In short
The episode is a sports-and-life talk show segment mix. Topic 1: Shaquille O’Neal debates an all-time NBA starting five, claiming the lineup “can’t be beaten” if you just stack the best at each position: Stephen Curry (1), Kobe Bryant (2), Michael Jordan (3), Tim Duncan (4), and Shaq himself (5). Joe pushes back that team chemistry matters, then counters with an alternate “beat them” roster (LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Kevin Garnett, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Penny Hardaway as a point guard). Topic 2: Brandon Aiyuk “breaks silence” on his 49ers situation via an Instagram post using analogies about being picked last and “not getting picked,” plus claims the team is trying to suppress his trade value; the hosts also mention a speeding citation issue. They argue he still has value but may only get a “prove-it deal” (especially post-ACL). Topic 3: A viral dating/cooking debate—whether it’s acceptable to bring spaghetti/meatballs on a date; the hosts argue against “eating someone’s spaghetti” and discuss personal rules about partners cooking.
Guests
No named guests appear; the episode is hosted by “Ocho” and “Joe” (with Shaq and Brandon Aiyuk discussed via quotes/posts).
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Tap a time to open that second in VOShaquille O'Neal's All-Time Starting 5
3:11 to 5:37
Shaquille O'Neal reveals his all-time NBA starting five and discussions ensue.
“Shaquille O 'Neal reveals his NBA all-time starting five.”
Debate on Team Composition
5:37 to 10:11
A heated debate on the effectiveness of Shaq's team and player combinations.
“Yeah, and KG and Duncan, they probably going to cancel each other out.”
Brandon Aiyuk's Situation with 49ers
10:11 to 12:15
Discussion about Brandon Aiyuk's recent statements regarding his status with the 49ers.
“So someone else can have that same toy that the child is playing with.”
Aiyuk's Analogies and Reactions
12:15 to 14:00
Analyzing Aiyuk's social media analogies about his situation and the reactions to it.
Navigating Pro Sports Contracts
14:00 to 22:34
The hosts discuss the challenges athletes face in securing contracts after injuries.
“So, Ocho, y 'all tell me what team is going to put belief in him thinking, you know, not thinking that he's going to do the same thing to them.”
Navigating Pro Sports Contracts
22:47 to 24:24
The hosts discuss the challenges athletes face in securing contracts after injuries.
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Reflections on Financial Growth
24:28 to 28:00
The hosts share personal stories about their financial journeys and the value of hard work.
“I'm Glenn Washington, host of Snap Judgment, the award-winning storytelling podcast from KQED.”
From Hard Work to Success
28:00 to 30:13
Learn about the value of hard work and perseverance in achieving success.
“No, because the chickens are in the chicken house.”
Family Gatherings and Work Ethic
30:14 to 33:18
Hear about the importance of family and the work ethic shared within it.
“I worked that hard for the Broncos, for the Ravens, for Fox, for CBS, ESPN.”
Plans and Travel Talks
33:19 to 35:13
Engage in discussions about travel plans and casual conversations among friends.
“I'm sure whatever's in Denver can wait until you have lunch with your two co-hosts.”
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Plans and Travel Talks
35:14 to 37:56
Engage in discussions about travel plans and casual conversations among friends.
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Plans and Travel Talks
38:11 to 39:25
Engage in discussions about travel plans and casual conversations among friends.
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Plans and Travel Talks
40:14 to 40:53
Engage in discussions about travel plans and casual conversations among friends.
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Viral Cooking Debate
40:54 to 42:00
Join the debate about the appropriateness of home-cooked meals on dates.
“I'm bringing over banana cotta and spaghetti meatballs.”
Cooking Myths and Personal Preferences
42:00 to 47:59
The hosts discuss various cooking myths, personal preferences regarding cooking, and humorous anecdotes related to food and relationships.
“I ain't saying now, if we were at a restaurant, I wouldn't eat it.”
Light-hearted Banter and Friendship Dynamics
48:00 to 49:13
The hosts engage in playful banter, discussing their dynamics and humorous situations, showcasing their friendship and camaraderie.
“Ocho, that don't make y 'all no bad brother because y 'all freaked out like that.”
Light-hearted Banter and Friendship Dynamics
51:29 to 51:51
The hosts engage in playful banter, discussing their dynamics and humorous situations, showcasing their friendship and camaraderie.
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Light-hearted Banter and Friendship Dynamics
53:29 to 54:02
The hosts engage in playful banter, discussing their dynamics and humorous situations, showcasing their friendship and camaraderie.
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Transcript
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3:14Shannon Sharpe:Shaquille O 'Neal reveals his NBA all-time starting five. He got Steph Curry at the one. He's got Kobe at the two. He's got Jordan at the three. He has Duncan at the four and me at the five. Nobody's beating that team. Joe, can you put a team together that would beat that team?
3:31Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, I could put a team together that would beat that team.
3:36Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to figure out how you're going to get. You got two guys that are natural born scorers.
3:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, he got Steph, Cole.
3:45Shannon Sharpe:Jordan. Mike at the three, Duncan at the four, him at the five.
