Nightcap Hour 2: Sports Illustrated TOP 5 NFL QBs: Where's BAKER MAYFIELD? + Shannon Sharpe 4th BEST 7th ROUND PICK?!

10 Oct 2025 · 1 h 14 min · 28 chapters

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In short

Sports Illustrated’s NFL QB top-5 list (Josh Allen #1, Patrick Mahomes #2, Matthew Stafford #3, Lamar Jackson #4, Jared Goff #5) and a debate over where Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones should rank; plus a viral “blind rank seventh-round picks” segment and discussion of athlete scrutiny/social media, including Chris Jones’ low-effort criticism and a Bengals QB trade.

Guests (and backgrounds)

Shannon Sharpe (former NFL tight end; Hall of Fame career; appears as the main sports voice). “Ocho” (Shannon’s co-host/partner in the conversation; former NFL player, referenced as having played in the league and discussing “back in your day”). Jamar Chase is quoted briefly about the Bengals acquiring Joe Flacco.

Key claims

Baker Mayfield should be top five (or even higher) based on first five weeks; Daniel Jones also deserves near the top. Jalen Hurts at #14 is “appropriate” because of role/asked-for offensive output. Chris Jones’ “teaching point” after a game-winning TD shows the microscope on elite players. Social media creates constant criticism and memes; athletes need thick skin.

Notable examples

Baker Mayfield’s early-season performance; Hurts vs. Sam Darnold/Daniel Jones/Drake May/Jordan Love; Deebo Samuel’s seventh-round blind ranking list (Julian Edelman, Bo Jackson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, etc.); Chris Jones’ Jaguars play; Micah Parsons/“Facts Over Feelings” rant about Deion Sanders covering modern receivers; Bengals expecting Flacco to throw for ~400 vs the Packers.

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Chapters

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NFL QB Rankings Discussion

1:19 to 1:46

Analyzing Sports Illustrated's NFL quarterback rankings and debating Baker Mayfield's position.

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NFL QB Rankings Discussion

3:23 to 8:17

Analyzing Sports Illustrated's NFL quarterback rankings and debating Baker Mayfield's position.

“whatever list this is and whatever it came out, If it's basically done so far up to this week in the season, week five or week six, whatever.”

Debate on Player Rankings

9:45 to 14:01

Continuing the conversation on NFL player rankings and discussing the impact of historical performances.

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Discussing NFL Draft Picks and Historical Context

14:01 to 19:46

Listen as the hosts debate the legacy of seventh-round NFL draft picks and their historical significance in football.

“Are you based on what could have been or what actually was?”

Discussing NFL Draft Picks and Historical Context

20:06 to 20:23

Listen as the hosts debate the legacy of seventh-round NFL draft picks and their historical significance in football.

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Criticism in Modern Sports vs. Past

22:44 to 28:04

The hosts discuss the evolution of athlete criticism with the rise of social media and its impact on performance.

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The Impact of Social Media on Athletes

28:04 to 36:56

Learn how social media scrutiny has changed the lives of athletes today.

“Everybody that has a phone and have a social media account, their former NFL, NBA, MLB player, their former coach, their former general manager, their former B.”

Shadour Sanders and the Rookie Experience

36:56 to 41:28

Discover insights from Shadour Sanders on the excitement of rookie progression in the NFL.

“You do have a level, like some states, it only matter if the person that's taping you, recording you, know that that's happening.”

The Reality of Competing in the NFL

41:28 to 42:00

Explore the competitive nature of the NFL and the adjustments rookies must make.

“My key work, as long as I can punch my code in at that gate and it slide open.”

Navigating Draft Expectations

42:00 to 45:00

Discussing the challenges and realities of NFL drafts and team expectations.

“man I ain't never sat the bench yeah man I'm playing special teams mm-hmm I'm taking all the refs that the starters don't want to take.”
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The Power of Perspective

45:00 to 45:50

Insightful quote on the narrative control in the NFL.

“Until the lion has thumbs the hunter will always write the story.”

Reflections on Longevity

45:50 to 47:28

Conversations about life, aging, and the desire for a long, fulfilling life.

“They're paying Jameis Winston,$2.2 million.”

Health and Independence

47:28 to 49:44

Discussion on independence in old age and the desire to avoid being a burden.

“Maybe also with my health and being in the right state of mind, I would love that.”

Bengals' Quarterback Situation

49:44 to 51:18

Analyzing the impact of Joe Flacco joining the Bengals and team dynamics.

“That's why, man, Ocho, I had surgery on my hip.”

Debate on Deion Sanders' Legacy

51:18 to 54:48

Controversial opinions on Deion Sanders' ability to compete with modern receivers.

“trying to make this work amid a trying season.”

Understanding NFL Speed

54:48 to 56:00

Diving into historical context and speed comparisons in the NFL.

“And y 'all don't even know shit about pain.”

