Nightcap Hour 2: Seahawks Rashid Shaeed joins NIGHTCAP, Dana White talks UFC on PARAMOUNT + Brandon Aiyuk FINISHED in San Francisco + Ben Johnson tells Bears it's BACK to SQUARE 1

14:48Shannon Sharpe:I told y 'all that my cousin. Y 'all heard what he said? Yeah, I told y 'all that my cousin. Yeah, I got you. I'm going to let you focus. I'm going to let you focus. After y 'all win the Super Bowl, then I got you. Yeah, hear me this offseason about that and about training too. Matter of fact, hey, come back. You know, JSN came to the receiver camp, the wide receiver workshop last year, man. Come on down here, man. Let me get a little work in. Okay, more definitely. Well, congratulations, man. The trade, everything has worked out brilliantly. You're one win away from reaching your ultimate team destination, which is getting to the Super Bowl.

15:28Shannon Sharpe:So congratulations. Stay healthy. Rashid Shahid, the great return man for the Seattle Seahawks. And he played a little offense also. Thank you, man. Thanks for joining us, bro. Appreciate you guys. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Appreciate you, man. Y 'all take care. Oh, man. All right, fellas. Hey, man. Back to CJ Stroud. Derrick Lewis. You know who Derrick Lewis is, right? UFC? Black Beast? Oh, yeah. Hey, hey. Matter of fact. Hey, I want to fight him. Oh, shit. Derrick Lewis says CJ Stroud might be cursed. Let's take a listen to the reasons, Ocho, of why he says or why he thinks what he thinks.

16:10Shannon Sharpe:Okay. What moves would you like to see the Texans make for next season? I guess we got to see what's going on with CJ. I think ever since we've seen him show up with Amber Rose at the softball game a few years ago and Kim Kardashian and all that, and I'm like, man, it might be like a curse for him.

16:31I don't listen man I didn't know

16:35Shannon Sharpe:you were going to say that Ocho I don't like that so just for that tell Derrick Lewis man he got to see me you hear me on I mean his personal life off the field ain't got nothing to do with on the field there ain't no goddamn curse things just didn't go well he didn't play well he knows that he took accountability for that so now Derrick Lewis boy I you got to see me at least three rounds three rounds. I don't I don't even know Ocho you'll go around. Hey, hey, let me tell you something. One thing about it, right? Now we could talk about NFL players. We can do that. We not going to have no outsiders, whether you're a fan of the team or not disrespecting my young colleagues.

17:22Shannon Sharpe:He just said he'd think that there might be Ocho. This is not the first time that you've heard about the Kardashian curse. It's not. Hey, come on. We're not doing that. I'm not saying there's any validity to it, but let's not pretend that you haven't heard about it. Yeah, but I don't believe in all them superstitions. Oh, Joe, you got to realize he's a Houstonian. Hey, you know what, Unc? What? You making it worse for Derek Lewis because the more you talk about it, the more I'm going to beat his ass. I'm for real. Man, we got to go down houston man who me and you shouldn't mean but the hell you say i ain't going nowhere but that um we're going to houston that's the devil's playground i just got saved two months ago i just got saved hey i got my pig fork out back

18:16hey oh hold on hold on so derrick derrick lewis he in houston yeah he from houston yeah I'm gonna have to go see him boy I'm gonna have to go see him where he trained at

18:28Shannon Sharpe:you know he got they fight Saturday here he fighting Costa in Vegas yes okay okay I'm gonna let him hey chat y 'all do me a favor tell Derek Lewis I wish him good luck against Costa Costa whoever he got to fight but after that after he fight Costa Costa and win and do whatever he needs to do you got to see me boy octagon boxing ring mma wrestling on the ground groundwork pounding man whatever you want to do you ain't finna talk about stride like that but yeah see sometimes when they when when the big dudes um you know they feel they feel safe being able to comment like that and they it ain't no pushback because don't know everybody's scared of them so it takes somebody like me like to kind of set the record straight like you ain't you ain't finna just be able to say what you want to say in front of the camera.

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21:39Shannon Sharpe:It's now time to welcome Daniel Watt. We had a great conversation with him a few hours ago, Ocho. So, Chad, check out the conversation that Ocho and I had with the man of the hour, head of the UFC, Mr. Dana White. All right, we got a very special guest joining us, the final boss of the UFC. He's going to tell us about UFC 324, Justin Gaethje versus Patty the Batty Pemblitt. This is UFC's first fight on Paramount+. The new landmark deal that was signed in 2025, the first of two back-to-back marquee events being followed by UFC 325 Volonovsky versus Lopes 2 the second on January 31st Dana why would you know the thing in marketing Dana never give anything for free that people will pay for UFC have been pay-per-view for the longest why was it so important for you to sign this deal with Paramount Plus so UFC would be people would if you have a subscription you'd be able to watch it for free

22:36Dana White:Well, a couple different reasons. First of all, my goal was always, I truly believed when I grew up, there was Channel 3, Channel 5, Channel 8, and Channel 13. Then in high school, cable came at HBO and like 30 channels, MTV and all that stuff. I truly believed that as technology got better, there was going to be a Channel 3, Channel 5, Channel 8, and Channel 13 again, but it would be global. and I've always felt that you know my sport works everywhere fighting everybody gets it everybody likes it and if you get the right fight in the right place at the right time the ceiling is 8 billion 8 billion people in the world and if you put on the right fight a lot of people are going to tune in and watch this is what I've been dreaming of where everybody could watch the same fight on the same channel at the same time so So streaming always made sense to me.

23:32So I was all yeah, when it when you talk about making the right fights, when you talk about marketing and branding and wanting to continue to evolve the UFC and going in the right direction. How do you decide what are the right fights that the people want to see?

23:48Dana White:First of all, what's up brother? Good to see you. And you know, it's all about matchmaking. Everything is about matchmaking. You go out and you find the best up and young talent in the world that you think has the potential to become a world champion someday. And then as the fights, as you make the fights, they all start to play out. It almost becomes like a soap opera. That's why the UFC has been so successful. Everybody's under contract with us. And, you know, boxing became this thing where if you lost one fight, you lost all your luster and shine. And, you know, it was over. lose multiple fights and and when i noticed that people didn't care they just wanted to see great fights was arturo gotti arturo body would put on these knock down drag them out wars and he kept and even if he lost he would sign new big deals with hbo you know we want to see we want to see great fights we want to see you know find that dog in them and and you know and that's why there's trilogies when there's a great fight then they do it again and if it's great again and the other guy wins you do it a third time so i i always believed in this and i always felt like uh as long as you match make well this is what i sell holy shit moments for a living so if you put on a fight the card that night and you get two three four holy shit everybody jumps out of their seat and you know goes crazy whether you're at home you're in a bar or you're there alive you've had a successful night when you when you talk when you look at go ahead now we're going to talk about holy moments when you talk about matchmaking and making and putting the right product inside the octagon right is there a fight that you've always wanted that you weren't able to to get accomplished or one that you see later on in the future that you'd like to see get in the ring that will obviously be a holy moment yeah i mean you need that you need that marquee fight you know the big one at the top that everybody's like oh i've been waiting for this and then you build a bunch of great fights underneath it right what you really want to do is listen guys and i know you both can relate to this so being a boxing fan boxing would come in and they'd put on this show the main event was all anybody gave a shit about right yep and then they build a card under it and you would stay more importantly than anything i'm asking you to stay home every saturday night right now you have friday and friday is really not fair because you you work you don't get out of work till five six seven sometimes and then you have a very limited time that night saturday is your whole day you got night you got wife you got kids there's a new movie that came out maybe there's another game that you're interested in and you have to sit and watch my product that you know and i have to deliver for you now what boxing would do is they'd come out you know once or twice a year and they put on an event i'd stay home on saturday night and i go god damn it they got me again that was terrible right and there's it's like a going out of business sale every time they put on a fight they grab as much money as they could get and then they disappear for a year and then they come back and we're so stupid we forgot how bad the last one was and we did it again and uh you know that's that's what i wanted to change when we built the ufc and it's what i want to change uh in boxing now this fight that we're putting on on friday night on paramount plus the whole cards combined record is 227 and nine and the top three fights everybody's undefeated so at the end of 2026 and if you're in zufa boxing and you're still undefeated it actually

