Commentary

1:35:24 to 1:38:00

Conversations about personal experiences and social dynamics within sports.

“Chance and y 'all, I'm going to give you another one because your time up here.”

Chet Holmgren Speculation and Humor

1:38:00 to 1:40:10

The hosts engage in lighthearted banter and jokes while discussing player speculation.

“You holding them big boy conversations, man.”

San Antonio Spurs' Impressive Victory

1:40:10 to 1:42:05

Discussion on the San Antonio Spurs' unexpected victory in a game seven against the defending champions.

“Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.”

Podcast Closing Remarks

1:42:05 to 1:42:34

The hosts thank the audience and invite them to subscribe while recapping the upcoming NBA Finals.

“Y 'all know the Silky Smooth shooting guard from the Atlanta Hawks, a seven-time NBA All-Star, and he was a Big 3 MVP, led the league, and scored in his first year.”

Podcast Closing Remarks

1:42:45 to 1:45:05

The hosts thank the audience and invite them to subscribe while recapping the upcoming NBA Finals.

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2:30Shannon Sharpe:Check this out, guys. What you got? A better turned$2 ,500 into$1.7 million today after the Spurs won Game 7. The four-leg future of Parley placed on February 14th had already cashed on. The U.S. men's hockey team win gold. Michigan win the NCAA tournament. The Knicks win the Eastern Conference. Now, the cash payout, had he taken it early, was$612 ,000.

2:58Chad Johnson:but the better said nah I'm gonna let it ride damn Joe what would you have done Ocho you bet

3:05Shannon Sharpe:2 ,500 you got 612 if you take it right now you letting it ride or you cashing out I'm gonna let it ride I'm gonna let it ride because if I got enough if I got enough to be able to bet like

3:18Chad Johnson:that I might only bet 2 ,500 he only bet 2 ,500 wait only wait everybody ain't got 2 ,500 man Ocho

3:25Shannon Sharpe:stop you know damn well somebody bet they bet 25 look at the odds oh yeah the hockey team had to win gold yeah michigan had to win the tournament the knicks had to win the east and the spurs and the spurs had to win uh western conference so you take you taking it out you pulling out i ain't gonna even lie to y 'all yeah so now joe we already know ocho ain't pulling out he got eight kids yeah i don't know about that bad don't even pull out a parking spot he's sitting there all day Stop it. You don't know damn well Ocho ain't pulling out. You got to understand that. You know, all that was premeditated.

3:58This was a plan, but go ahead.

4:00Chad Johnson:Bro, listen. I ain't going to lie to y 'all. I'm going to keep it real. I'm probably going to take mine up. If I spent$2 ,500 in$2 ,500, you can cash me out for$600 ,000. Shh. Man. What I'm being greedy for? What I'm being greedy for, fellas? You right, Joe. You right. You staying in there? Keep it 100. Oh, hell no.

4:25Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I got to pay longer, hard.

4:27Chad Johnson:Man, come on.

4:30Shannon Sharpe:They telling you, you like, they telling - Joe, you going to be sick. They win that game, you took that, you say, man, I left a million dollars on the table.

4:40Chad Johnson:Uncle, I paid$2 ,500 for the damn ticket, and you mean telling me I get 600K? I ain't going to be that pissed off. I ain't going to lie to y 'all. See, I ain't gonna be greedy. I'm gonna take what I can get.

4:55Shannon Sharpe:Well, I know you're gonna take it because you picked the Thunder, so you gotta take it. I probably would've taken it too now that I already picked the Thunder. But here's the thing. You and I, we wouldn't have picked the Thunder because we had already cashed the B out of it, already made the bet $2 ,500 that the Spurs was gonna win.

5:12Chad Johnson:Hey, boy, listen. What you finna say, Ocho? What you gonna do? I mean, I i don't i ain't got my betting slip on but you know you know i've been you know i've been betting to pay all these series huh you weren't you right i did i'm gonna show you my slip come on man hey

5:31Shannon Sharpe:hey joe man don't nobody want no slip but grandma's and i know you ain't got nothing right i want me

5:36Chad Johnson:a cool 20 25 grand did you really yeah i bet that wait i'm wait i'm not allowed to say that because But yeah, I can't say the name. Okay, all right, all right. Same left. I can't mess up my bag, man. Okay, okay.

5:53Shannon Sharpe:Knicks Spurs, 1999 rematch. New York Knicks returned to the NBA Finals for the first time since 1999. The San Antonio Spurs returned to the NBA Finals for the first time since 2014. Get in price for the NBA Finals. Game one is$2 ,021 in San Antonio. Game two is$2 ,447. In game three at the Knicks is$4 ,201. That's the get-in price.

6:20Chad Johnson:That's the month.

6:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's in the rafters here. Game four,$3 ,788. That's get-in. You up there. In game five, San Antonio is$3 ,070. In game six in New York is$5 ,244.

6:38Chad Johnson:Hey, ain't this the World Cup rematch too? Which one? Ain't this the cup rematch? Didn't they play each other? Yeah, they played the NBA Cup. The NBA Cup.

6:49Shannon Sharpe:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Hey, who won the NBA Cup? The Knicks. The Knicks. Okay. I think, you know what? They did win. Both teams are better. The question is, the Knicks bench is going to be called on, and they're going to need to come up. because you see the Spurs bench, what they're capable of. Yeah. Kelton Johnson, Carter Bryant, Dylan Harper, Cornette. I think Cornette will have a little easier time, probably dealing with Mitchell Robinson. You're going to have to keep him out the glass because Mitch is looking to get them second-chance points. Yeah. But this is going to be a great defensive matchup because we know OG can defend.

7:31Shannon Sharpe:We know Mikael Bridges can defend. Hart. so it's going to be some kind of fun.

7:41Chad Johnson:It's going to be a good one. It's going to be a good one, fellas. You got it. Y 'all know Wimby keeping receipts now. He was pissed off that Shea got the MVP. Absolutely. He was pissed off. If you don't think he pissed off that the Knicks beat them in the NBA Cup and he coming for revenge,

8:01Shannon Sharpe:I like it.

8:02Chad Johnson:They better be ready. I like it.

8:04Shannon Sharpe:I think the Knicks price, it's first time an NBA playoff ticket has surpassed the get-in price for a Super Bowl ticket, Ocho. Yeah. Hey. The Knicks. Hey, this the Knicks, man. Hey, matter of fact, hey, speaking of, y 'all want to go to a game?

8:20Chad Johnson:Hell no. No. No. Hell no. Hey, I tell you what, let the Cowboys make it.

8:26Shannon Sharpe:You go? You go? No. I'm going to say what the get-in price going to be. Hell no.

8:32Chad Johnson:Oh, the Cowboys make it. I'm in there. You said who make it? The Cowboys. What y 'all playing, Madden? Oh, man, come on, bruh. Stop hating, man. I'm just asking. I'm being realistic, Joe. We being realistic.

8:45Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you going to get off that counter money? Oh, I know you ain't sitting in the rafter, Joe. So you going to cut loose that money, Joe?

8:52Chad Johnson:I'm sitting in Jerry Jones' suite. Hey, Joe, you know Jerry? Well, what's up? What you need? I don't need nothing. I'm gonna ask if you know Jerry. Yeah, that's alumni, man. You know, that's Arkansas alumni. Okay, oh, that's right. Jerry did go to Arkansas, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna be up there with Jerry and Steven Jones and all them. We gonna be up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gonna be in the box? Yeah, you know you come hang out with us, I got you.

9:23Shannon Sharpe:Nah, man. It's all that walking to get in. It's hell going to them games. Hey, no, you good? Hey, Joe, we can put Uncle in the wheelchair. Uncle, we'll roll you in there. Oh, man. At least get your boy a golf cart. I went to the Cincinnati and the Rams Super Bowl. And so far? I did. How was that? It was good. I mean, I think Cincinnati might have had just as many fans as damn the Rams. Hey, we travel good. We travel well now. they do y 'all do but man these prices man if they because you know why they do this joe why the nfl found out what the what people were playing on the black market for tickets so they say if you will play that on the black market we might as well just go ahead and put the four thousand dollars five thousand seven eight ten thousand dollars on the ticket price yeah since you're gonna pay them for it pay us for it and and it's the knicks fellas it's the

10:24Chad Johnson:the Knicks and the Spurs. Them New Yorkers, they paying it. Oh yeah. They paying it. Hey, only a select few can afford them courtside seats in New York now. Uh-uh.

10:34Shannon Sharpe:The mere fact that it's costing 4 ,000 to get in, Ocho, that's in the rafters. Yeah. That's just to get into the building.

10:46Shannon Sharpe:Well, you know what people are sacrificing me to get that?

10:50Chad Johnson:Man, what?

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10:51Shannon Sharpe:Oh yeah.

10:51Chad Johnson:To be able to say that he was in the building? Yes.

10:55Shannon Sharpe:This has been since, what, 99? Bro, that's 20, what, 27 years? Yeah, it's been a minute. It's been a minute, bro. People say, you know what? I might not ever see this moment again.

11:09Chad Johnson:Hell no. Real talk. Hey, hey, against the alien, too? That'll be nice. Hey, hey, who won the fight tonight? I ain't see. yeah you know for a forward and foster for tonight oh uh uh forward the black dude yeah

11:31Shannon Sharpe:no i think so i think i saw a fight where they got well uh that might have been uh uh was uh what's the little guy teddy atlas used to fight used to fight on the tip with teddy at the training bradley was bradley on the call nah that might have been somebody else that might have been somebody else oh okay they say foster one okay okay i'm so i but a four did win but it must have been another fight yeah and it might have been old 2000 man because somebody i sent you the thing somebody paid uh a quarter of a million for two quarters 50 uh center court hey you know when i think about it too when you think about the knicks the knicks tickets being that expensive you think Tracy Morgan and Spike Lee really got to pay full price or they already got their tickets allotted?

12:20They're season ticket holders. So they don't pay that. Okay, okay.

12:25Shannon Sharpe:So they might have to pay 25, let's just say for the sake of art, they pay$2 ,500 $3 ,000 a ticket.

