Nightcap Hour 2: LeBron ENJOYS Playing Game 7’s on ROAD + Jeremy Lin & Kobe Didn’t SPEAK for 5 MONTHS + Gil Areanas PRASIS Iso Joe + Pats RELEASE Stefon Diggs + Chiefs TRADE Trent McDuffie + Cardinals RELEASE Kyler Muarray

6:00Chad Johnson:that's why

6:02Joe Johnson:I hit him up man

6:04Chad Johnson:I'm gonna hit Drake over y 'all bro

6:06Shannon Sharpe:what about Jordan oh yeah but Jordan do less than anybody

6:12Joe Johnson:yeah MJ he don't really sit down like that either I'm just trying to think it's only a few people

6:22Shannon Sharpe:bring that I tell you who else can get some awards to give some views too who Travis Kelsey fiancee

6:32Joe Johnson:oh yeah yeah that's that's different yeah that that would be that would that would be a completely different different audience in general there you go see because uh like B and uh Hov they don't

6:45Shannon Sharpe:really they don't really do I mean oh absolutely not I mean for Hov to sit down he got to really and really, really trust you. Yeah, yeah, he's got it, yeah. And I don't know - Hey, that's my bands, bro.

6:57Chad Johnson:That's my bands. Y 'all want me to reach out the hole?

6:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, do it.

7:01Chad Johnson:All right, I got y 'all. Say that. Chill, Joe, chill. Y 'all think, y 'all think, because I've been hanging around Ocho, I'm lying and all that. Let me reach out.

7:09Joe Johnson:Hey, chill, chill, Joe, chill, chill, chill. Okay, all right. Chill.

7:16Shannon Sharpe:But no, the biggest game, it all, I mean, the thing is, I mean, like I said, being on the road. I mean, most of my playoff games, we've been on the road. We've won. Yeah. Obviously, the Super Bowl is a neutral location, but it's on the road. It ain't your building. It's not theirs, but it's still a road game. Even though it's a neutral location, it's on the road. So you figure three Super Bowls, two AFC Championship games, that's five, two divisional games, that's seven. So seven of 13 games that I've won, I've been on the road.

7:51Joe Johnson:Hey Joe you been in the playoffs before huh?

7:54Chad Johnson:Yeah a few times

7:55Joe Johnson:Damn man

7:57Chad Johnson:Oh you ain't never played in the playoffs

7:59Joe Johnson:Just twice Joe What happened? I only had two winning seasons in 13 years Joe Damn That's why I had to have so much fun So I wouldn't be mentally stressed Joe

8:11Chad Johnson:Right I get you Oh we gonna get bad We gonna reach out to Bad Bunny too

8:18Joe Johnson:Okay I know J Balvin I don't know if that's I mean I'm not sure how that compares to Bad Bunny he's still up there like that though

8:31Shannon Sharpe:Bad Bunny you see the thing Bad Bunny did 4 billion views the Super Bowl 4.1 billion damn that's why he was up there if he was like well I don't know why he was up there now you know now you know

8:53I mean

8:54Joe Johnson:and think about this this is the funny thing about it Super Bowl is in LA next year right now who in the hell can you get for Super Bowl next year that can top what Bad Bunny did Taylor ah

9:08Shannon Sharpe:don't think that's a good one she said you know hey her and Jay her and Jay Z and their teams are in constant communication that is the first call they make every year I promise you whether you like it or not or this or that I get all that I'm telling you right but I if she doesn't do it Ocho I don't know who you're going to get I don't I don't know but guess what I don't give a damn who they get I'm watching

9:44Chad Johnson:right

9:45Shannon Sharpe:hey he live there he out in Tarzana

9:52Joe Johnson:Tarzana what's that CB

9:57Chad Johnson:Craig Brown oh Matt

10:02Joe Johnson:I could text CB CB would do it I could text him too but dang

10:07Shannon Sharpe:we ain't got no pool with the Super Bowl yeah I could text him like hey bro can you come on can you give us five minutes on night camp hell I could text him too Yeah, yeah.

10:18Joe Johnson:He'll give us 10. He'll give us 10, Uncle. He'll give us 10. I taught, you see, y 'all don't even know, right? When I used to live in LA, Joe, you know?

10:29Chad Johnson:Yeah.

10:30Joe Johnson:You know, I used to be a crumper. I used to crump dance. You do all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I met Chris years ago. I was young. I was young. I don't joke. I had.

10:45Chad Johnson:You were trying to be a background dance or something?

10:47Joe Johnson:Nah, you know, birthday parties. Birthday parties.

10:51Chad Johnson:Oh, you like... Okay, I see what you got.

10:55Joe Johnson:Yeah, that's how I met Chris Brown years ago. This is when I was in LA. This is like back in... This is 97, 98. You know what I mean? Made me a little change, yo.

11:02Chad Johnson:Yeah.

11:03Joe Johnson:And then that's when after that, there wasn't enough money. That's when I went to the little stripping part of my life, you know? Oh. Yeah.

11:11Chad Johnson:Oh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

11:14Joe Johnson:Yeah. And you ain't know that, Joe? Nah, I ain't know. You used to strip and all that.

11:19Chad Johnson:Joe, I used to dance. I was dance from 98 to 99, Joe, at the Right Track in LA. So, like, they call you to, like, come do these birthday parties and stuff like that, and you come show out for the women? Sometimes. Back to the red parties.

11:30Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you ever heard of dancing bear parties? Yeah. Yeah, they used to call me. Yeah, I used to do those. You used to go show out? I used to do it at the Right Track. You know, my stage name was Twix. Was Twix? Yeah, because I was small and I had veins everywhere. Hey, Joe, I'm telling you, I had to make an honest living, Joe. I had to pay for books. I had to pay for tuition. I had to pay for classes.

11:55Chad Johnson:I mean, I had to make ends meet, Joe. They weren't giving no NIL back then. Oh, absolutely not. What's in on this, Joe?

12:05Shannon Sharpe:Could they see that? What that is?

12:11Chad Johnson:Jordan zooming in. He say breezy. He say breezy. He say he got breezy number, man. I don't got to lie. I do not have to lie about anything.

12:24Joe Johnson:Hey, who the most famous person in your phone? Hey, that's a good one. I don't have to lie.

12:29Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all lie to get attention. I don't have to lie. Hey, hey, hey, Joe.

12:35Joe Johnson:Not what y 'all saying now. Hey. Hey who the most Stating person in your phone Joe

12:42Chad Johnson:Probably Ice Cube

12:44Joe Johnson:Let me see Okay here go mine Hold on hold on Hey Joe Hold on let me see if y 'all can see this I'm blocking the number out

12:56Chad Johnson:Who

13:00DW

13:02Shannon Sharpe:You see it I'm assuming that's DW right

13:07Joe Johnson:damn how you make it zoom in you just ask to focus oh yeah denzel washington that's that's

13:15Chad Johnson:that's my that's my full my most famous person yeah yeah let's see i'm trying to think who else i got q snoop p i got snoop oh yeah ross what about um i'm talking about famous famous

13:39Joe Johnson:I had Kanye, but I don't know what that, I don't know what bruh be going through, man.

