Nightcap - Hour 2: LIVE from WrestleMania Radio Row: CM Punk, Jey Uso & MORE join

23:39Yes. Yes. But that's the hard part for a lot of people, aren't you? I think so. It is. That's the hard part. I think so. Having to do the same thing over and over, it is boring in general. It is. And unless you want to be great and understand the sacrifice that it takes to be great, you have to love doing the same thing over and over and over until you get to a point where you don't make the same mistakes. But not even that. Like for me, I've been in this for so like I say so long, but it just feels like as a woman, because like this is a whole nother topic. But like men don't reach their prime till they're 40 in the business, I feel like where it's like a different standard.

24:19So I really hope that like I feel like I'm just I'm forever in my prime. um but

24:30it's the not relying on what you've done in the business you have to continue to move forward to stay with the because there's the company's ever evolving storylines are ever changing you have to evolve you have to evolve okay i see that's another thing yes like you have to pay attention to that too because you can't be like, and I probably was guilty of this a couple years ago because I was so scared to change the robes or the gear or whatever, and those are minimal things, but I can't rely on the fact that, hey, I did 32, 33, 34, 135, main event at 35, done 37. You can't rely on that. Cool, that's a great resume, but if you want your resume to continue and make...

25:12Shannon Sharpe:What do we say, Ocho? Update your resume. Every time. Update your resume. You got to. And people don't understand that. Like, well, I understand what he did, but that was last year. What about right now? Well, like, if someone last year was like, oh, we're going to put you in a tag team and you're going to go into Mania in a tag team, I'd be like, no, I'm not. I'm not a tag team wrestler. I'm an individual player. That added to my resume. It's going to add to my career, and it only added to the stock of Charlotte Flair with Alexa Bliss. Yes. Like, you have to update it. Whether you can't be, like, you have to be, don't get me wrong, it was so hard.

25:43Like, my stylist is over here when he was like, you got to change this. You got not, like, update. Right. Because you get, like. Because as an individual, you look at a certain way, but now you got a partner. So it's kind of like y 'all kind of need to blend. I mean. No, we're, like, we're super popular because we're the odd couple. Like, she's goth. I'm. You're not goth. No, not goth. No, no, no. So, like, we're just completely different. How did that work? Because I asked Lash and Nia, I was like, and she's like, you know, sometimes as you get a little older, you've been in this business a while, they'll allow you to pick.

26:22But for most time and not, they're like, we think you guys will be great together. How did this? Oh, no, this was hard to get us together. She was pitching. Oh, she was pitching. So I had just lost WrestleMania last year. Yes. And they didn't know what to do with my career. Like, it was kind of like we didn't know what to do. Or creative didn't know what to do. Whatever. Right. and she kept pitching like, hey, I want a story with Charlotte Flair. I want a story with Charlotte because we'd had history in the past, but not like long-term storytelling. But because we had real moments in our personal lives together, when she first started and I first started, she was going to use that as part of the story where like she was bullied a lot.

27:05Like there was some bullying going on when she first started. And not that we were close, but she'd be like, hey, I knew Charlotte was there. whatever, like respect, because we'd always kept the respect. Yes. So she was going to use that to tie into the story for us to end up turning on each other to get back to those stories because we were always against each other. But it ended up working better together because we were so different. So where, like, I could kind of take the piss out of Charlotte being so arrogant and then, like, her character calming that down. Like, the dynamic was funny. But also, like you said, when Naya said tag teams, Sometimes you use tag teams to, like, lift up the other opponent.

27:43Yeah. Where, like, Lexi's a stud in her own.

27:46Shannon Sharpe:Right. I'm a stud in my own. So then you see two not having to. Right. Where they're just like, oh, okay. Right. Yeah. Does that. Yes. But the thing is, as long as you're still a part of the story. Yes. Is when they stop making stories about you that when you need to worry. And they're still creating stories. Oh, I'm not. I know. They're still creating stories about you. And like you said, you're a standalone, but you're a great partner also. I love the part. It's been fun. 14-time Women's World Champ, Charlotte Flair. Charlotte, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks, guys. Go.

28:34Hold on. Can I just take one? Right. Right.

28:43Sorry. Where are you? Right here. Did that be? He's my dad.

28:59Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

29:12Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

29:29Shannon Sharpe:Gentlemen. See you. What's up, bro? How you doing, bro? Good to see you. Pardon the seat. Good to see you. How are you? Pleasure. Y 'all see you, dude. Yes, you right there. He's a seven-time world champion and WWE champion for 434 days from 2011 to 2013. A two-time Money in the Bank winner. One-time world champ. Many appearances. He's seven. He's three and four with seven appearances. WrestleMania 42 heavyweight title match against the tribal Roman Reigns. Yes, sir. Ooh, that's a lot. It's good to see you, gentlemen. How are we doing today? Beautiful. Doing amazing. How are you doing? I've never been better.