12:31Chad Johnson:That's

12:31Shannon Sharpe:it?

12:32Chad Johnson:You think they paying that right now?

12:34Shannon Sharpe:That's all they paying right now? Probably so. You got to realize Spike, Spike has been a season, I think Spike said he's been a season hit goal since 1970? Yeah. Yeah.

12:44Chad Johnson:But, Unc, they paying big money for them playoff tickets, Unc. After the season over with.

12:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but I'm saying they're not paying what a scalper is paying. No, no, no. Right. So, Asubo, I mean, probably, I would say somewhere, maybe$7 ,500.

13:05Chad Johnson:I don't know about that one.

13:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Unc,$7 ,500. Of course, that's cheap. But you got to realize, Ochojo, they're season ticket holders. So let's just say for the sake of argument, I wanted tickets. I got tickets at the 50-yard line in the court level at an NFL game. I get an opportunity to buy those tickets. Are you first? I get an opportunity to buy them. Yes. And is that market value too at that? Yeah, so if the tickets are$7 ,500, so whatever the price of a court-side ticket is. So they're not charging$25 ,000 for a court-side ticket. Now, for a scalper, when you try to go to StubHub and get one, that's what they're going to charge you, but you have to understand.

13:59But the problem is the NBA takes over all those seats.

14:05Shannon Sharpe:So even though you get right of first refusal to it, but the NFL got it. I mean, the NBA has it. See, like those suites, if you have a suite in a stadium and the Super Bowl is in that stadium, that's not your suite.

14:19Chad Johnson:Nah.

14:19Shannon Sharpe:You have to buy that suite at the price that the NFL is selling it for. So it might be a million, million five, two million dollars. And it don't come with food. You got to pay for the food and the alcohol to come up in there too.

14:33Chad Johnson:Hey, if I ain't mistaken, I think after the regular season, I think you got to pay extra for them damn playoff tickets, though. Yeah, you do.

14:42Shannon Sharpe:Because the price goes up. But you get right of first refusal because those are your seats.

14:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, I get that.

14:48Shannon Sharpe:Okay, get your playoff tickets. When your team go into the playoffs, they say get your playoff tickets. You get the right because as a season ticket holder. Now, if you don't want them, guess what? Somebody else do.

15:04Chad Johnson:Yeah. You can jack up their prices up for you.

15:08Shannon Sharpe:And a lot of times, that's what people do. People will say, you know what? This will give me an opportunity to pay for my tickets all next year. So yeah, I'll go ahead. I'll miss this game.

15:17Chad Johnson:Yeah. It's a lot of people who buy courtside tickets just to sell them throughout the regular season. Yes. And make more than what they paid. Yeah. And pay for the

15:28Shannon Sharpe:season tickets next year. Yeah.

15:29Chad Johnson:Yep.

15:30Shannon Sharpe:You get a couple of games, guess what? If I get an opportunity to see LeBron, I get an opportunity to see Steph. You know, something like that. Or the Celtics and the Lakers.

15:41Chad Johnson:Yeah. Somebody's going to pay top dollar for that.

15:45Shannon Sharpe:Because at the end of the day, that's what you want to see. Especially if you a bad team. Everybody planning to see who coming to town. Right. I'm looking at Steph. I'm looking at LeBron. I'm looking at Giannis. Yo. Hey, you know, it's almost unfair, especially for the Knicks fans that have supported the team all season long. now you come to the playoffs and in a sense you're almost pricing out the die hard Knicks fans that's been supporting the team the entirety of the season with the prices that expensive

16:13Chad Johnson:man they don't care nothing about that oh Joe you know how this works

16:18Shannon Sharpe:I know how the business works think about it all them NFL sponsors they get X amount of tickets so when you break it down that's why Alex Gilchrist said look here man this game right here they're going to be 75 ,000 people in this stadium 35 ,000 of theirs 25 ,000-30 ,000 of theirs going to be drunk before kickoff 25 ,000-30 ,000 of ours going to be drunk before kickoff and the rest are corporate so what are we talking about here you're not getting a home game like you would in Cincinnati like you would in Dallas like we would in Denver or Kansas City or Baltimore. That ain't how it is.

17:03Chad Johnson:Yeah.

17:03Shannon Sharpe:I mean, a lot of these teams, a lot of these, oh, I like this team because I'm going to the Super Bowl. I got to root for somebody. That might not even be their team, Ocho and Joe. Oh, yeah. But I got to root for somebody.

17:16Chad Johnson:Yeah.

17:18Shannon Sharpe:Because who goes to the game and don't root for nobody? Man, I don't really care. Well, why you going?

17:23Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, spending all that money for them tickets. And please.

17:29Shannon Sharpe:but they have especially the Super Bowl that's the biggest event but Ocho like I said you paying that money on the black market the NFL said you playing on the black market you might as well get it on the get and you know exactly where your tickets are you know ain't no bull jive straight up yeah

17:52let's go Knicks huh

17:55Chad Johnson:that's who you got You got the Knicks winning it? Hey, Knicks in six. I'm gonna eat me a Twix. Huh? What we talking about? Listen to me ahead of time, man. He feeling good now, Joe. Yeah, look, you already know it. You already know it. I seen the man on here 30 minutes before we supposed to get on. I said, damn. Oh, yeah. Hey, Joe, I was bright and early, boy. Hey, look like he was looking dead at the camera waiting for somebody to get on here. Yeah, I was. I was. Hey, first game, Knicks. Knicks winning the first game. Anybody in the chat? Y 'all bet. Listen to your boy now. In San Antonio? Man, Knicks winning the first game.

18:36Knicks in six. Huh? Eat your twix.

18:42Shannon Sharpe:All right. We're going to find out. We're going to find out. But if you want to go, hey, San Antonio hadn't been since 2014. The Knicks hadn't been in 27 years. so hopefully you saved your money up and you get an opportunity to see your teams play one hadn't played to the NBA Finals in a quarter century and the other hadn't been in a decade plus so should be a very interesting matchup I think this is the best matchup they could have gotten and Wimby is going to bring an international market in people like Wimby

19:13Chad Johnson:no matter how

19:13Shannon Sharpe:the Thunder people look at the Thunder they're already over the Thunder they were cute and cuddly oh yeah the Thunder they're like, nah, we tired of them. We tired of them already. Only one state, Joe, Oklahoma, water the thunder the wind. Everybody else was going for the Spurs. And then you got that big market, and then you got an alien. Yeah, yeah. I want seven games. If we get our seven games. Ooh, I don't think I'm gonna go seven.

19:45Chad Johnson:I'm gonna keep it real. Yeah, I'm glad you said that, Joe. Say it with me, Joe. I'm not in favor of what you got going on. Oh, see? Hey, Unk, Unk, if the Knicks win in six, we got to put a muzzle on this boy. Nah, hey. We got to put a muzzle on his ass. Hey, Joe, you don't have to put a muzzle on me. Yeah, we do. Listen, I respect you. You played the game at the highest level. You should know this stuff. Unk, you know the game from 1920 to 1927. But the fact that I.

20:16Shannon Sharpe:The game didn't come into existence until 1947. Okay, my bad. For 1947. But the fact that I've been right the entirety of the playoffs, not just one game, not just two games, the entirety of the playoffs means y 'all need to listen to me.

20:29Chad Johnson:Well, pat yourself on the back. Hell, what you want from us? I don't want no pat on the back. I don't want no cookie.

20:35Shannon Sharpe:Okay. I just want you to respect my ball knowledge. That's all. All right. They took them. Hey, Joe, Ocho, they took them nuns to OKC. I told you they were going to take them nuns. Come on, man. They took them nuns, Joe. I told you.

20:47Chad Johnson:Hey. Hey, Antonio. Hey, man. Let's give them they props, bro. Give them they props. They did the damn thing. They did that. They did that. I give them that.

20:58Shannon Sharpe:According to Athletic, Mitchell Robinson did not sustain his broken pinky in a game or in practice. After a follow-up question to Mike Brown about how Robinson actually got hurt, Nick's media relations stepped in to say, we're not going to get into specifics. Shams reported on Friday that Robinson underwent a procedure to correct a broken right pinky and the hopes he'll be able to play in game one. Ocho, as our resident freaky expert, what non-basketball injury related could Mitchell do and mess up his pinky? You know what? I'm not sure. I'm thinking of all the outdoor activities that you can do as a basketball player, just as a human in general uh understanding the importance of of the series you have coming up um probably a physical altercation uh of some sort that's probably what it is and whatever happened is going to come out at some point as as much as he'd like to keep it quiet and want to keep it hush us i'm sure he probably had a physical altercation but there's nothing that you can do where you can actually break your pinky and knee surgery i don't think it was no physical altercation

22:06Chad Johnson:i think he was probably doing something he knew he probably shouldn't have been doing if it didn't happen if it didn't happen doing like a basketball activity right maybe because they had so much time off walking ocho he went and done a uh some type of extravaganza or something you know what i mean it could have been involved in doing some type of water sport or something i'm just speculating i'm speculating i don't know it's all you would it was joe what it had to be a physical altercation no yeah he probably got a little fight or something no to break your to break your pinky yeah it can get caught on it can get caught on something and you can break it yeah fighting no i don't he don't take me i'm sorry he don't take me for that ojo joe and you know you can't you can't you can't judge a book by his cover i get that i get that but i'm saying i don't i think he's probably doing something else all right all right when it come out i want here we go again now when it come out now that man think he hey who do you think you is now i'm just telling you because you have to think of the things you can do to actually break your finger it's plenty of things you can do ojo without without it being a physical altercation ah no do you know how much force it has to be to break your pinky to break any finger to break anything in general it ain't hard to break your pinky ojo no all right all right what What you got, Unc?

23:32Chad Johnson:What you think he was doing?

23:37Shannon Sharpe:I thought he broke it in the game or something. I thought he broke it in practice. That's what I thought. In practice, I was like, well, hell. That's the only thing that he did. Yeah, probably horsing around. He probably was horsing around. I don't know about fighting, but he was probably horsing around doing something he didn't supposed to be doing.