3:49Chad Johnson:Yeah, I got a team that can get at them boys. Give me Bron, KD, Kevin Garnett. You said KD and Kevin Garnett twice. What'd you say? You said Kevin Garnett, KD.
4:07Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you meant KG or KD? And Kevin Garnett. Okay, you got KG. So you got Bron, KD, KG, and I'm going Hakeem.
4:20Chad Johnson:Hakeem at the five and I'll probably throw not throw I'm gonna put Penny in there as my one
4:28Shannon Sharpe:man they ain't beating them so you got Penny, Braun, KD KG we ain't gonna be able to do what y 'all ain't beating Jordan
4:36Chad Johnson:man you crazy we gonna have a mismatch on the floor here Kerry gonna have to guard some damn body ooh got a point there Ocho that's only one mismatch man they still That's all it take.
4:48Shannon Sharpe:That's all it take here. Well, hey, while you boo, John, Jordan, who Jordan guarding? He guarding LeBron or he guarding KD? He's going to have to figure that out. He's going to have to figure it.
4:59Chad Johnson:Kobe guarding LeBron or KD? Kobe probably going, yeah, I don't know, but one of them going to have their damn hands full, KD and Bron. Boy, please, y 'all acting like these ain't generational talents and players, just like Kobe and Jordan, man, please.
5:14Shannon Sharpe:You right. I think the thing is that what Shaq is doing, Shaq is just putting the best players. He ain't putting players that play together. That'll be a team. Like when they put a team for the Liberty, Joe, they're looking at, okay, who can play with who? Who can play with Steph, KD, and Bron? Who's going to be okay defending? Who's going to be okay X, Y, and Z? Who's going to be up there? Shaq just like, hey, give me Curry, Kobe, Jordan, Duncan, and myself.
5:39Chad Johnson:Yeah, and KG and Duncan, they probably going to cancel each other out. I need you to be relentless against Duncan, KG. He going to act a fool. He going to be here. And we already know how Akeem, y 'all know they played, the Rockets played the Magic in the finals. Swept him. Hey, we going to be, hey, we going to have to figure it out. That'll be a great matchup if you ask me.
6:08that is i mean um curry at the point cole bet the two jordan at the three
6:16Shannon Sharpe:um obviously all these players that you know shack played against played against duncan that was his rival uh played against jordan cole played with cole played against cole he wasn't around with steph uh yeah hold on he was in the league when Steph got there
6:36Chad Johnson:Shaq when did he come in where he was at
6:40Shannon Sharpe:Shaq played 19th season
6:41Chad Johnson:was he in Phoenix then was he in Phoenix or was he in Boston oh at the end might have been Boston yeah might have been Boston so
6:58Shannon Sharpe:it's always interesting to see when people try to put a team together. A lot of times people just put, man, I want Tom Brady, I want T.O., I want Jared, I want Brady. Who's going to be okay, Ocho, with catching three balls? Yeah, listen.
7:17Shannon Sharpe:And give me Barry, give me Barry, Walter Payton, and Jim Brown. Okay, who blocking for who? There's a reason why they started taking the fullback to the Pro Bowl. You start, okay, there's Emory and Barry. Who block it for who? That's why ain't nobody rushing no yards. So they had to start dropping off a running back and taking a fullback. So it's always interesting to watch how people put teams together. It seems like people just put teams together like, okay, let me get the five best players or the best players at these positions and see how it works. I just don't know. When you put a situation like that, I don't know if they're going to be okay catching one, two passes.
7:58Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all know they're going to be throwing fits over there.
8:03Shannon Sharpe:Brandon Ayuk, Ocho Joe, broke his silence on his situation with the 49ers. Here's what he posted on Instagram this morning. We're dealing with, you know, like them kids, and they don't get picked for the basketball game at the court. But they're the ones that brought the ball. So they're like, all right, y 'all don't want to pick me? I'm taking my ball. I'm going home. Ass boys. Little ass boys. Or like, when your kid, he got this one toy, but he don't really know how to use it correctly. So, somebody else about to pick it up and play with it. And they're like, oh yeah, this shit, lady. And they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
8:50Hold on, that's my toy. Ass boy. Little ass boy. Man, stop running from the belt. the belt coming you scared the truth is they scared they know how I get they gonna say oh yeah BA BA did this BA did that BA did you know that shit allegedly allegedly but what they not gonna say is BA suck at football cause they know how I get and they running from that belt that's on the way. It's inevitable. It's coming. Stop running. Stop being a female dog. Stop being a female dog. Stop being a little cat. Stop being a little cat. Stop running from the belt.
9:43Chad Johnson:Hey, they gotta give my man some help for real, bro. You understand what he's saying, huh? Yeah, I totally understand what he's saying, but... I get it. A lot of people probably not gonna get it, huh? I mean, for us, You know, sometimes we say things in riddle format where where where others really don't understand it. Now, the concept and what it sounds like he's trying to say is obviously I'm a 49er. Right. And the other people that might want me. Yeah. Instead of letting me go elsewhere. So someone else can have that same toy that the child is playing with. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. I want to keep him here.
