In short
The episode is a sports talk segment mixing NBA offseason rules talk, playoff game analysis, and debate about all-time player rankings. Topic 1: Shams reports new NBA anti-tanking rules starting with a 3-2-1 lottery structure in 2027, expanding to 16 teams.
Key claims
odds are flattened for mid-bad teams; bottom teams in the relegation zone get fewer lottery balls; playing teams get small chances; no back-to-back No. 1 picks; no three straight top-five picks; tanking yields “less reward.”
Notable examples
the hosts argue the rule would have prevented past top-pick streaks (they cite “Wimby, Castle, and Harper”). Topic 2: OKC vs Phoenix playoff discussion. Guests/players mentioned: Shea Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA) and Dylan Brooks; stats cited include Booker 24/8, Gillespie 20/7, Brooks 23/10, Jalen Green 23. Key claim: OKC’s defense and shot-making plus Hardenstein/Holmgren chemistry are decisive. Topic 3: USA Today top 25 all-time players debate. Key claim: Kareem is underrated at No. 5; Akeem Olajuwon is missing; Tim Duncan also gets criticized.
Notable examples
Jordan No.1, LeBron No.2, Kobe No.3, Steph No.4, Kareem No.5.
Guests
no named podcast guests appear; it’s host banter (Zach, Joe, Ocho/Uncle Ocho).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOShams' Anti-Tanking Reform Disclosed
2:54 to 4:03
Discussion on the new NBA anti-tanking reform and its implications.
“Brokered services by Open to the Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA and SIPC.”
Consequences of Tanking in the NBA
4:03 to 6:01
Exploration of the consequences of tanking and potential changes in team strategies.
“It sounds like some fishy stuff going on with these ping pong balls.”
Draft Predictions and Player Analysis
6:01 to 8:27
Analysis of potential draft picks and their impact on teams' futures.
“I just want my house to get a top four pick.”
Shea Gilgeous-Alexander's Impact
8:27 to 12:00
Discussion on Shea Gilgeous-Alexander's performance and future prospects.
“I'm with you on that Man, Shea Dirty, Shea Gilgis changed Dylan Brooks' jersey to, you know, he wears the number three.”
Clippers' Draft Picks Impact on Team Strategy
14:01 to 16:49
Discussion on the significance of draft picks and team development.
“The problem is Ocho, is that not only did they but they took everything.”
Phoenix Suns' Performance Analysis
16:50 to 19:09
Analysis of the Phoenix Suns' recent games and player performances.
“I thought Portland can't play excuse me the Suns can't play any better than what they played guys what they have three four guys in double figures 20 plus points and they still got crushed by 12 Let that sink in.”
Shea and OKC's Rising Talent
19:10 to 20:21
Exploration of Shea Gilgeous-Alexander and OKC's player dynamics.
“I just think they got a great combination of players who complement one another, especially the guys coming off the bench.”
Evaluating Player Performance and Team Strategies
24:00 to 28:00
Discussion on player performance, trades, and team dynamics.
“swept in the first round, missed the playoffs, swept again.”
Playoff Performance Analysis
28:00 to 30:00
A discussion on the playoff performances of various basketball players and teams.
“I mean, as an all-star, I just knew it was going to click for it.”
Player Productivity and Expectations
30:00 to 35:10
Analyzing player productivity and the expectations for key players in crucial playoff games.
“He got to try to find a way to put his stamp on this game, man, these last two games that they got.”
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Role Players and Their Impact
35:10 to 37:10
The importance of role players stepping up during playoff games and their contributions.
“I'm talking about with the intent to make something happen ASAP.”
USA Today's Top 25 Basketball Players
40:09 to 42:00
Reviewing and debating the USA Today's ranking of the greatest basketball players of all time.
“Complete disclosures available at public.com slash disclosures.”
Debating Kareem's Legacy
42:00 to 44:31
Explore the controversial ranking of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in NBA history.
“Kareem ain't the fifth greatest player to ever play in the NBA.”
The Olajuwon vs. Robinson Debate
44:31 to 46:54
Discussion about the omissions in the USA Today basketball list, focusing on Akeem Olajuwon.
“Ain't no way I'm taking David Robinson over Akeem Olajuwon.”
Tim Duncan's Underappreciated Skills
46:54 to 48:54
Analyzing Tim Duncan's career and his reputation in the basketball community.
“Kenyon was the last one, and I think Kenyon did it in 2000.”
Evolution of Basketball Skills
48:54 to 55:01
A discussion on how basketball skills and player development have evolved over the years.
“Someone's missed, and you laughing at somebody.”
The Importance of Controversial Lists
55:01 to 56:01
Understanding why controversial rankings spark debate and attention.
“But only players in the era don't feel like the players can supersede what they did.”
Debating Player Rankings
56:01 to 56:36
Discussion about controversial player rankings in basketball.
“because if we get it close to right, you're not going to talk about it.”
