Nightcap Hour 2: Devin White EXPLAINS LEAVING Tampa + Caleb Williams doesn’t meet LEGEND Aikman + Unc BLASTS Pat Bev for BLAMING Russ Struggles on Lakers

23:38I ride horses. I ride PBR bulls. I ride for real.

23:44Shannon Sharpe:He'll do a little something, Dale. Dale, but you got to tell the backdrop of the story of the horses and how you got into horses because you were dealing with something. You went through something in your life and horses helped you deal with that? Yeah, for sure. Just being in a small town where I come from, you know, growing up, man, it ain't really much to do around now. A lot of people, that's what a lot of people do, you know. But growing up, I ended up losing my brother at a young age. I want to say I was like eight or nine years old. And that's just what I used to cope with it. You know, you could be at the barn.

24:17You know, you take a lot off your mind going to ride and stuff, man. So I think that horses has always been a good coping factor for me. And then now, you know, just as I got older, you know, I enjoy it. You know, my son enjoy it. And, man, we kind of make a hobby out there. You know, we go to events around the world. You know, Tennessee, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi. I guess on the south end of the world. And we go there. And we have fun, man. We do it for pleasure. But at the end of the day, man, we out there enjoying ourselves. So, of course, it's been a big part of my life. And probably going to continue to do it.

24:48And more guys in the league starting to get to them. I got Ed Oliver doing it. Yeah. Xavier Leggett. he owned it. Zemir White that played with the Raiders, he owned it. Xavier Howard, he just retired to be with his kids, but also he done got into these horses too. He down there in Miami, but he from Houston. He got all his horses in Miami and I sold him some horses. That just lets you know it's getting real around here. Hey, what's the number on them horses? What are we talking about? It depends, man. We get you some 30 mile miles. It depends. About 20 grand. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. But go ahead and tell them the other part about how much them more foes eat.

25:28Yeah. Nah, they eat a lot though. And in Miami, you know, y 'all ain't got the best resources for hay and feed. Right. Y 'all got to get it shipped in. You know, like we do in the South, we grow it. You know what I'm saying? So it'll be a little more expensive, but it's worth it though. You know, when you, when you got something that bring you peace, money don't matter. Yeah. You're right. My daughter, man, I don't, I don't know where it came from. Obviously you, you, you in the city. the fact that she loves horses so much. Hey, but we got to show you about these stand-up breads, though, bro. It's way smoother.

25:59You know, you can ride at a higher speed. You know, you can bring it down and slow. I'm going to see you in some videos. You're going to be very pleased with the work. You know, a lot of people don't know about stand-up breads because they do a lot. You can do jumping with them, but you also can teach them what we do at single foot. You know, speed rack and single foot. I'm going to teach you about that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to put you on. You know, I'm like a new client. See what I'm saying? You got a, so how many horses do you own now? About 60-something. 60? But I'm in the business, though.

26:30I'm in the business. I'm running the business. Okay, okay.

26:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh, so you breed, sell, and all that other stuff. Oh, yeah. I'm just collecting them. I'm doing it for real. I got a whole Gilead Stables LLC. We doing it for real. So do you have any pulling horses, shires, anything like that? Nah, we just got straight on, like I said, the buggy horses with the Omnis World. I got the pleasure horses that I do. And then, obviously, we got the race horses on the track that's pulling the buggy. But they racing. They racing on the track. Oh, you got them all like Yoki. Like Yoki. Yoki. He got the same horse. Stand the bread. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Hey, you know what?

27:04That gave me a good idea. Since you got horses, Christmas coming up. My daughter loves horses. So you know what I'm going to do. We're going to put it in the game. We're going to talk on the back line. We call it the back line. Talk to him. We're going to put out a business on Front Street. Yeah, holler at your boy. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

27:21Shannon Sharpe:Are you going to get the Fairbreds, maybe get to the Derby or something? Man, when Max won one, I told Max, let me get this next contract. We can do something. We can do something. Boy, they ate. I mean, to get some good bloodline, they're going to, you know, hey, you got to come out a million or two. Oh, yeah. Hey, man, he making$35 a year. That's what I got. He got it. I'm going to just make it. I'm going to oversee everything. You know, I'm going to be his business partner. Make sure he don't get screwed no well. We'll be at the Derby in about two or three years. Check us out. Have you ever been to the Derby?

27:53Nah, I ain't never been. I just told him, man, if I go, I want to host it. One year they let Von Miller host it, and he do chickens. He don't do horses, so I felt disrespected because I'm a real horse guy. That should have been your call. Yeah, that should have been me. So whenever they let me host it, I'll be there because I can talk about them. You know, I can give you a live update on what they're doing. I actually did it when I first came out at the New Orleans track, And I think I did a good job, man. I put the suit on and everything. So I'm ready to take that next step. So if y 'all see this, invite me to the Derby, you know, and I got y 'all.

28:23It's going to be a great experience because I actually know horses and I'm an athlete myself.

28:29Shannon Sharpe:So let's talk about your college, LSU. You think you guys got a chance to make the college football playoff? Can y 'all win the SEC? Yeah, I think we do, man. We got a real good defense, man. We get our quarterback healthy. You know, obviously he was one of the best quarterbacks going into this thing, but kind of balanced some injuries. But I think he's going to shake back and, you know, he's going to get us back on track. But as long as our defense keeps getting turnovers and holding people out, then we're going to be pretty good, man. Well, Devin, man, congratulations on your journey, man. Look, if things don't always look, God don't make no mistakes.

