In short
NBA offseason talk and sports culture—Wemby/Knicks-Spurs emotions, Big 3 league preview, Pistons/Lakers trade speculation for Austin Reaves, and NBA Draft “who should go #1” debate (Darren Peterson vs AJ DeBonza). The hosts also discuss Giannis trade dynamics, injury risk in player valuation, and contract/extension strategy (Brunson as the example).
Guests/backgrounds
No named guests appear in the transcript; it’s a solo host + Joe-style co-host format with sports commentary.
Key claims
- Josh Hart said the Knicks knew the Spurs were “cooked” after Wemby showed emotion in a win over OKC.
- The Big 3 is more physical than the NBA (half-court, fewer calls), with games to 50.
- Pistons could pursue Austin Reaves if the Lakers don’t contend.
- Draft experts (Mark Stein cited) suggest Wizards might take Darren Peterson over AJ DeBonza at #1.
- Giannis will be traded, but teams hesitate due to injury history and extension demands; injury-prone players are like “flood-damaged cars” (paying full price is wrong).
Notable examples
Michael Jordan/Father’s Day emotion; Jordan/Kobe/Sports emotional reactions; worst draft mistakes list (Blazers passing MJ for Sam Bowie; Oden over Durant; Pistons passing on Bosh/Wade for Darko).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJosh Hart's Insight on Spurs
3:00 to 4:04
Discussion on Josh Hart's comments regarding the Spurs and Wimby's emotions.
“Josh Hart said tonight that the Knicks knew the Spurs were food after seeing Wimby cry when they beat OKC.”
Emotions in Basketball Success
4:04 to 6:00
Exploring how players express emotions during pivotal moments in games.
“Like I heard him say in many press conferences, like, he didn't really, he can't explain it.”
Michael Jordan's Championship Emotions
6:00 to 7:40
Discussion on Michael Jordan's emotional reactions to winning championships.
“I mean, I mean, when you look at it, Jordan won a championship on Father's Day.”
The Unpredictability of Life and Death
7:40 to 9:45
Conversations about life, death, and how they impact athletes and their families.
“And probably whoever did this, you know, I'm not sure they even knew who it was.”
The Journey of Greatness
9:45 to 11:03
Insights into the dedication and loneliness experienced by sports greats.
“And, you know, he told a story that – what did he say about basketball?”
The Role of Hard Work in Success
11:03 to 13:14
The relationship between hard work and the uncertainty of achieving success.
“And unless, and who can join, what's the female equivalent of Jordan?”
Reflections on Effort and Guarantee
13:14 to 14:01
Discussion on the effort put into sports without guarantees of success.
“You see, I read a quote a couple of days ago, guys.”
The Journey of Hard Work and Faith
14:01 to 16:40
Explore the dedication and hope athletes invest in their sports careers.
“Think about all the work that you put in with no guarantee.”
The Big 3 Basketball League Preview
16:41 to 19:26
Get insights on the upcoming Big 3 season and team expectations.
“You see, man says, show me, I'll trust you.”
Pistons Eyeing Austin Reeves
19:27 to 22:08
Discuss the potential fit of Austin Reeves with the Detroit Pistons.
“So it's starting to spread out a little bit, and I think they cut the teams down too, where it used to be like 14, 15 teams.”
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Giannis Trade Rumors and Team Dynamics
22:09 to 24:56
Analyze the implications of Giannis's trade rumors and team interests.
“as great as Detroit was this year, they struggled in the postseason due to a lack of scoring and the way AR can see.”
Giannis Trade Rumors and Team Dynamics
25:58 to 27:32
Analyze the implications of Giannis's trade rumors and team interests.
“Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea or OSA in adults with obesity?”
Giannis Trade Rumors and Team Dynamics
27:35 to 28:00
Analyze the implications of Giannis's trade rumors and team interests.
“At Rasmussen University, we find ways to remove barriers, not build them, like a new laptop if you're eligible, and enroll in select online or on-campus programs.”
Giannis and Superstar Responsibility
28:04 to 29:25
Discussing Giannis' role and accountability as a superstar.
“It's going to be very interesting to see how this thing plays out.”
Injuries and Trade Value
29:27 to 32:44
Exploring the impact of injuries on players like Giannis and Ja Morant.
“So I think we all know Giannis is going to get traded.”
Future of NBA Teams and Players
32:45 to 35:38
Discussing the upcoming NBA draft and potential team shifts.
“I mean, things going to start this draft is Tuesday.”
Nostalgic Haircuts and Fast Food
35:39 to 42:00
Sharing nostalgic stories about haircuts and fast food experiences.
“Yeah, I don't think you'll ever see LeBron, D.”
Buffet Stories and Nostalgia
42:00 to 49:56
The hosts share humorous and nostalgic stories about buffets and their experiences with food growing up.
“Boy, they know they have to see us coming.”
NBA Draft Predictions
49:56 to 52:48
The discussion shifts to potential draft picks, with debate over whether Darren Peterson or A.J. DeBonza should be the top choice.
“legitimately believe Wizards could take Darren Peterson over A.J.”
NBA Draft Predictions
53:32 to 55:06
The discussion shifts to potential draft picks, with debate over whether Darren Peterson or A.J. DeBonza should be the top choice.
“severe obstructive sleep apnea or OSA in adults with obesity?”
Listener Q&A and Relationship Advice
55:08 to 56:00
The hosts answer listener questions, discussing relationships and handling jealousy.
“When it comes to advancing your education, you have more options than you think.”
Shout Out and Product Recommendation
56:00 to 56:30
The hosts express gratitude and recommend trying a specific cognac.
“I appreciate the support, and hopefully you like it.”
Navigating Co-Parenting Challenges
56:31 to 1:00:48
Discussion about dealing with bitterness in co-parenting and the emotional struggles involved.
“And I understand some of you, you know, you might have a very attractive mama and she's looking good and she's like, we can be together.”
Effects of Undefeated Records in Sports
1:00:49 to 1:03:29
Exploration of how the desire to remain undefeated affects athletes in boxing and basketball.
“And so when it's gone through a similar situation, it's tough.”
The State of Boxing and Fighter Dynamics
1:03:30 to 1:10:00
Analysis of the current boxing landscape and why fighters are less willing to face each other.
“Because everybody's like, well, I got the IBF belt and my belt is more valuable than WBO and the WBA and the Ring Magazine.”
Discussion on NBA Players and Contracts
1:10:00 to 1:11:44
Insights into player contracts, health impacts, and team dynamics.
“Is he up or does he have one year left, Aaron Gordon?”
The Big Three Reunion Plans
1:11:44 to 1:12:48
Exciting plans for a reunion among the Big Three and their upcoming games.
“Who's the greater coach, Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich?”
Coaching Greats: Phil Jackson vs. Greg Popovich
1:12:48 to 1:14:12
A debate on the legacies of two of the greatest NBA coaches.
“Phil had arguably, hell, he had the best damn group.”
Trauma and Understanding Others
1:14:12 to 1:16:49
Discussing the importance of empathy and understanding personal trauma.
“And unbeknownst to you, you're doing a lot of the same thing that you had done to you.”
Buffet Talk and Personal Preferences
1:16:49 to 1:18:14
Light-hearted conversation about buffets and food preferences.
“I ain't know Golden Corral was a buffet.”
Transcript
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3:01Shannon Sharpe:Josh Hart said tonight that the Knicks knew the Spurs were food after seeing Wimby cry when they beat OKC. Wow. You can't show that kind of emotion. I think a few other basketball players say the job is not done. The job is not over. The task at hand, the ultimate goal is to win a championship. you know that Larry O 'Brien so to be crying because you're going to the final
3:23Chad Johnson:I don't know if it was crying because they were going to the final I think he was crying because they beat OKC knowing how tough and challenging it was knowing that they were the champions from last year I think that's why he was and they got the MVP on the roster there you go yeah and Wimby probably feels slighted that he didn't win MVP yeah he said he used that as motivation Yeah, so those emotions came out. Yeah. I understand, but... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, but at 22, Ocho, I mean, it's tough, bro. I mean, it's probably other cats who could have held them emotions in, but I just felt like they kind of took over.
