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10:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. I think Larry Mishaw was on that team. They had a squad, but Jimmy V. I think that was in Albuquerque. Hey, how you say their name again? Fly Slamma Jamma. Fly Slamma.

10:37Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, as soon as you said that, the first thing that went in my head was School Days for some reason. What'd you know about School Days, Ojo? I mean, you know, School Days is a good movie. That's a classic, Joe. Yeah.

10:54Shannon Sharpe:Fast Slamma Jamma. That's the first thing I thought about was school days. Wasn't that in New Mexico? Wasn't that championship in New Mexico? Because I think it was a... I didn't realize Louisville went to in 83. I'm trying to think who was on Louisville squad.

11:16Shannon Sharpe:Wow, I didn't know Louisville went, man.

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16:43Shannon Sharpe:Kansas beat California Baptist 68-60 for about 35 minutes. They looked pretty easy for Kansas, which was up by 26 points on Cal Baptist before allowing the lead to shrink to six points with a minute left. The Jayhawks buckled down and escaped with a 68-60 victory, but it was not without unnecessary drama and questionable decisions down the stretch. Darren Peterson led all scores with 28 points, but vanished in the final minutes. Now, Kansas will face off against Big East Tournament champion St. John's on Sunday. That's right. Good dream. Bill Self, Rick Pitino. Matchup is happening. Uh-oh.

17:23Chad Johnson:That's going to be a good one, fella.

17:24Shannon Sharpe:I got St. John's. Hey. I got St. John's. What?

17:30Chad Johnson:You got St. John's. On your bracket? How did I put that? I don't know what I put. Hold on. You got St. John's to beat Kansas? Yeah, your bracket definitely. You might as well throw that in the trash now.

17:45Shannon Sharpe:I don't think St. John's should have been afforded. I think they should have been hired in that. but they got a chance to prove me wrong on Sunday.

17:56Chad Johnson:Hey, listen. When I was watching Kansas tonight, I know Dick Peterson got off to a slow start. Yeah. Because, you know, they've been saying he's going to be the number one pick. Him and AJ has been flip-flopping pretty much all year. Yeah. I like to see guys, when they get off the rough start, how they can contain their composure and stay in it. And look, and don't be gunshot. Still be aggressive. Still get into the bucket. Still taking your normal shots. Because if I'm a scout, if I'm an NBA scout, or you plan on playing on the next level, that's what I want to see. Like, your last shot, it can't affect the next shot.

18:33Chad Johnson:You feel what I'm saying? Like, you may have got off to a 1-6 shooting start, 1-7 shooting start. Hey, man, I want you to continue to be aggressive, continue to be the player who you are, because confidence goes a long way. I thought he played great, honestly. He didn't shoot great from the field, but I'm speaking from a mentality standpoint. Like knowing that, you know, I'm him. I'm better than y 'all out here. Right. You know what I mean? And my off night is a pretty good night.

18:59Shannon Sharpe:He was the only one that made threes. I mean, they were four for 19, and he made all four of his. He was 4 '11", though. Like you said, Joe, he didn't shoot the ball particularly well. He was 11 or 24 from the floor. But, hey, look, he's going to get the majority of the shots. he's their best player and like you said, that's what you have to do because if you think every night you're going to get off to a hot start it ain't happening

19:27Chad Johnson:it ain't happening nah, nah I thought those guys rallied around him though because I've seen Kansas play a couple times this year and they've had guys have big numbers outside of Dan Peterson but tonight nobody really showed up bro It was terrible. It was terrible.

19:44Shannon Sharpe:The only thing that hurt California Baptist is that it was worse shooting the ball than Kansas. Because Kansas was 26 of 65 from the floor. And Cal Baptist was 23 of 64. They were 4 of 17 from the three-point line. 10 of 19 from the three. Yeah.

20:05Chad Johnson:Man, when I watch them, they be so healthy-skeleton out there to start the game. Everybody be going so fast, Uncle Ocho. You know, like sometimes you just got to take a deep breath, relax. Like, calm down. Everybody playing at such just hyper level, you know, trying to play as hard as they can. But sometimes, man, you just got to relax a little bit and let the game come to you. And that's kind of what I've seen tonight, especially from Kansas. I know Kyle got back in it, but for the most part.

20:31Shannon Sharpe:But it's those arenas, man. That depth perception. Them guys ain't used to play in arenas like that, Joe.