10:19Chad Johnson:Yeah. I'm going to keep him here. You can tell that part based on the analogy that he did use. I mean, what you think, Joe? I don't think nobody taking a chance on that. Okay, Ocho. Who going to want to deal with that, bro?
10:34Shannon Sharpe:Like, I don't know. I think somebody will take a chance, Joe. I think the thing is that 49ers want to get some value for him. You know what I'm saying? I mean, what I don't get with him, okay. Joe Ocho, all you got to do is go rehab. how you not go rehab how you say you know what I hate this situation so bad I'm going to forego this kind of money Joe that's what I don't understand you said and everybody knows the 49ers want to move on everybody knows he wants to move on so everybody is trying to suppress the price I'm not trying to give you what you want for I just I don't believe everything he said could be true But guess what?
11:21Shannon Sharpe:It can be true and I'm going to get every dime that I'm supposed to get and if y 'all want to trade me, trade me. But y 'all going to trade me with my pocket.
11:26Chad Johnson:But if you're another team though, how can you trust his actions, bro? Considering the fact that he got that money from San Fran. That's what I'm saying. Hell, you're going to be scared, man. You're going to be cautious. So you're saying y 'all saying the 49ers want to get some value of him. But hell, who going to want to deal with that, bro?
11:47Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I mean, look, he's too talented. He's young. He's probably, what, 27, 27, Ocho, 27, 28? So he has some talent. He had over 1 ,000 yards. He can play. But look, his time in San Fran is up. And then, you know, he posted. I read that the police is going to issue a citation for him when he posted himself speeding Ocho. I say that's why you got to be careful. You never post yourself in the commission of a crime. because anything that you post that use that against you you bro if they taking lyrics and using somebody you i'm saying it a song yeah i smoked that fool over there on 15 broad somebody get killed on 15 broad guess who they coming to get ocho you you post the video this is your ig account you driving 100 110 115 miles an hour man that was it's on your account so let me get this right somebody stole your car hacking into your account and did this boy they really hate you so I think that's the thing that he's up against Ocho and Joe I think the thing is I think he can still play I think he has value but how much value Ocho I know you got to get up Ocho I know you got to sell something you move it man I know you don't want to take all this stuff with you you want$500 for this I'll give you 50 or pack it up and take it with you you know what you also got to understand is he wants out so bad that he was willing to give up that kind of money and say you know what I want to get out of here so bad I'm going to give you all that back just allow my freedom to go elsewhere I don't like nothing that bad at all listen Joe I'm with you when you're right I don't 26 million?
13:36I just want to get up out of here me too guess what you can still want to leave somewhere with a bag full of money yeah i've never seen anything like it before um a lot of people obviously they won't understand the context unless you you've been a part of the business and understand how the business works and in understanding that and he's just doing everything he can to be able to get out of there which is why he was willing to give that money up so he can go somewhere else so so let me make sure you get some value for him, though. I know that.
14:05Chad Johnson:So, Ocho, y 'all tell me what team is going to put belief in him thinking, you know, not thinking that he's going to do the same thing to them. Who's going to give him a long-term deal? He ain't getting a long-term deal after acting like this, bro. You know what? Joe, he might not get a long-term deal, but I think he's going to get a deal. You're going to come in here and prove it. You got to come in here and prove yourself. What we call those, Ocho, the prove-it deal. You're going to get a prove-it deal, especially coming off that ACL, right, O?
14:32Shannon Sharpe:Yes, but he's two years Remember, Joe, he did that two years ago. Last year, he rehabbed. Yeah. So he should be good. Hey, Joe, he can go, Joe.
14:41Chad Johnson:No, no, I know he can go. But at the same time, man, y 'all don't know how injuries, well, y 'all do. But you know how injuries can affect you sometimes, bro, when you can't get out there and compete and play. You know, to me, I understand metaphorically what he was saying. I understood all that. But at the same time, bro, I mean, some of the antics he's been doing, bro. I mean, to have another team take a liking to you, to want to take a chance on you, come on, bro. Sometimes I'll be wondering what some of these cats be thinking, man.
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15:13Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, like I said, I don't get it. I can still – look, Ocho, I might be looking for another job. How many people are on a job looking for another job? Hey, until that job comes available, I ain't leaving no state of income. I mean, some people just quit and, hey, quit their job and pack their stuff up and go way over here.
15:36Chad Johnson:Nah.
15:37Shannon Sharpe:I put my faith in the Lord. I put my faith in him, too, but I ain't going to be no fool in the process.
15:42Chad Johnson:Look, look, look. We one percenters, bro. Yeah. Like, you ain't. Yes. I mean, you ain't making this type of money, bro, on a year-to-year basis after football. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
15:54Shannon Sharpe:They're few and bar between. Oh, man. Every once in a while, you get a Tom Brady situation. or you'll get a Tony Romo situation. You'll get a Chris Collins work. But think about what we just said. I ain't named a four people. Hell, there have been 25 ,000 men that play in the NFL. You know? Hey, hey. I mean, yeah. You get a situation like Ocho and I and yourself, Joe, we do good. That we don't have to mess with our savings because we have jobs that bring in income and we don't have to touch our savings and hopefully it lasts for a rainy day. But everybody's not like that. Absolutely. You know what the scary part is, Uncle Joe?
