In short
NFL Week 4 QB power rankings and game predictions; Tyreek Hill free-agent “landing spot” speculation; controversial NFL officiating (Rams DPI); Detroit Pistons removing a weight clause from Jalen Duren’s contract.
Guest backgrounds
Ocho and Joe are former pro athletes turned sports talk hosts; they debate NFL matchups, officiating, and roster moves from a player/insider perspective. No other guests are named in the transcript.
Key claims
- QB play is the biggest driver of winning; bad QB play is “hard to overcome” without an elite defense.
- NFL should not have called defensive pass interference on Josh Wallace in a Broncos-Rams game; McVay says the league later admitted the call was wrong.
- Tyreek Hill should choose a team that will use him immediately; “cold weather” teams like Green Bay are preferred over crowded rosters like Kansas City.
Notable examples
- Week 4 rankings cited: Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence; multiple QBs listed with specific stat lines.
- Hill landing spots discussed: Green Bay, Buffalo, Chicago, Indy, Baltimore, San Francisco, Kansas City (rejected).
- Pistons: removed a monthly weight incentive “wait clause” from Jalen Duren’s 5-year/$200M deal; debate over whether he deserves a Supermax.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONFL Week 4 Power Rankings Overview
1:15 to 6:50
Discussion on the latest NFL quarterback power rankings and performance insights.
“NFL.com has released their week four power rankings.”
In-Depth Analysis of Quarterbacks and Teams
6:51 to 14:00
Analysis of quarterback performances and predictions for upcoming games.
“Sunshine is playing the quarterback position just as good about anybody in the NFL.”
Nostalgic Jaguars Moments
14:00 to 17:30
The hosts reminisce about past games against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
“Last time I went to Jacksonville was 2001.”
Latest on Tyreek Hill's Recovery
17:30 to 18:30
Discussion on Tyreek Hill's recovery from injury and potential landing spots.
“And the argument is, do you want to win?”
Where Could Tyreek Hill Land?
18:30 to 25:10
Exploring various NFL teams as potential destinations for Tyreek Hill.
“I think I'm ready for some cold weather.”
McVay's Comments on DPI Call
25:10 to 28:01
Sean McVay discusses the controversial DPI call against the Rams in a game.
“I mean, they should be bombed over Baghdad right now.”
Tyreek Hill's Potential Landing Spots
28:01 to 28:25
Discussing potential teams Tyreek Hill could join and his integration.
“Okay, Ocho, you can't throw that man in the fire.”
Sean McVay on Controversial DPI Call
28:26 to 30:29
Analysis of Sean McVay's comments regarding a controversial DPI call against the Rams.
“Sean McVay says the NFL told the team that the defensive pass interference should not have been called against the quarterback, Josh Wallace, in the Sunday night loss to the Broncos.”
Refereeing Standards and Accountability
30:30 to 33:18
Discussing the implications of refs' calls and the grading system that affects their careers.
“But that was just NBC just reshorting it to see if he passed interference.”
Pistons Remove Weight Clause from Duren’s Contract
34:39 to 38:14
Examining the implications of the Pistons' decision to remove the weight clause in Jalen Duren's contract.
“the Detroit Pistons has removed the wait clause from the contract.”
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Evaluating Jalen Duren's Future and Market Value
38:15 to 42:00
Discussing Jalen Duren's performance, potential, and contract situation amidst team dynamics.
“The Eastern got real different this year, Ocho.”
Jalen Duren's Contract Dilemma
42:00 to 45:39
Discussing Jalen Duren's potential Supermax contract and its implications.
“But because his contract is up and he saw all these other guys get that, what does he think?”
The Risk of Signing Big Deals
45:39 to 48:55
Examining the risks and rewards associated with signing multi-million dollar contracts.
“I get that, a defensive player of the year.”
Transcript
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0:45Joe Johnson:Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin Unfiltered Podcast? Here's what you missed. People wake up and go, oh, damn, wait a minute, hold up. They changed all of that? Yes. It's real. This is a wholesale attack. It is targeting black people in every federal agency. It's raw. White folks have never allowed that reckoning to last more than a decade.
1:05Shannon Sharpe:Catch Roland Martin's daily commentary on the Black Information Network.
1:09Joe Johnson:And download Roland Martin Unfiltered on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
1:13Shannon Sharpe:or wherever you get your podcasts. NFL.com has released their week four power rankings. Brock Purdy, 2026 stats, 789 pass yards, nine touchdowns, one interception. My homeboy, 8-12, seven pass TDs, two interceptions. Dak Prescott, seven TDs, one interception. Josh Allen, 7-86, five TDs, two interceptions, six rush touchdowns, but also has three fumbles. Trevor Lawrence, 616 passing yards, seven TDs, two interceptions. Three of these quarterbacks are undefeated. The others are two and one, are undefeated, and the other are 2-1. And the other just lost a heartbreaker in Brazil. Damn. Look, your quarterback plays well.
2:05Shannon Sharpe:More times than not, you're going to win. It's really that simple. It's unlike, I guess you could say it's kind of like, well, it's not like baseball because your starting pitcher can have a rough three or four innings, and then the rest of your pitcher can close the door and not let anybody get hit and your offense take over. We're not going to. This guy don't play well. It's hard to overcome a bad quarterback play in the NFL now. Yeah. It's really hard. It's damn near impossible.
2:32Joe Johnson:And most of the time when quarterbacks do play bad, you can survive, you know, bad quarterback play if you have one hell of a defense. Yeah. One really good defense, but they have to be very, very good. Very good. So most of the time, I mean, I'm surprised the culprits that are in the top, that are playing right now, it's expected. Yeah. I expect Brock Purdy to play well. I'm expecting Patrick Mahomes, even coming off ACL at 80%, he's still better than almost everybody.
3:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.
3:05Joe Johnson:You know? So I expect Dak to throw for the numbers he's throwing for because he's done it countless times and time and time again. That's never been his issue. It's never been his problem. Josh Allen has been Josh Allen for who knows how long.
