Nightcap Hour 2: Chris Finch calls ref Tony Brothers 'completely unprofessional' + Steve Kerr is BACK with WARRIORS + WNBA Opening WEEKEND

10 May 2026 · 49 min · 17 chapters

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In short

Nightcap Hour 2 is a sports talk episode mixing NBA officiating complaints, playoff series debate, Warriors coaching news, and WNBA opening-weekend reactions.

Guests

Joe (a former player/coach-type voice who tells stories about playing against the Clippers in Utah and about NFL officiating/playing experiences), and Ocho (a co-host who argues about team matchups, player roles, and fashion/spectacle around WNBA games).

Key claims

Chris Finch criticized referee Tony Brothers as “completely unprofessional,” and Joe defends Brothers’ reputation for not taking “shit.” They argue Sixers face an “uphill climb” down 3-0 versus the Knicks and predict no Monday/Tuesday games if Philly loses. They praise Jalen Brunson’s 33-point performance in a Knicks win, while criticizing Embiid’s lack of rhythm when not fully healthy. Steve Kerr’s return is discussed as potentially keeping Steph/Draymond together, but they doubt the Warriors’ roster can contend.

Notable examples

Brunson 33, Knicks 94 points, Angel Reese’s WNBA debut with 11 points/14 rebounds/3 blocks and a late comeback by the team.

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Chris Finch vs. Tony Brothers

2:07 to 3:26

Analyzing Chris Finch's comments on referee Tony Brothers' professionalism.

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Referee Dynamics in the NBA

3:26 to 6:21

Discussing the nature of referee behavior and player interactions in the NBA.

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Complaining to Referees

6:21 to 7:22

The consequences of players complaining to referees during games.

“The Capers and Ed Malloy, I don't know the other referee, but they got some bulljive tonight though for the Lakers game.”

NBA Team Dynamics and Draft Picks

7:22 to 11:25

Exploring the importance of team composition and upcoming draft prospects.

“Hey, fouls gonna get missed from time to time.”

Steve Kerr's Contract with Warriors

11:25 to 13:20

Breaking news on Steve Kerr's agreement to return to the Warriors.

“Well, because if they get a number three pick or.”

Knicks vs. 76ers Game Recap

13:20 to 14:01

Analyzing the Knicks' victory over the 76ers and standout performances.

“they get the number one pick what you already know they take it to Bob you playing him and JJ together Jalen Shit.”

Knicks Triumph Over Philly

14:01 to 18:11

Discussing the Knicks' surprising victory against Philadelphia and standout players.

“I can't believe y 'all tried to skip that game because both of y 'all had Philly winning.”

Embiid's Impact on Philly's Performance

18:11 to 22:25

Exploring Embiid's influence on the Sixers' game and how it affects team dynamics.

“Listen, everything you just said was a hypothetical.”

Brunson's Contract and Future

22:25 to 28:00

Analyzing Brunson's contract situation and implications for the Knicks' roster.

“Oh, hey, listen, they make it in the home game.”

Steve Kerr's Return and Team Dynamics

28:00 to 30:49

Discussion on Steve Kerr's return to the Warriors and the implications for the team's future, including Draymond's role.

“Steve Kerr has agreed to a two-year contract to return as head coach of the Warriors.”
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LeBron's Future Moves

30:50 to 33:44

Speculation on LeBron James' potential moves in the NBA, including a possible return to the East.

“Do you see any scenario where LeBron ends up in Golden State next year?”

Warriors' Aging Roster and Future Prospects

33:45 to 38:08

Analysis of the aging roster of the Warriors and the potential strategies for rebuilding and future success.

“You know when them lottery balls come up, Joe?”

Player Roles and Team Strategy

38:09 to 42:00

Exploration of roles within a basketball team and how those impact overall strategy and player performance.

“Yeah, I wouldn't want to leave neither, but I just can't.”

Comparing Sports Personalities

42:00 to 45:34

A humorous discussion comparing basketball and football personalities based on play styles.

“My man said, hey, Joe, you're going to be DeAndre Ayton.”

WNBA Season Insights

45:34 to 47:55

Discussion about the WNBA opening weekend, highlighting key player performances and game outcomes.

“Yeah, personally - Personality-wise, but y 'all games ain't going to eat now.”

Fashion Trends in Sports

47:55 to 49:18

A lively conversation about the evolving fashion standards and styles seen in professional sports today.

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Personal Style and Fashion Shows

49:18 to 52:07

Exploration of personal style and thoughts on attending high-profile fashion shows and events.

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3:31Shannon Sharpe:Chris Finch calls out Tony Brothers. Oh, Joe, we're talking about Tony Brothers. Finch says, I wanted a timeout. I said I want my three seconds back. He clearly heard me. He lost it. Then I went and asked him where the ball was going to be taken in and he was screaming at me for that. It's completely unprofessional to hate you by him. Joe, you talked about Tony Brothers the other night. You're like, Tony, don't be talking about it.

3:55Chad Johnson:Hey, I told y 'all, that's one referee I know for sure he ain't taking no shit. Okay, old Joe. Let me tell you something. When I was playing in Utah, and we were playing against the Clippers, we was a five seed, they was a four seed. We in the playoff. I don't ever complain about calls. Man, he missed a call on me one time, and I said something to him, and that man ready to fight me, bro. On the court, you hear me? I'm like, damn, bro. Hey, look, you see how he ran at that coach? from yeah yeah i told y 'all man hey he ain't taking no stuff from nobody bro you know hey and that's that's why he's respected around the league

4:38Shannon Sharpe:yeah he's like hold on hold on now hold on you're getting out of hand with this bro you getting out of hand i don't know what you were thinking what you what you what you thought i was about like rick james rich james said to the little lady in the back i don't know who you thought i would but i'm rick james but the lady told the story did y 'all hear the lady tell the story about she's the lady thought that was slick rick oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah who you thought i was but i rick james i've seen that i've seen that when he came out again I wonder why he's elected. He was mad.