29:02Shannon Sharpe:At all. He put you – you went through what you went through. You're stronger for it. I'm happy for you. Continue success. Stay healthy. Yeah, for sure. You know, when you stay healthy and keep doing what you're doing, you know what's on the other side. Man, I'm trying to get one of them gold things, man. That's all that's important to me, man. Hey, that's all that's important to me. That's what we play this game for, man. All the other stuff going to come. We already been blessed tremendously. You know what I'm saying? Just going to keep having fun and making sure we're doing things the right way, man.

29:30So I appreciate y 'all for having me, man.

29:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. LeBae, you don't have any other – you don't have anything else? Chicken, pigs, just horses? No, man. No, I just do horses. Man, I got dogs, but, man, they just. What kind of dogs you got? I got Blue Hillers. I got Blue Hillers. Oh, okay. It's an Australian cattle dog. I know what a hill he is. And I just got them for company, bro. I don't even work them. I just got them just to have company on the farm. Because I got, like, 80 acres back in Louisiana. And this offseason, I plan on buying, like, 100, another 100 that's not too far. And, man, that's what I do, man. I like being where it's peaceful at.

30:04And I still got my land in Florida, too. I go out there and train. And I got a born out there in Odessa. on the backside of Tampa. And I go out there, train, take horses, and enjoy myself out there in the summertime as well. So even though, you know, they got rid of me in Tampa, I still got my – You still got roots there.

30:20Shannon Sharpe:You still got roots there. I still got my roots there. All right, man. Congratulations on all your success. Stay healthy, man, and come back and talk to us again, Dev. I appreciate you, man. All right. Appreciate you. Love. Devin White, linebacker for the Las Vegas Raiders. I misspoke earlier.

30:40Shannon Sharpe:what's the dude's name? Nick Bosa was defensive rookie of the year the year they came out. But he was off to an unbelievable start, Ocho. He's starting to look back as I'm watching the Raiders. He's starting to look again like the Devin White that you remember when he first got to Tampa. Sudden, impactful. Dropping in the coverage and blessing the live Linebacker. He's getting back to that Devin White, and I'm glad to see him find a home. I think Grantham is the D.C. and Pete Carroll, both defensive guys, understand how to use linebackers and coverage in disguise things. So, Devin, congratulations.

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35:25Shannon Sharpe:Joe, Caleb Williams says he and Troy Aikman didn't have their usual production meeting before Monday night game. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Did you meet with Troy last week leading up to the game? I did not. I did not. I didn't get to meet with him. tried to meet with him and then you know you know reached out and tried to meet and you know that didn't that didn't that didn't happen and so you know moved on from it when played the game and came out three and two. Why did you not meet with him? I was here late and time instead meet up lifting or whatever the case may have been and then tried to call him after the game and or not the game after after the day that day that you know I was supposed to meet with him and it didn't get through.

36:14Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Chodi, I don't know if it picked up on this, especially, I don't listen to the sound, so maybe you heard that Troy was very tough on Caleb Williams. Yeah. Is this something or is this nothing? No, I think it's nothing. I think it's nothing. It's just the fact that he wasn't available and didn't make it to the time when they were scheduled to meet because of prior obligations. I'm assuming that Caleb Williams might have had with the team. I'm sure like he did just say he was lifting. So whatever he was doing, he had prior prior prior obligations. But I'm assuming they had a time they were supposed to meet and it just didn't happen.

36:51And due to that, I'm sure Troy was a little bit more a little bit more heavy on him game time because of his absence.

37:03Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, look, I don't think it's going to be no issue before. but it's very rare that the quarterback does not do a production meeting. It's rare, almost unheard of, because that is the one guy, because guess what? Look, they might talk to Miles Garrett, and they're going to talk to this, and they're going to talk to that, but you got to talk to the quarterback. Everybody always talks to the quarterback. No matter how good, bad, or indifferent he is, they grab the quarterback. And the quarterback normally makes themselves available. Now, is it something moving forward? Um, no. But was it something, is it a situation that made like, you know what, you want to be, and this is what you have to guard against Ochoa.

37:45Shannon Sharpe:This is why I said I don't want to call games. Because if you're not, if you're not careful, guess what? They won't send the players to do production meetings with you. Right. You see? Do what I do. I'm not really, you know, hey, I don't really need you to do my job. Right. It's kind of hard if you hard on guys and guys don't show up. You just imagine, okay, you go to Kansas City and you can't get Patrick Mahomes. You can't get a Chris Jones. You can't get Travis Kelsey. Right. Okay, you go to the Cowboys and you can't get CD and you can't get Dak. Okay? Now what? Yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

38:24Shannon Sharpe:It makes you – now, do I think it's going to be something? Do I think – look, they kind of send a message. Okay, bro, you're a little harsh now. But look, I like Caleb. I think Ben Johnson is going to do great for him. He's got even from the first game to now, you can see him getting better and better. Absolutely. If you're watching and you understand, you know the game, if you can't see that Caleb Williams is getting better and better, I don't know what to tell you. Listen, I told you. I told you. I told you. And the fact that they played in a monsoon in conditions that you don't really want to play in and you still look the way you look, still happen to come back and win the game?

39:08Shannon Sharpe:Yep.