4:06Chad Johnson:Like I heard him say in many press conferences, like, he didn't really, he can't explain it. You know what I mean? Like, it's just something he dreamed of. You know what I mean? And I think that's the great part about sports, bro, because we all grew up, whether it's y 'all catching touchdowns, whether it's me counting the shot clock down, making the game, winning shot. And then for you to actually be in that situation and actually come through, yeah, I think it's very emotional. I think it's very emotional. I got it.
4:38Shannon Sharpe:And then he 22. He don't know. I'm sure he understood that like wow because uh I mean somebody some people had them in the play-in tournament some people had them you know fifth or sixth seed and here they are the number two seed and they took down the reigning defending champ with the reigning uh defending uh uh in uh MVP on the roster they did that uh I I don't hold nobody's emotions against them because everybody does it differently and I think the thing is that when you try to put obviously how you do certain things you know we we all know how you do certain things how you talk about your teammates and how you carry on that's very very important but everybody deals with success differently differently yeah and some people you know like hey like you know some people you know cry like jordan yeah when jordan won and then he realized like you know what man and maybe it was because his father wasn't there to see him celebrate.
5:37Chad Johnson:And you see Kobe. Kobe got the trophy in his hand and he's just looking at it. And that was around the time that he and his mom had stopped speaking. And all the things, all the thoughts that's going through his mind. Some people are like, man, please, this is the time of my life. I can't worry about who's not here. Right.
5:59Shannon Sharpe:Everybody handles a situation differently.
6:01Chad Johnson:Yeah. I mean, I mean, when you look at it, Jordan won a championship on Father's Day. You know what I mean? I think that's why it was so emotional for him. You just seen him break down bawling, crying. Hell, I probably would have been the same way. I ain't gonna lie to you. If I was that close to my pops, bro, and he got murdered, man, I've been the same. We won on Father's Day? Come on, bro. I mean,
6:27Shannon Sharpe:death is really never easy. That's the thing that, I mean, you have to really respect and love about death if there's anything because it doesn't discriminate. Nope. It take young, it'll take old. It'll take rich, it'll take poor. It does not discriminate. Just know when you have that appointment, you can't reschedule it. And death, you know, there's no way to prepare for it. Well, how do you prepare for it? We all know we're going to die. It doesn't make it any easier when it actually happens to your loved ones that you left behind. but it's the fashion in which Jordan father succumbed.
7:04Chad Johnson:So sudden. Man, 85, 90 years old, man, he had a great life. Man, you can remember, but tragically, how somebody senselessly took that man's life and you think I'm Michael Jordan, I'm supposed to be able to insulate stuff like that? I should be able to insulate my family from that foolishness. There are some things I can't control cancer. I can't control kidney disease, liver disease, things like that. And there are certain things I don't care. They ain't get enough money. But there are certain things I feel like my money, my fame, I should be able to insulate it from that. Don't know. And probably whoever did this, you know, I'm not sure they even knew who it was.
7:46Chad Johnson:Right. Until probably they went to his wallet and took it. And they probably still didn't put two and two together. It was sad. And I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. Because I didn't really know anybody famous that father or mother had gotten like this. So what are we looking at? What? Remember it came on the news, father of Michael Jordan killed. What? First thing, what'd you think? A traffic accident. Not murdered.
8:19Shannon Sharpe:Man.
8:22Shannon Sharpe:Man. And because he looked just like his dad. and how close they were. Think about it. Every time Jordan won something, he was right there. Now, all of a sudden, I win. Three-peat. Finish off a three-peat. Hadn't been done 60-67 Celtics. Yeah.
8:45Chad Johnson:Hey, man. I think in certain situations, even when you look at Michael Jordan at 6 '6", if you look at his parents, Uncle Ocho, hell, you probably could even go through his whole family tree. He probably ain't got nobody over six foot. 6 '2", because, you know what I mean? So I feel like, you know, in situations like that, man, it's almost destined, bro, because the athleticism that his brother Larry had and MJ had, like his brother probably was more athletic than him, but he was just a lot smaller. Yep. You know what I mean? Versus MJ getting 6 '6", now he got this 45, I think they said even 50-inch vertical.
9:21Chad Johnson:I mean, man, come on, bro. And his desire to work ethic. And when you done took as many ass whoopings as he took from his brother coming up, kind of like, oh, you take all them ass whoopings, you be ready to dish some of them out when you get them. Hey, let me get somebody that's my size. I can whip them. Yeah. And, you know, he told a story that – what did he say about basketball?
9:59Shannon Sharpe:The reason why he loved basketball so much is because it's loyal, because he knows what he gives to it and it'll give it back to him. Yeah. I just love to hear greats. Serena and Venus and Mike and Tom Brady. I love them because, you know, Ocho, weird I say how great this is and it's lonely and everything. They don't want to hear from us. But we talk about the upper echelon. This is like the wealthy. Once you get to pass that 50 billion, there's only a certain level of people. Well, when you get to that Jordan and Serena and Jordan level, Tom Brady, Tiger Woods, there's only a certain level of people that have ever reached that crescendo.
10:43Shannon Sharpe:and to hear them talk about what it takes and the selfishness that is involved, then you get an appreciation. Yes. Just a little bit of success that I had. I knew what it took. What nearly as great as those that never professed to be, but I knew in order, it is lonely and it is very mundane. Yep. And unless, and who can join, what's the female equivalent of Jordan? marrying someone that would actually know what he's going through. Hey. Serena, if she's 60 and she's a 23-time Grand Slam champ, she would know. That's why movie stars normally marry other movie stars because they know what it's like to live that life.
11:30They know what it's like to jump in and out of character.
11:33Chad Johnson:Yeah. You see? Hey. And they the one percenters are the one percenters. Yes. They're the zero point. Whatever that point is, like 99.9, they're that zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, like 55, zero, one. That's where they are. What was that? You know what's funny? The numbers you just said, you know, there's another level above them too. Yeah. What's another level above them, Ojo? Yeah. What, the elites? God. I didn't know. when you talk when you talk Jordan and Serena and Tiger Woods God you start looking at Steffi Graffs and things like that man I mean yeah it's crazy I mean think about I mean the work that and everybody hear about Jordan's work ethic
12:32Shannon Sharpe:how legendary it was you hear about Kobe you hear about Serena and all the balls that they hit and their dad teaching them. He watching BCR tapes and teaching them how to swing and how to hit the backhand. And you hear about all the work ethic and you hear about LeBron getting to the gym five hours early and getting up a workout in and getting shots up. And to do that, and you think about this, you do all of that with no guarantee you ever going to reach the level that you think you are. You do it on a hope.
13:08Shannon Sharpe:that this is going to pay off. And I tell people all the time, hard work doesn't guarantee you anything, but without it, you got no chance. At all. Hmm. You see, I read a quote a couple of days ago, guys. They said,
13:28two people that are smart can never fall in love.
13:32Shannon Sharpe:One of them has to be an idiot to fall in love. Hmm. See the fall in love. See, The fall in love with a sport or the fall in love with something that you cannot control. Right.
13:48Damn. Hold on. I'm done. That's it. That's it. That's it. Thank you for joining us tonight for another episode. Hey, hold on. Hey, that's a good one. Hold on. Let me write that down. You got to be. Because think about it, Joe. Think about all the work that you put in with no guarantee. I go to work every day. What am I guaranteed? I'm going to get a salary at the end of the work week. You worked from the time you was 9, 10 years of age. Titus, get out. As a matter of fact, get out. Hey, hey. Out. You worked from the time you was 9 or 10 years old, so you worked 12 years with no pay. Basketball didn't pay you a dime.
