Nightcap Hour 2: Kelsey Plum REVENGE game + Olivia Miles has ARRIVED + YOUR GIRL court side is a DANGEROUS

24 May 2026 · 52 min · 23 chapters

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In short

The hosts mix sports talk (OKC Thunder vs. San Antonio Spurs playoff matchup), WNBA game recaps (Las Vegas Aces vs. LA Sparks), and off-court “court-side” culture stories, plus a brief discussion of Ant-Man (Anthony Edwards) shaking hands with Spurs players early and why it wasn’t “weakness.” They also trade personal anecdotes about scoping fans/people from the bench.

Guests (named in transcript)

No formal podcast guests are clearly introduced. The episode repeatedly references Kelsey Plum and Olivia Miles as featured figures in the WNBA segment, and “Ant-Man” (Anthony Edwards) as the subject of a quote. Malcolm Glabal (IBM Smart Talks) and Stefano Pallard (Scuderia Ferrari head of fan development) appear only as ad/interview content, not as in-studio guests.

Key claims

OKC’s defense and role-player shooting—especially Alex Caruso—are central to winning; Shea Gilgeous-Alexander’s “long two” game forces doubles and opens kick-out threes. Caruso is described as scorching from three (claimed 61% in the conference finals). Ant-Man’s early handshakes are framed as respect for the Spurs, not signaling weakness.

Notable examples

Caruso guarding Wembanyama (and why smaller, wiry defense helps); Jalen Williams and others stepping up when Shea is doubled; WNBA: Kelsey Plum scoring 38 in a Sparks win over the Aces 101-95; Kennedy Carter’s 23 points and 8-of-13 shooting from three.

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Chapters

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Analyzing Team Bench Performance

2:29 to 4:58

Delve into the impact of bench players on game outcomes.

“Joe, you're not beating a team if you allow the team's bench to score 76 damn points.”

The Importance of Defensive Strategies

4:58 to 8:18

Understand how defensive matchups can dictate game strategies.

“Caruso got some fight Ocho yes and you gotta look at Wimby is not strong in his lower bodies so he's at a disadvantage Caruso is wiry strong if you remember last year, they put Caruso on Jokic.”

Offensive Plays and Shooting Techniques

8:18 to 10:00

Learn about effective offensive plays and shooting techniques in basketball.

“But the problem is, Joe, that's a bad shot for most people.”

Key Players and Their Performance

10:00 to 13:00

Evaluate key players' contributions to their teams' success.

“two or three times through the leg and pull up in your face.”

Anticipating Future Games and Strategies

13:00 to 14:00

Discuss predictions for future games and the needed strategies.

“I think Caruso started three for three from the three.”

Analyzing Player Strategies

14:00 to 14:56

Discussion on defensive strategies and player effectiveness in basketball.

“a defensive player to your candidate you are all nba i mean you are nfl uh defensive player and all of a sudden, nah, I ain't going to deal with Ocho.”

Caruso's Impact and Value

14:56 to 16:04

Exploring Caruso's shooting percentage and his value to the team.

“I mean, the guy might have a game or two, but that's the regular season.”

Overestimating Personal Value

16:04 to 18:26

Discussion on the common mistake of overestimating self-worth in relationships.

“what goes on in the mind of a GM and understanding how valuable this player is, especially the way he's playing at OKC.”

Lessons on Relationship Expectations

18:26 to 21:07

Insights on expectations in relationships and the reality of choices.

“Guys and gals is that we believe that we are their only option.”

Athletes and Dating Patterns

21:07 to 23:38

Examining the trends of athletes dating similar individuals.

“The mistake is, ain't nobody know about this one.”
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Scouting Potential from the Bench

23:38 to 26:10

Humorous anecdotes about spotting attractive individuals during games.

“I'm telling you you sleep on the MLB players don't do that yeah don't do that MLB?”

The Ant-Man Controversy

26:10 to 28:00

Discussion on Ant-Man's recent controversial actions during a game.

“It was unlocked, it was unlocked, that cross here like a truck.”

Ant-Man's Backlash Response

28:00 to 28:45

Ant-Man shares his perspective on being criticized for congratulating opponents too early in a game.

“Yeah, hey, I'm telling you, I done seen it boy.”

Reflections on Losing and Winning

33:47 to 41:41

The hosts discuss their personal experiences with winning, losing, and sportsmanship.

“Advisory services by Public Advisors, LLC, SEC Registered Advisor.”

Discussion on Sciatica and Health

41:41 to 42:00

The hosts share insights on dealing with health issues like sciatica and their experiences.

“I mean, I don't know if anybody ever had back spathom, but it ran into my sciatica.”

Understanding Sciatica and Body Maintenance

42:00 to 45:00

Learn about sciatica, its impact on movement, and body maintenance tips.

“Man, but I ended up having to have two epidurals for that.”

Personal Basketball Experience and Growth

45:00 to 47:00

Hear personal anecdotes from basketball experiences and insights on improvement.

“Got to take maintenance on that body, bro.”

Kelsey Plum's Performance and WNBA Insights

52:45 to 54:20

Discuss Kelsey Plum's recent game and the dynamics within the WNBA teams.

“From executive producer Lena Waithe, the acclaimed series, The Shy, reaches its final chapter.”

Analysis of WNBA Players and Team Dynamics

54:20 to 56:00

Explore player performances and team dynamics in recent WNBA games.

“Kelsey Plum, Florida, season high, 38 points.”

Kelsey Plum's Performance and Impact

56:00 to 57:19

Discover how Kelsey Plum's recent game performance reflects her growth and challenges.

“She gave you 12, but I don't know what's going on with Jackie Young.”

Team Dynamics and Player Developments

57:20 to 59:21

Learn about the evolving dynamics within the WNBA teams and player situations affecting performance.

“She said, I need to be a number one option.”

Olivia Miles: Rising Star

59:22 to 1:01:50

Explore Olivia Miles' impressive start in her rookie season and her potential impact in the league.

“They're going to be where they need to be when it's all said and done.”

Current WNBA Landscape

1:01:51 to 1:02:54

Gain insights into the current state of the WNBA and the competition among teams.

“But they beat the Lynx – excuse me, the Lynx beat the Sky 85-75.”
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2:30Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you're not beating a team if you allow the team's bench to score 76 damn points. You're not beating them.

2:38Joe Johnson:Will they do that again, though? Will the bench be able to come out and have that kind of goddamn efficiency? Man, them boys are balling. The way they play, the way the bench played the other night, Joe and Ong, they would be starting on other teams.

2:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but the problem that you have, Ocho, is that they outscored them by 32. They outscored them by 34. So even if they don't play like that, they're still outscoring them by 30-plus. You give up 30-plus, you let the bench consistently outscore your team by 30. You're going to lose. Yeah. You're going to lose because your starters can't play but so much. And when you go to the bench, you find yourself coming back in, you're down 10, you're down 14. Okay, you cut it back. You go back to the bench. You find yourself back down them numbers again. So you're never playing from an advantageous situation.

3:26Shannon Sharpe:You're always playing catch up. And once they weathered that storm, I gave you everything I had. And you know, she over there talking about, I want some more, daddy. Oh, no. What you mean, when? When do you expect this to happen? It's Sunday. I'll see you Wednesday. Yeah, I need a nap first. I need a nap. Hey, a nap. I need a nap and buy two or three meals in me. Build back up. I gotta recharge this battery. And so when you look at OKC and you look how they come at you in waves, McCain doing what he does, J Will doing what he does, Caruso has been there, done that. He's tried, true, and tested.

4:12Chad Johnson:So I guess the next step for the Thunder is who they start at the three since A.J. Mitchell is going to be out. He out. You got Jalen Williams out. So that's two perimeter guys. You really plug and play.

4:25Shannon Sharpe:Caruso starting. Yeah. Caruso going to start. Yeah, Caruso and Lou Dort along with Shea and the two bigs. Yeah, yeah.

4:33Joe Johnson:Hey, I'm glad you just said Caruso's name. Hey, Joe, give me a better explanation. As great as he is, Caruso is defensively. Hell, he do every goddamn thing.

4:45Chad Johnson:Yeah.

4:45Joe Johnson:with the disadvantage in height and they still put Caruso on goddamn Wimby what's the reason for that

4:52Chad Johnson:it don't matter how big the dog is it's how much fight he got in Caruso got some fight Ocho yes

5:03Shannon Sharpe:and you gotta look at Wimby is not strong in his lower bodies so he's at a disadvantage Caruso is wiry strong if you remember last year, they put Caruso on Jokic. And he did a great job of keeping him from getting where he wanted to go.

5:20Joe Johnson:Jokic ain't got that kind of feet. He ain't got that kind of movement. So he damn near, he not... Well, listen. I don't want to be disrespectful.

5:27Chad Johnson:He can't move like Wimby. Listen, the smaller guy is always, to some degree, has an advantage because he has lower leverage. Right.

5:36Shannon Sharpe:He down here. You trying to push up top, and he down here.

5:39Chad Johnson:It's hard, bro. And his feet is quicker than Wimby's. You know what I mean? So he can slide his feet, stay in front of him, keep him in front. And Wimby, yeah, he'll take a tough shot and make a tough shot over him, but you're going to live with that, bro. Live with it. Yeah, versus him being out there winding Hardenstein up, driving by Hardenstein, and once he take off on that launch pad, what are we going to do with that? We can't do nothing with that.

6:01Shannon Sharpe:Nothing. And as long as Wimby hasn't figured out consistently, once I get the ball up here, I don't need to bring it down here to Caruso's sweet spot. I got to just, hey, I'm going to keep it up here and turn and shoot over the top of you. Because every time he break it down, Caruso going to get it.

6:17Chad Johnson:Yep, yep. All he got, he still, obviously at 22 years old, man, y 'all know he still got some maturity and polishing. Got so much to learn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he will be great over the next 10 to 15, 20 years, however long he gets a chance to play. You know, this is a learning curve for him, bro. But I know they want to win in this learning process. But I just feel like with the experience that the Thunder have, understanding what they have to do now, you know, as far as the type of physicality that they have to bring to the game, there will be somebody else who will step up for the Thunder, I think, in order for them to win this game for.

6:55Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is you got to try. I think if you go back and look, they did a great job for, like, the first half on Shea, and then he got going. Yeah, yeah. And when he got going, now, like, damn, what do we do? If we send a double, guys are knocking down shots. J. Will is knocking down shots. McCain is knocking down shots. Caruso is knocking down shots. Wallace is knocking down shots. So, damn, man. I mean, so what do I do, Joe? If I go one-on-one, I know Shea going to cook me. If I help with Shea, guys are knocking down shots. It's like, okay, we brought the double. It's like the Lakers.

7:37Shannon Sharpe:Lakers say, you know what, we're going to make sure they give it up. Okay, he gave it up, but AJ Mitchell couldn't miss.

7:44Chad Johnson:Right, right.

7:44Shannon Sharpe:Caruso couldn't miss. So now, I mean.

7:48Chad Johnson:Hey, look, you got – but the Spurs got defenders. It ain't like they've been playing bad defense. I think they've been playing them pretty damn good. I just think when you're a great player, you're going to take and make tough shots. Tough shots, absolutely. And that's what Shea has been doing. He's been taking a lot of 17, 18, 19-foot jump shots right inside the three. Analytically, they would say them are bad damn shots. But look, those shots are shots that he will be able to get every game, bro. He just has to make them.

8:19Shannon Sharpe:But the problem is, Joe, that's a bad shot for most people. That is a sweet spot shot for him. Yeah, yeah. He's like, ah, nah, nah, hey, this is where I want him. No, this is where he want to be. Yeah, yeah.

8:33Chad Johnson:Listen, bro, I've been there, man. I'm talking about in the postseason to where it's so much attention on you. If you get inside the damn paint, they're sending the doubles so damn quick that you can't even turn your head fast enough to get off the ball. So you have to work on these long twos, long threes. And this is why you get guys like Dame Lillard and Steph Curry. They extended their range two, three, four steps beyond the three-point line. So you have to respect them out there. Now if you come out here and guard me, I got all this real estate to come downhill and be able to work with. And I think for Shea, his three-point game ain't like that.

9:11Chad Johnson:Yeah, he'll make a three, but his two-point game is so immaculate that he's able to get to his spots, pull up. And then he put them in that huckleball, Ocho, to where you start to go for these pump fakes. Okay, boom, I got you. Now let me get to the line, give me a couple free throws, get a nice little rhythm. I done made two, three free throws in a row, four free throws. Now this jump shot done opened up. now y 'all at my mercy. You know what I mean? So now I done done my job. Now if y 'all started to bring the double team, okay, boom. Now you got check wide open for three. Now you got the Wallace and the Caruso's and J-Dubs.

9:43Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? Now the floor is opened up. So I think Shea understands that part.

9:49Shannon Sharpe:Joe, God ain't finna give Shea the ability to shoot the three like God dang on Steph and J-Dame. What the hell? Six, seven and be able, the way they can, Because you got to understand, they whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop two or three times through the leg and pull up in your face. That ain't really Shea's game. Shea's looking to sidestep.

10:08Chad Johnson:Yeah.

10:09Shannon Sharpe:And they all can both, Dame and Steph can sidestep. But the ability to handle the ball and shoot it like that from out there, man, he'll win eight MVPs in a row. You can't let that man be able to. Because just think about it. If you gave Dame Lillard with his ability to shoot the ball, if you gave him Shea's height.