27:33Shannon Sharpe:really means something yeah you look at 324 when i look at your matchup you got justin gaethje who has dynamite he's gonna fight patty the baddie he's gonna fight you got waldo cortez acosta and derrick lewis the black beast he's gonna fight you got sugar sean o'malley who's looking to bounce back daniel he's looking to bounce back from a subpar performance last time oh malley loves to

27:55Dana White:knock people out and strike he's fighting song yadong who does the same exact thing is that what

28:01Shannon Sharpe:you're looking for like like in boxing you were just talking about boxing you know for the longest time people only gave a damn about the heavyweight division it's not like that in ufc these smaller guys all they want to see is action and you may look i'm not paying you to come out here and dance around and get a decision people want to see knockouts this is why they love the ufc more so than boxing this is what they expect an elbow a spinning kick a knee or something get his ass out

28:30Dana White:of here there's so many different ways to win and so many different ways to lose it's what makes the sport so exciting and these kids fight their ass off and when you talk about again and what does the fight mean so you so you can match make and and and make good fights stylistically but when you look at o'malley o'malley's ranked number three in the world in the bantamweight division and song is number five so it's a very important fight that means something with two of the guys that are in the top five same thing with gaethje and toporia those guys are both top top five that's for the interim title.

29:01Dana White:The winner of that fight fights Ilya Toporia for the championship.

29:05Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Toporia, Toporia is nice. So, hold on. So, hold on. The winner of Gaethje Pimblit fights Toporia. Is that gonna be the White House fight that you're gonna make? Is that what's gonna happen? Is that what you're doing?

29:19Dana White:So, everything we're focused on right now is for the launch this weekend. Doing boxing for the first time, first fight on there. Monday. Monday, every ounce of our focus will be. I'm in the war room right now. I got the entire Sydney card done. February 7th is done. 21st, 28th, March. All these cards are done. They're all lined up. Our entire focus will be the White House fight on Monday.

29:47Shannon Sharpe:Wow. So do you have it? I mean, it looks like whoever wins out of Gachia Pemblitt fights to poor. That's looked like a White House card. Do you have anything else in mind? I heard you kind of waffling like, okay, John Jones versus Piedra, that might be a possibility. Do you have any idea? Because this is 250. This has got to be the grandest. And you've done some big events, Dana. This has got to be your biggest, your baddest, your brightest, because the entire world will be watching this. Yeah.

30:21Dana White:Well, that's the way I feel about every Saturday. It's got to be the biggest and the best. But yes, we need to deliver at the White House for sure. So yesterday, my head of production, Craig Borsari, he's been to the White House 10 times now working with their ops team and my ops team on how to put this thing together. So they did this whole video rendering. It literally shows how the sun will move across the octagon early on, what it'll look like when it's dark, like the actual trees and everything. guys this is gonna be so bad the setup that we have on this thing it's just it's incredible so much like the sphere when we did the sphere yes that was nice it's gonna be incredible and now the fighters just gotta come in and deliver now you talk about fighters delivering right i want you to picture this right you think about the white house card on stay with me real quick dana just i want you to envision this all right don't close your eyes but just envision it envision you have the product the product and Ocho right White House card we don't know who I'm gonna fight but you just put me on the card because you understand what I bring to the table and excitement that it can be with the build-up of having me they call me hella hands because I fight so well sometimes you think you're fighting two people right so boom the lights dim right and And then out of the blue, you hear the music, Litter Skin and Freebird blasting, right?

31:46And then the lights start flickering. Then the smoke comes. Then I come up out the smoke, right? Hey, and then the world, the world is going crazy. The world is going wild. And now all I need is an opponent, Dana. I need you to see my vision. Are you boxing or you UFC? No, UFC. I need to be on the White House card.

32:08Dana White:Oh, my. Now, you know I love you, okay? You know I love you. This is a really bad idea. What? I just gave you the vision.

32:24Shannon Sharpe:Zidane, unrelated, Nunez and Harrison, the fight, Kayla got injured. Is that something that might get rescheduled for the White House?

32:33Dana White:that, you know, literally the greatest female fight ever made. It's going to depend on how Kayla heals from her surgery. So, you know, there are a lot of different factors of playing who, when, what time and all that stuff. But that would absolutely be something I would put on the White House card if she was ready.

32:53Shannon Sharpe:325, Volonovski, Lopes 2. This is the first time Volonovski as a champ would be fighting on his home soil. Was that important for you? Was that important for him? How did this fight come to be?

33:04Dana White:Yeah, I mean, anytime you go into these countries, you want, you know, their guys on the card.

33:11Shannon Sharpe:Front and center.

33:12Dana White:The other thing is when you go into, you know, a place like Australia, they want to see a lot of the other fighters that they don't get to see all the time fight too. So, but yes, I mean, it's a no-brainer. I mean, we got him, co-main event is Dan Hooker. Yeah, but the answer is yes.

33:29Shannon Sharpe:Dana, this is a boxing thing. And you said, look, here's a sport that's been going on for 100 years, made trillions and trillions of dollars, and they don't have ish to show for it. And then if you want the belt, you got to pay$300 ,000 for a belt. And every time you defend the belt, you got to pay another$300 ,000 or$200 ,000 to keep the belt. That's some bull jive. I think I can come up with a better model. You see what we did with the UFC? We took a company that we bought it for$2 million, and all we had was UFC and a ring. and what we've turned it into. So I believe we can do something similar for boxing.

34:05Shannon Sharpe:Is that what your thought process is? That's why you got involved with this?

34:08Dana White:Well, you want to know what's fascinating. So when we built the UFC, I took everything that I loved about boxing and everything that I hated about boxing, and that's what I incorporated. Now, if it works for the UFC, it's got to work for boxing.

34:26Shannon Sharpe:But, Dana, you know, You was talking about growing up and how you watch boxing at the thing that I love most about you and what you've done with the UFC Back then there was no ducking sugar ray fault sugar ray fault Hagler He fought Hearns. He fought Duran. They fought each other. They fought Barkley. You go back to the 70s Ali fought Frazier. He fought Norton. He fought Foreman. He fought Ron Lyles There was no ducking and dodging and the one thing I can say about you if you do UFC I don't give a damn if you got a belt or not you gonna fight the best guy you ain't finna handpick somebody that you can get a Keep paid off Dana White Hey Dana before you go, I'm glad said that I'm glad he mentioned it and Dana you kind of talked about it earlier Where most boxers in general today?

