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11:39Joe Johnson:he got some play hey yeah Joe and it's You let it marinate throughout the day. Let it marinate throughout the day. Start something, you know?

11:50Shannon Sharpe:Nah, I don't start no, no, Joe.

11:52Joe Johnson:Sometimes you got to do it on purpose.

11:54Shannon Sharpe:I'm talking about even if the day going perfect, I'm talking about y 'all both having a good day out of nowhere.

11:59Joe Johnson:Yeah, just start something, Joe. Nah, nah. Just pull a hair or something. Make one of the tracks come out. You know, she got track.

12:09Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no. We got no track. We got no track over here. okay okay my bad nah hey nah nah Ocho me I just like okay you're right just leave it alone I just I don't really like I mean because I used to debate for a living so if I don't want to debate I don't want to come home and debate you're right I just want hey I said to you right let it go but if I say let it go just let it go yeah well the women that I've dealt with ain't gonna let it go sometimes they can't let it go they try to pull that other side up out of you and then when it come out yeah they looking crazy oh you like that I didn't I say let it go I said baby let it go just let it go let me watch TV now you come stand in front of me in the TV I can't

13:12Shannon Sharpe:okay I go downstairs and I go to the entertainment room they coming right down there too right down with you oh that's your problem you don't know how to communicate I said but now is not a good time I said look let me calm down we'll have this discussion I want to talk right

13:38Joe Johnson:why don't you talk about hey y 'all got it hey joe y 'all and listen when you eat your food right yeah you gotta add seasoning you got to add some type of flavor and listen look argument little debate that ain't nothing but seasoning that's all it is you know a little salt little pepper, you know, a little paprika. Yeah. Ain't too much. You know, sometimes you get chicken, add your little lemon pepper to it. Barbecue sauce to it. That's all it is.

14:08Shannon Sharpe:Do you add a little affection after all that?

14:10Joe Johnson:Yeah, that's it. Oh, so you

14:13Shannon Sharpe:a sex after argument type of guy? Me? Yeah. I mean, for the right price. Yeah.

14:21Joe Johnson:Price? What's it? Are you on charge? get out of here what you ain't living right Joe y 'all ain't living right man you're on charge damn your lady yes in this economy ain't nothing free what Joe she got to pay Joe I kid you not

14:50Shannon Sharpe:but don't be no fool so you make her mad and she got to pay you to get happy yeah

14:56Joe Johnson:you ain't getting my dick my bad excuse me ain't nothing free

15:01Shannon Sharpe:you running hell of a ship over there yeah man nah I mean I will but I just like look you know what I'm saying you in charge huh you say you in charge no no no no I mean after an argument I will have sex I will but me I just like I don't you know just let me go to sleep let me put my CPAP machine on and go to bed my CPAP machine what the hell is that I have sleep apnea which means I stop breathing throughout the course of the night it shoots condensed air up your nostrils and it helps the palate relax.

15:57Joe Johnson:I mean, I can fix that. Just a little diet, a little nutrition to fix that, huh?

16:02Shannon Sharpe:Nah. What you mean, Ojo? What you got?

16:08Joe Johnson:Oh, for sleep apnea? How you say it, Ojo?

16:10Shannon Sharpe:Sleep apnea.

16:11Joe Johnson:Yeah, get you some avocado, right?

16:15Shannon Sharpe:I hate avocado. See? He ain't really got no taste, though. That's why I don't understand. And that is ugh. and you know you in college would you like some avocado toast I didn't ask for that I just said let me get a breakfast sandwich I said let me get some eggs I ain't mention nothing but no avocado toast I don't want no avocado on no McMuffin I don't want no avocado on no bagel I don't want none of that oh you like avocado what with a little salt and pepper man nah it ain't got no taste y 'all eat oysters No. Yeah, why? Why eat oysters? What? I don't eat no oysters. I don't eat no oysters. Yeah, you eat oysters, man.

16:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. But you eat Rocky Mountain oysters too, though, right, Ocho? Rocky Mountain? I ain't never been to Rocky Mountains. Ain't that in Colorado? Yeah, it is. But that ain't what you eat, though. It's bull or hog testicles. I don't know.

17:15Joe Johnson:No, I ain't never did that at all.

