Nightcap Hour 2: Shedeur Time LOADING in CLEVELAND? + Rodgers set to face Jordan Love & PACKERS + Westbrook CAN’T STAND FAKE LeBron + Jimmy Butler NO HIDDEN AGENDAS

21 Oct 2025 · 55 min · 22 chapters

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In short

The episode is a sports-and-culture “Nightcap” discussion mixing NFL, NBA, and soccer talk, plus Q&A. Topic highlights: (1) Aaron Rodgers vs Jordan Love storyline for Packers-Steelers, with the claim that the game’s real headline is Love outplaying Rodgers and that Green Bay’s coaches/players will publicly downplay it. The hosts argue Rodgers was upset about being replaced and that the Packers drafted Love to end “hostage” dynamics; they also say “tolerance never outweighs production.”

Notable examples

Rodgers’ long tenure, Green Bay drafting Love despite Rodgers’ objections, and the idea that coaches will say “all the right things” regardless. (2) Cleveland Browns rumors: ESPN Cleveland sources claim Shedeur Sanders could play this season, possibly starting at least four games (vs Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals), though the hosts urge skepticism and say they’d avoid flip-flopping quarterbacks after an earlier change. (3) NBA: Russell Westbrook reportedly criticized LeBron as “fake,” citing behind-the-scenes behavior and misstatements; Jimmy Butler says Miami had “no hidden agendas.”

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none named; the episode is hosted by “Ocho” and “Tab Ramos” (Inside American Soccer) with additional guest-like voices implied by transcript segments, but no clear guest roster.

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Chapters

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Cherish's Journey to Nursing

1:05 to 1:43

Cherish Adams shares her inspiring story of becoming a nurse.

“At Orderly Meds, we know this time is a reminder that life is full of new beginnings.”

Cherish's Journey to Nursing

2:35 to 3:08

Cherish Adams shares her inspiring story of becoming a nurse.

“16 years ago, I started working as a CNA in the hospital.”

Aaron Rodgers vs. Jordan Love Showdown

3:08 to 7:48

Discussion on the upcoming game between Packers and Steelers focusing on Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love dynamics.

“Sunday, games between the Packers and the Steelers isn't about Aaron Rodgers and Matt LaFleur.”

Quarterback Dynamics in Cleveland

7:48 to 14:01

Analysis of the quarterback situation in Cleveland with mentions of Shadour Sanders.

“Brett Farr want to win this game more than anything because guess what?”

Quarterback Decisions and Changes

14:01 to 17:18

Discussion about making quarterback changes and their impact on teams.

“you probably need to stick with it because you've already made one quarterback change.”

International Game Trends and Travel Stories

17:19 to 20:28

Exploration of NFL trends in international games and personal travel experiences.

“I mean Sunday morning, played, and got right back on the plane.”

Dating and Age Perspectives

20:29 to 24:45

A light-hearted conversation about dating experiences and age-related perspectives.

“I think probably next year or two, I'm going to take me a couple trips.”

News Reporting and Trust Issues

24:46 to 26:05

Concerns about news reporting and the importance of factual information.

“Hey, listen, you got to understand, as you get older, as you get older, whether you're male or female, now you compete with the young folk.”

News Reporting and Trust Issues

26:36 to 27:31

Concerns about news reporting and the importance of factual information.

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News Reporting and Trust Issues

27:35 to 29:02

Concerns about news reporting and the importance of factual information.

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Westbrook vs. LeBron: Authenticity Dispute

29:10 to 39:50

Explore the tensions between Russell Westbrook and LeBron James regarding authenticity and support.

“During a Lakers team event where Will Smith came to speak, LeBron and AD suddenly walked out before he arrived.”

Predictions and Picks for NBA Games

39:50 to 42:00

Hear predictions and insights on upcoming NBA games and player performances.

“So he needs to have 16 points, eight rebounds.”

Betting Predictions and Strategies

42:00 to 42:54

Learn the hosts' predictions for player performances and betting strategies.

“So when you combine his points, rebounds and assists, it'll be more than 47 and a half.”

Jimmy Butler's Chaos and Team Goals

43:08 to 48:30

Discussion on Jimmy Butler's reflections on last season's turmoil and team objectives.

“And he's glad to finally be a part of an organization with no hidden agendas.”

Dance Celebrations in Sports

48:30 to 51:24

Hosts share their favorite dance celebrations from sports history.

“you with steph and draymond y 'all got a great chance you get comingo back he stayed let's see if it works out for everybody hey wait oh definitely said he got no big They got Draymond.”

Gospel Music and Personal Insights

51:24 to 55:42

Discussion on gospel music and the hosts' personal experiences with faith and signs.

“He's not over the Mississippi Mass Choir.”

NFL Reflections and MVP Discussions

55:42 to 56:00

Reflections on NFL coaching and MVP performances by players.

NFL Blame and Quarterback Performance

56:00 to 58:35

Discussion on NFL scheduling and quarterback performances, including Baker Mayfield's struggles.

“Blocking Yeah there was some time I was like bro Y 'all got two guys On one guy and let one guy run scot free through.”

Tall Players and Career Reflections

58:35 to 1:02:16

Talk about the height of various basketball players and reflections on player careers, including Trent Dilfer.

“Ocho, I know you got an eye for good eats.”

Cardinals Quarterback Concerns

1:02:16 to 1:02:46

Discussion on the Cardinals' quarterback situation and the challenges faced by Kyler Murray.

“better than what they're playing currently and i don't even know if that's possible That concludes this episode of Nightcap.”

Show Closing and Promotions

1:02:46 to 1:05:52

Closing remarks, show appreciation for listeners, and promotional mentions, including a recap of game results.