10:32Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

10:34Shannon Sharpe:If you gave Steph Curry his ability to shoot the ball, you gave him Shea's height. I can't.

10:39Chad Johnson:Say God ain't going to give you everything. Hell no.

10:42Shannon Sharpe:No. I mean, so you want Shaq with his size and his dominance to be able to shoot 90 % from the three. I mean, from the free throw line. And to be able to shoot a three-point shot. Let's just say a 15-foot shot. That's not fair. Shaq now is 50. Easy. I can't give him everything. I got to take something. It's like AI. Just imagine if AI was 6 '8". Can handle the ball like he handled it. Can't quit like he was.

11:15Joe Johnson:And play a ball.

11:16Shannon Sharpe:God had to make him 6 '1", a buck 65. That ain't fair.

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11:21Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

11:23Shannon Sharpe:Look, he got to take something.

11:26Chad Johnson:Yeah.

11:29Shannon Sharpe:But the thing is that, you know, I've got to be able to live with something. I got to be able to live with something. So if I shut his water off, I got to be living. I got to be able to live with holes popping up elsewhere.

11:48Chad Johnson:Too good of a team.

11:50Shannon Sharpe:I got to leak somewhere.

11:51Chad Johnson:They too.

11:52Shannon Sharpe:But I know Shea is the main. Shea is the main source. I want to neutralize that as much as I possibly can. Because if I don't neutralize that, I ain't got no chance. I don't. I have no chance of beating.

12:03Chad Johnson:I think even though Shea is great, obviously two-time MVP, one-time champ, they're just too good of a damn team. As good as he is, I mean, you look at the guys who – they've been having a different guy pretty much every game outside of him to step up and really help win games since game one. Like, they have a plethora of guys so they can throw at you. And everybody. I mean, from top to bottom, bro, they know they roll. Do y 'all know how many games have went by to where the big J-Dub hadn't played? And you mean to tell me you throw his ass in there like this, game three, hostile environment, and that man give you 18 points with five or six from three?

12:45Chad Johnson:Come on, man.

12:46Shannon Sharpe:And that's the thing, Joe. He came in off the rip. As soon as he came in, they left him open. He hit a shot. I'm like, well, damn. And I know they're saying, hey, let's see if he can make a couple of those. Well, he make a couple of those. He's going to get in the rhythm, and now you got hell on your hands. And then guess what? Jerry McCain come in. He's knocking it down. Wallace knocking it down. I think Caruso started three for three from the three. Caruso has been basically their second best player. Yeah. Because he's been their second most. Shea's been the guy. but Caruso's been right there.

13:18Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

13:19Shannon Sharpe:Because I said, Joe, ain't no way he going to keep staying this hot. He stayed that hot from the three-point line. What's Caruso shooting from the three? He probably shooting 60-plus damn percent from the three-point line.

13:28Chad Johnson:He probably, yeah. Yeah, he been hot. He been hot. He been hot. I'm looking for –

13:34Shannon Sharpe:That's ghost pepper hot.

13:36Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. I'm looking for Chek Homer to step up, though, in game four. You know, I'm looking for him to be a little more assertive, you know, put his stamp on this series because he's an all-star uh he's a hell of a player and hell we acting like check ain't seven one seven two hell well he damn sure don't want to deal with that

13:54Shannon Sharpe:seven five because they got caruso they got everybody else dealing with it and you first team all nba oh joe how that look hey you you the number you are you defensive player you're a defensive player to your candidate you are all nba i mean you are nfl uh defensive player and all of a sudden, nah, I ain't going to deal with Ocho. Hey, you go get him. Now, hell nah. You get him.

14:14Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. Wow.

14:19Shannon Sharpe:Caruso shooting better from the three than he is from the two.

14:24Chad Johnson:Hey, look, for the Thunder, though, Ocho, you don't want Cech guarding him right off dump. I want Hardenstein guarding him off dump just so he can lean on him, wear him down a little bit. Then, you know, in the second half, you'll start to see check on him a little more after, you know, you done kind of took some of his legs. I think that's the strategy that OKC is going with. And obviously, hell, since game one, you know, it's been pretty effective, if you ask me. Yeah.

14:51Shannon Sharpe:But, I mean, Caruso shooting 61 % from the three.

14:56Chad Johnson:Hey, man, that's scorching, bro.

14:58Shannon Sharpe:And a championship. I mean, think about it. I mean, the guy might have a game or two, but that's the regular season. He's shooting 61 % from the three in the conference finals.

15:13Chad Johnson:Listen, they have a bunch of unselfish guys.

15:16Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

15:17Chad Johnson:They have a bunch of guys who understand how to get the spots on the floor, meaning get inside that paint. We always talk about guys in basketball. Like, you got guards who always can find a way in maneuver and finagle the defense to where they can always get inside the teeth of the defense. man, you're going to be pretty damn good because if you don't score, you're always going to be able to create opportunities because the defense is always going to collapse and you'll be able to kick out for wide open threes and Caruso and Wallace and those guys, they've been recipients of a lot of them great passes, bro.

15:51Chad Johnson:All they got to continue to do is keep making shots here. Hey, Uncle Joe.

15:55Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

15:56Joe Johnson:Look at how valuable Caruso is, huh? Yes. Give me a better understanding or what goes in coach's mind, what goes on in the mind of a GM and understanding how valuable this player is, especially the way he's playing at OKC. What the hell was Palenka think about? What the hell were they thinking about when he was over there in Chicago? Money. What are you doing? Huh? Money.

16:20Chad Johnson:Money. Because you think...

16:22Joe Johnson:He's showing you his value. Money shouldn't be a problem.

16:25Shannon Sharpe:But they think they can find the next guy. I think Caruso was undrafted free agent, wasn't he? So they feel, Ocho, we get this, guys like this, you got you a nice little young lady. She nice, what, what, what, what, Coca-Cola figure, you know what I'm saying? Coke bottle, not the two liter either. Coke figure, you know, the slim bottle, hard bottle that you can't grow up at the side with. She nice, hey, got a nice head on the shoulders, hey, do whatever you need, gotcha. What we think, I found her, I find me another one. Women think the silent thing, I got you, I'll get me another one. Hey, ugh.

17:07Joe Johnson:Yeah, see? Hey, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Joe and Unc, a lot of us have a problem overestimating our value and thinking we'll be able to find equal or better than.

17:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

17:23Joe Johnson:But that's - Guilty.

17:26Shannon Sharpe:Guilty.

17:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey, my girlfriend's telling me all the time, boy, your eyes bigger than your stomach. Oh, hey. Yeah. Hey, that's a good one. Hey, I ain't been on your ass. That's me. That used to be me. Yeah. Not realizing is that when you find somebody and you're with them for a period of time, they know you. Now you're going to have to have somebody relearn you. You're going to have to relearn them. Yeah. all the things that you know maybe she overlooked now she might not overlook it right because guess what the worst mistake we guys and gals can make is to believe that we're someone's only option

18:17Shannon Sharpe:hey do me a favor say that one more time for the people in the back that ain't hear you that is the biggest mistake that we can make. Guys and gals is that we believe that we are their only option. Hey, hey, hey.

18:35Chad Johnson:Thinking, thinking. You ain't the only one trying to be the only one.

18:40Shannon Sharpe:Ooh. Huh?

18:41Chad Johnson:Huh? Yeah. Huh? Yeah.

18:45Shannon Sharpe:And you know, we got very similar tastes when it comes to women. women that look like that got very similar tastes when it come to men.

18:54Joe Johnson:Come on now. Take your time. It ain't even Sunday, but go ahead and preach.

19:04Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you keep thinking you're the only one. Right. You know, you looking on.

19:11Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:15Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Yeah. So Rob, look at that, man. And he was unbelievable. Go back and look at the Lakers. When Caruso and LeBron was on the court, along with AD. Go look at those plus minuses. Look at the A. Boy, they getting out in transition. Caruso could defend. At a high level, LeBron could run the offense. Hey, they come to trap LeBron. LeBron kicking to Caruso. Caruso knock it down. AD was back there.

19:51Chad Johnson:Hey, but what starts to happen is with these championship caliber teams, like OKC, and we talk about being dynasties, y 'all know what happens. These other teams come in, they start to take a lot of your good role players. And you know, you may have to overpay them a little bit, but that's okay, we gotta get them off your damn hands.

20:08Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

20:11Chad Johnson:I tell you what.

20:13Shannon Sharpe:But that's the thing. We get that a lot. Teams do that all the time. Well, we found him. We'll find somebody else. I found her. I'll find me another her. I found him. I'll find me another him. But that process of relearning someone over again. Man. And the thing that what you feel like, man, I ain't going to never put my – and the things that he or she will put up with in one relationship, that doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna put up with it in another one.

20:46Joe Johnson:Oh. Hey, you know what? The more options you have, Uncle Joe, the less tolerance you are for the bullshit.

20:54Chad Johnson:Man.

20:55Joe Johnson:Yes. You're gonna keep playing the game, hoping or thinking because of who you are or what you have going on, that they ain't gonna put you through the same shit. and statistically if you look at it you can keep picking and keep picking and keep picking and think you're getting better and better and better or it's just the same shit it's covered up in gold yeah

21:21Shannon Sharpe:same shit just covered up in gold it's either baked it's fried it's roasted but it's still poop

21:30Joe Johnson:same thing and only people that are experienced in those areas that have done it over time throughout the years will understand what I'm talking about. Oh, Joe.

21:41Shannon Sharpe:The mistake is, ain't nobody know about this one. Okay. Right. It's because you hadn't seen her with that. But don't think. You ain't found a gold mine. She might have been a gold mine, but I guarantee you somebody extracted some of that gold from that mine. Yes, sir.

22:05Shannon Sharpe:That's it, Joe. I'm done, I'm done, that's all, that's it. That's it, I'm keeping it real with you, because I know.

22:14Joe Johnson:You know how to hit you in church, you know how to hit the preacher in church when he preaches that.

22:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I'm telling you, because when you sit down and talk to, hey, we gonna take this thing a little serious, okay? Who, I mean, what? You ever talk to anybody that played professional sports? Yeah. Well, one time. You know, I had your, oh, okay, hold on, hold on. How long ago was this time? Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you.

22:46Chad Johnson:Yeah. Man, you see it a lot, bro. You see it a lot. I mean, I've seen so much, man, from teammates having girlfriends whom I've already seen with somebody else. But, you know, you keep a closed mouth. They ain't got nothing to do with me. They ain't got nothing to do with me.

23:05Shannon Sharpe:Ain't got nothing to do with me. Yeah.

23:08Chad Johnson:Ain't got nothing. Ain't got nothing to do with me.

23:10Joe Johnson:You know, it's funny, too, Joe, when you think about it. You know, there's a saying. They always say, regardless of the sport you play, it seems like all the athletes date the same 35 girls. It's always the same ones. The same. Because you know why, Ojo? Always seem to always keep someone in their roster that plays a sport. whether it's basketball whether it's NFL MLB? same ones

23:40Shannon Sharpe:I'm telling you you sleep on the MLB players don't do that

23:45Chad Johnson:yeah don't do that

23:51Shannon Sharpe:MLB?

23:55look here man okay hey

23:59Shannon Sharpe:look here and you you say man why is it about the uh the player they date the same 35 50 because those same 35 50 are in the same places that those mlb nfl and nba players are in the mix yeah so they have access the reason why you can go pull out 30 40 50 thousand dollars out your account because you have access to that they have access to that so when they're at harriot's or delilah's or that these top live, who you think's in there?

24:32Chad Johnson:Yeah.

24:34Shannon Sharpe:And who let the doorman, who they letting in there? God, go on in there, baby.

24:39Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

24:40Shannon Sharpe:Get on up in there.

24:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, they just gotta be in the vicinity. They gotta be, they in the place. That's all they take on, Joe.

24:46Shannon Sharpe:That's it!

24:47Chad Johnson:Man, stop playing. You already know what's going on. Come on, Joe, you know I don't want to.

24:51Shannon Sharpe:I done got you on that, but they must have put a time. I was the lead dog. Yeah, yeah.

24:58Chad Johnson:Now I'm just on the porch.

25:00Shannon Sharpe:I'm like my old man, my grandfather and grandma, they on the porch, just walking like this.

25:05Joe Johnson:Hey, rocking back and forth like you in the color. Yeah.

25:08Chad Johnson:That's it. Hey, and in basketball, we sit over there on that bench, you know, five minutes left in the game. Let's say we up 20, 30. Hey, cats go to picking your girl off. Man, you see shorty up there, sixth row up there. Don't look right now, but she in the sixth row up there. She up there. Don't look right now, because I don't want to make it obvious. She in the six row up there. She got a white shirt on. Yeah, her homegirl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I need you to go get that number for me. Yeah.

25:35Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Man, I saw her. She used to date. Man, she used to date. Oh, I wonder if she still with her. Ask if she still with her. Nah, she say they been good enough.

25:48Chad Johnson:Yeah.

25:49Shannon Sharpe:I didn't know him like that.

25:51Chad Johnson:Hey, Joe, them boy be sniping from the bench, huh? Man, what the hell? What? What you talking about? Ocho, it ain't nothing to sit over there on the bench and just scan the arena. You just sitting over there scanning like. Yeah. You may, hey, you looking 30 rows up. Yeah, boy, I see some potential up there.

26:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. Pink shirt. Preseason? Yeah. In the regular season, I'm focused. But the preseason? Yeah. But, I'd like the bar of the man.

26:24Shannon Sharpe:It was unlocked, it was unlocked, that cross here like a truck. Yeah, yeah.

26:28Chad Johnson:It's over with. Man.

26:31Shannon Sharpe:Man, I went there. We was in Arizona. It was the last preseason game. Yeah. Man, this girl walked by. Man, they say, hey, Sharp. Man, did you see who just walked? I said, nah. She must have know I didn't see him because she came back to get my attention. She walked back by. Yeah, yeah. I said, oh hell no. I said, hey my man, check this out. Man, hey, go ask her what her name is and see what's up, what's really cracking. Hey, he said such and such, blah, blah, blah. He came back, he had a number.

27:06Chad Johnson:Yeah.

27:06Shannon Sharpe:I said, hey, that's you. I said, but thank you. I ain't ask all that, but thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy, hey, like I told you, 20, 20 year old Shay, 23, 25. You was here with you as well?

27:20Chad Johnson:Was I? Hey, Ocho, you tell the ball boy, yeah, go get that number for me. You pay him. You get a ball boy probably about$200,$300. Just take care of him, you know, for going up there. Yeah. The ball boy, Joe? Yeah, man. Who else going to go do your dirty work for you? Look, look. Hey, hey. Hey, don't go up there right now. Wait till the game over with. Yeah, we're going to be going to the back. You going up there and get that number for me. Yeah, yeah.

27:46Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, hey, hey. and don't let nobody see you. Hey, cause I'm telling you, somebody overbid you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bid you, hey, how much, how much, how much you give you to go up there? You gave me 300, I'll give you five. Guess who gonna get the number?

28:06Chad Johnson:Yeah, hey, I'm telling you, I done seen it boy.

28:09Joe Johnson:Hey, that's funny, that boy. Hey, bro, the stuff that, look I said,

28:14Shannon Sharpe:I can literally write a book. I've seen, I ain't gonna say nothing. I already want y 'all, but I've seen some things. Yes, sir. Same, same. At the altar.

28:28Chad Johnson:Yeah.

28:29Joe Johnson:Huh? Whoa, whoa. At the altar. Take your time.

28:32Shannon Sharpe:What we talking about? Another dude done moved in. But anyway, we moving on. Ant-Man has also responded to the backlash of him dapping up Spurs players with eight minutes left. Let's take a listen to what Ant-Man had to say about this. They were trying to make me a big deal of you daffing them up at the 8 minute mark. Tell us why you did that. I mean, there wasn't no reason why. Like, everybody just... I feel like everybody just got their own opinion. Like, yes, 8 minutes in the game, but we not going back in the game. When you win a playoff series, everybody's celebrating at the end of the game.

29:04Like, so they gonna be smiling while we... While I'm pissed off that we just lost. So, I was just like, let me go and congratulate these boys because I ain't trying to be kicking with y 'all after y 'all done whooped my ass. I didn't want to go dab them up at all. Like, then what they would have been saying about me. Like, that would have been a whole other conversation. So, I gave them the respect they deserved, man. Like, I could have waited until the end of the game. That's what, that's other people's perspective. But, yeah, I did what I did. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco.

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30:55And now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions. When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology and digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans. To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit ibm.com slash Ferrari.

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34:00Chad Johnson:yeah it ain't you know

34:01Shannon Sharpe:it is no easy way when somebody kicking your ass to accept to accept defeat ain't no easy way other than to go do it now football is different obviously you know in basketball Joe y 'all right there cause a lot of times hey we just gone I mean a lot of times guys know each other but like you said, I don't want to be Kiki again, bro, because if I'm smiling, they're going to say, well, I ain't taking it that serious. Yeah, yeah. I did what I did. He already accepted the feat. Bro, we down 30 with eight minutes to go. Ain't no coming back from that. So there's no easy way for Ant-Man to, I guess they didn't want the situation with Isaiah where he doesn't shake the guy's hand and things of that nature.

34:52Joe Johnson:Hey, that's one of those situations, Uncle Joe. Damn if you do. Damn if you don't. Yep. Then, obviously, all the talking heads, all the pundits, all the analysts say, oh, it's a sign of weakness to have your leader, you know, eight minutes before a game, shaking your opponent's hand and just getting it out of the way. But, obviously, Ant had his explanation for it. And you know how he feel. He don't really care. He going to continue to do it his way and march to the beat of his own drum.

35:21Chad Johnson:yeah he i think it ain't that i wouldn't say that he don't care i think he has so much respect for the spurs and how they competed against them and basically how they whoop their ass if you just want me to keep it 100 that you know after them series i wouldn't necessarily say it's a key key thing after they done beat you yeah they happy they celebrating they moving on you know you just want to as soon as the buzzer in ant-man thinking man i just want to get my ass up out of here You know what I mean? So I'm going to take the initiative to just go and dab these boys up now. But, yeah, I know, man, old school cats, it was never like that, bro.

35:57Chad Johnson:You know, matter of fact, damn old school, you ain't never seen nobody go dab nobody up with seven, eight minutes left on no clock. You know what I mean? So I can see the drawback that he's getting from this. I can understand that part. But I can see it from his perspective as well.

36:13Shannon Sharpe:The thing is, if you up like that, you better get your ass out the game. Stay still, be in the game. And y 'all up 30 points and see what happens to you. See what happens.

36:26Chad Johnson:Yeah.

36:27Shannon Sharpe:Oh, oh, you still in here, huh? Y 'all ain't winning by enough. Okay. Okay.

36:34Chad Johnson:Hey.

36:35Shannon Sharpe:And it's different. Ocho, you know us. I mean, look, I'm coming to the A. Whoever I know, hey, man, good game. Good luck. Hey, stay healthy. Y 'all go win this thing. I'm out.

36:44Chad Johnson:Yeah.

36:45Shannon Sharpe:I'm out.

36:45Chad Johnson:He ain't want to hit me.

36:47Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I ain't all that. You done beat me. Even if you my friend, you done beat me.

36:53Chad Johnson:Because it's hard. It's hard in the moment when emotions are high. You know what I mean? Like, damn, bro. We done got our ass kicked on our home floor like this. I ain't really got no worries when this buzzer go off, man. Just let me get in that shower, get my ass up out of here and get home. Yeah.