13:50Shannon Sharpe:I'll try to see.

13:53Chad Johnson:Why you laughing, Joe? Oh, shit. Hey, boy, you here.

14:02Chad Johnson:Damn.

14:07Joe Johnson:I'm trying to think.

14:08Shannon Sharpe:Every comedian that's been on my podcast.

14:15Joe Johnson:Oh, I know. Hey, I took Mr. Cook number. We was at Apple. Oh, Tim Cook? Yeah, does that count?

14:24Shannon Sharpe:No? Hell yeah, it counts.

14:25Joe Johnson:I ain't never bothered him.

14:27Shannon Sharpe:You like me.

14:29Joe Johnson:Yeah, I have a... Mainly, mainly, like, I just DM. I don't call him.

14:34Shannon Sharpe:I just DM him. And he's like, man, why don't you just call? Like, nah, bro, I don't want to bother you like that. I just, hey.

14:44Yeah.

14:47Shannon Sharpe:So we got a pretty good list. Jeremy Lin says he and Kobe went months without talking after confronting him about his leadership style. Let's take a listen to what Jeremy Lin had to say.

14:59Chad Johnson:he had he was he was upset at me um over something that i was actually trying to do but the coach was telling me not to do it and so he was like no no like don't follow him i was like no we gotta follow him right so kobe was like follow him i was like i know i'm trying to but i'm telling the coach and the coach will tell me don't foul so then i'm like i don't know what to do yeah so it ended up being something where he had he had given me really bad body language so i texted him this is and we couldn't like me and him like when we would lose we'd be up at like three four in the morning just not able to sleep just very competitive yeah so we we i texted him and i was like hey man like i really don't appreciate the body language and um and and so and he and he you know he came back with the shark response and then i went back at him but my but it ended it ended cordial where i ended up saying i was like i'm not saying that you can't teach me you're obviously like a hundred times the player i am i want to learn anything and everything i can from you i'm just asking can you just say you know and do it in a way that's like respectful to me as a man right yes and so he was like all right i got you and then he sent over a text with with some advice he's like let's start with this i was like i got you i'm gonna be focused on that i'll be working on this i'm thinking on this of exactly what you're saying i'm just trying get better i'm trying to help this team more we didn't speak for the next five months damn i know you already know where it's like yeah it was it was like for him it was and he even talked about because we we we patched it up later but he had talked about like he's not used to people challenging him and i wasn't challenging him like i'm better than you and i'm smarter than you i was only challenging him like hey can you teach me in a way that's a little bit more effective for me to process it's not versus not like talking down to me hey uncle joe kobe different man kobe different

17:00Joe Johnson:he's an animal he's a student of the game so i can understand it in a sense i've never played basketball today in my life especially at that level but from the outside looking in for the fruit interactions i've had with kobe and understanding i can totally see him and understand exactly what jeremy jeremy jeremy lynn had to go through that that's crazy and who else the only other person i could think that is probably like that as well would probably be michael jordan mentality the way they carry themselves you know they're not friendly at all and in anything anything that is combative to them in any situation where it has to do with

17:38Shannon Sharpe:basketball in general they see it as a challenge yeah you just have to look at everything and says whatever he says to me is not personal. You got to start with that premise. Because if you don't start with that premise, because the tone in which they talk to you, you're like, and what did he say? Can you give it to me in a way that is respectful to me as a man? At the end of the day, I understand you're Kobe. You're the black mamba. Yes. So let's not lose sight that I'm a man. So if that's the thing, you know what? He just tried to teach me it's not personal. Because, I mean, it's the tone in which they talk.

18:20Shannon Sharpe:Tone has a lot to do with it, though, Joe. Because, you know, like your mom or your grandma could, like, they say something and the tone lets you know the seriousness that they were dead ass.

18:30Chad Johnson:Yeah.

18:31Shannon Sharpe:You know, hey, my grandma famous thing, boy, don't make me hurt you.

18:37Chad Johnson:Right.

18:39Shannon Sharpe:Hey, if she ever uttered those words, you know granted was dead for real for real.

18:45Chad Johnson:Yes. Serious. And typically, the great ones, they don't even give a damn if you take it personal or not. Right. You know what I mean? Just 100. Like, they don't care nothing about that. Like he said, man, they ain't speak for five months. You think Kobe lost some sleep behind that? Right. No. Five months. Can you imagine? Can you imagine your teammate coming in, Ocho? He don't even speak to you, bro? Yeah. Because I've heard of this happening on numerous occasions. He ain't the first one to say this. Yeah. Yeah. The great ones don't care. They put in so much work, bro, to be who they are. They ain't trying to hear that.

19:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anybody on the team that would. Because normally they're going to break it up. Unless they're like just two supreme players. Obviously, you ride it out as long as you can. Because if you're winning, Ocho, the last thing, and Joe, you know this, the last thing you want to do is break up a winning formula. I don't know if y 'all got, were y 'all old enough to remember when Coke changed the formula? They went to this secret formula, they had another formula. And that old, yeah, Coke had another formula. This had to be like early 80s. Man, the people complained so much, they got rid of that formula.

20:01Shannon Sharpe:They said, oh hell no. But normally, if it's a formula that's working, I don't think there was anything wrong with the original Coke. But you know, you try some things and you know, and it didn't work. But I can see, and I agree with you, Joe. I can see this. Like Kobe, Kobe's trying to win. Damn your feelings when I'm trying to win. Right. Damn your feelings when I'm trying to win.

20:25Chad Johnson:He ain't studying that. As long as we win, we cool. We ain't winning. Yeah, I got an attitude.

20:33Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Remember I told you? Don't feed them. They don't win no games. Don't feed them. They don't do it out. They don't need to eat.

20:45Joe Johnson:They ain't earning. You got to earn your deal.

20:48Shannon Sharpe:But look, those great players, man, you got to pay. Everybody can't play with Kobe. Everybody couldn't play with Jordan. You can't. And you definitely can't take anything they say personal because it eats you up and then you end up wanting to come to blows with the man every day in practice. But you got to stand up for yourself. Because if you don't stand up for yourself, they'll run over you now.

21:16Chad Johnson:Yep.

21:17Shannon Sharpe:You got to stand up for yourself. Because at the end of the day, no matter how great you are, no matter how small I am, guess what I am? A man. A man. Yes. A man. Don't lose sight of that. and I might not have a wife and I might not have kids or anything like that but I'm still a man and so I told him okay we start with that and that man ain't speaking for me for five months

21:46Joe Johnson:that's how you know I seriously yeah for sure savage savage

21:55Shannon Sharpe:Joe you ever have a teammate to challenge you

21:59Chad Johnson:to challenge me He got one. Nah, not like what you saying, like in a confrontation or whatever? Nah, nah. Yeah, you got one natto. You don't even know what you, you don't even know what you setting yourself up for. You know, I'm one of them cats. You keep talking, the more you talk, the more you piss me off, okay? Joe, I don't care. Hey Joe, this me, all I do is talk.