39:11Shannon Sharpe:Keep stacking them. Keep stacking them. Keep stacking them. Like I said, I don't listen to the sound, so I don't know what Troy said. I don't know. Because I don't need to listen to the sound because I don't want what someone else said to creep into my thoughts and then I regurgitate what somebody said. And all you do is listen. No. You hear me say something? That's my thoughts. Now, I'm not saying that only – that everything that I say is unique and nobody else might not have said or referenced what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying I don't really – I don't want someone else's thoughts to creep into my head, Ocho.

39:51Shannon Sharpe:I want to have my own individual thoughts. And I think the best way for me to do that is not listen to the sound. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right. but look I think Caleb Williams is playing very well I think Troy look Troy is very candid now he one of those guys he played a position he played at a high level yeah he won Super Bowls he's a Super Bowl MVP he's got a gold jacket so he I mean Troy is one of those guys I mean you know he'll glaze a little bit but for the most part he gonna give you his honest take he gonna tell it like it is yes

40:25Shannon Sharpe:he gonna tell it like it is Oh, Joe, Pat Bev goes off and blames the Lakers for Russell Westbrook being jobless. Now, he does have a job now. He had just signed, I think, today with the Sacramento Kings. Here's Pat Bev talking about how crazy it is Russ not having a job. It's f***ed up what happened to Russ, bro. On God. It's f***ed up what happened to Russ. And Russ got a bad take because of that Lakers team. That's the truth, bro. That's the truth. You talk to T. Lou. T. Lou did an interview with my f***er. I love Russ. Ever since Russ left the Lakers, bro, he's been on a minimum, bro. We've never seen this ever.

41:02Shannon Sharpe:We've never seen a player who's been the MVP, who's impacted the game, who they call them names and tell them he can't shoot, go to the playoffs, shoot 40 % with the Clippers the very next year, right? Take a less dominion role with the Lakers. Take a less dominion role with the Clippers. He's been a sixth man ever since he's left the Lakers. He's a starting point guard in the NBA. He's arguably one of the top three point guards to ever play the game. You tell me this man can't get on the team All because he's because he's passionate all because he he he stretches with the team every single practice All because if it's a team out and he's there all the time all because if you talk to anyone around the league Russell the best teammate I ever have I talked to Paul George But I P you go a Pat you go love Russ Alston Reese Russell Russell Was one best the teammate but one of the best teammates I ever had what are we talking about?

41:52Why isn't this man on the team?

41:57Hey, well, that's tough there, huh? Especially when it comes to basketball stuff, especially situations like that. Regardless of your accolades, regardless of your resume, regardless of what you have done, you have to, how Pat Bev feels about Russ and how his other teammates feel about him, you need the owners. You need the ones who write the checks to feel that way. The guys running the team. That's who you need to feel that way. And most of the time, they never do, huh? They never do. when they feel they can get some type of production from someone else, give someone else a chance. I mean, that's the nature of the business.

42:33It happens in football. It happens in baseball. It happens in basketball. It happens in all sports to some of the better players, regardless of resume, regardless of what they accomplished in the past. There comes a time where they will pass you up, regardless of what you've done, because that's why it's called business.

42:54Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to figure out, he says it's the Lakers. Okay, Cleveland, Baker Mayfield. He's with Cleveland. Yeah. And I'm sure Cleveland said some bad things about Baker Mayfield. What's Baker Mayfield doing now? Hey, cutting up. Okay, the Lakers. He said, oh, he said, this man has been a sixth man. And T. Lou, my guy. T. Lou say, I love Russ. Why didn't they sign him back? he declined the option with the nuggets so are we not gonna he mentioned rush shot 40 percent from the three so are we gonna take an outlier season or are we gonna talk to take about what he's done his career in the playoffs from the three-point line so i'm just figuring out how the lakers keep taking the blame okay he went to utah utah bought him out he goes to the clippers clippers could have re-signed him after that year.

43:48Shannon Sharpe:They didn't. He goes to the Nuggets. They have an option. He has an option. For three and a half, four million dollars, whatever the case was. Right. He declined the option. They move on. How is that the Lakers' fault? I was, when the Lakers, when I heard, when I first started hearing rumors, I said, this is a bad deal. I said, LeBron and Russ won't work together. Right. They both need the ball. And it just won't work. Neither one of the guys are catching shoot. LeBron needs shooters. Russ needs shooters. So it's not going to work. But I'm just trying to figure out how it's everybody's fault. Russ is not – he's turnover prone.

44:31Shannon Sharpe:He's not a great shooter. He's not a great defender. Yeah, he's an energy guy. He's going to play hard all the time. Right. But at this stage of his career, he's not what he once was.

44:49Shannon Sharpe:damn i mean it happens but how is that i'm just trying to figure out how is it the lakers fault do you not think you think people like oh the lakers said russ can't play oh so we better not get him i'm sure they said so what about baker he went for cleveland He went to Carolina. He went to the Rams. That's three teams. Tampa say, okay, come on over here. We got you.

45:22Shannon Sharpe:At this point in time, unless you still – there are only a handful of guys that have played as long as Russ. I mean, okay, you're looking at KD. Are we saying Russ and KD are the same? We're looking at Steph. Are we saying Steph and Russ the same? LeBron, are we saying LeBron and Russ are the same? We're talking about guys that played, I think this is 17. I think this is 17 for Steph. Right. I think this is 19 for KD. Obviously, it's 23. Come on, man. Come on, y 'all. Yeah. Russ is great in the community. I love what he does with his foundation. I love how hard he plays. But come on, man, stop this.