3:18Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes, Ocho, your quarterback can play bad, but the opposing team quarterback plays just as bad, if not worse, and you'll win, a la Buffalo. Ain't no way in hell Buffalo's supposed to win that game on Sunday. But because Justin Herbert was just as bad, maybe worse, Josh Allen was able to play as bad as he did and win the ball game. Yeah.
3:44Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.
3:48Shannon Sharpe:That's crazy. But.
3:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey, yo. Oh, Dak. Oh, hello. Dak. What? What Dak doing? Number three.
3:58Chad Johnson:Well, hold on. You see what you mean? Seven touchdowns. One one in the session. What you mean? What? One game. But then he did that because the quarterback got hurt. Then we won the one game because our defense been sus and we we cleaning that up. But don't act like he's been out there.
4:13Shannon Sharpe:What y 'all got?
4:13Chad Johnson:Ajax. Don. What y 'all got? What y 'all cleaning up with? We getting better. We getting better. Don't worry about that. Huh? Who? Who we got this week, man?
4:27Shannon Sharpe:My Cowboys, bro. What do you mean? Y 'all losing, no matter. Cardinals, I think y 'all got the Cardinals. Oh, boy, you know that.
4:35Joe Johnson:Oh, the Texans. Oh, you know y 'all not winning. Hey, Joe, and that's the funny thing about it, too. Just if you understand the way football goes, right, if you understand how the football guards work in general, they not going to allow the Texans to go 0-4.
4:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, why come they ain't? Why come? Who you is? What make you think they ain't going to?
4:52Joe Johnson:No, I'm just saying, Joe, listen, I'm not talking about the Cowboys in general. I'm just saying the way the game is slated and the fact that the Houston Texans are 0-3. The football gods aren't going to allow them to be 0-4. That's just the way it works, Joe. I'm telling you. Yeah, they going 0-4. Hey, Joe, I tell you what, if you're a betting man, and that's anybody listening, if you're a betting man and understand, guarantee you the Texans win this game. And it's nothing against the Cowboys. in just the way the game goes. It's just the way the NFL is.
5:18Chad Johnson:Hold on. Didn't the other night, didn't all of us just bet against the damn Bears the other night because Caleb Williams didn't play? Didn't we all bet? We all said that. Who was that they played the other night? Philly. Who the Bears? Philly. Philly. Philly. We said that Philly was going to walk the dog on them. Oh, who said?
5:36Joe Johnson:I said the Bears was going to win.
5:38Chad Johnson:No, you didn't, man. We all picked Philly, bro. No, you all picked Philly. I picked the Bears. No, no, no. I ain't trying to hear anyone. anyway listen the text is gonna be 0-4 we ain't got nothing to do with all that bro we need a win
5:50Shannon Sharpe:we need a dub you know what I mean I don't see it I don't see it oh now you don't see it now you don't see it I bet you don't see it now yeah I don't see it and I'm looking real hard to find a
6:00Chad Johnson:win for y 'all nah nah promising oh yeah now we this week don't look good next week don't look
6:08Shannon Sharpe:too much better. Who they got next week?
6:12Chad Johnson:Somebody that can beat them. Man, y 'all need to be worried about y 'all teams, okay?
6:17Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, we good, Joe. We good, Joe. We good. We good. Huh? We let the Steelers get away with one. And people have to understand, the Bengals did lose the game, right? I know we put a lot of the blame on Joe Burrow. Alex, you have an opportunity to tie the game. We in field goal range. You can't fumble it. Also, the right guard, you can't be piss poor in that moment. You can't be pissed poor in that moment. In the Super Bowl, on that four down, you know who else is pissed poor and allow Aaron Donald to get through? The right guard again. So, again, same problem, same issues. But, anyway, that's neither here nor there.
6:49Joe Johnson:The Jacksonville Jaguars is coming down to Cincinnati. You hear me? Ooh. You hear me? The Jaguars are playing well, boy. Yeah. Hey, Sunshine. Sunshine is playing the quarterback position just as good about anybody in the NFL. He is. I respect them boys. You know, Travis Hunter and the rest of the boys. Parker Washington. Parker Washington playing some good ball. Jacoby Myers. Jacoby. Strange, a tight end. Hey, but let me tell you something. It ain't happening this Sunday. It ain't happening this Sunday. Matter of fact, hey, Joe, I'm feeling so good, right? And this is how much I love Jacksonville Jaguar fans, right?
7:28I'm finna drive to Jacksonville, and I'm gonna watch the Bengals game
7:32Joe Johnson:with my Bengals gear on with the Jacksonville Jaguar fans, you know? because it's all love. It's all love. It's all love. But I just want to see people's faces when we walk out with this W. Huh? We're going to be eating W's like Jameis Wynn.
7:45Chad Johnson:I don't know. Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. The Jags ain't playing defensively.
7:50Joe Johnson:They locked in. They do it, Joe. Hey, hey. Hey, Joe. I'm not even going to say a lot, Joe. Hey, Unk. But them boys playing some ball on both sides of the ball. Yeah. I understand that. But they getting ready to come against that juggernaut. You know, that juggernaut off of the team and Joe Burrow, T. Higgins, and Jamal Chase and Chase Brown.
8:08Chad Johnson:Hey, hold on, hold on. You know little Trav trying to capitalize on that pick he had last week here. You know he – what do you mean? Yeah. You're trying to consolidate it.
8:18Joe Johnson:Hold on. You talking about Heisman Travis Hunter? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's that boy. That's that boy. Let me tell you something. Travis Hunter is one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen. You hear me? In college. And he's showing flashes of brilliance early in his career in year two with the Jags. But let me tell you something. I love Travis Hunter to death, right? But on Sunday, it's going to be one of those moments. Welcome to the NFL. Welcome to the NFL. Having a cover Chase, having a cover Tee Higgins. You hear me?
8:49Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. Ain't going to be nothing pretty. I love that back end schedule y 'all got, Joe. They got Seattle, the Rams, Jacksonville. Ooh.
9:01Chad Johnson:What you mean? What you trying to say? They ain't going to win none, Unk? Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Unk praying on our downfall. No, no, no.
9:11Shannon Sharpe:Never that, Joe.
