Nightcap Hour 2: Magic BLOW CLOSE OUT Game vs Pistons + Raptors SURVIVE Late Scare From Cavs + Max Kellerman Says Jokic IS NOT a Top 10 NBA Player of ALL TIME + Malik Willis EXPOSED on Marlins’ FIRST PITCH + Anthony Richardson SEARCHING for WEST COAST System

11:16Chad Johnson:But you in disbelief. Trust and believe. That's crazy.

11:22Shannon Sharpe:But you know what, Joe? Ocho, sometimes when people try to bury you, they plant you in fertile soil. Mm. You gotta be careful. That's a good one. Yeah. You gotta be careful. And JB, and I saw him on the side of the show, the close-up. He said, come on, hey, we okay, just keep playing. I said, keep playing, bro, you down 24.

11:46Shannon Sharpe:And I be down. Blue cool, blue cool, hey. Right back there. Hey, Duncan Robinson, Mr. Rattie hit a couple of those threes. Tobias Harris hit a three. Cade hit a three. And then he come down and get an and one.

11:59Chad Johnson:Uh-oh. Hey. Okay, how you cut it? How you cut it or slice it? 19 points and a half, fellas? Unacceptable. Come on, man. You – something has to really, really – the bottom got to really fall out. It did that for Orlando tonight.

12:19Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you do realize the Rockets scored eight points in the fourth quarter, right?

12:23Chad Johnson:Tonight? Yeah. Oh, did they? I didn't realize that.

12:28Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah.

12:31Chad Johnson:Yeah. Damn.

12:32Shannon Sharpe:They had eight points in the fourth, Joe.

12:34Chad Johnson:Damn. Yeah.

12:37Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, they might have, how many points? They might not score, but like low 20s?

12:42Chad Johnson:In the second half?

12:42Shannon Sharpe:But they have 23, 24 points in the second half?

12:49Chad Johnson:Well, yeah. Let's see.

12:55Shannon Sharpe:Because the Lakers, I scored them in the four, 31 to three, 31-8. How many points did they score in the second half? How many points did the, what you call players score in the second half?

13:03Chad Johnson:They ain't got to have a 78 point.

13:06Shannon Sharpe:They scored 47? So they only scored 8 points in the 4th? So where did they get the 31-8 from? In the 4th quarter, the Rockets. Let me see.

13:18Chad Johnson:Yeah, no, the Rockets scored 24 in the 3rd and 23 in the 4th.

13:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, where did I get that 8 from?

13:25Chad Johnson:They scored 13 in the 2nd quarter and 18 in the 4th.

13:29Shannon Sharpe:The Magic only scored 8 in the 4th? Yeah.

13:31Chad Johnson:So is the Magic that scored eight in the fourth? Yeah.

13:35Shannon Sharpe:No, I thought the Rockets scored.

13:37Chad Johnson:Nah, yeah, yeah, the Mavs only scored eight, they scored 11 in the third and eight in the fourth.

13:43Shannon Sharpe:Lord, have mercy.

13:44Chad Johnson:Mm.

13:45Shannon Sharpe:Who scored 11?

13:48Chad Johnson:Who scored 11?

13:49Shannon Sharpe:Orlando scored 11 in the third. I bet I drank no more, Joe. I better put, hey, Joe, I better put this down. I'll put it down.

14:04Shannon Sharpe:I want to know who scored 11. As a matter of fact, who scored the 8?

14:09Chad Johnson:I think they were some free throws if you just want me to be 100.

14:13Shannon Sharpe:Well, they only made one field goal in the fourth. It was one for 20 in the fourth.

14:20Chad Johnson:That's crazy. Hey, man, that's pressure there, bro. I don't know what else to tell you for the bottom to fall out like that in the postseason, at home, game six, knowing that, you know, hell, this was your game seven for real, it was a tough one. Yeah.

14:42Shannon Sharpe:I mean, and you saw the fans at the end of the game, Joe, they was like this here, Joe. Oh, man. Shaking their head. Hey.

14:49Chad Johnson:But how did we lose this? How did... Hey, but you're right. It is. It's almost like a carbon copy of that Falcons game, in that first half. You seen how the fans were so enthused. They were so into the game. The players high-fiving. They having a good time. And they must have exhaled at halftime. Boy, they threw a dud.

15:13Shannon Sharpe:Magic scored. They scored 11. They only had three more than what they had in the fourth. They scored 11 in the third quarter.

15:20Chad Johnson:Yeah. Damn. That's crazy.

