In short
Sports talk focused on Cowboys/secondary drama, Lamar Jackson’s injury status and Ravens’ playoff outlook, Dolphins’ front-office search, and Bengals’ offseason needs.
Guests/backgrounds
The episode is hosted by Ocho (former NFL player, former Broncos/Baltimore player referenced) and “Ocho” discusses as a football insider/analyst. No other named guest is clearly introduced in the transcript; Troy Aikman is discussed as an advisor, not as a guest.
Key claims
- Micah Parsons defends Trevon Diggs against media criticism, arguing reporters publicly disrespect players and that Diggs shouldn’t be blamed for Dallas’s defensive issues.
- Lamar Jackson says he will play vs the Steelers despite a back contusion; Ocho argues the skepticism is overblown and points to pain tolerance and timing/practice realities.
- Troy Aikman is advising the Dolphins during their general manager search, praised as a “GPS” for decision-making.
- Joe Burrow and Ja’Marr Chase say the Bengals must change; the elephant in the room is defense, plus possible offensive-line upgrades.
Notable examples
- Parsons cites Diggs’ PFF-style corner ratings trend and says “give the man a farewell.”
- Ravens pass defense ranked around 30th; Ocho claims only two teams are worse.
- Bengals: Burrow/Chase emphasize defense; Ocho wants Jeffrey Simmons.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMicah Parsons Defends Trevon Diggs
3:09 to 6:17
Micah Parsons speaks out against media criticism of Trevon Diggs.
“Defending his new teammate, Trayvon Diggs.”
Analyzing Trayvon Diggs' Performance
6:18 to 10:45
Discussion on Trayvon Diggs' performance and media portrayal.
“Look, like I said last night, I'm not here to beat up Trayvon.”
Lamar Jackson's Commitment to Play
15:38 to 18:15
Discusses Lamar Jackson's plans to play against the Steelers and the implications for his legacy.
“Also, Lamar Jackson said he's planning to play Sunday against the Steelers at the regular season finale.”
Analyzing Lamar's Performance and Pain Tolerance
18:16 to 23:02
A deep dive into Lamar Jackson's performance this season and perceptions of his injury.
“He's going to bring the table and he's going to bring some motherfucking legs with him.”
Quarterback Critiques and Comparisons
23:03 to 28:00
Engaging discussion on the scrutiny of quarterbacks and the fairness of criticism across different players.
“But at the end of the day, I still got to be honest.”
Lamar Jackson's Comeback and Playoff Implications
28:00 to 29:10
Discussing the importance of Lamar Jackson's return and the impact on the Ravens' playoff chances.
“They haven't been in first place in the division, and now all of a sudden, they come back and win the division.”
Ravens' Defensive Struggles
29:10 to 30:20
Analyzing the Ravens' defensive issues and their effect on the team's performance.
“Look, he's going to have to play well because the defense, they don't rush the quarterback.”
Troy Aikman's Role with the Dolphins
35:14 to 39:10
Discussing Troy Aikman's advisory role with the Miami Dolphins and its implications.
“It feels like we're going round in circles.”
Jerry Jones and Team Management Decisions
39:10 to 42:00
Exploration of Jerry Jones' management style and its effect on the Cowboys' decision-making.
“That's why he wasn't going to have to hire Ben Johnson.”
Jerry Jones and Team Management Insights
42:00 to 43:58
Explore insights on Jerry Jones's management style and the importance of leveraging expertise.
“hey, man, congratulations, hey, man, let me get you a drink.”
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Jerry's Football Background and Ownership
43:58 to 45:27
Discuss Jerry Jones's history playing football and how it influenced his ownership decisions.
“Why don't I use Troy in that same manner as well?”
The Economics of Early Football Franchises
45:27 to 48:40
Delve into the financial history of NFL franchises and their value changes over time.
“yeah 70 years ago wait Jerry played football for real yeah at Arkansas he's on the national championship team him and Jimmy offensive line he's so little they were little back then Oh, he wasn't fat and lost weight?”
Bengals' Season Challenges and Future Plans
48:40 to 50:34
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase analyze their season struggles and potential changes.
“You know, it's hard for me to fathom and grasp the concept.”
Socioeconomic Commentary on Past and Present
50:34 to 55:44
A discussion on historical socioeconomic conditions and their relevance today.
“Continue to put pieces, not around me offensively, because you've done everything you can for us offensively.”
Economic Disparities and the American Dream
56:00 to 57:40
Discussing the widening gap between income and the cost of living, and its impact on achieving the American Dream.
“And prices, home, you ain't buying no home now for no$5 ,900.”
Personal Hardships and Family Stories
57:40 to 59:24
Sharing personal anecdotes about family struggles and the value of hard work in overcoming economic challenges.
“It ain't got to be Sunday for you to preach.”
Quarterback Analysis: Giants' Future Choices
59:24 to 1:01:08
Evaluating the Giants' potential draft picks and discussing the future of their quarterback situation.
“You don't know how many times me and my brother done put sweet potatoes in the hot ashes, let them cook, because we got no gas stove don't work Ocho.”
Snow Shoveling for Cash: A Unique Offer
1:01:08 to 1:03:08
Discussing the Buffalo Bills' initiative for fans to shovel snow at the stadium for payment and food.
“mcdozer i like him on but he's not jackson dark he's not going to breathe that kind of excitement and put butts in the seat like jackson dart and goddamn scatterbo can do nope he's not I agree.”
Reflections on Manual Labor and Childhood
1:03:08 to 1:04:44
Recounting experiences of manual labor during childhood and its impact on work ethic.
“That would have been some great content, man.”
Lessons from Grandma: Value of Money
1:04:44 to 1:06:48
Exploring the teachings about money and work from their grandmother's perspective.
“Where else you going to make that kind of money?”
Appreciation for Success and Hard Work
1:06:48 to 1:10:01
Reflecting on personal success and the importance of hard work while sharing family pride.
“He's like, boy, we sitting on the back just talking.”
The Importance of Purpose and Action
1:10:01 to 1:11:43
This segment discusses the necessity of maintaining a sense of purpose and staying active in life.
“I don't know if I could just sit still and not do nothing.”
Analyzing Film: What Players Look For
1:11:44 to 1:14:44
A detailed explanation of what football players analyze when watching game film.
“We're going to get you here out of this.”
New Year’s Resolutions and Personal Growth
1:14:45 to 1:18:00
The hosts share their thoughts on New Year's resolutions and personal discipline.
“And you got to remember, just like that.”
Dealing with Loss and Supporting Each Other
1:18:01 to 1:20:31
Discussion on handling personal loss and offering support to a friend in need.
“I know that leaves a lot of questions for the family, but sometimes the pain is...”
College Football Playoff Dynamics
1:20:32 to 1:24:00
Analyzing the effectiveness and structure of the college football playoff system.
“You have our deepest sympathies and well wishes.”
Fan Interactions and College Football Sentiment
1:24:00 to 1:25:11
Listeners share their thoughts on college football and team performance.
“Man, no matter who played or the level, Unk and Ocho are the go-to for late night.”
Personal Anecdotes and Life Reflections
1:25:12 to 1:26:39
The hosts reminisce about personal experiences and life changes.
“I ain't trying to live in the country no more.”
Discussion on Appearance and Public Perception
1:26:40 to 1:28:22
The hosts discuss grooming and how appearances affect public perception.
“Hey, but you clean, uh, a matter of fact, hey, you was on the shade room, right?”
Momentum Shifts in Football Games
1:28:23 to 1:31:25
An analysis of how turnovers can impact the momentum of football games.
“We, we, we, yeah, we could, hey, we could do a little something with you now.”
Rookie of the Year Candidates and Performance Debates
1:31:26 to 1:33:35
The hosts debate who could win Rookie of the Year based on performance.
“man, you pay double for that stuff, man.”
Transcript
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3:09Shannon Sharpe:Ocho! Michael was active today on Twitter. Oh, excuse me. X. Defending his new teammate, Trayvon Diggs. First, a Cowboy beat writer tweeted, Trayvon Diggs-Gray, per football focus. I don't even look at pro football focus. 2020, it was 67.2. Then 21, it was 59.6. 2022, it was 66.9. And 23, it was 80.2. Only two games, though. 24, it was 56.6. And 25 was 56.1. Statistically, he's the worst corner in the league right now. And the tape is even worse. Maybe we owe those guys at Pro Football Focus an apology. Ocho? Yes, sir. Then Micah responded, I feel like what the point they're trying to publicly disrespect someone.
3:58Shannon Sharpe:He's not representing the star anymore. Just give the man a farewell. Wish him the best. I don't know why everything has to be negative every time the breakup happens. He's in a better situation right now. Trust me, bro going to be great again. Then he added, y 'all want me to feel bad? Jerry Jones slammed my name to the Cowboys media and national media for months. So do I think I can react to comments if I want to? Respectfully. Ocho? Yeah, man. What you thinking? I mean, listen, I mean, Micah, at some point, he's tired of it. Obviously, when things don't work out, why is it always the media?