17:17Shannon Sharpe:But, hey, that's what Uncle Ocho enjoys, bitches. We own it. Yeah, we own it. Joe, bring your cripple ass on. Hold on. So that's like we on some Fear Factor shit. Hey, it's Uncle Ocho Adventures featuring Joe. We're supposed to have adventures, not a cooking show. You gotta eat stuff. That's an adventure. Man, we're supposed to do more killing shit. You eating goat eyes, hog eyes, ears. Yes, you eat all that stuff. Yeah, we're gonna go both. We going to go paragliding and we going to go skydiving? Hold on, hold on. I know you ain't doing no paragliding. I know you ain't doing that. Hey, I thought we was going to kill stuff, man.

18:06Shannon Sharpe:This already did.

18:07Joe Johnson:You ain't got to kill it. Just eat it. If we going to do it right, let's do it where we kill it and then eat it. No.

18:18Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to put you on the farm. I'm going to have you catch the hog because they have to castrate because, you know, they got too many. You can't have too many male hogs, so you have to castrate them. Okay, I got him. I got him. I got him. You got to hold the legs now, Ocho. I'm going to hold his leg. I got him. No, like this, Ocho. You got to hold his hind legs. Yeah. I got him. And then what do I do to him? You're going to be, what?

18:42Joe Johnson:What do I do to him?

18:45Shannon Sharpe:Sorry, Chad. I'm sorry, neighbors. What do I got to do to him? You got to hold it. The guy on the farm, he's going to come and take his testicles out.

18:56Joe Johnson:Okay. I can do that. I don't need no help.

18:59Shannon Sharpe:You can't do that. Because you got to make sure you have both of them. Because if you don't want to take one, they'll want to go back in there and he'll still be able to impregnate and you don't want that.

19:09Joe Johnson:Ah, okay. Okay. Okay. I'm ready. I'm ready.

19:14Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we going to go deer hunting? I'm not going with you nowhere with no gun. I might do some bow hunting with a little arrow. I ain't doing nothing with no crossbow. You not finna dick chaining me. You not finna shoot me in my ass.

19:29Joe Johnson:I ain't gonna shoot you. I know you're not.

19:31Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna be in a different area. Okay. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah. Different area. You don't even know how to carry a gun. You don't even know how to carry a gun. I got my CDLs, huh? CDL is a trucking license.

19:49Joe Johnson:I mean you know what I'm trying to say my license that's what I'm talking about I knew it started with a C

19:58Shannon Sharpe:hey Ocho I don't want you too far away from me I need to keep you in eyesight I need to be able to see where you at you know what I mean nah for real I need to keep a good eye on you

20:12Joe Johnson:it's what I do Joe Hey Joe I used to be in the field I don't want to bring him a pad but I used to be out there in the field Joe I know how to work that thing man Out there in Florida Man Joe Come on Joe man It's me man I'm out the city Joe First of all

20:33Shannon Sharpe:He ain't never been hunting before in his life Joe He ain't never shot nothing I've been hunting I've been hunting You might have done some two-legged hunting but you ain't with no four legs okay yeah yeah yeah yeah you been fox hunting if you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah hello

20:55Joe Johnson:I done hunted in every field

20:58Shannon Sharpe:in every aspect but I ain't trust you like I said you got to show me I got to see you go to the range I got to see how you hold a gun I got to see all of that I'm like King Vaughn You don't hunt with no pistol bro You take a shotgun or you take a high caliber rifle, you take a 30-06 you take a 30-30, you take a 223 I got a Draco Man that ain't what you go hunt with You hunt ninja with a Draco We ain't hunting them Okay, I'm ready man Man, it's what I do, though. You know, I can adapt. We go hunt pigs. We go to some place in Texas. They got places. They got those feral pigs. Then we go hunt pigs.

21:48Joe Johnson:OK, OK, OK. Hey, when I draw that thing up, well, I'm telling you, Bob. Ocho, you shooting a shotgun or you shooting a high caliber rifle.

21:59Shannon Sharpe:You not shooting no pistol. So you ain't going to hold nothing like that. OK.

22:09Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe. Hey, that recoil, that gun gonna kick back and kick him in his eye.

22:14Joe Johnson:Nah, it's gonna be right here on my shoulder, Unc.

22:17Shannon Sharpe:It's gonna be right here on my shoulder. But here's the thing. If you got a high caliber rifle with a scope on it, and the recoil, the scope will come back and hit you dead in your eye if you don't hold it firm enough, Ocho. I know how to do this, Unc.

22:30Joe Johnson:Man, I'm telling you, man. Hey, with that piece, with that piece, Unc, I'm like that, man. I'm good. I'm telling you. I just don't want to talk about my past like that I'm a nigga

22:41Shannon Sharpe:You ain't shot an animal Hey um

22:46Joe Johnson:I done shot squirrels, raccoons posses

22:50Shannon Sharpe:What you was shooting with?