9:12Chad Johnson:I've been noticing that. You talking about the damn back end. We going week to week, man. We get to Texas this week. Okay, y 'all going to lose this week. Dang. No, no, no. Hell no. No, we ain't lose this week.
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9:23Shannon Sharpe:Next week, y 'all beat Tampa. It's going to be interesting to see y 'all Green Bay and Philly. I don't know. Philly's a division game. I don't really know what Philly going to give us. You never know what Philly going to give us. I think Green Bay going to spring. Oh, that's a Sunday night game. Oh, Green Bay got y 'all.
9:37Chad Johnson:Man, come on, man.
9:38Shannon Sharpe:Tampa is a – y 'all play – I mean, thank you, Joe. Y 'all play Sunday, Thursday, the following Sunday – I mean, yeah, the following Sunday night, and then the following Monday night.
9:51Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey. It is what it is. Man, this is what presented to us. Hey, we ready for the challenge. What y 'all saying? Y 'all ain't like y 'all really talking about something. I thought y 'all really saying something.
10:01Shannon Sharpe:I don't count it up. I just counted up on my calculator and asked Shad GPT. Say y 'all got about seven losses in there right now. Wow, man. Come on, bro. Now what Shad GPT said? I mean Shad GPT.
10:13Chad Johnson:Hey, y 'all better get the Shad GPT. Hey, you need to worry about them Broncos and them damn Ravens, okay?
10:21Shannon Sharpe:You already know we do Bronco country.
10:24Joe Johnson:Hey, let me tell you, hey, Joe. Honestly, the game of the week is down in Cincinnati. That's the game of the week. I believe it.
10:31Shannon Sharpe:I believe it.
10:32Joe Johnson:That's the game of the week.
10:33Shannon Sharpe:Why you driving to Jacksonville, dude, if the game is in Cincinnati?
10:36Joe Johnson:I don't know. You didn't hear me, Unc? I want to see the faces of the fans. I want to sit with the Jaguar fans in Jacksonville.
10:42Chad Johnson:Oh, man, you need to chill. You need to chill.
10:44Joe Johnson:Hey, no, no, no. Listen, hey, Joe, they love me down there, Joe. You hear me? They love me down there, Joe, so I just want to give them the opportunity, you know, to sit with them. We can talk a little trash back and forth, and it's always respect, Joe. It's always respect between me and them, but I need to be in their presence. I need to be able to touch, feel, and hug, and, hey, I love you. But today, y 'all finna lose. Like that. You feel me? So when the game is over, then it's back to love. Mm, okay. I see a little Duval. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, tell a little Duval. Oh, you already?
11:14Shannon Sharpe:Duval say bet.
11:16Joe Johnson:Hey, man, Duval, he's scared. He ain't responding back. No, he said bet. He talking about, oh, that little poor ass 2000. I said, well, make it fire then. I said, well, make it five. And he ain't responding to that five bet. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, but hey, if we have any Jacksonville fans that are in the chat tonight that are watching, you know I have nothing but respect for y 'all. Y 'all know that. I love y 'all to death. And this is an opportunity for me to be able to come out and hang with y 'all. And I ain't seen y 'all in years since I played down in the Ville years ago against Rasheem Mathis.
11:52Joe Johnson:Please tell me where to go. This Sunday, I'll probably come down Saturday night, get me a nice little hotel. somewhere off montcrieff and uh i just tell me where to go so i could chill with y 'all and enjoy the game we could talk a little trash a little banter back and forth and and just and just politic and exchange pleasantries yeah yeah and i'm gonna have on my bangle jersey too huh who they
12:16Shannon Sharpe:okay i'm trying to figure out joe oh what's up oh joe huh why are you going if the game is
12:21Joe Johnson:cincinnati or is it in jacksonville it's in cincinnati but i don't want to go to cincinnati I want to be with the Jaguar fans. You not understand it.
12:29Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. You make it seem like the Jaguar fans, like this is a World Cup game with a country and they got places out there. Ain't nobody gonna be out.
12:36Joe Johnson:They gonna be out. Jacksonville is a beautiful place. What you talking about? You ever been to Jacksonville? Yes, I have. Okay. Jacksonville is a beautiful place and the people would love my presence. They would love my presence to be there. Hey, Duval, matter of fact, Duval, you come out too. Some people, they told me to go to the block or they told me to go to Cigar International, but I just want to go to a place, Uncle Joe, where all the fans gather and watch the game so I can see the feet on their face after every touchdown, after every first down, and I just want to get up and I just want to just go crazy and piss everybody off.
13:11Huh?
13:12Shannon Sharpe:No, I ain't been to Jacksonville. I'm trying to think, when's the last time I been to Jacksonville? I ain't been to Jacksonville in 30 years. Damn. Damn. What you were doing out there?
13:21Chad Johnson:Huh? I said, what'd you do in Jacksonville? No, no, I went out there.
13:25Shannon Sharpe:Leroy, Leroy Butler had a get together and I went out there to show support. Oh, okay, all right.
13:36Shannon Sharpe:I went to the zoo, right? I don't know, hey, Chad, did Jacksonville still ain't got a zoo? I went to the zoo? When I was in high school, went to the zoo one time. What'd you mean you was at the zoo? What was going on at the zoo? I mean, you know, we had a field trip. Oh, yeah.
14:01Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Hold on. No, I went to – no, I should say that. We played – I was in Baltimore. Last time I went to Jacksonville was 2001. Caught the game winning touchdown. You used to call me the Jaguar killer, Ocho. Oh, really? Hey, that's what they used to call me that too, huh? Caught two game winning touchdowns against them and caught the game winning catch just out of the field goal.
14:25Chad Johnson:Yes, sir. Man, what was it about Jacksonville? The Jaguars. They like to play, they play man coverage.
14:31Joe Johnson:Yeah, hey, hey. They fall bomb blitz. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I always had a time, every time I had an opportunity to play the Jaguars, Joe.
14:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Because they play man?
14:40Joe Johnson:Huh? Because they play man? They used to be good though, Joe. The fact that you line up in front of me, I don't care what you play. You gonna get this work, you hear me?