4:36Why not wish the players farewell? well why do you always have to bring up the negative about him on on on why he's gone and and and where he where he's at right now and i i don't understand it's it's tasteless to me it's classless to me uh most most times when other players from other teams they get traded uh they send in their farewells they say thank you appreciate your work i know things didn't work out the way they should but hey every divorce when it comes to the cowboys and their players it has to be nasty it doesn't have to be something you know you expect you expect it from fans sometimes fans yes but you know the media in itself there's so many other things that's going wrong in that organization you don't have to do the players like that they did Michael like that they said they were better without him then they put up these numbers they they found numbers in a way to to justify him not being there why it was okay and why they were in a better position and now with Trayvon Diggs they did the same thing well normally reporters don't do no farewell they
5:34Shannon Sharpe:might call you if they have your number they might that might be something privately i appreciate you you know you're talking to me you was always respectful and professional with me when i was here and you were here so i really really appreciate that i got a lot of that when i left denver the first time um even when i left baltimore you know i had a lot of guys reach out and you know we stayed in contact for years they would call and ask me certain and things i could help them on i would be more than happy to help but normally publicly reporters can't wish you the best that's that's not where their job that's not where their job is on show right um but i i think the thing is is that people like well michael this divorce has happened five months ago yeah i think that's the thing people like bro you you moved on with your life you happy yeah i mean but but he in in in in sense in essence for context you gotta understand he was taken up for trayvon and yes that that's all and just reminding them five months ago they did them the exact same way as much as he's done for them obviously not being able to you know what the end goal is the end goal is always to win a championship he wasn't able to bring that but they found ways to justify him leaving and some of the things that Jerry said and obviously you know we talked about it in length when it happened oh he wasn't coming back there's there's no way an owner talks about a player like that publicly and he's still in his team you think I'm going to represent you in the right way.
6:58Shannon Sharpe:I agree with you. Look, like I said last night, I'm not here to beat up Trayvon. He had his moments, and I just saw things that were kind of like had me trending. You know, I just keep my mouth shut because I hear a lot of people saying, well, we got people. They said DMing me pictures of him in the club or him being somewhere. I'm like, that ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm going to talk about his play on the field, and that's where I'm going to leave it at. But I just saw the way it was trending, and I was like, yeah, they're going to have a breakup here before long. And it happened, you know, as Brian Schottenheimer shot, he said, yeah, because we told him he couldn't go, and then the reports that he was at a concert.
7:46Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. I don't know if he was at a concert, but that's inconsequential because when you ask them could you stay, they said no. Once they said no, it doesn't matter whether you're at a concert. And I guess, like you said, maybe he just wanted to leave. Maybe he wanted out. I don't know. But in that situation, if your boss said, you ask your boss, can I get off tomorrow? He says, no, we really need you to come in, Ocho. If you take off tomorrow, it don't matter what you took off for. They did not give you the day off. So if they move in another direction, you can't be mad. Yeah, I don't think he is mad.
8:22I don't think he is mad either way. I think obviously he wanted out. He knew it was coming. There were issues obviously dating back to training camp and him choosing to do his, not training camp, but offseason. Him choosing to do his rehabbing elsewhere and not want to be in Dallas. Obviously, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys organization taking$500 ,000 from him because of his choice and wanting to rehab away from the facility. Correct. And then obviously him saying he's healthy, him being a healthy scratch, him talking to the media, the media saying he's healthy, but Jerry saying he's not healthy.
8:56I mean, it was so much turmoil going on there. And I think he just wanted to expedite the process of him not being there. So him choosing not to come back on that flight and then stay wherever he was and do what he wanted to do. And he got what he wanted.
9:12Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I think the thing is, Ocho, also, and you heard Aberfluous. when he was talking. He said some things, trans hard. He's like, look, when you have a guy that can get there suddenly and we trade that guy, he's talking like a guy that knows he's not coming back. So I'm going to be truthful. We traded Michael. What the hell do you expect to happen with our secondary? You need a guy that can win right now. He's the one guy that can win right now. He's the one guy that if you don't double, he will wreck your defense. He'll wreck your offense. They don't have anybody like that. And so with that, with Trayvon not – well, maybe he's healthy now.
9:55Shannon Sharpe:Maybe he wasn't healthy at the start of the season. I don't know. I don't know. But what I do know is that he was a guy that would take some risk. He's a feast of famine guy, Ocho. He's going to get you, but you're going to get him. Yeah. And teams double moved him. That's how you got to get him. You know there are guys, Ocho, we starting off. We double moved you because we got to back you up. You're aggressive. You're going to jump something. So we want you. We're going to use your aggressiveness against you.
10:29Shannon Sharpe:And Diggs, he's not in Dallas anymore. And people go like, well, you know, that's why. No. No, that's not the reason why. That's not the reason why. I'm not going to let y 'all put all this on Diggs. Has Diggs played his best football the last couple years? No. But there have been a lot of guys that hadn't played their best football. Y 'all think Deron Bland played his best football? Y 'all played him? He just got that bag bag. Y 'all think he played his best? There are a lot of guys that hadn't lived up to expectations. That's a part of it.
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15:38Shannon Sharpe:Also, Lamar Jackson said he's planning to play Sunday against the Steelers at the regular season finale. Lamar told the reporters, 100%, I'm going to be out there. While he missed Saturday's victory over Green Bay with a back contusion, he's been a field participant in practice Wednesday and Thursday. Lamar added he's planning to wear some protective padding for the back Sunday's game. Lamar also addressed some of the skepticism about his ability to play through pain. I've never quit on my team before. I've never quit on anything, to be honest with you. I don't know where the noise came from. Ocho, is this a defining moment for Lamar's legacy?
16:15Oh, defining moment? No, absolutely not. I wouldn't call it a defining moment. Obviously, legacy, it takes time to continue to build. They're going to be ups and downs when it comes to creating that said legacy that we're talking about. For Lamar Jackson, he has a very long way to go. He has a very, very long way to go. I don't like, obviously, when it comes to some of the great players, especially at the quarterback position, you're going to have times like this where there are rumblings, where you have certain people saying certain things, but you really don't understand what it is they're saying and why it's coming about you.
16:48You think about Lamar Jackson, he don't say much. Nope. He don't say much. He don't talk much. So it's hard to be able to text some of the things and say some things that are coming out about him unless you're internally and inside that building, which is weird to me, which is why I said what I said when a certain beat reporter, whether it's a beat reporter for them or whether it's a beat reporter in Baltimore in general. Yeah, Mike Preston.
17:11Shannon Sharpe:I think Mike Preston, is he a Beatle columnist? Because I think Mike Preston, I think he was a beat reporter when I was there. He might be a columnist now, but he... Okay. Yeah, I think if I'm not mistaken, I'm not sure. They're calling Calhoun. Did Calhoun have some things he might have said earlier in the week? Oh, I didn't hear. Oh, Joe, I don't... Yeah, listen, I might be wrong. They're quoting me of some things that only someone internally would know, and I could be wrong about that. But again, listen, this happens. This happens. I think Lamar is going to be fine. rumblings, like I say it all the time, you know how this business works.
17:56You know how this business works. Where there's smoke, there's fire. A little bit. Always. There's always a little bit of truth. So he's going to be fine, whether it's in Baltimore or whether it's somewhere else. Because we know, you and I both know, what another team is getting. He's going to bring to the table. He's going to bring the table and he's going to bring some motherfucking legs with him.
18:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I don't think he's leaving Baltimore. Not no 29-year-old quarterback that's a two-time league MVP. You ain't getting rid of that. Look, and see what happens, Ocho. I don't know if you've ever been nicked and had to leave a game, but I've been nicked and left the game. Right. But, and then the next week I was able to play. There are certain things that happen that you're not able to go back in. You're not able to finish the game. It's okay, it's happened. Lamar Jackson is not the first quarterback that's been knocked out of a game and hasn't been able to go back in. It happens. I don't know.
18:57Shannon Sharpe:Look, if you want to say that he hadn't played up to the Lamar Jackson that we're used to seeing this year, I will concede that. But for you to question how hurt he is, what has he ever done to lead you or make you want to question whether or not he's hurt? everybody have very levels of pain tolerance. Pain tolerance, yes. And people are like, well, shoot. Look, by the time that he shot it up, it's going to take 30 minutes to 40 minutes for the medicine to get in there. The game's over. And he might not be a guy that wants to shoot up. Everybody ain't like me. I'm shooting up and I'm trying to go next week or whatever.
19:37Shannon Sharpe:That's me. Right. But I don't look at somebody because I did something and think they automatically should do something. I've never been like that. Right. I worry about me. That's all I can worry about. That's really all I'm responsible for was me. Right. So I don't – and I agree with Lamar. I don't know what he's done to make you question whether or not he's been hurt. Like, oh, he ain't really hurt with little old back. Well, I've been hitting the back before. It hurt. Oh, just like Ty Simpson. Oh, Joe, you see how Ty Simpson, when he coughed that ball up, I got hit in the back just like that in Kansas City and I coughed that mofo up too.
