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21:19Shannon Sharpe:You know she ain't mean well. But I'm here now, I'm here, you here. Hey, we about what you do. Feet kicked up and everything. You know what I'm talking about? You see what I'm saying, don't you? You hear me talking about feet kicked up? Hey, damn, Joe. Do you see what I'm saying, Joe? You hear what I'm saying, don't you? Hey, he definitely number one, man. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, Joe, you not beating the allegations. Man, please. Man, please. I can't beat Unk, and I damn sure can't beat you. What you mean he can't beat Unk? Man, Unk 58, Joe. I ain't got, man, you see how your boy get up out of this chair, Joe?

21:50Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, damn. Hey, same thing. You know, there's some 58-year-olds out here. Uncle can't even move, man. So I ain't trying to hear all that. I know what's going on. See, you might can pull the wool over chat eyes, but, boy, I know. I know. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Oh, Joe, I got my eyes on you, too, boy. I know what's going on. Hey, Joe, I ain't doing nothing, Joe. You know, anything I say, Joe, I just be exaggerating, Joe. anything you know i you listen all my stuff be lies okay it'd be for content purposes okay yeah uh joe coming on i like joe who she like joe johnson i was like

22:38yeah man he came on i'm like okay baby said man y 'all need to bring joe back i was like well

22:45Shannon Sharpe:If he want to come back, he can come back. I'll be down. Now y 'all can't get rid of me. Here we are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now y 'all can't get rid of me. Now he full time. He's like, hey, man, I like football. I'm watching soccer, football. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News, reporting for America. Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?

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28:04Shannon Sharpe:But I'll always be appreciative and grateful for people that went to bat for me. Because I'll always, I'll forever be indebted and go to bat for them. So, all that other stuff y 'all talking and all that don't mean nothing. And finally, Jalen Brown says, on what it means to be a sixer. a strong city of being a tough-nosed city, so I'm looking forward to that because I don't want no special treatment. I don't want no handouts. I don't need no extra privilege. Not to say y 'all were going to give me that anyway, but, you know, I plan on earning my respect one day at a time by putting in the work, you know, so I look forward to getting in the gym.

28:46I look forward to, you know, the whole process. So the hard part, chat, is like, for the last 10 years, I've like Been programmed to like hate Philadelphia Like from the History chat to Like the history of the rivalry To the Just the playoff battles You know all of the above The process like I've been programmed To be like man fuck the process So it's like It's funny now I gotta like reverse engineer You know what I mean

29:23Shannon Sharpe:And that's the part that's gonna take some time and be like... Hey, gotta respect it, man. Gotta respect it. Look, one thing he said, one of the things he said, man, don't give me nothing, bro. I'm gonna earn your respect. You know how Philly is, Ocho. A blue-collar hard-working city, bro. Yes, sir. They want you to put it out there on the line, partner. If you ain't playing hard, they ain't gonna tell you some of the most honest fans I've had a chance to play in front of. Can be brutal at times. Can be brutal. But I think Jalen Brown, man, he's going to fit in that system perfectly. He's going to be great for those young guys, Maxie and Eshcombe.

30:09By his approach to the game, the way he comes to work, the hard work that he puts in, it's going to be infectious to where hopefully it rubs off on Embiid. That's why I keep bringing up Embiid because I just feel like, man, Man, Philly has a real chance here to do something special. So, you know, them guys lock in, man. They're going to be fun to watch. Oh, yeah.

30:30Shannon Sharpe:I think, Joe, how many years did you spend in Atlanta before you went to New Jersey? Seven. I mean, Brooklyn. You spent seven. Oh, Joe, you was in – how long were you in Cincinnati? You was in nine or ten before you went to New England? Eleven. Damn. New England. Okay. See, I was in Denver for ten and went to Baltimore. Yeah. it's tough to change because you get into a routine you already know what time you're going to get up you know how long it's going to take you to get to the stadium and you got your routine what time practice is because now I'm used to practicing on mountain time now I got to go to east coast time hey were you able to see the writing on the wall I can see the writing on the wall for myself because Joe obviously I think I only had two winning seasons in Cincinnati but then it got to a point where okay we're losing because of said individual like so when when that when that narrative started happening through the media i was like uh okay yeah i think my time is my my time is coming i saw it coming so i knew i know that the losing offensively or the offensive roles that we were having well why are they pointing at me i mean i'm not doing i'm playing independent position and because i made so much noise and had so much fun i was easy to target but I was already ready for that.