22:28Joe Johnson:My career is built off talking shit. And you getting pissed off ain't gonna do nothing but make me play better, boy.

22:35Chad Johnson:That's what I do. And the more pissed off I am, the hell you gonna have to pay, boy. You don't even know it. That's fine. Joe, you gonna have to show me.

22:43Joe Johnson:I ain't got no problem doing that. You gonna have to show me and I know you not from Missouri. I ain't got no problem doing that. You gonna have to show me and I know you not from Missouri,

22:50Shannon Sharpe:my boy. I put that thing on Joe at the lawn club, Ocho. You remember? You remember he's feeling some type of way? What?

22:55Chad Johnson:Yes, I did. I remember. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. See, after that first game, then he threw the ball over there, talking about losers go first. Yeah, I took that to heart. I went berserk after that. I went berserk. I lost it.

23:12Hey, hey, hey, hey, you know how I'm going to get Joe.

23:15Joe Johnson:You know how I know he going to fold, right, under pressure?

23:18Chad Johnson:What's that?

23:19Joe Johnson:Because he ain't never had nobody in his ear like me, right? Yeah. And then he really going to fold when them cameras rolling. because when the cameras rolling that's when I show up. Then you just see what happened when the cameras was rolling in New York. Huh? Then you just see what happened when the cameras were rolling. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We doing stuff I've never done before.

23:38Chad Johnson:You see, you forgot. There you go. See what you started, Ocho.

23:41Shannon Sharpe:See, Ocho, see what I'm talking about.

23:45Chad Johnson:Every time y 'all forget, I'm going to remind you, okay? Now keep on if you want to, Ocho. I'm telling you, boy. See what I'm talking about, Ocho? Write some checks and start it. cash now.

23:54Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, I don't even write check because they gonna bounce. See what I'm talking about, Ocho?

23:59Chad Johnson:I'm just letting you know.

24:00Shannon Sharpe:Let him have. Ocho, let him have his moment. Let him have his moment.

24:03Chad Johnson:I try to be cool. I'm gonna let him have it. I try to be cool. I really don't even bring it up. But the people, you know what I'm saying? I already know they vouching for you, boy. Ocho, he ain't nothing but an instigator, bro. You go, hey, boy, I'm coming to Miami. I'm talking about when I come to Miami, partner, boy ain't gonna be nothing nice. You hear me? Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Where you want to play at?

24:23Joe Johnson:You want to play outside? You want to play inside? Because Pac can let us use the gym. Yeah, we going to the Miami Heat facility. Okay, yeah, they're going to let me use it. Yeah. They're going to let me use it. And we're going to have every camera on in there so we get every angle. I don't want to hear no excuses.

24:36Chad Johnson:Don't throw me with no good time, baby. I'm down for whatever.

24:38Joe Johnson:You hear me?

24:43Chad Johnson:Yeah.

24:44Shannon Sharpe:But Joe Dipper, that's all right, Joe. We're going to be back outside. This meal will be healthy.

24:51Chad Johnson:Oh, I already told y 'all If the last time y 'all seen me I was 60, 65 % This time I'm going to be 95 to 100 Man, y 'all ain't got a chance What that mean? Yeah What that mean?

25:03Joe Johnson:Okay You being 95 to 100 and I'm 95 to 100 You put your pants on one leg at a time just like me What you saying? Okay Alright What you saying? Okay Okay

25:16Shannon Sharpe:Gil had quite the praise for you, Joe, on Derek White's podcast. Take a listen to what he had to say. Who was it? I remember Joe Johnson. I'm working out with Joe. He was in Wizards. He was bringing people to work out, and I was in there with a workout, and I'm watching his mentor. I'm like, why does everybody see any special? I couldn't see it whatsoever when he got drafted. I think, what the hell is here? So I'm like, all right, you're on my hit list moving forward. Yeah, of course. So that's one of the reasons I kind of like don't like them because that draft process. When he went to Atlanta.

25:47Shannon Sharpe:I saw Joe. I saw Joe. I was like, I was sitting here like, how did they see this? Like, where was it the last four years? And it was weird because in Boston, he was like, yeah, I knew he wasn't good. When I seen them, like they put the ball in his hand, it became more like a point. I was like, oh, whoa, he's wicked. Really wicked. He had one of the most complicated shooting guard packages of our era. If I say one player I didn't read them well, it was probably Joe Johnson.

26:17Joe Johnson:Okay, it's some nice words, Joe.

26:20Chad Johnson:It's a good word. I appreciate Gil for that, but here's what I tell y 'all about that. I remember this like it was yesterday. We worked out for the Wizards. They had the number one pick. I know I ain't going number one. Okay, Ocho. Yeah. So you did Kwame's draft. Yeah, that was Kwame Brown. That was Kwame 1-1. They was looking for a big man. But the fact, you know, you're going to work out for the Wizards. MJ going to be there. MJ working us out, taking us through. So that was my first time getting a chance to meet MJ. So that's why that workout was so special. But I couldn't even tell y 'all what we did in the workout, bro.

26:52I ain't going to lie because I wasn't that engaged.

26:54Chad Johnson:Like, man, they got all these perimeter dudes in here. Ain't none of us going number one. Yeah, we just in here wasting their time. You knew they were going to take a big joke. Yeah, I knew they were taking a big. They had, I think they had Jay Stackhouse, MJ coming back, I think they had Rip Hamilton. I'm like, man, please. You're exactly right. Well, hold on. Who was the big they took? Kwame. Kwame Brown. He was nice, huh? Yeah, he was nice. He was a big boy out of high school.

27:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. 6 '11, could run, could do it. 6 '11? Straight out of high school, 18 years old. He was phenomenal. He was phenomenal. He just went to the wrong situation. He already had the wrong situation. You see, remember how we talked about Colby and Jordan and how they talk? Yes, sir. That was the situation he should have went to. They needed somebody 24, 25 years of age, not a kid. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Not a kid.

27:51Chad Johnson:I agree.

27:52Shannon Sharpe:And, you know, they didn't run plays for him. He's like, okay, you know, you want the ball, get it off the glass. Yeah. So, yeah.

28:01Joe Johnson:Damn. That's tough.

28:05Shannon Sharpe:Ocho Joe SGA pulled up the post game interview with one of the wildest fits of all time let's take a look at what SGA did

28:16Joe Johnson:what the hell

28:23Joe Johnson:SGA look like a Pomeranian

28:27Chad Johnson:SGA took style to a whole new level they took it to a whole new level Hey, you got to put some time into this. It's cold out there at OKC? No, they was in New York.

28:39Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah, it's cold out there. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, he might be the most, I don't want to say the most stylish. He's the most stylish streetwear fashion person probably in the NBA. You got other people that can dress, you know, but not street fashion. But when it comes to street fashion, I would assume he has the best style when it comes to streetwear.