5:20He was mad, boy. He was mad. That was a good story.

5:25Shannon Sharpe:If you were 80s, baby, you know anything about the 80s, you already know Rick James was like me. Oh, yeah.

5:31Chad Johnson:Yes, sir.

5:33Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't very many people bigger than Rick James. That was Tony Brothers saying, I'm Chris Finch. I don't know who you thought I was, but I'm Tony Brothers. I told y 'all.

5:49Shannon Sharpe:So what do you think will happen? You think they're going to reprimand him? They're going to say anything? They may have said something,

5:54Chad Johnson:but it ain't going to be no repercussions behind it. I don't really see no big deal. I mean, yeah, he was a bit demonstrative, but hell, didn't nothing go down. Hey, listen, it's good to see a ref show a little personality. That's all I'm saying, man. It's good to see. They always robots. I'll tell you what. They always robots all the time. So it's good to see someone show they still human, too. I bet you won't jump at Tony Brothers no damn more.

6:24Shannon Sharpe:Man, hey, these jokers here, man. The Capers and Ed Malloy, I don't know the other referee, but they got some bulljive tonight though for the Lakers game. LeBron can't get that air one call like when the people jump, when he hit him up in the air and they jump into him, he can't get that call the same as life. He should have been shooting through on that one. I agree. But he said he said he said he said AR had one and they end up calling an offensive foul offensive foul on Rui. So they went from shooting three to get a foul that the other team made a three. You see what happened when you huddle up with the refs at the end of the game?

7:03God damn. And you complain you complain about stuff? You think they're going to get you calls in that game? Nah, y 'all y 'all going to have to play through that contact.

7:10Chad Johnson:And I ain't going to lie to you. I'm sick of seeing dudes whining and complaining every damn other play, man. It's just foul. Hey, flailing all over the same joke. At the end of the day, in basketball, it's a little different. Hey, fouls gonna get missed from time to time. That's just part of it, bro. You gotta see. Yeah. Yes, they're human. When you don't play through it here, you giving up points on the other end. Yeah.

7:34Shannon Sharpe:Cause you back there complaining to the Fisher. You looking at the Fisher, he's like, I ain't got the ball. You didn't be worried about him that got the ball. The hell.

7:40Chad Johnson:He laying the damn ball up.

7:44Shannon Sharpe:and just like you said Joe you at the lallygagging and what about when you turn it over and so now you mad about the call you turn the ball over you give up a thing and you still looking at the referee the more I'm glad it ain't like that in the NFL because look I bring it to his attention I say yeah he held me on that one yeah all right all right all right 84 we missed it hey we'll make sure we look catch it the next time got me a touchdown on that in the playoff game championship game. Yeah. To the teacher. Second down. Hey, Mr. Ralph. He spent me. He helped me. He heard me tell the official the back judge that.

8:22Shannon Sharpe:He was right there. Could have made the play. He pulled his hands back. I called it. Went to the house against the Raiders on the AFC championship game. Yeah. Go watch it. You can see he's about to get but he heard what I had told official. Yeah. He pulled his hands back. By the time. By the time he thought about what he had done.

8:39Chad Johnson:You were hitting with that there. You were hitting at the head.

8:50Shannon Sharpe:Making sure there ain't nobody coming from the side. They were coming from the blind spot, but I was gone. Out of there. Yeah, but Tony. I was like, well, damn, Tony. I hope you had the game on Monday. I was like, Tony, what you was doing? Hey, hey, don't waste your money. I'm telling you now. Go ahead. It's too late. I already got committed. Oh, you did? I did.

9:12Chad Johnson:They finally get one with you in the house. I got to get them chicken tenders. Hey, Joe, don't do that, man. I'm trying to give hope because he think he bad luck. Hey, that ain't hope. That's false hope. Don't do that, Joe. That's like your mama lied to you when you're a little kid and talk about Santa, Santa, Santa, the one who bought them goddamn gifts. Ocho, Ocho.

9:33Shannon Sharpe:We're back here, Ocho. Get one what? We did get, hey, you remember I went to of the game when they beat the Rockets. That was the Rockets. Y 'all playing the Thunder.

9:41Chad Johnson:You ain't got no confidence when they playing it. You say when you go against the Thunder, they get beat. Hey, maybe it's a closeout game, man. You go back there and give them a little speech or something. Hey, fella, next year, we got to come back. We got to. Oh, next year?

9:55Shannon Sharpe:Bad nigga. They can't beat them next year. They need some wing defenders. They need somebody that can defend. It's like, you see what Shea. Shea scored, but they got defenders They got this for Shea. They got Lou Dort. They got Wallace. They got Joe. They got a champ. Hey, the Lakers ain't constructed like that. They stuck right now. They're constructed like that. But look, I think the thing is that this, but they do got Mitchell. Mitchell might, if Mitchell's a free agent, he gone.

10:28Chad Johnson:He gone. They can't pay him to keep him around. They probably give him a little something for him to stay around.

10:37Shannon Sharpe:You want 50 million or you want 125? Phoenix would try to get you a little something. Hold on.

10:42Chad Johnson:This is different times. Look. Phoenix. Phoenix trying to get you a little something. You got to understand. Yeah, they may be able to give him about 50, 60 for him to stay around and be on a championship contender team. Or you saying, like, he get 120 and go to Chicago and they get in their

11:03Shannon Sharpe:and be his team. He probably going to go somewhere. Because think about it. They still got McCain. They got some good. He be letting it fly. You still got Wallace. You still got Isaiah Joe. You still got Caruso. You still got McCain. Even if you lose a picture.