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Show Closing and Promotions

1:06:42 to 1:07:57

Closing remarks, show appreciation for listeners, and promotional mentions, including a recap of game results.

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0:00I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

0:07Shannon Sharpe:It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News. Reporting for America. This is Tab Ramos from Inside American Soccer. And this summer, Topgolf is turning into the ultimate soccer destination. They've got a new soccer-themed game you can play with your group, exclusive food and drink items. They've even installed full-size soccer goals so you can try to hit golf balls right into the net. And every match all summer long will be on throughout the venue.

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2:48I was hanging out with a friend and they just questioned me what I was going to do with this next chapter of my life. I immediately said, I want to go to nursing school. So I actually had contact information from an advisor at Rasmussen, contacted her and actually ended up starting like three weeks later. My name is Cherish Adams and I'm a Rasmussen University graduate.

3:05Shannon Sharpe:Learn more at rasmussen.edu. Sunday, games between the Packers and the Steelers isn't about Aaron Rodgers and Matt LaFleur. Matt LaFleur said today, we're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers, who happen to have Aaron Rodgers. It's as simple as that. That's for you guys to talk about. Granted, I mean, we've got a lot of love and respect for Aaron. We know what he's done here. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer. And I know, like our past together, we had a lot of great moments. But the game is not about that. Ocho, what's the biggest statement? Aaron Rodgers taking down his former team, or Jordan Love outplaying his old mentor?

3:40I think as a Green Bay Packer fan, organization, coaches, hell, fans in general, you would want Jordan Love to outplay your quarterback that used to be there for a decade plus. That's what you want to happen. Or the coach is going to say all the right things. You're damn near two decades. Damn near two decades. Obviously, the coach is going to say all the right things. Oh, it's not about Aaron Rodgers. Yes. Yeah, whatever. You know what it is. You know what the storylines are going to be with this week coming up. and you want your players that's in your locker room, especially at the quarterback position to not only play well, but to beat Aaron Rodgers because you want that to be the headline.

4:17You want that to be what they talk about after the game is over.

4:21Shannon Sharpe:Everybody will say the right thing. Listen to Tom Brady talk now. Oh, I hyped up everybody, but in the actuality, what I'm telling my team, we're going to kick his ass. We're going to kick their ass. I've been saying that. Yeah, they're going to say all the right things. Oh, look, it's just another opponent. They just happen to be on that schedule. Bull jive. No, it ain't just another opponent. It's not. Aaron Rodgers is upset with how he was treated his last couple years there. He didn't want them to draft Jordan Love. He made that abundantly clear. They did it anyway. Yes. They were tired of being held hostage by Aaron Rodgers.

5:10Shannon Sharpe:the same thing, Aaron did the same thing that Brett Barb did. They got tired of it. They got tired of Brett not wanting to come to training camp, not wanting to do anything but play in the game. They got tired of Aaron doing the same thing, so they drafted his replacement.

5:32Shannon Sharpe:Production and tolerance. As long as production is here, tolerance will be here. Tolerance will never, ever outweigh production. I don't care what line of work you're in. As long as you produce, they'll tolerate a lot of ish from you. The moment tolerance is more than production, you got to go.

6:00Shannon Sharpe:But, I mean, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I ain't got nothing to hang his head about. Bro, you got four even. Look, do I believe Aaron should have won more in Green Bay? Yes. Based on what the talent that he had. Based on his talent alone. One of the two or three most gifted throwers of the football that we've ever seen. You're going to probably have to go a long, long time before you find somebody that can throw the ball that was as good as Aaron Rodgers. And you look at what they had offensively, the talent that they had. You look at the defensive talent, I think it should have won more. I do. I think, man, at least.

6:39Shannon Sharpe:I do. I think they should have. Even if you don't win a Super Bowl, get to a Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Get to one. They were crazy talented. Oh. But other than that, look, he wants to win, too. He's going to say all the right things. When they ask him, when they get into the locker room on Wednesday, he's going to say all the right things. Had a great time there. Met some friends there. Got some cool guys. Some guys in that locker room. I'm still cool with. He's probably still cool with Jordy, Clay Matthews Jr. There's some guys maybe on the team. I don't know how many of the guys on the team that's still there when he was there.

7:13Shannon Sharpe:I'm sure he's cool with some of the people in upper management. He might be still cool with them. Probably not Brian Gutekitz. He's not cool with him. But there are probably some people, you know, some personnel, equipment managers, or training staff, things like that, Ocho. You know, hey, you see these guys every day. And you're there like, when you're there for 5, 10, 15, there was there for like, what, 18 years? Yes. But everybody's going to say the right thing, but I promise you Matt LaFleur want to win this game more than anything. Brett Farr want to win this game more than anything because guess what?

7:52Shannon Sharpe:I told you. I got to be able to tell you I told you, Soulja. You don't got to say it publicly. Hey, just watch how I'm going to walk different after I get this win. I'm a walk different. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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10:41Shannon Sharpe:Many fans have called for Kevin Stefanski, two-time coach of the year. I think he's been two-time coach of the year at Cleveland Browns, to be fired, saying he's been the problem rather than the Browns quarterback. Deshaun Watson got caught liking videos ish talking Stefanski on TikTok Ocho you like Deshaun doing this? I mean it's social media sometimes you like stuff you shouldn't sometimes you like stuff you should maybe Deshaun feels the same way everyone else feels is it okay for him to be able to like it publicly I mean yeah I'd assume so if you're able to deal with the consequences of doing so and obviously he's in a position where he doesn't really care, which is why he did it publicly.

11:27Because everyone can see what you like.