14:49Shannon Sharpe:Joe, they were good. I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. They were really good. Yeah, they was. They had Steve Brunel and Keenan. Tony Maselli. Yeah, Keenan and Jimmy Smith.
15:01Joe Johnson:Donovan Darius.
15:02Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Tony Brackens.
15:03Joe Johnson:Yeah, Logerman. They were really good. They were nice, Joe. J Smooth. Hey, Jimmy Smith. I'm coming down there, baby. Just tell me where to go, huh? You hear me? Keenan McCardell Keenan McCardell
15:19Shannon Sharpe:he coaching somewhere at the Rams
15:22Joe Johnson:no not the Rams he was at God dog Keenan was Detroit no because the receiver coach for the Rams is Eric Eric Yarber my college coach from Oregon State
15:51Joe Johnson:Freddie T. I know Freddie. Hey, Fred Taylor. Huh? Fred Taylor, y 'all boy, hey, Marcus Stroud. Yeah, I ain't forgot about you, boy. Huh? Yeah. I wonder what Jaguar. Oh, he coached the Buccaneers, Ojo. Oh, that's where he at? Isn't he? Oh, I don't know. I don't know who the receiver, I'm not sure. No, he's a wide receiver coach in Minnesota. Oh, he in Minnesota with Jettas? Yep. That's live. That's live. Yep. I sure wish the NFL give me a receiver coaching job. You ain't, you ain't. What do you mean? I just want to be out there coaching, huh? And Joe, you feel me?
16:28Chad Johnson:I'm a teaching boy how to. Hey, you take that job, how we gonna have you on nightcap? At 10 o 'clock at night, I'm gonna be free. Oh, OK. You gonna be cool to talk about. You going to be cool to talk about your team that you on?
16:41Joe Johnson:Yeah, why not? Because you know what my receiver is going to do every Sunday? What are they going to eat? Come hella hot water, they going to be open. Oh, okay. That's it. We ain't going to have the scheme, nothing open. Every offseason, y 'all with me, all six months. What they working on? Footwork? Footwork. Bunch of ladder drills. Manipulation. Playing half a man the whole time. Understanding defenses. Understanding coverages. Knowing what's coming before it comes. You learn about shit talking, playing mental gymnastics with your opponent, get him to talk back because it's a mental game. If you get him to talk back, that means you got him.
17:18Chad Johnson:Yeah.
17:18Joe Johnson:Huh? Tell you, boy, it's the type of knowledge can't nobody else give. They need me. They need me out there, man. I already know it. Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin Unfiltered podcast? Here's what you missed. And the argument is, do you want to win? If you don't win, you have no power. It's real. Those are the very people who I always say vote against their own economic interests, and they complain about the very thing they're receiving. It's raw. I knew that the issue of transgender athletes was not going well with a lot of black men. Roland Martin unfiltered. I went off. I said, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
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18:29Shannon Sharpe:Free agent wide receiver Tyreek Hill posted on X. I think I'm ready for some cold weather. The post comes just two days after Hill posted. It's almost time for him to get off the couch and get to work. Rick suffered a torn ACL last September and went unsigned through the offseason and while he was rehabbing. Ocho, Joe, where would you like to see Rick land?
18:52Chad Johnson:Cold weather.
18:52Joe Johnson:Oh, that's a good question, boy. Hey, Unc, matter of fact, hold on. Hold on now. They could always use a little help. Can you imagine Matthew Golden and Tyreek Hill over there in Green Bay? Huh? Jaden Reed is going out with a neck injury. Hey, heal up, young bull. Heal up. You know, he's out indefinitely this year. Why not add another speech to go with Matthew Golden? Hmm? Christian Watson. Now, we talk about a four-by-one team right there. Uncle Joe. What about Kansas City? He said cold weather. They got too many bodies. What do you mean? Listen, Cyrus Allen. Thornton Thornton Rice David Worthy That's four right there
19:38Chad Johnson:They loaded
19:39Joe Johnson:With Jayden Reed going down You can have Tyreek Hill come in And have someone to approve it To see where his leg is Over there in Green Bay Can you imagine that? Man, stop playing Chad, what y 'all think? Tyreek Hill over there masked up
19:56Chad Johnson:Hold on, they got some good receivers over there in Green Bay, though, Ocho?
20:01Joe Johnson:One just went down with a neck injury. Joe, he out for the year. The one that's been killing? Jalen Reed, no. The one been killing is probably Christian Watson. Matthew Golden. Hey, Matthew Golden has come on really good in the second year, too. He coming on strong.
20:17Shannon Sharpe:What about Reek and Buffalo?
20:20Joe Johnson:Ooh. What, Unc? How? What do you mean, how? You got Shakir. You got DJ Moore. That's Shakir's spot.
20:32Shannon Sharpe:Reek is outside. Reek outside the numbers. You got Keon Coleman and DJ Moore. Hey. You got some speed. You got somebody to take the top off it.
20:41Joe Johnson:Nah, I like Green Bay better. I mean, me personally. Because Green Bay throws the ball much more. Much more. What about Chicago? Oh, my goodness. They already have a speedster. What's number 14 name? Excuse me, hey, Chad, please forgive me for not knowing his name.
21:00Shannon Sharpe:Well, they got Roman Dunze.
21:02Joe Johnson:Roman Luther Burton. And number 14, hey, he can fly. Chad, what's Young Bull's name? Boy say he's going to some cold weather. That's why I said Green Bay. God, I can't remember a dude's name, man, from the – Oh, yeah. Khalid Raymond.
21:22Shannon Sharpe:You talking about Khalid from – he's from Detroit. Is that Detroit?
21:25Joe Johnson:He can fly, boy. Oh, my goodness.
21:34Shannon Sharpe:You think it's been a year? So it's about to be, it's about to be, he about to be, what, 13 months removed from surgery.
21:42Joe Johnson:Oh, he ready. You seen him out there running in that sand? Huh?
21:46Chad Johnson:How old is he?
21:47Joe Johnson:How old is he? 24, 25?
21:50Shannon Sharpe:No, hell. No. He probably about 31, 32.