20:17Right up. Take it. And the funny thing about the people that have never played sports or played anything competitive, you'd have to understand if you get kneed in the back in a certain area, in a soft tissue area, and you get a goddamn back contusion until you felt that, until you felt that goddamn blood harden up and it's stiffened up in that certain area and you can't move and you can't bend, you'll never understand. you'll never understand so i mean listen i had a contusion uh right on right on my thigh someone need me on my thigh and it got to the point on where the contusion was so bad where i couldn't bend my leg yeah yeah i couldn't i couldn't bend my leg that blood settled bingo i mean so i can understand that back area oh my goodness i could just i could just imagine what young bull was
21:07Shannon Sharpe:going through look my thing is and i've been abundantly clear y 'all be honest has lamar jackson looked this year like he did last year and the previous years yes or no be honest no because the numbers are not the same as they were last year i'll keep it 41 i'm saying hold on he was 48 he was 41 and 5 last year huh thank you or take the mvp even if you take the seasons he got hurt a couple I think 2021 he missed four games missed five games each year so that's ten games but if you go back and look at the season that he's won the MVP and last year he could have won. Chad don't do that because I'm saying he doesn't look the same this year as he has in years past.
21:51Shannon Sharpe:Right. That's not hating. That is factual. How many touchdowns has he passed for this year? How many interceptions does he have. So when you look at it, if you just look at it objectively, I get it. That's your guy. You supposed to ride for your guy. But deep down, and if you want to say, Shannon, you hate it, but deep down inside, deep down inside, you know, man, Lamar ain't played like he been, like the Lamar Jackson, like Action Jackson. I know. Right, right, right. That's it. You can be honest. I was honest when I said it about Patrick Mahomes. Who the heck? I called him a homeboy. State Farm didn't want to give me no credit.
22:32Shannon Sharpe:they call him my homie. Ain't nobody ever called that man my homie or my homeboy before I said it. They call him Patrick Mahomes. I said last year and this year, Patrick Mahomes doesn't look the same. And y 'all look at it because he went to the Super Bowl. But still, you've got to peel the layers away. It's okay. Yeah, the numbers aren't the same. I got no doubt. Look, I want the Ravens to win. Outside of the Broncos, the Ravens is outroot for the Ravens. obviously. But at the end of the day, I still got to be honest. And when the Broncos don't play well, oh, y 'all forget that though. But I get it.
23:14Shannon Sharpe:You know, you know what? You more hard on black quarterbacks. I don't know. I got into a very heated discussion with my partner on television. What quarter, what color was that quarterback, Ocho? Yeah, he would, he would, he would, he would, he would, he would white. So y 'all missed that part of what me and Skip got into it about Brady. or when I was on Romo. Y 'all missed that part. What about Cousins? Baker Mayfield. Did y 'all forget about how we went for eight, nine straight weeks until the man got traded, even when he got to Carolina? I was still on Baker's neck. What were y 'all doing? Yeah.
23:48Hey, one thing I can say about you, boy. It don't matter who it is. Black, white, yellow, green, Skittles. It don't matter what it is, what you feel. If you're playing bad, you're going to say they're playing bad. That's all I'm saying.
24:03Shannon Sharpe:If they're playing good, you're going to say they're playing good. I'm going to say that. I don't try. And people see a lot of times, Ocho, what people try to do. If I say, man, Ocho didn't play good. I'm trying to take away your Pro Bowls. I'm trying to take away your All-Pro. No, you did that. That's going to be on your resume. Right. I'm talking about right now. Yeah, that's all. I'm talking about right now. I stayed on Romo. When Brady didn't play good, I was on Brady. When Baker didn't play good, I was on Brady. Baker. When Peyton Manning didn't play good, I was on Peyton when he was losing no playoff game.
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24:36Shannon Sharpe:But y 'all don't remember that. They might be too young to remember that, huh? They remember when I was on break. Hold on. They ain't too young to remember what just happened two years ago. Oh, okay. On Undisputed. They remember. Oh, yeah. They choose not. They just try to wear this and... Nah, nah, bro. when Mahomes didn't play when Mahomes wasn't playing well this year and last year where did he end up two things can be true you can end up at a destination and still not be playing well it happens all the time but this I'm saying Lamar doesn't look the same to me when he came he wasn't playing well before not like the Lamar we used to seeing and then when he got nicked and came back he wasn't the same even his mom said in the play leading up to the playoffs he should have run more but when I said it I'm hating his mom told him yeah baby do what you do best now do what you do best no goalpost moving his coordinator said this is the first time if he practice tomorrow he will have practiced Wednesday Thursday Friday since week 10.
25:59Shannon Sharpe:Normally, Ocho, when you're healthy, you practice, right? Practice, yeah, especially the quarterback. Especially the quarterback. Because his is all about timing. It's all about timing. Right.
26:15Shannon Sharpe:Man, y 'all need to y 'all gotta y 'all gotta stop making everything. So, I guess when I don't know. I need to see Orlowski. No, I can't. He the wrong guy to ask because he's going to support every quarterback. But I need some of these white guys to do what we do. When they criticize a white quarterback, I wonder if the white people come in their chat and come on their DM and say, you hate him. Because I want to see. I got to see. Because I know that's what we do. Yeah.
26:48Shannon Sharpe:I just want to see Ochoa. I just want to see for a day. god damn it what happened my goddamn light went out man oh i just thought you was dark skin nah man that's not funny man like ain't nothing going right with this today my camera hey you ain't noticed my camera went just clear not too long ago huh you look the same no earlier you ain't notice it yeah i did notice it okay okay yeah i got it i got a i got a new camera i got a sony i got a sony a7 a new sony a7 then i got the new type c uh what you call it type c i don't understand all this shit um but i had dean dean a friend of mine obviously ash no dean hey matter of fact ash thank you ash because because you allow me to meet dean he helped me change my whole goddamn setup so i'm gonna be professional like um give me about two more weeks.
27:47Hey, I'm going to have my own team. It's just going to be two people, though.
27:57Yeah, I'm going to have my own team. I'm excited. That would be awesome.
28:01Shannon Sharpe:Look, this would be huge for Lamar. They've been down. They haven't been in first place in the division, and now all of a sudden, they come back and win the division. He missed the game, and that's what your quarterback's supposed to do. What What does the backup supposed to do? Keep you afloat until the starter comes back. We saw Matt Jones do it for San Francisco. Keep him afloat until the starter gets back. Boom. Now you're in position. Okay, Lamar. Winner take all. You got two former MVPs locked up. Last game of the season. Winner take all. Yeah. It's going to be a good thing. And matter of fact, all the rumblings and all the noise, it's going to quiet everybody.
28:46It is. Especially with the way the Ravens started the season. Ofer with a donut. And they come out on the back end. You know, listen, this is not a sprint. It's a marathon. It ain't how you start. It's how you finish. So if they finish with the win and make the playoffs and win the AFC North, well, guess who's going to get the credit? The same one they've been talking about. Yes.
29:09Shannon Sharpe:So I honestly. Look, he's going to have to play well because the defense, they don't rush the quarterback. Right. The last guy that you want to have is somebody as accurate as Aaron Rodgers, then you can't get pressure on him. Oh, yeah. That's the problem. But you know what the good thing is for the Raven defense is even if you don't rush Aaron Rodgers, who the hell finna get open and catch the ball? Brother Darnell Washington is out. He hurts. His arm is broken. DK is out. I mean where's my offense probably gonna be out again so you ain't got nobody but Gainwell, Frymouth uh uh uh oh uh MBS Valdez-Scantlin Adam Thielen so now where's my offensive production gonna come from where my big play big play is gonna my chunk plays you mean to tell me I have to drive the ball all the way down the field 75 80 yards every time it's gonna be perfect because who your playmakers back there on the back end.
30:07Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if you noticed but you see how they be giving up yards at the Ravens secondary? Oh yeah. So, hey, whoever number two on, you getting the ball. Hey, Nate Wiggins had a bad game, huh? He had a bad season. He's had a bad season. It was that bad? I don't really watch the Ravens. Ask the Ravens fans what they think. Hey, Ravens fans, if y 'all are in the chat, Nate Wiggins it was that bad this year huh was it that bad this year talk to me talk to me nice too now
30:48yes
30:57Shannon Sharpe:Marlon ain't been the same I don't know if he broke his hand because you see him had like he had something cast up he had the patent on there he cast up
31:10no some people yeah the chat is kind of conflicted most of them saying Marlon
31:16Shannon Sharpe:oh yeah Marlon's been bad the secondary has been bad what is the Ravens secondary rank in pass coverage but a lot of that has contributed to the front yeah not being able to get any pressure not being able to get any pressure right they say yeah Nate Nate having a down year but Marlon is worse
31:38Shannon Sharpe:with the Ravens secondary with the pass defense because I don't think they got nobody with five sacks I think I think the person leading in sacks he might have six if I'm not mistaken the DN I can't remember his last name I think he has six they're 20 they're 30th in pass defense 30th there's only 32 teams God damn. Okay, now that's bad. There are two teams worse in pass defense, and they both of them got seeds, Colts, Cowboys. Hey, I'm glad my bangles ain't in that. You see that? You see we moving on up. Y 'all 27. I couldn't let you get too happy. You started to celebrate too much. Hey, that don't make it no better.