23:54Chad Johnson:That's what I take. That's what I think. But hell, hey, he an energy and effort guy. It ain't like he giving them no damn 20 and 10. Hey, he going to play now. He'll buy it. They just need him to buy it. Tie that thing up. Tie up these two fingers right here and go to work. Good?

24:14Shannon Sharpe:The analytics people in every front office have Cameron Buzer as the number one player in the draft, and he's expected to receive serious considerations for the number one or number two pick per Draft Express. Draft Express says Buzer is an analytics darling. If you talk about the analytics people in front offices who have a lot of influence these days, 100 % of them have Cam Boozer at the top spot in their draft model. I think he's going to be a 20-10 guy from day one, and I think he's even going to run to potentially being an all-star as a rookie. Joe, do you like Boozer, DeBonza, Peterson for the number one overall pick?

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28:27Chad Johnson:I like Boozer. I like DeBonza. And I like Peterson. But hell, if I'm the GM and I got my money on it, I'm taking AJ first, bro. I'm sorry. At 6 '9", the man led college basketball as a freshman. At 25 points a game. He shot 52, I think it was 52, 51 % from the field. Man, do you know how hard it is to score a damn 25 points a game in college? When he running zones and triple and double. Bro, this man has an elite repertoire of offensive skills. You know what I mean? I think he's only going to get better. I think when you drop him into the NBA next year or this upcoming season, this summer when he gets drafted, he'll be a guy who will probably come in as a rookie, Uncle Ocho, and average about 22 a game.

29:23Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think he's NBA ready right now. I like Bulls. I like the other kid from Kansas. But I... Yeah. Darren Peterson. Darren Peterson. But I like A.J. better. Yeah, hey, Dan Manalytics. Joe? Hey, hello. That's what I'm talking about. That shit done took over. Let's talk about. Yep. Turn on the film. It shows you exactly what you're getting. One of the few players going that early, the Bonza, you can put on any team and you're getting your 20. Yes, sir. Based on the situation, based on circumstance. Them facts, Ocho. Damn, analytics, man. Hey, hey, you talking about from footwork to making guys around you better.

30:07Chad Johnson:I think he has all the tools to be that guy. And if you put him in Washington and you got AD and Trey and him. I definitely think DeBonza and Boozer have NBA bodies right now. Yeah.

30:27Shannon Sharpe:That means something.

30:34Shannon Sharpe:20 and 10, could I see Boozer being a double-double guy? yeah yeah yeah but aj the bondsman looks special to me man to myself to me to myself damn analytics

30:47Chad Johnson:they didn't took over the damn game i'm serious man the eye test tells me from watching this kid i'm like look bro what can he not do he done face crazy he done faced crazy double and triple teams throughout the season he's showing you the repertoire he has in this game i think the The only thing he has to do now is to want to be a pretty good defensive player to where he can be a two-way player. He will be great, bro. You put him in a situation where vets can really show him the ropes, man, he going to be amazing.

31:22Shannon Sharpe:The thing that I like about DeBonza, he wasn't playing along other five stars. See, Boozer had other five stars playing alongside him, so you couldn't give him just your undivided attention because those other guys were pretty good players also.

31:36Chad Johnson:Absolutely.

31:37Shannon Sharpe:With A.J. DeBanza, that was it. I can focus all of this on you. And he's still able to get those numbers at the percentage in which he shot. And that's not a knock on camera. That's not, look, somebody got to go number one.

31:50Chad Johnson:Bro.

31:51Shannon Sharpe:But for me, I would take A.J. DeBanza as well.

31:55Chad Johnson:Hold on. When you look at what A.J. done, when you look at what A.J. DeBanza has done his freshman year, There's only been a handful of guys who you can even put in that sentence. And a couple of them is Kevin Durant and Michael Beasley. I'm talking about these dudes, they freshman year were unbelievable. A.J. Fitz, right into that, bro. Yep. Hey, Joe. What's up? Hey, what Beasley went to college? He went to Kansas State. He was cutting up, huh?

32:27Shannon Sharpe:Ooh. His first game, he had a 40-20. The first game?

32:33Chad Johnson:Hey, that boy was nasty in college, Ocho. I ain't going to lie to you. He was unbelievable. I seen him play on several occasions. I seen him play. I think they were playing against Kansas. I think the boy only had like four points in the first half because he was in foul trouble. Yeah. I think he had like 34 in the second half. Like I said, in college, bro, when you can score that ball like that in college, man, that let me know a lot.

32:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hmm. I mean, didn't he win? I think he won. Did he win player of the year? What you call him? He won, I think. Because he was in the draft with Derrick Rose. Yeah, he did. Rose went first because of Chicago. I believe that Chicago didn't have that pick. I think he goes first.

33:21Chad Johnson:You think Beasley go first?

33:23Shannon Sharpe:I do.

33:26Chad Johnson:I don't know. I know D. Rose, his numbers wasn't got it like Beasley's were. Yeah. But you could tell. You could tell he was going to be something. But you're probably right. Chicago wasn't passing on a homegrown kid.

33:40Shannon Sharpe:Just like I don't care what you'd offer. Cleveland not giving up on LeBron James.

33:45Chad Johnson:No, sir.

33:47Shannon Sharpe:You're just not.

33:48Chad Johnson:No, sir. No, sir.

33:50Shannon Sharpe:You're not letting the hometown kid go, no matter who it is. If he in that draft and he a top three top four, you're taking him number one.

33:57Chad Johnson:Yeah. So maybe if Washington had the number one pick that year, maybe they would take Beasley.

34:02Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they took Beasley. Absolutely. Yeah. He from the DMV? Yeah. Absolutely.

34:07Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. The boys got to it.

34:14Shannon Sharpe:He was phenomenal, man. You just got, I mean, Big 12 player, the NCAA rebounding champ. He did everything. First team All-American. Big 12 player of the year. First team All-Big 12. Even McDonald's All-American. game MVP. Hey, Joe, what happened while he was in the NBA? Yeah, he had a good career, huh?

34:39Chad Johnson:Yeah, you know what I really think? I think because the game came so easy to bees. Yeah. You know, when you get to the pros, bro, you're going to be tried and tested, especially different situations you come into. By him going to Miami, I think he's even talked about it to where situations he had with Pat Riley and Sposha, some of the stuff he'd take back. When you ain't really been challenged, Uncle Ocho as a kid, and then you come into the NBA a men's league, it's some challenges you're going to be facing, bro.

35:18Shannon Sharpe:Yes. I just think he just needed mentorship. He never got that at any level. and and the pros bro they not babysitting you bro they not Ocho they just not you know in college they gonna hey you got study hall you got weight lifting you gotta come to practice they ain't doing none of that you gotta grow up

35:49Chad Johnson:yeah and if they feel like they have to babysit your ass

35:54Shannon Sharpe:is going to get your ass up out of there.

35:55Chad Johnson:Going to be sure to live.

35:57Shannon Sharpe:They're going to get your ass up out of there. Because with that kind of scoring ability, I mean, he averaged 26 and 12 as a freshman. 26 and 12. Let that sink in for a second. 26 and 12. He was third in the nation in scoring, led the nation in rebounding. I'm trying to think. There ain't been a whole lot of guys that led the nation in scoring and rebounds. I think Xavier McDaniel did it and LaSalle Thompson.

36:26Chad Johnson:And then you go into a situation like Miami where they already got D-Wade, UD, and all these dudes. Structure.

36:33Shannon Sharpe:He needed structure. He never had that growing up. Yeah. He had to be an adult before it was time, Ocho. And you look, when you're talented, you get away with a lot of ish coming up. Yeah. Now, you're used to getting away with stuff. when there's somebody there to hold you accountable for that, how you going to react, Gocho? Right. With all your life. And then, you know, he's used to playing a certain way. Yeah. He wants to get up and down. And they're like, nah. I mean, it kind of, you know.

37:11Chad Johnson:I'm telling you.

37:12Shannon Sharpe:I just wish he had somebody in his corner. That's what sometimes, man, you know, everybody ain't going to be mature. Everybody is not going to be mature at 17, 18, and 19. They're not. Some people, it takes until the age of 23 or 25, 26. Some don't ever mature. Yeah. Still big-ass kids at 30-plus. That's what he needed. He needed somebody in his corner. I mean, man, that was – Hey, Joe, it sounded like the perfect situation to me.

37:48Chad Johnson:Well, the thing is, O'Shea. Especially having D-Wade there. That's a great mentor right there in itself. But what I'm saying is the game was so easy for him that when you get to the pros, Ocho, you got dudes, bro, who got two, three kids, a family. They playing hard as I don't know what out here. You know what I mean? I'm telling you because I played against Bees when he was in Miami. We played against him in the playoff series. I mean, I think it may have been his second year, but they barely played him. Mm-hmm. They barely played him, bro. Damn. This is when I was here for the Hawks. We beat y 'all too, by the way.

38:28Chad Johnson:Actually, that was a year D-Wade averaged 30 points a game, bro. I think he – did he win MVP that year? No. D-Wade never won MVP, huh? Mm-mm. I just think he led the league. Did Nash win it? Were you with the Hawks? Yeah, I was with the Hawks. He led the league. So what year you got to the Hawks? I got there in 05. I think this was –

38:55Shannon Sharpe:So Nash won it in 4 and 5, right?

38:57Chad Johnson:Yeah.

38:58Shannon Sharpe:And so Kobe won it in 6.

39:03LeBron won it 9-10.

39:08Shannon Sharpe:Rose won it 11. LeBron won it 12-13.

39:13Chad Johnson:This is like 09 I'm talking about, though.

39:15Shannon Sharpe:09. Who won the MVP in 09? Let me go back. Nah, LeBron wanted a 9-10. So who wanted in between?

39:32Shannon Sharpe:Because Nash won 5.

39:34Chad Johnson:Shit, it say LeBron. Really? Playing with the Cavs.