21:53Joe Johnson:but his 31-32 is different everybody else 31-32 what about
21:57Shannon Sharpe:Indy Alec Pierce just went on he did but that's only
22:03Joe Johnson:four games well now three games because that was last week Indy Daniel Jones
22:08Shannon Sharpe:that don't mean that he's going to be ready to go in four games okay how about this here what about Houston
22:17Joe Johnson:they have Tank Dale what about
22:21Shannon Sharpe:Houston Joe
22:25Chad Johnson:I don't see that. For whatever reason, I'm listening to the man talk. The man says something about cold weather. Houston, it don't strike me that he going.
22:35Shannon Sharpe:Okay, we'll go to Baltimore. No, no. Oh, you don't want him in Baltimore. You see that, Joe? You see how he's angry?
22:43Joe Johnson:No, he gonna take you. They got Bateman. Huh? You got -
22:47Shannon Sharpe:What about Baltimore, Joe?
22:49Joe Johnson:Hey.
22:50Shannon Sharpe:We know Ocho Bob. We got to save flowers.
22:52Chad Johnson:Hey, with them dual quarterbacks, I like him in Buffalo too. With quarterbacks who can improvise and work outside the pocket, I think that works great for Tyreek Hill, bro.
23:03Joe Johnson:Hey, y 'all going to piss me off tonight.
23:06Chad Johnson:Well, get pissed off then.
23:09Joe Johnson:I ain't going to say it no more. Tyreek Hill to Green Bay. And you know I mean business when I get up out of my seat.
23:19Joe Johnson:the Steelers might be
23:20Shannon Sharpe:what about the Steelers
23:25hey hey
23:28Joe Johnson:Aaron Rodgers Tyreek that's a lot like that but they already got a burner who Calvin Austin III he's not the NMO man no
23:43Shannon Sharpe:we'll see Green Bay Why you want him in Green Bay? I think you want to go home. Home where? Kansas City?
23:56Joe Johnson:There's too many bodies. There's too many bodies. What, they just throw him right in the offense? No, it's just he's going to be upset. He wants to come in and be productive right away. Where can he come in based on a team that actually need and can use him?
24:12Shannon Sharpe:Calvin Austin III, don't you, is on the Giants.
24:16Joe Johnson:So he gone. Yeah. Okay.
24:20Shannon Sharpe:So basically got Skaronic. They got DK. They got Pittman Jr. They got. What's the other guy? Number 14. Pittsburgh. Aaron Rodgers love, but he be driving, make everyone want to pull his hair out.
24:36Joe Johnson:Oh, Raymond Raymond.
24:39Shannon Sharpe:Roman Wilson. Yeah.
24:42Joe Johnson:See, they too young over there. No. Green Bay makes more sense. because they're going to actually use him he tried to keep he tried to keep anybody don't
24:51Shannon Sharpe:want nobody to compete against Cincinnati you see what you're doing Joe I already know that's why
24:54Joe Johnson:he didn't want to go to Pittsburgh hey what I want to think about that I'm looking I'm looking out for the best entry to Tyreek and it ain't playing in Pittsburgh yeah I don't like Pittsburgh for me though Joe yeah hey Joe I appreciate that Joe because the chat agree with me too I like Kansas city for him though can you imagine they have two bodies you got taekwondo you got
25:20Shannon Sharpe:xavier worthy you got reek you got rasheed rice and kelsey that's too damn much exactly it looked good on paper but you got what you got in the backfield you got k9 nah i don't like it uh you got that whole dog back go post sale go on the other side we got two goals We got a post, and we got a sale route. What you going to do, Ocho?
25:50Joe Johnson:Play zone. Okay, go ahead. And keep everything underneath. Are you going to play cover, too? That's how you stop that.
25:58Shannon Sharpe:K9 going to run you out the building. Hello. K9 going to run you out the building. Don't drop a safety down.
26:07Joe Johnson:Ooh, Bahama will be bombs over Baghdad. I mean, they should be bombed over Baghdad right now.
26:16Shannon Sharpe:Don't you worry about that. You worry about Cincinnati. What y 'all going to do?
26:19Joe Johnson:Oh, we're going to be fine. I told you, we're going to put BTA to Jaguars. BTA.
26:25Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Trevor, don't you take another knee at the one-yard line. You get that damn ball in the end zone.
26:29Joe Johnson:Hey, I got a question. Does that call come from the sideline? Remember Saquon did it? I don't know what he was thinking. Remember Saquon did it in the game last year?
26:37Shannon Sharpe:Well, Saquon did it because of the time on the clock. Bro, they had eight minutes in the game. Why did he do that?
26:43Chad Johnson:Why did he do that for real?
26:45Joe Johnson:And it happens all the time. And people ask me, and I don't even know.
26:50Shannon Sharpe:Brain lock? Brain lock? Hey, you know everybody's talking about, see, I told you the NFL was fixed.
26:57Chad Johnson:Yep. Can you imagine how many people, you know, he probably messes up some people.
27:03Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Fanatics gave people their money back their bet because they bet on Trevor Lawrence's anytime touchdown. Wow. damn yeah what if I put Tyreek in Cincinnati no
27:18Joe Johnson:no too much he won't get the ball enough yeah
27:24Shannon Sharpe:now I can put Chase in the slot let Chase work that slot nah
27:30Chad Johnson:look at Joe hell no I'm trying to
27:34Joe Johnson:I'm purposely putting him somewhere where he's going to be a viable target right now as soon as he get out on the field.
27:42Shannon Sharpe:All right, well, I'm putting him in San Francisco then.
27:44Joe Johnson:They got too many pieces.
27:46Shannon Sharpe:What they got? Mike Evans might be out. What's wrong now? Pierce all gone. Who else they got?
27:54Joe Johnson:You got Kittle. You got McCaffrey. Because McCaffrey's not just a running back.
27:58Shannon Sharpe:A running back. Oh, yeah. Reek going to 49ers. He said he wants to go. 49ers of Baltimore. Or he go. Or Kansas City.