14:33Ocho, you worked from the time you was 10, 11 years old, and football never paid you a dime. You worked on a hope that everything that I put in this would pay off one day. Yes. There are many a people that put just as much time, just as much effort in it, and it didn't pay off. Hold on. You got to bring me back to that quote.
14:57Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, basically. Hey, Ocho. Too smart people can't fall in love, Ocho. If you fall in love, one of them has to be an idiot. You've got to be an idiot to fall in love. Too small people can't fall in love. The moral of the story is we all some damn idiots, okay? Yes! Yes! Yes! To fall in love with... And Jordan said it. Go back and look at some of his quotes. He said, I fell in love with this because it's the only thing I know would love me back.
15:36Shannon Sharpe:I gotta use that word you do it's more than an obsession it's more than a commitment it's a singular focus
15:51because people say well plan A and plan B what's your plan B well if plan B was going with so probably it would be plan A ain't got no plan B I got a player in A
16:03Chad Johnson:that's a lot of that's a lot of cash out here too yeah to fall in love someone has to be an idiot to fall in love with something
16:13Shannon Sharpe:two smart people can't fall in love Ocho one of them has to be an idiot so that's that's how it works that is that's that's that's the only way it can work Mm. Faith.
16:37Shannon Sharpe:That's a good one. The Bible teaches us that you're supposed to have faith. Faith is the unknown, but believe it. You see, man says, show me, I'll trust you. God say, trust me, I'll show you. You see the difference? Yeah. What man says, oh, I would trust, okay. blindly trust. Uh-uh. You put your faith in me.
17:13I'm still stuck on that first one. I ain't heard that one before. I knew you was going to love that one. I like that one.
17:29Shannon Sharpe:Josh, oh man. All right, Wemby. You let them see your weakness. You got to button up. The new season of the Big Three kicks off tomorrow. Game one, you got the Detroit Amps versus the DMV Trilogy. Game two, you got the LA Riots versus the Miami, the 305s. Game three, you got the Houston. What are they called? The Air Hands? The Rig Hands. So I guess they off the Gulf. Yeah, they're working with Rick. Okay. And then you got the Chicago Triplets. In game four, you got the Dallas Power versus the Boston Ball Halls.
18:03Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, it's going to be fun this year. You know, great parity throughout the league. Obviously, 305 coming off of winning the title. You know, having Lance Stevenson and Michael Beasley on the team, bro. I'm not going to lie to y 'all. Those two guys alone, they just a handful. You know what I mean? So you got to have, not only do you got to have some dogs, but you got to have some guys who can put that ball in the hole, man. Because in the big three, we don't have a clock. We're not playing against no damn clock. It's the first one to 50. You know what I mean? So you got to be able to get a bucket.
18:41Chad Johnson:And the game gets hard when you get 40 points. When you get 40 points, okay, Ocho, everybody lock in for every bucket. Hey, because I'm going to tell you something. The big three is far way more physical than the NBA. bro. Wait, they let a lot. Because you play at half court, yo. Oh man, they let you get away with so much. Like, it's fouls that don't get called and you just have to play through it. And I respect it all because as you have great defenders, you can't call everything, bro. This three on three. You know what I mean? It ain't much help. So at some point, if you got guys who causes mismatches, you have to give up something.
19:21Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? Whether it's jump shots, whether it's mid-ranges, you don't want to give up layups, but I think the league is getting better, bro. They've extended the games. I think it's like 14, 15 games now. It used to be only like 10 games. You know what I mean? So it's starting to spread out a little bit, and I think they cut the teams down too, where it used to be like 14, 15 teams. I think it's only like eight.
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19:52Shannon Sharpe:Is it eight now? because they got – right now it says eight. Is everybody playing tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:00Chad Johnson:They took it down to eight. So when you take it down to eight, obviously you put a lot of talent on one team. So that's why I say the parity is so good. So I think it's going to be fun. I can't wait to watch, obviously, the team that I was on, the Detroit Amps. I'm going to be honest with y 'all. Even last year I felt we had the better team, but we were hampered by injuries, obviously. and this year I felt we had an even better team but unfortunately I can't play so you know hopefully those guys hey hey hey what a first game LA what's the first game in you you going it you going to any game yeah yeah I think the second week is in Detroit I'm gonna try to make it out to Detroit uh actually got two weeks in Detroit uh but I'm gonna try to make a few of them I'm I might even come out there when they come to Miami, Ocho.
20:52Okay, I'm going with you.
20:53Chad Johnson:I bet I'm going to have to pull up out there for sure. L.A. versus Miami. Go ahead. I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we good.
21:02Shannon Sharpe:We good. We good. Yeah. Okay. Okay. L.A. versus Miami. Michael Beasley versus Dwight Howard. Round two. Tune in tomorrow, June 20th, 1230 p.m. Pacific time on CBS and BET.
21:15Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, man. I ain't going to lie, boy. It hurt me that I can't play. I enjoy playing on that stage, Uncle Ocho, that CBS, that platform, that Cube and Clyde Drexler and Cube partner Jeff has, you know, granted us older guys who still love to play the game, still in great shape. So to watch it, I ain't going to lie, it's going to hurt to watch, but I'm going to be tuned in.
21:40Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we know you got to get out of here, so go ahead and get to your appointment, and we'll catch you on Sunday. Hey, I love y 'all boys, man. Y 'all enjoy, man. I'm going to see y 'all tomorrow, right? Yep. No, Sunday. Okay, okay, okay. All right, brother. All right, love. Peace. Joe, according to Athletic Sam Amick, the Pistons are expected to be a suitor for the Lakers guard, Austin Reeves. Joe, do you like Austin Reeves in Detroit with Cade if the Lakers don't make a game?
22:09Chad Johnson:Hey, that's nice. Hey, think about this. as great as Detroit was this year, they struggled in the postseason due to a lack of scoring and the way AR can see. Because if what you call them didn't get it, they didn't get it. If Kade didn't get it. Yeah, yeah. So it's hard because he's got to be special every night just for y 'all to even be in damn games. So you go get a guy. I like AR, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't mind seeing AR next to Kade. I wouldn't mind seeing Kyrie Irving next to Kade. hell, I wouldn't mind if Houston got off of Kevin Durant and he went over there. It's the plethora. There are guys who I think could fit next to K.
22:50Chad Johnson:Obviously, AR is probably best suited because he's a free agent. I think, man, I think it'll be a match made happen because they're a great defensive team, so you can high AR to some degree. You know what I mean?
23:03Shannon Sharpe:Yes, yes. You got Thompson. K can play defense. They got some guys that can play. The question is, Cade, A.R., do you keep Tobias? Obviously, you're keeping Thompson. But the Thompson twins, bro, y 'all need to get in the gym and just work on shooting the basketball. Especially Asour. That's what they're saying.
23:25Chad Johnson:They got to. Well, nowadays, playing in the league, you got to be able to score that ball. You got to be able to shoot at least hell, because if you can't shoot, then you're a liability out there.
23:39Shannon Sharpe:More trade talk, Joe. More intel from Sam Amick. He said the Celtics have an interest in Trey Murphy III if they can't land Giannis. Rival execs believe the Bucs are underwhelmed by offers for Giannis. Grizzlies are hopeful that John Morant will be some team's plan B after Giannis is moved. Heat have been known to have serious interest. Kawhi Leonard is also the Heat's plan B, but no one around the league knows if he's available. Joe, it's hard. I know you got to trade Giannis. I know that. Every other team, 29 other teams know Milwaukee's got to get off Giannis. They also know he's not signing an extension.
24:24Shannon Sharpe:With that being said, there are other teams that say we might want him, but he wouldn't sign an extension with us, and we'd be foolish to give you draft compensation and only have him as a rental. So there's probably, what, three or four teams that Giannis, maybe the Celtics, probably the Heat, maybe the Warriors.