37:10Shannon Sharpe:Because y 'all definitely, that's the best thing for you to do. Because if you play by team and you've been talking, because I'm on the field. Hey, I need to go out there for the nil down. I need to go out there for the nil down. I need to be out there, Ocho. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, where are they talking? Whoa, whoa. Oh, Big Mouth Sharp ain't going to get nothing. Man, shut up, man. Hey, I tell you what. Whoa, whoa, ain't no no more fighting. You had 59 minutes and 50 seconds to fight. Now you want to fight after the game? Yeah. Nah, nah. I'm going to talk now. Now what you got to say? See, I'm going to rub it in.

37:42Shannon Sharpe:I'm that tight. I'm a sore loser. I'll be the first to admit that. But I'm a worse winner. Oh, boy, don't you let me win. Don't you let me win. You been talking crazy. Yeah. Oh, man. Yes, you're going to want to fight me. And I ain't stopping, punk. Oh, I'm asking.

38:04Chad Johnson:Yeah.

38:05Shannon Sharpe:I'm telling you, don't let me win.

38:08Chad Johnson:Hey, that's why you got cats. I'm the same way. I mean, as far as the winning part, I ain't like that, but I'm a damn sore loser. That's why I work hard as I don't know what because I hate losing, bro.

38:20Shannon Sharpe:Joe, if you think about it, if you hate losing, I'm worse at winning. I'm worse at that. Oh, yes. Because I'm going to talk. I'm going to make it hurt. Because you shouldn't have been running your mouth. You have so much to say at the start of the game. Why you not talking now? You mad? Oh. Ask them boys about the Steelers. We beat them in the championship game in three rivers? Man, shut up. Boy, I swear you ain't finna swing nothing. You finna swing your ass off this field. Yeah. Look, we need to celebrate. We need the whole field to celebrate, and we need y 'all out so we can bring our little 5 ,000 fans to celebrate with us.

39:10Shannon Sharpe:Now, get your ass off this field. man please man I don't know how Joe I'm gonna be honest

39:24Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to think playoff game what's the worst oh we beat we got beat oh man lord have mercy my last game I ever played man Indy beat us so bad yeah

39:38Joe Johnson:Peyton man

39:40Shannon Sharpe:And Marvin Harrison probably had like 150. Brandon Stokes. Go look at the wild card game. Broncos against the Colts, 2004. It was like. Dallas Clark was there? Huh? Dallas Clark was there? Boy, they beat us so bad. Peyton might have had a perfect quarterback rating. I mean, Joe Ocho. Man, when I say they beat the brakes off us, I don't know if I've ever got beat that bad. That's what I knew I was like oh yeah Peyton probably had like 380 350, 380 Like 4 touchdowns Because I think Brandon Stokely had 2 Oh he had 377 See 5 touchdowns Marvin Harrison how many

40:37Shannon Sharpe:Marvin has 7 for 133 three and two touchdowns. Brandon Stokely might have had more than that. Brandon Stokely had four, 444 and two touchdowns. Oh, they cooked us.

40:53Shannon Sharpe:Hey, but I'm telling you what I did. I knew this was going to be my last game. I said, you know what? I might have never get another chance to shake Peyton's hand. Yeah. Dabbed him up. I was out. Yeah. Probably had like three. five for 31. Man, look here. And I ended up having to get two epidurals. Man, my back was so jacked up, Ocho and Joe. Well, your back was messed up from lifting heavy, huh? No, my back was messed up because I was getting old.

41:27Shannon Sharpe:That was my back was messed up. Nah, I slept wrong with something. And it just would not. It spasmed up. and it just would not let go. I mean, I don't know if anybody ever had back spathom, but it ran into my sciatica. Man. That sciatica ain't nothing to play with. I was driving like this here, Ocho. In sideways like that? But I didn't pick up something in the back and have to lay on the floor. Man, but I ended up having to have two epidurals for that. Hey, how you got rid of your cicadas? I got epidural. I had two epidurals. I ended up having to go to a doctor, and they injected me twice. First time, it didn't do because it had gotten so bad, and then they come back in there.

42:23Shannon Sharpe:They put you under that machine, pinpoint it. A big needle? Sciatica. I told you it's sciatica. Cicadias are an insect. that comes every so often. Sometimes you have a 17 year cicada, but a sciatic is a nerve. The sciatic, no, you said cicadius.

42:49Joe Johnson:Hey Joe, you had a sciatica.

42:54Chad Johnson:Nah, nah, nah, I ain't had Ocho, nah, nah. Yes. But I had a homeboy who had it and it would be times he couldn't even play. Like, you know, he walk in like he's just a sharp shooting pain down his leg.

43:09Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

43:10Chad Johnson:Yeah. He said he couldn't even play. Brown had it. Who had it?

43:15Shannon Sharpe:Brown missed all that time.

43:17Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Who?

43:18Shannon Sharpe:Brown missed 15 games to start the season with it.

43:21Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's what Brown had to start the season.

43:24Shannon Sharpe:This season, that's what it was? Yes.

43:26Chad Johnson:Yes. Hell no.

43:27Shannon Sharpe:When he was in Miami, he missed those two, three weeks. Yes. Man, that thing will tell you. Woo. Have you walking sideways?

43:40Chad Johnson:Ain't no words on that.

43:41Joe Johnson:I wonder what that's from. They got to be a reason.

43:45Shannon Sharpe:You have an impingement on a nerve. And sometimes you can't control body function. You pee on yourself, you poop on yourself. What? What? Yeah. Absolutely.

43:58Chad Johnson:That must be a severe case.

44:00Shannon Sharpe:Yes, yes.

44:02Chad Johnson:Damn. But you know what's funny is I have a lot of people who come to my yoga studio who have sciatica. And they come in there to put their heat on there. Heat it up, stretch it out. That's what you try to do.

44:18Shannon Sharpe:You try to open it up.

44:20Chad Johnson:Yeah.

44:20Shannon Sharpe:And that's why you try to keep your core tight. Yeah. Try to keep that, you know, keep it. Because everything, your body is like an automobile. And it works in unison. And when everything is working harmonious, everything goes good. But if the rear end, you get a flat tire and you keep driving around on that flat tire or you put the donut on there, you're only supposed to go X amount of miles on that donut. But you keep going and now all of a sudden it's going to mess up your front end. Then all of a sudden your rear end is going to be messed up. That's how your body functions. If everything is not an ankle or a knee or a hip, it's going to throw something out.

44:57And the next thing you know, you effed up.

45:00Chad Johnson:Got to take maintenance on that body, bro. You start overcompensating. Next thing you know, hell, you gonna hurt something else. Hey, Joe, you ain't send me the little vitamins you told me to take, right?

45:13Joe Johnson:Oh, you trying to get you some vitamins? I mean, y 'all, I mean, listen, I ain't never had no issues with my body or nothing, but I'm gonna test it out.

45:22Chad Johnson:Well, I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You seem to be doing pretty damn good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to beat it to the point just in case something creep up on me, Joe. Hey, how it go today? Then you have a... Hey, Joe.