39:40Shannon Sharpe:He won 7-8-8-9. He won 0-8-7-8-8-9. Nah.

39:47Chad Johnson:08-09 NBA Most Valuable Player Award.

39:51Shannon Sharpe:LeBron?

39:52Chad Johnson:Yeah.

39:53Shannon Sharpe:Who won in between LeBron and Nash? I know Kobe won. It was 06, I think. Kobe won.

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40:33Shannon Sharpe:Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze. I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that. Don't go down the rabbit hole. Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Healthcare just got less painful. Hello, hello. This is Malcolm Glabal from Smart Talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari HP. Your pronunciation is strongly American.

41:20It's more Scuderia Ferrari. I'm still working on rolling my R's. But what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age. Ferrari fans and superfans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community, and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team. You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history. And now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions. When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology and digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans.

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43:59Chad Johnson:Yeah, Dirk.

44:01Shannon Sharpe:Damn. And then LeBron won it after Dirk, right? Yep. Back-to-back years. 2008, it was Kobe. I thought Kobe won it in six.

44:15Chad Johnson:It's a NBA MVP in two.

44:18Shannon Sharpe:So Kobe won it after Dirk?

44:21Chad Johnson:Yeah.

44:22Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay. And then LeBron back-to-back years. Yeah. Then Rose. Then Bron again. And then KD. Yeah. Okay. And then Steph back-to-back years. And then Russ. Okay. Damn. Then Harden. And then back-to-back years, Giannis.

44:54Chad Johnson:Yeah.

44:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to stop playing. I ain't doing that with you no more, Joe. Go put that up, Joe. Put that up, Joe. Put that up, Joe. Put it up. Hey, hey, hey. Anissa Morrow has 17 points and 14 rebounds for her fourth consecutive game with a double-w. Double-double as the Connecticut Suns beat the Los Angeles Sparks 84-81. Morrow leads the WNBA with seven double-doubles. Connecticut had lost three in a row all by double figures. Kelsey Plum, KP, our girl, missed her second consecutive game with an ankle injury. Nneka Abumakate has 3 ,315 career rebounds to move into a tie with Tamika Ketchins for fifth on the WNBA career list.

45:43Shannon Sharpe:Look, I see Van Lift, she signed back with the Suns on the development team. Reading says she felt like that's the best place for her to develop. I was surprised considering how well she played in the limited minutes. She's a bucket getter. Yeah. And the thing is, Joe, her offense is going to be her defense.

46:05Chad Johnson:What are you saying? She can't guard?

46:08Shannon Sharpe:She ain't the best.

46:12Shannon Sharpe:She's not the best. Is it?

46:14Chad Johnson:But, I mean, she a bucket getter, man. That lefty? She is, bro. That's why I mean, bro, I feel like I'm paying pretty good attention to the women's game. You know, I've seen her play and the way she moves out there on the court. It's just hard to believe, bro, that it's hard for her to stick on a roster.

46:34Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Damn. It got to be something we don't know. Hey. That's when you have a fan like that. We said the same thing about Cam Thomas. Man go get Bucky, get 30, 40 parts of the game, and he can't stay the nest. He's there Milwaukee for two weeks, and now he gone from there. So I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that, Joe. You think he pissed somebody off, huh, Joe? I don't know what he did.

46:59Chad Johnson:Cam Thomas? He got to piss somebody off. I don't know, bro, but I think like his second game there, he won a game for him in Orlando. And then next thing you know, he ain't really playing no more, and then he gets cut. I honestly have no idea on that situation. But, yeah, you're right. It's similar to that.

47:22Shannon Sharpe:But, look, and the Wichita company have been playing really well, the Sparks, but, you know, look, their best player is down injured. It was going to be tough, even though they did. The Suns had lost, you know, three or four games in a row. Without your best player, it's going to be hard. They got all five starters within double figures. They got 12 from Agumake. They got Derika Hamby had 11. Erica Wheeler had 13. Atkins had 16. Burrow had 16. Cameron Brink had two. Kate Martin, two. Latson, the South Carolina game.

47:55Chad Johnson:You don't think Cameron Brink, she ain't really got over that. I think she tore it, ACL or something?

48:01Shannon Sharpe:ACL. Because she got skill.

48:04Chad Johnson:Yeah.

48:05Shannon Sharpe:She's a slender built.

48:06Chad Johnson:Yeah.

48:07Shannon Sharpe:Can shoot to three. Can rebound. got nice, solid post move. I think it's going to take a while for her to get comfortable. Ain't no way at that skill level she's supposed to be coming off the bench. But it is what it is until you prove. I like it when a coach plays you based on your play. Yeah. Not just where you was drafted at or, oh, I'm supposed to be this and.

48:32Chad Johnson:And thrusting you into a position that you ain't ready for.

48:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, putting you in the situation, nah. Hell nah.

48:36Chad Johnson:Yeah, I agree. They probably bring it along slow.

48:39Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Park guard Haley Van Lith signed to a developmental player contract with the Connecticut Sun that moved two days after Van Lith was waived by the Sun. Sources told ESPN that there were other opportunities available to Van Lith, but she felt standing in Connecticut was the best fit for her immediate development and long-term goals. Under the new collective bargain agreement, each team can sign two players with fewer than four years of service to a developmental roster spot. Anyone signed to this contract can play a maximum of 12 games or as a season footprint increases 25 % of the regular season, whichever is greater.

49:16Shannon Sharpe:The annual play for a developmental-based salary is equal to 750 multiplied by the number of weeks in the regular season. Players can also receive active game bonuses.

49:28Chad Johnson:So she's going back to the Connecticut Sun.

49:32Shannon Sharpe:She's going back to the Sun. She's been on the Rock developmental. she can't play more than 12 games she can't she cannot anyone signed to this type of contract can play a maximum of 12 games or as the season footprint increases 25 % of the regular season damn I don't understand that at all me neither bro man look they got guys 10 11 years in the league on practice squad. Yeah. You know, practice squad used to be for like first, second, third, maybe a third year guy. Man, they got guys five, six, seven years on practice squad.

50:15Chad Johnson:Hey, practice squad guys make good money?

50:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hell yeah. Between, depending on the year, it's probably between 250 and 400 ,000. Oh, yeah.

50:27Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Good one.

50:30Shannon Sharpe:And all you got to do is just pay attention. just pay attention study hard work hard you go out there and make plays and hey you might get thrust up somebody get hurt you go down you go in yeah they sign you to the active roster you

50:44Chad Johnson:gotta be a real pro to do that though you do it take a real professional because a lot of cats ain't built like that y 'all know and i'm sure y 'all seen a lot of cats who've been in certain situations and hell had they had a work some work ethic you know and their number was called they probably would have had a real chance. But, boy, you got to be a real pro to come to work every day knowing, damn, I ain't playing.

51:07Shannon Sharpe:You're not getting in the game. You're not going to play on Sunday. You're not going to dress. And when they leave, they're going to leave you. They go on the road, they're going to leave your ass home. And for the most part, I don't know, don't you know, practice squad guys, because normally practice squad guys had to sit in the stands. They weren't able to be on the sideline. No, when we played, they would always dress out. Not they were in the Bengals gear. Not actual. You know what I mean? They'd be on the sideline, though.

51:36Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they practice hard, though? Oh, yeah. Some. Absolutely. Absolutely.

51:41Shannon Sharpe:That's how Rod Smith made it. Rod Smith was on the practice squad. Yeah.

51:45Chad Johnson:And then he became the greatest receiver in Broncos history.

51:50Shannon Sharpe:He worked his ass off.

51:51Chad Johnson:That's what I'm saying.

51:52Shannon Sharpe:Every day, he got brother.

51:54Chad Johnson:That's what I'm saying.

51:55Shannon Sharpe:No matter what you need him to do, he run down on special teams. and he was returning punts, catching balls, whatever you needed Fuss to do, he did it. And when he got his opportunity, see, I believe the number one killer of dreams is expectations. See, how many times, Ocho, you see guys, we talk about this, Ocho, all the time. You see guys in practice, when ain't nothing expected of them, catching the ball like this here.

52:23Chad Johnson:You hear me? Yeah.

52:25Shannon Sharpe:Doing everything, that same guy that made catches like damn, get in the game, ball hitting them all in the back of his head. He can't get off the rest. Now he done cooked every DB we got. The DB, he done did up all our best receivers. Right there, batting the ball down. He get in the game and don't know ish. And go out practice in the game are two entirely different things. Hey, hey. Different. I'm telling you. No, they're not. Expectations are different between practice and the game. Right. You see in practice, bro, Ocho, this is what I'm doing. Hold on.

53:09Shannon Sharpe:All right, hey, hey, hey, hey, uh, Johnson, this you right here. Yeah. You got the 15-yard comeback. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, uh, Iso, you the tight end. You got the over route. Okay? Yeah. Hey, backside, clear this thing out because we're going one, two, we're going to hit the back on the ring. All right, ready, break. Now, that's what they do in practice. Yeah. Come game time. All right, we're going red right. No, we're going far double wing right. F short. X dig. Let's go Z shake. Y choice. Ready?

53:44Chad Johnson:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I got 60 ,000 down.

53:49Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hold on. Everybody clap but him. You see the wheels spinning now. Ain't nobody holding up the car to tell you where you're going. Because they don't call no plays, we just hold the sheet up. That's you right there. You got the comeback. You got the post. You got the speed out. You got the dig. You got the over.

54:14Chad Johnson:Hey, y 'all know, y 'all know in practice, it ain't no damn crowd. It's just us and A's. So you ain't got no reason to be nervous. When you get your ass out there, it's 50, 60 ,000 people up there. Oh yeah, it's a big difference. Oh yeah. You dropped the ball, boo.

54:36Shannon Sharpe:I'm just telling you how it is, man, I've seen it. I've seen guys that'll be, Ocho, you done seen it? Guys be balling their ass off at practice.

54:43Chad Johnson:Yeah.