30:04Never been better? No, never. Wow. I got my belt. My wife's here. Okay. Main event of WrestleMania. Right. Some people say blessed. I just say I'm fortunate. I'm overflowing with gratitude. I'm stealing that. Stoked to be here trying to get this microphone to work. You guys can hear me okay? I'm just going to leave it right there.

30:22Shannon Sharpe:All right, great. 42 against Roman Reigns. Yeah. I mean, bro, you were the champ way back when. You were a seven-time world champ, WWE champion. What is this opportunity? What does this mean for CM Punk? I'm the kind of captain of the ship right now. Okay. And any time you're in there with a star the caliber of Roman Reigns, it's a proving ground. I don't know if he would admit the same, but it's the same thing. This is iron sharpens iron. I'm the current measuring stick. He's been that in the past. So you really kind of can't wait to see who comes out on top and what happens, and I can't wait to see either.

31:04You know, like, I'm looking forward to this. This is going to be fun. Go ahead. You got one more.

31:10Shannon Sharpe:When I'm looking at you, and look, I don't bring up because my other guys say he ain't really fond of you. You know, Seth, he ain't really fond of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're not going to bring up that. I mean, what if they'd put you two guys in a WrestleMania 42 against each other? I mean, kind of the same thing. I don't think Roman likes me either. You know, like, but the same. Okay. So who likes you? This ain't the friend business. This is the wrestling business. Okay. Pardon my language. I don't give a shit who likes me. You know what I mean? I go in there to do my job. This is what it is.

31:45When you lined up, did you care who was friends with you on the opposite side? Absolutely not. And you might have had friends on another team, but hey. You didn't particularly care about friends on your own team, let alone somebody on the other damn team. We didn't win games. When that whistle blows and you're in between those lines, Friends, friend or not, family or not, I don't like you. You either apologize before or after. Right. Sometimes both. Yeah. Does this feel like validation or unfinished business? To me, just getting here is validation.

32:17Shannon Sharpe:Right. You know, it's playing in the Super Bowl. You know, like, oh, I have to, as a human being and as a man, take the moment to stop and smell those flowers. Yes. look around and go, man, I'm here. I'm here talking to you two guys. It's cool. There's levels and the fact that I've been in the game this long and I'm still climbing ladders and I'm still reaching new heights and different levels. It's all new experiences to me and it's one big adventure and I'm enjoying the ride. When you talk about those ladders, you talk about those heights and what you've accomplished so far, has it been everything you thought it would be before you even started?

32:57Because we all have a vision. We all have goals that we set out to do when we try to achieve anything in our respective crafts. Yeah. In this craft of wrestling, has it been everything you thought it would be? It's everything and more, plus way more hard work. Mm. You know? Like, you got to be prepared to run through a wall on a daily basis. Right. You know? And, oh, you're not going to sleep, and you're going to fly to another country, and then you're going to hit the ground running and do media, and then you're wrestling, and then you're on a bus. I mean everything about it is difficult uh but to me it just makes it that much more worth it you know like it makes it sounds really really corny I'm supposed to sit up here and say you know something brother I'm gonna walk in there and I'm gonna knock down the walls and I'm gonna poke them in the eye and I'm gonna but this all just makes I mean so look at this right here yes WWE 2k26 I'm gonna cover the video game for the second time right I am so fortunate to be afforded these what are what amount to once in a lifetime opportunities right and i've got to do them numerous times it's like i'm living more than one life i just overflowing with the gratitude like guy across the ring from me hates me he wants to talk trash about me i love it i i i just i i'm in the pocket right like you cannot rattle me this is all this is all fun for me like even getting punched in the face even getting powerbombed through a table waking up the next morning and not rebounding like I did when I was 26 years old.

34:27I love it. I'm like, this is exactly where I need to be, on top. What keeps you motivated? After everything you just named, after reading your accolades and your resume, to date, being on the cover. Yeah. Two times. Yeah. What still gets you up and keeps you motivated to keep going? I think it's, I'm partially crazy. I'll always say There's There's talent here But this is far less about the talent It's about the obsession I've been obsessed with this Since I was a little kid And that has carried me through And now I find myself in a position Where Probably more than half the men and women On the crew On a daily basis say Hey we grew up watching you And to me, as corny as it sounds, maybe I feel like I have a responsibility to kind of not tell them what to do, but to show them.