46:07Shannon Sharpe:Man, y 'all know Russ is not the same player that he was. Well, that's basically what I said too. In regards to what you've done, in regards to how good you were, at some point, everything declines. And when it does decline, they don't care about what you did in the past. What can you offer me right now? What can you do for me right now? And you said he's not a great shooter. He's not a great shooter. He needs to handle the ball. So therefore, when you have issues like that, having a role on certain teams, it decreases because there's no value based on what you bring to that team. As great as he was.

46:45Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you a question, Ocho. When you watch the NBA, what they do? Shoot threes. Hey, just like the NFL. NFL now is a passing league. The NBA, everybody behind the arc. Everybody, even the big men. If he wanted to get picked up, he could have picked up his option. Right. But maybe he didn't want to. He could have picked up the option and stayed with the Nuggets. That's not what he wanted. Yeah. Maybe he felt he got more in the open market, huh?

47:19Shannon Sharpe:Okay. That's what happened. So how is that the Lakers' fault, what he got on the open market? How long has it been since he was last with the Lakers? Three years? and the Lakers are still being held accountable for Russ. It didn't work for whatever reason. It didn't work. That is not the first trade that a team has made that didn't work. I can assure you, it will not be the last trade that teams make that don't work. Right, right. But we can't keep holding the teams responsible because, like I said, I love T. Lou. But T. Lou say, I love Russ. they didn't re-sign him. Why?

48:07Shannon Sharpe:When he opted out, the Nuggets could have came back and said, okay, that 3.4 is not enough. We got five. They didn't re-sign him. Why? So I guess they taking the Lakers. So if that's the case, why did the Clippers sign him? If that's the case, why did the Nuggets sign him? Right. That's a bull drive, man. I love Rush, too, boy. He plays hard. You know, Rush reminds me. But it's a different type of game now, Ocho. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You know, Rush reminds me. Russell Westbrook ain't no, it's just the basketball version of Steve Smith.

48:51Basketball version of Steve Smith, senior. I don't know. I always try that comparison.

48:55Shannon Sharpe:When did Rush last play for the Lakers? with the 23 because he left the Lakers and went

49:13Shannon Sharpe:but they traded him to didn't they trade him didn't they trade him Lakers traded him right to Utah who bought him out then went to the Clippers

49:29Shannon Sharpe:I guess Utah don't want good players. I guess the Clippers don't want good players. I guess the Nuggets don't want good players.

49:42Shannon Sharpe:Russ is a top 75 player of all time. He's a Hall of Famer. Russ is a first ballot Hall of Famer. Easy. Two things can be true, though. He's not the same player. He's turnover prone He doesn't play great defense He's not a shooter Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa He don't play great defense No, he doesn't

50:16Think about it

50:19Shannon Sharpe:OKC Then he went to the Rockets The Wizards the Lakers Utah Clippers the Nuggets not a Kings hmm

50:38dang it happens

50:40Shannon Sharpe:it doesn't take away from what he's done he's a what 9 10 time all star he's an all NBA player what three four seasons of triple doubles he did that all-star game, MVP. He's done that. Yeah. Twice. But Ocho, I don't base, I base, okay, I signed a player today. What can he do moving forward? I can't do anything about that. Right. You're not signing for the past. I'm not signing for the past. I'm signing for the future. Right. And it's okay. If you play long enough, it'll happen to everybody. Yeah. It's happened to some of the best. It's happened to some of the best. I just don't get how we just go keep.

51:35Shannon Sharpe:No, I don't look. Like I said, for me, I didn't think it was going to work with LeBron and Russ. It was one of the few times that I've been very vocal like, nah, it ain't going to work. but y 'all keep saying you know oh Shannon don't like Russ don't it seemed like the Clippers didn't like him either or Utah bought him out so y 'all keep talking about what Shannon what about the teams that says you know what we're good does that got any that has anything any role did that play does that play any role I can assure you these teams are not listening to what Shannon Sharp saying on his podcast every player every basketball player that i've talked to hold russ in very very high regard yeah he's a consummate pro he plays extremely hard he's very very philanthropic gives back to his community he's very engaged in the community and that's great But these teams like, okay, how much can he help us win or compete for a title?

52:46Shannon Sharpe:That's what it comes down to. It ain't got nothing to do with no Lakers. It ain't got nothing to do about what he does, what he's done in the past. Teams are signing guys now what I believe he can help us do in the future. And I believe if teams thought Russ could really help them, somebody would have signed him to a deal sooner. clearly the Kings like well we need a backup we need a point guard backup point guard and we'll see they got Schroeder they got a couple of guys that was on the Lakers they got Schroeder they got Malik Monk now Russ we'll see how well they can blend up I don't even know who the coach is for the Kings now

53:32Shannon Sharpe:Doug Christie yeah he was in him and ended up taking over He took over for Mike Brown and ended up getting a job. So,

53:43Shannon Sharpe:18, 18. Let me, Ocho, if somebody would have told Russ, hey, Russ, you're going to be able to play coming out. We'll let you play 17 years. You think, Russ, say, nah, I got to play 20. Nah. Somebody tell you, Ocho, we're going to let you play 10 years. We're going to give you 10 years in the NFL. What are you going to say? Nah, I need 12, 13. Huh? You get the first year, then you say, man, boy, if I can get me five. And then once you get to five, you say, boy, if I can just get to 10. Get to 10, yeah. And then once you get to 10, you take a year at a time. Yeah, that's it. You take a year at a time.