16:30What's that? That position, there's so many that can do exactly what he does. Yes.
16:37Chad Johnson:There's so many, Joe, that can do exactly what he does. And they're younger, too. They're younger. Bro.
16:46Shannon Sharpe:And they just had to draft. Yeah. They just had to draft. This game, it will move on without you.
16:53Chad Johnson:Man, it's easy. stop it's easy it's easy for you to get faded out bro i'm telling you man look yeah i i i took this with pride and dignity i'm talking about when i got into the nba uncle and ocho i want to maximize as much money as i can make i want to maximize my potential and it was on a night-to-night basis i ain't gonna lie i was nervous and scared as i don't know what to get out there and compete against some of the guys i grew up watching idolizing but i took that fear bro and embraced it you know I never thought about some of the crazy stuff I've seen some of these guys do who are professional athletes, bro.
17:32Chad Johnson:I just, to mess up my money? Oh, hell no. And
17:37Shannon Sharpe:my thing is that I knew when you young, you think you're going to play forever. Oh, yeah, I got me a good 15, 20 year career. And then when you wake, I mean, you go to bed one night, you wake up, you're in year five. You close your eyes again, you're in your team, you're like, damn. It go by so fast. It go by so fast. Professional athletes are not like, unless you're a golfer, you can have an extended career play, you know, minus injuries. But for like a basketball, football player, obviously baseball players can play a little longer because there's not as much wear and tear on the body. But you're not going to have no lawyer or no doctor career where you play in 25, 30 years.
18:22Shannon Sharpe:You're going to forget that. so where doctors and lawyers might make their money over a long period of time you make your money in a finite period of time make as much money as you can in that 5 10 15 year window if you're fortunate enough to get to 20 have at it but make as much money as you can because the likelihood of when your career is done of you making that kind of money everybody ain't gonna be no damn michael jordan i'm sorry i hate to tell you i hate to bring it to you. You're not going to be LeBron and you're not going to be... A lot of these guys and I joke, they're making so much money now, Ocho, when they play, they ain't worried about nothing.
18:58Shannon Sharpe:These guys are making$400,$500,$600 million. Even after taxes and you pay everything, you still should have$200 million living. $200 million making 8%. You ain't even touching the principle and you're living off$15,$20 million a year. That's if you spend. yeah so it's different now than when when you and I played man man I remember I remember getting them every two weeks and getting a check for $5 ,500 yeah
19:38Shannon Sharpe:that's all you what I ain't never seen $5 ,500 I ain't never seen$1 ,000 at one time. Well, once I got, my brother would send me if I did something really good. I remember I got my first check, Joe, that thing said$5 ,511. Man, I went to the bank and cashed the whole check. I got to bring this home and put this on.
19:59Shannon Sharpe:Hey, that lady said about Mr. Sharp, would you like to open an account? No, I'd like you to open that drawer and give me $5 ,511. That's what I'd like for you to do. Don't ask me no question, lady. And don't call nobody and say, Shanna Sharp just took out$5 ,500. because I got to go home and I got to see this $5 ,500 laid out on the bed. Hey, George, I remember them days, boy. Man. The meat and potatoes of your career, Joe.
20:24Chad Johnson:Yeah. Seeing that check every Monday, you know, direct to pod, but just going up there, getting that check, and seeing that, you know,$300 ,000,$350 ,000. Every Monday, Joe.
20:37Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I used to go get my check. They're like, well, you know what, Joe? You know I only got direct deposit in the last two years. For real? Yes. Fox told me they would not send me my check. I would have to get a direct deposit. Prior to that, everybody sent me my check. Damn. I got to see it. I need to see it. I got to see it. I need to see it. Hey, Alex. Our financial guy used to name that Alex. Alex, I need to get that. Get in there. Hey, Shatter, how you doing? I do a lot better when you have it out. Hey, hey. Hey, hey.
21:13Chad Johnson:You see the big number, boy, 700, 700, 800K. Ooh! Hey, Joe, you know what's gonna be so funny? You know, Monday we go in there, everybody go up, they get their checks. Yeah. They be down in the locker room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And compare, compare, dog. Hold that thing up to the light. It used to be so funny, man. Hey, them boys be down there and violent.
21:39Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I like to, and I like, see, I just like to hold my money sometimes. I messed up the Broncos payroll. They sent me a check I deferred. In 99, I deferred a large part of my money. And they sent me, but I had forgot I deferred it on Joe and Joe. So when they sent it to me, I think, okay, it's a little something, you know, maybe a little$5 ,000. I had to think, I sent it in the drawer. They called me like a month later. They're like, Shannon, we sent you a check. I said, yeah, yeah, I got it. They're like, is something wrong? I'm like, no, it's in the drawer. They're like, we're going to cut you another.
22:22Shannon Sharpe:Just tear that one up. We're going to cut you another one. How much was it?