Transcript
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3:08Shannon Sharpe:Check this out, Joe. Shams has disclosed the new anti-tanking reform. The new NBA 3-2-1 lottery from 2027. lottery expands to 16 teams. What was it? 15? 14. Okay, it expands to 16 teams. Flatten the odds. Mid-bad teams get more chances than worse teams. Bottom three in relegation zone, fewer lottery balls penalize. Playing teams also get small lottery chances. No back-to-back number one picks. So even if you get it, you can't get it. Wow. Damn. No three straight top five picks. League can punish tanking, drop odds, drop position, trials run through 2029. Bottom line, tanking equals less reward.
4:06Shannon Sharpe:Winning equals more important. It sounds like some fishy stuff going on with these ping pong balls. How you going to dictate who going to, you know. Hey, Joe, they always been dictating, Joe. He always been dictating behind them closed doors, Joe. Don't let it fool you tonight. There's some fool gazing that's going on with our list now, Uncle Ocho. I'll tell you that. You know, you said no three years in a row top five picks. No team will be able to win three consecutive top five picks. It would have prevented Wimby, Castle, and Harper. Pistons, Cade, Ivy, Unsure, Holland, Cavs, Mobley, Garland, Okuru.
4:43Shannon Sharpe:Rockets, Green, Smith, Thompson, and Reed. Wow. Wow. Yeah, now having guys have surgery for a cough. Utah, you think you're slick.
5:02Dang. Hey, they trying to put some BS in the game now, boy.
5:08Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Man, Joe, they know good where Utah got Triple J having surgery. Man had a big grown toenail. Missed the rest of the season. Hey, and Utah finna get a top three pick, too, if they don't get the number one pick. Watch what I tell you. Yeah, you know they gonna take DeBonza? You already know it. If a team in the lottery and they got a top, what happened? When Chicago had it within a lot, what'd they get? D-Rose. When LeBron James was in Cleveland, what'd they get? They number one pick. AJ DeBonza played in Utah. Oh, high school and college. That's crazy.
5:50Hey, listen, it's not a coincidence. Utah gonna get the number one pick, man. Why? The game is the game. I just want my house to get a top four pick. Yo, who?
6:07Shannon Sharpe:Who y 'all taking, Joe? If they get a top four pick, I want to see the Hawks take Caleb from North Carolina. North Carolina? Yes, sir. What if they get three pick and they take Boone? What if they get the number two pick? You do realize if they get the number one pick and they take the Bons, somebody got to go. What you mean somebody got to go? They're not finna keep CJ, Dyson Daniels, Jaylen. Richie, the number one pick. Yeah, they're not finna keep all of them. Yeah, somebody gon' go. But I think if they get the number two pick, yeah man, I ain't gon' lie to you. I'm gon' take... Oh Joe, the mock draft got y 'all taking Acuff at seven.
6:58If we at seven? I can see that at seven. That's why I say I hope they get like a top three pick. Because a top three pick, we need some help up under that goal, man. Well, y 'all better take what you call it, man. You better take Cam Boozer. I like Boozer, man. I really do. But I think Caleb Sealing is a little higher than his.
7:21Shannon Sharpe:Boozer is like his dad. And I don't know if that guy needs to be able to consistently be able to shoot the three and knock him down at somewhere between 35 % and 38%. He got that kind of range on the joke. Yeah, I think he can shoot the three. He can score. But from a defensive standpoint, I think Caleb going to be better defensively, like, you know, double-double, rebounder, shot blocker. And I think offensively he just got more in his toolbox if I'm just keeping it 100. Yeah. Yeah. Cam Boozer is more of an 80s, 90s four. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. he got a nice handle he got a nice jumper he can score he play hard and he's been a winner pretty much his whole life so he gonna go top three for sure three four but I think it's gonna be Devonza Peterson and probably either Wilson or Cam Boozer I think that's gonna be your top four picks me personally I'm with you on that I'm with you on that Man, Shea Dirty, Shea Gilgis changed Dylan Brooks' jersey to, you know, he wears the number three.
8:40Shannon Sharpe:What you mean? Look at what he got on the back of his jersey. Look at the name. Hold on, listen. He really posted that for me? Oh, man, come on. And he posted, everybody wants to be villainous until the brooms come out. And then the dust settles and you realize who the villain is. I ain't do his countrymen like that. Hey, hey, that's his man's too. Hey. Yeah. Hey, that boy's special, man. Oh, he gave number one. I'm keeping real with John. He's special, bro. I got him winning MVP again this year. I know they ain't announced it yet. I don't know what the hell he waiting on. Dillard Brooks responded, sounds like a ghost rider, the villain.
9:27Shannon Sharpe:Go to the bathroom record. Go ahead, Ocho. Hey, Joe, I had to go check myself. You know how people make stuff up, man, you know, with AI and all that stuff. Yeah. His last post, if you scroll through about the fifth post, he really put that. Yeah. Nah, nah, nah. You know what? I think that's why everybody love him. Obviously, his aura, but, you know, the way he carries himself, Ocho, I think he's the ultimate competitor. And you know him and Dylan Brooks play on the same international team. So they got history. But I think for Shea, I mean, he just got too much, bro. He got too much in his bag, dog.