24:44Chad Johnson:I only see those first two teams, the Heat and the Celtics, because if I'm Giannis, honestly, I really don't want to go messing around in that Western Conference, man. Say, hey, you stay in the East, you team, if you can get to Boston, if you can get to Miami, you can basically be a top three team in the Eastern Conference and potentially come out. You know, because if he can stay healthy, obviously we know how that calf is. But if he can stay healthy and be putting up them gaudy numbers that he's been putting up the past summer, a year, man, please, whatever team he go to, they're going to be favored in the East.
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28:04Shannon Sharpe:It's going to be very interesting to see how this thing plays out. The problem is that everybody's been talking about this Giannis thing for about two years, Joe. So it wasn't like a look that it just happened. Everybody's been talking about this. Giannis bears some culpability because, you know, the coach that he got, Bud got gone, J. Kidd got gone, Adrian Griffey got gone, Holiday got gone. There are guys that obviously Middleton started to get injured a little bit more, so he wasn't as reliable as he needed to be. But he has to bear some culpability in this. And I think the thing is that he wants all the perks that comes along with being a superstar, but none of the blame as far as responsibility that comes along with being a superstar.
28:52Shannon Sharpe:Because he saw the backlash that LeBron gets. He saw the backlash that KD gets. He don't want that. At the end of the day, Giannis really wants to be like, that's why he pushes, well, it's going to be my wife's decision. It's going to be my agent's decision. It's going to be everybody's decision except the guy that's going to have to play in the new location.
29:10Chad Johnson:Hello, the one who got to deal with it. It's your decision. Hey, I thought the Bucs done everything right for Giannis. Hell, they had both his brothers on the damn team, huh? What more you want? You know, and neither one of them can play dead in the West.
29:31So I think we all know Giannis is going to get traded.
29:35Chad Johnson:But like you said, man, ain't no team willing to give up them to have their roster for him. They ain't doing that because they know you got to get up off of him.
29:43Shannon Sharpe:And you got to get up off of him. And what have we seen over the last couple of years? The injuries are starting to come with greater regularity. And they're starting to keep him out for extended periods of time. That's fact. That in conjecture, that's not innuendo. That's not speculation. It's documented.
29:59Chad Johnson:He ain't getting no younger. He ain't getting no younger. But it's a plethora of guys out there. I want to see where Ja is going to go. I want to see Ja get back to being Ja. You know, he got some work he got to do. Hopefully he been in the lab, Unc, because that three-point percentage, if you shoot 20 % or 15 % from the three. Not from the three. I know, because that shit meat and potatoes. You know, from the point guard spotting, And if you can't shoot, bro, I'm going under every pick, and I'm going to make you every last one of them. Because I know I'm keeping your ass out the paint. And if you look at it, Joe, look at his paint points.
30:37They've come down every year. Now, if he can't get to the paint, he can't shoot the three. It ain't like he got the midi. He lives in the paint. He does, bro. He's Derrick Rose 2.0. Yep. And in order for him to expand that game,
30:56Chad Johnson:Well, you know what he needs to be done. Yeah, but what the thing is, it's kind of carbon copy with Giannis. Hell, he been hurt. He been hurt the majority of the time. You know what I mean? And it just, it hurts your value, bro. When teams take a look, they like, damn, the past two, three years, you know, hell, I don't even know if he done played 60 games. You know what I mean? So it's some challenges that come with, you know, guys like Ja and Giannis. But, man, look, that's a risk and that's a chance that I'll be willing to take.
31:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, the thing is, though, Joe, I mean, Giannis is going to want a long-term extension, Joe. He's going to want four years at probably 60 a year. You're going to have to pay him. What is the most Giannis can sign for? I mean, theoretically, he could wait until January. I mean, wait until the all-star to trade thing and then sign the extension, but I don't know if anybody's willing to chance that.
32:00Chad Johnson:If he gets traded, he's going to want a contract immediately. Yeah, he ain't going to be willing to risk that.
32:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he's eligible for Forrest to 275 with the Bucs. That ain't happening because I don't see the Bucs doing a signing trade. I don't see them appeasing them in that aspect.
32:19Chad Johnson:Nah, you going over there where you wanted to go? Yeah, they ain't going to do that. They ain't going to do that because, hell, you're going to have to give up half your team if you do a sign and trade like that. If you're a team that's getting into it. But we know he's going to go somewhere, man. I don't know where, but I'm looking forward to this draft. I'm looking forward to what's going to happen during the draft, after the draft, free agency. You know, I want to see if the Lakers going to be able to bring Brian back. Yeah. We're going to find out here something. I mean, things going to start this draft is Tuesday.
32:54Things going to start percolating here shortly after that, Joe. Or before that. Okay.
33:02Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's some top guys, man. Because I think we know Giannis is going to be gone. I'm almost for sure. Yeah, for sure. We bet you not Giannis was going to be gone. And Ja got to be right next to him. You got to get him out of Memphis, bro. Got to get him out of there. No, guys, we don't bring up DeVal. It's just like there's a reason why all of a sudden there came with Carfax on cars. People done been in a damn demolition derby, and they want you to pay full price for the damn car, and that thing done been in a demolition derby. That's why they got Carfax. The problem is that with an NBA player, I get a chance to see him, that he missed 30 games.
33:40He missed 40 games. He missed half a season. He missed an entire season. What do you mean bring up injuries? That's a part of it. Yep, it is. You paying full price. Tell me the situation. A house that got flood damage, you not paying full price for it. A car that's been in an accident, you're not paying full price for it. Come on, Chad. Ain't no bringing up no injuries. It's facts.
34:03Chad Johnson:Yeah. Injury prone guys, bro. Yes, it's facts. Look at Ja the last three years. Has Ja been injured? Yes or no? It's a simple question. Yes or no? The last three years, have Giannis missed time with injury? It's a simple yes or no. And when you look at it, you got to look around our league, bro. A lot of the top guys in the NBA, they've been getting hurt. And it's been catastrophic. It's been catastrophic, yeah. because the game is played at a much faster pace than it's probably ever been played at.
34:44Shannon Sharpe:I believe it's getting back to where it was in the 80s, Joe. And I know you were just a kid, but Joe, games were 158, 163, 170 to 150, 145, 140. It was at that pace for a period of time. And then the NBA, for whatever reason, like, well, we don't like these type of games. And then they went totally the other way. Now you had 78, 78, 75, 72, 69 ball game. And they're like, man, this stinks. And they kind of went. And now they're just like, you see the pace routinely. You're in the 120.
35:18Chad Johnson:Easy. Easy. That's light. Yeah. So there's going to be some major moves made, bro, in the next few days.
35:30Shannon Sharpe:I think teams realize they have to make these moves. I think the thing is, I think we're kind of done with the super teams, Joe.
35:37Chad Johnson:What you mean? Like three?
35:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I don't think you'll ever see LeBron, D. Wade. I don't think you're ever going to see KD and Steph in a situation like that. I don't think you're going to see that anymore. But I do think the thing is, though, I think these owners are going to try to put pressure on some of these guys to do what Brunson did, and I don't think these players are going to do it.
35:58Chad Johnson:No, everybody ain't. I don't see players taking$113 million haircut. I might take a$2,$3 million haircut a year, so I might take a$20 million haircut. 113, Joe? No, ain't nobody doing that. Bro, I say, bro, give me a skin fade, not a Kojak. You'll cut all my damn hair off. Hey. And playing in New York, too? Yeah. Ain't nobody doing that, bro. Kudos to Brunson for that. But a lot of these cats coming up, dang, man, listen. And if you don't draft well, it's going to be hard to compete, man, because like you say, it's going to be hard to get these free agents, guys to lead these teams knowing that they can get that extra year already on the team that they own.
36:43Chad Johnson:It's going to be some challenges that will come with this. Yeah. Man, I go to the barbershop and say, hey, give me that number five. Oh, Joe, you know what I'm saying? You know, you go to the barbershop, they got like 30 pictures up there. Yeah. Let me get that number five. Hey, that Joe will spin you around and you look in the mirror like, what the hell is this? You done cut my damn hair off. Bang. Bang. Bang. Like my granddaddy went to the barbershop. He done fell asleep up there in the barbershop and bust that job. Oh, man. Man, who in the hell told you to cut my... Yeah. Well, I remember them days.