54:21Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. Russ got 18 years. He's going to get 18 years in the NBA. That's a beautiful idea. Ain't a whole lot of guys got 18 years in the league. No, no. Hey, some people, you get to say when you want to go, and some, they'll force you out. Yes. You're very fortunate. If you're ever in a position, you'll be able to lead a game when you want to. Well, the thing is, Ocho, is to go before they're ready to get rid of your ass. Right, yeah. That's the key. It's all about being self-aware. That's the key. It's all about being self-aware. Because eventually, it don't matter. eventually they're going to want you to go.

55:03Yeah.

55:04Shannon Sharpe:The question is, do they hold the door open for you or you walk out on your own?

55:17Damn. And I'm going to have to... Go ahead. I was going to say I have to disagree too. I mean, Watson Russ, he can play defense. I had to come back to that one.

55:28Shannon Sharpe:Okay. According to Shams, LeBron is planning to take a patient approach with his injury and expected to return around mid-November. The Lakers open the season October the 21st. L.A. has 15 games between October 21st and November 18th before going on a four-day break and then visiting the Utah Jazz November the 23rd. What do you think, Ocho? LeBron is in year what, 21? Three. God damn Be 41 December 30th Yeah LeBron is in year 23 47 years old Wait 30 38 How old is he He'll be 41 God damn Listen take all the time you need Take all the time you need Luka Is going to carry the torch for right now He and they are should be more than enough Offensively Yeah, you'll be fine You'll be fine, we don't need We know what you can do You heal up, come back and make sure you're 100 % We're going to be alright We're going to hold the fort down until you're ready Oh Joey, as you get older You just don't recover like you once could Or not as fast An injury that would keep you down a week Keep your ass down two weeks to a month An injury that would keep your ass down a month Would keep you down two, three months Hey, what's hurt?

56:57Shannon Sharpe:What's hurt on him, you know? I think he did something in his glute. His glute? Oh, man, I got... Hey, LeBron. It's something. Sciatica? Yeah. What is it? Man, get an epidural. It's his glute? Yeah, you say it's his sciatica, but it's pulsating in his glute. Oh, man, I know how... Dog. Hey, LeBron, hit your boy, man. Man, I got something for that, man. Yeah, epidural. Huh? An epidural. Now, he don't need no epidural. Get you some witch hazel, huh? You hear me? Man, what you trying to do, take off makeup? No, no, no. I ain't trying to take off no makeup. Get you some witch hazel. That's the only thing witch hazel going to do.

57:41Man, listen. Listen, I got the cure for that. Get you some witch hazel and some mayonnaise. I'm telling you, I had something like that, too. Get you some witch hazel and some mayonnaise. Shh, man, please. boy how you bet how you back in no time lebron tell you it's got to be pretty severe because uh

58:01Shannon Sharpe:they started when they start when they start camp like um like two weeks ago so he's gonna miss two months basically two months god damn that means it's serious because lebron's not one to miss no time nope and he's not injury prone you definitely try to miss no time now ocho because you got left less of it. Right, right. That's the thing. See, when you're young, oh, I'll do that tomorrow. If you notice that people start to get older, Ocho, they do less and less procrastinating because you realize you got less and less time. Yeah, you're right. See, when you're young, you're like, man, I could do that tomorrow.

58:41Shannon Sharpe:I got this, I got that. You start to get older, you start to come to the realization, I ain't promised tomorrow. Nah, ain't no A. You show A. I don't see nowhere where he say A. I got you. Don't worry about it. You can do that tomorrow. Nah, let me go and do that today.

58:59Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Two months? Mm-hmm. Well, that sciatica ain't nothing to play with. I had it. Yeah. I ain't nothing. Boy? Hey, you got to excuse me. You got to excuse me and my ignorance. The fact that my black ass ain't never been hurt. You got to tell me what the hell is a sciatica. it's a nerve that runs down I mean it'll cause pain it'll cause your leg to go numb right you ever been asleep Ocho you try to get out of the bed and your foot numb your leg numb your foot you can't even walk like you got a club foot it'll cause that man it'll cause boy have you sitting like this here in the chair man what's wrong with you nothing man Boy, that thing, Ocho, have you walking sideways.

59:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, that's messed up. Anybody that's ever had a sciatica, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah. I'm talking about that thing to have your boy and it make you cry. Man, I went to go watch my son today. You know, he played JV for Miami, New Orleans. And you know how I am. I've just been through life. It must have been God's will. Went, played in NFL. I've never been hurt. I go watch him to play today. One of the few Wednesdays I've been off and didn't have to travel anywhere. He get hurt. He done broke his clavicle.