31:49I was already ready for that. So it was cool. So I understood and I saw the writing on the wall when that time would come. I just didn't know what would happen.

31:59Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I mean the thing is Joe, John retired in 98. We had just won back-to-back Super Bowls. So going into that 99 season I had gone to seven straight Pro Bowls, five all pros. That's what I've done in a nine-year stretch as a seventh rounder. Okay? So we go into that John's gone. Steve Atwater's gone. TD tears his ACL like the third game of the season. The fourth game of the season, I break my collarbone. So, I mean, I got a compound fracture. It's almost coming through the skin. And they say, well, maybe you can come back. But there was a game, I think it was the second game of the season. Second game of the season.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:We got a play called 322 wide stick, you looking. I'm always the looking guy because they always want to give me the two-way goal. Guys playing inside, I break out. The guys playing outside leverage, I break in. I'm always trying to cross his face because I know he doesn't have help inside. So I'm always, so if I can get him to open his hip just a touch, quarterback's going to put it on me. So I'm at the Y. Now, mind you, 322, Y stick, you looking. I'm always the looking. So when somebody else come in, I go to the U spot. They go to the Y spot. So I see the tight end coming in. I already don't.

33:34Shannon Sharpe:I've never played Y with two tight ends on the field. I'm always the Tiger tight end. So I'm going to the U spot. He tells me, nah, you said why.

33:50Shannon Sharpe:That's all right. So maybe it's going to be U stick, why looky? Right. Call the play, 322 wide stick, U looky. So basically, I'm the decoy. Damn.

34:08Shannon Sharpe:I go to the sideline. I asked Kube, I said, Kube, you ever seen anybody pinch hit for Barry Bonds? Ooh. I said, don't do that. I said, don't do that. That's all I said. And I walked, set my helmet down. That was the writing on the wall for me. Yes, sir. A guy that's gone to seven straight Pro Bowls, five All-Pros. I led the team in receiving the 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97. So for six of the nine years I was there, I led the team in receiving. Twice, three times, I figured twice I led the team in touchdowns. Three times I led them in touchdowns. And now I'm a decoy? I said that, still went out there, practiced hard, broke my collarbone.

35:06Shannon Sharpe:I said, nah, you know what? and I was even willing to take like a million and a half dollar pay cut my brother say he say Shan he called me Shan he say Shan he say bro if they wanted you you'd have never been a free agent that's a good one

35:30Shannon Sharpe:I told Marvin S.L.A find me some place

35:37Shannon Sharpe:go to Baltimore Baltimore. I talked to Ozzy on the phone. He said, boy, I don't come here and change now. Marvin had already told me Art Modell was going to be in Atlanta because he was dealing with the race situation because it's 2000 now. He says he wants you to fly back with him. We talking on the plane. He said, man, he said,

36:02Shannon Sharpe:I won a Super Bowl. He said, I ain't got much longer. He said, that's what I want. I said, I said, I said, Mr. Modell. He said, don't call me Mr. Modell. That's my grandfather. Call me Art. I said, Art, I ain't no quarterback, but I promise you, I'm gonna come in, I'm gonna work my ass off. Everybody's gonna see how hard I work and what it takes to, what made me become the player that I became and hopefully that, and I'll never forget, we won the Super Bowl and he comes in, he comes in the locker room and this is the first time that he, the second time, because the AFC Championship guys, he was like, he was so excited he really couldn't talk.