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25:05Shannon Sharpe:I think almost$2 million. Ooh! Woo! Why you got that money, Joe? Joe, it didn't dawn on me I forgot that my agent and I said we were going to defer the money. So I'm just I think it's a regular check. You know what it was? I just thought it was like thought it was like$50 ,000. I ain't in no rush to cash no$50 ,000 check. But it was like, and I was like, they was like, Shannon, we're gonna reissue you a check. Because they had messed up. Because they looking like, hold on. Why is almost$2 million still outstanding from the account? And they was like, damn. They called me. It was right in the drawers of my bedside table.
25:52Shannon Sharpe:hadn't even opened anything.
25:54Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm.
25:56Shannon Sharpe:But I I cashed. They told me to go cash in. But yeah, no, no, no. Until 2016, I didn't have direct deposit. No, no. You just sent me, CBS sent me my check. I need to get that. Broncos, give me my check. The Ravens, let me get that. But I'll tell you one thing. Boy, that man upstairs been good, Joe. Ooh. Oh, man. Not good. Great. He's been great. To go from what it used to be while I was playing and to fall off that mountain, to climb my ass and work my ass off to get back to that mountain. Hello. And now I got about 50 to 11 jobs, and now them checks looking the exact same way they used to damn near 15 years ago.
26:45Chad Johnson:Hey. Hey. He may not come when you want him to, but he always on time.
26:50Shannon Sharpe:Always on time. It is. But you know what, Joe? I think the thing is for me is that I appreciate it because I remember working for$5 a day. I remember working for$12 a day. I remember working for$16 a day. I remember catching 1 ,000 chickens for$1 ,000. After working in the fields and making$5 a day. And my uncle blowing the horn at me and my brother going out there because our crew was mainly our cousins. me spanking uh uh lanny eugene arnell uh robbie bernard sometimes uh uh uh it was about eight of us but the the oldest one we're all for the most part arnell was the oldest because he a year younger than my sister he was the oldest we had like two dudes like within their 20s but most of us were teenagers yeah making a dollar thousand and the most we catch because we had a small because we a young small crew with$16 ,000.
27:47Shannon Sharpe:So that's$16 plus the$8 or the$12 that I made. So now that's$28. $28 back in the 70s, I don't know if y 'all noticed, I don't want to break it to you, was a lot of damn money. $28 was a lot of damn money. And to go from making$28 to $1 ,000 a day or$5 ,000 or$10, if you can't appreciate that that's why I appreciate everything I get damn you holding everything you damn right I still got the fax machine I still got all that I don't let nothing go absolutely not because I worked too hard and I know how hard it was to get it and I appreciate it
28:33Chad Johnson:yeah hey that's where you and your brother get that damn get up and get out from chasing them damn chicken Yeah.
28:40Shannon Sharpe:Yes! No, but no, no, no, no, no, no. We got to get out for catching pigs. No, because the chickens are in the chicken house. Well, I don't know. You're in Arkansas. Purdue, I think. But where is Purdue at? Is Purdue in Arkansas, the chicken? But if you're in the state of Georgia, if you eat the Claxton Portrait playing, anybody that's passed through a 301 and passed right through there on the right-hand side, if you're coming down and headed towards Glenville and south, or if you're going back the other way, it's on the right-hand side. Left if you're coming down, right if you're going back. There's a place called Clackett Portrait Plant.
29:14Shannon Sharpe:That's who we worked for. That was the chicken thing. So the chickens came and you worked from Sunday through Thursday. You didn't work on Fridays and Saturday because the plant was closed. Saturday and Sunday. So the last load we got Thursday, so they processed that on Friday. So you was off Saturday and Sunday, and then Sunday they brought the load back in right there for the Monday morning. So you got deboners, you got, you know, plunkers and things like that. But it made us appreciate working those long, long hours. And people like now when we, you know, we went 14 straight days. We did 27 days of 31 in May.
29:54Shannon Sharpe:That's what y 'all did. Now me, I taped seven episodes of Club Chay. So now I did 34 shows in 31 days. Damn. plus the other stuff I had to do for LaPortier. So for me, hard work, it don't bother me. Because the way I look at it, you know how I look at it, guys? I worked that hard for the Broncos, for the Ravens, for Fox, for CBS, ESPN. You mean to tell me I can't work that hard for my damn self? Hello. What's wrong with that bitch? I wish you were right, you know. Hell nah. Yeah, and plus, like, you know, I had all the kids. I had all my kids last night. We went to dinner. And it's a rarity that I all get them all together.
30:40Shannon Sharpe:Obviously, my youngest daughter, she's finishing up residency, and Key is married, and so, you know, try to get the kids. And my daughter-in-law here, and Kayla doing her own thing. But I got the kids together. And I looked around, and I'm like, damn, I got all my babies in one spot. It's been a while since I had them all together. And I can honestly say they hard workers. Now, they, I mean, they got, you know, my youngest, my oldest, she got the drive and she's starting to see, like, if I really, really won't, I'm going to have to, like, get to this other gear. Kind of like my, because all my kids ask myself, like, Dad, when are you going to slow down?