10:09Yeah. I'm talking about he had the Phoenix Suns at his mercy the entire series. I mean, they went out their second best player. I thought Chick has stepped up and played great. Right. But Shea, bro, he just on a different level, dog. He just on a different level. I mean, he's been this way, obviously, the past, what, two, damn near, about three seasons. And, again, I continue to ask you on the same thing over and over and over. Most of the time when it comes to players that's playing like this, especially at the level he's playing at, you could already see it early. You could see flashes of brilliance early in certain players.
10:43So, still, for the life of me, I still can't understand how and why the Clippers did what they did. I mean, how did you not see the future? How could you not see this person? You can't tell me, well, he didn't look anything like this when it was the Clippers. But all of a sudden, he gets the goddamn OKC, and he got them all world. Well, that makes no sense. When you saw Kobe Bryant coming out of high school, Kobe Bryant looked like, you know what, he's going to be one of the best in the world. Ain't like goddamn Shea all of a sudden hit a goddamn switch and turn into what he turned in. They had to have seen that.
11:16I think they knew he had talent, Ocho, but they didn't see this. You know, considering the fact that, okay, boom, we're going to get Kawhi Leonard bringing him home. Now, he has some demands that we have to meet, and he wanted Paul George. Doc Rivers, I seen Doc Rivers do an interview. He was a head coach. I think he was a head coach at the time, and he said he didn't want to trade Shea. He didn't. He said he's seen it. He's seen how special he was, and he had a hard time, you know, really wanting to trade Shea. He really didn't want to do it. But I know for sure, bro. They didn't see this. You know, I mean, Ocho, he's averaging 30 points over the past three seasons, bro.
11:58And don't look like he going to taper down no time soon.
12:01Shannon Sharpe:The problem that you ran into is that you keep Shea, and if Kawhi, LeBron, and AD are in LA, you think the Clippers are going to supplant them, Ocho? You think they're going to win the Tampa championship with that three? if Kawhi is in LA with the Lakers yeah yeah they gonna win exactly so he says if you don't get me Paul George I'm gonna sign with the Lakers yeah yeah uh Joe Burr is a free agent yeah I'll sign with I'll sign back with you Cincinnati but if you don't get me Chase if you don't resign Chase I'm leaving. What do you think they're going to do? Even if JSN and Puka are performing, let's just say, well, we really want to take Puka and Nakua.
12:49Shannon Sharpe:We want to draft JSN. What you think they're going to do, Ocho? Yeah, you're right. So, he said, if you don't give me Paul George, I'm going to sign with the Lakers. Now, mind you, before they went to the Intuit, they're already the second They're already second-class citizens. Now you're already in the basement. You Igor. You got LeBron. You got Kawhi. You got Anthony Davis. Yeah. You got Shea. It ain't going to work. L.A. is about winners. See, that's why the Clippers really – it's hard for the Clippers to draw. The Lakers – the L.A. You know it's showing. It's ostentatious. What do they like, Ocho?
13:38Shannon Sharpe:They like winners. They like going to they like sitting the Laker game and sitting courtside so when you paying, you see me. They like going to red carpets. They like eating. That's why they don't get the Rams. I can't see who's sitting at the Rams game Ocho. I need to be front and center. They didn't really have a choice. The problem is Ocho, is that not only did they but they took everything. Look at what they were able to get with those draft picks that they got from the Clippers. That's what killed them. You're good on the entire roster. And guess what? They still get the Clippers picked this year, and the Clippers are in the lottery.
14:33It's crazy. While y 'all talking, they could be a top five pick. yes and they got him I just think the Clippers they didn't have time to wait on his development
14:48Shannon Sharpe:no not when you get a guy like that nah nah if you don't get Kawhi you can wait on his development but when you get a veteran presence same thing with LeBron what they do they waited a year and then Ingram left and then what because I got to have AD I got to win. I got this guy right now. How many years he got? I don't know. But he went to win now mode. Win now mode don't give you a chance to develop. What do the Rams say, Ocho? F them picks. Yeah, F them picks. Hey. And when you think about it, Kawhi had just came out winning a championship in Toronto and he left. And he left. So if I can go get a champion who just come off winning the NBA title, MVP.
15:40Finals MVP. Yeah. Man, I'm going to do everything he has. Yeah, I got you. No problem. Paul George, okay, let me hit up OKC. Yeah, I got you. I got you.