22:53Joe Johnson:Pillow gun? You was shooting pillow gun? Nah I love AR You ain't shooting no AR Yeah cause they used to take Listen

23:04Shannon Sharpe:Hopefully you shooting squirrel with a 22 That's what I hope you use Nah nah nah We not eating it

23:13Joe Johnson:We in the city Hey Joe Where I'm from You got to make a statement You got to let the squirrels know You got to let the possums know If they see one of their homies get it They know and understand This ain't the house to be playing with

23:28Shannon Sharpe:That ain't how it works Do you realize how squirrels are? Yeah squirrels are animals that if one if one vacates the area others come in that's how they operate so that's why unless you like when you have animals in your house like you have squirrels that's why you have to remove them and board up where they came in at because once they leave if you get those out and you don't fix that area in which they came in i'm gonna come right back in there yeah now i ain't telling what somebody tell you i'm telling what I know. So you get rid of them. Oh, they saw what I did to his homeboy. They ain't going to come back.

24:05Shannon Sharpe:It don't work like that. They'll give a damn what you did. They glad you did that to their homeboy. So now they got a good place where they can go rest and put food in your walls. Especially if they got babies. They about to have babies. Oh, they coming. I'm telling you. Man, look here. I thought I had the Olympics. I had the Squirrel Olympics except my house. They were getting down. What? Joe, at night when I tried to go to sleep, like a disco. I said, oh, man. Man, I think they trapped like 14.

24:47Joe Johnson:Damn. Yes. They didn't respect y 'all, man. Girls riding in the city, they respected me, man. I ain't play that.

24:59Shannon Sharpe:Nah. That ain't how it works. Hey, look. We can go catch alligator turtles. We can go noodling. Joe, you ever been noodling? Nah, what's noodling? Noodling is when you go catch those big catfish, but you have to stick your hand in a hole. Okay. Okay. I like that. And they grab your hand. Yes. They bite that on your hand and you pull them out.

25:21Joe Johnson:Yes. I like that. Now, that's fun. That's fun.

25:24Shannon Sharpe:I like that. Now, you might, hey, it might be an alligator snapping turtle. We got to be careful. It might be a moccasin. That's fine. So you know what I'm saying, Joe? You know what I'm saying, Joe? You know it. I'm ready. Listen. Ocho just talking. He ain't finna stick his hand in no hole. I ain't tripping jokes. I ain't tripping jokes. You ever been frogging? Yeah. Man, you ain't never caught no frog joke. That joke ain't never been at no night catching bullfrogs. You talking about, oh, yeah, one of them big bullfrogs? We got bullfrogs in Miami. Yeah. Just because y 'all got them, that don't mean you go catch them.

26:04Shannon Sharpe:What you think we did as kids, unk?

26:07Joe Johnson:I caught bullfrogs. It's legit. You be out there catching them iguanas, don't you? Yeah. Man, we don't really bother iguanas, though. They be in this period. They be chilling. I don't really bother iguanas. But bullfrogs, as a kid, I used to catch bullfrogs. And I used to dissect them in class.

26:25Shannon Sharpe:Man. You probably dissect them in class, but and we going to eat the legs.

26:33Joe Johnson:Man, I done had frog legs. Chocolate cup of frog legs.

26:36Shannon Sharpe:I had frog legs before.

26:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, when I was in India. It tastes like chicken.

26:43Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'm ready for this, boy. I can't wait, boy. Man, you always talk about you can't wait for something. You ain't going to do nothing. I just want us, we got to hang together like we family, man. It's going to be fun, man.

26:55Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, Ocho, you got the shot. I don't know about Joe. I don't really trust you like that. Because I'm going to tell you something about guns. Them things ain't nothing to play with, bro. How you going to tell me, Unc? You know where I'm from? Yeah, I know where you from. I know you ain't never had no shotgun or no high-power rifle. That's what I do.

27:11Joe Johnson:I grew up, Unc, I grew up in a war zone, man. I had to protect myself, Unc.

27:15Shannon Sharpe:They ain't shooting shotguns. And they not shooting high-caliber rifles. They not.

27:19Joe Johnson:No, no, no. they shooting high caliber now. Come on now. Come on now.

27:24Shannon Sharpe:Man, look here. Man, Ocho, I got, I, I, I, I would take your word for it, but, uh, you got to show, you got to, Joe, I, I'll let Joe go. You go with Joe first. And if y 'all come back, I'll go next. I'll show you my footage. I go, I go next. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics.