11:19Chad Johnson:Hold on. OKC got some big things they finna do because the lottery come out tomorrow and they gonna get a top four, top five pick. So now they can package that and go. OKC got a good problem over there. They got a good problem. Well, because if they get a number three pick or.

11:39Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm trying to think. Nah, that wouldn't be a good pick. Because I said, I tell you what we do. We'd be willing to give you Mitchell. But it mess up everything. Because if we give you Mitchell and our lottery pick, you give us Giannis. But he'll mess up. They don't need Giannis. Because if you go get Giannis, then you just going to bring Hardenstein off the bench. You got to. You play check. Or you might package him. and then you have Giannis, Chet, Shea, J-Dub,

12:07Chad Johnson:I don't think so. I wouldn't do it. Because you got to understand the culture that they have, you know, the brotherhood that they have, the chemistry that they have. If you... That'll mess everything up. Oh, man.

12:20Shannon Sharpe:Because Giannis trying to get... But what if they get the number one pick? If they get DeBonza. Somebody go on. Two of those guards go on for sure.

12:28Chad Johnson:If they get the number one pick and they get AJ, yeah. Somebody got...

12:38Chad Johnson:or they might not want to rely on no rookie though i mean if you get the number one pick you probably probably keep it but if they get a three or four pick that's still gonna be a hell of a player that's a good problem over there man damn they might be winning the tricker you know sam prestid like draft picks he had a hundred damn sam prestid my hawks we need a top pick we need a top four pick top four top five pick we good I ain't saying we gotta have number one if we get the top four or five pick

13:15Shannon Sharpe:boy if y 'all get number one boy Joe be throwing the party over there

13:18Chad Johnson:we gonna show out on nightcap they get the number one pick what

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13:24Shannon Sharpe:you already know they take it to Bob

13:25Chad Johnson:you playing him and JJ together Jalen Shit. What are you talking about?

13:33Shannon Sharpe:What are you going to do with Dyson Daniels? Are you going to bring him up the bench? I don't really want to get into the conversation.

13:40Chad Johnson:I'll be at the arena, but you know, hey, hey, hey.

13:52Shannon Sharpe:Steve Kerr has agreed to a two-year contract to return to the Warriors. Hey, hold on, man. What's up? We ain't talk about the Knicks.

14:01Chad Johnson:Oh, man, he's been waiting. Yeah, yeah, I've been waiting on this. Y 'all trying to skip. Don't skip. Let's get on these Knicks. Okay, let's pull up the Knicks. Yeah, pull them up. I can't believe y 'all tried to skip that game because both of y 'all had Philly winning.

14:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had Philly winning. The New York Knicks. Yeah. The New York Knicks won by 14. Yes. Jalen Brunson, 33 points. Mikael Bridges had 23. Josh Hart had 12. And Landry Shamit came off the bench and made two or three three-pointers. He gave you 15. Even though they were absent, O.J., O.G. and Ananobi, it did not matter because it was more than enough.

14:48Chad Johnson:Hey, look. The Knicks, Brunson was awesome. Y 'all know it. Hold on. You talk about the same Brunson that y 'all said. Eskimo's going to have a good game against? All Eskimo's going to do is have to sit in the chair and stop him? Ain't that the one? Ain't y 'all the same two that said if OG is out, Philly's probably going to win his game, especially if MP was... That was y 'all two, right? Man, listen. Hold on. Ain't no listen. Listen, y 'all disrespected the Knicks, so I want you to be just as loud as you was when you talked about it the other night. But, Ocho, this is Jekyll and Hyde shit I'm talking about with.

15:28Chad Johnson:Philly, when Embiid plays, and look at Maxie Nomas, bro. I need him, I just need him more aggressive than this.

15:34Shannon Sharpe:He took 12 shots.

15:36Chad Johnson:I'm talking about it's too many points of the game where he just kind of, it's like he just out there and no man. Just drifts. You know what I mean? And it's a lot of antics going on out there, a lot of flailing, flopping, a lot of WWE with Embiid. It's a lot going on now. It's a lot going on. to mess up the floor of the game, you know. Like, damn. But you look at Brunson, you look at Hart, you look at Bridges, they have familiar territory. They went to Villanova, man. What can I say? I mean, but you knew that. You knew that before the series started. You hear me? You knew that before you picked Philly to win this game because OG was hurt and he was out.

16:17You understood that. When I told y 'all before the series started, who is going to stop Brunson? Big body Brunson at that. y 'all ate y 'all was oh man escrow he gonna he gonna he gonna make it difficult he gonna pick him up 94 goddamn feet and all this other garbage y 'all were talking about and what happened look

16:34Shannon Sharpe:what happened they rented that they were so many people

16:42hold on cat didn't even have a good game cat didn't have a good game we we need cat we need cat

16:50Shannon Sharpe:but you don't know pat cat didn't have a good game scoring but he gave you 12 rebounds and seven assists in only one time. They've been playing

16:56Chad Johnson:through Cat at that high post, meaning like for him to ball, and he been getting a lot of dimes from that. That's how he had what, two triple doubles against the Hawks? Yeah, that part out. But I think he played hell of a defense on Embiid. I just think the back and forth is just a little too much for the game, meaning for guys for Philly. These are young guys who can't really get in rhythm. Look at Paul. He couldn't get in no rhythm neither. It's just, I don't know man Philly got some decisions they got to make too huh

17:28Shannon Sharpe:what decision they got to make you know what you told me they ain't got to make no decision I didn't say that who said that oh yeah but yeah yeah yeah yeah because we was talking about we was talking about the Celtics game you talking about but when he's available yeah he got to beat him you know what you told me oh no I mean he is I mean he is when he's available when he's not hurt now I know he slowed the game down the other night matter of fact last night I understand that, but let's not fool ourselves now. That ain't fool's gold. We know what we get with Embiid. Well, he's never healthy. A 70 % Embiid.