31:22Shannon Sharpe:I say, slow down and do, tell me what your dad going to do and slow down. What am I going to do? What am I going to do? Sit around and do what? Ocho and Joe, I've been home. I've been home since Tuesday. My TV has been on twice. That's to watch the Spurs game. And I'm like, it really dawned on me today. I was like, if I don't talk to Bucket, if I don't talk to Burns,
31:58Shannon Sharpe:this dude called me today hey um um um i'll be there later i was like okay ocho hey let's do something what we gotta show it out hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey let's go let's go to the city i said ocho i got a show tonight we got a show tonight and i gotta get up in the morning i gotta be on the plane hey what about breakfast i said bye
32:24Chad Johnson:He called me on that same type of time. Hey, man, I'm in Atlanta. Let's go hit up. I asked him. I said, damn, ain't we working tonight, Ocho? He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we go up there. Man, boy, please. Hey, you see what I'm talking about? You see how y 'all? I come to the city. I know Uncle's here. Joe, I promise you when I think we did the show, what, two nights ago, I said I'm going to come so we can go to Cosmo, Atlanta. Yeah. We're going to leave tomorrow. Yeah. Y 'all ain't believe I was coming. I come to town, y 'all don't want to hang with me. Because you done cried wolf so damn much.
32:59We don't know when you was here. Well, I'm here. So we'll be going to breakfast. Uncle Joe?
33:09Shannon Sharpe:I got a manicure pedicure in the morning. Wait, that can wait until we eat. Bro, I got to get on the flight. My flight leaves at 11. You can catch another flight. What are you talking about? I got to get to Denver. I got stuff planned. I got stuff to do. I'm sure whatever's in Denver can wait until you have lunch with your two co-hosts. Guess what? Me and my two co-hosts, we're going to have a week off where we all off together. When is that?
33:40Shannon Sharpe:After the World Cup, the 20th. No, no, no. Man, listen, I'll tell you what. We going to breakfast tomorrow morning. Can't. Y 'all see this. Hey, Joe, you been to Toast?
33:52Chad Johnson:Yeah, they got some good food in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, so we going to go to Toast tomorrow at 7 a.m. 7? Yeah, so you got enough time because he got a flight at 1130. Oh, you going to be up at 7?
34:06Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah, I'll be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, I'm going to pay. I'm going to pay, too. All right, all right. Hey, y 'all, you got something? I sure hope it ain't no wait time. That was the real ones. How you know Tose?
34:21Chad Johnson:I mean, Tose gonna even be open at 7? I'ma call Steve. Don't start me lying. I'ma call Steve. I know the owner. Yeah, yeah. Hey, we all gonna hang out and stuff. Yeah. Hey, Joe, don't forget. Tomorrow, you gonna pick me up? Yeah, I gonna pick you up, Ocho. Hey, what you driving? Can I smoke in your car? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What kind of car you gonna drive, Joe? Come on, man. Come on, man. You asking police questions now. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Yeah, and Dab, he's out here trying to pop. Hey, Joe will fix you up. Hey, Josh, I'm going to pull up my style. So I can - Yeah, yeah, we're going to be all right.
34:54We're going to be all right. Hey, I want to be outside the window. Yeah, y 'all see me and Joe, bitch. Man, Toast is going to open up at 9 AM, man.
35:01Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, you out of gas, Ocho. I have to catch you next time.
35:04Chad Johnson:They're going to open up at 9 AM. You sure? It's not open up in no day at 7 o 'clock, but Waffle House, it's IHOP.
35:10Shannon Sharpe:OK, hey, I'll catch you. We'll catch you. I'll catch y 'all next time around. one time a year, so we -
35:19Chad Johnson:You'll be back. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, let's go to Vegas, bro. Who? Let's go to Vegas. Man, that's five hours away. Damn, what, what, bro, you like to travel, don't you? Damn, you make it seem like you walking. I know, bro. The hell? You know, hey, a Legion in Frontier they ain't got no wifi on their plane. Oh, man. Well, hop on Delta.
35:38Shannon Sharpe:You can't get no Delta flight? What, you know how much Delta costs? Yeah, Delta, hey, yeah, I know how Delta costs. I know, too. What? Y 'all tripping.
35:52Chad Johnson:Hell, I'm thinking about catching this up in my mouth. I'm looking for a reason to go to Vegas, hell.
36:02Shannon Sharpe:What'd you try to go to Vegas for, Joe? I gotta go across town.
36:06Chad Johnson:I gotta go across town and see a man by the horse. Oh, you wanna see? Oh, so you gotta see a man by the horse. Hello.
36:11Shannon Sharpe:Hello. Okay, okay, okay.
36:13Chad Johnson:Hey, Joe, you try to get on the table, Joe? Oh, man, I mean, if y 'all want to go do something, we can do a little something now. We can, you know, play a little blackjack, throw some crap. Hey, first of all, Ocho ain't going to do nothing. Joe, I don't care. He want to go to the$5 table where the table's crowded. No, no, no. I paid it. Hey, Joe, I get$200 out of the ATM, and I play the$25 table blackjack. No, we got to play at least$100 a hand, Ocho. That ain't happening. Not over here. No, sir. No, sir. Damn. No, sir. $25 table, boy. Once my$200 run out, I'll watch y 'all play. Damn.