35:28And I'm not always right. And some people don't like me. I got a big mouth. But to lead by example, that's something that motivates me. The fans motivate me. They carry me through. It's like a wave. I'm a surfer. I'm just riding the wave. There's so many things that still motivate me. The fact that I'm 47, I want to get up. I've never been 47 in X amount of days. I want to be the best 47 in X amount of days I can be. When I turn 48, like who's done it at this level at 48? Okay, well, that's the bar I set. I need to get there.

36:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I've talked to a lot of wrestlers, and I've talked to a lot of wrestlers, and they always said it was the one my grandfather or my uncle took me to a match, and I said, that's what I want to do. Yeah. When did that light go on? When did that switch flip for you? Do you say, you know what, that's what I want to do? You know, I think I watched wrestling on accident probably for the first time, and it was because it was on network television. I think I was trying to sneak staying up late, and the only thing on TV Saturday night was Saturday Night Live. Right. And then one day it wasn't on. What the hell is this?

36:36And I'm watching Saturday Night's main event, you know? And I think just watching how big that was and the spectacle of it all.

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40:05I attribute it to a lot like how I discovered punk rock. I heard the Ramones or the Clash for the first time, and I was just like, man, what is this? This is so great. I need more of this. And then you get into it, and you read the lyrics, and you read the liner notes, and you see they thank this band, and then you go out to a record store. And, like, that's all gone now. So I discovered it on accident, and, man, look at me now.

40:31Shannon Sharpe:Rank these in a list that you hate most or least. You got the Packers, the Cardinals, the Red Wings, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns. This is hard. I feel like most of my life I have known about the existence of the Packers and the Red Wings and the Cardinals. Thankfully, for a much shorter amount of time, I have known about the existence of a Roman Reigns and a Seth Rollins. Okay. But, man, that hate burns bright. The hate burns bright. I got to say Red Wings, number one with a bullet. Okay. Because I'm not putting Roman or Seth at number one on anything. just cause you know what i mean yes like yeah i'll say they're a distant four and five they can share a spot together because they're both goofs of equal proportion uh cardinals number two packers number three okay yeah how did you do you did uh did uh vince or did they give you that name because you say you had a love of punk rock you like the ramones and so i understand cm punk so Well, how did you come up with the name CM Punk?

41:47So when I went and got trained, I was wrestling in the backyard. I was 15 years old. I was CM Punk. Okay. That's always been your time. Yes, because Punk was my nickname. Okay. You know what I mean? Like, I was a little punk kid. Okay. You know, the older parents, you little punk, you know? Yeah. And instead, like, to me, I was like, how is that insulting? Like, I wore that like a badge. Right. I was proud of that. but when it came time to quote unquote go pro you know i find a training school i get brought in the right way broken in and i'm trying to come up with a cool code name you know what i mean and my trainers looked at me and they're like what are you doing you're punk just be punk right and i was like oh okay i thought maybe i had to kind of leave that leave that behind and then when i signed with wwe i thought for sure that's it they're gonna change it yeah because we do that sometimes we change people's names and I thought I was going to be an astronaut or, you know what I'm saying?

42:40Like, I didn't know what they were going to do with me. And somehow I made it to television as CM Punk. Yeah. Uh, you know, like, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm just fortunate that way. As we get older, remember in our twenties, even in our early thirties, we're able to do something, whatever it may be and do it back to back, back to back and get up. The body recovers right away. as we get older, in our 40s. The body doesn't respond the way it used to. Has retirement ever crossed your mind at any point? Or is that obsession for what you do and that craft still there where retirement is not even a thought at this point?

43:15No, I can't say that it hasn't crossed my mind. Right. Because, you know, I've had fans say, hey, we need you to dye your beard. Well, why? This is me, and I think I look good. Right. You know, like, this is it. You know how long I have existed. You know how old I am. I don't want to look like a guy trying to look younger. I don't want to have the shoe polish in my beard like Seth or Roman. I want the face and the hair to look like a guy that's 47 years old. Not a 27-year-old or a 35-year-old. Because what a shame would it be if I was 47 years old and then I wasn't covered in scars. That is not a life lived.

43:55This is it right here. Maybe this is because of stress. Maybe this is just something happens when you get 47. I don't know. It's crossed my mind, the retirement thing. But, you know, hey, knock on wood. I feel like I'm operating at a very high level still. I'm still telling the same stories. People still invested. People are going to be going crazy Sunday night. I'm in the main event. I got to be doing something right. Yes, sir. Why stop now? I also know it could end like that. Yes. So I'm not trying to plan anything. I just watched my friends AJ Styles and John Cena retire. Yeah. So, yeah, it looms.

44:32It's on my mind, but not anytime soon. I like it.