15:51Shannon Sharpe:Now remember, Russ was already gone. Remember? Yeah. So now, Paul don't want to be there. Hey, get me up out of here too. Yeah. They got all them picks. So many picks. That's what killed them. It was the picks that they gave up. Yes, Shea, but look at the picks that they got, and they're still getting picks. Hey, if they get a top five pick, I know they're going to get a lottery pick, but if they get a top five, oh, my God. It's going to be ugly. It's already ugly now. and they got more they got more picks they still got more picks and second round picks
16:47Shannon Sharpe:it's but look I thought Portland can't play excuse me the Suns can't play any better than what they played guys what they have three four guys in double figures 20 plus points and they still got crushed by 12 Let that sink in. Dylan Brooks played out of his mind. Even Book had a phenomenal game. Who was it? Gillespie, give me the underscore yesterday from Phoenix and the OKC Thunder.
17:19Yeah, Gillespie had 20, 7 for 12. Booker, 24, 8 for 16. Dylan Brooks had 23, 10 for 19. Jalen Green, 23. He was 10 for 25. they scored enough points
17:34Shannon Sharpe:but they can't stop them they ain't got no defensive presence they gave up 131 points yes let that sink in they got 4 guys Joe with 20 plus points they shot 53 % from the floor boy they was on fire and they didn't get out rebounding they only got out rebounding by 6 they normally get out rebounding by double figures yeah but guess what But you shot 53 % from the floor, you let them shoot 54 % from the floor. You shot 36 % from the three, you let them shoot 50 % from the three.
18:13Shannon Sharpe:And you had four guys, but they had a guy with 22, a guy with 31, a guy with 24, and a guy with 18. And then they came off the bench with two guys that had double figures. Yeah. Okay, see, the chemistry that Hardenstein and Holmgren has. You see that? Oh, my God. Shea going to be Shea. But if you get these two dudes playing like this here, they robbing each other big. Man, it's going to be hell. Remember, we got on them. We got on OKC last year because they took Hartenstein out the lineup. Yes. Damn, why are you taking two bigs out? I think they play so great off each other because they're both two totally different players.
18:53They got two totally – you know what I'm saying? They're not the same. Hardenstein's a hustle guy, you know, who can pass, play make. Obviously, you know, he got a nice touch around the basket. And then you got home reach who can do a little bit of everything. Obviously, shot blocking, three-point shooting, you know, go off the dribble a little bit. I just think they got a great combination of players who complement one another, especially the guys coming off the bench. You know, them guys, Wallace and Caruso and Wiggins, these guys come. Isaiah Joe, these guys come off the bench getting to it, man.
19:24Shannon Sharpe:Yep. And if you look, think about it, Hartenstein, 5-7, 8-9. See, the problem is they kill you from the free throw line. Yeah. They were plus 14 over Phoenix.
19:41They got them kind of guys, though, man. She ain't no volume three-point shooter. He'll shoot a couple. But most of his damage is coming in the mid post, middies, and at the cup. So he, they always talk about the foul baiting. That's just how he plays, bro. He's just a hard player to guard. He always got them dudes in the huckle buck out there. Hey.
20:05Shannon Sharpe:Joe, we got to have a conversation at some point in time about Book now. What happened? What happened? We'll have to have a conversation, Joe. You know what that conversation is. And I don't even. They went eight and one in the bubble. They said, okay. And they didn't make the playoffs. They lost the NBA finals. Copenhagen Spit Free packs American-grown tobacco into pouches. Made for when your elbow's deep in an engine block. Or masked up, torching deep cuts into stubborn pipes. Or helmets on, riding deep into backcountry. When there's no time or space to spit, grab Copenhagen Spit Free Pouches.
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23:56Shannon Sharpe:The next year, second round, eliminated the second round, swept in the first round, missed the playoffs, swept again. What are we going to do? I think what he got 263 million coming over the next four years. Oh, that's nasty. Well, at some point in time, we got to have a healthy discussion. What are we going to do, Joe? Look, I ain't even mad at the discussion we got to have because it's a team out there who I wouldn't mind seeing them go to. And they're in the Eastern Conference. They could use him right about now. You're talking about Detroit? Yes. They could use them all. I like Duncan Robinson, but you need a two-guard who can get money too with Cade.
24:38You know, I mean. Oh, he have a port guard?
24:41Shannon Sharpe:Remember what he was, how he was with Chris Paul? Yeah. Hey, this will be a deadly combination in the Eastern Conference. I don't think he leaves, though. You don't? Nah, he going to get out of there. Don't overstay your welcome. Especially when you start hearing the conversations that need to be had and you know you by yourself. He's done all he can, huh? So before those conversations start, you got to know you got to get up out of there.
25:14Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if Ishba is going to move him. Because this thing is about superstars. You got to have him, Joe. Yeah. They just paid him too. But he's the closest thing. He's the resonating face. You got rid of Chris Paul. You got rid of KD. He's it. Hey, man, you never know, man. Hey, we've seen stranger things happen now. True. Yeah. We've seen stranger things happen. And a guy like that. You think they get up off him this year? I think it's possible because he'll be a high-value guy right now. Oh, yeah, for sure. You could get a lot. How old is Book? 27? 28? How old is Devin Booker? 27, 28?