15:23Shannon Sharpe:What did you call them going on? A 45-15 run? I think the Magic went on like a 45-15 run

15:31Chad Johnson:because hey you know Detroit only scored 12 points in that second quarter Detroit and they returned the favor in the third and in the fourth damn I don't know how you do that fellas I honestly do not know how that happened I understand maybe one or two played but everybody being off Uncle Joe at the same time at that? That's what I'm telling you. That's why it's so rare, bro. You never see nothing like this.

16:06Shannon Sharpe:You know one of the guys that I've been impressed with, really, really impressed with is Tobias Harris because the way he's playing for Detroit, he never played like that for Philly. Philly would have won that series against y 'all, Joe, if he'd played like this. He couldn't buy a basket either. The people killed Ben Simmons. Yeah, yeah. But Tobias was on the max contract and he was -

16:34Chad Johnson:Yeah, he was the highest paid player on that team, if I ain't mistaken.

16:38Shannon Sharpe:He was bad too.

16:39Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

16:41Shannon Sharpe:He couldn't shoot up? He couldn't do anything.

16:44Chad Johnson:He, you know what it is? I think he had a, I don't know why, but he had a problem playing next to Embiid for whatever reason.

16:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

16:54Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? and with Ben Simmons not being a scorer or a shooter, you don't really have to guard him. Yeah, so you don't really have that much space to where guys can create and create different opportunities for you. But here in Detroit, if he ain't played, if these last three games the way he's played without Tobias Harris, they're not winning. They're not winning. Hell, they only had three guys in double figures.

17:22Shannon Sharpe:Yep. Him, Duncan Robinson, and Cade. And I tell you who, hey, he didn't score a bunch, but that's Nassau Thompson on the defensive end?

17:31Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah.

17:33Shannon Sharpe:That's one thing you can say about them brothers. They brothers, you can tell they brothers. Yeah. They damn D your ass up.

17:39Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah, they going to do that. They going to do that. But look, you hope to get a little bit from him offensively, though. Yes. You know, you get –

17:46Shannon Sharpe:I think Ahmed is a little better offensive player than Nassau.

17:49Chad Johnson:Yeah. Well, you know, when you watch the game, though, He don't even really look at the basket, bro.

17:56Shannon Sharpe:No, he don't. He don't. We had the conversation. Bro, he in the lane 80 feet away, and he turned and, like, passing out. Bro, shoot that. You look like Ben Simmons on that plate.

18:06Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, look, K needs somebody else to be aggressive, bro, on that team. Yes. You know, who can take some pressure off of him. You know, I just feel like they relied on him so much in the second half, which obviously he had it going, and he led the charge. But you got to get a little bit – you got to get a little something out of Thompson, especially that game seven. You know, you're going to need a little productivity from them offensively. Okay, Ochoa. I think what they do great defensively is awesome. But offensively, they got to give you a little more.

18:37Shannon Sharpe:Well, that's what you work on in the offseason. Because it seems like defense come naturally to them. Now evolve your game. Because – I'll give you a prime example. Kawhi Leonard. look at Kawhi, what he was and then look at what Kawhi turned into

18:59Shannon Sharpe:I'm not saying they can be Kawhi because Kawhi that mid-range is damn near unstoppable but he developed a three he got the mid-range, he can put it on the floor he can get to the rim now he's not, injuries and age has robbed him of some of that defensive ability but he's still you got hell on your hands on the offensive end trying to deal with him now.

19:24Chad Johnson:Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think both Thompson's, especially the Thompson that plays in Detroit, you got to put the work in on Ochoa meaning in practice, bro, because he was shooting shots tonight. They didn't even look like they were going in. He was wide open. I'm talking about corner threes. And he didn't even think they was going in. Yeah, I'm not going to look. Hey, because when you shoot and you follow your shot right away, you know that. You already know it's off.

19:54Shannon Sharpe:Hey, it's just like I got the free throw line. When a guy shoot the ball and they think he the first guy to get the ball, you already know it's a bull jive. Because he can see the flight. You know when you left your head, it was a bull jive. Yeah, because he can see. But boy, this was an unbelievable game. And now a game seven. We got what? We got three game sevens. We got Orlando, Detroit, game seven. We got Toronto, Cleveland, game seven. We got Philly, Boston, game seven.

20:19Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. All Eastern Conference teams.

20:24Shannon Sharpe:It could have been except your team could have had a game seven too, Joe, but we ain't gonna talk about that. Come on, man, come on. Come on. Hopefully you get your money, Ocho. I just hope that. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm not even worried about that money, huh? You ain't worried about that, Ocho? You gotta understand, you know, for everything, everything has consequences that come behind it, you hear me? Consequences and repercussions? All the time. Man. It's in the Bible, huh? Oh, biblical. What's in the Bible? What's in the Bible? It's consequences and repercussions for your actions.