44:36Shannon Sharpe:Roman Reigns has made it clear he doesn't respect your past or your comeback. Yeah. Damn. I can say, okay, you did leave for a little while, you come back. But, damn, he don't respect the past or the comeback. He don't respect nothing. I don't know what to tell you. Like, I get it. Like, I'd probably hate me, too. You know what I mean? He's upset that, you know, after being away, you come back and you got the title. You got the belt. Yeah. Like, nah, hell nah. Not supposed to happen. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's got his opportunity to snatch it. Yeah. That's what it's about. It's just two guys who don't like each other.

45:16Going to get to punching each other in the face.

45:19Shannon Sharpe:I like it. So when you were away from the WWE for those two and a half years, what did you do? Oh, I did a whole bunch of stuff. I did some movies. I wrote comic books, fought in the UFC. I got married, focused on my marriage, my relationship, and my wife. You focused on you. I did. Yeah, I did whatever I wanted. It was great. I ate whatever I wanted. Right. You know? Is this life hard on a relationship because you travel so much? Bro, you're on the road 200, 250 days a year. I got married in 2014 after I left. Okay. You know? Yeah. That was by design, I'm assuming. And it wasn't, it wasn't. Like, whether I stayed or I went, I was getting married.

45:59But I did always think this life is remarkably hard, especially for people who were married or had kids. I did the bulk of my career just single, not a care in the world, no responsibility to anybody else but the wrestlers on the crew, and I devoted my life to it. Again, it goes back to that obsession. Like, I didn't have to split time or split focus, and the fruits of my labor were the success I got from that focus. But yeah, I left at the right time. I got married at the right time. Now my wife's back and we get to enjoy working together and it's really been amazing.

46:39Shannon Sharpe:Do you notice a difference between when you were first here in the retirement and post-retirement? Do you notice anything different? Oh, I mean, the entire system's completely different. But I also feel I'm so different. I've grown up in a lot of ways A lot of things that I would hold on to You know, like If you're angry about something that happened in the past Or you hold a grudge You know, you're holding on to this hot coal And after a while Seven years You realize, like, what? I'm only hurting myself You know? One of the greatest quotes I've ever heard is People don't think about you as much as you think they do You know?

47:21True So just focus on you Not really worried about other stuff And just kind of shed some baggage That helped me be able to come back Just let stuff go I had problems with people And to me what it amounts to Is bad communication on both sides And then your pride gets in the way So to be able to function here In this system now Where we're working a lot less than we used to Which helps But also just hey if I got a problem with you Let's just talk about it. Let's have a conversation.

47:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You going to troll? Because that was a nice little troll job you did. Which one? With Seth and Becky. For what? What do you mean? What did I do? What did I do? Everything. Okay. My man. My man. Hey. Appreciate everything you've been able to do. Thank you. Congratulations on the belt. I appreciate you. Definitely going to watch this match on Sunday. Good. I'm going to beat that ass. and have fun doing it and look good doing it. All right. Thank you, man.

48:27I'm getting old.

48:34Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Love what you guys do. Thank you. Love the voice you guys have. Appreciate you. Thanks for stopping by. Thank you for having me.

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49:45Shannon Sharpe:Very special guest joining us now. He's a one-time world heavyweight champion, a 10-time tag team champion, one-time intercontinental champ, 11 of Mania appearances. He's a 6-5, defeated Gunther, the last Mania to become heavyweight champ. WrestleMania 42, six-man tag team match, L.A. Night, The Usos versus IsoSpeed, Logan Paul, Austin Theory, The Vision. What's up, bro? Hey, appreciate the intro. Yes. All good? We're beautiful. Yes, sir. Bro, bro, what happened with Cameron this morning? He tried you, bro. Man, I know he going to see this. Man. U's respect is everything. Yeah. I mean, I don't know U's.

50:34I like, I was respectful. We're likable people. I felt like we, we, I just felt. That was bonding. I felt, no, we wasn't U's. As soon as I, soon as I. To the man. First off, U's, I met him. He was on the damn motor damn wheelchair. Right. I'm like, what's wrong with you? You know, the vibe was a little off, man. And maybe, you know, I still got love for Cameron and the podcast, Mace, all that, man. But it was, man, I just told him a couple times, man, just be respectful, man. He wasn't being respectful. So I had to, you know, he had to feel that. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

51:11Shannon Sharpe:Killer. Hey, I think a great matchup would probably be you and Ocho in the ring. I like that. Man. I like that. Can I just, Ocho, can you just, like, be my manager, Oosa? Okay, okay, okay. So you just get on this microphone and talk that talk. Okay, I got you. And you let me, you know, walk that walk. Let you do what you do. Okay. And he do that. Yeah, unless Ocho got some tighties with some baby oil, we're going to get it right. We can get some. Man, I know you got a 12-pack under there. Come on, man. Because I need to look. The man owed me$50 now. Actually, he owed me Lem. He owed me Lem bands.