11:31Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. Everybody can see it. That's why, you know what, Ocho? When I get to a page and they saying something about, look, obviously I know Stephen A's been trending a lot lately. I scroll right on past it. Yeah, so it's no mistakes, huh? nope somebody say something about something i strode right on past it because i already know hey i ain't i ain't know i ain't know them i ain't know it was that serious too speaking of speaking of uh stephen a i mean uh ain't i thought i thought lebron thing i thought that was just like uh you know their makeup they're gonna be like muhammad ali and howard cosell i'm I'm like, oh, shoot, but they dead ass.

12:17No, I just, hey, that's him.

12:21Shannon Sharpe:I could comment, but that's not my place. I'm good. We over here. All right, Ocho, according to ESPN Cleveland, two different sources told them that Shadour Sanders will play for the Browns this season. One says Shadour will start at least four games of the season, no matter what. Those final four games against the Bears, Bills, Steelers, and Bengals. The other said, other source said that Shadour may take over even sooner than that. Ocho, what do you make of this? I mean, I take it with a grain of salt. If you watch the Browns when they beat the Dolphins, it really had nothing really to do with the quarterback position.

12:57The defense played so goddamn out their mind and practically won that game. I say they give Dillian Gabriel maybe another week, maybe two, maybe even three because that is the person they chose to be, the backup quarterback of Flacco. it's a lot of football left, it's a lot of football left. And he has to play extremely bad maybe the next game or the next two games before I think they make a choice and they move to Shadour. Because once they make a move to the third quarterback,

13:30Shannon Sharpe:you can't be flip-flopping back and forth. No. Dylan Gabriel get three, four games. Shadour get three, four games. And you go back up. I agree with you. I agree. Look, I don't know. I don't know. This is what the guy said, the sources inside of Cleveland told him. I don't know. I don't know anybody in Cleveland. So I can't neither confirm nor deny that it's true. But what I do know is that whatever decision that you make, you probably need to stick with it because you've already made one quarterback change. So if you make another one, that's two. Are you really trying to make three quarterback changes in the season?

14:16You see what happened with the first quarterback change you made. It wasn't the right decision because you ship one to a great situation.

14:25Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Yes. You got a guy that can throw the football. He understands. You ship him to a team that's quarterback-deprived, that has great skill players, and you give him a guy that's not mobile, but he can throw it. Man, listen. And like Mike Thomas says, Hey, Tommy's funny, bro. Andrew Baird must be a lot smarter than you and I. Hey, we might hang 50 on the Jets, man. Mike! We might hang 50 on the Jets. Mike, but I believe y 'all going to be facing Tyrod. Oh, Did Aaron Glenn come out and say who was the starter this week yet? Nope, he did not. That's tough for him. That's tough. He didn't. But I, look, you know, you heard time say that, look, Shador time is going to come, and when it comes, just be ready.

15:32Shannon Sharpe:He said it's going to happen, but just be ready. and we all go through that being a low round draft pick just like wait my brother told me John Elway's gonna call your number when he called just make sure you're ready and I hope when he gets that call he comes in there and he shows that hey you got a quarterback and you can build with me we won't know until we see it the rams became the first nfl team to fly in the day before an international game and play then immediately head back out and it worked the rams won 35-7 over the jags the rams always ahead of trends it's what makes them unique could this be the next big trend how far flight is that six hours oh no from la not from no la la that's about 12 yeah yeah about 12 what part what part of the UK are you going to from LA that you get there in 6 hours maybe if you in New York New York is 6 hours and 30 minutes

16:52I forgot I'm tripping

16:56Shannon Sharpe:yeah it's 6 hours I'm taking that flight a lot going to JFK. It's six hours from LA to JFK. That's a long flight from LA, huh? Yeah, hell yeah. Hold on, to go and turn right back around? Yes. So they flew in, they got in Saturday, woke up Saturday morning, I mean Sunday morning, played, and got right back on the plane. So they was there less than 24 hours. Hey, that's what you call I'm going strictly for business and nothing else. Oh, yeah. Man, I remember we played we played we went to Tokyo. We flew to Tokyo. Tokyo? International. You know, used to play those international pre-season games. So I played in Berlin, Barcelona, Mexico, Tokyo twice.

17:54Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, how about we take that long ass flight? We had to pack a bag we went because guys, if you were married, you were able to take your wife. They went to a separate, they got on the bus, and then we went and we ran wind sprints. Wait, what? Yes. So if your wife came with you, you didn't have to run? No. The wives got on the bus and they went to the hotel. We got on another bus and took our ass to the field and ran sprints. What, to get some of that jet lag? Well, we don't want y 'all to go to sleep. Well, my body say I'm sleeping. My body ain't telling me I'm running. Right, right, right. Hey, that's fun.

18:41Man, I don't know.

18:42Shannon Sharpe:I don't be knowing where they be coming up with this, that, bro, Joe. Well, you know, you get somewhere in the National, you know, you make sure you don't go to sleep. Get out and walk around. Get the body moving. But I'm tired. How long is that flight that took? unless you like somebody else I know that can sleep the whole while we play. How long was that flight to Tokyo? Ooh, gosh. Don't start me the line. Oh, we went to Australia too, Ocho. Oh. How do you remember now, Ocho? Hey, that sounds like a good time, yeah. Well, it's a good time. Like, you have to think, I done been all over the world, but my traveling is done strictly for soccer.

19:21I'm strictly going for soccer games. I've never been to Tokyo, but if I was to go somewhere where it had nothing to do with soccer, Tokyo is a place I go.