17:59You know what you get, okay?

18:01Shannon Sharpe:You ain't winning no championship with no 77 % Embiid. So at this rate right now, how they gonna get past the Knicks? How they gonna get past Detroit? How they gonna get past the Celtics? Hold on. With a healthy Jason Taylor. Listen, everything you just said was a hypothetical. How they gonna get past nobody? A hypothetical is Jordan B being healthy. past the Knicks. So let's start right there. Maybe he needs to change his scenery. Maybe he needs to change his scenery. Now you take somebody like I'm beating, you put him in the right situation. You put him in the right situation. Now we talking.

18:36Shannon Sharpe:You just told me they don't need to trade this man. Joe. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say that. I just said what he can do when he's available. I didn't say whether they need to let him go or not See I don't You talking about they gonna trade him You gonna trade that I saw this man score 70 points I was there live I seen it with my own eye Joe I couldn't believe it You played two games He scored that 70 points

19:11Shannon Sharpe:They play a different game Maxie is up Want to get up and down Etch can want to get up and down. The middle is clogged when he's there. You can't get up and down. Guys can't slash to the basket. He's going to stop the ball. When he get the ball, the ball ain't moving. He's going to get by three or four dribbles and try to get close to the basket.

19:33Chad Johnson:It is what it is. When I'm watching sometimes, don't get me wrong, they need him at times, but you just need a healthy dose of it. I mean, every trip down the damn court, man, we can't throw you the ball, bro. I'm sorry. It just bogs the offense down to where there's no continuity with guys who've been playing together and the ball don't hop no more. We ain't really getting great looks. Like, you know, it's just a big difference that I noticed.

20:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, for sure. It is. Hey, Joe, run them plays that get him up out that goddamn paint. Get some movement. Hey, listen, get some movement going offensively so we don't clog up the goddamn hole. Listen, this transition going down, you ain't part of the offense. Come on out here.

20:26Chad Johnson:Let them boys run something else. He ain't going to just be standing at the three. The thing is, if y 'all run the pick and roll on the left side here, he going to be on the right block over here trying to find a way to inch his way in there. I mean then if you run a pick and roll with him he gonna stop right there at the free throw line or at the top of the key he gonna catch it and he gonna run out about seven seconds on the clock just by holding jab and trying to figure out what he gonna do so it just takes the rhythm out of the guys bro that's the biggest thing I noticed you know guys you really don't get a lot of cuts and easy baskets a lot of their baskets are tough baskets playing against this Knicks team it shouldn't be that way They only scored 94 points, bro.

21:09Chad Johnson:They at home. Come on, man.

21:13Shannon Sharpe:So what you recommend, Joe, how does the Sixers extend this series? Because if they don't win tomorrow, there is no Monday. Well, I can tell you there is no Tuesday game. Ain't going to be no Tuesday game. Ain't going to be no Monday. Let's start there. Now, Joe, you can come up with a scenario or a hypothetical that the 76ers can do to hope they win. But I can tell you that ain't going to happen.

21:42Chad Johnson:But go ahead. It's going to be hard for Philly to win because when you think about it, they got such a huge uphill climb down 3-0. From the Knicks, I'm going to take the rest. I don't care what you mean. I want to go and get these boys out of here, man. And, you know, we know OG hurt. Let's see if we can get us some time off. Because this Detroit series, if Cleveland wins another game here, you know, this could potentially be a seven-game series. So, if I'm New York, I'm thinking, man, we got to get these boys out of here. And, look, the Knicks fans still travel here. Philly ain't far from New York.

22:19Chad Johnson:Ain't nothing but a hopping.

22:20Shannon Sharpe:Hell no.

22:22Chad Johnson:Down the street. So, it's damn like a home game to them. Oh, hey, listen, they make it in the home game.

22:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, no, but then no look Bronson Bronson is doing what Bronson does and if you don't Hey, and he's a guy that can struggle because we saw him in game to Joe. He struggled. They did an unbelievable job Yeah, but when they absolutely had to have it Bronson stepped up and that's what he's done His entire career when he's been with the Knicks. He's been unbelievable We saw that when he was at the Mavericks and Luca was out. That's when you saw like, oh, this kid could live his own team. They messed up by not extending him the year before. You let him get the free agency and the little 55, 60 million he had in the New York in that market is going to give him a hundred.

23:10Chad Johnson:I think he took a pay cut. He took a pay cut too, didn't he? Oh, for them to be able to sign all them other guys.

23:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, to get Cat and get Mikael Bridges and all the OG. Yeah. So, hey, Joe, when he back up? When he back up? Yeah.

23:29You know, hey, you know, we work the numbers a little bit, Joe.

23:35Shannon Sharpe:You know what I'm saying? Hold on.

23:36Chad Johnson:When you say he back up?

23:40Chad Johnson:Maybe after this season. Because this is third year day. I thought he didn't just resign. He didn't just sign another deal. I thought he just signed another deal.

23:49Shannon Sharpe:I don't think so. Ash, when is Brunson back up?