36:49Shannon Sharpe:Man. That ain't going to be long. Hey, you get a bad, hey, Joe, he get a bad shootout. Hey, the last time, the last time when we went to watch the Canelo Bud fight, at my hotel, Joe, I paid the$25 tables.
37:04Chad Johnson:Yeah. I walked away with$700. Oh, really? Yeah, I walked away with$700. I know when to get up out of there. How many people is at your table? Three. Do you know them? Nah, they were helping me, though. Oh, okay. I don't know how to play blackjack that good. I know I got to be the dealer, but the people next to me were helping me.
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40:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey, check this out. The post is going viral after a woman tweeted, Sixth date with this guy. I'm bringing over banana cotta and spaghetti meatballs. We're having movie night. Joe, people are arguing that he should be coming over or she should cook it at his house. What you saying, Joe? Joe, you first. What's going on?
41:15Chad Johnson:First off, you don't eat anybody's spaghetti now. I think we all know that. That's a wrap already. We ain't, nah, nah, hell nah. Nah. She got the, we gotta come up with a better dish than this. Yeah, we can have.
41:32Shannon Sharpe:Pork chops, stew chicken, oxtail. For some damn spaghetti? Mac and cheese, yeah. And I ain't need nobody's spaghetti. Come on, man. Hold on, you cook that at your, first of all, even if I see you cook it, you ain't, first of all, you ain't gonna cook no spaghetti at my house and I'm gonna eat it. I'm not gonna come into your house and eat your spaghetti. No, no, spaghetti, like I said, ain't nothing red, you cook it.
41:52Chad Johnson:What she got at?
41:54Shannon Sharpe:Pizza, none of that.
41:55Chad Johnson:She got some mean meatballs in there, old boy.
41:58Shannon Sharpe:They look good. Hey, they look good now. I ain't saying now, if we were at a restaurant, I wouldn't eat it. I'm just saying, she cooked.
42:07Chad Johnson:What's up with that myth, bro? Why we, you know?
42:12Shannon Sharpe:Well, I'm just going about what the old people told me when I was a kid, them old men, and they passed it down, I'm just passing it down. Now, I'll eat. And I take that word for it. because most of the stuff that we hear got passed down. It's passed down. I mean, when it was thunder and lightning, my grandmother, we cut off every electronic. We took the phone off the hook. We put a sheet over the mirror because they said spirits came out of the mirror. So we covered it up so they couldn't get their ass out of there. You couldn't talk. You get away from the windows. You unplug everything. Because, boy, look here, if you want to get my grandma hot, you be talking.
42:54Shannon Sharpe:It's already hot in the house. So we had the isolated fan. Ain't nothing. I ain't asked no question. Mary Porter said, hey, this Y &B, and to this day, I don't do none of that. The fan going, now I don't do no talking. I do cut the TV off. But as far as I ain't covering no mirrors and unplugging all that stuff. But when we was growing up, we had to do all that. Get away from the windows. Unplug everything. take the phone off the hook and put a sheet over the mirror. Yeah. Hey, Joe, you let people cook for you, Joe?
43:32Chad Johnson:My lady. Yeah. You let people cook for you? You let people cook for you?
43:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. Not at the rip now. Not at the rip. Not at the rip. It ain't going to be no, hey, hey, I want to cook for you. No, you not. No, you don't. No. You got to get like six months. You got to get about six months. Yeah, yeah. I ain't with it.
43:58Chad Johnson:You don't, you don't, you don't, you don't cook for you. You don't want. I would, I've been nobody I've ever dated. I don't, I don't care if that's a part of your skill set, knowing how to cook. I just, there's something that's, that's not a prerequisite for me. A lot of men, you know, they, they want someone that can cook and, and that just, that's never been something that, that, that I require, Joe. I don't know why, because you know, I like to go places. Yeah. I like to go out and eat. even if it's the smallest meal. I'd rather go somewhere and eat at a restaurant and be able to take care of the service industry.
44:28I just don't like women cooking. I don't want you slaving behind no stove. Even if you can, that's cool. If you're able to, that's fine. That's just something I don't require. A lot of people make fun of me like, you ain't nothing like having a woman that can cook. Well, nigga, if I wanted to date a chef, I would date a chef. I ain't going to lie with you. Yo, I had a couple that, hey, I promise you,
44:53Shannon Sharpe:I promise you, as far as cooking, ain't nobody beating on me. I had one, she go to any restaurant, Mastro's, Steak 48, any place, she could taste it and go home and make it the next day. Oxtail, I'm talking about, you name it. Oxtails, ribs, chicken, you name it.
45:21I don't know, it's weird, Joe.
45:22Chad Johnson:They say the best way to get a man is through his stomach. I don't know, I don't know. Well, I used to be trying to be in his stomach, so I guess it's fair.