Discussing Legendary Players Across Eras

56:00 to 58:20

The hosts debate the capabilities of legendary NFL players in today's game.

“I was in the league with those guys I'm talking about was in the league.”

Personal Experiences Against NFL Greats

58:20 to 1:01:50

Ocho shares personal anecdotes about facing legendary players during his career.

“For one, you ain't going to have no check, or you're going to be suspended, one or the other.”

Top NBA Players and Championship Metrics

1:01:50 to 1:05:30

The discussion shifts to basketball, debating top players and how championships factor into rankings.

“All you got to do is just enjoy what you're seeing.”

Evaluating Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's Legacy

1:05:30 to 1:07:50

The hosts evaluate Kareem's impact and legacy compared to other NBA greats.

“See, I don't think Kareem get the credit he deserves.”

Engaging with Listener Comments and Reactions

1:07:50 to 1:10:05

The hosts read and respond to listener comments and questions about various players and teams.

“Biggs, like, well, if Magic or Oscar didn't get Kareem the ball, Well, if this guy didn't get Shaq the ball or this guy didn't get this guy the ball, be it Will or Mr.”

Eagles and Phillies: A Season of Disappointment

1:10:05 to 1:12:09

Discussion revolves around the struggles of the Eagles and Phillies, with fan reactions and sentiments.

“jackson dart is captured yes they see hope in him yeah Yeah.”

Favorite Foods and Personal Stories

1:12:10 to 1:14:25

The hosts share their favorite foods and engage with fans, discussing personal anecdotes.

“Uh, fans, New Jersey said NFL, LOL, LOL, lose to the Saints four days later, beat the Eagles.”

Track Dominance and Historical Context

1:14:26 to 1:16:44

The conversation shifts to track and field, particularly around dominant athletes and historical records.

“happy marriage saucy d say when shakari gets back to top form do you think her and melissa can have the same dominance Shelly Ann and Elaine had?”

NFL Insights and Team Strategies

1:16:45 to 1:19:56

The discussion transitions to NFL strategies, team performance, and player evaluations.

“some of my fine money outside of that that's pretty much it Chad what time is it in the states?”

Sports Media and Player Dynamics

1:19:57 to 1:24:01

Exploration of the influence of media on sports and player dynamics within leagues.

“Do you think AJ Trade Talk happens next season if the Eagles keep collapsing this season?”

Discussion on NFL Teams and Performance

1:24:01 to 1:25:11

The hosts discuss NFL team performances and insights into player strategies.

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Upcoming Match Predictions and Farewell

1:25:23 to 1:26:14

The hosts share predictions for upcoming NFL matches and sign off.

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2:27Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, after five weeks, Sports Illustrated has dropped their NFL quarterback ranking. Here they are. Josh Allen is number one. Patrick Mahomes is number two. I'm only going to do the top ten. Matthew Stafford is three. Lamar Jackson is four. Jared Goff is five. Dak Prescott is six. Baker Mayfield is seven. Justin Herbert is eight. Jordan Love is nine. Drake May is ten. Okay, just for the sake of art, we'll go through 15. Daniel Jones is 11. Jaden Daniels is a 12th. Sam Donald is 13th. Jalen Hurts is 14th. CJ Stroud is 15th. Bo Nix is 20th. Jake Browning is 30. Can I be honest with you? Yes. I'm not sure when they made their list, but Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield belong somewhere near the top, along with Josh Allen.

3:17Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we're just talking about this year, Baker Mayfield got to be in the top five. Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen, whatever list this is and whatever it came out, If it's basically done so far up to this week in the season, week five or week six, whatever. Yes, for sure. Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield deserve to be on the top of that. Somewhere Sam Donald needs to be in there as well. Yeah. If we're just baking it on this week, I'm not so sure that Baker Mayfield shouldn't be won. We're not talking about, look, we understand what Josh Allen has done. We understand what Patrick Mahomes has done.

3:52Shannon Sharpe:We understand what Matthew Stafford has done. and we know the MVPs that Lamar has done. But if we're basing it on the first five weeks of this season, those guys haven't outplayed Baker Mayfield. I'm sorry. And y 'all know how I feel about Patrick Mahomes, and I love everybody that they got ranked. But they have not played. There are not six quarterbacks playing better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie. I don't care what your fan base is. I don't care if you're Bill. I don't care if you're Chiefs. I don't care if you're the Rams, Baltimore. Baltimore, there are not seven, six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield.

4:29Shannon Sharpe:They're not. Hell shit. Or Daniel Jones, for that matter. No, they're not. He's a surprise. I didn't know. I could be one of them. I was a culprit, you know, who felt he wasn't going to succeed. Yes. I just felt he wasn't, based on what we saw from him in New York. And for him to come to Indy and do what he's doing, I'm like, man, what in the world? He done flipped the whole script in the AFC side. He's playing phenomenal football, man. So I want to be the first to say I apologize and I was wrong. I told you he was going to start. The guy that's the incumbent guy, the incumbent starter, which is Richardson, is making$4 or$5 million.