24:02Shannon Sharpe:We'll see. But he definitely –

24:06Chad Johnson:Are you going to get that max, Joe? I don't think he's going to take the max, meaning the max for him could be close to 300, 250, 300. I don't think he'll take it just because, you know, if he take that, then they gonna have to get rid of some of these dudes. Dang. Right. What you would do Ocho? They come here, they stay on. To be able to keep all the boys? Yeah, but I'm saying that we got 315 million to give you, but if we, you're probably gonna have to get rid of two of your partners. I tell you what, you know what? I'm not gonna have to take all that because I'm gonna make up for the endorsements anyway.

24:46Chad Johnson:Hey, they stay on TV. They big boys stay on TV, don't they? yeah I'm gonna make up for it and do it hey hold on I'm playing in New York what you gonna do Mr. Sharp hey guys stay in church

25:16Shannon Sharpe:he signed a four year $156 million extension in July 24, which runs through 2829. They includes an option for the final year. By signing early rather than waiting in free agency, he accepted significantly less than his maximum value. Hey, hey, what'd you say? What'd you go tell him, Mark? Y 'all stay in here.

25:42So,

25:43Shannon Sharpe:he'll be eligible for a three play this deal out he'll be eligible for a four year 323 million in 28 or a five year 418 in 2029 how old is he right now how old is Brunson right now

26:01Chad Johnson:let me see

26:02Shannon Sharpe:he gotta be what is Brunson 30

26:1629. 29.

26:20Damn.

26:23Shannon Sharpe:I don't know, Joe. You giving a 32-year-old 323? For five years? Four years. The next year will be five years.

26:34Chad Johnson:He'll be 33, 418. I think they'll definitely give him a three at a crazy number. But four years, that's going to be tough. Yeah. You know, when you get up in age, man, you hit 31, 32, and basketball, they consider you a damn dinosaur. I don't know how they feel about football.

26:52Shannon Sharpe:Oh, it's 30 in the NFL.

26:55Chad Johnson:Yeah. You get by 32 in the NBA, bro. They start looking for your damn backup.

27:04Chad Johnson:Real.

27:06Shannon Sharpe:I can see that. He definitely, after taking this extension, taking this 156 for four, yeah, y 'all need to break me off. I think, at worst case, you know what, Joe? I ain't gonna wait. Don't worry about it. Because I understand, what can I do with 323 that I can only do with 418?

27:28Chad Johnson:Oh, boy.

27:30Shannon Sharpe:I can't run the risk. The risk is, I'll be a year older and then an injury, and you know I'm never getting that. I'm going to take this 323. I'll make this work for me. I'll make this 323 work for me. That'll probably be the best bet. Seriously. Yeah. 80 million, 80 million a year, plus you in New York getting endorsements, another 15, 20 off the table.

27:52Chad Johnson:You just said 80 million a year. That's crazy.

27:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's light, Joe. Huh? That's light, you know. Light, yeah. Steve Kerr has agreed to a two-year contract to return as head coach of the Warriors. The deal keeps Kerr as the highest paid in the NBA annually. He made at least$17.5 million in the last season. Joe, does Kerr coming back to the Warriors at least two more seasons, does that keep the band together? Does that keep Kerr, Steph, and Draymond together for at least two more years?

28:28Chad Johnson:Man, I don't know, fellas. I don't really know how they really feel about Draymond if y 'all just want me to be 100. I know he's a huge part of what they've done, the emotional leader that we always talk about. But I wonder how the coaches really feel about Draymond, how the front office really feel about him. You know what I mean? Yeah.

28:49Shannon Sharpe:The question is, the better question, is that how do other teams feel? Do they feel he will be as valuable to their team as he was to the Warriors? because I don't see, I mean, I ain't really heard people call him like, hey, man, y 'all trying to get up off Draymond? Right. Because we'd love to have him. Do you see calls like that happening? I don't. Now, I'm not saying that he's, I'm saying he's great there for them in that system. But to take him somewhere else and ask him, what are you going to ask him to do? He's not a scorer. He still can defend. He's an okay rebounder. He can run your offense.

29:29Shannon Sharpe:but he don't have the shoe. He ain't got Steph and he doesn't have Klay. So how valuable is he to another team as he was or is to the Warriors?

29:42Chad Johnson:I don't know because ain't nobody got no damn Steph Curry. And I just think that the chemistry that Draymond and Steph has, you know, nobody in the league has that, bro. And so, I mean, it's hard for me to see him playing somewhere else, Uncle Ocho, considering everything that he's done in Golden State, but he got rid of Klay. I just think the one person who they ain't going to ever get rid of is Stephon Kirk. I don't think they're ever going to get rid of him. Steph going to get frustrated. He's going to get frustrated because if you look at it, the way the team is built, the way the team is constructed, they're not constructed to win.

30:17So Steph out there just doing, you know, stat padding. You know, you don't have a chance of winning another ring. I know you already got what? Four? You got four rings already, huh?

30:25Chad Johnson:I think they do got to make some changes, though. I don't know what changes they can really make or if they can even go out and get any big-time free agents. But, I mean, here, you was fighting to get in the play-in. Ain't no way you mean to tell me you bringing Steve Kerr back and y 'all coming back with this same team. No.

30:44Shannon Sharpe:No, I don't see that. You don't have a chance. You're in the play-in and you've been in the play-in the last three years. Hey, what if Draymond does come back? Obviously, I think LeBron is gone. Do you see any scenario where LeBron ends up in Golden State next year? Or is that far-fetched? I don't see that. Look, the Warriors wanted Draymond. I just don't know if – excuse me. The Warriors wanted LeBron, but I don't know if that's something that he was actively searching for. The question is, look, I don't – at the end of the day, what does LeBron want? I don't know how many 50 million 60 million dollar contracts gonna be out there Joe I just be honest not for I understand he's a draw but I don't know if I can if I can bust my roster up bring him on at that number and it because of that I'm trying to win a at the end of the day I'm trying to win a championship that's what he wants hold on you're trying to win a championship but you know closer to the championship with the roster you got now and there's really nobody you can bring in that can get you closer to that championship.