19:33Shannon Sharpe:It's hot. Hot. It feels just, hell yeah. Oh, I live in Miami. Okay, it's just like Miami, but it's more crowded.

19:46Shannon Sharpe:So double the amount of people that's in Miami, because we went to Tokyo. So double the amount of people. damn yeah I liked it I think we flew to Australia I think it was like 18 hours

20:04Shannon Sharpe:because we had a double decker you had an upstairs and a downstairs that's how it was when I flew to Qatar I flew to Dubai and I had to go to I want to fly United Emirates because I be seeing the things on TikTok where they be having a first class and they got off. It's nice. I just want to take me a trip. I might just fly over there, stay on the plane, turn around and come right back. But I want to do that. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I got to do that. Got to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. That, that, that. Yeah, you know what, Ocho? I think probably next year or two, I'm going to take me a couple trips.

20:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Matter of fact, you said in a year or two also, you was, um, you was going to get. That's why, that's why I'm going to take me a couple trips. I got to find out. I mean, If I can't be with you three or four days, how am I going to be with you three or four years? That's a good one right there. I like that. I like that. I like that. Matter of fact, you ain't even got to take the trips. You can make sure you can be with three or four days in the States. If I can be with you three or four days... I got to go. Because for what I've been hearing, they're like, Shanna, you ain't going to find nobody.

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21:13Shannon Sharpe:Look, bro, I know you're setting your way, but women like to go on vacation, bro. They do. They do. They like a little change of scenery. They like a little change of scenery. I mean, you know how they say depending on what's left out here. You know? You got to pick from what's left, you know? No, I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. Hey. Man, everything, look here. This ain't no back to school. Everything ain't picked over now, Ocho. Damn. You make it seem like it's back to school out here.

21:52It's Slim Pickens. Now, once we get up in age, it ain't like we just got the best of the best. You're right, Ocho. You're right. You're right. Man, listen. You got to get what you can. Like, you go in the produce section, they done picked all the goddamn good fruit. Now, you got to pick it.

22:10Shannon Sharpe:That's why you got to wash fruit. Everybody hand them bent on it. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You go back to an apple if you want to It's done been touched 50 times

22:24Hey you can't be too picky You gotta work with what you got Damn Ocho I can't be picky Ocho Picky you gonna be by your damn self trying to be picky

22:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah I guess I guess I gotta Nobody Know the trouble I

22:50hey hey but them days are trying to be picky and pick the right one and man shit yeah yeah yeah you right Ocho I remember those days you know yeah you got all these requirements she gotta look like this gotta have this pixie haircut and yeah A barb. All that shit out the window, boy. Once you get past 40. Yeah, boy. Hey, pick it. Pick it.

23:20Shannon Sharpe:I guess it ain't no hope for old shit.

23:30Hey, I better go for the damn half off sale. Half off? Boy, that's a clearance rack, boy, once you hit Ryan. Damn!

23:42Shannon Sharpe:So I got to go to Marshalls or Ross?

23:49Shannon Sharpe:Come on, Chad. God dang.

23:58God dang. Hey, boy, shit rough, boy. Shit rough. Damn. Hey, women can get away with it. They in their 20s? You know, early 30s? You can get away with it. You know, having, oh, I got requirements and you got to meet this and meet that. But you hit about, you know, 40, 45? Oh, shit. All that shit out the window now. You better get what you can. All that being picky.

24:28Shannon Sharpe:Go on, get old half off sale. Dollar Tree, here I come.

24:34Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, hey, I heard Dollar Tree done marked everything up. they ain't got no more dollars at Dollar Tree. They say everything $2.99,$3.99,$9.99 Dollar Tree. Damn, I'm out of gas. Oh, well. Hey, listen, you got to understand, as you get older, as you get older, whether you're male or female, now you compete with the young folk. You're competing with the young folk. Now, if you don't want to compete, you know, you... All right, let me, let me, let me, let me... Oh, Lord. Let me, let me... I guess Ocho. Hey, let me check and see what I got to come on in here. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

25:17Shannon Sharpe:It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News, reporting for America.

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29:12Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey. Let me go and get my umbrella. It's raining outside. I gotta come on in the house. Damn. Russell Westbrook reportedly grew tired of LeBron's fake behavior during his time in LA according to Yaron Weissman I hate that fake ish I just can't do it LeBron quietly pushed for a reunion with Kyrie Irving a move that would have required trading Russell Westbrook despite publicly denying it LeBron often let Russ be Russ in interviews but didn't actually support him behind the scenes. During a Lakers team event where Will Smith came to speak, LeBron and AD suddenly walked out before he arrived.

29:57Shannon Sharpe:Minutes later, they returned acting overly friendly. LeBron dominated the talk, asking questions and quoting movie lines. Westbrook was watching in disbelief, told a teammate, I hate this fake ish. I just can't do it. Westbrook saw multiple examples of LeBron misrepresenting himself like claiming The Godfather was his favorite movie but not knowing a single line carrying the autobiography of Malcolm X to interviews without being able to discuss it and even saying he predicted Kobe's 81 point game. These moments made Russ view LeBron as inauthentic.

30:38I thought I thought everybody got along, huh? I thought everybody got along so now when I hear Russell Westbrook saying I also heard LeBron I mean LeBron, I heard Stephen A. say the same thing in some clips I saw today when I was flying in today, I flew in from Columbus, I did some shoot with Jeremiah Smith today and I saw the same, I'm like well damn, the same thing you just said or Russell Westbrook just said, well Stephen A. just said he was doing behind closed doors as well and I listen when you as powerful as powerful you don't reach that level of that height of fame and I don't know that's one that's hard for me to gain because all I know is being me all I know is being me authentically myself whether you like it or not I did in the NFL there were certain rules you had to abide by I chose not if it If it meant doing it your way and I couldn't truly be my authentic self, that means it wasn't going to work for me, which is why I never changed what I was playing.