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36:45Shannon Sharpe:They brought in Hall of Fame quarterback ESPN analyst Troy Aikman as a consultant to advise organization on his general manager search. It's not a permanent role, but he'll be an advisor throughout the process for the Dolphins' next general manager. Miami ownership wanted outside respected perspective from someone who had a strong relationship across the league. Damn. The team that he won three, no, but what do you like this? I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it because this is an organization that has no ego and has no pride and understands the direction in which they want to go. Let's go to someone who's been there before.
37:23Let's go to someone who's won three Super Bowls and can help guide us in the right direction on who we want to put in a position to make the right calls for our organization going forward. And the most important call is going to be a quarterback. so why not get a Super Bowl winning quarterback who's been there and done that and knows the ins and outs of what we need to do now we're not asking for a permanent position just give us some guidance you know what do you think about that guy yeah it's like having a GPS you know exactly where to go right you know exactly where to go with your GPS but the directions the directions that it provides you with it allows you to get there much easier.
38:12Yep. So that's what Troy Aikman is for the goddamn Miami Dolphins and I like it.
38:16Shannon Sharpe:I know a team that you need some expertise about a general manager. I wish he would have put his ego and pride aside and allowed him to do exactly what Troy is doing for the goddamn Dolphins over there for the star. Jerry can't put his pride aside. Jerry won all the credit. he can get the credit. He can get it. Mm-mm. He's the owner. That's why he can't bring in a strong coach. He thought about hiring Sean Payton. He was never going to hire Sean Payton because Sean Payton is going to have control. You're not – Sean Payton is going to have control. He's going to have control over that 53, and he's going to have some control in the draft and free.
38:55Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. Right, right, right, right. Ocho, you got to realize he was the coach at New Orleans for umpteenth years. Yes, sir. Where he had control. You mean to tell me he can go into a situation and have no control? And just be a figurehead? Just be a face? Right. That's why he wasn't going to have to hire Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson's like, no, bro. I'm not going to let you just put players on my team that I don't want or need. Right, right, right, right. He was never going to get somebody like that. Now, hopefully, Shotty can change the system, change the culture. I think he has a good system.
39:30Shannon Sharpe:But they need defensive help. Like I said, you look at Dak. He's leading the league in passing. He got two 1 ,000-yard receivers, 1 ,000-yard rusher, and they missed the playoffs. Hey, they ain't got no problems on offense. I mean, you look at the Cowboys' offense, it's similar to that of the Bengals' offense. They ain't got no problems on offense. Well, I think most people, when it comes to us offensively, they'll talk about our offensive line and not being able to keep Joe Burrow upright. Right. But they got them Cowboys and Bengals, but defensively, hey, we need the overhaul. We both need an old haul And I already said what I wanted I told Jeffrey Simmons I told Jeffrey Simmons Jeffrey Simmons made the Pro Bowl right Unk?
40:14Yeah Yeah so I'm gonna see Jeffrey down there in Orlando And I'm gonna put a little bug in his ear You know you can do two things I'm gonna tell you like I told Miles Garrett You know there are consequences And repercussions You feel me? You know, so in the offseason.
40:35Shannon Sharpe:Probo's in San Francisco, Ocho. They moved it? Yeah. Okay. We're going to be there anyway. So, I mean, what's the right? Listen, I mean, you get beat up. Not the week before. Remember, that's the week before, Ocho. Well, we're going to be there, though, right? Ocho, it's that Saturday before. We don't get there until that Tuesday. Well it looks like I'm gonna have to make me an early trip then Well you go right ahead Yeah On the Tuesday we get there See I told you He gonna be there I ain't going Ash just told you we gotta be there No we gotta be in San Francisco we ain't gotta be there Oh I see what you mean Yeah Hey chat for those you for those.
41:28Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man, look, I don't want to see. We the era, you know, it's different now. I mean, in the game, it's flagging and it's, you know, right, right. Bullying, you know, dodgeball and it's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That ain't, you know, catching the ball. Yeah. I understand. I understand. I understand. And plus, you know, the thing was, it used to be, Ocho, you wanted to you wanted to you wanted to promo to be after the Super Bowl because you want to flex if you won. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember how everybody used to come over there and everybody, hey, man, congratulations, hey, man, let me get you a drink.
42:03Shannon Sharpe:It was a big thing. Right. It ain't that no more. It's so antic. Before, think about it, because a lot of the guys that was in the Super Bowl, they were going to be in the Pro Bowl. Yeah, you right. You right. It is what it is. Ocho. Yeah. You think Jerry would ever do something like this, get some outside input hey um you know how jerry is i've come to learn more about jerry now that i'm not a player now that i'm on the other side of the fence and now i'm able to see exactly how jerry operates and handles and runs that organization yeah uh it would never happen it would never happen i never knew jerry was like this obviously because i was playing the game and i didn't know so it's hard for me to see from the out from that from the field from the field looking in.
42:53I thought he was one of the greatest owners of all time. As far as marketing, he is the greatest. Marketing and what is one thing that I was great at when I was playing? Marketing. I saw him in a completely different light. Now I'm on the other side of the fence and now I'm looking, well God damn, I understand why the brand, the product, it sells itself. The star sells itself. You've done a great job at putting them in that light. But, Jared, the other thing that you can do as well, that can take that brand and that marketing availability to the next level, but he doesn't see fit because, like you say, he wants the credit.
43:32Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, Ocho, is like one of your greatest, the guy that helped you win three Super Bowls, you don't think enough of his Ackman, his football Ackman, to tap into that reserve. Another team does.
43:53another team. Well, maybe with him seeing another team do it, maybe he comes to a census and says, you know what? Why don't I use Troy in that same manner as well?
44:05Shannon Sharpe:I guarantee you Troy will be 10 times better than Jerry at it. Ooh. I bet you. Now, look, Jerry ain't watching no tape. Jerry has Will McClay, and he's like, okay, these are the guys we got, these are the guys we want, and he breaks it down like that. Jerry not watching no tape. So Jerry get on there and talk about he know football, he knows from the jocks to everything. No, he doesn't. You get Jerry in front of the thing, so okay, Jerry, what coverage are they playing? Jerry, what's this formation? You don't think Jerry can break it down like that, huh? No? After all these years? Absolutely not.
44:48Shannon Sharpe:1 ,000 % not. He wouldn't know 11 personnel, 12 personnel, 13 personnel, 21 personnel. He wouldn't know any of that. Hey, that's funny. Two by two, three by one, none of that. No, absolutely not. I'm sitting here trying to picture it too. Jerry Jones being able to break down film the same way. Like a Troy Aikman or like a coach? Or like a John Gruden. You know how John Gruden break that thing down? Mad piece.
45:21I'm just trying to picture that that's funny
45:25Shannon Sharpe:it's about Jerry playing college football yeah 70 years ago wait Jerry played football for real yeah at Arkansas he's on the national championship team him and Jimmy offensive line he's so little they were little back then Oh, he wasn't fat and lost weight? No, they were small back in the line. That was like, I think that was, wasn't Arkansas winning the championship, 64? Is that when Arkansas won the national championship? That might have been 64. Okay, okay, okay. Because I think Jerry's the same age as my mom. Hey, I'm confused, huh? Hold on, he went to college, he played at Arkansas, so he won the lotto or something to come into that kind of money to be able to buy the all cowboys?
46:15Shannon Sharpe:They had some money. They had a little money now. Oh, they was already good. Yeah. I mean, he made more. They didn't have it that, but he was okay. They were okay. Yeah. Oh, that's a nice little backstory. I don't know about the backstory. Okay. I mean, he was, look, he wasn't, he wasn't thin like he is now. Well, how much, Jared probably weighed 200 pounds, 210. Right. Okay. But you got to realize, offensive linemen went big like they are not for sure
46:49okay i like it i like it yeah i sure i sure would like the backstory on how you go from actually playing college football being a lineman and then owning jerry richardson did that
47:01Shannon Sharpe:huh jerry richardson did that used to own the carolina panthers he played football did he play ball too yes George Hallis also oh but you got to realize you could buy a team I mean you bought a team for two thousand dollars but do you know how much two thousand dollars was back then or you've spent twenty five thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars do you know how much money that was back then right damn you you look at you look at today's turn it wasn't like that back then. Right. I think the Steelers, I think Mr. Rooney bought the Steelers for like$3 ,300 bucks. That he wanted the tracks.