1:00:30We get we get we go to the hospital. So he get hurt. He come to the sideline. I'm on the game. I'm watching the game on the sideline. I say, man, nothing wrong with you. Ain't nothing but a little great grade one AC sprain. Man, go ahead and get back in the game. man I can't move my arm I can't move my shoulder so you know kids freshmen in high school you think they playing around you think you really haven't felt pain like that before so I'm like come on man come on now stop being soft man we go we go we leave the game we go get an x-ray man and broke his clavicle I'm like come on hey hold on after that I gotta go to school tomorrow still

1:01:11Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nothing wrong with your legs Ain't nothing wrong with your body Hell yeah you gotta go to school Just hoping Is it left or right It all appears if he left or right hand It might be tough for him to write Nope it's his left shoulder So he right hand he be good you straight And listen mama say you going straight to school I know he might be up Savy get up Go to sleep Yes you going to school All right, guys, we're going to get you out on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

1:01:53Shannon Sharpe:Samuel LeGrand said Pat Bell might as well blame Skip. While he at it, he coined the name Russell Westbrook. He did indeed. uh saucy say with braun not returning until november or december do you think he could possibly request a trade or finish his career at a purple and gold lebron is one of the two players one of the few players that have a no trade contract well he can go nowhere unless he wants to go he can pull that off not everybody has that type of what's that no i think there's only two people that have no trade that kind of power oh it's him and bradley bia wave his wait how did how did he get in a position to be able to never mind let me let me stay out of basketball business

1:02:39Shannon Sharpe:people talk about we the lakers never no you no you didn't want him the lakers did y 'all remember what the lakers was like when kobe was injured in kobe's last couple of years y 'all know what it was like i love how the lakers pretend like oh they were winning what you No, you wasn't. You couldn't get anybody. You couldn't. You couldn't. Y 'all need to stop this, Laker fans. Y 'all know what it was like. When Kobe was hurt and y 'all was pretending, you couldn't get a free agent. Remember, LaMarcus Aldridge turned you down. You remember Dwight Howard didn't re-sign with you. So I'm just trying to figure out who you was getting.

1:03:21Shannon Sharpe:you couldn't even get top three agents to come even when you had Kobe so again I ask in the most humble way I know how who are you getting hey hey oh LeBron only won one championship how many championships did you win from 2010 from when Kobe won that last championship until LeBron won that. How many years was in between that?

1:03:57Shannon Sharpe:Kobe won the last title in 2010. Kobe retired in 2016, right? So how many playoff wins did you guys have from 2010 to 2016?

1:04:11Shannon Sharpe:How many times did you even go to the playoffs?

1:04:18Shannon Sharpe:Interesting. Very interesting.

1:04:23No, look, I don't know.

1:04:26Shannon Sharpe:Do I think LeBron's going to request a trade? I don't.

1:04:32Shannon Sharpe:But if he's injured this year, this will be his last year. Damn. I mean, everybody wants to go. Ocho, everybody wants to go out their way. I want to go out, Ocho. It'd be great if I could go out and win a championship like John Elwell, like the bus. The bus stopped in Detroit. He's from Detroit. Or win like Strahan and walk off into the sunset. Everybody don't get that. Everybody don't get that. You're right. You're right. And if somebody would have told LeBron, hey, at 18, bro, 23? 23? No player has ever played 23. Let alone played it. First of all, no player. I mean, Vince played 22. But Vince was averaging, what, five points a game?

1:05:19Shannon Sharpe:LeBron averaged 24 and a half. Seven and a half, eight. That's crazy. That's how I know he's not retiring, despite him being hurt right now, huh? Yeah. So to play it, to be a full-time starter. The man was a full-time starter. Right. That is crazy. BPP. BPP. You guys are great. You guys are great players. Are great players great regardless where they are or does landing matter? It definitely helps. I mean, you need teammates. You need coaching.

1:05:54Shannon Sharpe:But had Michael Jordan not got Phil Jackson, would Michael Jordan still not be great? We might not look at him saying he might not have the amount of championships. He might not have any. We don't know. But before he got Phil, was he not flying through the air? Was he not Air Jordan before Phil got there?

1:06:17Shannon Sharpe:We don't know how soon you get there. With Tom, had he had a different coach than Coach Belichick, we don't know. We just know he had Coach Belichick, he left Coach Belichick, and he won another one. That's what we know. What happens if he didn't get drafted by New England? We don't know. They kept Tom. They kept four quarterbacks because they saw something. He's not ready to play right now, but I think we should just hold on to it and let him get reps, work on things, and he was able to get better. And better put him in the Pantheon. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, Unk, for tomorrow night's game, I'm rolling with the Steelers.

1:06:59Shannon Sharpe:Sorry, Ocho. I love you, though. Me too. Y 'all rolling with who? Steelers I mean that's fine In life everybody has a choice It might not be the right one But it's the one that they want And that's Something you guys decide to do May God be with you Drew said When you gonna own up and say I was wrong about Baker You called that man a bust That was then So people not allowed to change I was poor I got out of that situation so let me ask you a question if he stays in Cleveland is he still this MVP discussion Drew I'm just going to ask if he stays in Cleveland or if he stays in Carolina is he still this player no he look the guy went first overall he got to have some talent damn yeah he went first overall the Cleveland situation he was tired of Cleveland they were tired of him they didn't like his leadership style he didn't like the way they wanted him to lead he needed to go somewhere where he could be Baker Mayfield but he also needed to be surrounded by outstanding offensive talent yes he was devoid of that in Cleveland so there are a lot of extenuating circumstances that led us to be this Baker Mayfield.

1:08:35Shannon Sharpe:No, he's not a bust. He went to a Pro Bowl. So that in and of itself, like he wasn't a bust, but he was not living up to the number one overall draft pick in Cleveland. Now you understand why Cleveland took him. They just weren't able to surround him with talent like a Chris Godwin, like a Mecca Abuka, like a Mike Evans, like a Cade Arden. He didn't have that. Yeah. Y 'all make it seem like, oh, he's the same player. He had the same talent in Cleveland. Really? You think Cleveland would have gotten rid of Baker Mayfield if he had this exact same talent in Cleveland and playing the way he is in Tampa?