28:02Hey,

28:09I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people, like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer, and that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartum depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

28:42I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place soccer, football, it's home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull.

29:27It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like it? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

30:12We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randle. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.

30:34Shannon Sharpe:Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War.

31:11Shannon Sharpe:To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky Statehouse that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.

31:45You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

31:55Shannon Sharpe:The Chiefs could be officially eliminated from the playoff contention in Week 15, and Travis Kelsey said the situation is a tough reality for the 6 and 7 team to be in. neither Kelsey nor the Chiefs have missed the playoffs since 2015 during the latest episode of new heights Trav said I feel like I've always had answers in years past and this year I just can't find them I keep thinking if I show up to work and put in the work and fix the issue through my practice habit through perfecting the game plan and my fundamentals is what I've been taught and to go out there and try to play my ass off of the guys next to me and it's all come together like his years past and this year it's just not tough yeah stuff it happens it's coming to an end yep yeah he knows it everybody knows it and the thing is is that is that when you you it happens a lot Ocho you can take it uh Joe when you start to press you're not playing like you want to play it's late in the ball game and you want to make every play you want to take every play to the house.

32:53Shannon Sharpe:And so in order to do that, you got to like, sometimes you got to like do this. You see my eye on the ball, Joe? Yeah. Because I'm trying to get going. I'm trying to get going. And ball on the ground. And he had a situation Mahomes put a little behind him. He dropped that one. He threw another one, what we call a cell rock. And that one popped up in there. It was all on his head. and Al Shazier ends up taking it off and picked it. So it's frustrating because you know you're closer to the end than the beginning. And this might be the end.

33:32Joe Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and it sucks. It sucks for Trav because I think he came back, you know, contemplating retirement last year, but he didn't want to finish his career off that way. He came back this year hoping things would be different. and just as a team, it just hasn't gone well at all. And most of the time, one of the things that really hurt and really bothers you as a competitor is you put the work in during the week. You put the same hours doing the same formula, which you did in the past, and the end result was the Super Bowl. And now you're doing the same thing, and things just aren't going well.

34:09Joe Johnson:The ball is not following your way. The calls you normally get from the refs, they're not going your way this time.

34:14Shannon Sharpe:It's just a hard reality.

34:16Joe Johnson:Yeah.

34:17Shannon Sharpe:And that's the hardest part, coming to grips with that. Because, like I said, my thing was, Joe and Ocho, I could go out there, like, there'll be a game, I'll go get you 130. Two touchdowns. Next game gonna be 30 yards. Next game gonna be 40 yards. I couldn't do it back-to-back. When I was in my, like, year 6, 7, 8, 150, 161, 130, 30, 99 and two tubs. Couldn't do it anymore.

34:52Joe Johnson:Yeah.

34:52Shannon Sharpe:I can still have a big game. You go about, I think my last year, my last year, second to the last game, I go seven for 101, three touchdowns, offensive player of the week. But in between that, I just couldn't, you know, play who we played. We played the Chargers. Always had a good game against the Chargers. So week before the bye week, Chargers. 13, 153, three touchdowns, offensive player of the week. Come out the bye week, get the Ravens, nine for a buck, 61. You know, I'm cooking like that, guys. I'm cooking like that. I'm white hot. You know what I'm saying? You see that? Ooh, I don't touch that.

35:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'm like that. I'm killing everybody. Man, as you start to get older, it's tough and you I'm sore right it's taking me longer whereas before I could I could I could play I could play on a Sunday and I felt like my first couple years on show like that Sunday like that Sunday Thursday game nothing at all yeah nothing Joe what yourself you're 10 where is the bye week? Y 'all looking for the bye, Joe?

36:20Shannon Sharpe:It's hard to back to back that thing like that, man.

36:27It's just it's tough on him because we've seen a guy

36:33Shannon Sharpe:you can make the case and I can and I do. I think it's between him and Gronk. But I think When you go look at the playoffs and you talk about a guy that has as many yards and as many touchdowns as Jerry Rice, and we know how we all hold Jerry Rice in very high regard, you look at his numbers in the playoffs and they're right there. And what he's done in big moments, he's always been, especially in a playoff, excuse me, in playoff games, Travis has been that. Yeah. It is hard when you can't be that anymore. Yep. hmm gee isn't it funny how time just slips on away happens to us all it happens to us all and uh and like he said he used to be able to fix that joe yeah he used to go hey oh this is what i did wrong you know what instead of instead of trying to rip i probably should have did arm over instead of arm over i should have ripped right instead of any of that i probably should have collided him, knock him off balance, break away from him.