37:24Chad Johnson:Back then, haircut went by about$5, man.
37:28Shannon Sharpe:Yo, I remember haircut was a dollar. Dollar fee. My grandpa used to always take us to a barbershop. There was a guy named Bobby Lee Wilkins who used to cut our hair, but the guy that cut our hair the most was a pastor that came down. He'd come down late Friday, but normally Saturday, and Reverend Green, he would cut our hair, me and my brother,$3. Papa would give Spanky the money, and he would go do what he got to do. Because normally, because you know back then, hey, I'm next, And so you just sit outside and then the barbers would get you. And then people started lying. Well, I was here first and then I was here.
38:07And then you started having to take a ticket. And then they started taking appointments. So I remember like$1.50 was a haircut. And then when I got to college, you know, your teammates cut your hair then. Hey,$1,$2 haircut. Hey, there wasn't no professional, but hey. You ain't lying.
38:26Chad Johnson:I had a teammate, my partner. He used to cut our hair in college. We used to pay him about$20 a cut. Yeah. $20? We used to pay$20 a cut, huh? Oh, no, Joe. Man, hey, man, we paid$2,$3,$4. Y 'all getting over. That man ain't giving you nothing but a bowl, ain't he? Oh, no, no, no. Who come out here? Mud. Dude named Wesley McGriff.
38:51Shannon Sharpe:We call him Mud.
38:56Shannon Sharpe:Roughhouse. Roughhouse still a barber to this day. and Squirrel, the other receiver. And Coop, we had a little guy named Coop. Yeah. Nah, I don't remember. In college, I ain't never paid more than like$3,$4.
39:10Chad Johnson:Man, please. Yeah, they were starting to go up by then, man.
39:18But you got to realize, Joe, that was$8. How much was$3 in 1986 to 1989? That was probably about$15,$20. in today's yeah no haircut
39:33Shannon Sharpe:and then a dude named Sammy Murphy my grandfather started taking us to the dude that cut his mustache off he started taking us to class to get a haircut Sammy Murphy used to get out here 1986-89 yeah $3 worth$8 okay it was$3 worth$8 no I ain't pay that But I'm talking about, man, there wasn't nobody paying no, man, I wish I might pay$10 for a damn haircut from somebody that ain't got no license. Man, you better take this$3 and get out of my damn place.
40:07Chad Johnson:Yeah, hey, hey, hey. But my man's good cut, though. He used to use a blade every day and back then. Yeah.
40:15Shannon Sharpe:Hey, matter of fact, I say, bro, hey, I go, hey, because Whoppers back then, Joe, you get to have a special on Whoppers some days that you get a Whopper for 99 cents. Hey, bro, I get you a Whopper and a prize and soda.
40:28Chad Johnson:You can go to Wendy's and get that 99 cent double stack, baby. Hey, hey. Yeah. I was in there. Hey, I had a little hookup at Wendy's. I go to there, give me a couple of them 99 stack double stacks with some nuggets. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
40:43Shannon Sharpe:Hey, because I had to hook up at McDonald's. We could walk to Burger King because Burger King was at the end of the campus. So we could walk down there. Whopper. you know, a Whopper with cheese was 99 cents. But I had to hook up at McDonald's. Send Hillary. Thank you. I go get two Big Macs, a 20-piece nugget, super-sized fries, super-sized drink, two apple pies.
41:08Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, boy. You... Hey, look.
41:11Shannon Sharpe:Every Friday. I ain't miss a Friday. And then I got in good with her manager, and her manager was looking up for me.
41:20Chad Johnson:Hey, next dough to the Wendy's was a Sonic. And I had to hook up at Sonic. Oh, so we had to go in there and get that big grape slush. Yeah, yeah. See, we had the slush at Circle K. Oh, okay. Y 'all got Circle K in the South? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Titus, back up.
41:41Come here to start some bulljive. Yeah. Oh, but those were the times. And then, you know, we get that work-study money. Hey, me and the guys, we go to Ryan's. Hey, all you can eat buffet, them wings, that mac and cheese, and that bread with that honey butter.
42:00Chad Johnson:Cutter. Boy, they know they have to see us coming. Hey, you leave a bite of them fat food. What? Because in spring, we have spring balls.
42:12Shannon Sharpe:So every Saturday, that's what we would do. Take a shower. Hey, we go to the ride. There'd be about 10, 15 of us.
42:20Chad Johnson:I'm talking about AA. If you want to lay down, come on. Come on. Because I know you're going to get booed out. Come on.
42:35Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, the dessert at them buffet boy used to be off the chain in it, man. Oh, yeah, man. They got chocolate chip. They got... I'm not a brownies guy, though, Joe. I'm not a brownies guy. But you know, they got that soft serve ice cream. Chocolate, strawberry, vanilla. Yeah, yeah, they got that. And then they had that swirl. You go crazy.
43:00Badjo.
43:01Chad Johnson:I know exactly what you're talking about. Badjo. I swear I know what you're talking about. Hey, do they still have rhymes? Anybody know if they still have rhymes available somewhere? I need to go to rhymes. Man, we had a, I think it used to be called Bonanza when I was. Okay, yeah, that was a TV show. You remember Bonanza used to come on? With Hoss Cartwright, Joe Cartwright, Big Ben Cartwright? I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
43:25Shannon Sharpe:There was a western called Bonanza. And the ranch was called the Ponderosa. Oh, okay. Big Ben was the dad. Hoss, Little Joe. Little Joe was Michael London, who also starred in Little House on the Prairie. He was the dad in Little House on the Prairie. There ain't no Ramone Rhyans. damn
43:51Chad Johnson:yeah I think I think they got I still think they got country buffet what about country buffet wait me and my mama we hit up we hit that we hit that buffet up boy like it was nothing man Joe I didn't even know what a buffet was I didn't know what a buffet was until my like my freshman year
44:11Shannon Sharpe:my freshman sophomore year in high school coach told us say hey if y 'all run good down here we in Savannah say if y 'all run good I'm going to take y 'all to a buffet. I'm like, man, what's a buffet? Ain't nobody known. Man, I don't know. He said he's going to take us out to eat, so good. Man, we went down there and tore it up, Joe. We coming to first place. We going to eat. We get first place. So we go to this place. Coach Hall, he paid. And we go. I see all this food. I see chicken. I see pork chop, green beans, mac and cheese, rice, rolls. I see all this stuff. so I'm just looking around I said man what we do somebody said man I think you just go around and you can get whatever you want I said huh so we can get whatever we want they're like yeah I think that's what a buffet is I think you just get whatever you want lady walked by I said ma 'am I was like she said no it's help yourself you get whatever
45:12Chad Johnson:oh you cut up now you know you can't cut up And we ain't never been to no Buff, baby, either. What? In the first place. So, Joe, that fried chicken. So, we got on our track suits. I got fried chicken. I put fried chicken in my pocket.
45:34Hey, I'm wrapping cookies up in paper towels and tissue and putting them in my pocket. So, Coach Hall see us. He don't say nothing. We done ate a belly full. I'm stuffed, Joe. I'm talking about I'm stuffed. I'm stuffed to them. I said, Lord, have mercy. We get on the bus. Coach Hall get on the mic. Hey, suckers, it's all you can eat, not all you can eat at takeout.
46:04Man, I saw that chicken up there. I saw all that food up there. I said, ma 'am, I'm taking some of this stuff on to my grandma and sister. Man, y 'all must be on y 'all mind. Think I ain't finna take nothing up out of here?