36:42But

36:43Shannon Sharpe:in the Super Bowl, he comes in, his wife comes in behind him. And he's already starting to tear up. And Brian says, boss, you want to say something? He says, I'll never forget this. He said, y 'all did me proud. He said, I'll never forget this. He said, I'll never forget this moment. I'll never forget this day. that's all he said and so fast forward I lead the team in receiving I go there and I lead the team in receiving Ocho I had like 6 catches for damn near I think I averaged like damn near 40 yards a catch in the postseason in Baltimore I catch it 58 to the house catch it 96 to the house 58 to the 1 hey big play shit Now y 'all know why they call me Big Play Shade.

37:39Shannon Sharpe:Year two, obviously we got an older team. They drafted Todd Heat. I go down to New Orleans because I make the Pro Bowl that year. That's my eighth and final Pro Bowl. I make the Pro Bowl. Ozzie's down there. He said, I'm being the Pro Bowl. I'm going to talk to you. I said, all right. He said, boy, what you going to do? I said, Ozzie, what you think? I said, you think I should hang him up? He said, hell no. he said boy you can still play he said Tony had one more catch than you had he the best tight in the league now you used to be there we joke like that you used to be that he said nah you can still play I said alright he said go to the Pro Bowl have fun and let's talk in about a week he said boy you know we drafted Todd he said we gonna release you he said but uh god damn yeah he told me just like that we had that type of relationship he's like I didn't want anybody else to call you I didn't want Brian to call you I didn't want anybody I wanted you to hear from me right he said we won't release you and he said what you thinking I said uh I don't know I said uh you know Marvin was telling me that you know if this happened that there are a couple of teams that have already reached out um but we'll see I'd go.

39:00Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Denver is a possibility. He said for me, I'd go back. I'd go back. And I remember when I signed back to Denver, Art Modell sent me a letter. He said, I'm proud. He said, those fans deserve to see you retire, Bronco. And still call, Ozzy, hey man, look here, man, I need this. He's like, man, I don't work in the equipment Why you calling me? Ozzy, I need a helmet. Ozzy, I need a pair of gloves. Ozzy, I need shoes. Hey, call him all of a sudden. I go there, hey, walk around just like I... I ain't played football in damn near quarter century. I can go to the Ravens and walk around, hey, you family.

39:56Shannon Sharpe:but that's one of the best places you can play because ain't nothing coming out ain't no way he was hard to get along with they tell you he worked his ass off and he rubbed off on a lot of guys that were younger and they saw how he worked and they saw what he took and they did that

40:16Shannon Sharpe:your reputation is all you got don't mess mine up because we have a falling out or you know you don't do that That's all I ask. Just own it. Ocho and Joe, they're the freakiest. I'm pulling up. Just own that. That's y 'all. Come on, man. Come on. Why you telling the great story and end the story like that? Come on. Keep it 100. That's what I'm saying, because y 'all put it out there. Hey, that man tell a lie. The truth ain't in it. Hey, that's crazy. Y 'all put it out there like that. Everybody know. Everybody know Joe. See Joe how to come. Hey, listen. Hey, listen. Hey, oh, matter of fact, it's always the quiet ones, uh-uh.

40:56Listen, can y 'all answer me this? Why is it every time we put the pole up, I'm always last in? Y 'all think y 'all fooling somebody? The chat don't know no better. Nah, nah, nah, nah, chat know like I know. The chat don't know no better.

41:08Shannon Sharpe:They ain't going for it, I ain't going for it. We know. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Ocho, they tell me Joe was on the sunroof one time. Had the sunroof open. Yeah. Had a little, nah. Hang it down to the middle of the lady up there like a durable. You know how the gerbil be drinking water? Oh, you gotta chill. You gotta chill. Hey, hey, hey, hey. That's how rumors and lies get spreaded. Yeah, no, I ain't that free, yo, Joe. I don't do nothing like that. Yeah, don't let it fool you, Joe. Don't let it fool you, Joe. I know, I'm not. Hey, I'm hip to him now. I'm hip to him. Yeah, they had the sunroof open.