35:13You don't want to take that zero because when you take that zero in general It diminishes everything you work your ass off for and they view you differently You can't command the type of paydays you want to if you take an L. How are you going to?

35:25Dana White:That's not true, and I prove that's not true. And here's the thing. The reason boxing became so big is because of everything that Shannon just said. The sport was loved. You built these, not just, you didn't build superstars. You built icons. You know what I mean? You know, Ali, Duran, Leonard, Hagler. The list goes on and on. You literally icons were built. Millions of people watched it free and live on ABC's Wide World of Sports, and everybody fell in love with the sport. And then it just got fractured and broken and messed up along the way. And here I am. We'll see.

36:10Shannon Sharpe:Dana, you said when you did, it's like you've done some big events. You've done events around. You've done Madison Square Garden. You've been around the world. You've been all over the place. and you said the sphere was the biggest event that you've ever done. How do you top that? How do you get the White House to top the sphere?

36:26Dana White:Yeah, so the White House, the president himself tells me, I've done so many different things and been a part of, you know, big events. And he said, I have never had people call me more and ask me for tickets to anything else I've ever done than the UFC event at the White House. you know the White House is so iconic and such you would never expect absolutely not it will never be done again this is truly a one of one of that and what an experience for anybody out of these 4 ,000 to 4 ,500 seats that I have the people that actually get to come and experience this is going to be and even to watch it on TV and I made sure you guys are going to see I built this structure I'm like I don't want to you know we usually have screens and all this shit.

37:17Dana White:I said, I don't want to see anything, but the White House, you know, is the backdrop. Backdrop. You know, the Washington Monument on the other side. That's it.

37:29Shannon Sharpe:Right. But you're going to have a staging area where fans like, OK, you got 45, you say you're going to have 4 ,500 to 5 ,000 seats that will actually be in attendance on the White House grounds. Right. And then you're going to have a staging area where, go ahead, tell us this.

37:42Dana White:Across the street is the ellipse, Like right behind the South Lawn is the ellipse. 85 ,000 people can be there. And there will be screens. We're going to have a stage. We're going to do music for the fans out there. We're going to take over D.C. that week. Oh, my goodness. Can I ask you a question? I know I'm a little bit early. Are we, are you and I, are we attending the White House event? Since Dana said I can't get on the card, are we at least going?

38:09Shannon Sharpe:Well, look, I know we're going to be a part of the sponsorship, that Dana's gonna come on and talk about it. There's a couple of days leading up to it. Hopefully we can get a couple of the fighters. I know they've been trying to make weight cut weight. So maybe earlier in the week, we'll get some of the fighters to come on to help Dana promote this thing. Cause I just look, I love, I love -

38:28Dana White:Hey, if you bump that budget and get the show out in DC, come on, let's go. Okay, we can do that.

38:32Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Dana, I really, I really - Well, we gonna need some help with that budget to do, to pull that off Dana. Because look, I go back to, I go back to UFC when UFC first started.

38:41Dana White:I'm going to smoke the whole$7.7 billion on this frigging event.

38:45Shannon Sharpe:You know what, Dana? This will be – there's a chance that this will be like a World Cup soccer match. Absolutely. This will be a billion, a billion five people actually watching because, like you said, it is free. And so if you have a subscription, and I don't know how many people have Paramount +, but I'm sure, you know, 300, 400, you know, around the world, maybe 200, 300 million people will have it.

39:08Dana White:Well, here's the great thing about Paramount +, is that now, for what used to cost you, you know, for the price of a pay-per-view. Yes. On our old deal, you got the whole year. Everything UFC for the whole year. Plus, they have tons of other entertainment and movies. I don't know if you guys are into Landman or Mobland. Mobland is good. Mobland is really good. Incredible. Good. Yes. Well, Dana, thank you for taking your time. You letting him go already?

39:36Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead. Dana. Well, he only got 15 meters. He pushed for time. UFC 324 Justin Gaethje versus Patti the Batty Pemblitt January the 24th Las Vegas T-Mobile Arena Gaethje versus Pemblitt O'Malley versus Song Don Yodan and Walter Waldo Cortez Acosta versus the Black Beast those are the main guys this is what we know when the Black Beast fight somebody going to sleep

40:00Dana White:that's the truth that is the truth and I don't know if you guys know about Waldo this guy is He came off the contender series, and he takes last-minute fights, and he viciously knocks people out. Him and Derrick Lewis is going to be ridiculous.

40:16Shannon Sharpe:Because Derrick Lewis ain't really trying to cement somebody. No, he's not. He's trying to throw cement.

40:21Dana White:100%. And the president loves, loves Derrick Lewis. So if he wins, I can just say that. He's going to be on the tar. The president's going to want him at the White House.

40:32Shannon Sharpe:That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable what he's been able to do. Dana, thanks for joining us. Thanks for joining us tonight on Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. Best of luck, and I can't wait to see the fight on Saturday tonight. Appreciate you, boys. Thank you. Appreciate it, Dana. Have a good one. You too.

40:52Shannon Sharpe:That was the final boss, Dana White, talking about the UFC going to Paramount Plus, all the cards that's coming up. You saw I mentioned the fight with Justin Gaethje and Patty Pimlet. They have another fight next weekend in Australia. And we got an opportunity to talk about the fight that's going to take place to mark the 250th anniversary of America with the fight that's going to be on the White House lawn. So it was great. It's always great having Dana stop by and talk about the UFC. Ocho, the 49ers, John Lynch. We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions.

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43:40Shannon Sharpe:It's safe to say Brandon Ayuk will not be back in San Francisco. John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan spoke a little about what happened to Ayuk. Let's take a listen to what they had to say, Ocho. Have you been able to determine why he was so upset, why he wasn't showing up, and just any background you can give on that? I wish I knew. Yeah, can't help you there. Sorry. Yeah. Has there been a line of communication with him? There was, but not anymore. At what point did that snap?

44:16Well, when I'm coaching, I don't hang out in the training room at all. so I don't see guys much that way but I'd say it officially stopped for me when last time I tried to get a hold of him and couldn't and then tried a couple more times and still couldn't and then that matched everyone else that was trying to get a hold of him and couldn't and eventually there's not much of an explanation because it's really hard for us and anyone else to understand and that's why it's something I've never seen in 22 years of coaching So just it's unfortunate. And that's it's confusing because it's confusing for all of us.

44:56So but it eventually becomes it is what it is. And you try as hard as you can to fix something that you don't understand. But it's not like we understand it very well still. But eventually you understand that it's not going to change and you got to move on with your football team, which is always the most important thing.

45:18Shannon Sharpe:I've never seen it out, Joe. I don't know. Maybe in your circle you played. I was there a couple years, a decade before you, and you stayed about seven, eight years after I left. So maybe you've seen something like this. But I've never seen anything like this. No, I've never seen it like this either. And obviously we're not going to get the answer from the coaches or the GM. Obviously everything they say is going to be PC. If we want to know what the answer is, if we want to know what the issues were, we'd have to talk to Brandon Ayuk. And at some point, I'm not sure if he's the type that will voice the issues and concerns that he had there.