46:14Chad Johnson:Ain't nothing like that buffet, boy. I'm talking about you eat till your stomach hurt. You do. You eat till your stomach hurt. Yeah. Yeah. And you like, hey, my girl, we always say, boy, your eyes are in your stomach. And it is. You absolutely right, Grady. I will eat. I will eat. I make myself sick. Yeah. I make myself sick. I ain't never seen that much food before. unless it's at a church. You don't fix your own plate. The old ladies fix your plate in the church and they ain't finna give you all that stuff. You might get a wing and a short thigh. You might get two pieces of chicken. You get some black-eyed peas, some mac and cheese, some greens, and a slice of bread and some cornbread if they made it.
47:00That's it. Man, I see all them butter rolls up there, all that stuff. That's it, man.
47:04Chad Johnson:Hey, by the time you get the dessert, you're already full, but you're full. I'm already stuffed. I'm just eating dessert just because I wouldn't just say I ate some dessert. I ain't got no more room to put nothing. That's how I go. That's how I go. Yeah. But I had, you know, had a teammate. They could go throw up and then come back and eat some more. Oh, man, come on. Yeah. Nah. That's too much. That's too much, man. I couldn't do that. They used to have pizza. Pizza Hut used to be the thing. On Tuesday night, they have a buffet of pizza. All you need pizza.
47:43Shannon Sharpe:Probably was like$5.99,$6.99. So, you know, they have all the pizza out there. I've always been a very simple, just give me ground beef, cheese, I'm good. You know, I'll eat pepperoni here and there now, but I ain't like all that pineapple, all that other stuff, the black olives and the green peppers, onions. I don't want that pizza.
48:01Chad Johnson:Yeah. Me, me and two of my teammates, man, Joe, I think I ate like 18 slices. Damn. 10 slices of pizza. Yeah. And then I had a homeboy named Big Willie. Big Willie probably, he was a freshman like me. Big Willie probably about 6 '4", probably about 340. Man, Big Willie ate like 22 slices. He ate spaghetti. He ate lasagna. And man didn't throw up? Man, that joker said, hey. No, man, look here. That joker losing that belt.
48:36I think I made the mistake, Joe, is that I was drinking too much. Because, you know, I like to eat, drink, eat, drink. He just ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate, ate. He ate like 10 slices before he had a little sip.
48:49Chad Johnson:Oh, no. I couldn't do that. Oh, no.
48:52Shannon Sharpe:No. No, I don't want no. I just want ground beef. Like I said, I'll eat a little pepperoni now, but I just want ground beef. I'll give me double ground beef, a hamburger, whatever they call it, and cheese. I'm good. I used to do a little bacon here and there, but I'm simple. I don't want no pineapples. I don't want no anchovies. I don't want no olives. I don't want no onions. I don't want no pineapples. I don't want none of that.
49:15Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, give me that deep dish meat lovers. Pause. I'm going to. Joe, that thing. I'm going to town. You ain't going to eat but a slice? No, no. You give me one when I ain't got nothing in my system, I can get a few slices down.
49:36See, you order deep dish and you eat a couple slices, that's that high. That's that high, homie.
49:43Chad Johnson:When that crust hitting right, it's real crunchy. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm going in. I ain't going to lie to you. Yes, sir.
49:53Shannon Sharpe:According to Mark Stein, Joe, multiple draft experts legitimately believe Wizards could take Darren Peterson over A.J. DeBonza at number one.
50:02Chad Johnson:Wow. I don't see that, Unc. I don't know where the report's coming from, but, I mean, just when you look at the makeup, hell, 6 '9", you can't teach height, okay? Now, if you got the height and you got some game to go with it, it's just hard for me to believe that the Wizards are going to pass up on A.J. DeBonza, bro. That's hard for me to believe. That's hard for me. Now, I know the kid out of Kansas, Darren Peterson. I know he's a hell of a talent. He can play. But, boy, listen, they both great talents. But if I had to pick one, I'm going AJ Warren, bro.
50:41Shannon Sharpe:I agree with you. Here are some of the 10 worst draft mistakes in NBA history. The Portland Trailblazers passed on Michael Jordan to select Sam Bowie. The Royals passed on Bill Russell. Minnesota take two point guards, Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn at 5-6 and pass over Steph Curry. The Blazers take Greg Oden over Kevin Durant. The Pistons passed on, took Darko Milichick, and they passed on Romero Anthony, Chris Bosh, and D. Wade. The Suns and the Kings, they passed on Luka Doncic. The Sonics traded Scottie Pippins for, what's the guy? He was from Virginia. Oh, okay. That's who they traded him for, Odom Polonese.
51:26Shannon Sharpe:Ah, man. The Blazers take LaRue Martin over Bob McAdoo. The Grizzlies take Hashim Thabit over James Harden. And I remember this. The Warriors traded Robert Parrish, the number three pick for Kevin McHale, to the Celtics for number one, Joe Barry Carroll. If I'm not mistaken, Joe Barry Carroll was a Purdue baller maker.
51:49Chad Johnson:I don't know what the hell Minnesota was thinking taking Rubio and Flynn. back-to-back like that under AA. There's stuff like that that haunts you, bro. Like you... You pass on Steph Curry. Yeah, I just think sometimes these GMs, they overthink it. You know what I mean? It's just like, if you ask me, it's just like this draft. If you don't take AJ first, you just over-damn-thinking it. You know, I know... I know Peterson probably don't want to go to Utah. Utah probably going to take Boozer, but man, But the thing is, why would I take Peterson when I got Trey? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
52:32Chad Johnson:Like, you're going to go get another guard. You already got a hell of a point guard than Trey. When you can go get this 6 '9", Phenom, who can do every damn thing. Man, please.
52:47Shannon Sharpe:Didn't Joe Badcaro go to Purdue? I'm almost certain he did. Mmm.
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55:42Shannon Sharpe:I thought so.
55:46It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q &A.
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56:19Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, appreciate that care package, boy, you sent me too, boy. Hey, hey, hey. Yeah. Hey, you probably outdid yourself on that one, but I sure appreciate it. I sure appreciate it. Yeah. No problem. No problem.
56:34Shannon Sharpe:how do you uh how do i how do i deal with my baby mother being bitter about a new woman and saying she's jealous even though she has a new man i want to just focus on the child and nothing you can do just make it look don't ever go back and you know do what you did to get
56:52Chad Johnson:get that's the problem when you double hey hey you're looking at your baby mama and you double back and when you're doing that, bro, it's going to be a lot of confusion, conflict. It's going to bring all that. You can't do that, bro. He did not do that. Leave it. Leave it. Slippery slope.
57:13Shannon Sharpe:Very, very. And I understand some of you, you know, you might have a very attractive mama and she's looking good and she's like, we can be together. But I'm telling you, bro, you asking for trouble. And look, some might be cool. I mean, you know, I went through that when I had, you know, and well, Why you can't be with me, but some things are just offered without explanation. But whatever you do, bro, don't you spend the block.
57:38Chad Johnson:You can't, bro. And when they withholding the child and won't let you see your child, you got to hold them emotions, bro. You can't. See, they want you to act a fool. That's what they want. You can't act no fool, man. Take it however it may come. you got to deal with however you got to deal with it but
58:02Shannon Sharpe:and the system is not set up for the man oh because if you act a certain way the courts are going to step in and make you act accordingly they act a certain way they're going to be like
58:12Chad Johnson:oh well you know you guys just need to work it out are we i we ain't got no rights now no i ain't telling what somebody told me what i know yeah i'm with you i'm I done been there.
58:29Shannon Sharpe:So, I just say, bro, just do the best you can. Just make sure you be there for the child. Do whatever you can for the child because, like you said, she's moved on. She got a new man. But the problem is she wants to hold you hostage because they feel that the connection, and they know that you want to be, most, some, not all, there's some men like, hell, you do whatever you want to do. I ain't got to see the child so forth and so on. But for the most part, most men want to see their kids, and they hold the kids as a ploy, as a hostage, as leverage. And it shouldn't be that way. And then the kid grows up thinking that the father didn't want to be a part of his life.