37:37Shannon Sharpe:You know what? Maybe I need to drop my hips a little more. Maybe I need to sell it a little more. But after, I mean, after a while, you see a guy in a movie long enough, you already know what type of movie he going to do. That's a good one. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough on count with Joe. Because, I mean, as a competitor, I mean, obviously, you know, the way the season ended for him last year in the Super Bowl, he couldn't retire like that so he had to come back. You know what I mean? So when do you say or when do you feel like or even think that, man, I should just probably go and give it up?

38:18Shannon Sharpe:It's hard to do that. It is. Because it's harder for a great player to give it up. Because when you're great, that's all you know. And it's hard for you to be anything but great.

38:33Joe Johnson:one thing about it joe and on that film won't lie to you that let you know you might think you're great but the eye in the sky does not lie and you can look like a shell of yourself and watching and watching yourself your body language your mannerisms it'll let you know yeah i just ain't got it no more and not the blocks hey i'm always one step behind yeah i mean and then you know

38:59Shannon Sharpe:you looking at guys i'm looking at guys that started to guard they start letting anybody guard me. I'm like, y 'all don't got no more respect than that for me. I'm like, who are you? Where you come from? Oh, I'm offended, Joe. I'm offended. I know, yeah. I'm like, you're the I'm used to get, hold on, I'm used to getting your best corner. I get number one on third down. Now they just got some guy.

39:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I'm used to getting double and triple team. I don't even know this dude guarding me. Who is this? Yes! That's what they got. That's all the respect they got for me now. Y 'all ain't playing no boxing one? Hey, y 'all ain't playing zone, but got a man traveling me everywhere I go? That's what I used to get, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. They're playing zone, but I got a guy going to meet and I got to read it. Like, hold on, man, why you stop? I said that's a zone. But yeah, you got a guy tailing you. Oh, my goodness. And now they just got some Joe Smo out there. Because that's back when you had them batteries in your league.

40:14Shannon Sharpe:You ain't got them batteries no more. Man, look here. Hey, start, stop. Hey, the Zorro rock, that heads it. That, ah. you hey Ocho you drive a stick you drive a stick yeah getting on that clutch too hard that was me that's how I was starting to stop it shit hey run through contact I run through contact man I start getting year 13 year 14 I hit that blinker let me get on up out of bounds especially if it's cold yeah it is

41:01Joe Johnson:I want none of that

41:04Shannon Sharpe:and you watch guys as they start to get older watch how easy they go down

41:10Joe Johnson:nobody want none of that

41:14Shannon Sharpe:so Joe you start looking at them guys in year 12 year 13 watch how quick they pull that turf over their head you think they jumping in the bed when it's cold They get that turf up on them.

41:26Joe Johnson:Hey, listen, that's called a business decision. Absolutely. As you get older, you make more and more of them. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics stuck on a fused spark plug. The long-haul trucker stuck in gridlock. Performing, working late at the field office. or anytime there's no time or space to spit, there's Copenhagen spit-free pouches. Find them in stores today. Not all varieties available in all geographies. Warning, this product can cause mouth cancer. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb.

42:06Together, we're gonna have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people. Like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer and that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartum depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

42:36I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place. Soccer. Football. It's home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breathe? I inherited that fandom from my mom. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull.

43:20It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

43:44What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast, Point Game, is about defying the odds. like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reed, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randle.

44:18And then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history, too.

44:27Shannon Sharpe:Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running on the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War.

45:04Shannon Sharpe:To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. To get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.

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45:49Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, in a stunner, Michigan has fired his head coach, Sherron Moore. According to reports by Dan Weissel and Adam Schefter, Pete Bamel added that the firing will be for cause. Michigan Athletic Director Wardy Manuel said in a statement that Moore was fired after an internal investigation revealed credible evidence of an inappropriate relationship with a staff member, which is a violation of university policy. Moore took over the full-time job from Jim Harbaugh, who left to go to coach the Chargers in 2024 after the Wolverines won a national championship. Remember, he filled in a couple of games when Harbaugh was suspended.