45:34Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe. Hey, boy, your boy had eight today, boy. You had eight? Yeah, I had eight today. I don't know where the hell T found these goddamn hoopers from. Boy, everybody on the goddamn call 6867, boy.

45:47Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. How you talking about you had eight? You called me and told me you had 18, nine, and three.

45:52Joe Johnson:I said eight, nine, and three. It sound like 18. Shit, hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, T.T. Higgins must have played. He must have hooped in high school or something. He can play? Yeah. What? You know, T. by 6 '5". Yeah. They getting money? They getting money, boy. Hey, them dudes, it's dudes that they from overseas? Yeah. Dude flew in from China yesterday, Joe. Young boy flew in from China. Hey, them boys were getting the money. We played against, obviously, here in Knoxville. I'm assuming it's like an AAU team. and some of the players, you know, some going to Tennessee. Joe, it wasn't nobody on the court, maybe about three people, shorter than goddamn 6667.

46:38About three.

46:39Joe Johnson:And obviously, I'm one of them.

46:40Shannon Sharpe:Eight turnovers, three rebounds, Joe. Who? That's the 80 hand.

46:48Joe Johnson:Oh, man, come on. That's making up numbers, Joe. I mean, hey. Where the footage at? I ain't seen no footage.

46:55Shannon Sharpe:We making up numbers now.

46:56Joe Johnson:yeah i'm gonna tell i'm gonna tell t i'm gonna see with that thing i could let you be the only

47:00Shannon Sharpe:one making up numbers i'll make up my own too hey hey don't be don't be hating on my life

47:06Joe Johnson:send the video because you you you hit me earlier i hit you back but you ain't answer oh i would hit you when i was in front of everybody so they could tell you but i would i would get to the

47:15Shannon Sharpe:money on what i don't know that sounds suspect joe hey yeah i'm waiting for the footage i'm waiting

47:22Joe Johnson:And the last time I was a suspect, but I was in what, in 87?

47:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, we saw you at the big three all-star tournament. We tried that triple zero.

47:36Chad Johnson:Don't bring that up. Don't bring it up.

47:39Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, you were there, so you saw it.

47:41Chad Johnson:Nah, you know, I was hurt. I didn't even remember.

47:43Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that's right, that's right, Joe, my bad. You're right, you're right.

47:45Chad Johnson:Yeah, I watched it though.

47:47Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, don't worry about that. You know what you got coming, huh? What? Hey, today was a nice warm-up, boy. So now I got a different perspective on dudes that's that tall.

48:00Chad Johnson:Yeah.

48:01Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, that shit hard, boy, getting around that.

48:03Chad Johnson:Guess what? I'm going to give your ass another perspective. Yeah. I'm going to give you another damn perspective. Don't worry about it.

48:11Joe Johnson:Hey, I know I'll be on here talking trash, but it's a different ball game when you got somebody in front of you, 6 '8", 6 '7", and you want to get around that, boy? Man, listen here. Hey, but I had a hit a U-turn a few times. Hold on, I mean, how tall you think Joe is? Oh, I mean, in front of me, Joe, by six one. Okay.

48:33Chad Johnson:Don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. You gonna refresh your memory, Joe. I'm gonna make his ass respect me. You gonna, hey, you gonna keep my name out your damn mouth. That's what you gonna do. Hey, I'm gonna tell you something.

48:44Joe Johnson:The world gonna call me the ISO stopper, bud, when we done, bud.

48:46Shannon Sharpe:You hit me with the ISO stopper.

48:48Joe Johnson:The ISO stopper, bud. Man, please. No, Joe, but all jokes aside, it put the game just in general, because you know I don't play basketball, but being on that court with them damn trees like that. I already know. How in the hell Jalen Brunson and all these dudes that, you know, whether you play above the rim or not, but if you 6 '3 and under, how the hell you play with these dudes?

49:14Chad Johnson:hey you know them dudes them guys six three and under ocho they they know how to use their bodies you know hey when we talk with me you talk about football you know you you you a footwork guy you ain't really trying to let nobody get their hands on you you ain't trying to let nobody touch you oh no and in basketball you at your size you're gonna have to be a little physical you got to take some contact to be able to finish over them big guys it's just part of it yeah that's me

49:41Joe Johnson:That's me. That's me. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I had a good time. I had a good time. That was fun, though. Hey, you knew Knoxville was small? Tennessee? Yeah. Small, small little town, boy.

49:55Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it's a college town.

49:57Joe Johnson:Hey, people nice as hell, boy. People real nice. Copenhagen's Spit Free packs American-grown tobacco into pouches. Made from when your elbow's deep in an engine block. They're masked up. Torching deep cuts into stubborn pipes. Her helmet's on, riding deep into backcountry. When there's no time or space to spit, grab Copenhagen's spit-free pouches. Find them in stores today. Not all varieties available in all geographies. Warning, this product can cause mouth cancer.

50:32Hello, hello, this is Malcolm Glabal from Smart Talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pallard. head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari HP. Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari. I'm still working on rolling my R's. But what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age. Ferrari fans and superfans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team. You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history.

51:17And now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions. When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology and digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans. To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit ibm.com slash Ferrari.

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54:20Joe Johnson:Real nice.

54:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's a college town. Kelsey Plum, Florida, season high, 38 points. Erica Wheeler here. Go ahead, three-pointer. Go ahead, three-pointer. Late in the fourth quarter, the LA Sparks defeated the Las Vegas Aces 101-95. Las Vegas, the reigning WNBA champ, saw their four-game winning streak end. The Aces had won 20 of their last 21 regular season games after finishing the 2025 regular season on a 16-game winning streak. Man, I sure hate to see my girl go. KP, man, she's nice. That lefty, man, she be doing it. She be getting to the money.

54:57Chad Johnson:They had too many damn guards, huh?

55:00Shannon Sharpe:They did. Well, you know, you got Jackie, you got Chelsea. But Jackie, I don't know what's Jackie been on lately. I think this might be the second game Jackie's going scoreless.

55:12Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hold on, what's the new guard they got over there, that little light-skinned girl?

55:16Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Kennedy Carter. Oh, she'd be getting to it. Kennedy Carter like that.

55:20Chad Johnson:She been getting to it, boy.

55:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. I don't know why Chicago let her go. But, oh, yeah, she's been a godsend. Yeah, she let him in scoring. Perfect from the three-point line, Joe. Eight of 13. She had 23. Jewel Lord had 10. But Jack, I don't know what's going on with Jack. Hey, anybody know what's going on? Is she injured? Because I think Jackie, this might be the second game Jackie Young is going scoreless, or she might have had one point or two points the last game. Damn. She ain't herself. Asia gave you 24 and 15. Nalisa Smith gave you 22. Chelsea, Chelsea Gray, the point guard. She gave you 12, but I don't know what's going on with Jackie Young.