1:09:22He has some nice pieces over there. but nothing like now. I mean, Odell wasn't...

1:09:29Shannon Sharpe:Odell had came off those injuries, Ocho. Remember he tore his knee? You remember he... To get him, he had broke his leg in New York. He wasn't the same. You need years to recover from that, Ocho. Now, he had started to round back and started to look like Odell when he got to the Rams. That back half, when he got to the Rams, those last two or three games, in the playoffs, up until that Super Bowl, he started to look like Odell. You single him, he was eating. Because remember, that was the same year that Cooper Cupp had that triple crown. So people were giving all their attention to Coop. Now Odell got to eat.

1:10:13Shannon Sharpe:Baker's playing phenomenal. And I'm happy for him. Unfortunately, Cleveland doesn't get to reap the benefits.

1:10:23Shannon Sharpe:Yo, Dutch, What's up, Up? Joe, I would like y 'all to give my nine-year-old son, little Antoine, a happy birthday shout-out. Downtown Buffalo, Pats Nation. Antoine, happy ninth birthday. Happy ninth birthday, Antoine. What do you get a nine-year-old, little Joe? What's a gift for a nine-year-old? A nine-year-old? PlayStation? Xbox? A PlayStation, Xbox. Matter of fact, building a gaming rig. a gaming rig build them a gaming rig what's a gaming rig? a PC PC two monitors TV up top oh oh so you can like you can game and stuff yeah yeah okay well hold on help out your damn yeah start you start them early start them early it ain't gonna cost really it ain't really gonna cost nothing what's nothing?

1:11:15$500? about$5 ,900

1:11:20Shannon Sharpe:yeah I sure wish I had me a gaming station you get one of them on high chairs i like this like this oh the chair like that yes it's a gaming chair with all of them with monitors like like two or three monitors yeah right in front of yeah oh so i can have my number on the back of that too huh yeah you get your nice little chair put the 84 on the back of there get your get your orange chair you know the little denver bronco hotel the theme you said you said get that whole setup for about 5900 huh oh yeah absolutely i wish i could turn my camera around and so i could so i could show you that'd be so interesting if i can get about 5900 but i sure get me a little game room but the funny thing you don't need it because you don't game i can't because i ain't got nobody to buy no gaming station i mean but you want you won't game before so you want yeah jordan said he's gonna he built it for me jordan like you know jordan good with computers jordan hooked that thing up oh so yeah jordan already know jordan already know so um yeah but the fact so in other words i could be on there so my gaming station i could be on there uh uh uh uh playing against kai or show i show speedhaw get speed huh yeah but you told me ninja booga yeah you but you've never played video games before so i mean you wouldn't start okay because i ain't got no i ain't got no setup well how you would have had a setup before if he was a real gamer if I'd have 5900 I could I mean you want don't nobody start gaming in their 50s though see I've been doing I've been doing this since I was nine I have 5900 when I was nine that's why you ain't gaming now you know I could I mean I want a game now but see you wanted to oh oh we need to do there's people in this space I try to get this face they say I need 5900 to get in this space i got you i got you hey i'm telling you it's it's it's a space that nobody's touched that we can we can take advantage of well if i get 5900 i sure like to be in that space aaron oren said ocho when you dropped that monster game versus the charges in 06 what did it feel like to be in the zone i was so sick y 'all lost that game hold on you had a monster game and y 'all lost yep but uh i have well i forgot 11 for 260 two tds that's when else that's the that's the uh season alt had the 31 touchdowns damn how many he had against y 'all she was probably maybe i don't know maybe two or three and we was winning 21 21 something like zip three 21 three they came back and won so you had that monster game so now chase broke your record last year on thursday night football against the uh the ravens so no not only do you not have the record no more.

1:14:06Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all didn't even win the game? I mean, I ain't got nothing to do with that. You did have something to do with it. You was out there. Yeah, I mean, I did my job. What's going on with you guys, Ocho? I mean, Chase lost that game last year, too. Sometimes it happens like that. All you can do is work with the hand that you're dealt. There's nothing you can do about it.

1:14:37Shannon Sharpe:I'm so sure sorry. Yeah, we're going to be all right, though. Y 'all going to be all right. Yeah, we're going to be all right now. Y 'all better win that game tomorrow. We're going to win tomorrow. Ricky, what's up? And Ocho, congrats on the awards. Keep stacking them. Got a good one for y 'all. Start bench cut. Mike Vick, Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton.

1:15:00Yes, that's for you, Uncle.

1:15:09man i ain't getting rid of vic i'm just telling you that big started this ain't nothing like ain't ain't nothing like uh uh uh what year was that the michael vick experience in atlanta unbelievable you had to be there you had to be a part of it unbelievable

1:15:33Shannon Sharpe:I ain't cutting nobody. I ain't bitching nobody. So guess what? Because I know Bic ain't coming out the field, Lamar ain't coming out the field, and Cam damn sure ain't coming out the field. Man, y 'all know how Cam is. I'm going to burn through all my time out. Come on. You're going to get back here in the next place. I ain't coming out. Uh-uh. Ricky, I'm sorry, man. I got to keep all these guys. You got to give me somebody else, man. I can't cut none of these guys. We got three MVPs and the guy that revolutionized the running quarterback. What you see with Mike, what you see with Lamar and Cam, Mike started that.