26:06Shannon Sharpe:29. Yeah. But hold on. Didn't they just pay him that money, that big contract? He just – He got two – if I'm not mistaken, I think I read today he got 263 over the next four years coming. The last year he got like 85 million coming. Detroit needs scoring, man. They need some – Cade and Doreen. Them dudes need help, bro. Don't mention Doreen. We're going to get to him in a minute. Don't you mention his name. Don't you mention his name, Joe.
26:36That's what I'm saying. They need some scoring, huh? So I don't know. Phoenix could. They could. I mean, you know, I'm sure there'll be some teams calling.
26:48Shannon Sharpe:Jalen Durant, he might need to be in an assistive living facility because he been pooping and wetting the bed these last week. we gotta put the pins on him Joe Joe he's been awful he's been awful Joe ain't no way around it that man gonna want a max contract but y 'all tell me chat y 'all watching it y 'all look at the way this man played this game this series he's been terrible he's been getting outplayed no question he's been terrible yeah yeah he gonna have to figure it out huh you're going to have to figure it out well damn we about to get eliminated I wish he had figured it out before it's too late now he's going to run his ass up into his he's going to run up in there and tell me we want max we want max well hey if he make third team yay you're going to have to back the brink stroke up regardless
27:52Shannon Sharpe:man these guys here man I just don't know, Joe. I don't know. I just knew, oh, boy. I mean, as an all-star, I just knew it was going to click for it. And then when you look at their record, 60 wins, bro, you like. Yes. When you watch them in this playoff series, you like, damn, how the hell they win them 60 games. I don't know, especially with Cade absent. And you remember when Cade was absent, Joe, he was balling. Yeah. Yeah. There wasn't no pressure on them, though. You don't think it was no pressure? Wasn't no pressure, just playing free-flowing basketball. But they had other guys. I better go ahead and finish this off, Joe.
28:32Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. On top of it all, yeah. But they had other guys stepped up and played great, too, in K's absence. It wasn't just during. It wasn't just during. Joe, he ain't giving them nothing. Joe, the man was a double-double. but the man getting me eight and seven, playing 30. Joe, what am I supposed to do with that?
28:59I don't know. Hey, listen, they the number one seed down three, one, back against the wall. They gonna have to be a damn magician and pull a rabbit out the hat for this one.
29:15Shannon Sharpe:Man.
29:22because I say, listen, they done threw, they threw some other guys in off the bench now to see if they could, they threw some other guys in there off the bench, you know, try to see if they could get it going, but it's hard. Yeah, who going? I'm saying the Detroit Pistons, they played their bench, you know, trying to get some productivity from somebody off their bench, but.
29:45Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hey, bro. The Biles has been giving us great minutes. K doing what K does I think he's shooting a little bit too many threes but okay fine whatever it is but 12 and 8 Joe what was Jalen Durant doing the regular season give me a stat what is he 15, 16, 17 17 and 12, 17 and 10 let me see yeah 20 and 10 Joe what's the average right now in the postseason now this is what he gave me the post in the regular season Joe 20 and 10 okay
30:21he was a monster in the regular season yeah
30:28Shannon Sharpe:what's he averaging he probably not even averaging 10 points a game he had 12 yesterday what about them games he had 8 and 6 though
30:42Shannon Sharpe:he's averaging 10 points and 8 rebounds so half as many points and 2 field rebounds he played basketball like old people have sex not worth a damn they missing that productivity too bro do you know what those 10 points can do do you know what those two rebounds could actually do maybe they're on the offensive end maybe they're on the defensive end where they don't get a second chance at another basket yeah
31:13the one thing about it I know he ain't playing well this series, but he still got a chance, guys. He got to try to find a way to put his stamp on this game, man, these last two games that they got. Because you go home, you got game six at home.
31:35Shannon Sharpe:He's minus 11, Joe, in the series. Minus 11. He's minus 11. Minus 11. He about to put a stamp on it, postcard. Going to Cancun. Nah. That's the stamp he about to put. Hold on. The next game is in Detroit, right? It don't matter. Do you see the way he played? He played like some stir-fry in Detroit. Yeah, he got to pick it up on. I mean. Played like Curry in Orlando. You say what? Played like Curry in Orlando. Curry go. They need some help, bro. What's going to do with that? K need some help. I think Tobias has been giving him great productivity, too. He's been playing. You know, I know I got on him during the season, but he's been handling his end.
32:24They're going to need during the step up, bro. They're going to need him to play huge. Yeah. They got their postseason. They got to him, Joe.
32:32Shannon Sharpe:Bro, Paulo Bancaro shot 4 of 18. Baines was 7 of 18. Jalen Suggs was 1 of 13. 1 of 11 from the 3. Ben Carroll was 0-4 from the three. They shot 33%. They shot 26%. Again, Joe, guess what? 52 rebounds, 49 rebounds. So you have another 100-rebound game. Because why? Because both teams shot the ball like ish. Yeah. Yeah. And Thompson, he ain't no score like that or no shooter. Oh, Lord. Don't talk to Detroit. For Detroit, you know, he a Swiss Army knife. You know, he play hard defensively, but. Well, then what is that? What, Joe, what we using it for? He a Swiss Army knife. What we using it for? He got a guard, play defense.