20:38Chad Johnson:It's tough, bro. It's tough. The neutral sites, I'm telling you. Yeah. I'm telling you, it's tough. You can be close to home, but it's a whole different atmosphere.

20:48Shannon Sharpe:You know, they're trying to get as many fans as they can in these buildings, so these are ginormous buildings. Big, big buildings.

20:56Chad Johnson:Yeah.

20:56Shannon Sharpe:But Kansas moves on. Number four, Kansas takes down Cal Baptist. 6860, led by Darren Peterson with 28 points. All right. Joe, ISO is ranked 40th out of 379 entries with 260 points. Ocho is 219 with 240 points. And currently, I'm pulling up the rear, 333rd with 210 points. Hold on. You say I'm ranked what? 40th out of 379 entries. Hey, I'm high.

21:35Chad Johnson:We ain't gonna celebrate, y 'all? What we celebrating, Joe? I'm in front of you, Joe. No, you're not. No, you're not. No. I'm not? Man, wait a minute. I'm waiting. Man, you so far back there in the rearview mirror, I can't even see you. I had to adjust my mirror up here. Hey, you know what it say on the rearview mirror, right? What, I've been seeing closer than that mirror? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

21:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You right now, Ocho, you're not that close. And I'm even further back than you. Don't worry about it.

22:10Chad Johnson:I'm going to catch up. Oh, I'm definitely going to catch you. I'm going to catch up. Nah, y 'all might catch me because I got BYU going a little far. I mean, Joe, you're right. I mean, you did good today.

22:20Shannon Sharpe:What you did today, I mean, you did good today, Joe. You did real good today, Joe. I got it right today, huh?

22:26Chad Johnson:Hey, it ain't going to look like that tomorrow. You crazy. Hey, hey, hey, chill, chill. It's going to look like that tomorrow. Hey, boy, I'm cutting up down in the Midwest. Hey, Acuff didn't play tomorrow at 930, huh, Joe? Hey, what's up, Ocho? I'm just asking how you feeling, bro. Don't be no janky brother, man. You know what I mean? I ain't being no janky brother. Don't be janky, bro. I'm asking how you feel about your team, Joe. Yeah, I feel great. What do you mean? We locked in. Hey, my boy's locked in, man. OK, I'm not being negative. I'm just asking how you feeling. You might be a little nervous.

23:00Chad Johnson:you might have butterflies in your stomach that's all that's a good thing though i don't mind the butterflies it let me know though i'm ready for the moment okay okay yeah yeah you know pressure busts pipes huh it also make diamonds homie yeah it do it do yeah yeah so which one are you who me yeah joe i'm the one that talk all the so you know pressure don't mean

23:23Shannon Sharpe:nothing so when there's pressure you i mean your bracket looking real good joe i ain't I ain't going to hold you. You looking good.

23:30Chad Johnson:I appreciate you. Hey, look, why it be so hard for guys to compliment other guys? Just say, man, you did a great job. It's so hard. Why is it so hard for you and Ocho?

23:44Chad Johnson:Joe, the tournament just started. Why am I complimenting you and the tournament just started? These rounds count, Ocho. Yeah, they count, but it's about, hey, Joe, this ain't no sprint. This is a marathon. Okay, you're right. We clapping too early. the fat lady even sing yet. Right, hey look, I like to keep my hopes up high though. I ain't gonna lie to you, I like to feel good. I like to feel good when I'm playing the game. I like, you know what I mean? I like to be out in front. I don't mind leading the charge, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. Yeah, I like to be out in front. And you know what happened when you run that goddamn 400 or that 800, huh?

24:16And you get out there too goddamn fast? You know what happened on that, on the last 250? What happened? That monkey jump on your back, that's what happened. Yeah. Yeah, that monkey jump on your back, boy.

24:25Chad Johnson:and that lactic acid build up, boy, hey. And all you hear Joe, you hear the crowd say, whoop, whoop, whoop.

24:36Shannon Sharpe:I'm coming. Joe, you red track, Joe?

24:39Chad Johnson:Nah, all I did was whoop. Oh, that's all you did, Joe? I ain't did. That's all I did. I was around my homies when they played on the neighborhood baseball team. I used to go to the games, but I never played. When they played football, I ain't really go to the games, but I used to always hear about them. I never, I just, I only hoop, bro. When basketball came around, Uncle Ocho, Yeah. Even when it wasn't around, I was so locked in, man. That's all I wanted to do. You couldn't do that.