31:48So that same person you get on the field is the same person you get off the field. I can't be anyone else but myself. I'm not an actor. Ain't no cameras rolling. What you see is what you get. so I mean I understand what Westbrook is talking about in a sense but I'm not in their world I don't get to see LeBron all the time I don't get to interact with him I'm not on the team so the times I do see him is well what's up it's good to see you and I'm gone so it's hard for me you would be better you know better verse to be discussed this than me

32:24Shannon Sharpe:all I know how he is with me um I've never had a conversation with LeBron about anything else other than LeBron. That's it. When people ask me how somebody is, well, man, what's magic like? What's magic like with me or what would he be like with you? What's LeBron like with me or what would he be like with you? That's all I can speak to. I've never asked LeBron one question about any other player. We talk about shoes. We talk about, you know, Nicky Naxter. great game blah blah blah I shoot him you know text DM blah blah blah hey he shoot me back that's it that's it I don't know what his relationship was with Russ I don't know what his relationship with his Stephen A when Stephen A and I talk about LeBron it's on camera we were debating a topic about LeBron that's it he'll tell you I don't talk about LeBron that's it

33:31Shannon Sharpe:if he feels that way, hey, I don't know. I can't tell you guys how Russ should have felt. That's how Russ felt. Russ felt like he was saying one thing publicly. He was doing something else privately. That's Russ' experience with LeBron. Stephen A felt he was saying one thing. Stephen A said, hey, I know for a fact it's gotten back to me that he's trying to do things to try to prevent me from getting my money. I don't know. what y 'all want me to damn I don't have that type of relationship with any professional athlete so I can be the defendant one way or another I don't like I said people are like oh you're on LeBron the payroll well hell I wish over the last five or six months they'd been shooting your boy or something I sure could have used it but no

34:32I get

34:33Shannon Sharpe:listen I've dealt with that because oh oh yes yes was a character that I created just like Dave Chappelle created all those characters just like Eddie Murphy created all those characters

34:54Shannon Sharpe:anybody that knows me knows what i am like off camera yeah i'm quiet i am i am the most outgoing introvert you're going to meet i have an outgoing personality when I'm out and about, I know how to mingle. But for the most part, I would prefer to be home, secluded by myself. Yes. Everybody. Everybody that knows me know Ocho was a character. Yeah, same. Everybody knew that. Just like they knew Ocho Cinco was a character. Mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, that's fake. Like, bro, come on.

35:46Shannon Sharpe:If I rock with you, I rock with you. If I don't, I don't. If I don't rock with you, I ain't going to be. If I don't rock with you, if we're at somewhere, if we're at an event together, hey man, what up bro, how you doing? It ain't none of that. I don't rock with you, I don't rock with you.

36:09Shannon Sharpe:That's how it is. And there are people that, you know, you were cool with once. everybody is not going to have a you're not going to have a lifelong relationship with everybody that you come in contact with there are people that you met in high school ocho that was that was that was as far as that friendship was supposed to go people that you met in college that was as far as it was supposed to go people that you met in the league some people you meet for six months. Bro. Damn. Some people here for a season. Just a season. That's it. And you got to be okay with that, Ocho. You got to be okay with that.

36:52Shannon Sharpe:And look, like I said, I don't... Man, what's LeBron like? Man, I don't hang out with LeBron like that. I go to the game. We talk. I've got invited to a couple of events that he put on. Some I was able to attend. Some I wasn't. Hey, man, how you doing? Met Savannah. Hey, Savannah, how you doing? Met his mom, blow. Same thing. Kevin Durant, mom, if I see her somewhere, like, we best friends. But I don't know KD like that. I don't know any other. I don't know any professional athlete like that. None. Zero. And I'm okay with that. I'm cool. I'm cordial. I'm respectful. But I keep it moving. I don't know what y 'all want me to have some intel.

37:31Shannon Sharpe:I was never at LeBron's house or anything like that. I don't know him like that. I don't know anybody like that. I'm not a go to people's house. Ocho,

37:4514 years in league, I went to Ray's house. On the 08, the one on the water?

37:52Shannon Sharpe:No, when he was in Baltimore. I went to, I used to go to a teammate of mine, Reggie Johnson. his girlfriend Mo the one that had to cook I used to go to his place he's like hey Mo cooking tonight come over we go over play cards roll dice whatever the case may be and I went to Burns house we go you know if I go to a guy's house go downstairs we rolling dice on the pool table I ain't that's not what we did growing up as a kid so I was never those guys that just go over to people's house and hang out That ain't me I'm thinking my time in Cincinnati I was always at P. Dubb house When I first got there I was always at Peter Warwick house Outside of that Because I knew Dubb Florida boy Down in Manatee I already knew who he was He was someone I looked up to And respected as a receiver And I hung out at Dubb house That was it I didn't really go to nobody else's house now hell I didn't go to Carson house till hell but maybe three years ago that's my first time going to Carson house we filmed something with NFL films that was it I didn't go to nobody's house you know everybody in the league just got we can look teammates we can be friendly we ain't got to be friends I ain't that type of I don't really like going to people's house anyway I'm having something oh okay who cook it I don't care what you having who cooking so

39:37Shannon Sharpe:but it seems it seems like man when it rains it pours you know you know Stephen they said what he said and now this is coming out would I be surprised if something else come out because once people have once people have the cojones you have Stephen A Now you have Russell Westbrook And then other people are going to have their stories as well Yep None would probably hold That's generally how it works None would probably hold the weight Of two individuals Like a Westbrook that is well respected Or Stephen A Who I'd assume is well respected But it's going to happen It's going to happen

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40:38Shannon Sharpe:Finally. All right, Ocho. Here's our pick for Flex. Play ahead tomorrow's NBA Tiff-Off. Alfreem Sungun. More than nine rebounds. Yeah. Yeah, he'll get double. Yeah, he'll get that. Chet Holgren. Combine 24 points and rebounds. Wait, 24? Who they play? Oh, they play the Rockets. Damn.