47:44Shannon Sharpe:Oh, come on now. Yes. See how much they purchased the Steelers for.
47:53Shannon Sharpe:Jared Richardson. He started out, played football. He was on the with Raymond Berry and him. I think they won the championship. Right. in 1933 for a$2 ,500 franchise fee. He saw him he won at the racetrack. Yeah. Steelys were bought. The franchise fee was$2 ,500 in 1933. He won the money at the racetrack. See? See, I'm sorry about it. But do you know, Ocho, they were just getting out of the Great Depression. Do you know how much$2 ,500 was? That's a lot of money back then, huh? What? Oh,$2 ,500. Are you hearing what you're saying? Yes. Think about, was$25 ,000 a lot of money when you was a kid?
48:40Shannon Sharpe:Oh, for us? For me? Boy, I would have been rich. Hey, so go back 60 more years. You know, it's hard for me to fathom and grasp the concept. Maybe because I've... Never mind. God damn. You look at it. See, you looking at what you got now, and you looking at it in today's terms, but you got to look back then. Right. Okay. I got to put myself back there in the 60s or 30s. Okay. Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase both came out and spoke today about the Bengals' disappointing season and what needs to change to get this team back to the Super Bowl. Burrow said, we don't want to be in the spot where we are right now, so something's got to change.
49:28Shannon Sharpe:Whether it's players, we're continuing to improve and get better and play championship caliber football or bringing in guys that will or whatever they may be. Obviously, something has to change. Chase, I think some of the things are pretty obvious, what we need to change. At the end of the day, I can't really say or put emphasis on what needs to be changed because it's not my role, but it's pretty obvious. Defense and what some of the issues need to be changed. I love Chase. Chase said, hey, my role. They explained me to catch passes, score touchdowns. That's what I'm going to do. But y 'all know what it is.
50:03Yeah, hey, listen. We know what the elephant in the room is. I mean, Chase and Jamar don't – I mean, Chase and Jamar. Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase don't need to say it. I'm not sure why the media is even asking them questions. They know what the problem is. We know what the problem is. Those that aren't Bengal fans know what the problem is. We know what issues need to be addressed in the offseason, in the draft. And I'm hoping that we continue based on some of the things that Joe Burrow has said. He's put everybody on alert. He's put everybody on alert. And we need to do what's necessary to continue to keep our team in an advantageous position to compete for Lombardi every single year.
50:45Continue to put pieces, not around me offensively, because you've done everything you can for us offensively. Well, you can prove offensively. I won't be mad if you improved the offensive line. You can do that. Maybe add another piece somewhere in the guard area. I would like a nice centerpiece, well, at the center position, which most of the time is the weak link on most teams. But defensively, we need to attack. We need to attack in the offseason and in the draft defensively. I personally, Chad, I want us to go get Jeffrey Simmons. I'm going to talk to Jeffrey Simmons at the Pro Bowl. Yeah, I want to go get Jeffrey Simmons.
51:27Huh? Let's solidify somebody up there on that front end. On that front end, you know? And I'm not sure what's going to happen. I'm sure Trey Henderson is gone. Uh-uh?
51:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, oh yeah, he gone. Okay, Trey Henderson is gone. I'm not sure if we can get another premier defense in. You know? But I know we're going to get Jeffrey Simmons. I told Jeffrey, we've had multiple conversations. and I don't want it to come to a rift. So I need to make sure that happens. I'm doing my due diligence for the organization as well on the outside. Ocho, I'm going to give you some key figures from 1933. The average home price cost between$3 ,900 and$5 ,700. The average income was around$1 ,300 to$1 ,700. dollars. A new car cost roughly 600 to 800 dollars. And gasoline was 10 to 18 cents a gallon.
52:27Hey, what would you do for us to be back in those time for them kind of prices?
52:31Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to be back to my brother. That was the Great Depression. People were jumping out of the way to kill this. No, I don't want to be back there. I'm doing right here, right now. Okay, I understand. I'm just saying with the price point, with the price point. Oh, Joe, blacks weren't making money like that. Do you understand if the average blacks weren't they didn't include us in the average I understand what you're saying but you know everybody complained about the goddamn prices today you were a sharecropper do you understand what you was doing you was making pennies if the average income was$1200 to$1700 there probably wasn't a thousand black people in the country making that kind of money hell no I don't want to go back there Well, you know what I'd have been doing back then?
53:20You know what I'd have been doing back then? Hustling like a lot of other black people was doing. Yeah, exactly. Boy, I would have been the best bootlegger there is. You hear me? Yeah. I would have had the best rum. Like, what's the two brothers from Sinners?
53:38Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I know what you're talking about, yeah. I forgot the twins name in Sinners, boy. Hey, I grew up in the late 60s, early 70s, and I know how hard we had it. I know what my grandmother, how my grandmother said they doing, you know, five, ten loads of laundry for a quarter a day. Man, please. A quarter? Yes. What do you think black people ate all those scraps? You wasn't getting steak. You wasn't eating hamburgers. You had to eat oxtail. You had to eat neck bone. That's where pig feet, chitlins, pigtails, that's where that came from. I don't know what people thought they were you getting ribs, beef ribs.
54:23Shannon Sharpe:Nah. Hell nah. Hell to the night. Now I'm going to let you have that with Ocho. You go back there and let me know what it's like. Nah, I'm talking about the price. I ain't talking about what you had to deal with. I'm just talking about the numbers. That's it. What the hell? How you going to get? So you think you're going to be able to go back there with the money you got now and just transport yourself. I ain't say I wanted to go back there. I said living today, could you imagine if the prices were as low and affordable as they were back then? Hell no, that's impossible. Yeah, I know that. I know that.
54:57I'm just saying. Everybody complained about everything today. Oh, the price of eggs. Oh, milk so goddamn high. Eggs, see how much eggs are. I mean, yeah, of course. That's why I'm just saying in general, what if it was a little bit more affordable where people wasn't living goddamn paycheck to paycheck. People have been living paycheck to paycheck. What you mean? They ain't just started, Ocho. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm just saying, huh? It'd be a little easier. That's why you need the right people in position of power that make the cause.
55:29Shannon Sharpe:But every time you think you get the right people, they get corrupted too. Because how you think they got the power? Hey, I'm glad you know. See, that's why stay out of politics because you got to be crooked. You can't never be straight and be in the politics. Like I said, look, I remember when I was a kid, minimum wage was $3.37 an hour. I was a kid 40 years ago, 50 years ago. Goddamn. So now, yeah. But now, Ocho, guess what? It's$7.25. That's it? So you're talking about 50 years ago. It's only gone up you know it's doubled what the hell is what kind of bull job is that now you look at CEOs, COOs and you look at everybody else's income it's going up exponentially so that's why people say they live in paycheck to paycheck because a lot the people that was here money has gone here people that was here money hadn't gone nowhere Hey, it's a dirty game.
56:39Shannon Sharpe:And prices, home, you ain't buying no home now for no$5 ,900. Nah. I mean, pretty soon the average house of a home going down there will cost you a million dollars. Who the hell is going to be able to afford the American dream? Pretty soon they're going to tell you to stop dreaming. Don't dream no more because that issue ain't coming true. You know, you know. Yes. You know what? I'm going to have my sister to send my thing because I remember when I was working, I got a W-2 form from 1977. Damn, you still got it? Yeah. But you keep every goddamn thing, man. How many nine-year-olds you know got a W-2 form?
57:21Shannon Sharpe:I was working. I've been working all my life. That's all I've done. Well, I got a better one for you. How many two-year-olds you know had cable and a washing machine and dry in their name. We didn't even have cable. You couldn't get cable in the country back then. Matter of fact, I had bad credit before I could walk. How about that? Shit. Hey, they got you. They got you. Yeah. I mean, the old American dream. Huh? The question is, who's dreaming it? And which America is it? That's a good one. Come on now. It ain't got to be Sunday for you to preach. man please man please my grandmother my grandfather left my grandma in debt like $2 ,500
58:14Shannon Sharpe:Well, you know, I remember last my sister, my grandma told my sister, this is the last payment, ain't it Libby? She's like, yes, ma 'am. Man, it took us like, well, it took my grandma like 10 years, 15 years to pay off$2 ,500. Woo! You got to realize my grandma wasn't making about$197 every two weeks? Yeah. How the hell you going to feed me, Spanky, Libby, at the time, Marinel, Gladys lived at the house for probably about a year that she left away in Chicago with my mom, Sharmadina Jane. How the hell you going to feed that?
58:53Shannon Sharpe:$5 here,$10 there. That's why we worked in the summer, or we got little side jobs picking up PKs, clipping onions. That's why we chipped in, because we saw how hard it was for granted to try to, Man, run out of gas. We used to have a big propane tank. They don't have them anymore, but we used to have a big 200-gallon propane tank. Yes, sir. You run out of gas, Ocho. Well, granny ain't got no money. You got no money to pay. Me and my brother have to go down there, chop down a tree, cut it up, pull the heater from the fireplace, put it down, boom. You don't know how many times me and my brother done put sweet potatoes in the hot ashes, let them cook, because we got no gas stove don't work Ocho.