20:57Chad Johnson:Man, I don't give a damn about none of that. Yeah, okay. Just keep it 100 with you. Hey, I spoke my piece yesterday, you know, take it for what it's worth, take it however you feel or will. You know.

21:12Shannon Sharpe:All right. Yeah. Joe, that man, Joe, he said that's scripture. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay, y 'all. You know I'm a brother of the claw, so I do everything by the book. Okay. Okay.

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25:21Shannon Sharpe:Four points, nine rebounds on four May threes. He's joined by Scottie Barnes, 25 points, 14 assists, 7 rebounds. Also, Jacoby Walter had 24 points. He had four made, four of nine from the three-point line. And Colin Murray Bowles had 17. I thought this game was in the bag, man.

25:45Chad Johnson:I did too, bro.

25:46Shannon Sharpe:I said, Raptors, y 'all led by 12, 13 points for a large part of the second half. and to give me this thing up in the fourth quarter, I said, oh, well, it is what it is. And the next thing you know, looked like the shot that Halliburton hit last year. In New York.

26:04Chad Johnson:Yeah.

26:05Shannon Sharpe:The ball left the screen. I'm like, well, damn. Hey, Toronto be getting some favorable bounces. Y 'all remember that one Kawhi hit against Philly?

26:12Chad Johnson:Yes, sir. To end them. To put them away. Yeah. You're right. You're right. They've been getting some favorable bounces. Man, I told y 'all, bro, it's hard to win in Toronto. I know Cleveland pretty much had this game won. But, man, when you look at what R.J. Barrett and Scotty Barnes does, yeah, I see the Walter kid, he played great. But the way they play defense, you know, and James Harden and Donovan Mitchell, bro, they've been controlled. They've been controlling this. They've pretty much been controlling this series. Now, it's going to be tough for them to win in Cleveland, but I think they can do it, Uncle Ocho.

26:49Chad Johnson:You know, them dudes play hard, bro. I'm talking about it was a few times defensively they had great defensive sequences to where it led to great offensive production. You know, they don't really have guys. You know, think about it. They had Ingram, you know, and he was playing, you know, at that all-star caliber like he was playing during the season because he was an all-star this year, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. You know what I mean? And he didn't play. He didn't play. I think. He didn't play, and he hadn't been playing well in the series. He hadn't. He hadn't been playing. He hadn't been playing, but I think he would have been due because that would give you another guy who can score, go off the bounce, create.

27:25Chad Johnson:But from what they have, they've been competing this entire series, even in Cleveland. I think this game seven will be a toss-up.

27:34Shannon Sharpe:I think it will be a toss-up. I agree. And you look at it, Joe, for Toronto to win this game, and they got out-rebounded by 14. they gave up 19 offensive rebounds damn 19 but the turnovers you had 18 turnovers yeah

28:00Chad Johnson:well

28:01Shannon Sharpe:and none more costly than that last but look you probably don't win the game if Schroeder doesn't give you what he does in game five and then he gives it and he takes away Scotty Barnes is the first player to have a 25-5-10-3-3 which he had 25 points, several rebounds, 14 assists, three steals, and three blocks since Goat James did it in 2016. Damn. Game seven in Cleveland on Sunday. The home team has won all six games thus far.

28:37Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, look.

28:38Shannon Sharpe:This is so much pressure on James Harden. This is so much pressure on Donovan Mitchell.

28:43Chad Johnson:This game seven? You're right. Hey, look. They playing at home, though, Joe. But look, Ocho, we said that early in this series that we all felt this series was going to go seven. Yes, sir. Yes, they at home. But this is just one game, Ocho. The series, you can throw it out the window now. This is one game. Now, if Toronto can come in there and be better than Cleveland just for this one game, bro, they can move on. Will it be challenging? Yeah, it'll be challenging, but I think it can definitely be done. You know, unless Donovan or James Harden have an out-of-body experience to where they want them to go for about 40-45 on Camacho.

29:25Chad Johnson:But it's tough. I mean, hell, you had Donovan.

29:27Shannon Sharpe:The way they play defense, it's hard. Scottie Barnes ain't giving up that.

29:31Chad Johnson:That's what I'm saying. Look, if I'm Scottie Barnes and I'm guarding Donovan Mitchell, he got 24, I'm shaking his hand because guess what? He took 26 damn shots.

29:40Shannon Sharpe:And with two or 10 from the three.

29:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, so I'm

29:43Shannon Sharpe:James Harden was 5 of 14 He had 16 points, but it took him 14 shots to get it Yeah

29:49Chad Johnson:So I think Toronto does a great job in defending Hell, they're one of the youngest teams in the NBA And they're showing up to the party ready to play, baby Who you got, Joe? You been against Mitchell and Harden? It's hard to bet against them but this has been a long, grueling series, and you don't really know, you know, what you're going to get from some of them guys. And I just think, you know, the youth that Toronto has, and Toronto got some guys who can play, man. Yes, sir. You know, and they've shown that throughout this series.