29:02Chad Johnson:Yeah, when it comes to putting it on, hey, them boys be putting it on. Yeah. I was switch through shorty. Yeah. Yeah, I was switch through shorty, Ojo. I like to be comfortable, bro. Right, right, right. We're in a different era now. It's like a runway going to the games. When we walk into the game, it's like a runway now. It is. Yeah, it is.

29:23Shannon Sharpe:It absolutely is. It absolutely is. I mean, this is how guys are building their brand. You know, brands are trying to – And you see now, guys, more of these guys are going to fashion shows. You see them showing up at Louis Vuitton. You see them showing up at these fashion shows, Ocho. And you see Jetta and you see Chase and you see Joey B. And you see all these guys going to the fashion thing. Well, that was just a decade ago. That was unheard of.

29:49Chad Johnson:Right.

29:50Shannon Sharpe:Now, hell, every NBA player, not every, but a lot of them show up to these fashion shows. whether it's in Paris, whether it's in New York Fashion Week in New York, a lot of these guys show up and it's interesting to see. You know, everything ain't my style. You know, hey, you can wear it at 28, you can't wear it at 38, 48, 50. Hell, I'm about to be 58. I ain't never, look here.

30:15Chad Johnson:Hey, look, look. I enjoy it. I wouldn't wear a lot of the stuff, but I do enjoy watching those guys come in, you know, with their stuff on. Yes. I agree.

30:25Joe Johnson:You know I just thought about man Hey Uncle Joe Like Paris Fashion Week I should be a runway model You too big I look like one I could lose some weight

30:38Shannon Sharpe:Have you ever seen a real life one of those people Like really Yeah they real small

30:44Chad Johnson:You gotta eat cabbage everyday

30:47Joe Johnson:Alright my bad Yeah you gotta be 135 5. 140. Oh, no. Yeah.

30:57Shannon Sharpe:Your ribs gotta be showing. Yeah. After making a run to the Super Bowl, the New England Patriots and veteran wide receiver Stephon Diggs are parting ways. The Patriots have reportedly informed Diggs that he will be released at the start of the new year next week, just one year after he signed a three-year$69 million deal with the team. Damn.

31:22Chad Johnson:Hold on, Ocho. Yeah. I thought he'd done a great job in the locker room. Superb. I thought he was great being available when he played. Like, you know, he balled out. A good veteran president of the locker room. What's up? What's going on?

31:36Shannon Sharpe:I think the distractions off the field is too much for them. Now, all this, everything is an allegation. None of it has been comproved. But I just think he, for that, Ocho, you played in that organization. and even though the coach isn't there that coached you the principles still apply yes sir i think that i i for me personally i could be wrong i could be totally off but i think i just think the constant and that i think it just it's like no this is this is not what we're looking for

32:06Joe Johnson:probably too much i mean also that too obviously nfl most teams they're going younger too i mean i'm i think dig digs had a great season joe he had a thousand he had a thousand yard season uh He's going to get picked up. He's going to be somewhere else. I won't be surprised if he ends up in Baltimore. I'm just throwing it out there right now, being that that's not too far from not mistaking. He's from the DMV area. Yeah, he's from the DMV area, so don't be surprised if he ends up in Baltimore. Just know I said it first. And every time I say something on the show, for some reason, I'm always right, and it always happens.

32:38Joe Johnson:But that's neither here nor there. But he had a good season last night. A true leader. He played well.

32:45Shannon Sharpe:He did what they brought him there to do. I thought he did a great job. Look, I thought he did a great job of catching the ball. I thought he did a great job with Drake May. I thought he didn't have any bad mannerisms when he was on the field. He wasn't potting on the sideline. He wasn't loafing on the field. I loved everything. I loved everything about what he was doing on the field. Hey, whatever happened with his relationship, I don't care anything about that. I wish both of them the best. If they're together, stay together. If not, that's okay too. but I just think knowing the Patriots and that organization how they if it ain't football related they ain't trying to hear about it damn

33:26Chad Johnson:yeah he got some juice left though I know he does

33:30Shannon Sharpe:and you got to think about it so now he's going to get another year so he'll be two years removed Ocho from that ACL so he should become better better than he was this year I totally agree with that Chiefs trade Trent McDuffie to the Rams the Chiefs get the 2026 first round pick which is their pick because you know they have two first round picks they got one of those they got Atlanta's first round pick they get a 2026 fifth round pick a 2026 sixth round pick and a 2027 third round pick for Trent McDuffie services Ocho we talked about this remember we talked about this I said Ocho I'm not going to be surprised at all Hey, you was right.

34:12Shannon Sharpe:I'm not going to be surprised. You was right. Based on what they have, what they need, knowing they can't pay him. And the thing that I like about him, they asked him a couple of weeks ago or maybe a month ago, if he were to get traded, where would he like to go? He's a Cali kid. He said, I guess I'd like to go back to the Rams.

34:29Joe Johnson:Back home.

34:30Shannon Sharpe:Jerry and Steve, where did they turn him? Tennessee Titans. Got the big contract. That's one thing. You can say whatever you want to say about the Chiefs, but Andy and Brent, they do a great job. When you play and do what you're supposed to, they will try to put you in the best situation to help you considering what you've done to help them.

34:49Joe Johnson:That's a good thing. Most of the time, you don't have owners. You don't have head coaches that operate in that manner and understand the value that you bring. And that value that you do have, we can't reciprocate what you've earned to this date. But we appreciate your services. We're going to allow you to go somewhere else and continue to blossom. and we're going to do what we need to do and fill whatever areas we need to. And one of the reasons you know they can do some of the things that they do, Unk, because they got one of the best players in the game. One of the best players to ever play this game.

35:21Joe Johnson:You can make moves like this. But he can make up for the absence of not having a great DB like Mr. McDuffie is on the defensive side of the ball.

35:30Shannon Sharpe:They did that with Tyreek. Tyreek, they say you want to go to the Jazz or you want to go to Miami? Okay. We'll put you in Miami. So, and knowing what they need, Ocho, they don't, Ocho, what do they need, a$30 million corner in Kansas City? They got too many other needs. Other PDA. They got too many other needs. And so it just, it didn't come, it didn't come, you know, it became cost prohibitive. And, you know, obviously we got Mahomes. I think they still need a running back. They need a running back. A big time. They need a receiver. Big time. I still believe they need a big-time receiver. Those small guys, Ocho, they need a stud.

36:12Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead, Ocho. I have a question.

36:14Joe Johnson:What's the chances that Kansas City Chiefs pick at number nine, if I'm not mistaken? I think if Jeremiah Love is there, they take him. I'm going to say I would hope they climb up to go get him. You think he's going to be there at nine, Ocho? I don't know. Absolutely not. The thing is, Ocho, as a kid, you know the name, right? Yeah, boy.

36:35Shannon Sharpe:I need those picks, Ocho. I need those picks because I've neglected so long. Now I need to put pieces around Patrick Mahomes. Plus, he's coming off an injury, Ocho. Now, we don't know if he's going to be able to start the season. I know that's his goal. His goal is to be able to start the season. But what if that's not his goal in moving forward? Right. Could there be a situation he goes higher? Hell, Aston Gentry went sixth. Here's a guy that's more of a home run threat than Ashton Gentry, a power back. Now, Ashton Gentry, for a guy his size, he runs with great power, great leverage. He runs with power, yeah.