54:47Shannon Sharpe:Bigger in the game. and then guess what man I ran bro you hot I know you ran the route you weren't supposed to run the route you were supposed to run the hot route so what

55:02Shannon Sharpe:one came off your side did you not see did you not see that safety cheat down that told you the damn slot was coming why do you think the safety cheated down because he was coming

55:15Chad Johnson:yeah look

55:19So now

55:22Shannon Sharpe:what happened? What happened? He ain't running damn hot. That's what happened. Hey. You got the quarterback damn near decapitated. That's what happened. Hey, them hots get you, Joe. You got to be paying attention. When that quarterback pointed at Mike, and if anything come outside of that mic, that means they got the extra man coming, boy, you better, you be able to see it. You leave your quarterback hanging, boy. And you gotta know, okay, we got an empty formation. All it takes is one. One. If we got a back in the backfield, it takes two because guess what? We got five linemen and we got a back that can block six.

56:05Shannon Sharpe:If they bring seven, you gotta run hot, dum-dum. Got to.

56:12Shannon Sharpe:Meaning they're bringing more than we can block. So somebody got to look, so what? You want the quarterback to block him with his chest?

56:19Chad Johnson:He didn't see that in practice. Yeah, I ain't show him that one in practice.

56:24Shannon Sharpe:No, because guess what? If we hold it up there, ain't no hots on there. Right, that's all I'm saying.

56:34Shannon Sharpe:But see, that's the thing. And the thing is, when quarterbacks get excited, they're going to start talking fast. So you really know what you got. My thing is, you know what you got? No, no, what I got, Sharp? You got to come back. Hey, if it's cover two, release outside and clear. Bro, what are you doing? Why would you release outside? Didn't I tell you if it's cover two, release outside and clear? Why the hell you go inside? The last thing we want to do, we got something coming that way. We don't want the damn cornerback looking inside to deplete the tight end, which is me. I'm going to snap hell at you when he comes to the sideline.

57:11and then the other dude, the wire receiver on the damn over.

57:15Shannon Sharpe:Damn it. We want you to make the cornerback turn his eyes to the damn plate. If you release inside, guess what he's doing? All he's doing is shoving you down inside, and he's still looking inside. Yeah.

57:29Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, that's the same thing in basketball. Hey, Coach will draw up two, three plays in the huddle, right? Boom, he dropped two, three plays. We're going to run the first play, though, Arke Ocho. but just so happened this first play worked. Now we're going to run until they stop it. Yes. So let's say the first play worked three times. Okay, boom, they stopped it. So next time we running the second play. You remember the second play? Damn, I don't remember the second play. What's the second play? You know, you're trying to coach somebody through a whole play.

57:58Shannon Sharpe:I know exactly what you said. Yeah, that's how, Joe, that's how it is when we go no huddle. We got two plays. First one on one, second one on set hut. We're going to line up in the same – because we don't want to flip sides. We waste too much time. If we start in the right formation, we're going to stay in the right formation. Right. If we start in the left formation, we're going to stay in the left formation. Only thing changes – hey, we got two plays. First one on one, second one on set hook. Okay, boom, go. Dumb-dumb, go around for – Dumb-dumb, we told you both plays are in the right formation.

58:30Shannon Sharpe:You wasted too much time. You see guys running back and forth. No. They normally, most teams, they will always, whatever formation they start in, a right formation, they'll stay in the right formation. It takes too much time to be flip-flopping.

58:46Chad Johnson:Yeah.

58:46Shannon Sharpe:Because the last thing I want is Ocho to run a damn go-round on the right side, and then all of a sudden we flip it, and he got a damn left formation. Now, he got to go all the way across there instead of running his ass back. Man, I got to get – bro, we're not going to get that back. You talk about, hey, my bad. Hot. That means you don't run your normal route. Get your head around. You know, me and Johnny's like, hey, the guy coming down. Look, first of all, if the guy's coming down, Ocho, why you running full speed into him? Just take your time. Bubble a little bit so you can get a quarterback to throw.

59:28Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. If you running full speed at him, he running full speed at you. Guess what's going to happen? A headache.

59:35Chad Johnson:Yep.

59:39Shannon Sharpe:Head headache. But see, you learned that. Hey, that chick you was talking to on the phone, she know these plays? You about to be with her. And guess what? That chick that you talking to that you think she really like you, when you get cut, guess what? Another dude gonna strike, gonna crack her. Hello. She ain't gonna even look at, she won't give two Fs about you. Understand how this game work, bro. Hello. They love what you do, not who you are. The sooner you realize that, the better off you gonna be. Get your ass in that playbook. You better learn to play it before they play you.

1:00:27Chad Johnson:Man.

1:00:30Shannon Sharpe:Facts. But they stay on them phones, though, Ocho. Oh. Don't worry about it. Hey, man, who you talking to? Click. You ain't say your mom. You ain't say your mom. You ain't say nothing about that. Nope. Oh, yeah. But you go out there and then you mess up a play. Because in walkthrough, Joe, we go over the plays. So all the plays that we're going to be putting in for today's practice, we go out there and hit them things. Boom. We go through walkthrough. Yeah. So Mike expects you. They expect you to know the plays that you just went over 30 minutes ago. All them plays, Mike expects you to know them.

1:01:07Shannon Sharpe:Now, you don't – Mike is looking at us crazy. He looking at the veterans like, 84, what's going on? Why – damn, Mike, I mean, I'm struggling myself to learn these mofos. I can understand. You know, hey, I can't dime a man out. Well, Mike, every time we get a break, they run to the phone.

1:01:30Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:01:31Shannon Sharpe:They run to their locker. Yeah. Bro. Ocho, Joe, if you get a call, where do they think you are? If you're on an NFL team, you're on an NBA team, I just want to know between the hours. Let's just stick with football. Between the hours of 9 and 4, well, special teams got to get there at 8. So between the hours of 8 and 4.30, where do they think you are on a Wednesday? Thursday, Friday, we got till noon. So between Wednesday and Thursday, I want you to tell me, where do they think you are? Practice. Work. Why is she calling you? You're just like, I'm at practice. That was, excuse me, I never understood that.

1:02:20Shannon Sharpe:Back then, there were no Uber drivers. You weren't driving a cab. The clubs weren't open, so you weren't security. Where the hell do they think you were? I just didn't get them guys. And guys, you know, coach you thought I said, son, don't cut yourself, let me do it.

1:02:37Chad Johnson:Right.

1:02:37Shannon Sharpe:I've seen more guys cut themselves in my 14 years because of that.

1:02:43Chad Johnson:I've seen it too.

1:02:45Shannon Sharpe:They run straight to the phone. Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:54Chad Johnson:Halftime.

1:02:55Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey.

1:03:01Shannon Sharpe:I see you sleep, don't worry about it. You sleep? I ain't got nothing for you.

1:03:06Chad Johnson:Hold on, y 'all talking about in like film? In the meeting, yeah, in the meeting, yeah. Absolutely. Guys be outta there? Knocked out.

1:03:18They been out the night before, hey Joe, they been out the night before, out late.

1:03:23Chad Johnson:Hey, hey.

1:03:24Shannon Sharpe:Bro, if I got to stay my ass awake and meeting, now when I got to Baltimore, Wade Harmon, where my position coach, he let big play going up out of here. You go ahead and go. I'm gone.

1:03:37Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:03:38Shannon Sharpe:B people, I let B, man, look here, man. I ain't going to tell you. I said, look, I'm going to sleep. I'm going to tell you beforehand, so don't call me and ask me nothing. I'm going to sleep. I'm going to watch what you took. What you showed, I'm going to watch that. But I knew, I knew my, I had to, I know it. but them young guys is not paying attention and bull jiving. Instead of like being in your playbook during lunch. Yeah. They want to shoot pool. Yeah. Play ping pong. Yeah. Wanna be on the poppy shot, be on the phone. Okay. Okay.

1:04:11Chad Johnson:But looking lost when it's that one. Yeah. When trying to dry run through these damn plays. But guess what Joe?

1:04:19Shannon Sharpe:Every once in a while, some of them will still be there. they done got released. Hey, Sean, what's up? You know, hey, I let him come on. Hey, come on. Hey, with me.

1:04:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

1:04:29Shannon Sharpe:I feel bad for it. That really could have been you. You could have had a name.

1:04:33Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:04:37Chad Johnson:Hey, y 'all know this, though. When you turn pro, bro, like your whole mentality has to change. It better. But everybody don't, though. It doesn't. Everybody doesn't. Hey, listen. Listen, it's a lot of cats whom I've seen come and go in the pros, and I'm talking about the NBA. I'm talking about whatever for only two, three years, and boom, it's a wrap. To be able to have longevity, bro, you got to get lost in this thing. You hear me? Yes. I'm talking about you have to really love what you're doing. Yeah. Not what the game brings to you, but you have to really love getting your ass up in the morning, putting in that work, putting in that work in the offseason to where you can continue to get better yearly.

1:05:20Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? It's not a lot of cats like that, bro. They happy and satisfied just to get there?

1:05:26Shannon Sharpe:Cool. I'm cool. I made it. They love what the game allows them to have. I get to go to the club. I get to shine. I get a nice car. It's the grind. It's boring being a pro because you do the same thing over and over. You watch tape, Ocho. Hey, the head coach is going to get up there and tell you what the thing is for the day. You're going to break up offense. You're going to install. Then you're going to break up in a unit. Tight ends go one room. Running back go to another room. Y receive O-line. Boom, boom, boom. Guess what? Then we're on the field for walkthrough. Yeah. We're on the aisle for lunch.

1:06:00Shannon Sharpe:Then we're out there practicing. Then we come back and we're going to break down. We're going to watch tape. That's it. Every day. Every day. Every single day. You got to fall in love with the process. And people don't. They fall in love with what the game provides for.

1:06:14Chad Johnson:Yep. They lose sight of why they are where they are. Meaning like, okay, boom, hey, bro, you're here to play basketball. I know you want to hit the spot tonight. I know you want to go hang out with Shorty now, but don't ever lose sight of why you're here. Yeah. You can never lose sight of that, bro.