45:51Obviously, he wants to move on. Them saying he's not going to be there. Well, hell, we could have told you that when he decided to give back 24 or whatever million he decided to give back by not showing up. So he really wants to get out of that situation. Something went wrong. I don't know where it went wrong. But whatever it is, listen, both sides need to move on. I'm excited to see where Brandon Ayuk is going. I'm excited to also see how well he's recovered from rehab to see how far along he is because he is one hell of a player on when he when it's time to go so I'm hoping he's not get carried away now

46:23Shannon Sharpe:he's not a top five receiver I'm not sure he's I didn't say it's only good he's a good receiver he's a good receiver that's that's good enough I can't I can't compliment the man about being good you said hey he you I said he's a really good receiver he's a really good receiver okay I didn't say he was he I ain't say he was Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson yeah okay I'm just saying you know he nice but this don't make sense to me Ocho right okay you're injured all you got to do is go rehab and leave okay the general manager try to call you your position coach try to call you the head coach you can't find the time to call back you just stop showing up there's a reason why we just don't know the reason why he wouldn't just do it for no reason of course they're not going to state what that reason is he has to do is get treatment he don't have to come to meetings you're not listening to me I am listening there's more to it than what they're going to say you're creating a scenario and making it in his simplest form and all he has to do there are other things that factor in to him not wanting to come back him not answering phone calls him not answering text messages him saying fuck y 'all take that 20 million back I don't want it.

47:35I just want out of this situation for an NFL player as much as we love getting paid as much as we love money to give 20 million plus back to the team. Just so you can get out. Let you know how bad it is.

47:50Shannon Sharpe:We've got to be. But I'm trying to figure out how I got bad. He got hurt. Now, maybe, you know what, Ocho, maybe it was a situation. you know how they how long they waited to sign the contract because you know he wanted to go somewhere else and then at the last second but they ended up doing the deal and you know what happens on you a lot of time when you wait for a period of time the player feels some type of way even though you give him his money he like why i had to wait this long yeah yeah i shouldn't have had to wait they'll let you know how they really feel about you when it's time to get paid boy yeah i like i said you're right i i will i will concede this to you i don't know if we'll ever get the answer uh i don't know if brandon i you could ever speak on it i'm sure i'm sure he will i'm sure he will at some point yeah absolutely i'm definitely anxious to see what he has to say it probably won't be right now because he wants to stay low keep it quiet until he gets to his next destination but at some point he will voice the reasons on why things were so bad of course yeah i want to get out too but i'm gonna get that money on the way out i know ultra gonna get that money on the way out yeah i'm gonna get oh once this thing become guaranteed hey y 'all know i won't up out here right but i got that money guarantee you yeah yeah yeah yeah this this is mm-hmm irreconcilable differences yeah that's what that's that's what it's down to it's crazy man yeah i've never seen like never seen nothing like this before huh no never yeah never saying never never and i know and i've seen guys really pissed at an organization yeah i've seen guys get cut for not hustling and things like that but back then Ocho we weren't dealing with the kind of money that these guys are dealing with right you know back then when we played three four million dollars a dollar damn money oh yeah you're talking about 26 million dollars 27 million dollars man man go ahead and he said totally man go ahead and take that back man I'm good And remember, it was reported that he told the union, nah, don't even fight it.

50:09Shannon Sharpe:Don't even worry about it. Don't worry about it. Hey, that's when you know you're fed up, boy. Yeah, I'm fed up, but my bank account ain't. Nah, bro. I need to get all that. And then, knowing that there are places that need receivers, I don't know, do you swap him and A.J. Brown? oh aren't both of them number 11 yeah I like I like the way you're thinking now AJ Brown to go crazy over there with god damn with Mr. Irrelevant what man him and Purdy are there cooked boy oh that's a good one I like that I like that I like that even even better than you know my my idea of him going to the Ravens oh AJ yeah look I think AJ would be great anywhere other than Philly but of course you know people being naive as well it's about old salary cap dead cap too much money yeah okay y 'all do not understand this business obviously look Pittsburgh need a receiver Buffalo definitely need a receiver yeah yeah Baltimore could probably use a guy outside the Raiders so I think they'll have some takers I think both teams I think the Eagles and the 49ers will have takers yep you definitely want to see where he is first though I mean teams are going to want to see where Brandon Ayuki is at some point he's going to have to start putting videos out showing teams that he is okay that he's able to run and stop they'll bring him in for physical they'll want to see you doing all that they want to test that ankle they want their orthopedics to tug on that knee and shake that knee and see if they have the stability that it needs they're going to want to see all that yeah

52:24Shannon Sharpe:it's just a different time now Ocho yeah it is it's just a different time it is

52:34Shannon Sharpe:to give up to give that back and like I said something like something transpired I don't know I don't know what happened maybe something was said maybe it was you know because obviously he was upset because I remember we had him on yeah we had him on now that I think about it he might come back and tell us what happened well we definitely gonna reach out you know but

53:07Shannon Sharpe:we look at Buffalo you look at Baltimore you look at Pittsburgh you look at the Raiders I saw some report that AJ back to the Titans. I'm like, I don't think AJ want to go back to the Titans. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I like the same. Cleveland could use a receiver. Nope. Don't send him over there either. No. But what I'm just saying I'm just thinking about teams that could use a receiver. Yeah, let's send him somewhere where he's going to be happy, please. Don't do him dirty. But normally the places that go make you happy, Ocho, they got to want you. Because what happens? You got to want the girl that wants you, not girl that you want well the 49ers are definitely gonna want him that ain't no problem no oh oh i thought you were talking about i thought you was talking about i thought you was oh yeah okay my bad i was saying yes a lot of times they say date the girl that you want i mean the girl that wants you right not the girl that you want yeah i mean because that's probably going to lead to the the happiness so i was saying a lot of times where we actually want to go yeah might not necessarily want us to be there so we're gonna have to find a place that really want us and like oh you really want me well then i want you too but we'll see how that will will say the chiefs the titans

54:42Shannon Sharpe:yeah

54:47I mean, I know Calvin Ridley is coming back, but is that enough?

54:52Shannon Sharpe:But he's coming back off an injury as well. Correct. And he's a little older than what he was last year. Yeah. Two players coming back off an injury? Eh.

55:07Shannon Sharpe:But, Ocho, you got to understand. Uh-huh. Brandon, you rehabbed the whole year. He didn't play. So he should be Gucci. yeah sure think about it he got hurt last year before last yeah he rehabbed this whole season i guess we'll suppose supposedly allegedly rehab something went wrong i don't know what he did but i'm just saying so he should be good he really should be good yeah and we gonna find out now yeah but you know but you know what your man is people think you could just like you could just take a whole year off and just pick right up where you left off. It don't work like that for a high level professional.

55:49No.

55:50Shannon Sharpe:You got to play. Yeah. I mean that's the only way to get yourself back in the rhythm is by playing. And not by yourself either. So Chad we try to list some teams that we think that AJ, Brandon Ayuk some of the big names receiver that will probably be available come free agency. The trade opened up, I think, March, probably like the first week in March is when the free agency period hit. The new year starts, and that's when you can start. But you know you have that – what do they call that period? Which one? Yeah, the tampering where you can actually have contact with the guys. Right. So that might be a situation, like I said, I think there are going to be some pretty good receivers on the market, And I think, you know,

56:46Shannon Sharpe:you got JSN. It's probably – well, you got JSN. I mean, think about it. You got JSN and you got Puka. And then you got DeBronco. I mean, every team, I mean, JSN is going to the Pro Bowl, first team All-Pro. Puka, Pro Bowl, first team All-Pro. Both of those guys unanimous selections to the All-Pro team. And Cortland Sutton. So three of the four teams got a Pro Bowl wide receiver on their roster.