30:29If I'm a betting man, I'm probably going to bet on Cleveland,

30:33Chad Johnson:but it's going to be a tough one, bro. It's going to be a tough one.

30:37Shannon Sharpe:What's the spread? And I'll tell you what I'm gonna bet.

30:40Chad Johnson:I bet the spread can't be no more than by this.

30:44Shannon Sharpe:It's probably two to three points, Joe. That's it. It might be fine, Joe, considering.

30:50Chad Johnson:I wonder what it is myself, hold on. But Joe, uncle you betting with? Joe say you got the cab. Well, I mean, knowing you're a betting man, who you taking?

31:03Shannon Sharpe:They got Cleveland seven and a half, Joe.

31:06Chad Johnson:Do they? Yes.

31:09Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I'm taking the points. Give me the points, Danette. I'll take Raptors.

31:15Chad Johnson:Damn.

31:17Shannon Sharpe:I might take them outright.

31:20Chad Johnson:You ain't going to do that. You ain't doing that. Right. That'll be that Laporte ain't talking.

31:28Shannon Sharpe:If I'm really trying to win some money.

31:30Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

31:34Shannon Sharpe:I really tried to wear a little money, Joe. Tried to put a little something in my pocket. I feel. I feel. Hey. But I would definitely take Toronto in the seven and a half.

31:44Chad Johnson:I told y 'all, hey, I would have took Toronto at home against Cleveland in any of these games.

31:50Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:51Chad Johnson:I know they got a lucky bounce tonight. But, hell, man, the effort that those dudes been playing with, the way they been scoring the ball, being unselfish, attacking, defensively causing havoc. That's a scary team. It's going to be a great game. That's a scary team.

32:09Shannon Sharpe:Scottie Barnes played 48 minutes. Joe, he played the whole game. R.J. Babb played 43 minutes. Jacoby Walter played 43 minutes. And Murray Bowles played 40 minutes.

32:19Chad Johnson:Hey, that's what it takes sometimes.

32:21Shannon Sharpe:Eben Mobley, 41 minutes. James Harden, 44 minutes. Donovan Mitchell, 41 minutes. So it ain't like they got fresh legs coming in either.

32:31Chad Johnson:I thought Mobley and Allen gave him some great minutes tonight, too, Arkin Ocho. You know, Mobley, 26 and 14. Man, I bet that's what Cleveland has been looking for from him for quite some time, to assert himself. Because he made a big bucket to send in overtime.

32:50Shannon Sharpe:He left it layup. Yeah, they could have lost in regulation.

32:55Chad Johnson:And they went to him, and for him to deliver like that, I was like, damn, that's all right for Mobley. I thought he said it was going to be gone.

33:05Shannon Sharpe:I tried to tell you, Joe. I already know the symptoms. Oh, you had a homeboy. I know the symptoms. What symptoms? I don't know. That boy. I ain't going to speak on it. But we know. No, don't try to put that on me now. No, don't put it on you. You got it. Hey, I told you. See that empty bottle? Yeah. And it ain't work. You told Joe yesterday, I said, Joe, this thing gonna be here for a minute. Yeah. I told him to go buy him some Snickers, cause it's gonna be a while. Hey, that was a bar. I already know Joe. I know the symptoms. I told you I had a homeboy. Yeah. I know what it is when I see it. Mm.

33:53Shannon Sharpe:But it ain't none of my business. Yeah. I don't even feel comfortable speaking on it with a partner of mine. So I ain't gonna speak on it.

34:01Chad Johnson:Well, I've seen.

34:02Shannon Sharpe:They got it in the class. What did Chad say you got, Ocho?

34:05Chad Johnson:That bullhead class.

34:07Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe, you ain't. I ain't say nothing. That's what the Chad say. I ain't got nothing to do with me. Y 'all, y 'all, y 'all, y 'all. Y 'all keep making fun of the common cold now with all this extra stuff, man. But that's common. Yeah. Joe ain't got it. I ain't got it. Wait, no. How common is it? Hold on. Hey, you knew about it. You brought it to my attention. I never heard her until you mentioned it. Just because you ain't never heard her didn't mean it exists. There are a lot of disease that people ain't never heard of. Like, I ain't never know that. I know that. Now you trying to prove it.

34:40I know you.