1:06:37Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you want to go out once a month. But how you going to go out two, three times a week?

1:06:44Chad Johnson:When it's popping, it's popping. You go to a city, you go to a city that's jumping, Miami, Atlanta, New York.

1:06:53Shannon Sharpe:Well, first of all, that ain't happening in football. Your ass going to get there in an hour after you arrive. You better tell him you're going to be in special teams meeting. Then you're going to have a team meeting. Then you got individual – because we had tests. We had a test. So our test, the tight ends, we had a test. every plate you had to write down what you had on that plate what you had the hot and also a counter so what was going to be if we audible out of that plate so we had to write down so we got a test and all he got is a plate now we got to tell him what we had and what was the audible if we checked out of it

1:07:38Shannon Sharpe:I remember them days

1:07:40Chad Johnson:man

1:07:42Shannon Sharpe:I just guys didn't take it serious man I took it serious that's why I get upset and be like man you know I couldn't because the guys had the same amount of time as I had and I understood bro I worked my way up I was a seventh round draft pick yeah started out on special teams just being scout team guys and then work my way up bro it can be done I'm not saying everybody even though you might work your way up but everybody might not be a pro bowl player but you could have played a lot longer than what you did.

1:08:13Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

1:08:14Shannon Sharpe:You cut yourself.

1:08:17Chad Johnson:I agree.

1:08:20Shannon Sharpe:All right, time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

1:08:32Shannon Sharpe:Before we get to our super chats, we have three video voicemail. Let's take a listen.

1:08:42um ISO do me a favor hold this L while I go celebrate

1:08:53Shannon Sharpe:boy the jokers off the chain tonight in San Antonio man

1:08:55Chad Johnson:I already know hey congrats bro do your thing do your one two

1:09:00Shannon Sharpe:enjoy it well deserved bro y 'all played y 'all ass off the night y 'all don't deserve Earned the win. Y 'all earned that win. Yes, sir. Every run, y 'all had a big lead. They came and took it. And every time they tried to pull away, Champagny or somebody made a three, they make a three and somebody stayed attached.

1:09:22Chad Johnson:Absolutely.

1:09:22Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all never lost out of those taillights.

1:09:24Chad Johnson:Absolutely. Absolutely. Hell of a game. Hell of a game.

1:09:28Shannon Sharpe:Let's take a listen to our second one. Hey, mine. Say mine. Live from Memphis, Tennessee. You hear me? So, um, Ocho.

1:09:42I guess they forgot to tell Chet that we got a game to play. We here playing a game. Show up. It would be nice for you to show up. But I already knew he wasn't going to be good. He wasn't good in college when Gonzaga played against Memphis. He slowed out in that game. But I'm going to say this. Don't be surprised OKC get that big center from Michigan. That 7-3 center from Michigan. They do got a lottery. They do got a lottery pick. Don't be surprised if they snag him for Wimby.

1:10:17Shannon Sharpe:Well, there ain't no answer for Wimby. So you just got to, hey, just play Wimby miss. That's what you're hoping for on Wimby. Go ahead, Joe.

1:10:26Chad Johnson:Did you see the back door he did, though, when he dunked on check? Yes. Oh, he passed it to Fox. The Fox gave it right back. Gave it right back to him. Nice little give and go. He dunked on him so quick, though. Nice little give and go. For me, man, for me, it's just like I wish Chet would have – if Chet would have won one for 12, I would have been cool with that. But one for two, damn, he didn't even give himself a chance.

1:10:50Shannon Sharpe:He didn't. He didn't, Joe. I ain't been to hold you. He didn't. But we talked – Joe, we talked about this, is that you watch it from game one all the way on. When Wimby was on Chet, Chet was not even looking at no damn basketball.

1:11:07Chad Johnson:He wasn't, bro. at all. Because Wimby was putting it right back in his face when he was shooting. He's like, man, I can't shoot over this big dude. He's going to block it every time because he was blocking his jump shots. He stopped looking at the rim.

1:11:24Shannon Sharpe:And the thing is is that you look at Wimby and he's taller, but he's more athletic. He's more nimble than Chet. If you watch Chet, Chet looked very robotic. I'm not saying that he's not skilled, but it's almost like he's thinking about his moves as he's doing them. Well, Wimby is just free and fluid.

1:11:46Chad Johnson:Super fluid.

1:11:47Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

1:11:48Chad Johnson:Very fluid. I agree. Very fluid. You can tell in his moves and defensively how he moves. He's a big flu. To be 7 '5", hey, he moves with a lot of fluidity.

1:12:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He's not clumsy. He's not like Tripp stumbling over himself.

1:12:06Chad Johnson:Bro, look, look, hold on. Y 'all got to look at his size up when he out there handling the rock. It almost looked fake because he is the biggest person on the court. And you're like, hold on, how in the hell that man out here just tween, tween, sizing his man up, size stepping. Bro, that's – at his height, the way he does it is remarkable.

1:12:29Shannon Sharpe:This was a very disappointing series for Chet. Yeah, Shea didn't shoot the best. He had, I mean, look, he got Caruso, came along with him for a lot of those rides. McCain played extremely well. Yeah, look, they were determined. If Shea, if he's going to shoot that 53 % on these tough-ass jump shots that we're making him take, we've got to live with that. But what they did is that they locked in on those other guys. This was the game that Chet was supposed to say, you know what, you took us, hey, the first three quarters, especially the quarters two and three, Shea, I'm going to bring it home.

1:13:10Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. If he didn't show up for any other night, he definitely wasn't showing up when it mattered most, and that was the night. But this is what we got. Ocho, this is why you have a one-two punch. Yeah. But I think if you OKC, though, you don't overreact because you hope, hopefully, J-Dub can stay healthy next season. Because if you have him, maybe you can offset some of that Castle and Harper and Fox. You know what I mean? Because you got to understand, J-Dub did win them a game. I think what that was, game five or six in Indiana, where J-Dub went out for like 40? 40. Like, I think he – I think, you know, we missing sight of that.

1:13:51Chad Johnson:So, with them not having him, I mean, it was a huge difference. It was, but that's disappointing. Man.

1:14:02Shannon Sharpe:The reason why you have a big three, if one of those guys are out, the other two can carry the load. This is a game that you needed Chet to carry his weight.

1:14:13Chad Johnson:You did. You did.

1:14:16Shannon Sharpe:That's it.

1:14:20Shannon Sharpe:That's why everybody can't be the lead dog in Iditarod.

1:14:28No, no.

1:14:32Shannon Sharpe:Let's take a listen to the last one. Yo, what's good, NICAT family? Yo, I remember last series, Ocho didn't even have the Spurs to win that series. Now, all of a sudden, he want to switch up just because Unc and Joe are going for the OKC, man. Hey, we out here watching it. I told you how we was going to be in the Western Conference Finals.

1:14:56Chad Johnson:that we're going to be in the finals. Hey, call his ass out then.

1:15:01Shannon Sharpe:That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. He loud and wrong. What are you talking about? No, you didn't. You had Ant-Man to beat the Spurs. No, I didn't. Yes, you did.

1:15:11Chad Johnson:Yeah. Not me?

1:15:12Shannon Sharpe:Come on, man. Yeah, no, not you. Chad. I know. I'm going to call you what all your ladies used to call. You call you Chad. Nah, I know who I had to win. He don't know what he's talking about. No, you had to win this series.

1:15:27Chad Johnson:No. Come on, man. We thought you were going to keep it 100. I am 100. I mean, listen, just because y 'all, listen, y 'all don't hate because y 'all wrong. Don't do that. Don't do that.

1:15:40Shannon Sharpe:I had, first of all, I had the Spurs to get past Minnesota. You did not. Hey. What? I had the Spurs going to the finals. I had the Knicks going to the finals. That's exactly who's going to be there. That's all that matters.

1:16:00Shannon Sharpe:Sound of grad chat. Okay. Okay. So you can go home and fret. If you listen to Ocho, you likely won your best Spurs in seven. Side note. Oh, make sure you give Cornett his flowers for that block. I did. I tweeted. Play the game.

1:16:15Chad Johnson:It was.

1:16:16Shannon Sharpe:They win this game because that's going to be playing the game. That was the turning point moment. That crowd was getting ready to erupt. Yeah. and if I'm not mistaken that was their second that was their second turnover too Joe and Ocho yeah Cornette hustled his ass off and said you know what

1:16:36Chad Johnson:elbow block

1:16:38Shannon Sharpe:and he knew it hey you see when he got to the sideline how they were hyping him yeah yeah

1:16:46Chad Johnson:look all he been hearing is about the non-Wimby minutes how OKC has been taking advantage of the non-Wimby minutes, meaning when his ass is in there. So, yeah, that was a huge confidence booster for him.

1:17:03Shannon Sharpe:It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. That was an unbelievable play. There was a lot of great plays in that game. They're going to talk about that play for a long, long time, Joe. Yes, sir.

1:17:15Chad Johnson:Yes, sir.

1:17:18Shannon Sharpe:Spurs to the finals. Ocho called it, baby. Let's go. Go Spurs, go. Hell out. Funny, I've never heard of a winning team say, according to analytics, we're actually losing. Well, Ocho blamed analytics with ISO and still takes it by best podcast trio in the game. Hello. You know what it was, Joe? What? Analytics are for guys that couldn't play the game, couldn't coach the game, so I have to find a way to get into the game.

1:17:49Chad Johnson:Right, right.

1:17:49Shannon Sharpe:So they do these numbers.

1:17:52Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:17:53Shannon Sharpe:And so a lot of them got jobs, and that seems to be the thing. You go for it on fourth down. Do we fake it here? Do we do this there? It used to be coaches go on gut field, and analytics don't take into account momentum. Don't take into account home or away. Don't take into account nothing. It's a bunch of numbers that you poked in and spit it out.

1:18:20Chad Johnson:Facts.

1:18:24Well, the basketball or soccer, ethical ball won this weekend.