45:37Chad Johnson:Hey, Joe, you see who it is, Joe? See how you went left field? Hey, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, that's why you and him fighting for number one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We talking about eating food, and here he go. He can't help it. Ocho, he's just like you. He can't help me. What do you mean? He a little more dim with his, as you kind of bright out there with Joey. You know what I'm talking about? No, I've been talking about food and not. He just left field in people's stomach. What? He can't help it, Ocho. Don't make him no bad brother because he talking about it. You know, he's still a good dude. Hold on, hold on.
46:14Joe, this man
46:15Shannon Sharpe:he talking about food and all he talking about is grocery. That's all he talking about. Joe, did I mention anything about that tonight? I've been nice and cool and humble, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad, my bad, my bad. But I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie, Joe. That look good now. Yeah. That look good. But you know what? I did. I went, when I was in Florence, you know, when I went on my vacation, I went way over the wrong. It took the train a couple of hours up to Florence. That family cook, that family cook, man, I had a gnocchi. I had, man, I'm talking about they making everything from scratch.
46:58Chad Johnson:You went over there and had a time, boy. I see the eyes, I could tell. I could tell, I could tell, boy. Every time you talk about that moment, boy, you skinning and grinning. Boy, I know you had a time in your life.
47:16Shannon Sharpe:You ate they food? It is? Yep.
47:20Chad Johnson:It ain't more than some damn food over there, I tell you that.
47:23Shannon Sharpe:No, there you go. You too nice to see Joe. You went too far. I see Joe. Do you cross this? Keep it to 100, huh? See, Joe. Joe, the saying is, you crossed the Rubicon. That's too far. That's too far, Joe. There you all see. You see what I'm talking about? Oh, Joe. You see what I'm talking about? They chant. Don't be all at it. Now see what he try to be. Joe try to be subtle with it. Hey, hey, Ocho, Ocho, he ate, that ain't all he ate. Ain't nothing. We talk about the people cooking. I say the people made the no-key and all this stuff, the Italian cuisine from scratch, and the bread, and all this.
47:57Shannon Sharpe:And here you go. Man, hey, hey, hey. Now y 'all should get an opportunity to see Joe who what he is.
48:02Chad Johnson:Listen, listen, listen. What he is. Ocho, that don't make y 'all no bad brother because y 'all freaked out like that. That don't make y 'all no bad brother. I ain't got nothing to do with it. That's y 'all two. Y 'all still some good dudes, man. It's okay. It's okay. Embrace it.
48:17Shannon Sharpe:All I know is out of this three, I'm three. Man, Chad don't even believe that. Ocho one. Joe two. Don't make it. Hey, Chad. One, two. Chad, what they say about them quiet ones? Chad, what they say about them quiet ones? Joe definitely won.
48:32Chad Johnson:Look how they trying to put all the fingers at me. You're pouring four right back at you. I called Joe today. He said, nah. I said, Joe, why you ain't answer? I FaceTimed Joe as soon as my plane landed. Yeah. Right, because I was calling Joe to pick me up because I ain't want to pay for no Uber. He didn't leave the guy. I hit Joe back about three hours later. I said, Joe, I FaceTimed you as soon as I landed. Where you was at? Oh, man, I was tied up. I was in handcuffs. I said, oh, you don't say. Joe went and got some handcuffs. I said, I said, I was tied up, ropes and handcuffs. You know what I mean?
49:07Chad Johnson:You know how I mean? Meaning I was out of pocket. I was doing other things. You know what I mean? I didn't say that it was what I mean. Nah. I love it. Look, see this was Misery Loves Company, right? That when y 'all trying to, yeah, I see what going on. Y 'all always trying to deflect and throw it on me. But we already know, Chad already know. It's okay, man. Look, I don't look at y 'all no different. You know, I still think y 'all -
49:32Shannon Sharpe:That's what I'm saying. I think they got some good dudes. That's what they say, man. Ocho, they be asking, say, man, did y 'all know Joe before he came on the show? Because he blend so well. I say, nah. He freaky. The N-word freaky. That's why he blend. No. I say, proud of Joe being on the show, I had never spoken to Joe. I don't know if Ocho had ever spoken to Joe. I say, well, man, how he blend?
49:58Chad Johnson:Now, I'm just, hey, that's all I'm saying, man. Y 'all some good dudes.
50:02Shannon Sharpe:Did I say because him and Ocho? No, no, no. Birds of a feather flock together. Nope, nope, nope. I ain't got any of it. See, when you ever see, let me ask you a question. You ever see penguins and pigeons hanging? Nope. Nah. Birds of a feather. Penguins hang with penguins. Pigeons hang with pigeons. Hawks hang with hawks. Eagles hang with eagles.
50:20Chad Johnson:I also. Hey, I'm an eagle. I'm soaring up above all the rest. You hear me? I ain't down there low fruit hanging. I ain't doing all that. I just increase my altitude when they ain't getting, you know what I mean? I just keep going. Yeah, I tell you what. I'll be the vulture. I'm eating everything on the ground. See what I'm talking about?
50:40Shannon Sharpe:We know. Hey, who's surprised by that? Who's surprised that he's a vulture?
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