33:22They need scoring, though, Ocho. They can't win these games in those mid-80s and 90 points a night. You can't win like that in the NBA, bro.
33:31Shannon Sharpe:That man has six points on eight shots.
33:36Shannon Sharpe:I might get you two points on nine shots I wonder why Hollins ain't getting no clock I like him I like his energy and effort he play with when he come up I don't know man not giving him anything he come in not giving him anything Jenkins we both like Jenkins but if you go back and study Jenkins' tape and look at it, he was getting those numbers when K was out. Yeah. Now that K's back, he out the ball. Can't catch no rhythm. It's tough. You playing them spot minutes. He ain't played but 13 minutes. That means you probably getting about four minutes here, three minutes there. Yeah. Hey, it's the playoffs, man.
34:25You got a short lease. If you don't jump out there on fire and try to make something happen,
34:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I got to get your ass out of there. I got to get your ass out of there. Joe, hey, that's why you got the sparks in your system. Because when the moon hit, you got to be ready to perform. Ready to go. When the coach put you in the game, you got to be ready to perform. You can't be ready to warm up an hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as you rub your neck. It's on. Boing, boing.
34:57Shannon Sharpe:That's what I'm talking about, Joe. Yeah, yeah. So when you get your opportunities, especially if you're a role player, Joe, you don't get the luxury as a starter to build momentum. You got to come in having it. Yeah, yeah. You got to come in with intent. I'm talking about with the intent to make something happen ASAP. That's what coaches be looking for, bro. Yeah. Yeah.
35:24Shannon Sharpe:Boy, they on life support. During the A, he got to go A. He got to go at old boy. Yeah, he do. He got to go at old boy. He should have been doing that. Man. Hey, that boy taking this hip person. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you about to have her, but she look better with me, disrespectfully. Just so you know. Yeah. And she happy. Yeah. No, I got to show you up, bro. Damn, they finna knock off this AC, finna knock off this 1C? Yes, yes, yes. Absolutely. Yes. Ain't no way they winning three games, Joe. Them people from Detroit, they ain't like, bro, they blue collar, bro. Hey, they don't play that.
36:20Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what kind of collar it is. They might have on T-shirts. They ain't got no collar, but they about to go home. Now, I got a winning game. See, you want to put something on it? Yeah. You know they play tomorrow. Yeah, a little high hunted. Okay. Jordan said there ain't enough sparks in the world to get them over the hump. Oh, man, come on, Jordan. You got to believe, bro. You sure? You sure? We believe. Joe, you got to hit the ground running, man. It's life or death. And Orlando came into this series wounded, too, boy. Yeah. They gave him life, though. They gave him life. Copenhagen Spit Free packs American-grown tobacco into pouches.
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40:43Shannon Sharpe:That first game. Joe Ocho, USA Today listed their top 25 greatest basketball players of all time. And here's the order. Michael Jordan is the number one spot. LeBron was two. Kobe was three. Steph was four. Kareem is five, Magic is six, Larry Bird is seven, Bill Russell is eight, Wilt Chamberlain is nine, Shaquille O 'Neal is ten. And then we go Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, Allen Iverson, Oscar Robinson, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Julius Irving, Moses Malone, Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Carl Malone, David Robinson, Isaiah Thomas, John Havlicek, George Mikan. The top two. Michael Jordan. LeBron James.
41:36Shannon Sharpe:Kobe Bryant. Steph Curry. Kareem. Magic. Bird. Russell. Chamberlain. O 'Neal. What you like? What you like? What you like? What you dislike?
41:52I don't know if I can really dispute any of that. I mean, because if you take something, If you're putting somebody else in, who the hell are you taking out?
42:01Shannon Sharpe:Kareem ain't the fifth greatest player to ever play in the NBA. He's just not. Not with six NBA championships. Not with six MVPs. He's the second all-time lead scorer. Not with the second most points, the third most rebounds. Ain't no way in hell. You say he need to be up higher. Hell yeah. Who are you taking out? I'm putting him in front of Kobe and Steph. Yeah.
42:28You know, they don't show the big man a lot of love, for real.
42:35Shannon Sharpe:All he has, Joe, was the most unstoppable shot ever created in basketball. That's all I know. Six MVPs. Do you believe there'll be another player to win six MVPs? Six MVPs. How many LeBron won? Three, four? Four. Four in a five-year span. Jordan got five. Russell has five. LeBron and Chamberlain both have four. Larry Bird has three. Magic Johnson has three. It's going to be hell against six, boy. Boy, that's what he has. Six. Six MVPs, six championships, two finals MVPs, the third most rebounds, and the second most points. Why you think he don't get the respect? Why you think he don't get that respect?