37:11Shannon Sharpe:But I love Jeremiah Love. I think that's what they need. But Kansas City just has too many holes to fill to pay a corner, to have a$30 million corner and a$30 million knee tackle. And you got Corloftus making a boatload of money. You just gave the middle linebacker a boatload of money. so I'm not surprised based on their recent history and what they need and what it was going to cost for them to keep him and you know that's what happens when you draft and they've done a great job of drafting Ocho at some point you can't pay everybody you just can't you're going to have to let it's the same thing with Willen you're going to have to let him go you're going to have to let him go and the only thing is is that you're not going to get compensation for it I mean you'll get compensation because he'll go and you'll get a third round pick but you can't trade him and get the value that you could got if you had his rights and traded him.

38:04Shannon Sharpe:Right. Because you got the new spoon. And you got JSN coming. And Amunwari is going to be up in a year, two years.

38:15Joe Johnson:Yeah. He nice.

38:17Shannon Sharpe:And we talked about this. I was like, look, if you're prioritizing, K9 is on the bottom of the list. because what he's going to want is top five, top three, top five running back money. If they don't view him as a top three, top five back, which would be in the$15 million range, 15, seven. They can't pay that. Thank you. Helping us win a Super Bowl. Congratulations on your Super Bowl MVP.

38:46Joe Johnson:I mean, Unc and Joe, there's tiers to everything. There are tier one running backs, and it's only a handful. now he's a very very very very good yes but is he in the same conversation with the saquons and the jameer john robinson the mccaffrey's no no he's not he's not yeah he's very very good he's very good though and that's okay and that's okay he he he parlayed it at the right time ocho

39:14Shannon Sharpe:i'm a free agent i go on this great run i win the super bowl mvp

39:24damn

39:25Shannon Sharpe:you can't ask for anything better than that Ocho you got Charbonneau and the thing is Ocho they always feel that they can get a back they feel they can get a back because the freshest of back is going to be Ocho when he coming out of college because think about it if you that back they're going to put 250-300 carries on your legs before you get another contract so you're talking about 250 to 300 you're going to get a thousand carries in your first three years and they don't

39:57Joe Johnson:you know how it is they don't value that position the way they once did they don't value it and you have to be extremely special for you to hold any kind of value at the running back position in this day and age in this past and era and to get multiple contracts at that running back spot oh it's hard hey joe it's hard joe it's hard i already know like like c-mac and derrick henry and uh who else has got multiple contracts at the running back

40:28Shannon Sharpe:position mcafree yeah i said c-mac first yeah um yeah that's it l a minute hey it's hard hey joe

40:37Joe Johnson:It's hard, boy.

40:41Shannon Sharpe:Well, there's some guy. The Cardinals have informed Kyler Murray that they intend to release him at the first day of the league year next Wednesday, barring a trade between now and then. Arizona already owes him almost$37 million in guarantee for 2026, and another 19 and a half would have been triggered on the 15th of March. He will now be moving on. Kyler took to social media to address the news. to everyone that supported me and showed kindness to my family and I during my time in Arizona from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. I wanted nothing more than to be the one to end the 77-year drought for this organization.

41:15Shannon Sharpe:I feel I'm sorry I failed us. I wish this community and my brothers nothing but the best. I'm no stranger to adversity. I'm prepared for whatever's next. I trust in God and my work ethic. I truly believe my best ball is in front of me, and I look forward to proving it. Godspeed.

41:37Shannon Sharpe:What you thinking, Ocho?

41:40Joe Johnson:Hey, I'm curious. I'm curious on the destinations that make sense for him. And a whole lot of places out there. I'm curious. Hey, Miami. It's a couple, though. Yes. Stay with me. Stay with me real quick, Uncle Joe. Miami, New York, or Minnesota.

41:55Chad Johnson:Yes.

41:57Joe Johnson:Now, those are the only three I can think of. The one that I would like him to go to the best, you know?

42:03Chad Johnson:Minnesota

42:03Joe Johnson:I would me personally Joe I would prefer a pocket passer in Minnesota because of all the weapons they have I would like Kyler maybe in New York or maybe in Miami that's just me I would prefer to see Kirk Cousins come back to Minnesota or maybe

42:28Chad Johnson:I don't want to see Kirk Cousins go back to Minnesota to Ocho.

42:33Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you got to see the numbers, Joe. You got to see one thing Kirk could do. Boy, he going to let that thing fly.

42:40Chad Johnson:Ocho, he going to have a few good games here and there, but come on, man. He ain't going to be the same Kirk. You know what I mean?

42:47Joe Johnson:I don't know. I don't know, Joe. But I just think from a passing standpoint, listen, Kyler Murray is very good. Very good. Very good dual threat quarterback. But I think it limits some of the things you can do when you have that kind of talent over there in minnesota when you have a mobile quarterback like that but the thing is oh he's not he's not he's not he's not your traditional drop back pass quarterback and i think with that offense what they have they need a traditional drop back pass quarterback like a aaron rogers or like a kirk cousins that can sling it you don't really need to do threat

43:22Shannon Sharpe:i don't know if you noticed though joe but uh malik willis is going to be available and he's going somewhere.

43:29Joe Johnson:Oh.

43:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey. He going to get his starting job? Yes. Hey, he going to the highest bidder. That's where he going. So Miami, Arizona.

43:39Chad Johnson:I can see him in Miami.

43:41Joe Johnson:Hey, Arizona would be a good one too for Malik. Hey, what's Wilson's first name? Mike Wilson?

43:47Shannon Sharpe:Yes, Michael Wilson.

43:48Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, boy, it's a young bull named Mike Wilson. He came out of nowhere.

43:54Chad Johnson:Yeah.

43:55Joe Johnson:I don't know if you've been around Joe he came out of nowhere that's about playing like true number one

44:04Chad Johnson:yeah

44:04Joe Johnson:oh my god boy he nice all year long Joe he making play after play after play

44:09Shannon Sharpe:now if they get Marvin Harrison Jr. up to speed they got Trey McBride best tight end in football so they got weapons they gotta redo the offensive line they gotta get better at the offensive line don't you They got to get better at that. Yeah.

44:28Joe Johnson:What do you think about Malik Willis coming down to Miami?

44:32Shannon Sharpe:I think Miami or Arizona.

44:37Joe Johnson:If I had a choice, I would pick Arizona. McBride, Marvin Harrison Jr., Mike Wilson.

44:43Shannon Sharpe:Yes, absolutely.

44:44Joe Johnson:I would too. Connors. Connors is coming back next year, I'm assuming.

44:49Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. Who got the head job in Arizona? Wasn't it the guy from Green Bay? Yeah, the other floor. Yeah, Ocho. Yeah. Where did he have success at? Green Bay. What type of offense did he run? Green Bay. The brother. Same thing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You see how that thing lines up in Arizona? Oh, he in Miami. No, no, no. LeFleur's in Miami, isn't he? Is he in Miami or Arizona? Because Willis is probably going where the other LeFleur brother went. Right. Or the Cardinals. He going to Arizona, Ocho.