41:43Shannon Sharpe:Earl girl was up there like a gerbil. What? Damn, huh? Yeah, you ever see the gerbil? They have the water, and the gerbil be up there I'm drinking the water. Yeah, that was you Joey. That was that I told you. Hey, hey, hey. Chat, no it's you. Real talk, there may be some ugly, he just trying to blame it off on me.

42:02There may be some ugly, and he trying to throw it off on me. That's what I'm saying. That's what the word is. I don't know. When you was driving when that happened, tell the truth. I don't know nothing.

42:14Shannon Sharpe:I don't know nothing.

42:18Shannon Sharpe:But he's going to, it's tough. Anytime, because everybody reported what, guys? He didn't ask to be traded. Right. So, you know, because sometimes people put a, oh, it was a mutual. You know what I'm saying? They used a mutual. They parted ways mutually. No. Y 'all did this. Y 'all did this. I didn't want this. So it's hard. Because he said, hold on, like he said, I worked hard. Hey, I didn't want anything because I didn't ask Boston for anything. I just showed up every day, worked my tail off. That was it. Hey, when they want to get rid of you, they'll find a reason, fella. You couldn't do enough when they want to get rid of you.

43:09Oh, yeah.

43:10Shannon Sharpe:But they let Tom Brady. If they let Tom Brady walk, who's safe in sports? Come on, man. Emmitt Smith. They let him walk the all-time leading Russia. Jerry. Hey, got Luke of the Don up out of there. Anybody can go. Yes, sir. Yeah.

43:34Shannon Sharpe:A source close to Jason Tatum's camp spoke to Scoot B on his relationship with Jalen Brown and the belief that the two don't like each other. That's false. They do. They're just different people. They have really good work relationship. The things they don't do, they do on and off the court don't necessarily align. But there is surely a mutual respect. On the court, in the gym, today-ish, they're best work buddies. Off the court. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we can calm down a little.

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48:32Shannon Sharpe:They're just not. That's OK. Why is that so hard for people to understand? I didn't go to any Fox Christmas parties. I didn't go to any CBS Christmas parties. I didn't go to any Broncos Christmas parties. I didn't go to any Ravens Christmas parties. That ain't me. That doesn't mean I don't like y 'all. I see y 'all every day. hey, I don't want to get dressed up and see you mofos again. Well, from the public eye, you got to look from the public's perspective. You know, when you talk about if I see, if I know Tatum and Brown are this dynamic duo on the court, from a fan's perspective, yeah, like if I see Jalen Brown having something, I wanted a Tatum goal.

49:24Like you never see, you know, you never see that. But they actually do like each other. It's not that they really do get along. They just very different.

49:34Shannon Sharpe:bro and you had it but if you go back and look at it michael and scotty were they close no jack and kobe kairi and lebron it's okay completely i don't know this notion that if we're the best two players we got to get along and and hang out together well i don't think that the get along part is a little a different, but hanging out. They wasn't like, I met your function, you at mine. I met your house, you at mine. Yeah, we get along. We have a work relationship. It's strictly work related. When I go my way, you go your way and it's okay. I don't, and look, and people like Chad, I'm sure you guys work with people that you don't go to their house for cookouts or functional things like that.

50:26Shannon Sharpe:and that's okay. Yeah. I'm not big on going to people's house anyway. My homeboy Bucket wife asks him all the time, man, why you never invite Shannon because he ain't coming? He don't like people like that, man. I'm not going to lie to you. You don't like people like that. Michelle asks Burns all the time. You don't never ask Shannon hey sharp ain't coming I'm a and I know it's hard for people to believe because they see me on TV and I talk a lot I'm an introverted person me too I'm shy man please

51:14listen listen y 'all ain't gonna pull this shy guy shit on me

51:17Shannon Sharpe:nah nah nah no no no no no no for real anybody that know me they'll tell you I'm the most outgoing introvert because here's the thing joe you see where i am right now yeah i'm in my comp i'm in combined in my space absolutely

51:34i'm protected yeah yeah and yo i i'm only like this on camera in person i've never liked it joe

51:42Shannon Sharpe:like i'm scared to talk to people man this joker here man this social butterfly i'm shocked thank you i'm shy in public in front of women i don't know how to talk to people i don't know do you You think Chad going for that, bruh? No. Why you saying lying to Chad like that? Chad like family, man. Don't act like that with Chad. Yeah. Hey, I'm lying. I'm lying. I mean, I can talk. You know what I'm saying? Oh, we know you can talk, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Man, I talked to Snell in the blind two blocks of salt. He bought him. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I just, but, and that's, cause I, a girl I dated, and people like, man, he gotta be so much fun.