51:46Who? Ocho. So I need you to get it back for me. You ran that up, Ocho. I get my$20 back. You see what I mean? Paul's on you.

51:59Shannon Sharpe:Hey, do you feel your title run was a little short? You wish you could have extended it a little, you know? Man, of course, Unk. Man, I always want to. Man, I'm going to run it back, though, Unk. I like the first round. Man, that was like getting my feet wet. It was cool. Man, the second go around, I'm – You can hold that thing for a minute. Yeah, I thought the Yeet run was lit, man. I'm ready, man. I'm ready, man. I got my family out here still fighting, man, but we over here making money this weekend, so that's all that counts. See, Yeet. Hey, has wrestling been everything you thought it would be?

52:30I've asked everyone that's been up here, right, because everybody's journey, everybody's process getting to this big stage has always been different. And the excitement, the energy, the charisma, the personality that you have and you bring to the sport and the game, it's infectious, you know? Has it been everything you thought it would be to this point? Man, and more, Ocho. Yes, sir. And more. Because I appreciate it because I know I just did a signing. I just did a signing two hours long at Walmart. It was lying around the block. There was a moment, Ocho, where the block for two hours, only like 10 minutes of people show up, you know, and then we just sit there the rest of the hour and a half.

53:07But it's so different now, man. I'm just, I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful, man. The hard work's finally paying off. Like, y 'all know all about it. Man, all that sacrifice is finally, I'm seeing the payoff. Yes. So I appreciate the hustle.

53:21Shannon Sharpe:And I think sometimes the sacrifice, when you're sacrificing and it doesn't happen overnight. Yeah. So I think the thing is, we look for instant gratification. We look for things, I mean, you look at, that's what the microwave is for. That's why we play lottery tickets. Instead of working hard, we want to say, hey, I picked the right numbers and I'm wealthy instantaneously. to go through the process of what you had to go through to finally make it to this stage and to become a world champion. How gratifying, satisfying was that for you? Man, just full of gratitude, man. Because, like, I promise, man, I always, I came in wrestling thinking me and my twin brother were just going to be the best tag team ever.

53:59I never had thoughts of splitting. I never had thoughts of doing the singles. None of that. It just morphed in what it was. and, man, I took, I made sure I would not waste my opportunity. And shout out to the little homies in here trying to get in this wrestling game. Now, he just said it. It ain't no sprint. It's a marathon. You know, you want to wrestle as long as Rey Mysterio. I want to wrestle as long as Randy Orton. Them boys is pushing 50 and they look, come on, man. Yeah, words of Nipsey Hussle, though, man. It's a marathon.

54:31Shannon Sharpe:You've been everything to Roman Reigns. And we had Jacob up here earlier and he was talking about. Damn, how'd that go? It was amazing. That's a real one. Yeah. He amazing. Shout out to the World War. Hey, bro, I mean, the respect that he gave the Uso and your father and the Rock and his grandfather and fathers, and you guys are a very, very close-knit community. And to see what you guys have been able to accomplish in this sport, it's seemingly like more and so more than the Tongans are coming into this sport. What does that mean to you, to see people that look like you You come from a similar background as you that's been able to benefit and be fruitful in this sport.

55:08Man, it makes my heart happy because I've seen what Jacob went through. I've seen what Solo went through. Don't nobody know they're real stories. And I've seen how hard they came just to get here. Yeah. And they're not – we're taking over, man. We're not wasting this time, man. It's different, man. We're trying to set an example. And this too, the bloodline is deep, man. I got cousins ready. Yeah. I'm talking about 15 years old, who's 6 '5", 300 pounds. 6 '5". 6 '5", Ocho. Hey, hand in the dirt. You said 15? Yes, sir. Like 12, 15 of them ready to go. Girls and guys. Girls in our family is about as big as the guys, man.

55:49But I'm really excited to see how it go. But, man, I'm joyful, man, because I do get to work with my family. And it don't feel like a job because we're around each other all the time, man. So I'm blessed to have that with me. Yeah, that's dope.

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1:00:30Yeah. Mark Henry's it. I guess he a DJ now. Is he? Yeah. World's strongest DJ. Something. Yeah, no, he can move some weight now. But for someone, I mean, you're talking about he was weighed over 400 pounds and could dunk a basketball. He was athletic out of the union. Yeah. I mean, he was a world champion powerlifter. Then he transitioned to weightlifting. Had the American, I don't know if he still has it, but the super heavyweight, the snatch, grip. Oh, do you remember, I don't know if you saw it, when they locked the cage and they forgot to cut it so he could just snatch it like one time. And it took him like seven, eight minutes.