57:17Shannon Sharpe:And all Tay did was lead the league in touchdown catches. He's the first guy to lead a league in touchdown catches with three different teams. Different teams. And he missed like three games.

57:31Shannon Sharpe:So clearly he still has some juice in the tank, and I expect him to be back next year.

57:42Shannon Sharpe:but Puka gonna get a monster contract yeah Puka gonna get a monster contract JSN gonna overlap that but this is only JSN his only second year he'll be next year next year I'm saying he gonna overlap that yeah yeah

57:59Shannon Sharpe:I agree oh the Jets need a wide receiver Man, now don't send nobody. Jazz needs a lot of things. Don't send nobody. Wide receiver, some offensive linemen. Don't do it. Some DBs. Don't do it. Yeah, the Jazz needs a lot. They need to get my boy Garrett Wilson out of there, man. Ocho, speaking of Puka, according to Mike Graffalo, John Harbaugh badly wanted the Ravens to draft Puka Nakua back in 2023. But the front office went against his wishes. If he got his way, Puka Nakua would have been a Raven. That was the guy that John Harbaugh wanted badly for the Ravens to draft, and they didn't. Puka was the last pick of the fifth round.

58:45The Ravens took instead Caillou Blue Kelly.

58:52Shannon Sharpe:I guess, how you say it? Caillou? Caillou? Blue Kelly. Cornerback. I like exactly where he's at. Yeah, I mean, see, look, you look at who the Ravens didn't have a coordinator like Sean McVay that has that kind of imagination. Just because somebody put up numbers over there, that don't mean he going to put those numbers up in Baltimore. But he's not because the offense is completely different. Exactly. Completely different offense. So it definitely, man, scheme is not even close to being the same. So obviously, I like where he's at. I do too. I mean, look, the one thing we know that Sean McVay can get to receive the ball.

59:35Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. You remember Cooper Cup, that Triple Crown season? Now you follow that up. And, I mean, just think about it, Ocho. You get 1 ,700 yards, and that's still not the best season. That's not the best receiving season in the franchise history. That's crazy. You're still 200 yards short. Yep. You're still 20, you know, almost 20 catches short. Mm-hmm. But, no, if y 'all think Puka would have done that in Baltimore, you're high. Because first of all, they didn't have an offensive coordinator that has the imagination and the creativity that Sean McVay has. No.

1:00:15So, no.

1:00:18Shannon Sharpe:No. I get it, you know. And it seems good now. Oh, he wanted him up. So, has there been anybody that he wanted they drafted that didn't pan out? Because everybody's willing to report the guys that they want that's panning out for somebody else. But they never report the guys that they wanted and they got that didn't pan out. Pan out. That's a good one.

1:00:52Shannon Sharpe:Man.

1:00:57Shannon Sharpe:They need to stop, man. They really need to stop this. And what you call him jumping on Keon Coleman like he the first pick in the draft. Like he the owner, Mr. Pagola. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm like, hold on. So now Keon Coleman was the reason y 'all lost this game. it went from Josh Allen turning them all over four times you having five turnovers to let hey let's you know what Keon Coleman low hanging fruit let's pluck his ass you notice they ain't say nothing about Josh now no now you pick you hey one thing you piss you piss that quarterback off if you want to nah you leave that alone but I don't know you didn't have to say anything about Keon Coleman yeah you did okay hey yes we we need him to play better.

1:01:45Shannon Sharpe:We brought him in to be a number one receiver. And that is the expectation level that we have for him. But to mention him and talk about, Oh, uh, coach, uh, Brandon didn't want him. We didn't want, that was the coaching decision. That's unnecessary. Totally unnecessary. Unnecessary. I'm trying to pile on Chicago's Ben Johnson was asked about building off the season. Oh, take a listen to his answer. Yeah. So you guys are going to be able to build off this and that they're, There is no building off of this. We go back to square one. We're back at the bottom again. And that's that's really all 32 teams.

1:02:20If you feel otherwise, you're probably missing the missing the big picture. You know, we're back at we got to start from scratch. We got to start from the fundamentals. You know, a lot of guys talked about how difficult this training camp was. I didn't feel like it was anything out of my ordinary. They know what the expectation is. We they know what the process is that we believe in as a coaching staff. And so I think more than anything else, they're going to know what they're getting themselves into. And yet we got to dig a little bit deeper. We got to work a little bit harder. We got to give a little bit more if we want to take this thing over the top.

1:02:55I mean, it's no different. You're trying to lose weight. You're trying to lose 50 pounds. The first 30 is the easiest 30. You know, the last 20, that's the hard. That's the hard part. And so we did a nice job this year, but it's not enough. We got to do more. I like what he said.

1:03:13Shannon Sharpe:I love what he said. I want to play for Ben Johnson now. My new favorite coach is Ben Johnson. Everything he said. But the one thing I like that he said is he told we not building off nothing. We starting from scratch. Yeah, build off what? Yeah, we starting from scratch. We got the biggest thing all the way back up again. I like it. That house don't stay up that you built last year. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And you start ground zero. A new foundation. Yes, absolutely. but now you see why they why they've had some success this year you know just i see why yes he his thought process that's why he talks to his team yeah most definitely most definitely oh there's something we can build off of yeah build off what what hey the bear's in good hands for the next 10 15 years man i i totally agree oh joe i didn't build off nothing i had to start all back over guess what oh joe every year because that's what i did the year before the training ain't got nothing to do with what I'm going to do to training this year.

1:04:13Shannon Sharpe:At all. If that was the case, I could just sit my ass in the house and go, hey, and just show up to the cat. Hey, because I already built off that training. No, I had to start a new foundation again. Yeah. Hey, listen. Start building right back up. Okay, you start out gradually and just build up. Speaking of track and field, congratulations to sitting in McLaughlin Verone. She's expecting a child, her and her husband. Expecting a child this year. Okay, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats. Hey, and Shelly had Mommy Rocket. If she came back and won world titles and can win a gold medal, Sydney could do it.

1:04:48Shannon Sharpe:Because I think, what, Sydney's 26? I think she's 26, have the baby this year. She got 27, and she got 28 for the Olympics. We good. Mm-hmm. But y 'all better be glad.

1:05:05Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all better be glad. because she was about, hey, Paulino and what's the lady from Buran? Nasser? Yeah. Because ain't nobody else seeing her. No. Ain't nobody else seeing her. And they better be glad she left the hurdles because that was just like, it had just gotten, it wasn't even fair. Easy work, easy work. Yeah. but uh i love the way ben johnson think i love the way he talks that's that's kind of what mike that's how mike was uh that last year ain't got nothing to do with this year bring your ass back in better shape than you came in this year expect to work a little harder than what you worked last year because we want better we want better results that what we did last year won't get the job done this year.

1:05:57Shannon Sharpe:Teams get better. So I don't know why you think build off what? Nah, you start at the bottom of the mountain. Even if you end your season on top of the mountain, you don't get to stay there. It ain't like Wimbledon. You know, Wimbledon used to win. If you won Wimbledon way back when, you came back as a champ. Everybody else fought. You just played the final match and you win. If you win, you're the champ again. Nah, you start first round, second round, third round, quarter, Simmons and Files. No, that's how it's supposed to go. I love Ben Johnson. I love this thought process. Look. Yeah, Ben, my new guy.