25:14Shannon Sharpe:Cause if you didn't play sports, Ocho, Joe, that means you had to work. That would work. So I'm trying to play every sport I can. One fall into the other. So by the time track was over, we only had about a month of school left because I'm going straight to the field. As soon as June 3rd, 4th hit, in the field we going. So if you didn't play in those sports, oh, you got to do something. Yeah. I'm not going to let you sit around no boy. Maybe the girls didn't have to do nothing, but a boy? Yeah. You wouldn't have fit to sit right in the mobile house and not do nothing. Just come home every day. Oh, hell no.

25:58Chad Johnson:No song. Oh, yeah. Whoopee. Whoopee. Yeah, see, Joe, I got it, Joe. I got it. I got it.

26:08Shannon Sharpe:Oh, the Indiana Pacers would reportedly, reportedly consider drafting Cam Boozer number one overall, No one in the NBA that I've consulted project, any sort of dramatic fall, either Peterson or Boozer. When it comes to Boozer, in fact, they're a sentiment. When people turn to telehealth or weight loss, they're looking for real support. That's why more people are choosing orderlymeds.com. Orderlymeds connects you with real doctors and access to proven GLP-1 medications like semaglutide and terzeptatide. No guessing, just a more supportive experience. And all shipped directly to your door in discreet packaging.

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31:00Shannon Sharpe:Among some rival teams that the Duke star would be Indiana's preferred selection, even if the Pacers were to come away with the number one overall pick because of the potential fit alongside Pascal Siakam and newly acquired Ibiza Zubat.

31:15Chad Johnson:Joe? Hey, I think he would fit. I actually think Boozer would fit great with Indiana. I ain't going to lie to y 'all. I just don't know if they're going to get the number one pick. But I can see him playing alongside Zubac, though. A good stretch, a good stretch four. Yeah. You know what I mean? He can shoot the three.

31:35Shannon Sharpe:I just don't.

31:36Chad Johnson:Post up a little bit.

31:37Shannon Sharpe:I just, look, I think he's phenomenal. And there's a great chance he's going to be player of the year. But I don't know if I can take him over AJ DeBonza. I just see too much upside Joe. No, I agree. I agree. You don't see the upside with Boozer though? You don't see the upside with Boozer? But this kid here. Different. Yeah, man. Because he gonna have the ball. 6 '9 with the ball. Shea with the ball. Luca with the ball. Cade with the ball. Ant-Man with the ball.

32:08Chad Johnson:Yeah.

32:08Shannon Sharpe:You see it's different when you got the ball. He gonna have the ball.

32:13Chad Johnson:I wanna see these guys. Yeah, I want to see these guys get into a situation where they can really flourish, though.

32:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

32:20Chad Johnson:You know, I want them, because I think these guys could be special. Some of this talent coming into the NBA this year that's going to be in this year's draft, it's a special talent, man. But I don't want to see them, honestly, coming off the bench, being this spark plug, man. Let them dudes play, man.

32:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I just think, I think Utah. Utah praying. There are a lot of people praying in Utah right now that they get that number one pick and get DeBonza. Because if Utah get that pick, they taking A.J. DeBonza. They're not taking Peterson. Oh, no doubt about it. They're not taking Cam. They're not taking anybody. They're taking A.J. DeBonza.

32:58Chad Johnson:No doubt about it. No doubt about it. I just feel like they're going to get it too. What's up? Hey, Joe, y 'all don't think – is DeBonza that much better than Peterson? Peterson?

33:11Shannon Sharpe:I think he better than him. I think he better, too, and I think at 6 '9", he'll bucket. Everybody keep talking about Peterson a bucket. DeBond's a bucket.

33:21Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah, and not only that, DeBond's a, AJ, he just seems like he loves playing the game. Like, he really, he thoroughly enjoys it. And that goes a long way with me, Ocho. You know what I mean? I like gym rats. I'm a gym rat. I like to be in the gym, whether it's by myself, working on my game, or I like guys who like to stay in the gym. Right. Yeah.