31:54Shannon Sharpe:What are you talking about in the Lakers? I'm talking about over there in the Bay. In Golden State? Yeah. No. I just don't see it. I mean, you got Al Horford over there who's serviceable. But Al got to be pushing for it. Al's about 40.

32:12Chad Johnson:Al's about 40. He's probably about five years younger than me. Oh, five.

32:18Shannon Sharpe:So Al's 40. I mean, Steph's going to be, what, 38, 38, 39?

32:24Chad Johnson:They're going to be an old-ass team, boy. Yeah. Joe, you here, Joe?

32:30Shannon Sharpe:At some point in time, Joe and Ocho, man, look, that's what the Rockets – oh, you had Scottie Pippen, you had Elijah Juan, you had – Barkley? I don't know if Clyde was still there. I think Clyde might have played one year. Yeah, Barkley? I'm not sure. And Barkley, they were way, way past their prime. I mean what do I hope that LeBron will be 42 Al Horford's 40 Steph will be 38 Draymond will be what 36 37 I just don't know what we expect to do what with that

33:03Chad Johnson:Oh Joe 45 in June late June Hey okay Joe okay 45 okay you know what I mean I mean nah you ain't getting up there because listen I'm 58 Joe I still look like I'm 23, you hear me? So you doing something right over there, Joe? I ain't no spring chicken no more, Joe. I used to be good. I used to be real. Hey, I'm glad you know you ain't no spring chicken, boy. Huh? I'm gonna show you you ain't either. You hear me?

33:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Draymond just turned 36.

33:35Chad Johnson:Did he?

33:37Shannon Sharpe:He turned 36 in March.

33:39Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's gonna be interesting what the Golden State, what the Warriors are gonna do. I mean, they brought Kurt back and I'm sure, you know he got some changes he want to make

33:50Shannon Sharpe:Steph is 38 he gonna be 39 he gonna be 39 next year hey he's special he's special though he don't really count well he missed a lot of time this year too though

34:04Chad Johnson:yeah he would hurt what was wrong with him Joe he hurt his knee yeah he hurt his knee and guess what

34:12Shannon Sharpe:injuries start coming with greater regularity mm-hmm hey Steph if you need a nutritionist holla at your boy I get you right Al Horford is 39 hey them boys as a matter of fact he'll be 40 his birthday in June and them boys oh what I don't really know how far a 42 year old a 40 year old a 38 a 38 year old I 39 30 I don't know how far they gonna take you Joe I don't either I just don't Hey, they might be being slick now. You know when them lottery balls come up, Joe? Yeah, what you saying? I can see it play out. Let me see, out the blue, you know you got all these old, old players, right? But you know what?

34:56Hey, we know something under the table. We're going to slide you a new two-year, right? And we're going to make sure you get this lottery pick.

35:04Shannon Sharpe:Hey, all I know is you fool around like David Stern. that day. Hey, I asked the Timberwolves about trying to do contracts under the table.

35:15Chad Johnson:What did it do to you? Set your ass way back.

35:18Shannon Sharpe:Voided the contract, took the next three, you couldn't have a first round pick and blew it up. Hey, listen, I'm just throwing scenarios out there that could be possible. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, listen, you got a team. And then you got Jimmy, I mean, Jimmy Butler's still there, but Jimmy Butler's coming off an ACL injury.

35:41Chad Johnson:That's going to be tough, bro. They had a nice squad this year. Now, see if it happened. They don't remember who said it first. What's that? Did them boys get an early pick? Early that lottery pick? For some reason, that little ping pong ball say Warriors out the blue? I don't know about that, Ocho. I feel you.

36:06Shannon Sharpe:I still don't know how much that's going to help him, Ocho.

36:12Chad Johnson:they just need some young league they do need a big and they the big don't come now they don't come from around the corner like they used to back in the day it's hard to find a big now boy hey where young bull from Purdue went who's that yeah where he went Memphis okay he played I heard that he was playing with they were getting money over there okay yeah trying to think about bigs yeah

36:46Shannon Sharpe:then it'd be so we'll see if they can you know they want to keep this thing together I guess it's like because how many I wonder how many years Steph got on his contract because that'd be that's going to be that's going to be very very interesting I agree

37:07Shannon Sharpe:he unrestricted free engine in 27 so he got this year one year 62 million no hold on he's under contract with Golden State through 26-27 signed a one year extension in August of 24 so he'll set the earns yeah so he got two years left he got two years so it there you go it coincides with what the Steve Kerr contracts coincide with what Steph Curry contract expiring Draymond has this year on his contract a player option for 2627

37:49Chad Johnson:Yeah, they probably

37:51Shannon Sharpe:So if that that's they constructed it like that for a reason, you know I think it's like okay Stefan let them know what he wants to do and They'll do what they do But I just don't see it. I just don't see golden state being a serious straight anymore the way is too deep now oh hey that window closed you see barkley soda the spurs the nuggets i just don't see it i just know that window closed that's why i think uh

38:27Chad Johnson:curry curry gonna have to team up with somebody on i just told

38:33Shannon Sharpe:i told you oh somebody's gonna have to come i don't think he wants to go anywhere joe

38:40Chad Johnson:I don't. Yeah, I wouldn't want to leave neither, but I just can't. I don't see LeBron going to go in state. If I... If... You know LeBron always wanted to play with Curry now. But here's the thing. If LeBron just so happened to leave the Lakers, I think he coming somewhere out east. I don't know where, but I think he'd come somewhere out east so he can get the hell out there at Western Conference, that damn juggernaut out there. Well, what you think about LeBron coming down here with - Put him on Detroit. Nah. What you mean, nah? Yeah. What you mean? With him out, hey. What you think about LeBron coming back - What you talking about, nah.