34:41Shannon Sharpe:The doctor told you. That's why you knew about you. Hey, Joe, you said I ain't trying to prove it. Nah, what is that, huh? Doctor told him just yesterday, the other day. No, sir. I promise you NyQuil ain't going to help that. Yeah. Hey, I'll be back right tomorrow. You said that yesterday. Hey, he said that. Chad, what did he say yesterday? Hey, one more day, Joe. Joe, one more day. Man, let's draw two balls a night, Quill, and getting worse. Nah, I'm almost back now. You said it was two days max on Tuesday. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, but you know what? I'm almost back. I don't know what kind of cold y 'all be having.

35:25Shannon Sharpe:He goes back from what? It's cold. He goes to me, what's the symptoms? You look at him. Hey, you been able to work out with them symptoms? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe. I done been on the field trying to sweat this thing out, Joe. Have you sweated it out? Yeah. No, you ain't. I still hear you, Joe.

35:43Chad Johnson:How's it sound? That's what I'm saying. I heard him. I sound like he was coughing up a lung. That's why I said something. I was damn. Oh, no, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. Hey, give me some more. What you going to get some? You going to get some more liquor? Don't worry about what I'm getting. Oh, Joe. What's up, baby? When y 'all playing in your soccer league again? Oh, you talking about the real big one? Yeah. Oh, that's TST. That's not until the end of May 27th. Where y 'all going to be playing at? In North Carolina. In Cary. In Cary, North Carolina. It's going to be jumping like that?

36:17Oh, Joe, boy. Everybody, boy. You got to understand, teams coming from all over the world, Joe. They competing for that million-dollar prize. Man, I'm going to have to come down there and check y 'all out. Yeah, come on, Joe. The schedule out already. I've seen the schedule. What's the name of y 'all's squad? Villarreal, a team out of Spain called the Yellow Submarine.

36:37Chad Johnson:Oh, a team out of Spain. Oh, you got some real hitters with you. Oh, yeah, this ain't no bulldog. Villarreal is a team that played with Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, like that league. They good. So I'm playing with some of the academy kids and some of their former players from the past. Oh man, so you had to put that work in on a day-to-day basis to stay sharp. I've been going at it three months now, Joe. Because I definitely ain't finna be no liability. Hold on, what position you play? I play the nine. Help me out for somebody who don't really know. You say you play the nine. The nine would damn near, you know what, almost be like the center in basketball sometimes.

37:18Oh really? Yeah, almost like the center in basketball.

37:20Chad Johnson:So you handle the ball a lot? No, no, no, no. That'd be your 10. That'd be your point guard would be your 10. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. Now, sometimes I play like a false nine who could also come back and get the ball and create on his own for others. Yeah. But for me, because I'm playing with people that are a little bit more experienced, have a lot more quality on the ball than I do, I just strictly stay at the nine. Mm. So either I get it, either I get it with my back to the goal and I facilitate or try to create and find space and tie my runs without being offside. What's the hardest thing about playing soccer, bro?

38:01Chad Johnson:Ooh, boy. Is it being in shape? It's not. Being in shape, that's one thing. Always being, when you get the ball, always knowing what you want to do before you get the ball in your hands. but forget the ball at your feet always being two steps ahead of everybody else it's hard I would think it would be like instinctively you know like cause like in basketball right it's hard to really predetermine what you gonna do with the ball you know you have to play off instincts you feel what I'm saying yeah and I would think soccer would be that way you know moving up and down the field like that but hey I got one question another question you got you got a you got a particular person or people on the team who you trying to get the ball to as far as who scores uh shoot that night that either that nine of them wingers yeah and most of the time the better you got their midfield is especially whoever whoever your teenage your 10 is your is your point the better your 10 the easy it is for everybody else unless you got somebody that's really really gangster on the wings that can that could change the flow of a whole goddamn game okay okay okay okay

39:30Shannon Sharpe:don't waste your time going out there joe you said ain't i ain't it ain't nothing to see They should put him at goalie. You say he got the best feet. Hell no, I got the best feet. That's why I'm playing exactly where I'm at, at the nine. Hey, hold on, why you say hell no to the goalie? Who, nah, I don't mean goalie crazy, man. I don't want no ball flying to me that fast. I'm good, no sir. You too small to be a goalie.

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43:47Shannon Sharpe:They're all tired. Joker is an incredible talent. He will not be recognized correctly. He's not going to be recognized as the very greatest ever, meaning a top 10 if he's sitting on one chip. I agree. Yeah. Look at the guys. Think about all the guys that we think are top 10. None of them have just one ring.

44:11Chad Johnson:Right.

44:12Shannon Sharpe:So let's just say for the second. I'm just going to throw this out there. Kareem has six rings. Magic has five rings. Jordan, six rings. Duncan, five. LeBron, four. Steph, four. Kobe, five. Shaq, four. Russell, 11. Chamberlain, three. Or two. Elijah won, two. So, whomever you think are a top ten player, none of them have just one championship. You're right.