45:22Chad Johnson:He going to Arizona, Ocho.

45:24Shannon Sharpe:He came from the Rams, yeah. But he knows that system because the systems are very similar. Okay.

45:34Yeah.

45:38So.

45:40Shannon Sharpe:All right, guys, we will get you here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. Hey.

45:55Shannon Sharpe:Before we get to our super chats, we've got some video voicemails from our Discord. This is something we've been wanting to do for years, so to make sure you join the Discord, submit a video voicemail for us to show. The first one comes from Jordan. Jordan, you're not supposed to be able to do this. Let's take a listen to what Jordan had to say.

46:16Chad Johnson:Nightcap fam, real quick, I just want to thank y 'all, Unk, Ocho, Iso, Joe, Ash, and the whole team for everything that y 'all do and for always bringing good vibes and laughter the streams real quick outro when you go pay uncle his money man stop playing with his money how about this when you and iso joe play if when iso joe beats you you got to pay uncle's 5900 and you got to go do yoga with iso joe and you if you somehow even score a point on iso joe you could try to convince him to go hunting or fishing with you even though we all know that won't happen much love guys yeah

46:47Shannon Sharpe:appreciate that Jordan appreciate that Jordan the next one comes from Augie let's take a listen to what he had to say

46:57Joe Johnson:KLC is such a great quarterback whisper the nine gotta be deaf right what did he say

47:06Chad Johnson:I don't know I'm lying

47:10Joe Johnson:KLC is such a great quarterback whisper the nine gotta be deaf right

47:17Shannon Sharpe:Right, for whatever reason, he can't stay healthy. In order for quarterbacks to get good, you have to be consistent. You have to stay on the field. He missed his entire rookie year, and then he played the first game. He brought him back against Chicago, and then he's hurt, and then he's out. He comes back, he gets hurt again. So he's going to have to build up some consistency, and right now he's being judged on what Sam Darnold did when he was there, and then Sam Darnold leaves and go win the Super Bowl. So that's the measuring stick, Coach O.

47:48Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah. That's the measuring stick. That's the bad part. Not only is that the measuring stick, that same quarterback went on to win the what? Super Bowl. Now it's even worse.

48:02Shannon Sharpe:No, that's not Jordan. No, you're over here laughing. No, that is not our Jordan. J, 1984. Oh, you ready for Saturday? I don't think Duke going to lose twice. Ocho was moving on that treadmill, homie. You got to run like that. Put that mask on by that 5 ,900. You right.

48:29Shannon Sharpe:Drew Jitsu. I saw you see Coach Richardson getting a statue was announced. Well-deserved. Do you still keep in touch by any chance? And Tex didn't stand a chance. Woo pig. Oh, long live the King. Best part in the game.

48:45Chad Johnson:Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, I did see that they're getting Coach Nolan Richardson a statue in front of Bud Walton Arena, which is in Fayetteville, Arkansas. I think it's dope, well-deserved. Man, he's done a lot for the state of Arkansas, bro. He's definitely one of the reasons, you know, I committed early to be a Razorback, so I'm happy for him.

49:08Shannon Sharpe:Oh. That is long. Uh, Gage Snedditor. Hey, Unc, Ocho, Iso, was wondering if you could send some thoughts and prayers to me and my family. We lost our grandmother, uh, this past week. It's been really hard. Thank you. Rest easy, Grandma. Yes, Gage, uh, our thoughts and prayers are from the Nightcap family, Unc, Joe, and, uh, Ocho. We definitely, definitely, our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family and loved ones and anyone that's been impacted by the sudden passing of your grandmother. just remember I know it's tough right now but just remember the great times that's what she would have wanted you to do John Doe Joe you think Kings tanking or they just trash

49:56Chad Johnson:no no they tanking they want that number one pick it's about time Sacramento they been on a drought for a long time okay Ocho you know I don't remember hearing nothing good about them since early 2000s with C. Webb and Mike Bibben.

50:11Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean?

50:12Chad Johnson:It's been a while.

50:13Shannon Sharpe:It's been a minute.

50:14Chad Johnson:I think De 'Aaron Fox and Sabonis, I think they may have got them to the playoff one year. I'm not sure though, but they didn't really make no noise since about the early 2000s.

50:25Shannon Sharpe:They traded Halliburton, and you see what he's done in Indy. They brought in Sabonis. Sabonis is people don't realize Sabonis is 7-1. He can triple-double, he can pass, he can rebound, he can score a little bit. but then you lose D. Fox. Yeah. So it's tough. You can't keep giving away. You can't keep losing your best players now.

50:49Chad Johnson:Y 'all know.

50:50Shannon Sharpe:TS Card-wise Detail Service. ISO tell us a story playing against Kobe Bean. ISO is Wade III's best shooting guard ever.

50:59Chad Johnson:Is Wade III? Yeah, I put him there. MJ Cole. I put Wade in there. Wade, Clyde, Drexler. What you gonna do with Harden? Harden, yeah.

51:11Shannon Sharpe:Because I asked Shump, and Shump took Wade over Harden at three.

51:17Chad Johnson:Yeah, I'm going to take Wade. I think Harden definitely top five, though. Okay, Ocho, I mean, we talking about two guards all the time, just even being a top five. Yeah, that's an accomplishment in itself.

51:29Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely.

51:31Chad Johnson:Ain't nobody going to do one in two spots. They sold up. Ain't nobody going to ever get those, Ocho.

51:38Shannon Sharpe:It's a wrap. Cupcake Mama, here you go. Hey, guys, follow up from a few shows ago. I'm looking good. I'm looking for good company conversation and someone to fish with. There you go. Hey, Uncle Fisherman, too, man. As long as you got the bait. I'm sure you guys out there, they looking to go fishing, too, Cupcake. I'm sure they're looking for fishing, too.

52:07Shannon Sharpe:But, look, you got to be clear what your intentions are. I mean, it's just hard for me to see a scenario, Cupcake Mama, that you got out of a relationship, and I think you were in a 10, 15-year relationship, marriage, excuse me, not a relationship, a marriage, and you're looking to get right back into one of those? No, don't do that. Don't do that, Cupcake. And I get it. I get it. You don't want to be, you know, people thinking that you don't. Because, you know, I know how people are. I know how people are going, ooh, she this and she that. and put thoughts in your head. But I would just take it slow.

52:40Chad Johnson:I would just take it slow. Enjoy yourself. Hey man, some people think the best way to move on is to replace. Oh Joe, they say the quickest way to get over one woman

52:52Shannon Sharpe:is have another one get up under you. A bunch, a bunch. That's what they say Joe.

52:56Chad Johnson:Hey.

52:57Joe Johnson:Hey. Most of the time.

52:59Shannon Sharpe:If you a good mechanic Joe, what you do? You slide up under one car and sooner you fix it, you slide up under another one.