41:10Shannon Sharpe:It's ring night. Yeah. Okay. So if he have 16 points. So it's just points and rebounds. So he needs to have 16 points, eight rebounds. What the average last year?

41:28Shannon Sharpe:the staff won 225 I won 75

41:40Shannon Sharpe:Steph Curry gonna have more than half a point Luca will have more than 47 and a half combined points rebounds and assists oh he going over that Shingun will have more than 9 rebounds that's 23 I'm going under I'm going under

42:05Shannon Sharpe:I think it's going to be Shea and J-Dub so I'm going under so I'm going Shingun to have at least 10 rebounds Chet to have less than 24 points and rebounds combined Luke could have more than 47 points, 48, 47 and a half points, rebounds and assists. So when you combine his points, rebounds and assists, it'll be more than 47 and a half. And Steph Curry would definitely score more than a half a point.

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43:07Shannon Sharpe:Jimmy Butler said all the chaos in Miami last season paid off. And he's glad to finally be a part of an organization with no hidden agendas. all that noise all that chaos paid off in a major way i'm lucky to be a part of this phenomenal organization everywhere starts off great but then you know someone has to be the bad guy and it gets to be me i'm always one doing something unbearable all of a sudden but that's okay i get to play in this wonderful league with an amazing with amazing teammates but keep but being here they've only got one goal to keep hanging those things up on the wall. Ain't no hidden agendas.

43:48Hey, what'd you think, Ocho? I'm not sure what's going on internally. You know, with Jimmy, obviously we've heard the stories on the way Pat Riley runs his organization. He's not been in no matter who you are. No matter who it is. So I guess that would be somewhat maybe part of the hidden agenda, but the agenda is not hidden. It's known.

44:08Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you already know, Pat. It's going to be It's always been his way. But let me ask you a question. Chicago, what happened in Chicago? I don't know. I wasn't there. Okay, what happened in Minnesota? Oh, yeah, he didn't want to be there. Okay, Philly, I think he wanted to come back to Philly. Philly wanted Ben Simmons because they thought Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid was a better match. Okay, fine. I ain't got no problem with that. You went to Miami, no state taxes. You got your money. damn Jimmy you knew first of all if that man didn't accuess to LeBron who won two league MVPs went to four finals two final MVPs you thought what?

44:56Shannon Sharpe:Tell me what you think you didn't stand a chance he took that man cookies I wish somebody would take my cookies I don't care who he is you are not the authoritar get my cookies back Clay boy yeah I don't look whatever I bring on that plane that's mine don't F with it whatever I bring look okay if you don't want to have them serve food but if I bring it on there that's me don't let it be what if they were freshly baked too freshly baked in the... I don't care if they're in the five-day aisle. They hard as bricks. They mine. Ocho, you don't play with nobody's food. I don't know where they do that at.

45:50Shannon Sharpe:Hey, maybe... I don't play with nobody's food. Hey, you know, hey, you go eat that and touch somebody. I don't play them games like that. I don't do that. I don't know. Pat Riley might be part of the mob. I don't know what Pat Riley but I tell you you have a different mindset when I guess basketball players have a different mindset if you don't want to serve I've been in situations we lost and we didn't get lunch you had to go out and get our own lunch so you had to go to McDonald's or Burger King whatever the case may be I get that but let me bring my lunch and be in my locker and that's why ain't nobody boy please

46:41Shannon Sharpe:we're going to have a tussle for this yeah so I don't know D-Wade told a story I don't know if they they used to bring cookies on the plane for the players or LeBron had brought cookies for them to warm up I don't really know he said LeBron should bring his own Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, like I said, I don't know, I don't know if like they said, nah, ain't nobody getting no cookies. Okay, fine. That's their cookie. Yeah, I've been mad too, fine. But if it's my cookies, I brought them. I said, hey, because, you know, a lot of times, don't you, it used to be, you know, you'd ask the flight attendants to bring you stuff and they would bring it.

47:31Shannon Sharpe:you know, you give them a couple of dollars, shoot them a couple of dollars, a couple of extra dollars, get what you need, they bring it on the plane for you. Man, please. I'm happy. Look, at the end of the day, everybody should be, where they work, they should be happy. Now, it's hard. I mean, everybody ain't going to be happy on the job because everybody ain't happy to be working at that job. Everybody don't get to do what they love, Ocho. we got an opportunity to do what we love. We love playing the game of football. It was a kid's game. We got played a grown man's salary to do it. Everybody's not working.

48:10Shannon Sharpe:Bet nine to five, they're like, I can't wait for this day to be over with. I ain't never think that. In my 14 years old, I never thought, man, I should be glad when the day over with. I enjoyed getting up going to work and never set an alarm. I ain't never had an alarm. Love it. but to each his own i'm glad look jimmy i'm happy that you're happy and uh at the end of the day you with steph and draymond y 'all got a great chance you get comingo back he stayed let's see if it works out for everybody hey wait oh definitely said he got no big They got Draymond. What? He undersized, though. Who? Draymond.

48:56I was going to say them making a run. I said they ain't got no damn big. No.