39:21Think about LeBron coming back to the heat with Giannis and Jock.

39:24Chad Johnson:Well, you can't rule out now. He might go back home. Let's say Cleveland don't get up out of here.

39:32Shannon Sharpe:So what you gonna put, you gonna replace Harden with him?

39:42You know, he ain't got to have the ball in his hand now.

39:44Chad Johnson:Now, you know, some numbers.

39:47Shannon Sharpe:But I think you want the ball in his hand. Huh? In that situation, because you want Donovan, you don't want, you know, Donovan, like, hey, Donovan, do your thing, off the ball.

40:00Chad Johnson:I'm just saying, man. Make that thing work, man. Set the pick for me Joe. No, you said in the pick for me. She the devil is alive. Well, you crazy. You guys said the. Joe man said the pick for me, man. Matter of fact, you know what Joe get your ass out of the way. I so I so I so I so clear that clear that clear that. You can handle by like this or you can see him will play his role. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to play your role. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, I know my role. What's your role? Sit your ass. Get your ass out my way. That ain't your role on our team. If we all on teams, that is not your role.

40:47Hold on, Joe. Joe, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, Joe. Chill. Hey, Joe, if I was a basketball player, you hear me? You got to know, you got to understand your role. Boy, I'm the alpha, Joe. I'm the alpha. I'm running the ship. I'm steering this bitch. Now when I pass it to you, you can do your thing. When I go on the bench, you can do your thing.

41:09Chad Johnson:Let me tell you what the role is. Your role is to hustle and play damn defense. That's your damn role. I need you to be a star in that role, okay? Right, right. Hey, Joe, let me tell you something. I need you to be a superstar role player. Hey, see, I don't think Joe understand who I am. Joe, I put butts in the seat. I could fill a stadium out by myself, Joe. So I definitely ain't playing no guy. I'm going to play defense, right? I'm going to sit in the chair, Joe. I'm going to slide them puppies, Joe. I'm going to slide them. You hear me? I'm going to slide them, right? But also, people coming to see me for what I do on the offensive end, Joe.

41:46Chad Johnson:I'm going to make sure I throw you alive. I'm going to make sure you get a highlight or two. But you're going to be a defender, a pick-and-roll guy. You're going to be the screener. You know? Nah. You're going to be doing all this. You're talking about what you're going to be doing. Joe, if you play with me, you're going to be DeAndre Ayton. Huh? You're going to be DeAndre Ayton. I already know. I can't even play on a team with dude. I already know that. I already know. Hey, Joe, I'm playing.

42:17Shannon Sharpe:My man said, hey, Joe, you're going to be DeAndre Ayton.

42:24Come on, I'm going to be Ayton.

42:26Chad Johnson:What the hell? hey hey joe you got you got a thing you got to take the comparison to me and in football and transition that in the basketball transition like that bro oh it's it's going to for me it's going it's going to for me but but hey joe the people coming to see me man what you talking about your shooting ability ain't like that oh joe we just got to be 100 but you got you got to understand let's let's just say this was my sport if it was my sport therefore everything you just mentioned will be up to par based on who i am okay so if we were playing football who would i be in football then if we're football you'll be like um damn what's a good comparison for joe as a basketball player but in football uh you gonna be mike evans yeah i like mr consistency yeah Mr.

43:21consistency yeah I like that I like that I probably gonna have a hell of a year over there in uh San Fran too man Mike finna go slap a crazy over there boy in that offense hey Ocho the chat

43:34Shannon Sharpe:calling you uh Ocho Parker they said you can't you can't see the chat tripping the traction hey I think the check but y 'all better y 'all better youtube and google me stop playing me oh joe you were back to football that'll be no but i'm just saying i'm just i'm just saying if we talking basketball think about me playing basketball from four years old all the way up yes but you didn't so we're talking about now and you talk about this man that played the sport you were talking about he gonna be deandre and you gonna be the guy that's you you gonna be kobe yeah no no no no no i ain't I ain't gonna be cold because I play too much.

44:17I play too much. Okay, you will be Shay. No, no Shay too serious. I need somebody. I need somebody to have fun playing the game.

44:27Shannon Sharpe:There ain't nobody making a whole lot of money. That's really good. Ain't nobody, everybody serious about this. Oh, I'm, it gotta be one NBA player. That's really, really good, but made it fun. No.

44:42Chad Johnson:I can see you. I can see you being like Jed Vanderbilt. Like I can see you being like a Vanderbilt dude play for the Lakers. I can see you, cause he everywhere Ocho. I mean everywhere, elephant energy. You know what I mean? Got a nice look.

44:59Shannon Sharpe:But they don't throw him no ball. They don't give the rock to Ocho. Yeah that ain't me. We just trying to keep it 100. Oh shit, hey, we need him doing. Ocho say he want the ball. Nah, hey Ocho, I can play off the ball though. I don't need the ball. I can play out the ball and I'm efficient as hell. I'm a fish. I'm a fish. You're going to be getting a lot of layup. Hold up. What about Ant-Man? Ant-Man have fun. Hey, see? Bingo. That's the perfect example.