59:04Shannon Sharpe:The kid grows up with a resentment towards his father, not knowing the mother played a huge role in that. Yep. Yep. And you saw the Michael Beasley. Guys, I had Michael Beasley on it. You heard what his mom was telling him. That wasn't the truth. because when he had an opportunity to talk to his dad, his dad said, I tried to see you. I would come over there. Your mom would take all my money and still wouldn't let me see you. So he built up a resentment towards her.
59:34Chad Johnson:Yeah, man. I get it. Everybody says all the things, yeah, I want to be with you, and you have a child, and you bring a life into this world, and I know maybe it was a lie, well, I'm going to be with you forever. Things happen.
59:48Shannon Sharpe:things happen and you have to go your certain your separate ways but don't use the kid as leverage don't use the kid as a ploy to get back it's supposed to be you and your co-parent for the best interest of the child it should never be in the best interest of you it should never be in the best interest of me what is in the best interest of the child well and it's hard because when emotions get involved, there's a lot of times you say and do things that you wouldn't normally do.
1:00:24Chad Johnson:Hey, and don't let them know that you really love your child and you really want to be in your child's life. Oh, man. Boy, they're going to make a hell on you. They're going to make a hell on you.
1:00:35Shannon Sharpe:But I would just say, bro, just pray and just hope before you know it, you'll blink and the child will be big enough and can have his or her own phone and they can be a direct line of communication. But in the meantime, bro, it's tough. And so when it's gone through a similar situation, it's tough. That's an under - And then when you look back at it, and, you know, I was able to sit down and like, you know, hey, there were some mistakes that were made that we could have done things a lot different. We could have done things a lot different. But me, being who I am, kind of, bro, I ain't going to let you get up ahead.
1:01:13I ain't going to let you get up ahead. You got to fight back now.
1:01:16Chad Johnson:You're going to have to fight back. Yeah.
1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:Love both athletes and both all-times great, but do you think created more negative ripple effect in their sports? Steph Curry with all these threes and everyone like the shoe of Floyd since everyone wants to finish undefeated.
1:01:34Chad Johnson:I think both, bro. Like, I think even in the boxing world, you know, you have a lot of these guys who don't want that one or that asterisk on the side of their record. So everybody wants to keep the O. And in basketball, yes, I think Curry has definitely changed the game to where guys shooting these 30, 40-foot three-pointers, you know what I mean, thinking they Steph. And some are successful, some aren't. But I think they both are a significant part of, you know, definitely the boxing world with the O and with guys shooting these long threes, bro.
1:02:12Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, is that for me, I think Floyd because I don't think when I look at the historic greats, I don't think anybody look at Roberto Duran. I don't think anybody look at Hagler or Sugar Ray or Tommy Hearns or Muhammad Ali and say, well, they're not great because they're undefeated. If you go back and look at it, most people have Rocky Marciano ranked below a lot of these heavyweights, even though he was undefeated. and so now we don't get the fights that we know that we should get because everybody's ducking everybody says well i mean if i get if i if i don't if i'm get a blemished on my resume people are not gonna look at me the same and that's sad because it's the opposite of mma yeah i will i mean george george saint pierre still gets ranked as one of the greats
1:03:07Chad Johnson:Even though he haven't lost. And when you look at it, you got to look at the era that we're in too. You know what I mean? The social media era. Everything is magnified times 109 days. As opposed to back then, you take a, yeah, everybody knew about it, but now there's going to be so many clips that you're getting your ass knocked out or losing. You know what I mean? A lot of cats don't want to have to feel that ripple effect. and
1:03:35Shannon Sharpe:because I grew up in the 80s I remember all the great fighters fighting each other Sugar Ray fought Tommy Hearns Tommy Hearns fought Roberto Duran they fought Hagler they fought Iran Barkley in the 70s the heavyweights Norton and Frazier and Ali and Foreman they got those guys fought Ron Lyles they fought it wasn't no ducking and dodging I think maybe you got too many belts now. Because everybody's like, well, I got the IBF belt and my belt is more valuable than WBO and the WBA and the Ring Magazine. Nobody wants to fight. Everybody wants to end their record undefeated. And unfortunately, you think ending your record, ending your career undefeated is going to put you in front of some of these others.
1:04:23Shannon Sharpe:But you're going to be very, very disappointed when it doesn't happen.
1:04:27Chad Johnson:And a lot of these top fighters don't fight as frequent as those guys did back then. No, no. I think the money is much different now, Joe. I think because, you know, you make 10, 15, 20 million a fight, guys back then weren't making that kind of money. And so you had to fight. Guys were fighting three, four times a year. You might, at max, you might get a guy fighting in March or April, maybe May, and then fight late September, early October. over. But at max, you're getting two fights. Max, most of the time, you're probably going to get one. And they're going to take a couple years off here. Because they're sitting so fat now when it comes to these paychecks, when it comes to boxing.
1:05:13Chad Johnson:It's just a lot different now.
1:05:17Shannon Sharpe:It is. It's very different, and it is what it is. I think that's why a lot of people have gone away from boxing because they don't see the fights that they want to feel. Imagine if Lennox Lewis and Holyfield and Riddick Bowe and all those guys, the Razor Ruddicks and the Mike, if they didn't fight.
1:05:38Chad Johnson:Them boys getting to it. Come on, man. How y 'all in the same how y 'all in the same era and y 'all don't never cross paths? That's not possible. Hmm.
1:05:58Shannon Sharpe:man y 'all been seeing james winston that dude has been a real dual star hosting the world cup on fox i have not but i know he is a character uh you know you i've seen him you know in the huddle and saying certain things and in the warm-ups yeah he he definitely has a media career
1:06:15Chad Johnson:oh yeah yeah yeah multi yeah multi they gonna get him up i can see that now i can see that now
1:06:23Shannon Sharpe:Hey, guys. Welcome to Priceland, a.k.a. Minnesota Joe. If you're looking for a great restaurant, go to my high school classmates' Italian restaurant, Dario, in the North Loop in Minneapolis.
1:06:35Chad Johnson:Let me write that down, Dario.
1:06:39Shannon Sharpe:That's Lainey Ray. She's a Minnesota native.
1:06:45Chad Johnson:That's right down the street from us. Eight minutes from me. All right, I'm about to go check them out. you like you like Italian yeah you don't like Italian food
1:07:01Shannon Sharpe:you don't
1:07:02Chad Johnson:you don't care for it you a soul food brother
1:07:06Shannon Sharpe:I grew up on Chef Boardice so chopped up hot dog yeah yeah yeah I mean I'm trying to think when the last time I had lasagna I don't know, probably 15 years. Spaghetti, probably just as long. I mean, when Shelly comes out here and she goes to this Italian place and she'll just get like, you know, she'll get spaghetti and meatballs, but they have these meatballs made with a movie. And they're probably about the size of a... I'm saying five. I already know it. Ooh.
1:07:52Shannon Sharpe:in your prime would you rather fight A. John Jones in a cage match or B. you can only do number two in a port-a-potty at a construction site for a week's time
1:08:02Chad Johnson:which one you picking you probably gonna pick that port-a-potty you better leave John Jones ass alone hey let me go I'm gonna go ahead and let John go ahead and choke me out go ahead and get choked out you gonna let him choke you out versus you in that port-a-potty yep yep That man said a port-a-potty on a construction site. Man, you know how many asses done been on that port-a-potty? It's hot. Oh, no. I'm going to check number two. It all right.
1:08:37Shannon Sharpe:Architect Nights TV, happy Juneteenth. Happy Juneteenth. Yes, happy Juneteenth. Questions. What do the Nuggets and the Sixers need to do to get back in playoff contention? Will there be a live nightcap episode of the NBA draft? Yes. Check out Ocho's podcast, The Late Run, Go Team USA. I think for the Sixers, maybe you do have to get off NBA
1:09:03Chad Johnson:and try to find something where you can get some draft capital back, whether you can get an all-star caliber player back. because when I watched him play, obviously the injuries hurt him, but it's just so stagnant offensively when he's out there. The ball doesn't move. It sticks a lot. And it's hard for guys like Edge, Cummings, Maxie to be in rhythm. You know, when I've watched him play, obviously in the postseason. So I think he still has some great value in him. I think he just needs to go to a different situation, bro. Who was the other team that you asked about? The Nuggets. The Nuggets.