33:45Shannon Sharpe:When you're dealing with that number one pick, Ocho, you know what it is. The least amount of red flags. I can't be worried. I can't – Ocho, because as a general manager of an owner, I'm going to want to turn my phone off at night. I don't want the coaches to have to tell me that he's not going to play his little Nick. I just can't worry about stuff like that because in basketball, I mean, even in football now, at the quarterback spot, Ocho, you know in three years you're going to have to make a big old contribution. You're going to have to make a big old financial commitment. In basketball, you're going to have to make a big old financial commitment.

34:21Shannon Sharpe:I want to be able to make that commitment with the least amount of worries as I possibly can have.

34:26Chad Johnson:Yeah.

34:28Shannon Sharpe:That's just me. I think DeBonza will be the better player. I think he's the safer. and I hate because he's safe. No, no, no, no. I'm saying he's safe and he's really good. Yeah.

34:42Chad Johnson:I'm going to tell you who's probably going to go high that ain't nobody really thinking. Obviously, I think Darius Acuff can always improve his draft stock. I think he can creep into maybe a top three pick on the Ocho.

34:54Shannon Sharpe:I agree with you.

34:55Chad Johnson:But Caleb Wilson, who was at University of North Carolina.

35:00Shannon Sharpe:He's 16 now. 16 and 6, 11

35:03Chad Johnson:He can do everything. Put it on the floor, shoot the three. He going to defend. You know he keep receipts because he told y 'all throughout the season he got receipts. And he was going at everybody who, you know, played with him. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. So I like that about him. He going to compete. He got a lot of talent, bro. He got a lot of upside. That's why I say if you got a top seven pick in this draft, you're going to get a good play. Boy, it's a top eight. It's some talent in this draft, bro. But, you know, where you go, who you coach, yes.

35:42Shannon Sharpe:The veteran players in your locker room that help you.

35:46Chad Johnson:Yeah. Make a huge difference.

35:49Shannon Sharpe:And not be on some bull jog because they envious. Yeah. So.

35:56Chad Johnson:It goes a long way.

35:57Shannon Sharpe:Draymond Green said Cade Cunningham is not going to make the All-NBA team because of the dumbass 65-game rule. Dre said it doesn't fix the issue. It does not fix the issue at all. And here's a guy that's done everything right. He has a collapsed lung, and he's going to miss the All-NBA team because of this dumbass rule. The rule does not fix the issue. It's just ridiculous. So here we go again with these unintended consequences. Because if you think about it, Joe, making the all-NBA selection, that adds another$50,$75 million. Now, Cade Cunningham is going to miss out.

36:37Chad Johnson:Hey, look, now somebody else will step in.

36:39Shannon Sharpe:Somebody else is going to get a big old contract, Ocho. That's how it works.

36:44Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Hey, it's unfortunate because you had these unforeseen injuries, bro. Yeah. I seen the injury, and it's like, dang, a collapsed lung? Like, bro, this basketball, that don't happen. You know what I mean? And it's like now he going to have to miss out on all these other accolades because of this. It's unfortunate, bro. I ain't going to lie to you. Now they put the rule in because they wanted guys to stop all of the rest. All that load management. They wanted to cut it down, but it's going to hurt some guys who don't load manage. You know what I mean? Like Cade, unfortunately.

37:24Shannon Sharpe:yeah for sure and you see those guys you see what it does it gives Shea was able to get that extra money because he's an all NBA selection J-Dub was an all NBA selection so you see these guys getting this because they wanted to reward it's a blessing and a curse prior to 1980 the player selected the MVP and the all NBA team but they're like man y 'all be tripping. I don't like you, so I ain't voting for you. So they put it, they gave it to the players. They gave it to the writers. But now the writers have so much control. They get to determine who's going to get these two, three, $400 million contracts whether you like it or not.

38:09Yeah, that's crazy.

38:11Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, it's been like that in football. They select the all-pro teams. They select the all-pro teams.

38:21Damn.

38:22Shannon Sharpe:At least the Pro Bowl is kind of divided up. You got the fan vote. You got the players vote. And then you got the coaches, general manager, whatever the case may be. So it's a three-tier system. But all pro, it's all riders. The NBA, all NBA selection, all defensive selection, it is what it is. So there is no perfect answer. Because if you don't think players are biased, you're fooling yourself. because they're human. Right.

38:58Shannon Sharpe:Guys vote for the Pro Bowl. Guys vote for your bro. I'm like, bro, how you, bro? Really?

39:06Chad Johnson:Really? That's why they took it out.