44:43Chad Johnson:you gotta have multiple in your back pocket now well god damn I mean just earlier in the conversation during the regular season they were saying I mean everybody was talking about they won't have to put joke in their top five at some point

44:55Shannon Sharpe:if he wins enough it's gonna be hard he wins three he got three regular season MVPs he got two final MVPs he's not done let's just say for the sake of argument Ocho he gets another regular season MVP that's four now he has another finals championship and a finals MVP now we got to seriously consider where we put it we really do

45:24Chad Johnson:his numbers stack up with the best of them though that's crazy how the numbers stacked up with the best of them but now the conversation is changing because now he didn't got sent home

45:33Shannon Sharpe:because all the others parlayed those numbers and the championships and at the end of the day that's what you have to do Yeah. He's a phenomenal talent. He is. I mean, his ability to score.

45:49Chad Johnson:Yeah.

45:49Shannon Sharpe:And plus the problem that's hurt, he don't even attempt to play defense. Everybody else attempted to play defense. Right. Obviously, we know Russell, but they didn't keep a track of block shots until the 70s.

46:02Chad Johnson:Yeah.

46:03Shannon Sharpe:And so you look at Elijah one, you look at Duncan, you look at Jordan, you look at Kobe, you look at LeBron, even Shaq made an all-NBA team. defensively.

46:13Chad Johnson:Yeah, I think because offensively he's so deceptive as far as being a great scorer, great playmaker, great rebounder. But defensively, to some degree, yeah, he is somewhat of a liability because you know he ain't really going to be up on the pick and roll like that. He always going to kind of be in a drop. So, therefore, hell, in this league, your point guards, your two guards, your threes, these are great pick and roll guys. I said, these are guys who put the ball in the hole.

46:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

46:43Chad Johnson:So they're going to always go at him. They're going to always go at him. If you notice, the great ones, especially if you're a liability defensively, you can be greatest all you want to on offense. What we have to do is attack you defensively. Absolutely. Because you can't save all that energy for offense. We got to make you use some of that shit on defense. Absolutely. Yeah, and that's what teams have been doing.

47:07Shannon Sharpe:Yes, and people criticize them because they're like, bro, you ain't even attempting to play no defense. I can understand if you was attempting, but all the guys got to do is once he gets on the edge, he's getting to the basket. Uninhibited. Well,

47:19Chad Johnson:cause he ain't no shot blocker.

47:20Shannon Sharpe:We mentioned the other big Joe. You look at Duncan. Duncan is a 15 time all NBA selection. We look at Elijah one. Many regard him as the one or the two second best defensive center in the history of the game. Yeah. And Russell.

47:33Chad Johnson:Yeah.

47:35Shannon Sharpe:And so now we look at that guy. Okay. Hey, we look at Kareem was an 11-time All-NBA selection. LeBron, Kobe, Jordan.

47:46Shannon Sharpe:It's just going to be hard. And like you said, Joe, his offensive numbers are worthy. Yeah. His MVPs are worthy. Yeah. But he has one chip. We don't even really think, we don't even really consider you unless you got two to three.

48:05Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

48:07Shannon Sharpe:I mean, if you think about it, other than Olajuwon and Chamberlain, and I don't know, some people have Chamberlain in, some people have him out, because it's hard to overlook a guy that got 32-60 points game and a 150-50 point game. It's hard to overlook him and say he's not a top-10 player, Joe. But some people do. But if you look at Kareem is 6-6, Jordan is 6-5, LeBron is 4-4, Steph is 4-2. Shaq is four chips and an MVP. He got four chips and an MVP. Who else are we talking about? Magic is five and three. Bird is three and three. It's going to be hard with one chip for you to crack it.

48:57Chad Johnson:Yeah, it's too many greats. It's too many greats and there were multiple championships. I definitely agree. But he still got a lot of basketball ahead of him. I don't know. Well, I know Denver ain't letting his ass go. He gonna have to be there.

49:10Shannon Sharpe:Now, what is he eligible for this year? He's eligible for an extension. Probably close to 300 million. Yeah, yeah.

49:19Chad Johnson:Know he gonna get that. He gonna sign that and go right back over to his ranch. Yeah. With his horses. That's all he care about. Playing basketball and them damn horses, boy.

49:31Shannon Sharpe:No, Jordan is not six for six. Jordan has six championships. chips he has five mvps so i was that's what i was looking kareem is six and six six finals win six rings six mvps kobe is five and and one five titles one mvp lebron is four and four shack is one is four and one that's what i'm saying i'm saying i'm not saying how many wins you have in the finals. I'm saying the chips.

50:03Chad Johnson:Shaq only got one MVP? You mean Shaq only

50:06Shannon Sharpe:got one MVP? He only got one regular season MVP. He has three finals MVPs to go along with the four titles.