1:06:36Shannon Sharpe:Ben, my new guy. I love the way. That's how I want my coach to talk. Don't be talking about, hey, we good or we going to build on something. Nah, we ain't finna build on nothing. At all. What we finna do is start all over again and build this back up. Ain't no building on. It's building back up. So, it's going to be very interesting. And they got pieces, you know, they got their quarterback.

1:07:10Shannon Sharpe:They got a good running game. They got two good tight ends in Loveland and Cole Komet. I know everybody's upset at DJ Moore right now, but DJ Moore and Roman Dunze, they got Zacchaeus. They got, look, offensive line is really good. Now maybe go get a defensive lineman that can add some pressure on the other side of sweat. Yeah, don't forget Luther Burton there. Yeah, no, no, no. Luther Burton, yeah, they got received. They covered on offense. They covered on the offensive side of football. They good on their offense, yeah. Jalen Johnson gets another year. You know, he came back, had that core muscle.

1:07:45Shannon Sharpe:So now he gets to work his way back in shape and get back on the field and get back to the level of playing that he's accustomed to playing at. But, yeah, they – Look, the one thing that Ben Johnson knows, NFC's not getting easier. Mm-mm. Oh, no. San Francisco doesn't have all those injuries, okay? Doesn't look like the Rams going anywhere. Doesn't look like Seattle's going anywhere. Mm-hmm. Atlanta got two guys up for defensive rookie of the year. B. John Drake London what are they going to do with Kyle Pitts? Are they going to bring him back? Quarterback situation Tampa be in the mix Carolina Carolina made the playoffs this year Detroit hired a new offensive coordinator Green Bay so the thing I think that Ben realizes that no you can't build off you got to start back up because these other teams are doing that.

1:08:51Shannon Sharpe:Getting better. Nobody picks up where they left off. Because if that's the case, well, damn, the team that makes it to the Super Bowl, that means Seattle automatically makes it back to the NFC championship game. No. That ain't happening. The Rams make it all the way back. So, damn, they picking up where they left off. Where'd that leave us?

1:09:14Shannon Sharpe:So, I'm excited for Chicago. So Chicago is definitely up and coming. Ochoa, it's time to play Play of Fade presented by PrizePix.

1:09:38Shannon Sharpe:Kayshawn Booty, more than 38 yards receiving. More? Yeah, more, of course. Remondre Stevenson, more than.5 rush or receiving touchdowns. Yeah, he'll have a touchdown. Yep. Sam Donald, more than 219, more than 220 yards passing. Yep. Puka Nakua,.5 rush or receiving touchdowns. So he'll have at least one touchdown tomorrow. Yeah. No, Sunday. Yep. Okay. So we're going more on everything. Yeah. Ain't no game tomorrow, huh? No. Yeah, both games Sunday. Look at this. $25 to win$262.50. Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right.

1:10:34Shannon Sharpe:All right, we're going to get out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. Hey.

1:10:50Shannon Sharpe:Kevin Orwell Jr. My question is when is Fellow Cinco coming back? It's hard to bring Fellow Cinco back because when football season's on we got so much going on. There's so much to talk about. And a lot of times we leave stuff on the cutting room floor. Hopefully we're able to get it because we're two hours in and we still have some stuff that we could have talked about. So we're going to bring that back when it slows down a little bit for us. Right now, you know, with the football season in full swing, we decided to, like, get away from Spello and dunk on up. But it's coming back. And don't forget about spoken word too now.

1:11:25Shannon Sharpe:Oh, and spoken word. And spoken word. Yeah, I got some good ones, yeah. Dr. Frank and L. Bellamy just checking on my guys to make sure y 'all are good. I may not have asked a question every night, but I'm here every night. Love y 'all. Thank you, Doc. We know you here. Hell, you've been here. You're like one of the first two or three to ever join us. So, Doc, we know we can count on you. And every time we've had a show in Atlanta or any time we're somewhere close by, Doc's showing up. She came to the very first show in Vegas. She was in Atlanta. She came to the New Orleans show. Doc, you coming to San Fran?

1:11:58Yes.

1:11:59Shannon Sharpe:Doc coming to San Fran. Appreciate that. We good, Doc. We good. OG underscore Thanos, are we sure CJ is the future for the Texans? that is the question they're going to have to that's the question Ocho because what you and I talked about we talked about we talked about this Monday no we talked about this Sunday night yeah well we're going to know though I mean you don't answer that question yet but they're going to know after the season that's coming up that's going to tell you I pick up that fifth year option he ball out now I ain't got no problem giving him that money yeah there you go that's it matter of fact they wouldn't have had no problem giving him that money if he took care of business this year towards the end of the season you you right you right the shine underscore shore what's up uh uh show what's up ocho what's something you believed in your life in your 20s that you know now was completely wrong about something that i believed in life that i was completely wrong about gee ooh that's a good one huh if I treat people good they'll treat me good

1:13:11Shannon Sharpe:lies

1:13:17damn

1:13:18Shannon Sharpe:and then I had to learn Ocho I treat you good you treat me bad then you become a stranger damn

1:13:29Shannon Sharpe:damn

1:13:34Shannon Sharpe:I mean what I gotta let you keep dumping on me before I realize it sometimes you realize it is too late but if you can catch it soon enough you catch it early you can get rid of it you gotta catch it early you know and that's a good question now you got now you got me thinking you got me thinking that's a great question i gotta come back to that i gotta i gotta think and that's a good one cory blessman oh i think stride was saying that he realized during the season that he was too busy trying to be superman and that he shouldn't have that because he had a great defense. That's how I took it. But he didn't have to be Superman.

1:14:23Shannon Sharpe:Hold on. I'm going to see something here.

1:14:47Shannon Sharpe:He passed for 212, 250, 169, 244, 187, 260, 203, 276, 79. He got hurt against the Broncos, so that's why he only passed for 79. 318 against San Francisco, 229, 244, 233, 204, 207, 188. Where the Superman at? I missed something. Corey, I missed something. Where are the Superman stats?

1:15:23Shannon Sharpe:Did I miss something, Ocho? Did you hear those stats I read off? Yeah, I heard them. I heard them. I heard them. I mean, he had one 300-yard game the whole season. One, two, three. He had three games in which he passed for 250 or more. So I'm trying to figure where the Superman – hold on. I'm just trying to figure where the Superman. One touchdown, four picks. One touchdown, one pick. One touchdown, zero picks. Two touchdowns, two picks. 1-0, 3-0, 1-0. Zero touchdowns, one interception. Against Denver, he got hurt early. San Fran, he was 2-1. Seattle, he was 1-1. Baltimore, he was 4-0. Tennessee, he was 2-0.

1:16:12Shannon Sharpe:Jacksonville, he was 1-2. Tampa, he was 1-0. LA he was 0-1. So where's Superman at? Corey, where's the Superman at? Corey.

1:16:39Shannon Sharpe:IDK cast chat. What do y 'all think about Trayvon Diggs getting cut by the Packers? I don't even know why they signed him. Why you signed him, Mocho? The man played what, one snap, two snaps? Yeah, I'm not sure why they brought him in. They brought him in for a playoff run, obviously. That didn't happen, so obviously they had no use for him. He probably wasn't going to be on the roster the following year anyway, so he's going to have himself a fresh start somewhere else. I'm not sure where he will be going, but he will be on someone's team.