59:35Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Man, please. People can't tell me nothing about no hard times. I ain't telling what somebody told me when somebody was talking about. I'm talking about the 70s and the 80s. I lived it. Yeah. People talk about, oh, I lived it. So when people talk about hard times, man, please. What we got here? Ian Rappaport reports that the Giants are expected to look at all options if they get their hands on the top pick in April. Rappaport expect them to evaluate all options, including looking at Fernando Mendoza before they make the decision on how they're going to proceed if they have this pick. Dart said this week he hadn't heard much from the report, but made it clear he sees he's the future in New York.
1:00:21Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to continue to play ball, play my ball. I know I'm going to be here for a very long time. I'm excited to start winning more games and turn this place around, do my job we have a bright future and i'm standing on the sideline watching abdul ball watching d.a ball scat was uh was here today when you think about this rookie class we have a really bright future and we're going to do a really big pivot and turn this thing around ocho yes sir for me it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense it wouldn't make any sense that it wouldn't make any sense that got a quarterback but go ahead ocho what you thinking it wouldn't make any sense at all you got something special in jackson dark now we we get we get we could pull the reins back on him a little bit and get him to be a little bit more cautious in the way he plays the back position you know he's gonna be all right but he brings something that listen i like mcdozer i like mcdozer i like him on but he's not jackson dark he's not going to breathe that kind of excitement and put butts in the seat like jackson dart and goddamn scatterbo can do nope he's not I agree.
1:01:22He definitely not. Completely different individual. If you listen to his interviews, he's not ready for that New York media. That ain't for him. That ain't for him. Jackson daughter is perfect for that situation. He's perfect for the atmosphere, that environment. Being in New York, that is the perfect place for him. He's going to be all right. We just got to tone some things down in the game. and he's going to be all right. Other than that, that's all. But all that, they can check all the options in every other area except quarterback. Ocho, the Buffalo Bills are asking fans
1:02:07Shannon Sharpe:to help shovel snow at Highmark Stadium before this weekend's game. Anyone 18 years of older get$20 per hour with food and hot beverage provided. Ocho I'd have been there Wait how much? $20 an hour What time the stadium open? I'm going to get that Oh And food? Listen I don't need no food Give me a hot dog Give me a hot dog and some hot cocoa I got you 20 hours I'd be there all day Ocho you do realize Glizzy's a food right? My bad that's a snack They probably play, they say they play you in glizzes. That's fine. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm going to get my$20 hour. Don't do that. I'm going to get my$20 hour.
1:02:53And I want to make sure I spend it. I want to spend it. I want to be there all day, too. Oh, you want to go to the game? No. Aion, you want to go out there? Who? Go where? And go shovel.
1:03:05Shannon Sharpe:No. Mm-mm. Okay. That would have been some great content, man. No, it ain't going to be a good content. You had that shovel in snow? Mm-mm. $20 an hour? See, I don't know if you really done manual labor, but when you've done manual labor for over a decade, you're good on it. You're cool on it. I did construction work, Unc. I did. I did. Landscaping did all that. Yeah. Poor concrete, concrete, laid asphalt. Yep. Landscaping, Unc, I was cutting grass at eight years old. That was part of my chores on Saturday. Yes. I had a lawnmower. Well, I'm glad they let you get to be eight before you started doing it.
1:03:45Shannon Sharpe:Damn. What we talking about? My grandma had me out there in her rose bed. I'm the one that had to dig them holes in the garden. I know about it. You're labor, man. I'm out there with the guard gloves on that don't fit. Three sides is too big. Damn, you had gloves and everything. Damn. You had a worker. Yeah. Man, I still got calluses on my hand from laying bricks. What we talking about? Look at this. Boy, when you using that hammer or that shovel, and you ain't got no gloves that first day, them hands bad. Your hands hurt so bad. Like, Lord, I sure hope I ain't got to go in the morning. All right, I'll see you boys tomorrow.
1:04:29Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Yeah. I sure do want to tell Grant I don't want to go back. Son, go on. Hey, son, go on out there. That's a good piece of job. You mean it's a good piece of job? Working 12 hours a day for$10,$15? You think that's good? Hey. Where else you going to make that kind of money?
1:04:53Shannon Sharpe:Boy, my grandma, hey, look here, man. You could have worked$15. Man, can you$5? That's good money. What? I mean, what? I understand, Granny. You work, and it was a quarter for all the loads of laundry that you and Grandma Lou and Annie Mae had to do. Granny, that was 40 years ago. That's 50 years ago. Right. $2 ain't a lot of money, Granny.
1:05:25Shannon Sharpe:Damn. My grandma thought any denomination of money was good money. It was good money. Yes, yes, yes.
1:05:38Shannon Sharpe:but that's where it comes from. That's how I'm wired. I'm a provider. There wasn't a whole lot, but working in the summer. We worked in the summer. We caught chickens. Once tobacco was over, we still caught chickens during the season. Come pecan. Well, pecans were like in the winter, picking up pecans. We did that. Then when spring come around, it was time to clip onions. those by there your onions that y 'all be eating yeah that's what was in the field you got 50 cent you got 50 cent a hamper I give I make me a quick you know I make me a quick 10-15 dollars and you know what you could do with 15 dollars back then I know what I could do hold on when I was a kid buy some lead jeans you know what you could do with 15 dollars back when I was a kid go to the candy lady house you know how much 15 dollars can carry you at the candy lady house back in the 80s no ten dollars no five dollars because ten of us got to go to granny you got to help pay some bills you ain't gonna just get all that money and just keep it for yourself
1:06:48huh oh that's what you thought nah i'm not okay for me for me it was chore money you know it was chore money i understand once i wash my clothes once i cut that grass once i get out there in that in that rose bed once i pick the mangoes that are that are that are ripe off the that are ripe off the tree yeah once i sweep them goddamn leaves any leaves that was in the yard once i wash them cars come on now i know i got i got me a good 10 10 15 dollars coming nope man can't tell
1:07:17Shannon Sharpe:me nothing i hear that ice cream truck coming hey i'm ready bad please that was me and my brother was talking when he was out here he said man he was looking at he was walking around the house he that sent my sister-in-law a picture, my niece. He's like, boy, we sitting on the back just talking. Yeah. I said, man, I said, when you sit back here, what you think? I said, think of how fortunate and how blessed we are. Mm-hmm. I remember it used to rain. You have to go to the bathroom. Be soaking wet, Ocho. Mm. Soaking wet. Mosquitoes. You're in the South. Mosquitoes are bad. I remember all that and I'm just sitting on nice nice and I'm just sitting there just thinking mm-hmm God you've been better than me and I even deserve yes, I don't even know what I did to deserve this favor, but I thank you so Man I just wish I wish my girl because she was man I remember the first time I took my grandma to my house in Atlanta Ocho She was pulling up because she rode with me Turn down the street like, Ooh, Ooh.
1:08:40Shannon Sharpe:She's like, boy, you living here? I said, yes, ma 'am. So I turn in there and pull up the driveway, hit the button. The garage goes up. Yeah. She walk in there. My sister come up. She's like, Libby, there's too much house. I never thought I believe it. I never thought I see, I see this day she bragged about that everybody all my uncles all my aunts people that she went to church with you want to see that boy house if she saw this one Lord have mercy you know what that remind me of while you sitting there explaining remember the American Gangsta yeah when Denzel called and mama saw the house yes remind me of that yes that's exactly how my grandma was yeah she's like oh she's like man she brags so much whoo leave it that boy guy I sure hate to have to clean this I said granny I don't clean it that's why I pay somebody hell to the dog I don't do nothing but it was I mean she was just so proud and man that's why I'm so appreciative of everything Ocho I know how hard I work to get in the position that I'm in.
1:10:00Shannon Sharpe:I don't take any of that. I've never shied away from hard work. That's what I know. What you going to do? I don't know what I would do. I don't know if I could just sit still and not do nothing. You like me. You know, I got 274 jobs. I can't sit still. I can't. I got to be doing something. I got to be doing something. I do too. yeah I don't know if I could just I don't know if I could just sit still I gotta do something even if I don't do number one day a week I gotta do something I gotta feel like I gotta get up to do something because if I don't feel like I gotta get up to do nothing I'm like what's my purpose I mean you gotta have a purpose I want you to make sure you keep the same energy too when we win a lotto when we win a lotto I don't want to hear nothing but no you taking a vacation and you ain't showing up because you just said You got to be doing something.
1:10:55When we hit for about maybe$600,$700,$800 million, make sure you show up on this show every Monday, every Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday.
1:11:05Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm going to take some CTO. What's that? Choice time off. PTO is paid time off. I'm taking CTO. Choice time off. I'm headed. Hey, I'm leaving on the next plane. I don't know when I'll be back again. Right. That's all right. As long as they got Wi-Fi. You good. Wherever you going. I'm going to be connected to something, okay? I'm going to be plugged in. I promise you that, Ocho. I promise you that.