56:04Chad Johnson:Hold on. So the Carter girl, she been coming off the bench getting money like that?

56:12Shannon Sharpe:Okay. What'd you say, Ocho, Joe?

56:17Chad Johnson:The Carter girl, she been coming off the bench. I thought she was starting. She been coming off the bench the whole time? No, she coming off the bench, yeah. Ooh, she getting money, boy.

56:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what's up with - She was out of the league last year, right? Kennedy Carter she she fights you not Joe she get after you I think she had Dustin when they had the hard foul on Caitlin right she had the hard foul on Caitlin Clark and she went overseas she came back she's been a great pickup she lead all players off the bench this year in scoring hold on did they just get they said Jackie is dealing with a death in the family. So that's why her play has been a little subpar because she's phenomenal. And that's why I said that, is that because I'm looking at her numbers and I'm like, that ain't like her.

57:12Shannon Sharpe:She can defend. She can score the basketball. She's a phenomenal player. That explains it. She's got some things going on that's right now that's bigger than basketball that's impacting her play.

57:23Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, but if you Kelsey Plum, boy you loving you loving giving them girls hell though give them 38 your former team yeah yeah because i'm sure i'm sure she probably wanted to stay in vegas i mean they had a nice

57:36Shannon Sharpe:squad but but like you said joe i mean they're only she's the she's the she's the she's the she's the guy now yeah you know i'm just yeah yeah yeah she's the guy now when you got asia when you got Chelsea, you the third option. She said, I need to be a number one option. She can flat out scope because remember before Caitlin Clark broke her, she had the most points in women's college basketball history.

58:03Chad Johnson:She did.

58:04Shannon Sharpe:And that lefty, she can get to the money. She can get to it. She can shoot it. She can shoot the three ball. She got a nice midi. And you're talking about putting it on the floor and getting to the rim?

58:14Chad Johnson:Yeah.

58:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, absolutely.

58:16Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. I watched her play in the rival league when they were playing one-on-ones. Yeah. And she was getting money. Obviously, she didn't win it, but she held her own. Yeah, she's nice. Hey, Joe, you were just at a game recently, huh? Yeah, man. I went to watch the Dream. I took my daughter yesterday. We wanted to watch the Dream play. We left. We had to leave at halftime because the game came on right at halftime. I thought the Dream played at 6.30. Yeah. And I thought The Spurs and the Thunder was going to play at 8.30. So, that was a two-hour. I was like, two-hour. We'll probably leave mid-four quarter.

58:53Chad Johnson:Yeah. The Dream didn't play to 7.30, so we left at halftime. But they were kicking them girls' butt. The Dream kicked they butt. Yeah. Yeah.

59:01Shannon Sharpe:But, no, but Plum is unbelievable. I hated to see her go, too. I hated to see her go. And she got a great personality. She's awesome. You know, going to a game and talking to her and Chelsea after the game in Asia. It's just great to see them. They still got a good team now. They got a good team. I think they're going to be there. They're going to be there when it's all said and done. I think the Liberty. They got Sabali. They brought her over. Inescu's back. Stewie is Stewie. Jonquil coming off an injury. They're going to be where they need to be when it's all said and done. But I'm not overly concerned with the Aces.

59:40Shannon Sharpe:They're 4-2. The strange thing is that both of the games they've lost have been at home. Remember, they got blown out by the Mercury the first game. But I can understand that. They got the ring ceremony. All that bling in my eye. I can't see that. Y 'all go ahead and do what y 'all gonna do. But this game right here, y 'all know KP was gonna come back on a mission. KP was coming back on a mission and she got the job done. So congratulations KP, Sparks, but Aces, y 'all be back. Olivia Miles is an elite company to start her rookie season. The number two overall pick is the fifth player in WNBA history to average 15 points and five assists through her first six career games.

1:00:23Shannon Sharpe:Obviously, Kaitlyn Clark did it in 2024. Sabrina Inescu did it in 2020. Candice Parker did it in 2008. Candice Parker also was Defensive Player of the Year, and she was MVP in a rookie season. Sue Bird did it way back in 2002, and now Olivia Miles has done it. 15 points, 5 assists, 5 rebounds, 1.5 steals for the 4-2 Lynx, who are tied for the third in the league standing. She started out at Notre Dame, her and Hannah Hidalgo. She ends up transferring, I think, going to TCU. But, no, she's a phenomenal player. She can do it all. She's a triple-double waiting to happen.

1:01:06Chad Johnson:Hey, hold on. Ocho, you talking about a bop-bop. man, this girl here got some real game, bro.

1:01:12Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah.

1:01:13Chad Johnson:I'm talking about she got a real handle, Ocho. She can, hey, she's super crafty. I enjoy watching her play. I enjoy watching her play. What, she was at TCU or something?

1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:TCU, yeah.

1:01:23Chad Johnson:She started out at Notre Dame and ended up going to TCU, yes. Yeah, she, hey, I watched her get money, bro. She look good out there. I think when I watch, you know, whether it's men or women, I'm looking for, especially when you're a ball handler, are you comfortable under pressure? And, man, when I tell y 'all she got that thing on a string, that girl out there handling that route, getting to where she want to get to, she nice. She nice.

1:01:52Shannon Sharpe:But they beat the Lynx – excuse me, the Lynx beat the Sky 85-75. Carmela Cardoza led the way for the Sky 17 points. Skylar Diggins had 13. Gabrielle Hacquez, who's on the national championship team. She struggled a little bit today. One of four from the three, one of eight from the field. But, yeah, miles like that. They got a nice little squad. Yeah. They got a nice little squad. Minnesota does.

1:02:22Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, Minnesota do. They're going to be pretty good.

1:02:25Joe Johnson:I know it's early. Las Vegas won it last year, huh?

1:02:29Chad Johnson:Yes.

1:02:30Shannon Sharpe:And then the Liberty won it the year before. and then I think what you call them, win it back to back. Las Vegas, win it back to back.

1:02:40Joe Johnson:Las Vegas probably win it again this year, huh? They are.

1:02:46They got

1:02:47Chad Johnson:their work cut out. It's going to be tough.

1:02:51Shannon Sharpe:Everybody, you know, revamp, load it up. But when rubber needs to meet the road in a five-game series,

1:02:59Chad Johnson:it's going to be a seven-game series.

1:03:01Shannon Sharpe:I ain't taking nobody over Asia.

1:03:03Chad Johnson:No, no. Oh, no. Old lefty.

1:03:08Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe.

1:03:09Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

1:03:10Shannon Sharpe:Huh? Yeah, she lefty. What you call them? Kelsey, Plum lefty also. Yeah.

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