1:18:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, PSG beat what? Who was that? Real Madrid or Arsenal, Ocho? Yeah, PSG beat Arsenal today in penalty kicks. It was a beautiful game. Beautiful game, beautiful game. PSG won back-to-back Champions Leagues. I mean, Arsenal played a really good game. Very important kick. Isn't that Stan Cronkis' team? Yeah, Arsenal, yeah. Yeah, that's Stan's team. Yeah. It was a good game. Really good game.

1:18:59Shannon Sharpe:Put some respect on Ocho's name. Come correct when you mention number 85. Man, that joker got lucky.

1:19:10Shannon Sharpe:Triple X Club Saturday said Arsenal lost. OKC lost. Hey, Siri, play Ice Cube. Today was a good day. Ocho was right.

1:19:24Shannon Sharpe:Chet's going to have to take a look in the mirror.

1:19:33Yeah.

1:19:34Shannon Sharpe:Four points.

1:19:36Chad Johnson:It was a rough series. It was a series for him.

1:19:39Shannon Sharpe:It was. Ocho called it yet again.

1:19:46Chad Johnson:Oh, man. Here we go. Hey, hey, listen. I'm not bragging, Joe. I'm not bragging. I mean, let the people decide, Joe. You've been gloating and bragging since we got on. Let the people remind you, man.

1:20:00Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Cornette blocked that shot the same way he blocked Magic City Night in Atlanta. Hey, hello, hell. Damn.

1:20:15Shannon Sharpe:Lord, have mercy.

1:20:16Chad Johnson:Damn, Cornette.

1:20:19Shannon Sharpe:85, you were right, my boy. Bring out that strap on this party night. What?

1:20:24Chad Johnson:Hey, hey.

1:20:28Chad Johnson:Nah, nah. I'm on the road. We ain't got it with me tonight. We ain't got it tonight. I'm on the road right now. We're going to celebrate when I get home, though.

1:20:39Shannon Sharpe:Ocho Domas. Don't mess with Big Texas. Talk your ish, Ocho. And to all Thunder fans, flopping ain't always going to work. Let's go. like I said when you saw those guys tonight I was like okay okay look at them say hey they're gonna let them play tonight they did let them play tonight they did what's up nightcap iso what's more important a point guard to get the ball or a score who can get to his spot a score who can get to a spot now this this was the 80s or the 90s or the early 2000s I'd say a point guard.

1:21:21Chad Johnson:But it depends. What type of offense are you running? Yeah, it depends. I mean, you look at Houston here. They got a score who can get to his damn spot. But they need a damn point guard, too. Oh, yeah.

1:21:34Shannon Sharpe:The triangle offense really doesn't require a prototypical point guard.

1:21:39Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:21:40Shannon Sharpe:But you got two of the greatest score one-on-one scores in the history of the game.

1:21:44Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:21:44Shannon Sharpe:But most teams didn't have that, doesn't have that. Right.

1:21:54Shannon Sharpe:breaking news there's no more king iso only king ocho y 'all so quick to laugh at his takes and predictions both of y 'all owe him an apology not just for this series but the

1:22:05Chad Johnson:whole nba playoffs hey hello man damn his damn an apology to his hey he won't get it hello you won't get it for me hey don't worry about the people know along with the people

1:22:19Shannon Sharpe:You ain't get no apology. I don't care what they know. You ain't got to apologize. I know. And won't. Hello.

1:22:30Shannon Sharpe:OKC might need to see J-Dub to the Lakers to get the most dominant man in the NBA. Who? Abomination to help stop Wimby.

1:22:40Chad Johnson:Oh, man. Come on, man. Come on. Come on, man. That's right. That's right.

1:22:49Shannon Sharpe:Fellas, rate these playoff performers worst to best playoff performance this season. Chet Aiton, Durin. This right here Chet was the worst performance of anybody. Aiton second and Durin third. At least Durin out there trying though.

1:23:09Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:23:10Shannon Sharpe:Chet with a four point performance Joe.

1:23:13Chad Johnson:That's tough bro.

1:23:14Shannon Sharpe:Four points.

1:23:15Chad Johnson:Because you counted on him. You needed him. You was at home. You needed him.

1:23:23Damn.

1:23:23Shannon Sharpe:These boys were playing like the game point at the rec center. Y 'all better call your own foul. I love this. I did. I love this. I love. Let them play. Let them play. Do you understand? Had they let the OKC Thunder shoot 35, 40 free throws, Joe, what would have been saying?

1:23:44Chad Johnson:Damn.

1:23:44Shannon Sharpe:the players on the court determine the game tonight.

1:23:48Chad Johnson:Yep.

1:23:49Shannon Sharpe:Not a rest whistle.

1:23:50Chad Johnson:Absolutely. Absolutely. And as a fan, that's what you want to see.

1:24:00Shannon Sharpe:Breaking news, the first postseason trade ever. The Thunder have traded Chet Hungry to the Bucks for Giannis.

1:24:08Chad Johnson:Hey, hey.

1:24:10Shannon Sharpe:Boy, Chet, you go here, bro. I hope you got thin skin. Now, sound, it takes a while to sound to get up to those ears because you real tall. But, boy, you better have some earmuffs on, some earbuds in. Boy, they going to – hey, I just want you to know.

1:24:28Chad Johnson:There you go.

1:24:29Shannon Sharpe:Until next season, they going to light your ass up. Yeah. Yeah.

1:24:34Chad Johnson:Yep, until you back in that situation again. Yep, yep. Oh, they going to be back in tonight. They definitely going to be back in. He's going to have a chance to redeem himself again.

1:24:45Shannon Sharpe:Okay. All these other NBA fan bases just wanted to see OK lose, not get to see Wimby and hate him for the next 10, 15 years. Side note, Chet the F out of here.

1:24:58Chad Johnson:Damn. I don't think they're going to hate on Wimby, bro. I think he's hard to hate on, man. Yeah, bro. Because it seems as though he cared too much for the game, and that's a good thing.

1:25:12Shannon Sharpe:Guys, Lou Dort has to be the worst starter on a championship team that I've ever seen. No way he's back next season. Love the show. Nah, he wasn't coming back. Not when you got Wallace, you got Mitchell, and you got Caruso.

1:25:25Chad Johnson:He a free agent? I think they got a club option for$18 million. They got to figure it out. I think because they do have three first-round picks, they got to figure out what they're going to do with their roster for real.

1:25:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they gotta get up off there.

1:25:43Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:25:48Shannon Sharpe:Define Frank Castle and Victor Black Mamanyama. Tell Ocho P.S. Frank Castle is the Punisher, fellas. Y 'all remember Frank Castle the Punisher?

1:26:03Chad Johnson:I don't know who that is. Who was that?

1:26:05Shannon Sharpe:Nah. That's the Punisher, the series. I never watched the Punisher, huh? Joe, you ain't never watched the Punisher. I know you done seen it, Joe.

1:26:16Chad Johnson:I probably had, I'd have heard of it.

1:26:18Shannon Sharpe:I'd have heard of it, but...

1:26:21Chad Johnson:But yeah, hey, hey, hey. Castle one of my favorite guards to watch now.

1:26:27Shannon Sharpe:Oh yeah, hey, Castle don't take no mess. Hey, but you see how Dylan Harper had to tackle it, but he about to stop a mother hole by the crew, so.

1:26:36Chad Johnson:Hey, because he about to mess up the church's money. You hear me? Yeah, man. What?

1:26:43Shannon Sharpe:Chet should have won Western Conference MVP. He upped the Spurs out tremendously. This is my Charles Barkley boys. I guarantee he gets traded this offseason for Giannis. And Dort, he gone too. Hey, man. I don't know. Man, y 'all just can't think just because you put two great players together. Chet and Giannis don't fit.

1:27:04Chad Johnson:They don't. You mean Giannis and Shea?

1:27:08Shannon Sharpe:I mean, yeah, Chet and – I mean, Giannis and Shea.

1:27:10Chad Johnson:Hey, yeah.

1:27:15Shannon Sharpe:Ocho Dama strikes again, Spurs in six. Let's go, baby. Ethical Hoops is back. Nah, he taking the Knicks. He said he got y 'all this far. It's over with now.

1:27:29Chad Johnson:Yep.

1:27:30Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, why do analytics guys want so many threes now? Seems like every other shot is a three. Good call on the Spurs, Ocho. I wouldn't say analytics have anything to do with threes. I mean, just the game has evolved to that point. I mean, it all started with Steph, too, huh? Yeah, but they say analytics. They say if you make seven threes, you got – if I make – think about it, Ocho. If I make seven threes in order for you to beat me, you got to make ten twos. Yeah.

1:28:01Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

1:28:03Shannon Sharpe:So I make 15. I make 15. I make 15 threes. You got to make 22 twos. So you taking a 21 foot two. Bro, go take that foot back and go to make a 22. Make a get to get us that extra point.

1:28:19Chad Johnson:Yeah. Unless you're looking at it now. Unless you're bonafide pure score and you shooting 53 % from the field like Shea was this year. They rather a three over two any day.

1:28:31Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely.

1:28:37Shannon Sharpe:Nixon for OKC, we need to trade Dort, Hongra, and two picks for Giannis.

1:28:42Chad Johnson:Damn.

1:28:44Shannon Sharpe:Jesus.

1:28:47Shannon Sharpe:If Ocho tear y 'all grass will turn to cheese, start hustling crackers. Hey, I'm with you when you're right now. They're going to start listening to me. What a win by the Spurs, your champ. He got to go. He got some B-I-T-C-H this time. Package Dort. Chet, some picks for Giannis.