43:27Shannon Sharpe:Because Kareem was Kareem was ornery. He was a surly. And say his name for me. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Okay. That was not his God-given name. He spoke out against things at a time when that was very, very unpopular. Right. Kareem ain't play.
43:51Yeah. Kareem with Ali.
43:54Shannon Sharpe:At the Southern I was in Cleveland. And I think that was 67. There you go. Here go Jordan. Here, take this. He done caught it through the screen. Yeah, man, he done caught whatever Ocho got. No, you ain't doing nothing.
44:14Shannon Sharpe:Hold on.
44:19Shannon Sharpe:This is some bull jive. Without Akeem Olajuwon, I'm throwing the whole list away. I don't even want to discuss it no more. You better tell me they ain't got Akeem Olajuwon on this list? Oh, yeah, they tripping. Akeem Olajuwon ain't on the list.
44:38Man, call Pete Robinson.
44:41Shannon Sharpe:Who came up with the list, huh? USA Today? Let me make sure. Maybe I missed something. Ain't no way I'm taking David Robinson over Akeem Olajuwon. Ain't nobody taking David Robinson over Keem Olajuwon. I'm not so sure fans in San Antonio taking David Robinson over Keem Olajuwon. The dream? Come on now. Y 'all doing too much. Yeah, I don't know how. Y 'all getting the reaction that you wanted. Y 'all wanted to rage. Y 'all wanted to get some click makes, and you did it. I get it. That is some bull jive. Ain't no way David Robinson better than the Keem. No. Ain't no way. He was a hell of a talent.
45:21Shannon Sharpe:Yes. We're not debating that. Hell no. Damn. Hell, just to be on the list is a - Achieving in itself. You know what I'm talking about? Yes, sir.
45:39Shannon Sharpe:I would tell you a guy that don't get no damn credit. Who? Tim Duncan. Big fundamental. Tim Duncan don't get no credit, guys. That's because they say his gang was boring. I know. I don't either. He was a baller. He got it done, bro. Ever since he joined the Spurs, they probably never even missed the playoffs, maybe once, because he was hurt. I don't know if they missed it then. Yeah, he turned their franchise around. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about from a rookie. Yes. Yeah. He's a three-time finals MVP. A two-time league MVP. how many times all NBA how many times all defensive yeah he he level the best
46:40different time all NBA 15
46:42Shannon Sharpe:time all defensive team he did what he did he did three years in college came out his junior year no he came out he stayed the whole time The senior, oh, yeah, that's rough. It ain't going to happen no more. Kenyon Martin, he and Kenyon Martin are the last guys to be seniors and go number one overall. Kenyon was the last one, and I think Kenyon did it in 2000. Wow. You ain't getting that no more. Ain't no damn way. They ain't got Elijah one on the list. They got Tim Duncan. Let me go. They're getting me mad. They're getting me mad. I love, I love, I love Carvalho, I love all them guys. Man, they ain't better than Elijah Juan.
47:28Hey, that's what the list is there for. It's to piss you off.
47:31Shannon Sharpe:It is, it is. Cause I saw a list, hold on. They got the greatest songwriters. I think the New York Times, did you see the list about the New York Times? They ain't got no Stevie Wonder. You know what, I ain't finna get upset. Y 'all ain't finna make me send my soul to hell. But y 'all love some bull jives.
47:57Shannon Sharpe:A Kentucky man says, Giants kicker, Young Way, cool. The cool is the easy part. Is that the H-O have saved his life after the coup botched the field goal against the Patriots. Thoroughbred trainer, Mark, two Haker, says he laughed so hard at the myth that he triggered a violent seizure which sent him to the hospital. A CT scan then revealed a tennis ball sized tumor on his brain. Doctors removed the tumor to Haker reportedly has no long term damage. He says coup myth was a miracle because the seizure could have happened while he was driving or somewhere much more dangerous. That's crazy. That's a crazy story, especially for the fact that they found your seizure based on someone's mistake.
48:56Someone's missed, and you laughing at somebody. Oh, hey, that's crazy work. Damn. Young Ho Koo. Hey, Uncle, we were butchering his name, boy, when we first swatted. Young Ho Koo.
49:09Shannon Sharpe:See? You see? Young Ho Koo is Young Ho Koo. Oh, Young Ho Koo? Okay. Hold on. So the man was laughing so hard that he what, passed out or something? Yeah, it triggered a violent seizure. So he ended up having a seizure. They take him to the hospital, a CT scan revealed he's got a tennis ball sized tumor on his brain. Ooh, that's a good thing. That ain't nothing but a blessing that word.