45:25Chad Johnson:You don't want too damn fun now. Hey, that's the perfect example. If the man had already been, you're going to keep Ant-Man in there. No, no, no, no. Joe, Joe, think about it. Personality-wise, when the camera in front of him, Ant-Man is me. Yeah, personally - Personality-wise, but y 'all games ain't going to eat now. It's the same. On and off the court. We the same. Hey, having kids and shit, same shit. Ant-Man, that's me. Yeah.

45:56Shannon Sharpe:The Dream, a race of 15-point halftime deficit to win the season over over the Minnesota Lynx. Angel Reese in a Dream's debut, 11 points, 14 rebounds, three blocks, including the game ceiling block. Reese posted her 50th career double-double in just 65 games. That's the fewest game of any players to reach 50 double-doubles in WNBA history. Hey, Uncle Joe, I ain't gonna even lie to you.

46:22Chad Johnson:I stopped watching the game. Boy, they were getting drugged. I said, damn. They were getting beat so bad, I stopped watching. Hold on. Hold on, Joe. They came back and won for real.

46:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they won.

46:37Chad Johnson:They were down big, Uncle, when I was watching. I see your aces, boy. They took one on the chin.

46:48Shannon Sharpe:Boy, boy, beat them. Joe, you know the ring hangover, man. Too many emotions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They let one slide tonight. They got off to a slow start last year, too. They did. And then they won like 16 of the last 17, last 18 games.

47:10Chad Johnson:Yeah.

47:11Shannon Sharpe:but Angel Reese 11th you know hey Alicia Gray had 24 Ryan Howard had 15 Hillman had 15 but Minnesota ain't got feedback I mean Caleb McBride had had a 20 Olivia Miles had 21

47:34Chad Johnson:hey well Angel Reese

47:36Shannon Sharpe:I mean they'll be alright once they get feedback they get feedback

47:39Chad Johnson:what Angel Reese is doing, okay, Ocho, she just out working these girls, man. She got a motor, bro. She got a motor. Hey, look, I know y 'all probably ain't get to see them walking in. I thought they was on the runway, hell, the way they.

47:54Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, they're gonna be stepping down. Hey, I saw Angel with the sequin. I saw Angel with the shorts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, damn. Y 'all going to a WNB game or y 'all going to the club? they were clean

48:12Chad Johnson:you hear me

48:15Shannon Sharpe:but that's what it's that's what it's turned into NFL Ocho it turned into gadgets show with jeans and sweats now everybody hey everybody coming to their Louis and their Dior or their whatever the case may be their tailor they got you know they got everybody got everybody got a stylist now Ocho they're putting stuff together they got stuff on the rack like hey you wear this the X Y and Z so you got the NBA, you got the NFL, you got the WNBA, so everybody strut.

48:43Chad Johnson:It's a whole spectacle and I ain't gonna lie, I'm here for it. I like to see the guys put it on in football, basketball. I damn sure like to see the girls put it on. They not playing. It's straight runway action when they come to the game. I'm like, damn. The girl

49:00Shannon Sharpe:be stepping. The girl be stepping. Hey, do your thing. Like I said, I saw, hey, I'm like, well, damn. and where you going? And then I saw Angel Reese and it was a couple other head. I was like, okay, y 'all, y 'all, y 'all do what y 'all play. Oh, yeah.

49:18Chad Johnson:They ain't playing.

49:21Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. They should have been doing that Ocho when we playing Ocho, but you know. Shoot, hey, I had on. The cameras weren't like that Ocho. It wasn't like that. When game day, I had on Diggies, Ocho. hey Joe give me a nice set of dickies man and call it a day yeah man put that little crease in that thing nice and clean little pair of black air force ones white air force ones kept it simple yeah I try to be you know I do a little something you know but it wasn't too much you should be suited and booted nah you know I had a I wear slag so I wear jeans and you know you know it was nice for the time, you know, at one point in time, you know, the big clothes were in.

50:08Shannon Sharpe:So you had the 42, the 42 Shawn John, the Neachie.

50:14Chad Johnson:Hey, hey. Oh yeah. I'm starting to put the damn dress code in, boy, I got a warehouse full of suits. I'm talking about suits and slacks and dress pants. Man, what? Yeah. I sure would have like had a little runway now though.

50:31Shannon Sharpe:up well i wish i was playing yeah they do all that yeah hey hey joe hey them boy them boys think they be dressing and putting that putting that on joe man a boy don't want to see me man you know everybody they they buying all the expensive stuff i mean that ain't fashion you know it ain't it ain't fair it's not it's not how much some cost is about putting pieces together can you put pieces together you feel me they just they everybody be looking like the goddamn mannequin joe

51:07Shannon Sharpe:yeah you see they making that big paper now so yeah i mean listen the the the money don't make you a a fashionista a fashionisto you understand me you know all you need is one piece you need one statement piece you ain't got that you know man ocho them guys go think about it ocho think Think about how them guys going over to Paris Fashion Week. And those guys going to New York Fashion Week. Yeah, yeah. And them guys at the Louis Vuitton show, or the Tom Brown, or Fear Mugler, or the Dior. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gucci, that's what it is. Yeah, I, I. And you know you go to those shows, don't you?

51:43Shannon Sharpe:They fit you. You know, you, hey, see me, I couldn't even get, I couldn't even get nothing, because I ain't got that kind of, I need the XXX. And they just got runway pieces for you, boy. So, but nah, hey, to each their own. We need to go We be working though Joe We be going We need to go to Call Pharrell Williams And get out to that Louis Vuitton Hey Man I can get us there What you talking about I can get us there Me you and Joe And listen I'm not even in the fashion Joe I'm not even in the fashion I'm just saying If push come to shove And I got to put that shit on I'm him Joe You feel me But I choose not to do it Because I don't really need The clothes and the attire because my face is me.

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