1:09:40Shannon Sharpe:I think the Nuggets need to stay healthy. I think if Aaron Gordon can stay healthy, because remember, they took OKC two years ago to a game seven, and Gordon was hurt. This year, Gordon was hurt. I think he – Watson was hurt.
1:09:55Chad Johnson:Ain't this Gordon country? Don't he get paid this summer?
1:09:59Shannon Sharpe:I think they can do it. Is he up or does he have one year left, Aaron Gordon?
1:10:07Chad Johnson:I don't know, man.
1:10:14Chad Johnson:because boy J McDaniel had had Jamal Murray in a straight jacket you know that's that's just a tough matchup that was a tough matchup
1:10:26Shannon Sharpe:oh his deal starts this year well he already on a new deal what did he get he got three years 103 so basically almost 35 a year
1:10:36Chad Johnson:yeah if he can stay healthy man and they'll be all right. And you get that Watson kid, get him taken care of. Health plays a major role. Because I think they probably tried to move on from Christian Brown. Yeah, I think so, too. I don't think – he didn't give them what they probably anticipated. No. No. I mean, he played pretty good in that championship year. Once they figured him out, it was a wrap.
1:11:01Shannon Sharpe:Yep. Yo, what up, Big Three? Next Friday, Unk's birthday, there's a World Cup game in H-Town. sounds like the perfect time to reunite at the Devil's Playground.
1:11:10Chad Johnson:What we doing? What we doing? I know Ocho down. Hell, I ain't got to ask him.
1:11:18What you thinking, Thanos?
1:11:21Shannon Sharpe:You want daddy to be home or you want daddy to be on the road?
1:11:28Shannon Sharpe:There you have to go. He said, man, you asked me that question.
1:11:35We're definitely going to be on. I'll be working on my birthday. I don't know how Ash planned that, but I'm working on my birthday. I got the day after off. Yeah. We off on Friday?
1:11:50Okay. No, we off. Okay. Yay.
1:11:59Huh?
1:12:01Shannon Sharpe:29th. When's your birthday? The 28th or 29th, Joe? 29th. I think we're working on yours it's okay it's okay
1:12:08Chad Johnson:it's okay it's okay
1:12:15Shannon Sharpe:ISO I said the same watching soccer every sports need a national flopping you do man
1:12:20Chad Johnson:like you gotta hey man you gotta take that flopping out of the sports because look when I'm sitting here watching the soccer games hell I don't know if a dude really hurt or not when he laying down I'm like damn they play they have some good acting jobs out there now.
1:12:39Shannon Sharpe:Who's the greater coach, Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich?
1:12:43Chad Johnson:I'm probably going to go Pop, bro. I think Phil, Phil just, Phil had arguably, hell, he had the best damn group.
1:12:51Shannon Sharpe:He had four of the 10 greatest players to ever play. At least three, excuse me, three of the greatest. He could, you could say Phil Jackson coached three of the greatest 10 players to ever play in the NBA. And I think Pop
1:13:04Chad Johnson:only had one. Pop had a. You take it from a guy who done played against Pop in a couple playoff series. Hey, man, he wanted the best to do it, bro. He wanted the best to ever do it.
1:13:21Shannon Sharpe:T.S. Car Wash Detail Service. Ha Ha Dad hiding in the attic was sad, huh?
1:13:26Chad Johnson:Yeah, that was, bro. Damn.
1:13:30Shannon Sharpe:And you don't know if he's embarrassed. Just, you know, you don't – it's easy to stand and judge someone else's – judge someone else from your own yard where you don't know what's actually going on inside their home.
1:13:52Shannon Sharpe:And then a lot of times when I – for me is that when I sit across from someone, I'm just listening. I'm not judging them. I don't know their situation. I don't know that man's situation. I don't know. I don't know the trauma that he's had in his life. Because a lot of times, Joe, if you don't hear from the trauma that you've suffered, you'll bleed on someone even though they didn't cut you. Hello. And that happens a lot. You mask it. You just deal with it. You suppress it. And unbeknownst to you, you're doing a lot of the same thing that you had done to you.
1:14:28Chad Johnson:Yep. Hey, man, when I heard that man say, he said his dad, he said he talked to him through the door. Through the door, yeah. Yeah, that's cold-blooded, though. What?
1:14:44Shannon Sharpe:What was it like having to deal with DT and Neal Smith twice a year? It was hell. It was hell. Because Kansas City back then, there were no more defense. They had Neil and DT on one side. They had Dan Salamua, Big Joe Phillips. At first they had Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross, and then they got DC and James Hastie. Earlier they had Deron Cherry. They were defensively loaded. They were loaded. And that stadium, y 'all know the stadium loud. It's one of the loudest stadiums.
1:15:26Shannon Sharpe:in the NFL. And boy, when that thing was ratcheted up,
1:15:37Shannon Sharpe:then Neil came and joined us. Please consider the following. An IRL stream at a buffet. Please, this would heal the country.
1:15:48Chad Johnson:If you streamed at a buffet? Oh, man, listen. I think, no, no, no, no, no.
1:16:02Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to think, who does a buffet? I think there's a place called Country Buffet. I think they might still be in existence. There used to be one on Beaufort Highway.
1:16:11Chad Johnson:There's got to be some buffets still around somewhere. Chad, is there any famous buffets that we're missing? I try to do away from the buffet because people just let their kids go up there and be playing all in the food and the ice cream I already know what you're talking about so
1:16:35Shannon Sharpe:I've kind of old country that might be the name of old country buffet
1:16:38Chad Johnson:and you go up there man and touch the all on every cookie up there yeah yeah yeah they grabbing the chicken with the house nah oh
1:16:54Shannon Sharpe:Old Country Buffet is still open. Golden Corral is a buffet? Yeah, I think so. I've never been.
1:17:04I ain't know Golden Corral was a buffet.
1:17:10Yeah. $150 for a buffet?
1:17:15Chad Johnson:That's how much a buffet costs now? at the casinos oh casinos
1:17:20Shannon Sharpe:yeah because Joe they be having endless crab legs they have lobster tail and shrimp and all that so they gotta get their money back nah I don't eat all that yeah hey I got your I got your little quick 2025 give me a couple of pieces of fried chicken a couple of fried steaks a pork chopper some mac and cheese and mac and cheese I'm gonna sit my ass down
1:17:39Chad Johnson:hey them casinos
1:17:40Shannon Sharpe:ain't no way I can eat 150 dollars
1:17:41Chad Johnson:oh yeah them casinos got a mean scheme going boy
1:17:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. I can't eat. I can't eat that kind of thing like that. I know. I think the wind has a buffet. Oh, they got some.
1:17:55Chad Johnson:That's typically where I stay when I go to Vegas. Boy, they got some good. Oh, the wind? Okay.
1:18:03Shannon Sharpe:Where you stay? He said, I live in my pen.
1:18:14Shannon Sharpe:that concludes this episode of nightcap we want to thank you guys for tuning in as you watch the usa they're going to advance thanks to a two-way win over australia uh they play very very well they're plus five in the gold margin um they can win the uh uh the group outright your paraguay draws. What if they need to win? They need to lose a draw, right? And I think they win the group outright. But USA looked good in their first two matches. They've dominated. They've beaten teams that they should beat instead of playing down to the competition and not playing as well as people would have expected them to play.
1:18:52Shannon Sharpe:They played extremely well in these situations. We are very, very proud of the U.S. men's national team. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That is my partner. One of them has already signed off. He had a prior engagement. That is Ocho Cinco Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three is a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alum. That's him, the big bucket getter. That is Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from.
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1:20:06Shannon Sharpe:But again, thank you for joining us tonight at this special time. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. I'm up. He's ISO. We're out.
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