52:27Shannon Sharpe:I mean, he be cracking me up on Undisputed. She say, y 'all think he really like that? Mm-hmm. It's pulling teeth to get him to talk. Mm. Well, I know what you mean. That's what I am, most of the time. My sister was just here a month.

52:48Shannon Sharpe:I come, I'll eat. What you want me to pick you up when I go to the gym or I go get what you want? I come back. We'll eat together. We talk a little bit. I'm sitting on the couch watching TV. She's like, she'll go to her room and watch the exact same thing that I'm watching on my TV, on her TV in the room. when my brother go to Glenville he'll be sitting on the couch she have our moments we have our moments where we talk 20-30 minutes after that boom we gone same thing my brother he came out here for a couple of days we go out on the back we talk for a little bit man what you about to do man I'm gonna go on in here and find something on the dog channel alright I'll see you that's just the way we are yeah yeah I dig it bro.

53:42I ain't gonna lie. I dig it because my social battery be low as I don't know what.

53:47Shannon Sharpe:I'm drained Joe. I'm drained. When I go out and I'm in a function Joe I'm exhausted. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. I feel like I played a game and I'm literally exhausted. because people like when you wanna work and I, you know, work the room, hey, how you doing? Cause when I had my shade, you know, I'm walking around and I'm talking to people, thanks for coming, it's gonna be big this year. Oh, we got, ooh. Where you gonna be at? I'm trying to figure out how all these people came. Where you gonna be at? Can't tell you a secret. Hey, where we going? I'm talking about for my Laporte party that's gonna be in LA during the Super Bowl next year.

54:36Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to get my 900 people. Let me get my suit ready. It's going to be bigger next year. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to be clean as the board in hell, Joe. Yeah, Joe. What is up, y 'all?

54:53Shannon Sharpe:They have a great working relationship. JB got there a year before JT. They both went with the same purpose. Hey, I'm going to try to be the best player I can be. I'm going to be the best player I can be. Let's try. Let's win a championship. They did that. That's okay. You think we got, hey, I was cool. I was buddy-buddy with everybody on the team. Ain't nobody like that. You ain't buddy-buddy with everybody in your office, even in the same cubicle space. That's okay. A great duo. But I ain't never been one of those guys, Joe. And maybe that's because how we were brought up. Right. Because my grandmother ain't really, really never.

55:35Shannon Sharpe:Now, my grandfather would go, and he would make us go. But just for her to go to people's house and talk? Yeah, nah, we ain't never had to do that, neither.

55:47No. Nah. But I hate to see this great duo break up, bro, JT and JB.

55:53Shannon Sharpe:Obviously, name one that stuck together, other than Kareem and Magic. That's a good one. It seems like they always turn them against each other, don't they, man? I think the thing is, yes, but one thing's like, I need a little bit more shine, or I need to get some of the treatment, because you hear Tristan was talking about Kyrie and LeBron, and he says it wasn't about anything else, but Kyrie might have felt that he should have gotten some of the perks that LeBron got. Like, you know, your people get to come, you know, I want my massage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever the case may be, that might be, that's what Tristan, That's what he observed.

56:33Shannon Sharpe:But it's hard. Kobe like, bro, I don't need no big brother. I'm him. I'm here.