49:43he saved a man life yeah he did he probably caught some Falcons fans
49:50Shannon Sharpe:so they damn life though missing all the damn field goals he missed that's why they got rid of him damn that's why they got rid of him that's why they got rid of him in Atlanta but to go back Joe ain't no way ain't no way Kareem Kareem can't get past three Kareem can't get past three he can't you got a good valid point he can't look everybody knows that I think LeBron is the GOAT and I think I've been very clear on this I think the three greatest players ever was Kareem Jordan and LeBron people go back and forth ain't no way kareem is the fifth greatest player all time not with all those awards not with it so what are you saying he got he went to 10 finals he won six he got six mvps he got finals mvps he's led the league in scoring he's led the league in rebounding he's a 19 time nba all-star he's probably how many times did kareem make all nba see I think the thing is Joe if we didn't see said player 15 time all NBA how many times all defensive 11 time if we don't see a player it's kind of like rappers if you didn't hear KRS1 if you didn't hear Rock Hill if you didn't hear those guys you didn't hear Big Daddy Kane it's hard for you to put them in place of guys that you currently hear absolutely He's a two time scoring champ, two time block champ.
51:36Shannon Sharpe:How many times re-time? Four time block champ, how many times rebound the champ? Oh. Damn. You gotta realize, Kareem, I mean Kareem has season 31 and 17. 30, 32 and 13. The whole season? Yes! Yeah. He's a bad boy now. You can make a case if you combine his high school, college, and NBA, he's the greatest player in the history of basketball, and it's not close. Nobody is close when you compare high school, college, and NBA. It's not close. Talking about from a winning standpoint. He lost two games in college. Yeah. Yeah, from a winning standpoint, you're right. It ain't close. It ain't close. He's a three-time champ.
52:26Shannon Sharpe:Freshman could not play when he came in. He's a three-time NCAA champ. He's a three-time player of the year. He's a three-time most outstanding player. He's a six-time NBA champ. He's a six-time MVP. He's a two-time finals MVP, a 15-time All-NBA, 11-time All-Defensive. Damn. What an unstoppable move. The most unstoppable move ever created in basketball. Tell me somebody got a move. I like Jordan Fadeaway. I like Dirk one-legged. I like Kevin Durant. I like LeBron turnaround. I like Dream, Akeem, Dream, Shake. But ain't nothing. There's no basketball shot ever created that can touch the sky hook.
53:11Shannon Sharpe:And you know how I know? How many, when Dirk did the one-leg step back, everybody do the one-leg step back. Yogi's do it. Durant does it. The turnaround, the Dream Shake, everybody does it. Elvin Hayes was the first one to do the turnaround. around. Dream Shake perfecting it. LeBron does it. Everybody. Tell me how many players you've seen throw the sky hook with regularity. And he wasn't throwing it from three to five feet. He was throwing it from 15 to 18. Hell, magic. His teammate was throwing it. And they call it the baby sky hook. Yeah. Yeah.
53:45Hey, you think Wimmy can get to that sky hook?
53:49Shannon Sharpe:Man, he gonna throw that ball over the damn top of the back. It's so damn tall.
53:59Yeah, he might be the only person who can get to that sky hook real time.
54:03Shannon Sharpe:But I think the thing is though, Joe, with any move, you gotta practice it. And it doesn't look anything. I mean, you people like, oh, the granny shot and all that other stuff. Rick Brad shot the percentage. Look at what Rick Brad shot from the free throw line shooting the granny shot. Damn. We like stuff that look good, Joe. If it look good, we'll do it. If it don't look good, I can't mess with it. That's why the players continue to get more skilled each and every era. You get more skill, more skill. And it's okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm okay with that, Joe. It's hard for eras to understand. The players are getting better.
54:44Shannon Sharpe:They know more. Yeah. They know more. They take – they're able to take – it's kind of like medicine. So you think the doctors in the 50s? are more skilled than what they are today? No, because the doctors know more. Yeah. They got better equipment. They got better medicine. Yeah. But only players in the era don't feel like the players can supersede what they did. Everybody else understand. Medicine is better. Every technology is better. You think the technology that they had in the 30s, 40s, and 50s, and 60s is comparable to what they had in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and currently now? No, son. No, you wouldn't think that.
55:24Shannon Sharpe:But I don't know why players refuse to give that up.
55:30Shannon Sharpe:They call evolution. Yeah. Yeah.
55:43Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you already said y 'all did what y 'all wanted to do.
55:50Shannon Sharpe:Yep. to get us. When they come out with the 50 greatest rappers or the 50 greatest R &B singers or the 50 greatest bands or the 50 greatest whatever. Yeah, but I got to throw you a curveball, Ocho, because if we get it close to right, you're not going to talk about it. Yeah, you can't. I need you to talk about it. It's got to start a debate. Yes! You got to throw a little controversy. Throw a little monkey wrench in there. Yeah. They ain't got Keem Olajuwon on this thing.
56:21They ain't even got, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they tripped.
56:23Shannon Sharpe:They ain't even on the list, Joe. And they got Bill Russell now? Yeah, they got Bill Russell in the, uh, uh, uh, Bill Russell is eight, is eight.
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