1:01:09But a chain that was locked, he snatched it. He kept snatching it, and he snatched it off. That's real. Yeah, it was real, yeah. That is real. Because they were supposed to cut the lock. Yeah. But they forgot to. Uh-huh. But he had to snatch it off because or it wouldn't. They're like, well. There's footage. It's on TV. It was on TV. That joker just cut. And he snatched it off.

1:01:33Shannon Sharpe:you had that mark so so what's next so what what do you hope what are you hoping for what what can we fake from jay man i'm gonna just keep killing it on i'm uh i'm gonna just i'm gonna just stay present a lot man that's what i've been focusing on right like man because i'm always we're all of us are always on the next thing what's next what's next what's next yeah we move fast man i I finally just started to even learn how to be present, man. Took me this long, but I'm here. And just be grateful, man, with the family, man. We got everybody flying into Vegas this weekend. Yeah, it's about to be lit.

1:02:13Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. You posted something. Yeah, she's mine. Who yours?

1:02:24Man, y 'all know. No comment. Nah, nah, nah. You're talking it. Do I got to say it, though? I mean, y 'all see? She the baddest one down there. Where?

1:02:35Which way? Up. Coming from heaven. Come on now, give me that now.

1:02:45Shannon Sharpe:You played linebacker at the University of West Alabama. Yes, sir. So, who would you compare your game to, NFL player? Who you compare your game to? Man, to be honest, me and my brother did get down in some football. Like, come on. 52, Ray Lewis. Ray? Come on, man. That's my – I got him. Was that real? I got him. I told you that was real. You really told me. Hey, once you mic'd up, you know, that whistle blow is real. But it's the thing. He didn't make the play. I lost, but he didn't make the tackle. That's all that matters. It's your job, Uss. You did your assignment. That's it. That's all I can do.

1:03:28Yeah. Uss, Troy Palamalu is my favorite. Yeah. Sean Taylor, my favorite. Ooh. R.I.P. Ed Reed. You know, I drive back to safety sometimes. So, you know. But, yeah, man, Florida boy is up.

1:03:41Shannon Sharpe:Did you have dream, aspirations of playing NFL football? Yes, sir. Man, yes. That was the first, of course. That was your first love. Yeah. Man, I miss it. Like, I dream, man. I miss it, though. But, man, like, wrestling is, like, the closest I can do. next to a grown man job. Yeah. Right. It's the same feels. So, same energy. To walk out there, because you're walking out into an arena, you play football, you're in front of 50, somewhere between 50, 70, 80 ,000. You walk out there into these arenas, you got 20, 30, 40, 50 ,000 fans yelling, screaming your name. You get that same adrenaline rush.

1:04:15You get queasy. Your stomach gets queasy. The goose bumps. The hair stand up on the back of your neck. You make that walk. You're walking out of the tunnel just like you're running. You feeling it too? Yeah. Ocho used to have that drip too, bro. I used to see you out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like it though, man. No, I'm excited. Damn. You ain't even talking to y 'all there, man. Like, man, they told me I was coming back, bro. I was excited.

1:04:40Shannon Sharpe:Man, we're excited. We're excited to have you because, you know, look, what you've been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time. Yeah, you know, we joking like, okay, you had a short reign, but your time is going to circle back. It's coming back. And when it does come back, just be ready. Just be ready for that moment. Don't take anything for granted. You realize how long it took you to get here, but you also realize how fleeting it could be. And I think that's the thing that people, you enjoy the process, you understand, because a lot of times when people just watch you on television or they come, all they see is the destination.

1:05:15Shannon Sharpe:A lot of times people don't see the journey. That's the thing that you got to enjoy, is the journey to get to the destination. And, you know, sometimes you take a detour. Sometimes you have a flat. Sometimes you have to have somebody tow your car in because, you know, things happen. But you just got to stay focused. You got to stay on this, hey, so you know what? Hey, I'm delayed temporarily. I'm just delayed. I'm not deterred. I appreciate that. I really appreciate that, man. Words from my OG, man, like hearing it from you and my dad, it hits different. You know, need OGs around me, though. Appreciate it.

1:05:51Appreciate you, bro.

1:05:52Shannon Sharpe:Thank you very much. Yeah, man. Ah, yo. Thanks, bitch. Ah. Y 'all get right to it, too. For sure. Yeah, for sure.

1:06:12Thank you. Thank you, bro. Thank you. I love this. I'm good to see you, baby. Love.

1:06:22Shannon Sharpe:Man, this thing been jazzed. Hey. Oh, yeah. I want to, I think, hey, you know what I think? What you thinking? I think I should wrestle. I think you could do it. No, just one. I can make it happen. Just one. You think so? Yeah. How are we going to do it, though? Now, how are we going to do it and who am I to wrestle?