1:16:19Shannon Sharpe:Nate B said, hey, you going to the Aces parade on Friday? You can blend the crowd. I know you on probation.

1:16:31Shannon Sharpe:where's it gonna be where the parade at they're on the strip

1:16:37no

1:16:43Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to a game next year I'm going to their first game when they get them rings hey uncle love this show how's brick brother Sterling doing and he's uh uh as he's still playing golf. He's doing well. He's recovering from eye surgery. I think he's going to his third week. So he had it on the 26th. So yeah, this is about his third week. So I think he's got a couple more days of laying down. Yeah, he's still playing golf. Obviously he can't play right now, but

1:17:16Shannon Sharpe:but yes, he's still playing golf. Dark Barnes said, pick is to the Panthers, paired with T-Mac replacing Leggett. Ocho said he don't want him to go to Carolina. I mean, we didn't even mention Carolina, but listen, the best fit, the best place will always be the Raiders. No matter what anybody says, it's just that's where it's at. Uh-oh, Ocho.

1:17:46Shannon Sharpe:Pickens to the 49ers. Oh, shit. That's a good one. gave Vincent Cook flag in the first quarter five straight threes.

1:17:59Shannon Sharpe:Look, the question is, can the Lakers play defense, don't you? Yeah. They got – look, man, Luka going to score 30 a game.

1:18:10Shannon Sharpe:AR going to give you 20. So they're going to have enough to score the points. The question is, can you stop people? Yeah. Tino Davis, pickings to the Broncos, Bills, Texas, or Commanders. What do you got? Oh, the Bills can definitely use it. Yeah. The Bills can definitely use it. I saw what you call them on Sean McDermott had a conversation with Brady, Joe Brady, about the usage of James Cook. Remember I told you, Ocho, I was surprised how little they used James Cook the other night? Right. when they got courtland sutton i don't think they spent that kind of money on sut and then go get picked i could be wrong but hey bill's got nico collins i think tank dale comes back commander just paid a boatload of money to uh mclaurin mclaurin i think the bills is is it should be in the running sir underscore case my guys ocho november 12 2006 versus San Diego.

1:19:16Shannon Sharpe:11 receptions, 206 yards, two touchdowns. Can you explain your mindset that game? If Carson wouldn't have went down in that playoff game, was anybody stopping y 'all in 06? Yep. Who?

1:19:32Who?

1:19:33Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. 06. Well, who was? They just won the Super Bowl in 06. Man, we was finna beat them. What you talking about? Oh, we opened the first play of the game 60 yards down the sideline who caught that ball chris henry rest in peace yes you're right man that changed the whole changed the whole game i'm the first play yeah man man boy yeah well we were gonna run up and down that field uh isaac colston hey chad can you give me a ticket to the bingos game tomorrow please wait i i'm not even in town yet i ain't even get there Mr. International, go Falcons. Saucy D, what all happens in production meetings?

1:20:23Shannon Sharpe:Well, they talk to them about your mindset, come to the plays you like. They ask, you know, this team is a such and such. Yeah, we got certain things. We got things that we can get to. You know, we understand that they're a pressure team. They like to do a lot of zone dog. They like to play a lot of cover one. We're expecting that. But we see some areas that we can, you know, you talk to the head coach, you talk to the quarterback, You normally talk to two or three offensive players, two or three defensive players. The coaches kind of fill in the blanks after that. That's it, just to get a sense of the team.

1:20:55Shannon Sharpe:If you all were here, when we talked to them yesterday, they felt that this was something they could take advantage of. That's it. TS Car Wash and Detail Service. Rest up, D 'Angelo. Y 'all favorite song or story? Brown Sugar. Brown Sugar classic Oh what's the one he did Oh what's the name

1:21:25God I can't remember the name of the song

1:21:27Shannon Sharpe:No No said we need a thug on Club She She A who A thug A thug Oh they say Young Thug Oh, they say we the Young Thug? You need to sit down with Young Thug, yeah. Oh, okay. Young Thug, if you watching, come on back to Club Shay Shay. That'd be a good one. Hey, Thug gonna hit you with that whoop-de-doo.

1:21:59Shannon Sharpe:Glendale Best said, can I get a birthday shout-out? And rest in peace, my twin sister lost her battle with breast cancer. Glendale, you absolutely can. happy birthday sorry it can't be more pleasant under the circumstances hopefully your sister is comfortable now hopefully God gives you strength comfort and understanding in your time of sorrow and grief so sorry to hear about your sister but no she's in a better place she's resting and there's no more pain no more chemo it doesn't give you doesn't lessen the pain but hopefully over time you get better with dealing with this situation so Glendale happy birthday as happy as it can be under the circumstances that concludes this episode of Nightcap want to thank you guys for joining us I'm your favorite Unc Shannon Sharp and that is my partner and co-host that is Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree pro bowler all pro he's Chad Ochocinco Johnson guys please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and tell family, friends, and loved ones to do likewise.

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1:24:18Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what we won it for though. We want to thank our special guests for joining us, Rico Dowdle and Devin White. Really appreciate you guys joining us tonight. Continued success throughout the rest of the season. That concludes this episode. Ocho, we'll see you tomorrow night. Unfortunately, you'll be disappointed. But, we'll see you guys tomorrow night. Thank you guys for joining us. Ocho, out. When day? When day? When they gonna win another game? Never.

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