28:09Chad Johnson:He got to be worked in. Okay, Ocho, you can't throw that man in the fire. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're going to work him in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give him a few snaps here and there. Working back in lightly. Don't throw that man out there gunning now.
28:26Shannon Sharpe:Sean McVay says the NFL told the team that the defensive pass interference should not have been called against the quarterback, Josh Wallace, in the Sunday night loss to the Broncos. On third and sixth at the 11-yard line, Wallace intercepted Boat Nix but was flagged for pass interference on Pat Bryant, giving the Broncos first and goal at the seven. The Broncos scored on that drive to take the lead with 47 seconds. I don't even know why they do that, Ocho. All you do is make me madder now. Yeah, you knew the call was wrong. Because I told you at the time it shouldn't have been a flag.
28:55Joe Johnson:Go ahead, guys. They knew the call was wrong, Uncle Joe. They knew that. Remember when the Saints played the Rams? What year was that?
29:02Shannon Sharpe:In that championship game, yeah. Yeah.
29:04Joe Johnson:I think 2018? 2018? The ball didn't even get close. Didn't even get there. He didn't hit the man. It's no call. It wasn't that C.J. Gardner-Johnson that hit him. It wasn't? I think so, Joe. I can't remember exactly who it was. But it was a great play. It was a great defensive play. And to make a great defensive play like that, right, and to get called for a flag, then they actually replay it. The rest of the world can see unless you're a fan of the team, unless you're a Broncos fan, you're like, okay, cool. It's P.I. if you a football fan you know good and well that one pi not the fact that they reviewed it and they still upheld it as a passing appearance knowing good and well it wasn't that's what i'm saying and pat bryant selling it and flopping like somebody really why are you putting your head back come on man the man is behind you what you doing that's what i'm saying i'm saying
29:56Shannon Sharpe:hey my team benefited but i call bull job but we'll take it It's not.
30:02Chad Johnson:But why come out and see this now? I told y 'all that night. I told y 'all that night. I said, man, come on, man. They want to come on, bro. Yeah. I can't believe it. It was 2018. It's like, how are you looking at the replay though? Okay, Ocho, you look dead at the damn replay and figure it out. Come on, man.
30:18Shannon Sharpe:But they didn't, they weren't looking at the replay. They were just, NBC just kept showing it because there is no replay for pass interference. They had it in, Ocho, remember they had it in, but they took it out. Right. And they say, well, maybe it's time to revisit it. But that was just NBC just reshorting it to see if he passed interference. And I didn't think it was either. But don't tell – it's like the two-minute report, Joe, in basketball. Man, don't tell me about no call because I tried to tell you at the time that was a bull jive call or it wasn't a no call. It wasn't a this or a that.
30:50Shannon Sharpe:And y 'all went ahead and called it. And now you're going to let me know after the fact? I feel worse. I'm more upset now. because guess what y 'all are going to say okay y 'all gonna give us the win because we had the lead and if that interception stands guess what we get the ball back with 47 seconds and we win the ball game yeah so with that being said unless y 'all changing outcomes of the game don't tell me it was a pi or it was this should have been called or that should have been called because all you're
31:21Chad Johnson:do is piss me off even more man that's crazy bro hey look i think i told this story before but uh we played the miami heat when i was playing for the hawks um and we had to start a game that
31:36Shannon Sharpe:we previously had already played i remember that joe yeah we had to start in the fourth quarter
31:43Chad Johnson:with like three minutes left that's how we started the game we had to finish that game and then we you restarted a whole nother game because of, because of something that happened in a past game. So I'm like, damn, if they did us like that, why they can't do that? Why they can't do that in other sports?
32:03Shannon Sharpe:Huh? In football. They can't do that in football, Joe. Nah, they ain't had to. Yeah, you can't. You can do that in your shoe. The most you go get is go get what Cleveland and Tampa did. A three, four hour delay and go play the game. But you ain't finna get no game play. You ain't been getting no situation like that.
32:21Chad Johnson:Yeah. Maybe we had to replay a whole nother game. Then start a new game. That was crazy.
32:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but in a situation like that, guy, I don't even want to know. Because all it's going to do is make you more upset, Joe, don't you?
32:35Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Especially when you've been pleading your case already. You're like, man, I'm telling you, you know, it wasn't no P.I. And now it take you a whole damn day or two to come back and tell me what I've I already told you, you know, in the thick of it. Come on, man. Yeah, and matter of fact, the funny thing about it too, Uncle Joe,
32:55Joe Johnson:is the refs, they all try to do their best job to have the highest scores because they are graded on the games based on the call that they make, whether they get them right or they get them wrong, to be able to compete, not compete, to be able to ref the Super Bowl.
33:08Shannon Sharpe:Well, you want to work playoff games. You want to get, you know, the higher you score, then you're going to get playoff games, and then eventually, you know, hopefully you high enough, you get the Super Bowl.
33:16Joe Johnson:And listen, you make a mistake like this, clear as day, after you huddle up, after you watch a replay, I mean, come on now.
33:24Chad Johnson:You kiss the damn Super Bowl goodbye. You ain't reffing it in the Super Bowl. That's what you get. It's over with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. It's over with.
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34:32Shannon Sharpe:or wherever you get your podcasts. In order to entice Jalen Durant to sign his five-year,$200 million contract, the Detroit Pistons has removed the wait clause from the contract. This would have required Jalen to weigh in monthly throughout the year as part of an incentive deal. But according to Sam Amick, Durant is reportedly pissed even more that the fact that the Pistons are in front office, Trajan Langdon compared his situation to Zion Williamson as players who were difficult to deal with during media day.
35:09Shannon Sharpe:According to Amick, the disrespect is going to be even a greater level. Langdon Full comments. It's the first time I've ever had to handle it here. I was in New Orleans for five years with a certain player, and it wasn't easy to deal with. So I do have experience in that. And so I look at these times. We can control what we can control, and that's how we operate. Joe, he was in New Orleans. We're in the situation with Zion. on it now it appears to me and joe you correct me if i'm wrong for you to put a clause in there like that you believe his weight became a problem right right you you're absolutely right huh i don't
35:50Chad Johnson:i think the only time they do that is when they feel like guys have weight problems whether you've gained a substantial amount of weight over a short period of time again ocho because the heavier that you are in basketball like I always talk about is quick transitions is quick sprints your first two to three steps in basketball mean everything so Jalen during uh uh the fact that he that that maybe his weight has gone so high it maybe takes away some of his activity on the court his quickness his durability you know things of that sort so hey man the thing about it is when you really that dude, bruh, they don't really put all them stipulations in there.