1:06:41Who you can wrestle? Yeah. We'll make it work. I think so.

1:06:45Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, I can be Bobby the Brain Heenan. I can be Paul Heyman. I can be Virgil. You remember Virgil used to be the guy with Ted DiBiase. Yeah. I can be something like that. I can get it hype. Yeah, I think we could do that because the funny thing about it is, remember we talked about it takes more than just being an athlete to be a master. Yes. Now, we talk about going into character. Yes. Yes, you got to be able to sell it. Being able to sell. What can I do? You can sell it. I can sell water to a whale. You hear me? Okay. Yeah, man. I could talk a cat out of the goddamn fish market, huh?

1:07:18But hey, put me in that atmosphere. I will give the people what they want. I'd probably be a fan favorite.

1:07:23Shannon Sharpe:We got two professional talkers. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, look here. I talked to Rooster into paying 50 bucks an hour to get the fox to guard the hen house. Paid him 50 bucks an hour. I ain't never heard that one. I like that. So we definitely can make something happen. I like that. I like that. Hey, we get a – I don't know if we're going to get Triple H this time around, but we definitely – when we get Taker, we get Taker tomorrow. We definitely go, hey, let's make this happen, man. That was a good one. But this – Hey, hold on. Me, Undertaker? No, no, no, no. Taker, he helps, you know, train people and stuff like that.

1:07:58Shannon Sharpe:But I'm just saying, he'll be my trainer. Yeah, he definitely can train you. Okay. But, you know, he got the pipeline that can, hey, talk to Triple H and make this thing happen. I like it. So, oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but this has been unbelievable. I mean, we've been nonstop.

1:08:22Shannon Sharpe:Wow. You want to break him up? Okay, come on. We got a very, very special guest joining us today. My love coaching. Professional bull rider, John Kramer. How's everything? It was beautiful, baby. How you doing, man? Nice to meet you guys. Nice to meet you also. Thanks for having me. I don't know if you guys know this, but he's a two-time reigning PBR team's MVP, currently ranked number one in the world standings. And he looks like he's about 16, but he happens to be 20 years of age. How you doing, bro? I'm doing good, man. This is awesome. Thank you for joining us. I mean, how does a kid grow up and say, you know what?

1:08:59Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to play football. I want to play basketball. I don't want to play baseball. I don't want to do soccer. I don't want to drive NASCAR. You know what? I want to get on the back of a damn near 1 ,700, 1 ,800-pound bull, and I want to try to stay on his damn back for eight seconds. Hold on. Not only do that, but be the best at doing it. Shoot. You know, anything we do in life, we try to be the best at it. So I've worked at it my whole life, and my dad rode bulls. And growing up watching him, you know, that was my superhero. That was the guy I looked up to, and I was like, man, I want to be better than him, so I want to go ride bulls.

1:09:30Wow.

1:09:31Shannon Sharpe:I like it. Did you do anything else? Did you do calf roping? Did you do, you know, saddling? No, sir, just strictly bull riding. And I played a little bit of football growing up in high school, and I think that kind of helped my mentality in a way too. I want to ride bulls still. I've seen you ride bulls before. I rode blue before a while ago, but I want to get back into it. I want to get into streaming and showing a different side of my life, showing the crazy side of my life where I'm willing to do and try anything. And obviously I think bull riding is something that I can get back into because the adrenaline rush.

1:10:03I can't get that kind of a dream. I can't. Obviously, it's scary. And the outcome, you don't know what can happen. And I like situations that are unpredictable. You know what? If I die, I die. It is what it is. Yes, sir. But I got to get on a ranked bull again. You need to. Give me a bull that you think I should ride next. We can dang sure hook it up, man. Seriously? Yeah, we'll do it. We know we come back here in November for the team's finals. We ride in T-Mobile. I feel like that would be a good experience. What bull? What bull? I'm going to be right there What do you want? Do you want the best of the best?

1:10:37I want the best of the best My dream was riding Bushwacker That was my dream I wanted to get on Bushwacker So I could tell my kids Your daddy got on the back of Bushwacker You weren't going to be able to tell him

1:10:50Shannon Sharpe:I ought to tell him You don't go back to the last eight seconds? No, your jaw would have been wide shut

1:10:58That would have been pretty cool That would have been fun Bushwacker, yellow jacket Do you want to get on bull? E.T. E.T. To honor. You want to get on bull now? Oh, hell no. Hell no. I'm the crazy one out of the two. I'm willing to do anything once. I can see that. You like that.