49:04Shannon Sharpe:All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q &A.

49:20Shannon Sharpe:uh Deshaun Allen what's up Uncle Ocho give me your top five players who had the best dance celebration two Ocho Ocho Ocho and Ocho top five dance Victor Cruz I'm going number one you got to see Victor Cruz salsa uh who dance that's like that's hard to remember man I mean you gotta I mean T.O. gotta be in there somewhere. Yeah, T. T didn't really do any dances, though. Maybe when they played the Baltimore Ravens and he hit that goddamn Ray Lewis, that shit was funny as hell. Hey, that joke was funny, bro. T.O. It was. Antonio Brown did a Miami dance we got here. Yeah. That was funny. Who else? What about OBJ?

50:19Hey, OBJ got some good ones. OBJ, OBJ. He did the Thriller? Michael Jackson. Yeah, I was going to say that. We did the Michael Jackson. It was really dope. Trying to think who five would be.

50:31Shannon Sharpe:You like the Icky Shuffle? Yeah, Icky Shuffle's cool. That's iconic. That's iconic. That's my five.

50:40Shannon Sharpe:I like what they do now. I like when the teams, they'll be rowing the boat or the Vikings or the Dolphins or Detroit. Man, did you see? I like the group celebration now. Did you see Jameer Gibbs in Amar and Raw tonight? Oh, yeah. With Superman. You're going to say, bro, he hit the Spider-Man. He dove over the top of it. This man jumped like Superman. I'm like, hey, them boys funny, man. Them boys funny. That was funny. I did. I did see that. That was cool. That's all right. El Prey saying, hey, Uncle Nocho, start bench cut. First, Michelle Indigo, Cello, Maxwell, Mississippi Mass. squad. Hey, I can say.

51:18Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you got Diego Maradona, Edison, Savannah, or Fabio Cannavaro. Well, I'm starting. I'm starting by the donor. Oh, man. Man, look here, Ocho. I'm sorry. Michelle Indigo Cello. He's not over the Mississippi Mass Choir. Ocho. Oh, boy, you tripping, boy. Listen, when you go to bed tonight, make sure you say a prayer. Now, I know. Hey, listen. Well, you know what? I'm cutting Diego Maradona. I'm cutting Diego Maradona. Uh-huh, my boo. You heard me. Wait. Hold on. Wait, wait. Listen, Maradona is a legend in his own right in comparison to the other two. I know who Maradona is, the Argentine. Hey, Mississippi Mass Choir.

52:11Don't let nobody hear you say that. I know the Mississippi Mass Choir. Don't let nobody hear you say it. But you don't, Ocho. Don't do that. Come on. You remember the song I told you? I know. I heard it. I remember the words. I got it. I got to say it in my library. But we talk about Mississippi Mass Choir. Yeah, come on, man. We talk about Mosey Burks, the legendary. When I rose this morning, I ain't tired yet. Come on, man. Stop playing.

52:42Shannon Sharpe:I'm sorry, Ocho. I got to start Michelle. I got to bench Maxwell. Are you cutting the Mississippi Mass choir? Oh, man. Hey, boy. Boy, if, hey. Father, forgive me. Boy, you tripping. Boy, you are tripping. Nah. Only Messi might be. I don't know. I think it's close between Messi and Maradona and Argentina. Well, obviously Messi is... But he did win the World Cup with the handball. Yeah, but listen. Messi is a great... I was old enough to remember. You don't remember. I did the hand to God. I remember that. Remember? Yes. I forgot what year that was. I think it was 86. Yeah. I mean, obviously it should have been a call.

53:40It was a clear handball, but a Messi is is how you

53:50Shannon Sharpe:first of all Ocho how you put think about it how you put Maxwell Michelle Edigo and Cello and the Mississippi Mass Choir you gotta have James Cleveland Shirley Caesar and the Mississippi Mass Choir or the Mighty Clouds of Joy or the Alabama Defy Blind Boys anybody that grew up in the church or knows about gospel music, even with the comparisons of Maxwell and... No, so you get soccer players and then I get R &B and Neil's soul in a gospel group. Hey, listen. Mississippi Mass Choir come before any and everybody. Any and everybody. No. Now, if you want to give me the Mississippi Mass Choir, the Mighty Clives of Joy, James Cleveland, Shirley Caesar, you want to give me something like that now I can make a okay but you're going to give me two neo soul and then you're going to give me a gospel group El Pracet Ocho when was the last time you visited Paula and Granny have you heard or got that confirmation you've been waiting from your two angels I'm glad you asked me that I haven't been in a while since I talked about it I haven't been in a while I'm going to go tomorrow because tomorrow is my off day.

55:12I'm just getting back in town. And that's tough. That's tough. That's tough visiting that site, especially waiting on that sign. Ain't got nothing yet. A lot of people say, oh, you see. They've given you a sign. You just don't see it. But I'm so routine and where I do the same thing daily, anything different than what I do or any message I may see. I haven't gotten it I haven't gotten it Give me Mahalia Jackson What you know about Mahalia Jackson man Come on man What you know about the upper room

55:50Shannon Sharpe:Need all that Texans offense can block 8 against 4 And still lose the battle somehow like WTF garbage coaching And talent combined equals Texans Blocking Yeah there was some time I was like bro Y 'all got two guys On one guy and let one guy run scot free through.

56:12Shannon Sharpe:Brea Carter said, y 'all need to change the pie from morning cap to morning cap or late night cap because starting at 1.30 for us on the East Coast, y 'all need to blame the NFL. You make it seem like we wanted to come on. I got a flight I got to catch in the morning. That's the NFL's fault. Bible Patel said, where all those people glazing Baker Mayfield for MVP. He overthrew receivers all night. He had a bad night. Sam Donald had a bad night too. And that's going to happen.