50:14Chad Johnson:Damn. I thought he would have more than that. No, I remember he lost

50:19Shannon Sharpe:to Steve Nash when he was down in Miami. Right. Hmm. Well,

50:32Chad Johnson:they even had it.

50:33Shannon Sharpe:Your bitch is eligible for a four-year,$290 million extension. God damn. Wait, after this season? This season? After the season.

50:48Chad Johnson:So he going to sign that this summer?

50:50Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Chad, listen to what I'm saying. When I said six for six, Kareem has six regular season MVPs, six titles. Jordan has six titles, five regular season MVPs. Magic has five titles, three regular season MVPs. Bird has three titles, three regular season MVPs. Are you following what I'm saying? Or, I mean, do you eat crayons? I just need to know. So, did you get stars and cookies for grades? I'm confused now, because I made it abundantly clear. I said LeBron is four and four. He has four titles, four regular season MVPs. So tell me what you're missing, Chad.

51:37Chad Johnson:I think the way you broke it down just then, they got it. They should have it. Damn.

51:44Shannon Sharpe:Because I'm wondering, Joe. I'm just wondering. Somebody got certificates and not diplomas for graduation.

51:51Chad Johnson:You saying they got them paper turkeys hanging on the wall?

51:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They ate crayons, huh? I'm just saying because clearly George 6 for 6 this guy I said guys we're talking because Max Kellerman said because he has one title he didn't even mention the MVPs right I said because look at the MVPs look at the guys and I said Joe I said look at the guys that's in the top 10 yeah what do they have they have titles and they have MVP multiple titles right Everybody that we look at that is a top 10 player has multiple titles. Yeah.

52:36Chad Johnson:Absolutely right. Hey, he got some time, though. He got some time. Oh, for sure.

52:43Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. For sure. And Joe, his body, and because he doesn't rely on athleticism, he can play for a while. There you go. This is what is so impressive about LeBron. Because LeBron was so athletic, he had to reinvent himself. Tom Brady is a prime example. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees never relied on athleticism. So when they got slow, who cared? They wasn't running away from anybody anyway. Right, right. Even they was in year three. They was running seven flat 40. So now when they're 38, 39, Ocho, and they're running eight flat 40, who cares it's the guys that relied on athleticism as that starts to wane that you run into the problem and you really have to reinvent yourself in order to stay at that level that's why it's so hard when guys are so athletic and all of a sudden they have an injury Joe and you know this in basketball a guy that's super athletic and he has an injury it's hard for them to ever be the same.

53:53Chad Johnson:Yeah.

53:54Shannon Sharpe:Because they become so reliant on that athleticism.

53:57Chad Johnson:Yep.

53:58Shannon Sharpe:That's why Bird. If Bird back didn't go out, Bird couldn't play forever because he wasn't reliant on athleticism. Yeah. And because Jokic isn't reliant on athleticism,

54:08Chad Johnson:he could be in the sweet spot, Joe, another three to five years. Yeah, he's going to be able to play for a long time.

54:14Shannon Sharpe:He could.

54:15Chad Johnson:You know, because a lot of cats who are naturally just guy-gifted, athletically. From what I've seen, they ain't really had to work on their game like that. You know, because they've just been so much gifted than everybody else. Now, you get a cat who ain't just gifted athletically, but he work his ass off? Yeah, he'll be around for a long time. Yes. Hey, I ain't telling y 'all what I know. I'm telling you, you know, what I've seen. Yeah.

54:44Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Check this out, guys. Malik Willis throughout the first pitch at a Marlins game today. Let's take a look. Uh-oh.

55:02Damn.

55:05Shannon Sharpe:What was that? Hey, Malik, Malik, he might say he never played no baseball. Uh-uh.

55:15Chad Johnson:Oh, man. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, Joe, it's funny though. You see him throw that baseball like that, watch him throw a football and watch how it look. Man, when you got athletic ability, you should be able to do that. You should be able to do that. Hey, Joe, how far is that mound from the plate? What, 60 feet, 6 inches? Hey, Joe, I don't think it's that easy. Ocho, Ocho, I threw a first pitch out of Yankee Stadium, homeboy. Straight across the plate. Don't play with me. You fastball right down the middle. I'm surprised y 'all can't find it. Right down the middle. Hey, I got to see that, Joe. Yankee Stadium, right down the pipe.

55:56I got to see that, Joe.

55:57Chad Johnson:Yeah. You know, listen, if you don't have a baseball background, you know, throwing from 60 with however far it is away, it ain't that easy. Well, listen, hold on, hold on. Well, you know, when they select you to throw out the first pitch, you don't just walk your ass out the stands. You better be practicing. Yeah, they should have let you go down. Like, I was down. Hey, look, I'm down there with Jeter and Rodriguez. I'm down there. Oh, yeah. You getting some work in? Man, what you talking about?