39:09Shannon Sharpe:I mean, look, I know. But I took it serious because I know, look, because I want guys to be rewarded for their work, Ocho. And it might just be this one year that he had an out-of-body experience and he deserved to go to the Pro Bowl. But you want to put somebody in there that he had already gone five, six times. But he didn't deserve it this year. Yeah, and nothing they can do about that rule, huh? It's too late. They voted on it. Yeah. They voted on it. They said 65 games. That's messed up. I mean, listen, there's 65 games for those so they don't pull load management. There should be some type of grace period for those that are actually getting injured.

39:58Like injured for real, where it doesn't affect them the same.

40:01Shannon Sharpe:I mean, collapse lung. So what did he do? Was he in a car crash?

40:07Chad Johnson:Nah. Didn't he get knee, Joe? Yeah, he got knee on his side, like during the game, going for the ball. But he stayed in the game. It didn't look like nothing major. but you could see him. He kept reaching like this. Like you could tell you something was wrong and he went to the side and they took him to the back and he, you know.

40:31Chad Johnson:Just a regular routine play, bro.

40:33Shannon Sharpe:It takes a tremendous force to collapse alone because that's why you got ribs there.

40:39Chad Johnson:Yeah, he need him. He need him right there. Yeah.

40:46Hold on.

40:46Shannon Sharpe:Let's see something.

40:50Chad Johnson:You should know. Woo.

40:58Chad Johnson:The Razorbacks back at work later today, baby. Woo pig. Woo pig. Yeah, I got you. I got you, Joe. I got you. I got you.

41:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

41:12Shannon Sharpe:Well, hopefully they don't have to put no, run no tube down there and inflate it. Maybe with some just rest, it'll inflate back on its own.

41:19Chad Johnson:Mm.

41:21Shannon Sharpe:Damn. But we've all had the aeronaut data, so.

41:29Chad Johnson:That's why you got to be so lucky, bro, to win, man, because it's like everything could be going great. You could be having a hell of a season. And something like this happened, Arcan Ocho. Yeah. It seemed like it may be nagging, too. I can't see how it wouldn't be a nag, how it wouldn't linger.

41:48Shannon Sharpe:It says chest injury, blunt force trauma like a car accident or sports collisions. Penetrating trauma, gunshots, stab wounds can break ribs or puncture the lung directly. Small air blisters called bleeds can form on the top of the lungs and burst, allowing air to escape the chest cavities. this often happens without warning, particularly in a tall, thin people. So you guys are more susceptible because you're tall and thin. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you see that, Joe? That come in? See, Joe? All this come in handy.

42:26Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe, what you over there doing? Hey, he said thin. He talking to you, Joe. He ain't talking to me. You ain't thin? Man, Joe, I'm airbitter 220 right now, Joe. Hey, you see how I'm feeling at this jacket, huh?

42:44Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you got to chill. Oh, Joe, Joe, Cade missing time could potentially open the door for Jaden Durant to make an all-NBA team making him eligible for the five-year $288.8 million. Ooh.

43:01Chad Johnson:So, look, look, look, look, look. See, it helps somebody help your teammate. Hey, Cade already got about 260 already, huh? He the sign for about 260. What did Cade sign for?

43:14Shannon Sharpe:But see, here's the thing though, Joe. I'm trying to get me two more all NBA selections. So guess what? When that contract come up again, boom boom, Supermax again, 300. 300.

43:24Chad Johnson:300. Well, that's how, that, that, I ain't gonna say it's out of the picture, but you, you didn't help your homie.

43:29Shannon Sharpe:You have five years, 269. See ya.

43:31Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. five years, 269. That's just... That's filthy. That's good work. That's good work.

43:45Shannon Sharpe:That's filthy.

43:47Chad Johnson:That's filthy.

43:48Shannon Sharpe:Kevin Durant is 26 points away from passing Michael Jordan on the all-time scoring list. Obviously, LeBron James is number one at 43 ,229. Kareem is next at 38 ,387, followed by Karl Malone at 36 ,928. Kobe Bryant is number four at 33 ,643. Michael Jordan is currently in the number five spot at 32 ,292, followed by Kevin Durant, Dirk Nowitzki, Wilt Chamberlain, James Harden should be the next player that break into the 30 ,000 club. Shaq rounds out the top 10 with 28 ,596.