53:06Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, matter of fact, hey, you know what? I just thought about Uncle Joe and chat. Speaking of mechanics, hey, Joe, I know you know this, Joe, boy, you don't know this, boy, Joe. I'm gonna make fun of you.

53:18Chad Johnson:Okay.

53:19Joe Johnson:How do you know a mechanic has a girlfriend, Joe? Hey, how do you know if a mechanic has a girlfriend?

53:25Chad Johnson:How do you know if a mechanic has a girlfriend?

53:27Joe Johnson:Yeah.

53:36Joe Johnson:something rich mechanic got a girlfriend spare parts yeah nope you wrong on you got one joe what you got uh by looking under a hood nope y 'all can see me yes yeah he'll and keep these two fingers clean okay take your time you got more time than you think uh uh i just don't want you to rush into

54:04Shannon Sharpe:anything but I don't but you got to realize guys are looking at you like well damn you just got a relationship and you want to get right back into another one and I don't there might be some guys out there that's looking for that but I just think you know just take your time you got time enjoy enjoy it you know go out we ain't saying you got to you know sleep with every guy that you go to the movies or go grab a bite to eat with but enjoy yourself get to know somebody

54:28Chad Johnson:some people have a hard time being lonely though they don't they don't like being by themselves Yeah,

54:34Shannon Sharpe:being lonely or being alone. Because you can be with somebody and still be alone. You can be with somebody and still be lonely. Yeah. I think sometimes people confuse the two. I got me somebody. Okay, yeah. You in a relationship, but he not. She's in a relationship, but you not. Hey. But that's never mind. Let's move on. Nate underscore burner. Hey, why you ain't shout out your alma mater, a baseball team. I heard Savannah State upset the Division II number one team in the country. Well done. I didn't know. But you know, we normally have a nice little stick in baseball. We used to be really, really good in baseball.

55:13Shannon Sharpe:But congratulations, Tigers, if that's the case. I didn't know. But if you did, congratulations. That's what we do. Swole underscore nerd. Oh, was hell when he was well. Once upon a time. Once upon a time. Boy, you know.

55:30Chad Johnson:57, 58.

55:31Shannon Sharpe:I'm good for Unk.

55:38Shannon Sharpe:Most 21 Music. Sup, Unk, Ocho, and Iso. Now Tim Hardaway says, Penny Grand Hill better than LeBron in their primes. Your thoughts. I guess it's open season to hate LeBron. Look, if you want to be on a podcast, if you want a trend, that's what the thing is. Ain't nobody. Nobody. Maybe Grant Hill, if he had stayed healthy and stayed on the trajectory that he was on, if Penny stays healthy and stays on the trajectory that he's on, but to say, come on now, we got to stop this. But I get it. You want a trend. You want to have something to say. Say, you know what, Grant Hill was – really? Really? Penny.

56:25Shannon Sharpe:and Penny was phenomenal but injuries robbed him of what they could have been Grant was phenomenal but injuries robbed him of what he could have been so in his prime first of all nobody's had a prime longer than LeBron LeBron had a prime for 21 years for 22 years basically yeah so let's just say for the sake of argument we're going to say from 2007 to 2020 so for 14 years man stop it

56:58Chad Johnson:nobody come close stop it

57:01Shannon Sharpe:so now we don't win from Jordan okay even if I believe LeBron is the GOAT I can see you say you know what Jordan's prime was higher than his let's just say for the sake of argument if you want to say Kobe stretch but we're going to say Grant Hill and Grant was phenomenal Penny but really you're talking about Lord have mercy

57:26Chad Johnson:they just trying they just trying to get clicks of light

57:30Shannon Sharpe:because if you notice if you want to trend it seems to be over the last 3, 4, 5 months it's been like this if you want to trend say something about Bron

57:44Shannon Sharpe:and I'm not saying Joe I'm old enough to remember all the guys Hell, I've been with Tim Hardaway. Tim Hardaway senior captain to the league.

57:57Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

57:58Shannon Sharpe:That's the luxury. See, that's the best part about being a little older. Because, see, they can't run no bull job on you. You mean? But to say that, come on now. Even if you are, say, you know what? I'm not a LeBron fan. Y 'all know this man's apex. Come on now. Come on now.

58:19Chad Johnson:Hey, they say that to get you boiling. They do. They know what gets you boiling.

58:26Shannon Sharpe:If you want to say, if you say, like I said, you say Jordan, you say Kobe, I'm like, all right. If y 'all want to say his prime, his peak prime was better than LeBron, I think LeBron's a better player. I do. But if you want to say that. But y 'all just arbitrarily throwing guys out there. I mean, at least guys that won Super Bowl, I mean, excuse me, won MVPs and finals MVPs and all NBA selections in the offense and all NBA, defensive teams, all NBA. Okay, okay. Come on now. We got to stop this foolishness now.

59:05Shannon Sharpe:T.S. Carwise details. Thoughts on Lou Holt's passing. Never had a chance to meet him. I know who he is.

59:18Shannon Sharpe:if I'm not mistaken, he was the Jets head coach in the 70s, Ocho.

59:23Chad Johnson:Little Holes? It was short-lived.

59:27Shannon Sharpe:I think he was in Arkansas too, Joe. But he's known for, y 'all know what he's known for.

59:34Chad Johnson:Notre Dame. And they ain't won one since, had it? Nope, 88. Who was the quarterback?

59:42Joe Johnson:I think Tony Rice was. Tony Rice.

59:46Shannon Sharpe:Because Tony played with me. He played with me in the East West Shrine game. And they had Ned Bolcar and Stonebreaker was the linebacker. And I played at the East West Shrine game with Ned Bolcar.

1:00:17Shannon Sharpe:it's Maddox King ISO can you take it easy on Ocho when he drops the donut and the one on one please I got one for y 'all fellas start bench drop NFL and NBA Randy Jerry T.O. JT. JB Antman you got to receive with Joe Ocho Randy Jerry and T.O. you got to start one you got to bench one you got to drop one

1:00:46Joe Johnson:I'm going T.O. Randy Jerry

1:00:47Shannon Sharpe:Hold on so you dropping Jerry Yeah I'm going T.O. Randy Jerry Okay alright Joe You got JT, JB, Ant-Man Start, bitch, drop

1:01:00Chad Johnson:I'm going Ant-Man, JB JT, Achilles I got that Gotta drop him huh Gotta drop him

1:01:12Chad Johnson:That's a no brainer for me

1:01:18Shannon Sharpe:the reformed pagan talking great players the niners have profited from height and old but superior talent who won with shanty uh while not investing in talent please tell the niner empire has our window closed in 27 nope now hell nah i mean you got to think about you lost your two best defensive players for the blind share of the year for the year, excuse me. Bosa and Warner. Purdy was out even though he played well. Kittle was in and out of the lineup. The receiver that you were counting on, Brandon Ayuk, he was in the lineup. Pearsall missed time.

1:02:00Chad Johnson:Hold on, so y 'all think when those dudes get healthy that the Niners gonna be back in the running? Absolutely.