46:24Shannon Sharpe:He was the offensive coordinator and he was the interim head coach, and that's how he parlayed that into the job. Michigan knew about Moore's situation for a while and eternally waited after the signing day period to take action, according to Josh Pate. Pate claims insiders have been expecting the job to come open for weeks, and now Michigan has likely already engaged in potential candidates. Ocho,

46:52Shannon Sharpe:Sharon Moore, it's alleged, it's being reported that someone was on the staff. Yes. Elevated her to his executive assistant, ended up having a relationship with her. If I'm not mistaken, he has a wife. I think he has a couple of kids, two, three kids.

47:14Shannon Sharpe:we saw a situation with I made you docker. We saw a situation with Mel Tucker. It's happened. I think Rick Pitino had a situation like that. I think Bobby Petrino had a situation like that. What are your thoughts on Joe? I mean, then I go to you, Joe, you,

47:35Joe Johnson:you got to be careful. You got to be mindful. Obviously at, at some point we in, we in positions of power, you almost somewhat feel invincible um uh taking advantage and abusing that power that said power uh for those that that work with you or or part of an entity that you are part of and you think you're safe yeah i think you say you you you take all the right right steps you do all the right measures to ensure your safety and that individual does hoping everything they can to to make sure to protect you and what you guys have going on. But for some reason, every time a situation like this does happen where you think nobody can be able to pull back the covers or the layers on what you have going on, it always gets out every time.

48:24Joe Johnson:Because there's so many stories of these type of situations happening. It's sad that it's come to this. Wife, family, embarrassment that they have to deal with. The young lady who's also a part of this, the embarrassment that her and her family are going to have to deal with. It kind of sucks. It sucks real bad on both ends for both parties that are involved.

48:49Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I don't think there's a way you can feel safe in a situation like this. It's almost like looking over your shoulder every time, you know what I'm saying, you go to work. I mean, at some point, you know, maybe some guys don't get caught, but more times than not, man. Yeah. You know, it's just a tough situation, bro. You got to have the discipline. You got to lead by example. You know, you lead men, so you want to be an example to them, lead them the right way, and to have this, it's just unfortunate, bro. I think the thing is that

49:30Shannon Sharpe:all the situations that you've heard you never think a situation like this can happen to you even though you're doing what you've heard about nah this is going to be different, she ain't like that, it ain't going to happen, it ain't going to get out don't nobody know but her and I, blah blah blah and

49:50Shannon Sharpe:I can imagine six, seven months ago I went through something very similar so I know what that storm is like. Unless you've been in it

50:04Shannon Sharpe:that's why when people say this is what I would do, you don't know what you would do until you're in it. Until you're in that pressure cooker. Until you're in the eye of the storm. Until you're in

50:21Shannon Sharpe:don't you and I have had a conversation so you know I know I know you know to be in to be in that storm and to know everybody know all your everything that you work your entire life for you feel it like it's crumbling right before your eyes gone. Yeah. And the only people that's going to be there, the only is going to be a select few. It's going to be a select few. That's the hardest part.

51:12Shannon Sharpe:I mean, everybody, look, Look, and I understand the situation, but if you're married and you engaged in an inappropriate relationship, why would you do that? You married. See, everybody always say, why would you do that? Why would you do that? Well, if you thought you was going to get caught, if you thought something was going to go wrong, you wouldn't do it. The same reason you speed. If you thought you was going to get caught, you think you would speed? No. Unless you're a kleptomaniac, you're not going to steal. You know, klepno just can't happen. But some people, you don't shoplift. You don't steal stuff if you think you'll get caught.

51:49Shannon Sharpe:That's why a lot of people, most robberies happen at when? At night. You got the veil of darkness. Because I don't want to get caught. I don't want to be seen. The same thing while you creep. Most times, what would the creeping take place? At night.

52:07Shannon Sharpe:Boy, college professor told me, say, the night has a thousand eyes. and on most nights it has a thousand and two because somebody sees you

52:15Joe Johnson:oh yeah I'm writing that down that's a good one there boy

52:21damn

52:22Shannon Sharpe:say the night has a thousand eyes on most nights it has a thousand and two because somebody sees you

52:31Joe Johnson:I don't know when I'm going to be able to use that in conversation

52:37Shannon Sharpe:and then the other report that came out that he was arrested and things that, you know, the things escalated.

52:50Damn.

52:55Shannon Sharpe:That old hoo-ha point. Hey. It's undefeated. Think about Samson and Elilah. David and Bathsheba.