1:11:13Shannon Sharpe:This next question is brought to you by Tommy John. Comfort is the new power move. What's the most, what's the rankings bull that you've been able to get on? So, last year during the team's finals here in T-Mobile, I got on the best bull in the world called Man Hater. Man Hater, yeah. You wrote him? Yeah, I was 92 points on him here. Yes, sir. Yo, he crazy. Wow. Yes, sir. That was my favorite ride of all time for sure. That's dope. That's dope. Is he a Char-Bray? Is he a cross between the Char-Lay and the Brahmin or is he a Taurus? You know, that bull, nowadays the breeding, it's evolved so much.

1:11:49Yeah, yeah.

1:11:49Shannon Sharpe:It's all artificial now. Yes, sir. So you can get way different stuff now. Like the Char-Lay, the stuff that was back in the day. Yeah, the Char-Lay because they wanted a big muscular bull. Exactly. And then you wanted a Brahmin that could have survived extreme conditions. Yes, sir. Yeah. He was mean. Now, Hunt wasn't back there for nothing. Yeah, I know. It's crazy how it is now. Like, it's evolved so much. Like, they have the AI stuff, like, where they can get embryos and stuff. It's like, they're bred to do that. They're bred to buck. So, like, the Charolais stuff now is more using for breeding and cows and stuff.

1:12:22Like, just black Angus cows. Just not to buck, though.

1:12:25Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah. So, they're trying to do beef cattle now with the Charolais. Yeah, sir. You're such a big and you got the angles. Yes, sir. Okay, I see exactly what you say, black and red. How do I practice to ride a bull? Because before I rode Deja Blue, I forgot what year that was, in Duluth, Georgia, Ty Murray was my coach. Yes, sir. But the only thing Ty Murray could do with me was put me on the back of the mechanical bull. And the mechanical bull was so easy because I had leverage to like to raise my legs. Yes, sir. I'm like, Ty, are you sure this is what it's going to be like? And Ty looked at me and smiled and said, not quite.

1:12:58So I didn't understand what not quite meant until I got in the chute. How many days did you train for? Two. Two days. See, if you do it next time, I feel like you should go learn the fundamentals first. Right. Learn everything about how just the simple stuff that you could get. Then you go get on the caliber of bull where you can feel you riding the bull. Right. You feel it. You feel eight seconds. Then you keep going and evolving and evolving. And that's how I feel like a lot of people nowadays, they'll just go and want to hop on. At the top. Right, right, right. I wouldn't recommend that. I just go learn fundamentals.

1:13:36Learn it from the right guy. Then get on the right caliber of bull. Once you dominate that one, go to the next one. Dominate that one, go to the next one. See, I like that, but I don't know if we're going to have the time. Shoot. We don't need to have time. We got you. Okay. I got you. Yes, sir. Let's go. Hey, Chad, I'm going to be a professional bull rider. Give me some time.

1:13:55Shannon Sharpe:When you get on one of those bulls, what is it like to feel that power? Because you're on his back, and he knows something is back there that shouldn't be on his damn back. And he's in that chute, and he's huffing and puffing like, bro, one of us got to go, and it ain't going to be me. Shoot, I mean, the feeling, it's an unexplainable feeling to me. It's like I feel 10 foot tall and bulletproof when I'm hopping off of one, you know, that I know, gosh dang, that's the real deal right there. Like, man-hater. I rode to him, and, you know, the whole time before, I was just like, you're nervous, but it's moments we dream of.

1:14:33That's what I dreamed of ever since I was a little kid, of being in those bright lights and riding that type of caliber of bull. So on top of him, you're just kind of nervous, but it's like slow motion, basically, in a way. It's crazy. It's an unexplainable feeling. I don't know how to explain it too well. Do you study bulls? Because a lot of times, bulls have a pattern. Some of them will come straight out and, hey, they diving and they coming back. Some are spinning to the left. Some are spinning to the right. Some are spinning and then come back. Yes, sir. So do you study bulls? Do you try to have an idea?

1:15:03Because, like, athletes, we watch tape. Yes, sir. Do you watch tape on bulls? So I do. Actually, that's one thing I do like watching is I don't technically see which way they turn. I technically see the way they buck, if they're fast, if they have a lot up and down. I just want to see the way I'm supposed to just ride them. I kind of visualize it in a way how I'm supposed to ride this bull. A lot of bulls or a lot of guys will try to study bulls in a way of the direction. Yes. I wouldn't recommend that just because bull's an animal. You don't know what it's going to be. He's unpredictable. He's like, you know what?

1:15:34I don't want to go right. I'm going left today. I've had that happen a lot of times where a bull 100 % of the times goes left. I get on him, goes right. Yeah. And now I'm screwed. Yeah.

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