1:17:13Shannon Sharpe:he got to prove himself Ocho he got to stay healthy and he have to realize I mean he was never a burner so the chance the risk that you took after those injuries that you had I don't know if you but it's hard Ocho because that's how he made his name that's who he is

1:17:36Shannon Sharpe:he's a thief but as you get old and get injured the pole can catch you, you can't run away yeah so it's hard Ocho when you play a certain style and that style requires athleticism that's why you see a guy like Brady can play at that age, that's why Phillip Rivers can be at home for five years and come back because why Ocho, he didn't rely on athleticism but now you gotta play with your mind That's all. As you get older, as your athleticism deteriorates, it becomes a chess match. But you need to have to be playing with your mind in the beginning. It's hard to die. You asking somebody to pick up a trait they didn't have to begin with.

1:18:20Yeah.

1:18:21Shannon Sharpe:Remember what did Samuel Johnson say? Almost every man will waste a part of his life trying to possess qualities he does not have in an attempt to gain applause for he cannot keep. So if he didn't play like that before, so now you're like, well, you know what? I'm going to use my mind. I ain't got my legs ain't what they used to be.

1:18:43Shannon Sharpe:That's like, Ocho, man, we need you to be a run-blocking wide receiver. Right. You're like, what? You mean a run-off wide receiver or a run-blocking wide receiver? You know, I get in there and block, man. Make it your ass out of here. T.S. CarWide Detail Service. Unks, thoughts on LeBron MLK shoe situation? I vaguely remember I think he had the shoe it was the color of the Lorraine Motel is that what they're talking about the one that was in Memphis right I think that's what it's about I think the Lorraine Motel I think the shoes are the color of the Lorraine Motel

1:19:21yeah yeah

1:19:32yeah

1:19:33Shannon Sharpe:probably should have left that one alone and it's okay leave it alone

1:19:46Shannon Sharpe:it's uh sometimes you might think you paying homage and that's not the way it's received. Just for me, I just think like, okay, just leave when it comes to Dr. King, just leave that alone.

1:20:03Shannon Sharpe:That's just my two cents. Yeah. Just leave it alone. Because I'm clearly, I mean, he wouldn't have done it if he didn't think he was paying homage to him or however you want to say it. He didn't think he was like honoring Dr. King. But I just think in a situation like that, just leave it alone. I'm sure they could have come up with a different color way.

1:20:29Shannon Sharpe:No, but the thing is, LeBron could have said, nah, I don't think I want to do that one.

1:20:35Shannon Sharpe:It's okay. Look, LeBron is very conscious. I believe he holds Dr. King in very, very high regard. But everybody doesn't look at it like that. You know, he was assassinated at the Lorraine Motel. You got a shoe that's the color of, and I think that's what it is. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. If I'm wrong, Chad, I apologize.

1:21:04Shannon Sharpe:But I think they turned that into a museum, didn't they? Didn't they turn the hotel? I think they turned the hotel into a...

1:21:15Shannon Sharpe:but I think I want to say the color of the hotel inside is the color of those shoes Ocho. I read it, you know, I got so much other stuff on my mind. So I, I'm not really paying that much attention to the wrong shoes, but I was thinking like, I just remember seeing the thing. Okay. Um, I don't, I don't think people are going to be happier about this. Right. Yes. I didn't even see it. Yeah.

1:21:48Shannon Sharpe:So, that's my thoughts on that. Can you give a shout-out to my brother Mo? He loves your cognac. Also, who's your early Super Bowl pick? Mo, thank you, guys. I appreciate that. And thanks for purchasing a bottle of Shea Ballaportier. I'm glad you like it. We believe we created a great product. It smooths, goes down really easy. you know we prefer if you drink it on the rocks but you can't add it as great as an old fashioned as great as a sidecar determination discipline dedication all the drinks that we've come up with that you can add to it but it's a great just right on the rocks early Super Bowl picks Broncos Seattle I would just get rid of Shay that Shay that's what's up Fucking Ocho, can you give a shout out to my happy birthday to my friend, Ebony?

1:22:41Shannon Sharpe:Happy birthday, Ebony. Happy birthday, Ebony. Ocho, you remember Ebony Magazine? Yeah, boy. Jet Beauty of the Week? Man, I had a thing up on my wall in Savannah State. For real? Yeah. Jet Beauty. You go back there, you know, Ocho, a lot of HBCU, HBCU, Texas Southern, Grambling. I'm like, oh, for real. I'm like, damn, I probably should have won the one of those. because we ain't got to have no beautiful. We had some of the Ocho. They might not have gotten into the magazine, but we had a couple. Yeah, Ebony and Jet Magazine was iconic back then. Yes, for sure. For sure. What happened to Essence?

1:23:22Remember Essence?

1:23:23Shannon Sharpe:I hear y 'all remember Essence. Yeah. Oh, man. Man, those were the days, man. Oh, yeah. Those were the days. Jet Magazine, Essence, and Ebony. Man. Damn. Good memories. Mm-mm. know the time boy you got me yeah boy yeah yeah look at the more Jet Beauty Jet Beauty of the week you start looking you still looking at her name her location where she's from yeah yeah yeah you know you try to find sometimes they have a profile and pull it together and start Jet again you know a little Facebook a little Facebook be right there and all that they had no damn Facebook back then man now they had something they have nothing they had that she went to howard or she went to hampton but she went to graham she went to southern hold on she was uh uh from la there was always something there hold on let me see let me see let me see hold on there was always something there

1:24:27Shannon Sharpe:oh they oh they say uh uh jet still digitally no i don't want no digital i wanted a paper i feel that little that little old book about this big right here like being my head right here oh it's about that big right there i would i would have

1:24:43okay mental health dance okay yeah yeah they they still have it oh you got you got you pulled it up yeah i pulled it up okay well this thing go way back boy yeah i'm looking i'm looking at some of the old ones like 2000 you know i'm looking at one miss selena gilbert mental health therapist from philadelphia in her spare time she enjoys modeling acting dancing and listening to music

1:25:11Shannon Sharpe:okay damn yeah well i remember today man i remember i was in high school in college i said oh sure wish i could meet me one of them but i never get on you i tell that fact that uh that jet uh beauty of the jet center fold out yeah yeah yeah yeah put scotch tape on the back wow and hanging on that brick wall when you rip you ripped up the jet magazine that's all i wanted i ain't want to what the hell you ain't reading nothing else? Nah, not really. Not really. No. I ain't been told you on that. No. They going up on the wall. I had them all up on the wall.

1:25:58Shannon Sharpe:Man, Sean, why you got this up on your wall? Don't worry about it. It's my wall. Why you think I got it up there? I'm dreaming. Let me dream. Ian? Just throw back. Huh? I'm looking. a jet beauty of the week go way back to the 70s, huh? Ocho, I definitely remember when I was in high school. I got to high school in 83. Oh, okay. You're right. You're right. Yeah. I mean, that was the time we didn't get a little money. You know. We got to get a little money. Oh, you know back then, Ocho, I don't know if they still have it. Like, they used to have magazines in the grocery store. Yeah. So, Granny would go shopping.

1:26:40Shannon Sharpe:Me and Spank, we go, hey, we go look at the magazine. Right.

1:26:48Shannon Sharpe:And then they put aside, please do not read magazines unless you pay for it. Man, get out of here. The hell?