1:02:05Joe Johnson:Oh, absolutely. With that coach? Yep. Yeah, Shanahan don't play, boy.

1:02:12Shannon Sharpe:Yep, I agree. Terrence G, what's up, guys? When's the NBA edition? Start, bench, trade, Sean Kemp, Antonio McDyce, Sharif Abdur Rahim.

1:02:23Joe Johnson:Ooh-wee. Hey, Sharif was nice, boy.

1:02:25Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. He from the Creole. But, boy, you know who was nice, but people don't remember?

1:02:33Chad Johnson:McDyce. Bad McDyce was... McDyce. McDyce was an animal.

1:02:38Shannon Sharpe:I was in Denver when he got there. Oh, shh.

1:02:44Chad Johnson:I played with McDyce. I played with McDyce in Phoenix now. He wasn't nothing like how he was in Denver. No, he had that knee injury, Joe.

1:02:52Shannon Sharpe:But you talking about jump out the gym?

1:02:54Chad Johnson:Oh my God. Woo, woo, woo, woo.

1:02:56Joe Johnson:And six, nine, six, 10. That boy can - And you talking about jump out the gym like young Blake Griffin? Yes, man. Like that kind of jump out the gym?

1:03:03Chad Johnson:That boy can go, he can go sit on the rim, old Joe. Yes. and cut up too.

1:03:09Shannon Sharpe:Alabama used to have some players. People don't realize Alabama used to have players. Robert Orr, Sprewell, McNice. Hey, Spre went there? Spre went to Alabama? Yeah. Goddamn Spre. What? Before him, they had Bobby Lee Hurt, Enos Watley. They used to have a squad down in Bama. I mean, you know, everybody know they're known for football. They've always had, since Coach Bryant, they've always had football players. But their basketball team used to be nice.

1:03:36Chad Johnson:Yeah, they keep some athletes over there now.

1:03:42Shannon Sharpe:JJ Carver, A, the Skip Madison Shannon Sharp reunion will get views kind of like Shaq and Kobe reunion.

1:03:50Shannon Sharpe:I don't think the gambling partners match up. So, I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with a reunion. I don't have a problem with Skip. What has happened has happened. I've moved on. I'm sure he's moved on. but I think we tried to put something together but it's kind of hard when they have a gambling partner, we have a gambling partner and so Dre Phillip how did you manage to steal Ash away from Fox and shout out to my brother Adrian back home he watches and loves the show it wasn't that hard I think she was ready to go I just told her, I mean, you know, from the very first time that I said if I ever got a show, I was going to take her.

1:04:39Shannon Sharpe:Because I saw how hard she worked. And I know that, I know what she was capable of doing, but sometimes people don't give you the opportunity. Remember I said sometimes you need an opportunity? They weren't going to give you the opportunity. And she knew that. It wasn't, you know, and after, you know, after I made an offer, they was like, okay, we'll do all this. She was like, well, y 'all doing this now because y 'all don't want me to go with him. Absolutely. But, you know, I didn't know what the hell I was going to do. I didn't have nothing. And I was like, hey, so I was just paying it out of my pocket until I find something to do.

1:05:08Shannon Sharpe:Because that's how much I believed in her. I know how hard she worked. She made sure I was prepared at every show. And even there's some things that I didn't, that we didn't talk about in our meetings or the night before, she would always have it on the card. I think this will be a great point here to counter. So it was a no-brainer for me. It was a no-brainer for me. and I'm glad she came. Sometimes she does get on my nerves though. Also some 82. I'm sorry, but unless Arizona fix their O-line, any quarterback will have a hard time playing well. We agree. Pappy Ray, 94-45. What's up, King? Iso, the game that you had 10 three-pointers made, did you have a feeling pregame that you were going to get hot from three?

1:06:00Chad Johnson:no I didn't I didn't have a feeling I'm gonna tell y 'all something I initially wasn't even gonna play in that game it was against Philly I remember like it was yesterday my lady at the time she was in the hospital getting ready to give birth to my daughter and uh I was in the hospital with her she was then uh she didn't want me to go play she wanted me to stay there with her I'm like man man I gotta let me go play in the game man so she ended up she ended up she ended let me go play in the game bro and i was i was just hot that night i left the game went right back to the hospital she's looking at me like really you go out there

1:06:39Shannon Sharpe:the crayons here they should let the goat uh of my generation molly cyrus do the halftime show

1:06:48Joe Johnson:oh joe yeah i mean my my my cool man they got a good following huh she's been a little controversial over the years but you know she's not you know she's still hot now huge following

1:07:06Shannon Sharpe:I didn't end what's up love the show but y 'all need to start introducing ISO as the reigning defending nightcap champ to put some respect on tonight that ain't happening he already getting

1:07:18Chad Johnson:fellas fellas fellas y 'all just relax But, man, the people, they voicing their opinions on what they think should happen, man. Just listen. Hey,

1:07:28Joe Johnson:sometimes people's opinions be wrong, Joe. Just hear them out. At least hear them out. I heard it.

1:07:32Shannon Sharpe:I read it out. That's all we did. I read it out. I heard it.

1:07:35Joe Johnson:I heard it. I heard it. It went in one ear, not the other.

1:07:40Shannon Sharpe:Varys 117, what's up, Ocho King? All right, so hypothetically speaking, if the Lakers win a championship this year and Bron is finals MVP, does he get a statue? Yeah. two championships two finals MVPs absolutely what

1:08:00Shannon Sharpe:Rich McKinley great show tonight thank you for the shout out the other day after my surgery praying for your surgery goes well and wishing you a speedy recovery thank you thank you thank you appreciate that that concludes this episode of Nightcap we want to thank Mr. Tendonism Mr. Walter Johnson for joining us tonight we greatly greatly appreciate that and wherever he shows up, guys, let's make sure we go support whatever he's doing. We greatly appreciate that. Please make sure y 'all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and make sure you go subscribe to the Night Cow Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from.

1:08:36Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite of them. That is my partner and co-host. That is the bingo ring of fame, Arturi, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And the third member of the big three, University of Arkansas alum seven time NBA all-star University of Arkansas y 'all know him ISO Joe Johnson Ocho tell the chat about your new episode dropping tomorrow on the podcast The Late Run

1:09:01Joe Johnson:hey listen hey chat do me a small favor when you get a chance follow The Late Run on Instagram follow The Late Run on Twitter my soccer podcast with Rahimovich my very good friend my co-host tomorrow we have Rick Ross episodes dropping tomorrow morning at nine o 'clock, if I'm not mistaken. So may check it out. We got a bunch of great episodes leading up to the World Cup, all things soccer related. For those of you in the chat that watch and love soccer and have a passion about it, for it, like I do. Even if you don't, please come and support, subscribe, and follow. And yeah, that's pretty much it.

1:09:42Joe Johnson:Episode with Rick Ross dropping tomorrow morning.

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1:10:15Shannon Sharpe:he really enjoyed his time on. So hopefully you guys enjoyed that. We look forward to seeing you back again tomorrow night. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. He's Aiso. Peace.

1:10:52I'm out.