1:11:44Shannon Sharpe:All right, guys. We're going to get you here out of this. It's time for our final segment. The evening. It's time for Q and A. Oh, boy. That was a good one. That was a good one.
1:12:00Shannon Sharpe:Phil F. McNasty, when you guys watch film, what exactly are you looking for? Why watch so much film? I don't want to be a football coach. I'm sure he can be a live coach with all that advice. Happy 2026, y 'all. What are we looking for?
1:12:17Shannon Sharpe:Well, it all depends because they break the film down. Okay, you got first and 10. so they'll put all the plays down. So we go back four games. You'll look at what the defense they played on first and 10. Then you'll go back and look at second and 10. Then you got second and one to five. Then you got third and long. So third and one to three, third and three to five, third and long. So you're breaking it down, okay? Now they're going to say, okay, red zone. I'm looking at what they play. When do they play this coverage? I'm looking at the guy. Now, okay, let's just say I got the sound backer. I'm looking at, I'm going to watch for like 10, 15 minutes.
1:12:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to watch his feet. Are they staggered? Can I get a cue if he's blitzing, if he's dropping in coverage, or is he sitting heavy to play to try to stop the run, make sure he doesn't get reached? So you look at an area of the field, down in distance. So you're looking at all that, the coverages that they play against the formations. Then we got a formation. Okay, 21 personnel. They play this coverage. 11 personnel, which is one tight end, three wide receivers. They play this personnel. 12 personnel, they play this. So you're looking at coverages of what they play against certain formations of what you see.
1:13:35So let's just say we play in the Bengals.
1:13:39Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. We're going to go back. The Bengals play the Ravens. The Bengals play the Steelers. The Bengals play the Cowboys. The Bengals play the Bears. Okay. when they played the Bengals and 12 personnel, they played this. When they played the Steelers, they played that. When they played this, they played that. So you got to look at all that. I memorized all the plays. All the plays. So all 150, 175 plays, I remember. That's why when John tells the story, we were in the AFC Championship game, they called 324. Actually, we flipped the formation. It was 325, all pivot. And I was like, that's not in the game plan.
1:14:20Shannon Sharpe:I said it's not in the game plan. Right. And now you notice, everybody notice, like when I start getting animated, my voice gets high. It's not the game plan. It's not the game plan. John said, it is now. Now go down there and get open. I was like, bro, you should be like, get open. I can do a whole bunch of stuff. So that's mainly what we're looking for. We're looking at like certain formations. What kind of defense are they going to play to this formation? Where are we at? Are we at first down? we're second down, we're third down. Where are we? Are we backed up? We're at midfield. We're in the red zone plus territory.
1:14:54Shannon Sharpe:And you got to remember, just like that. So they call a play. You got to recall. I'm going to the, okay, they played this. They played this coverage. This is primarily what they played. But they did give a couple snaps of this, and you got to just like that. Yep, you got to recall it right away. The funny thing about it is when you think about the game of football and the way you just explained it, it's a thinking man game, huh? Yes. People in chat, you know, I know you're watching. You're watching from home, but you're not understanding up here, upstairs, you got to be moving fast. You got to be thinking fast.
1:15:24You got to be able to read and react because sometimes, the way Unc just explained it, sometimes they'll throw you a little wrinkle. Yeah, exactly. What you think is coming based on down the distance and what you see, they'll throw something else out there. And you got to be able to read and react on the run and be able to adjust based on what they're doing. All within standing timing of the offense and the play that's called.
1:15:48Shannon Sharpe:the Steelers got me the Steelers was really the team that confused me because I didn't understand Steelers used to be a heavy cover two team but when they played us they played cover six now I'm looking at the backside safety and he's wide but I'm looking at the front side safety he's still in the hash you don't get wide so what they're doing they're playing quarters to my side they're playing half the field to the back side and I'm and and they kept asking me said why am I not getting why why am I not getting why I say because the safety is on the damn hash he's not splitting I'm not reading this cover two it's cover six and so which means quarter quarter half if you notice like when you hear uh quarters corner have a quarter to fill yeah once half safety have a quarter to fill he has a quarter to fill he has a quarter to fill 25 we just call it 25, they call it quarters now, Ocho.
1:16:44Shannon Sharpe:Cover five, which is two, man under. Three, two, that's cover five. So, cover two, obviously, shell, you know, split safeties. Cover one, single high. Cover three, you know, you rock and roll to safety. You come down, you have the safety in the hole, but you're playing strong coverage or weak coverage. It's just like, but you gotta be thinking. Not only have I gotta remember the coverage, okay, this is the play. This is the coverage that I'm expecting to get. But if I don't get that, because in the West Coast system, you got an adjustment basically on everything. Oh, yeah, always. Am I setting it up?
1:17:26Shannon Sharpe:Am I getting down the hole? Am I keeping up the seam? Am I breaking it out? And I got to just remember that. And I got to just like that. All the while, this dude, he got hands on me. I'm trying to get off him. John, I got to speed up because I know them guys trying to knock john head off it's just a lot going on right lany ray happy new year guys thanks to my nightcap fam for helping me get through the toughest year my question is did y 'all make a new year's resolution you got new year's resolution oh joe yeah no i ain't need to make one i ain't never made one i'm consistent in all that i do why i don't have to make resolutions i'm very consistent huh i'm very disciplined in certain areas you know but now i don't i don't make resolutions i'm not sure why people do as well because you got to be real with yourself i am how consistent are you everybody easy everybody make a new year's resolution in january by the time they get by the time they get the goddamn february they done fell off they done fell off i gotta be a couple i got because of red illusion i don't want to say yeah yeah what you got what you working with what you think about
1:18:40Shannon Sharpe:I'll let you know okay okay okay if you don't feel comfortable sharing it with the church don't worry about it you know I might show up with a little one you never know about you never know about you never know about you mumble that I could have swore you say I might show up with a little one yeah you never know Ocho I mean when you say little one what you talking about you know you talk about like well you need huggies okay okay okay I like it there we go hey okay okay you sure hey you do that I'm gonna show you twins yeah I like where you going I like where you going Nick March oh thank you for the words last night I caught the show live very rare 2025 was rough year said tomorrow isn't promised a very close family member took her own life this morning.
1:19:37Shannon Sharpe:I'm with you when you're right, Unk. Nick, I am so sorry to hear that, bro. I am so sorry.
1:19:45Shannon Sharpe:I know that leaves a lot of questions for the family, but sometimes the pain is... They're trying to get out of the pain and that's the only way that they know how. And I am so sorry, bro, but we're praying for you here at Nightcap. Be quiet. Yeah. 70-year-old dad. I'll be going to graduation. I'll be playing college graduation with Social Security. I want my Social Security, all that money I don't put in there talking about they might run out. Don't run out before it's my time to get mine. Let my kids run out on my kids. Let me get mine. They ain't putting that much in yet. Well, Nick, thoughts and prayers go to you, bro.
1:20:29Shannon Sharpe:I am so sorry to hear this about your family, man. But I just want you to know our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family. You have our deepest sympathies and well wishes. Bryce, listen to me now. After they called targeting on ISS, strong safety, I knew it was over. That's the weakest position. Johnny, what did you say about Gunnar's performance? Who got a targeting call?
1:21:04number 20 right from georgia no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah yeah
1:21:13Shannon Sharpe:you didn't think that was targeted yeah you hit him in the head yeah it was it was i mean you can't just because you didn't use your helmet that don't mean you you can't hit him in the head of the neck area even with your shoulder. Yeah, it's tough. Hey, Unk, boy, defenders in general are handicapped so crazy at the collegiate level and the NFL level.
1:21:41Shannon Sharpe:Mike Jones, Mikey Jones, Unk, are we sure Trinidad Chambliss isn't the best quarterback in the draft? No, we're not sure. I mean, everybody's gonna go through their proper evaluations. We'll see. I was very impressed. I've been very impressed with this young man all year. Obviously, we talk a lot about the SEC. We talk about a lot of the Big Ten. So we get an opportunity to see him, and I got an opportunity to see him against Georgia and some of these other teams. And so I've been very impressed with him. His ability to throw on the run and be able to make NFL throws. That's what impressed me tonight.
1:22:13Shannon Sharpe:Look, we know Georgia got guys on that defense that's going to be playing on Sunday. We have the utmost respect for Kirby because we know he gets great talent, and he coaches them up well. The throws that Trinidad Chambliss was making tonight, outrunning some of those fast-ass linebackers and D-linemen to get to the edge and drop dimes, reverse field, come back, throw on ropes, he's very, very, very impressive. I think NFL teams are going to take another look at him and be like, okay, this guy can play for us. OG underscore Thanos 26, do the college football playoff bracket need to be tweaked with teams having first-round bias being 1-7 since last year.