44:30Chad Johnson:Hey, congrats to KD, man. Oh, yeah. That's impressive. I mean, y 'all know MJ, my idol. To be able to pass him, I'm sure that'll be a hell of a defeat for KD. I'm happy for him. He's one of the best scorers to ever play this game. Super elite, super efficient. I enjoy watching him play. They beat my Hawks tonight. No, no, no. They blew the Hawks out of Joe. They broke our streak. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

44:56Shannon Sharpe:They got at us, they got at us. They got at us. They got at us. They would Reed Shepard block old boy, old boy dunk, Joe. It went downhill in the herd from there.

45:06Chad Johnson:Hey, Reed Shepard, hey, he can play. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah, I like he go out there, he compete, bro. He compete, I like it.

45:15Shannon Sharpe:Hey, him, Gillespie from Phoenix? Yes, sir. Hey.

45:23Chad Johnson:Ballers.

45:23Shannon Sharpe:They getting at it.

45:25Chad Johnson:yeah them boys hooping I mean that's a lot of points

45:35but you know in order to hit in order to reach those milestones you got to be available too yeah

45:42Chad Johnson:I agree Ocho

45:46Shannon Sharpe:he couldn't play

45:48Chad Johnson:he probably he was so peed off about the two games against the Lakers he had to take it out on Yeah.

45:56Shannon Sharpe:Because you can't fly. Normally they'd leave you overnight in the hospital. The K took a car service back to Detroit because when you fly, you can't fly with a collapsed lung. Yeah, you can't fly. No, no, no, no. They'd normally leave you overnight and then, you know. But man, KD doing this, man, look. The efficiency in which he does it is crazy.

46:26Chad Johnson:It is, bro. It's a beauty to watch, though.

46:30Shannon Sharpe:But you guys talking about what he did in this amount of time, you got to realize, look at the amount of shots that he took. It's shots. You're talking about years. I'm talking about shots. Ocho, if a quarterback throws the ball five, let's just say for the sake of argument, quarterback throws the ball 50 times a game. He should have the most passing yards at the end of the year, right? Absolutely. Throwing 50 a game, yeah. Jordan was taking 25, 26 shots a game. So what are you talking about? That's not the diminishing, but I'm saying y 'all try to diminish somebody because y 'all say, well, he did it in this amount of time.

47:10Shannon Sharpe:But even though the amount of times, look how many shots he's under the total. That's what y 'all say, like LeBron is playing this length of time. When he broke the record look how few fewer shots that he had Katie shooting 52 53 percent from the floor Amazing it doesn't take away any somebody passing an all-time great It doesn't take away from the great that they're passing because he did that Jordan got you cannot take six titles You can't take five MVPs. You can't take ten scoring titles you can't take the all NBA selections and you can't take the six final MVPs. But if you are an athlete and you pass somebody that's this story.

47:57Right.

47:59Shannon Sharpe:Bro, that's why you hear him say, bro, my name's going to be in this list.

48:05Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. They got to celebrate it. Yes. They got to celebrate it, especially when you hit a milestone like that. no matter how you feel about KD, whether you don't like him personally, whether you don't like his game, top five, whatever it may be. You got to celebrate someone doing something like that.

48:25Shannon Sharpe:And it's okay. I'm just the ilth of the cloth, guys, is that whatever I do, it does not take away from what Ozzie did, what John Mackey, what Dekka, what Big Kellen did. what Gronk has done what Gates what Neff Kelsey has done Witten that don't take away from me I did what I did congratulations to those guys I don't feel like man do you feel no I got everything out of my career I could get that's what my numbers were intended to be that so them breaking passing me when I left I was number one hell I don't know where I'm now Kelsey's passed me Witten's passed me Gates has passed me. Gonzo has passed me.

49:14Shannon Sharpe:Hell, somebody else about to pass me pretty soon. That's okay. I don't feel any less because these guys are passing me about my career. And I don't think anybody should feel, man, man, them jokers done passed me, man, man, what people are going to say? Huh? Yeah. Kareem, like, people didn't think nobody could get this record because only bigs played that long because they were the ones that didn't have to, you know, hey, go back and look at Kareem. Hey, Kareem get the rebound, kick that thing, ambled down the coat.

49:51Chad Johnson:Yeah.