53:11Joe Johnson:and it made a fool of it made a fool of us all at some point in some way shape form or fashion one of the most powerful things one of the most powerful things on earth

53:29Shannon Sharpe:boy boy that's a hell I would there are some people I have I don't hate anybody but there's a few people I really have a strong disliking for I wouldn't wish what I went through on Bill

53:51I wouldn't I wouldn't

53:55Shannon Sharpe:boy it was tough boy it was some days that all I had was not you Ojo and Joe my family that was there nobody else was there all the phone calls people used to call and hey how you doing what's up stopped

54:24Shannon Sharpe:I think that was the besides that yeah it was embarrassing but I think that was the toughest part that people that you thought would always be in your corner all of a sudden they weren't there

54:39and

54:43Shannon Sharpe:I just remember my brother calling me every day like man tell me a joke maybe like hey I know you got some story tell me what Papa used to do in this situation what would Papa say what would Granny say what would this he was always trying to pick me up he said nah bro he called he called Shelly how's he doing today Shelly like he ain't doing and good. He called. My sister called. Bucket called.

55:10Shannon Sharpe:I think the hardest thing was when Bucket called and was crying. That was really the only time that I broke down because I'd never seen Bucket cry. I saw him cry one time when his brother got killed when we were in college. The only time I had seen Bucket cry. And when he cried, he broke down. Now I broke down.

55:33Shannon Sharpe:man, I was like, bro, I said, oh, boy, we're going to be okay. We're going to be okay. I said, there are better days on the horizon. We just got to weather the storm. Just got to stand it. Sharon, I can tell you, bro, you got to stand in it. You got to A. I remember Mary Port used to always tell us, and I didn't really understand because I had really never gone through anything. she said boy everybody they're either entering the storm they're in the storm or they're coming out of the storm there's only three phases everybody's doing something you're in it you're coming in it you slap dab in the smack in the middle of it or you're leaving it damn

56:23damn

56:24Shannon Sharpe:on it

56:29just damn

56:32Shannon Sharpe:someday you're like man am I gonna wake up is this a dream am I gonna wake up nah bro it's real that's what Sharon is thinking right now I guarantee you he's like this is a dream is this real did this it really happen just like that

56:53Joe Johnson:blink of eye just like that everything that you worked a lifetime

56:58Shannon Sharpe:for all these bricks that you stopped what is that Jenga you try to pull one out and don't topple down you know

57:20Shannon Sharpe:start stacking all back over again

57:29Shannon Sharpe:all right we're gonna get out here on this one's our final segment of the evening it's time for q and a humanism

57:42Shannon Sharpe:damn oh yo yo guy el pregnant a oh yo frank sinatra was one of my top five most listened to artists this year. If you could go back and hang with the Rat Pack, what would be your top three songs you're playing for Old Blue Eyes?

57:55Joe Johnson:Ooh, if I can go back and hang with the Rat Pack, top three songs, probably My Way, which is probably my favorite, which is a representation of myself and the way I do things in life. My Funny Valentine is another one I really, really like. I'm trying to think. There's one more. there's one more, there's one more, there's one more that I really, really try so many to pick from.

58:27Joe Johnson:Golly.

58:33Joe Johnson:Oh, there's so many.

58:41Joe Johnson:My way, probably New York. New York. That theme song, New York. There's so many. He just put me on the spot with that one, bro. That's my three.

58:59Shannon Sharpe:El Pray Night 8. All right, so Joe, have you received your nightcap awards yet? Or that dinner and the A with a... Yeah, Joe, go get him before you get yours, Ocho.

59:11Joe Johnson:Who? Joe. I told you. I told you. Listen, I know how to get in your house. I ain't tripping. Joe I know how to get in the house I took my last two while he was on the road

59:24Shannon Sharpe:you ain't got them jerseys though oh nah

59:27Joe Johnson:I'm gonna get them next time they're not playing you Ocho I tried to barter you

59:33Shannon Sharpe:I think they sent them to

59:39Shannon Sharpe:they're on the way alright they're on the way at all 513, after watching the game, interview on Club Shea Shea, I decided that whenever I mess up and get called out, I'm just saying I was 24. Yeah, you noticed that? True and infamous, 73-41, LaMelo Ball, LeVar Ball. You can't say basket or ball, Lakers in Cancun. But it's a temporary setback, temporary setback. They got us tonight. 10-9-Jay, 1367. please set up the podcast Olympic challenge we're going to work on it we're going to see what we can do we're definitely going to see what we can do Mike and Mike TJ7 UNC everyone responding to the podcast Olympic challenge is hilarious I hope y 'all do set it up and prove y 'all the champs and everything and have the bragging rights over the podcast world man uh Pappy Ray 9445 who's your top five all time ISO players Joe My top five all-time isoclis.