1:29:14Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Iso. It's my son Kobe's birthday today. He turns 10. He's watching. Can he get a happy birthday? Kobe Lee, shout out. Please appreciate y 'all. Absolutely. Appreciate you watching. Kobe Lee, happy 10th birthday. Happy birthday, bro. Double digits now. Happy birthday. Happy 10th. And hopefully your team won today. Happy 10th. Baseball won tonight. Excuse me. Basketball won tonight. Go Spurs go. We don't mess with unethical hoops. Love the show, guys. As a 20-year Spurs fan, I'm glad to see them win by Shea Flopidopoulos. Go Spurs go. Hello, guys. I hit everyone except up home run he's a disgrace to number seven making all that money running around with his head down

1:30:09Chad Johnson:come on man it's a learning learning experience for him man learning he's hey i know they wanted last year but they had a lot of injuries that were unfortunate and uh it thrust him into a role obviously he wasn't ready for it

1:30:25Shannon Sharpe:y 'all have to realize OKC missing their second and third best score

1:30:34Shannon Sharpe:they missed them against the Lakers give them credit give them credit Spurs just played better just played better it don't matter Wimbenyama, Barack Obama Yokohama bring the drama Nixon 6. Hey, grab your Twix. Chet has to go. Unacceptable. Damn. Trade Chet, J-Dub, two bench players, five first-rounders for Giannis. Damn everything. SGA needs a co-star. Chet, got to go. It ain't that easy, fellas. Nope. Wimby the Monk, Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee. It's time to learn some Chinese Kung Fu. Spurs in five. Refs didn't reward flops. Iso, Unk, basketball IQ is chopped. Ocho stayed consistent. His seat got hot.

1:31:35Shannon Sharpe:Wimmy got Wimmy the goat, but Cornette saved the game with that block. Spurs in five the next round. OKC need to send Chet and multiple first-round picks to Milwaukee for Giannis. Seems that be the reoccurring theme, Joe. Everybody want Giannis to go to OKC. Do you think the Spurs would be in the finals right now if CP3 stayed another year? Look, I don't know what it was, but these guys matured extremely fast.

1:32:07Chad Johnson:Yeah. They did.

1:32:11Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Castle, I mean, think about it. Wimbledon was rookie of the year. Castle was rookie of the year. Dylan Harper played unbelievable. I think he finished what? third in the MVP voting behind yeah yeah yeah

1:32:26Chad Johnson:yeah

1:32:28Shannon Sharpe:everything happened it was right where they supposed to be yeah Chet is Wimby's son met pet no sweat parlay bet and the award for biggest disappearing act by a max contract player goes to Chet Spurs to the finals damn Sam Presti gonna package either Chet or J-Dub and some picks for Giannis. After this performance by Chet and consistent injury by J-Dub,

1:33:02Shannon Sharpe:despite having a fifth foul, Chet didn't want to smoke with Wimby. That boy walking$200 million disgrace. Woo! Ocho, you don't know ball. All you done is go out to the offices of everyone when he got lucky, that's not annoying, boss. That's called luck.

1:33:23And another one in denial. Another one in denial. Charles Barkley, tell Charles Barkley

1:33:32Shannon Sharpe:that big backs are getting laid in San Antonio tonight.

1:33:41Shannon Sharpe:I've been saying Chet's trash for a while. People thought I was tripping. Nah, Chet Ben Simmons. Oh, man, come on, bro. Nike FM, I'm mad at work tonight. Thunderwell Chet sold me tonight. My friends had a bet Shea dropped down to 40. If Chet gets paid$240 million to be a pathetic, pack him up. In a couple of years, Harper and Wimby will be something like Kobe and Shaq. what they do they got help the league got hell on their hands if they that man what nicks win the finals iso gotta pay ocho his money and the crown is officially bestowed on ocho and ocho only

1:34:26Chad Johnson:nah hell nah hey joe the people have spoken joe i give you hey you only way you could get the crown is if you if you could score a bucket on me joe the people hey joe i'm gonna whoop your ass and bad I mean anything about that man that's easy work that's easy work but anyway the people that spoken Joe no no no ain't nobody spoke yeah no the people have spoken Joe no no hey King Ocho

1:34:51Shannon Sharpe:hello and still hey hey hey hey hey are you right and still wrong that's what you and still wrong That's your new phrase. SGA got to take those APs back from those boys. Two shots is disgusting. Wimby had that man Chet shook.

1:35:13Chad Johnson:Hey, Wimby took this person, fellas. He took it personal. Hey, man, that's a good thing to do, though. Take the APs back? Yeah, take it back from Chet. Nah. You don't need to tell time.

1:35:28Shannon Sharpe:Come on, man. Come on, nah. You don't need to tell time. Chance and y 'all, I'm going to give you another one because your time up here.

1:35:37Shannon Sharpe:Shatter, how do you see yourself as an introvert when you were the locker room leader? God rest his soul and goose. Me and him both know you ain't no damn introvert. Did you ever end up getting your restitution? No. I'm an introvert. If I come in a locker room, it's like when you're in a structured setting, Ocho, you're different. I'm different in a locker room than I am when I'm out in public I don't really be out in public go to the gym, I don't really be talking to anybody I get on the plane, I'm in the airport, I'm sitting down going about my business, I'm out of there somebody sitting next to me, they ask me a question, I say yeah, thank you I appreciate that support, yeah, tell Ocho, we love the show, tell Iso that's it

1:36:27Shannon Sharpe:structured, controlled environment, yeah, I feel I can be myself. Because here's the thing, Ocho. The thing is, is that I had somebody told me today that somebody said, man, they said, man, they saw you and they told me you was going to come visit them. Say, I know him. That's a lie. I say, see, that's why I don't really talk to people. Because if people are allowing you when you don't talk to them, what would they say if you talked to them two, three, four minutes?

1:36:52Chad Johnson:Hello. They'll make one up.

1:36:55Shannon Sharpe:And that's why you have to be mindful of that. Because if you notice, you know, because the thing is, what I've noticed, Ocho and Joe, and just, you know, spend a lot of time, you know, hate is lonely. Yeah. A person won't hate you by themselves. What would they do, Joe, Ocho?

1:37:09Chad Johnson:They won't come.

1:37:09Shannon Sharpe:Try to get other people to hate you. Misery loves company, yeah. So I can't, if you just, so that's what they do. I ain't got time for that. because if they don't know, if they can't tell something on you, they'll make up something. Yes sir, every time. People ain't really see me out nowhere or do anything and they just, oh, I know him, I know him. Everybody, every woman that comes on club station, oh, you're up, up, done talked to him. Oh Lord, that person. I said, Lord, that's why I just spent so much time by myself. It's just easier that way, Joe, it's just easier.

1:37:49Chad Johnson:I already know.

1:37:50Shannon Sharpe:Keep confusion down. Oh, man.

1:37:53Chad Johnson:Hello. Hello.

1:37:55Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all be saying all that stuff. I'm like, okay, sure. That's exactly what's happening. That's exactly what happened. As y 'all tell it.

1:38:05Chad Johnson:You know what it is, man. You know what they say. Conversation rules the nation, huh? Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. You holding them big boy conversations, man. You know, they going to speculate.

1:38:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they'll make it up.

1:38:20Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:38:22Shannon Sharpe:I let them. I used to try to make, because here's the thing. If you, well, if it wasn't true, you wouldn't say anything. Okay? You don't say anything. It must be true. Right. If it wasn't true, you come out. So how do I win? You don't, you can't. If I say, hit dog, holler. And if I don't say anything, it must be true. So how do I win?

1:38:42Chad Johnson:You can't win.

1:38:44Shannon Sharpe:I give up. Hey, I'd have turned it to, but hey, from now, if not for the longest, from moving forward, like when people say something, I'm Chet. I'm turning to Chet performers. Oh man, come on, man. I'm giving them that kind of performance, Joe. Come on, man.

1:38:58Chad Johnson:Come on. Come on now.

1:39:00Shannon Sharpe:I would give a Chet performance. I don't care what they say. Believe what you want. They're gonna believe what they want anyway. Oh, Joe. No, you know, hey, bro, you know I don't care. Yeah. Well, yeah, we know. Joe and I gathered that as much. Hey, matter of fact, I got one for y 'all, man. I forgot to tell y 'all. What? What the football player said to the flight attendant?

1:39:29Shannon Sharpe:What the football player say to the flight attendant?

1:39:39You want to catch a pass? No. What you got, Joe?

1:39:46Chad Johnson:I don't know, Ocho. Hey, man, the football player said to the flight attendant, put me in coach.

1:40:06Shannon Sharpe:That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. Man, Ocho, you need help. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. want to thank you as the San Antonio Spurs do what many didn't think they could do. They go on the road in a game seven and beat the defending champs with the two-time MVP on their roster and they take them down. Tremendous, tremendous, tremendous victory. Victor Wimbenyama was the Magic Johnson Western Conference player, most valuable player, but he got great contributions from Champinney. He got Vassell. He got Darren Fox, had his best game. Stephon Castle was a dog all game long.

1:40:46Shannon Sharpe:He's been a dog all series long. And then Kelton Johnson was sensational. Dylan Harper was great off the bench. And even Carter Bryant, he only played three minutes. But he was great. And the play of the night belonged to a guy that I've been critical of. Cornette. He had the block of the night on Hartenstein that flipped him off, that kept because that place was about to erupt. They was about to be down by two, and then they come down and hit a three, and they didn't look back. So congratulations, San Antonio Spurs. And I think we're going to have a great series. I'm hoping for a great series.

1:41:27Shannon Sharpe:And the Knicks and the Spurs, you got New York Knicks who hadn't been to the NBA Finals since 1999, and if I'm not mistaken, they haven't won it since 1970, what? Three? 72, 73? and here we go. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite Unc. There's my partner and co-host. He got it right. He picked the San Antonio Spurs to beat the OKC Thunder, the rock runner extraordinaire, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all-pro. That is Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. And we missed it tonight, Joe, but we'll get it next time. Y 'all know the Silky Smooth shooting guard from the Atlanta Hawks, a seven-time NBA All-Star, and he was a Big 3 MVP, led the league, and scored in his first year.

1:42:16Shannon Sharpe:That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you, guys. Thank you for your eyes, for your ears, and your word of mouth. All of this is possible thanks to you. Hopefully you'll join us for the NBA Finals because we'll be coming in, coming after every single game. Yes, sir. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier, head over to LaportierCognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you.

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1:43:35Shannon Sharpe:We're back tomorrow night. Thank you guys for joining us tonight. Peace.

1:44:26We'll see you next time.

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