49:52Shannon Sharpe:Give it to me, Magic. Yeah. With a sky hook. But for a guard, a guy that like LeBron to have the ball that length of time and to play that long, that's why nobody thought because what, thank you about what you have to do. LeBron had the average, 25 points a game for 20 years. For 20. People don't understand how insane that is. So when you look at Brady and look at the records, I mean, think about how long you're going to have to play just to break his passing record, his touchdowns record. Yeah, you're going to be able to – it's going to be – hey, they're going to 17 games, and they're going to go – eventually they're going to get to the 18 game.

50:34Shannon Sharpe:So, Ocho, so when you think about it, a guy played 15 years, that's basically two seasons right there of games. Yeah.

50:41Chad Johnson:Yeah.

50:41Shannon Sharpe:Yes. So when you look at a guy play 15, play, you know, 17 seasons, he's going to end up playing basically three more seasons. So now the numbers are going to be skewed, but it don't take away anything, guys. It doesn't.

51:01Chad Johnson:No. No. No. Hey, but I think LeBron going to continue to play guys because he's going to put this out of reach.

51:09Shannon Sharpe:He does. Yeah.

51:10Chad Johnson:He may not never come out and say it, but I promise you, he won't put this out of reach. I told somebody, I think he's going to play 25 seasons.

51:19Shannon Sharpe:Do you really? You heard Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant says if he really wants to, that's up to him. But he can play another four or five years. He can play until he's 45.

51:27Chad Johnson:Yeah. I think it's just more of the demanding on the body if you want to continue to have to go through them tough workouts or continue to stay disciplined. And, Joe, do you still want to put that time?

51:41Shannon Sharpe:It's easy to put that in when you're making$55 million. Do you want to put that same kind of time in when you're making$1.5 million, $2 million,$3 million on the minimum? Middle-level exception?

51:50Chad Johnson:Do you still want to do that there, Joe? If them endorsements right, I'm sure you will.

51:56Shannon Sharpe:He got that on lock. That ain't going the way. That ain't going the way. You know, he got the Nike deal. He has other stuff going on. So he's going to have money coming in. He got a lifetime contract with Nike that's probably paying him$25,$30 million a year for as long as he's breathing.

52:15Chad Johnson:Hey, and I've been seeing him in his golf bag too. Yeah, he picked that up.

52:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He picked that up. I guess he's like, you know what? Hey, and we hit the road. he picked up a little late. He probably should have got on that thing like Steph did way, way early. But the thing is with golf is that you got to play it so much to really get good at it. It ain't something that you can never put down and like, okay, I'll pick it back up in two weeks, three weeks. You got to be obsessed with it. It take years, Joe. It take years to get at it, especially if it's not your respective craft.

52:49Chad Johnson:But, hey, hey. Go ahead, Joe. Them dudes, hey, my homies be at the golf course, bro. Eight hours. Okay, I'll choke. Out of the day. You got to. Eight hours, bro.

52:59Shannon Sharpe:You got to. And it takes guys, if you look at the guys that are good, it got guys that don't have this. You look at the guy, the quarterbacks. Quarterbacks don't develop their shoulders. You look at the basketball players. You look at the baseball players. You look at the guys that don't develop their shoulders because you got to be fluid. I'm too tight. I'm only going to be able to go back so far. You got to be able to be loose through here, man. You don't need no abs. You need a little gut.

53:34Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. It's all in the head.

53:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's what you need. But, man, this is amazing accomplishment, man, to see Kevin Durant. I bet you if you'd ask KD, you know, he's like his goal, I want to play in the NBA, blah, blah, blah. They're like, but when you retire, you're going to be in the top five score. Man, what? In the history of the game, and you see those great names that's up there, and you start from zero.

54:06Chad Johnson:Man, because when you first started playing the game, Uncle Ocho, you just want to show you belong, bro. You ain't thinking about, oh, man, I'm going to try to be a top ten score in the NBA. Right. He just want to show you belong. And then as the journey continues, you know, you start to receive all these different accolades. And you're like, hold on. Now he in reach. He finna pass MJ? Oh, man. Come on.

54:28Shannon Sharpe:It's like some things like when you just say MJ or you in a conversation with, man, you tied Wilt. Wilt? MJ? What? That's greatness. It's like if you're a quarterback and you did something, you up there with Brady, you up there with Manning. like damn okay yeah when somebody's like Mike got 11 consecutive thousand yard season he tied Jerry Rice who? Jerry

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