56:49Shannon Sharpe:That's going to happen. I mean, look, every MVP has had a game where he didn't look like MVP.

56:59Shannon Sharpe:TS Carwashing Detail Service. Say what happened to Mike Evans, Unk, or Ocho. Have you ever stood next to Yao Ming, Bo Bo Wimby them some tall humans I have not all of those guys that you mentioned are taller than Shaq I stood next to Shaq so I think y 'all mean is like 7 '6 I think Wimby is like 7 '5 I think Bo Bo Bo Bo is like 7 '2 I thought for a second I thought he said Manute Bo because I think Manute is like 7 '7 what's that guy name Oh.

57:41Shannon Sharpe:Mamadou Njot. That's his name? He likes, yeah. Remember the guy we saw at the fight? Okay. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were sitting down? Yes. I think he likes seven. Isn't he like seven, seven?

58:02Shannon Sharpe:Saw your car, Ocho. you remember Josh Cribbs as would say that Joker could move yeah he was he was a returner for the Browns one number 16 yeah Josh was nice oh yeah Mr. Righteous celebrating my 20th birthday with nightcap here is hopefully to many more Mr. Righteous yes happy 20th birthday almost almost can um get you a drink but you can't just yet. Wolf hat facts. Ocho, I know you got an eye for good eats. When you go to San Francisco, what Michelin star restaurant do you recommend? Man, Ocho ain't eating no Michelin star. Ocho think Michelin is tires. And the only Michelin I know is tires. Shoot.

58:54Hey, bro. I don't eat like that, bro. I don't eat like that, boss man. Truly, truly don't.

59:04Shannon Sharpe:Mario Chiquito, what's up, Ogun Ocho? Love y 'all. Ocho, I need you to put a good word in over at EA to show some love to JSN Madden rating. Rock running should be 99. I don't know what his overall rating is. Yeah, we're going to get him together. We're going to get him together. And we got a few people we got to get together. Not only him, we got to get J.C. Horn together. We got to do something with Jonathan Taylor. We got to do something with Jameer Gibbs. there's a few quarterbacks especially Daniel Jones we need to take care of Daniel Jones oh yeah yeah we need to we need to get some touch-ups on real quick uh David Jones oh I know everyone jokes about Trent Dilfer but he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback he's not Elway but what are some of the positive things you learn from him look Trent knew what he was he didn't try to be John that's not what he was uh he knew where to go in football.

1:00:01Shannon Sharpe:He studied very, very hard, and guys got open. He got them to football. That's the thing that I love most about Trent, is that he knew what he was, but he also knew what he wasn't.

1:00:18Shannon Sharpe:Tim's Bed said, I got my Shea by LaPortier to celebrate my birthday on the 22nd. Do y 'all think it's time for the Cardinals to start thinking about making a switch at quarterback because Kyler can't make it through a full season. Small man. When big men land on small men, things happen.

1:00:42Damn.

1:00:43Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it's just hard to be successful. I mean, long-term success, Ocho, Super Bowl. I mean, Kyler's what, 5 '10", 200 pounds? I think, you know, same thing with Bryce Young. He At least Kyler is kind of sturdy built. And he fast. What do you call him? Bryce's thing.

1:01:13Shannon Sharpe:Bria Carter thoughts on Brandon Graham unretiring. They needed a pass rusher. Z, Zedaria Smith retired abruptly. They thought they had a guy that could help. Hey, I don't think they're done. Hey, reach out to see if the Raiders will let Max Crosby go. Oh, that's not fair. Yeah, I'd try.

1:01:40Shannon Sharpe:I would try. Who else got somebody that might be, you know? Ooh, that wouldn't be fair. Could you imagine? Mm-hmm. Hey, I called Cleveland. Hey, what y 'all want to do with Miles Garrett? Y 'all ain't doing nothing with him over there. He ain't gonna win. Yeah.

1:02:02he got his money he already got the contract yeah he got the contract now go somewhere where you can

1:02:08Shannon Sharpe:win we'll have facts uh what is it going to take for the ravens to come back alive i can't do this anymore lamar jackson gonna have to come back and the defense is gonna have to play considerably better than what they're playing currently and i don't even know if that's possible

1:02:32Shannon Sharpe:That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you guys. It's nights like this. We really appreciate your support and staying up. We know it's really, really late on the East Coast. Obviously, there are people still on the East Coast that are up listening and watching us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. So thank you for your support again and staying up as late as you did. NFL, you screwed us tonight. the Seahawks beat the Texas 27-19 Detroit beat Tampa 24-9 but hey we got to do what we got to do Ocho he's Ocho please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from make sure you check out Shade by Laporte if you can't find an estate or city near you order it online.

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Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Green Bay Packers vs the Pittsburgh Steelers being this weekend Matt LeFleur says this game is not about Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson has been caught liking videos of TikTok about Stefnaski being fired, Deshaun Watson gets caught liking TikTok’s about Stefanski being fired, and sources in Cleveland think that Shedeur Sanders will play this season and much more!

0:00 - Packers vs Steelers game isn’t about Aaron Rodgers
5:00 - Deshaun Watson caught liking TikTok’s about firing Kevin Stefanski
6:50 - Sources say Shedeur Sanders will play this season
10:30 - Rams first team to have same day International flight and win
19:30 - Russell Westbrook on LeBron James being “Fake”
30:42 - Play or Fade
33:27 - Jimmy Butler glad to be part of an organization with "no hidden agendas" 
39:30 - Q & Ayyyyy

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