56:44Shannon Sharpe:Especially, see the thing with Scotty, Scotty ain't never, Scotty know he wasn't Jordan. He played his role to the team. He Robin. He might have been the best Robin. Yeah. But boy, when you get these two alphas. That's what it is. And Kobe has started, Kobe averaging 29 in the playoffs. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nah. We Batman and Superman. We both heroes. Robert ain't got no power. Robert ain't even got no belt. All Robin got is a cape. Huh? All Robin got is a cape in the mouth. That's it. He ain't got his own car. He riding shotgun all the time. He called me like, hey, I need a Batmobile.

57:35Shannon Sharpe:I need a motorcycle or something. Hey. So, I agree with you, man. I hate they had to break up. Sometimes you don't realize how good something is until it's gone. We've all made that mistake. Damn, man, I had a good one.

57:59Shannon Sharpe:But JT, JB, you gonna be alright. Yeah, he is, bro. He is. Yeah, absolutely. Just, hey, you don't need to be anything other than Jalen Brown. Oh, he gonna do that. That's plenty good enough. That's plenty, that's more than enough. The Celtics, Pistons, and Rockets reportedly discussed a three-team trade involving Alperin Sung-Shengun, Kevin Durant, and Jalen Brown per Brett Siegel. There were talks about Kevin Durant trade involving Jalen Brown and Alperin Sung-Shengun. Kevin Durant would have gone to the Pistons. The Celtics was going to get Sung-Shengun, and then Jalen Brown would have gone to the Rockets.

58:44Shannon Sharpe:Ultimately, Houston did not want that type of package. Nah. Yeah, they're going to give up a – you're going to give up your all-star center? the guy who you played through, Houston wasn't willing to do it. No. Because if I was Boston, I probably would have done that. If I was trying to get up off of them, considering what they got for them, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But here's the thing. Shingun is a better offensive player, but Joe, he ain't playing. Well, here's the thing. But you got Mitchell Robinson to play defense. So now you don't need him to be as defensive dependent to hold a fort down because you got Mitchell Robinson to do that and you got Clayton to do that also.

59:33Shannon Sharpe:So now he can really play a role where he can facilitate and just hunt off the field. And look, Boston figured, they figured, even if we had JT and JB healthy, Uncle Ocho, damn, down in the paint, that's where we got our ass kicked at, you know, in the postseason. MB just kind of had his way with the Celtics. So by them going to get Mitchell Robinson, they say we gonna have something for that. And on top of that, if they coulda got Shingun, I bet they woulda took Shingun, bro. Yeah, Shingun, you know. So Shingun, Mitchell Robinson, JT. So it look like Peyton Pritchard and Derrick White gonna be your star.

1:00:11Hey, hey, hey, it's time for Peyton Pritchard. That's your boy, Ocho, he got, hey, hey. He got to get to it this year, boy. Yeah, he ain't going to have no choice. And matter of fact, listen, we talk about the trade, Jalen Brown, JT's team, JT taking over. Listen, if JT's season doesn't look anything like it looked with Jalen Brown last year when JT was out, this trade is going to look ridiculous. Well, here's the thing. I think he's going to get a lot of help, a lot of contribution from a lot of guys around him. Meaning Peyton Pritchard is probably going to be a little better, Uncle Ocho. considering the fact that he's going to be the starter.

1:00:49Derek White, hopefully he stays consistent. You know, you got, I don't know who they're going to have at the three. Who they're going to have at the three? Sam Hauser? Tatum. Oh, yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, to keep the floor space. He going to do what he do, knock down three-point shooter. Yeah, JT going to have to come back. He going to need.

1:01:06Shannon Sharpe:He going to need to average 30. Yeah, just to shut these folks up, that's what he going to need. He going to need at least 30. Just shut them up. Hey, listen, it's going to be crazy if it ain't. If it don't look like it did when JB was steering the ship this year, it's going to be crazy. Well, the difference is. Indiana is going to be pretty good too, Joe. Indiana. They get Halliburton back. Oh, Tally, Hallie back? You think they're going to be that good? With Zubac? Hallie is there. What's the guy they get from? Zubac. Zubac. Good pick and roll player. Yeah. Hustle. They should. Nim hard. They should be solid.