1:00:49Ocho.

1:00:51Shannon Sharpe:Now I'm going obviously I'm going to go MJ. Yep. Kobe. Yep.

1:01:02I'm going

1:01:03Shannon Sharpe:KD.

1:01:06I'm going I'm going

1:01:11Shannon Sharpe:Penny Hardaway, man. That was Penny Hardaway and Michael Jordan, two guys, and Kobe, two guys I watched growing up. We get what you mean, Joe. Yeah. One, man, three? No. You say the two guys you like walked you up was Penny Hardaway, Jordan, and Kobe. That was three guys, but I know what you meant. Three. Yeah, yeah, three. Three.

1:01:37Shannon Sharpe:Who else? Iso guys. Man, come on. You're forgetting one of the greatest Iso players ever. who you got my own James Harden yeah I played with James that year he averaged 36

1:01:53Joe Johnson:he averaged 36 yeah

1:01:57Shannon Sharpe:man listen Ocho

1:01:59Joe Johnson:damn

1:02:00Shannon Sharpe:shout out to James Harden he moved in top 10 in scoring in history he just moved in 10th place I think yeah for sure James You couldn't stop him, Ocho. Yeah. You got one more. You can only put one more in there. So you got AI, you got Melo. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, AI, Allen Iverson. Okay. Yeah, you're right. I play, hey, look. I came in, I came in the NBA 2001. AI was at the pinnacle, at the peak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, nothing you can do about it, man. He came in here. He came in Atlanta one time my first year here. T. Lou was a point guard. I don't know what he got against T. Lou, but he gave us 55.

1:02:51Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to look. Hey, Ojo, he gave us 55. He stayed out until 6 in the morning. They said that our security, he said, yeah, man, I stayed out until 6 in the morning. Y 'all going to be all right tonight. He scored 55 and got kicked out the game. He ain't even finished the fourth quarter. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Aretha Burton, 83-46. TMR wants all the smoke. Up and Chico. What is it? Y 'all scared.

1:03:29Shannon Sharpe:Man, they don't want none of us. Everybody be talking. Sheldon Pope, 51-25. Is the Mavs going to trade 80 this year? I mean, I've been reading that. everybody up for trade except Cooper Flagg. Yeah, that's what I've been seeing too. You can't trade Isaiah Lively now. I mean, you can't trade Lively because he just had Serge on his foot. He's out for the season. But I guess Gafford, I guess AD, I guess Kyrie. Yeah. I done heard Kyrie naming that too.

1:04:04Shannon Sharpe:So they blowing up the whole spot. it'll look like it Josh R 2808 y 'all just go fishing and call it a day oh we can go fishing too we can do that too oh yeah yeah why they bumping them I know them country bumpers they ain't never been fishing

1:04:31Shannon Sharpe:at D underscore tune Ocho, do the Cardinals have a new wide receiver one in Michael Wilson? He's been balling with Jacoby Brissett and we haven't seen Marvin Harrison Jr. do anything this if we keep it in the book. He balling his ass off. That number 14 for the Cards, Ocho?

1:04:51Joe Johnson:Yeah. One thing about it, all you need is opportunity. Yes. You get that opportunity, you have to make the most of the opportunity. And when you play as well as he's playing, I wouldn't say he's better than Marvin Harrison like that, but he sure is showing out. He's showing up. That ain't nothing but an audition. That's all it is.

1:05:17Shannon Sharpe:But you see what happens? See, I like when the backup would come in, he thought who's going to get open. That's what he doing. He ain't got, oh, with this guy number, with this guy, with drafted this. I'm going to throw it to the guy Joe that ain't going to throw it back. Right, right, right. Michael Wilson cooking. He's cutting up. He is, Ocho. He absolutely is. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you very much. As the San Antonio Spurs advance to the semifinals of the NBA Cup, thanks to a 132-119 victory over the Los Angeles Lakers, they will take on the OKC Thunder. And on the other side, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's the Knicks taking on the Orlando Magic.

1:06:08Shannon Sharpe:That's where they are at that. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite dog, Shannon Sharp, and my partner and co-host, the Liberty City legend, Bingo, Ring of Fame Arteree, a former Pro Bowler and an All-Pro. That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three joins us every Wednesday night, University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock Arkansas native, seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks. ISO Joe Johnson. Appreciate you joining us again, Joe. Yes, sir. Thank you. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor.

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