36:31Chad Johnson:You know what I mean? I understand it from time to time because you got some guys who kind of obviously need it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, to stay on the straight and narrow. But Durant don't strike me as a guy who needs a weight cause. He has a nice man's body. You feel what I'm saying? I just think this whole situation with Jalen Durant and the Pistons, it just didn't got ugly. Okay, Ocho. So, seriously, you done got ugly. After the trade contracts hasn't met Durin's expectations, and obviously, hell, the Pistons feel like it's too much.
37:03Shannon Sharpe:I don't see the Pistons going to 5-284.
37:06Chad Johnson:Nah, I don't know where we go from here. Now, are they preparing a sign-and-trade? Because it's hard bringing in a star-caliber guy like that, and he's going to be disgruntled for the season. You don't want that, bro. You're right. You don't want that. So, they got some choices to make, man. I think it's 24 hours for him to make a decision, right?
37:25Shannon Sharpe:They gave him 24 hours and said either take this one-year deal or sign the five-year deal. But my thing is, Joe, if he what he think is, I'm going to sign the five-year deal knowing that I'm being at the table in three.
37:38Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. But you got to – hey, that's a hell of a bang, though, when you consider the fact that he's really not an offensive threat like that. He's your muscle. You know what I mean? He's your muscle. He's the grit and grind guy that you got to have in that post interior. Because in the East, the East is thick, bro. Think about it. You got Carlton Towns. You got MB. You got guys who you going to have to challenge for that Eastern Conference.
38:08Shannon Sharpe:Giannis and Bam.
38:10Chad Johnson:Who? Giannis and Bam. Oh, yeah. Giannis and Bam. The Eastern got real different this year, Ocho. Hey, it's a whole different story, boy. I've been watching the training camp stuff too, man. Hey, everybody off to a pretty good start. You know, it's early. Everybody going to feel good. By the time everybody leaves training camp, everybody going to have a little knickknack. They going to be sore as hell, boy.
38:33Shannon Sharpe:But the question is, Joe, it seems like Detroit is unwilling to go to 284. Right. Now, are you willing to roll the dice, take a one-year$10 million deal with the hopes? I don't know if I would I don't really like to speak on a man's money but I'm taking the 200 million and I'm going to play my ass off in three years y 'all come back and see me
38:59Chad Johnson:man listen I'm with you I'm taking the 200 you taking the Joe? yeah I'm taking 200 Ocho he's a good player Ocho don't get me wrong any team I'm playing on You got to have a guy like him. Yes, sir. But them guys don't make that type of money, bro. But the fact that he's a bruiser, a hardworking blue-collar guy in Detroit, that's their makeup, bro. That's who they are. You know what I mean? He fits. He fits. He fits with that city. So it's hard, man. It's hard because the Easton got better. So you give him$200 million, now you got all this money tied up between him and Cade. Hell, he going to have to produce.
39:41Chad Johnson:We need good productivity from him. in order for us to be at the top of the East again.
39:47Joe Johnson:Hold on, hold on. He had good productivity during the regular season last year, but he was averaging 19 a game. Well, Ocho, the East has gotten better.
39:55Chad Johnson:Hell, Bruin over here, Kawhi over here. We got, hey, Giannis over here in Miami. Like, New York, I mean, the Detroit Pistons was the number one seed in the Eastern Conference last year. Hey, man, I don't think nobody got them being number one this year.
40:09Joe Johnson:Well, it's impossible for them to be number one when he's going to be number one. So I understand exactly where you're coming from with that.
40:15Shannon Sharpe:He got a guard. In Miami, he got a guard, Bam or Giannis. In Philadelphia, he got a guard in Bede. Hey, you might want to be safe. I agree. You know, Mitchell Robinson is not an offensive threat, but Mitchell Robinson is a big body. Yeah. That eats up a lot of space.
40:34Chad Johnson:Yeah.
40:35Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. As a prime defender. Now the question is, can he get him in foul trouble and get him out the game? But then you come back with Quater.
40:43Chad Johnson:They got some hardworking dudes in Boston. Okay, Ocho. They got some hardworking dudes. I like, man, they each going to be different.
40:52Shannon Sharpe:My thing is, Ocho, I'm taking that first contract so I can secure the family. Right. He's 22, man. I secure the family, and then I come back, like I said, in three years. Because, bro.
41:05Joe Johnson:Hold on. Think about this. What if he doesn't want to gamble? What if he wanted to take that chance? he doesn't want to take that chance and he wants that 284 because those three years what happens if he gets hurt if he gets hurt he get 200 million
41:19Shannon Sharpe:what happens if he get hurt he took the 10 million dollar contract you think he'll see a
41:24Joe Johnson:284 or or to expedite the process and not have any issues on the back end give me my 284 which i'm eligible for and we'll worry about everything else on the back end but see the thing is it's
41:37Shannon Sharpe:It's the same. He's going through the same thing Joey Porter Jr. is. Yeah. Joey Porter Jr. thinks because his contract is up, he's in a – I don't think anybody – and that's just me. But I don't think anybody in the NFL look at him as a Pat Sertain, a Christian Gonzalez, a Stingley, a Quinone – I don't think they look at Joey Porter like that. Do you look at Joey Porter like that, Ocho? I mean, no. No, he's very good at what he does. But because his contract is up and he saw all these other guys get that, what does he think? The market is the market. This is Jalen Durance thinking. He's thinking, my contract is up.
42:11Shannon Sharpe:I made third team all NBA. And a lot of that had to do with a lot of guys didn't meet the quota. So you got bumped on the third team. So I don't look at him as a Supermax player. I don't. It ain't my money. But I don't look at him. Supermax players, those are guys that are reserved. That's a Jokic. That's an Ant-Man. That's a Shea. That's a Luka. You looking at him like that?