1:01:46They should be solid. They should be solid. I don't know. I think, you know, I'm going to have to see it with Indiana because I'm going to have to see how Halliburton is coming back off this. You know, everybody just ain't going to come back off the damn Achilles and be back to this all. Everybody going to be capable. Man, hey, that's a tough injury to come back from, bro. It is. You know, so to see Tatum back, you know, obviously he took, you know, at the end of that playoffs, he took it off. But for the most part, he looked good. I'm sure he's getting back healthy. He's getting back 100%. Yeah, I expect for him to come out and be that boy this year, Ocho.

1:02:25Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Joe, the Knicks have shown some interest in acquiring LeBron services. Nah. 76ers are also reportedly showing interest in LeBron. Joe, Bron in Philly or New York? Listen, World Wide West and Bron, they go way back. If y 'all know, you know, okay? They do. They, they, they, hey, hey, that's Bron player partner worldwide. So, but I can't see Bron going to the Knicks because they won. Now, if they didn't win, I'm sure he would go to the Knicks, Uncle Ocho. But, man, he ain't finna go over there, bro. He ain't, they sound good. He ain't going there. I'm going to tell you that Philly, Philly looks sexy.

1:03:04Miami looks sexy. Cleveland, you know, it looked decent. But I think that Philly and Miami, you're going to cause hell whichever team you go to.

1:03:17Shannon Sharpe:yeah i wanted to go somewhere that ain't gonna win it just average 30. nah nah he ain't doing that because you know they're gonna talk about it they're gonna talk about him know if he just average 30 he ain't winning that's part of being the king hey hey hey hey why i tell you an ocho heavy is the head that wears the crown man listen right yes sir yes sir yes sir but it ain't it ain't very it ain't very often in basketball where you win the title and walk off the court like we see it in football. Nah, you're right. We see John Elway do it. We see Strahan do it. We see Jerome Bettas do it. That don't really happen in basketball.

1:03:54Guys rarely leave out on top. But when you talk about top, Bron is still at the top, bro. You know, you talk about, you know, his scoring has diff. But damn, man, considering his effect on the game alone, I'm telling y 'all, bro, I'm telling you, You put him in a position to where the scoring load ain't on his back, that he can be a Swiss Army knife, you know, willingly, not like how he had to do with the Lakers last year because he wasn't willingly wanting to do that. You know, he just did it, you know, for the sake of the team. But you put him in Philly or Miami, that boy going to show out. Watch.

1:04:30Watch what I tell you.

1:04:31Shannon Sharpe:And the greatest walk-up would have been Jordan. If he'd have really left after he did that, Joe. But how, though? How do you leave? How do you leave like that? He did. He retired. He left 99. I'm saying. Man, you got to be a bad dude, bro, to go out on top like that, then come back. Man, come on, man. What we talking about? You think, hey, Ocho, can y 'all go out at y 'all highest? Y 'all done want it. You the main. I'm gone. I'm out. I'm out. Man. Nah, because, listen, in order for me to leave, that means I don't love the game no more. Like, I have to be done with it. I got to be done with it.

1:05:12You know, I can't do it and then try to muster it all back up, get back to training, get back in shape. And that's what happened to MJ. He got so tired of the game because they started to beat up on him in the media, Uncle Ojo, due to, you know, him being so great. Now you're talking about his gambling, this, that, and the third. Man, damn, there's something to go play baseball. Yeah. Yeah, that's basically what he did. Yeah, man, damn, there's something to go play baseball. Y 'all got me bent. You know what?

1:05:41Shannon Sharpe:Can you imagine with his habits of gambling and being out, if social media was around back then, Joe? Yeah. I can't, bro. I can't. Because he was so iconic then. And if you got social media, that would have been times 10. Yeah. And I think that, you know what? But here's the thing, though, Joe. I think because there was no social media, he was like a ghost. Yeah. If you saw him, you saw it. It wasn't no on the street pulling up because we see them pull up beside celebrities now. They all on the interstate. Somebody pull up beside The Rock or they pull up beside Justin Bieber or Taylor Swift. You couldn't get that with Jordan because you didn't see him.

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