1:22:56Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it's just like, I mean, it happens. So you just want them to start playing right. I think the thing is that's the whole reward for being a top seed is that you get an extra week of rest. But I guess, you know, you're looking at it like. They owe for them. Everybody had a goddamn. Indiana won. They beat the hell out of Alabama. Yep.
1:23:20Shannon Sharpe:I don't know how you can tweak it. I think the thing is, unless you just have them play right away, because, you know, you hear some coaches saying, we want to be O'Don by Jan 1st. Oh, so they got two more games to be played. Yeah. I mean, you got a semifinals and a finals. Yeah. And what is the semifinals? Is it next week or tonight? Oh, that's tonight. That's next week. I don't know why the hell. So that's. Wait, the night. Yeah, the eight. Miami Ole Miss is on Thursday. This week or next week? This week. The week from Zach. Okay. Yeah. And then Oregon, Indiana, Colorado. Wow. Okay.
1:24:08Shannon Sharpe:Ken and Mims, 36-85. Man, no matter who played or the level, Unk and Ocho are the go-to for late night. Salute y 'all. A fan forever. Kenan, appreciate that, bro. We appreciate your support. We appreciate your eyes. We appreciate your ears. And we definitely appreciate your word of mouth because it's because of people like yourself that we're able to continue to grow and continue to be prosperous. So thank you very much, man. Kolodoscope 1. Keep that same energy you have for Bama and TTU which you have for James Madison. And tell Ocho Milk Dud Bean head to stop ducking FIFA. for gold ducks dukes oh here james madison fan here oh man you know y 'all ain't had no business being there hey just like alabama they won the game won't y 'all remember that they did win a game i'm just saying but still they had no business being there just like alabama alabama had every reason to be there the florida man up for head coach at balma no chance i don't want to live in in Alabama.
1:25:12Shannon Sharpe:What's wrong with that? What? Alabama? I grew up in the country. I ain't trying to live in the country no more. You done been in the city long enough? No, I ain't been in the city not long enough. Every time a coaching gig come up, man, there's an opportunity for you. Ain't no opportunity for me. Are you steady closing the door that God opened now? He ain't open it. He opened something else for me. There you go, man. I'm talking about a door. I'm talking about another door. There you go, man. Man, y 'all don't listen to Ocho.
1:25:50Man.
1:25:52Shannon Sharpe:Junior underscore. Three, OSU, Georgia, Bama, all gone. New day for D1 football. Yeah. The blue blood's out of it. No Bama, no Georgia, no Ohio State. Got Ole Miss. got Indiana yeah college playoff looking a little different this year man y 'all don't be following up with Ocho man hey hey you know what I forgot I forgot to say I forgot to tell the chat man I forgot to tell the chat happy new year I remember 2025 like it was yesterday yeah man that was I was supposed to be going to a wedding I ain't going to the wedding who wedding
1:26:45I know you ain't talking about mine because I told you I'm getting married in 2026
1:26:49Shannon Sharpe:I know you're supposed to get married in 2025 I had my white linen I was going to be walking barefoot on the beach yeah yeah you know how life feels life feels I know how it feels life and life yeah it do that you do that but but this is the good thing about life you know is is if it don't work out that time you know god always put something else on your plate that you can eat off of we know you like to eat hey boy who you telling we know you that's one thing about ocho ocho always clean his plate hey every time you know i got i used to get knee pads for christmas I believe it too
1:27:35man
1:27:39Shannon Sharpe:the way you be eating off plates I thought you'd have a Grizzly Adams by now being way down here yeah hey I keep it clean for a reason huh
1:27:54what's the day
1:27:55Shannon Sharpe:the day the first I got six more days it'll be a month What you think Ocho? Hey, but you clean, uh, a matter of fact, hey, you was on the shade room, right? Yeah. Boy, the comments, boy, the women love that salt and pepper, boy. What are the shade room for? I mean, it was just, uh, I think I told a joke or something. I said something. But, hey, but, hey, um, hey, boy, they were like, hey, they were like, oh boy, um, we like that salt and pepper now. We, we, we, yeah, we could, hey, we could do a little something with you now. Yeah, they, they like that. What if I get rid of the beard and just get the goatee?
1:28:31Nah, I think they like the whole thing. The whole thing? Yeah, they like the chin strap. They like the chin strap and all.
1:28:37Shannon Sharpe:Well, okay. Hmm.
1:28:42Shannon Sharpe:Man, my grandma rolling over in a grave. She said, I sure don't like no beards. I agree with you. In 2008, it was the fastest Usain Bolt ran. Yeah, that was special. I just, you know, he wasn't thinking of the time. I understand the jubilation because he was so excited. He was about to win the gold medal, yada, yada, yada. But, man, if he had ran through that tape like he did in Germany, I still believe the time that he ran in Beijing would have been faster than the time that he ran in Germany. That's just me, but hey. Miss Patrice, Oregon wins a big game and no love over here. Great job, my ducks.
1:29:27Shannon Sharpe:No, they look. They play. They can't play like they played today and beat Ole Miss. I mean, you look at it. 47 carries, 64 yards. They didn't run the ball extremely well. It's going to be interesting. Ole Miss can put points on the board. Their defense came to play today. They did a great job. of neutralizing a Texas Tech offense. But this performance today, won't get it done next week. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I'm going to be glued to the television. I can't wait to watch. Oh, yeah.
1:30:10Shannon Sharpe:The Sean underscore show. Oh, Joe. What's one stat fans overrate and one stat they ignore that actually predicts winning. Ooh.
1:30:28I mean, turnovers, honestly, Unc.
1:30:31Shannon Sharpe:That's the greatest predictor. That's the greatest, greatest predictor. Especially once it comes playoff time. Yeah. Because the momentum flips so quick. Very quick. More so, probably more so in the postseason in football, Ocho, because home field. Yep. So you missed right and turned the ball over a couple of times and you on the road. It's a wrap. Man, the momentum flips so quick. I mean, because think about it. Ole Miss had the momentum. And then all of a sudden, Georgia got a P.I., go down, three and out, right back down again. Just that fast. Just that fast. You don't even need help in general.
1:31:12The momentum, the football games, matter of fact, the momentum to any sport. The momentum is going to shift. The pendulum is going to shift at some point. It absolutely is. You don't need to help that momentum by having a turnover or making mistakes. So especially come postseason time, man, you pay double for that stuff, man. You pay double for it.
1:31:38Shannon Sharpe:Bucket Gator Jr. still don't understand why Georgia blessed that last play, killed my parlay. God, they want him to make a decision quick. You don't want him to sit right. I want to make him to make a decision. Because think about it. I understand you blitz, but he's still got to make a perfect throw. And the guy got to catch it. The last thing I want him to do, I want to make him make a decision right now, Ocho. I can't let that guy run around and have all day and buy time. Nah, you can make a decision right now.
1:32:11Shannon Sharpe:Now, Shook for Rookie of the Year. Oh, Joe, Happy New Year. If Shook beats the fail cards and ends the season with a five-game winning streak, does he win Rookie of the Year? I think he had a great chance. I really think it's out of him and McMillan in Carolina. Yeah. And they generally leans toward the quarterback. Always. But he's played well. Now, everybody's talking about him and the numbers that he put up against the Titans. But they kill Shadour for the same number. Shadour threw for more yards. And everybody's saying ain't nobody but the Titans. Y 'all forgot y 'all said that, right? Y 'all don't forget anything.
1:32:56Shannon Sharpe:This is the same team, the Titans. Tyler Shook threw for 330 yards, and they won. Shadour threw for 364. And then all of a sudden his quarterback, his coach, wanted to run the Wildcat.
1:33:13But yes, he's impressed me.
1:33:16Shannon Sharpe:I got no problem. Maybe I was wrong about him. Let's see this thing play out. But he's played well enough to come in as the incumbent quarterback and see if he can lead this team. I know Kelly Moore has the utmost faith in him. Kelly Moore has dialed up some great plays, and he's run the offense great. Go get your running back and get you some offensive line help. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. We really, really appreciate that. Very, very, very interesting game. University of Georgia falls to the Ole Miss Rebels by the score of 39-34.
1:33:57Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That's my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own Bengal Ring of Fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And we want to thank our college football guy. Joining us tonight, Johnny Manziel. Make sure you subscribe to his podcast, Glory Days, and find him on YouTube. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support.
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1:35:37Shannon Sharpe:Heisman Trophy winner threw three touchdowns, Fernando Mendoza. Indiana takes on Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl as they swarmed Texas Tech by the score of 23-0. So you get Ole Miss and the University of Miami in the Fiesta Bowl, and you get Oregon and Indiana in the Peach Bowl with the winner. Where's the championship game going to be held? In Atlanta? Oh, Miami. Okay. So that's it. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow, Friday. We off. No. We'll see you Saturday. Sorry. Sorry. I thought today was – I'm all off. I'm sorry. You get a break from Ojo and I.
1:36:29Shannon Sharpe:We'll see you Saturday. Tomorrow we are. Peace.
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