42:37Joe Johnson:No. Hey, FYI, since you just mentioned Joey Porter, he just got traded to the Cowboys.
42:42Chad Johnson:Get out of here.
42:44Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, I wouldn't, I lied to you before I lied. Where you seen that at, man?
42:49Chad Johnson:Where you seen that at?
42:51Joe Johnson:No, I'm for real. The Steelers and Cowboys are finalizing deals sending cornerback Joey Porter Jr. to Dallas. I wouldn't lie to you, Joe. Hey, Ocho, think about this too. Unc, you see it?
43:06Shannon Sharpe:Uh-uh.
43:08Joe Johnson:Yeah, Tom Pilarisso.
43:10Shannon Sharpe:Tom Pilarisso?
43:11Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'm surprised Adam Schefter didn't get that first.
43:14Chad Johnson:Hmm. Think about this. What if Jalen Duren doesn't really love the game of basketball like that and he's just trying to capitalize on as much money as he can make on this deal? Because I don't know, man. Man, I think for a guy who really truly loves the game, 200 M's, bro. I mean, what we talking about? I'm 22 years old, Uncle Ocho. Boy, I'm right back.
43:43Joe Johnson:Dude, 284. You mean to tell me I can get my 284 and then come back three years later and hit you across the head again?
43:51Shannon Sharpe:No, you can't get 284, cause they ain't gave it to you. They tell you, they say you get 200 or you can take 10 million and roll the dice. damn
44:03Joe Johnson:somebody gonna have to budge and it ain't gonna be the player i can tell you that what do you mean i think it's gonna be a player because i got it right for another year
44:12Chad Johnson:ojo you gonna go into the season and play it one year yeah no it's stacked as stacked as the eastern conference is the chances of y 'all finishing number one in the east like y 'all did last year man that's that that's slim bro i don't know if taking i ain't taking i'm gonna keep it real but 200 i'm signing that i'm not taking no risk i ain't taking that risk not that kind of you know the risk i'm gonna take i'm gonna take this 200 and boy i'm talking about when i come back in two to three to four years i sure hope y 'all got that damn brink truck ready you hear me yeah i'm gonna cut up i'm gonna cut up they might play with they might play with him too no not if he not an a a not if they didn't got to the final, at least gotten to the finals.
44:55Chad Johnson:Now, they ain't going to play with you.
44:57Joe Johnson:And if they don't get there, then what?
45:00Shannon Sharpe:Well, he wasn't worth the 284 because he didn't help them get there.
45:03Chad Johnson:Right.
45:04Shannon Sharpe:Remember? You saw him in the postseason, right?
45:09Chad Johnson:Yeah, he seen him. He know what's going on. Don't let that man play crazy.
45:13Joe Johnson:I ain't playing crazy, but now you understand. Now you understand why he won 284. I know. But you understand now why they don't want to give it to him.
45:25Shannon Sharpe:That was a good one. I'm just basing on what I see.
45:33Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, I think Supermax contracts should be, and I get it, you make an all-NBA team or you're an MVP, I get that, a defensive player of the year.
45:49Excuse me.
45:53Shannon Sharpe:I just don't see that. I don't see that in him. I'm not saying that he shouldn't get his money. I believe he should get his money. But based on what I've seen, I ain't giving him a Supermax contract because I don't believe he's a Supermax player. That's just me.
46:09Chad Johnson:Hey, look. And Detroit don't want to do it neither. That's why it's taking so damn long. Let's not be crazy, okay? Yeah. They don't want to have to get no Supermax. Nah.
46:18Shannon Sharpe:All the players. Hey, think about it. They didn't do it. J-Dub ain't have to wait. Paulo Van Carol didn't have to wait. Chet didn't have to wait. Ain't none of them. They slapped that 230, 240 out there like it was nothing.
46:30Joe Johnson:Them superstars, though, huh? Oh. Ta-da!
46:38Joe Johnson:Hey, you consider Chet a superstar?
46:41Shannon Sharpe:No, I'm saying he got a what you call him. He got a 240. He didn't get the 284.
46:47Joe Johnson:Right.
46:48Shannon Sharpe:And he didn't get the, you know, I don't think he got the trade, the 15 % trade kicker. There's some things that he gave because he's like, I ain't finna roll no dice based on my history.
47:00Chad Johnson:Yeah.
47:01Shannon Sharpe:And I came in and got injured.
47:04Joe Johnson:Right. Okay, give him 240 then. I'll talk to him. Give him 240, we good.
47:11Shannon Sharpe:I think they done drew the line in the sand where they going with it. What did the man say? He said, hey, take it or leave it.
47:19Chad Johnson:Yeah, they tired of going back and forth.
47:21Joe Johnson:where he gonna come in and have a back problem like Joey Porter then.
47:26Shannon Sharpe:That's all right. Guess what? He'll have a back problem making$10 million. He ain't gonna have no back problem making$200.
47:38Shannon Sharpe:That's where we are with this, Ocho. For me, I'm not turning down$200 million because that's an opportunity to secure my family forever. Man, what are we talking about? At 25, I'll be right back. To run the risk of signing a$10 million deal? No, hell no.
48:01Shannon Sharpe:No. But, okay, that's him.
48:11Shannon Sharpe:That's on him. I don't see the Detroit budget. They say, okay, we'll take the weight clause. But you say they take the weight clause. Now, they could add another$20 million to it and say, okay, we'll do five for 220.
48:26Chad Johnson:Well, right now we're playing a waiting game. We're going to see who's going to budge, who's going to blink. We're going to see who's bluffing, God dang. Yeah, who's bluffing? Because, hey, Jalen Duren might just take this thing to the brink. He might just play this one year. I mean. That's on him. I wouldn't do it. That's me.
48:42Shannon Sharpe:I ain't in his shoes. Ain't either. It's hard to walk away from$200 million, Ocho.
48:49Joe Johnson:Yeah, you sure got to be sure yourself, boy. Play that game, boy. That's a dangerous game.
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