1:26:59Shannon Sharpe:The hell? Read this. Then they came out with a, I got a hold of a, GQ Yeah And DuPont Registry Okay And you got a little older College Hold on Hold on You remember Remember Smooth Magazine Yeah Remember Smooth Yeah And King Oh I remember King Okay Yeah Yeah I remember King Actually Actually No Don't leave that alone Yeah Don't do it I might have dated Somebody in King magazine who are who hey tell me who you dating who you dating huh no shade well hell would he well now i know i know you were but go ahead tell me you were dating though huh okay how about this tell me what year i don't remember what's up what's up what's that i know what you're trying to do you try to put two or two together the goat 2022 who do you think the browns could get for their head coach with candidates gone and others turning them down man don't nobody want to go there think about it we think they can get everybody turn them down mike mcdaniels i'd rather go be an offensive coordinator than your head coach nah man man anybody want to take that job man everybody talking about vita guerrera i remember vita oh yeah i've been saying that you see it in the magazine.

1:28:31Yeah, okay. Okay. Hey, was the girl you dated, was she a car company? Like Ford? Man, go ahead on Ocho. I'm just asking. You know I drove a Ford.

1:28:46Shannon Sharpe:Man, look here. Alex Stacy, Patriots with Mike Brable again from the Titans was there. AJ should go there from the Eagles, from an Eagles fan.

1:29:01No, because Mike Grable going to run the football.

1:29:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He ain't throwing the ball all over the damn field. They throw it, but not like that. No, hell no.

1:29:16Shannon Sharpe:And you got to have balance. Look at the team. Seattle, run it. Rams with Kyron William, run it. Ramondre Stevens and Henderson, run it. the Broncos try to run it. They just got J.K. Dobbins is back. But three of the four teams that's in the final four, Ocho, they run the football. Yeah. And they throw it, but they run it. You gotta have balance. J.all underscore 912. What's up, 912? What's up, y 'all? My family from Baxley. Okay, Applin County. I grew up in Savannah on Waters Avenue. I know exactly what that is. I first love how to drive on a dirt road in Glenville, Georgia when I was 12. That's what we talk about 912 to Gville.

1:30:03Shannon Sharpe:He grew up in Baxley. That's where we used to take tobacco. We would crop tobacco. They had where we would take the cured tobacco. We'd take it over there and we'd sell it. My grandfather did that and then we worked for the Tatums. That's where we'd always take it. And I remember Ocho, me, my brother and cousins, we would ride on the back of the truck. They had this big old, like a big old truck with sides on it. And we'd be on top of it. man they throw everybody in jail they found they for the kids uh uh you let your kids do that now ride the back of the truck yeah on top of tobacco okay so yeah it was a big old it was you know sheets of tobacco yeah but appreciate that jay uh it sure will not never mind superman cj couldn't even be blank man shaking my head come on man Kevin Boatnight how y 'all fellas doing tonight love what y 'all do every night keep the grind goats Kev we doing good bro we doing good God is good life is good everybody's healthy the kids are healthy all is well yep so cannot complain I got my sis here with me so we good

1:31:23Shannon Sharpe:well she need to stop eating all these damn sweets though getting the sweets out my damn house bad eating cupcake donuts every time i turn around here comes somebody dropping something i'm like who dropping this stuff off she going to the door shelly shelly ordered this no you told shelly to order this ain't Shelly just ordered food.

1:31:51Shannon Sharpe:Chipotle. I had a taste for this. What? Outback. The Red Georgian. You got carrot cake. She got all kind of stuff. And she don't eat it all at once. I bought my sister a sandwich. I bought her a sandwich on Friday. Well, I just finished my sandwich on Monday. So she'd eat a quarter of it at a time. So each day she eat a quarter of a sandwich. So she'll eat the sandwich and she'll cut it up in quarters. Right. She'll eat a quarter each day. Tell me, I don't know how you eat the whole thing. That was the whole purpose of the sandwich, to eat it all at once. That must have been a big sandwich, huh?

1:32:31It's that egg drop from Bulldoggy's. Oh, yeah, I don't know what that is.

1:32:35Shannon Sharpe:If you live in Vegas, you know what Bulldoggy's is. They got an egg drop, Ocho. Yeah. You get some egg. The eggs are real fluffy. It comes with bacon, sausage. You can get it smothered. It comes with French toast bread. Lord, have mercy.

1:32:59Shannon Sharpe:Joe 10 1984. Can't wait for the Packers to play the Cowgirls again. Everyone will be tuned in so we can put belt in the ass again. Go Pack Go. Rashad Kadeem Hickson. Unk Ocho. Love the show. MVP Stafford or May? I took Stafford. Stafford. Mike, Mike, what's up, Uncle Ocho? Have y 'all applied for any head coaching jobs? No. Could both help teams. You both could help teams. Maybe coach the same team. I don't want to coach. Ocho said he want to coach, but he don't because when you coach, you only tie it down to one job, so he can't have 35 jobs. I just want to be the president of football operations that's all okay president of football operations A1TWIN for the upcoming live show will you be there will y 'all be doing meet and greet before the show after the show not before after Brian's brain says just received my new nightcap sweater had no idea it was made by American Apparel in Los Angeles Love it.

1:34:13Shannon Sharpe:Thanks. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Yep. That's where it's made by. Alex Sippos. What do you think about Sean Payton? Pretty much guarantee a win versus the Pats. Had no choice. I love him trying to instill confidence in Stidham. Say we believe in you. This team believes in you. And we're going to win. So.

1:34:40Shannon Sharpe:That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. We want to thank Dana White and we want to thank Rashid Shahid for joining us. Dana was talking about the UFC matchup this Saturday at T-Mobile with Gaethje and Patty DiBatti. Black Beast against Acosta will also be there. So, thank you, Dana. Thank you, Rashid Shahid for joining us also and good luck. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support.

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1:35:53Shannon Sharpe:That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February the 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. Bay Area, come on out. Show love to Uncanocco and Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Again, thanks Dana White. Again, thanks wide receiver Rashid Shahid for joining us. That concludes this episode. We're off tomorrow night, but we'll see you. We're off tomorrow. Okay, we're off tomorrow and Saturday. Two nights off. Damn! I don't know what's going on. What kind of operation y 'all running? Wait, today Friday, ain't it? Today Thursday.

1:36:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that's crazy. Hell, if I knew that, I'd have been home. I'd have went to the ATL. you are home where you at I'm in Vegas oh my bad I need to get home at some point in time when you go to the A let me know you gonna come down there yeah we can go to Magic City I'm still waiting to try the damn wings come on Ocho man why we just can't go get something to eat and just chill what we going to Atlanta for I'm going to chill we gonna chill at Magic City and get some damn wings nah

1:37:07Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all see what I'm saying? Y 'all see what I'm saying, Chad? Hey, man, listen. Every time, every time I try to get out, that man pull me back in. I'm just trying to live, man. I'm just trying to live. Ocho, I'm trying to live. Okay, well, you're not living. You alive, but you're not living. Okay, Ocho. We need to experience life. Okay. Yeah. I'll make sure I don't let you know when I go to Atlanta. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. We're on Thursday and Friday and Saturday. We'll see you Sunday after the Rams, Seahawks.

1:37:45Shannon Sharpe:Somebody, two teams, and then there'll be two. They're four now, but then there'll be two. I'm up. He's Ocho.

1:38:13Thank you.

1:38:44We'll see you next time.

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