56:26Shannon Sharpe:Hold on for a second, Joe. Ash, how far is home plate? The pitch is on the home plate? I don't know. What'd she say? She's talking about, I don't know. It's 60 feet, 6 inches. Yeah. Hey, Joe. What's happening? Hey, now that you just mentioned it, Hey, you think the Reds will let me throw out a pitch? The Reds or the Marlins? You a home guy time guy? The Marlins. The Reds or the Marlins? Either one? Yeah. Yeah. I like that because, you know, I used to pitch back in Little League now. Oh, here you go. Here we go, Joe. I bet you can't even make it reach the plate. Well, Joe, I throw about 102, Joe.

57:08Chad Johnson:Now you don't, Joe. All right. Hey, you may throw 102, but that shit ain't controlled. Don't worry about it being controlled.

57:16Shannon Sharpe:That thing ain't going nowhere near the plate. It gonna get across that plate. Hey, you know, Joe, I was a five tooler in high school now. You was a what? Five tooler. I did learn everything, shortstop. I could play out in the field. A lawnmower, a edger, a hole, a rake. Hey, y 'all, listen, I can't help it because I was athletic. Oh, we saw your athleticism on full display. Everybody saw it. Why you talking? Every Sunday at 1 o 'clock. That was me. Yeah. Every Sunday at 1 o 'clock. Matter of fact, I got Sunday league too. Hey, Uncle Joe, y 'all need to come to my game. Sunday league? Yeah, I play soccer at Kendall Soccer Park every Sunday.

58:02So y 'all need to come support.

58:04Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, you probably won't even hit 65 miles an hour with the throw the ball. Ooh.

58:11Chad Johnson:Hey, that's disrespectful, though. Seriously. I bet you I know you can't get in that batting cage and hit nothing. Oh, I don't want no part of that, bro. You scared? Joe, I don't want no part of that. You hear me? Now, listen. I'm on one thing. I know I got some sense. I know I play around a lot, but I got some sense. I don't want. Don't put me in no batting cage. I don't want nothing coming at me. Anything over 80 miles an hour? No, sir. You probably ain't hitting 80. I could tell you that. You ain't gonna hit it either. I can hit it, ain't it? No, you can't. What you unbanned? No, you can't.

58:46No, you cannot.

58:47Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, just cause you can't die, he don't want me or Joe to do it either. He want him to be a trio. He want him to be a trio of fans and try to hit a baseball. Ain't nobody on this chat with a mic in front of their mouth hitting 80 miles an hour and no batting cage. I'll tell you that.

59:01Chad Johnson:I can. No, you can't. I can hit it. Hey, now that's something we need to go do. because there ain't nobody. I can be real about it. I'm being honest.

59:13Shannon Sharpe:The chat has already seen you on display with your athleticism. Yes, I told you. Every Sunday at 1 o 'clock they saw me. In football and he can't do nothing outside of football. Who? Unbeknownst to me. Who? Better in soccer than I am in football. What are you talking about? I don't care nothing about basketball. Unfortunately, we didn't play no soccer games, but you look like trash in all the other games that you replay. I look great in those games.

59:39Chad Johnson:No, don't do that. Don't do that. Just because y 'all won, I trashed you in bowling. What you talking about? He's talking about looking bad, and I whooped him in bowling.

59:53Shannon Sharpe:First of all, I won the first game, but I tore my meniscus, and so I wasn't able to get down like I was supposed to. But you can't beat me in no damn bowling. That's your excuse? You cannot beat me in nothing, man. Joe, you can't beat me in nothing anyway. I got a torn meniscus to prove it. That's your fault.

1:00:11Chad Johnson:Oh, Joe, you act like we didn't just play some games and you went over. That was three, four months ago. Why y 'all still talking about that? But it happened. That's what I'm saying. What we going to do? Why be waiting so long to do something again? Y 'all going to, that's y 'all. Y 'all.

1:00:31Shannon Sharpe:He mad now, Joe. He's big bad now. I'm happy what? I'm just saying, can we do something new? Y 'all still talk about this old ass stuff. What you want to do, Ocho? I want to play pool. I want to do ping pong. I want to do darts. I want to throw in the ax. Like, let's do something else.

1:00:48Chad Johnson:Ocho, you can't. Your pool game ain't like that. I know it. I can tell. Hey, Joe, you doing too much talking. That's how I know you're not good at it. That's not even part of your game, talking.

1:01:02I'm ready, man. Ping pong, ping pong, please. Like, what are we talking about?

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