5:11Shannon Sharpe:They bring a backup in making$14 million. And you think the guy that's making$14 million is going to be on the bench? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That wasn't likely. That's not happening. Ocho, with the game that you just watched, do you think Jalen Hurst is ranked appropriate at 14? Ooh. If you – listen, we're not talking – he won the Super Bowl. He's Super Bowl MVP. Right. Based on what you've seen through the first five weeks of the season, has he played better than Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Drake May, Jordan Love? Has he played better than those guys? Glad you put it that way. I'm glad you put it that way.

5:47If anything, you know what? He's appropriately ranked. he's appropriately ranked based on what they ask of him to do offensively what they ask him to do offensively where the numbers are not going to be like any of those guys that's that's ahead of him so what he's asked to do he is appropriately ranked right where he is

6:07Shannon Sharpe:if that makes sense all i know is they're not sick they're not six quarterbacks that's currently play in the quarterback position better than shake and bake they're just not what you call him shake and bake they're not look and look we know patrick mahomes is the most accomplished you know three super bowl three super bowl mvps you know he's been in the super bowl five times he's been in the afc championship every year that he's been a starter he's never not been in the nfc AFC championship game. We get all that. Lamar, the two-time league MVP. Josh Allen, the one-time league MVP. Matthew Stafford led a team to the Super Bowl.

6:49Shannon Sharpe:I get all of that. And kudos. Those guys accomplished that, and you can't take that away from them. But I'm sorry. Those guys are not playing the position better than Baker Mayfield is playing the position. It's just that simple. That ain't got nothing to do with what he might do moving forward. They said the first five weeks, that says after five weeks, Sports Illustrated dropped their quarterback ranking. So they're saying after five weeks of this year, 2025, nothing that happened 2024, going back. Nothing that's going to happen week six moving forward. They said the first five weeks of this season, Baker Mayfield's played better than everybody.

7:25Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And he has. And his record is just – they only lost one game. Josh Allen lost one game. Patrick Holmes, I don't know what they – Lamar Jackson is 1-4. Matthew Stafford, I think they've lost two games. Jerry Gossett lost a game. Dak, I think they're 2-2-1. Yeah. What about the Colts lost one, right? Colts lost one, yes. Yeah.

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9:23Shannon Sharpe:I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

9:51The declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered, sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals does also have this darker history to it.

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12:27And the guy goes, what are you doing here, coach? And Joe just goes, yeah! And you walk in, and it is bananas. I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's not my thing either, but we're here. When in Rome. Top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody. Listen to Paul's Best Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

12:51Shannon Sharpe:So, that's why I'm out. Ocho, there's a video going viral tonight that the staff wants us to react live to. Here's Deebo Samuels asking his rookie running back teammate, Ja 'Cory Krosky Merritt, to blind rank seventh-round draft picks. Let's take a look at this video. We got plenty of NFL greats that was drafted in the seventh round. I'm gonna have you blind rank. Shannon sharp Julian Edelman To Bo Jackson one Ryan Fitzpatrick three rock party He say Shannon sharp folk What's it with a film at three? I should say three I might be small Minimum three now that your list is over is any name on here that you would exchange Nah, I'll probably keep it like that.

13:43Yeah. Who you think has your change on that? He don't know Shannon Sharp. So he said Shannon Sharp should be up higher. He should minimum be three. He should be about two for real. But you know, you young, you don't know too much. You hear me? That Bill Young, huh?

14:02Shannon Sharpe:You heard me? Hold on. Are you based on what could have been or what actually was? Because of all those guys on the list, only one got a gold jacket. you you on you hear what i just said huh yeah okay he probably only thinking of me in this space what i mean yeah bill don't know huh he don't know if he knew he just he knows the name shannon sharp based on the show based on what you've seen on tv but he doesn't understand the game what comes behind him with that name he didn't know because there's no way soon they said your name it should have been first uh but oh joe even when i came in the league when you came in the league at 24 at 20 i mean well hell i had been in league three years at 24 uh but i'm solo bro i'm just like do you not know anything i mean do you like football did you not follow the game of football he's a young oh joe he's 24.

15:01nah because you're 24 i mean you followed the game back then You don't do the history. That's what I'm saying. Everybody, all of them not like that. Nah. I was like, that man got Fitz Magic in front of me.

15:16Shannon Sharpe:I was like, damn.

15:22Oh, man. Hey, you know, matter of fact, you know Fitz Patrick out here too. Didn't he do the game tonight?

15:31Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. I didn't see. I didn't see. I don't watch the pre, I don't watch half. That's my time to go take the dogs out, let them handle their business, get anything, you know, take the trash out because the trash is coming, collect the trash tomorrow. That's my time to do all that. I don't watch nothing. When I turn the TV on, no show to watch a Thursday night game, they're kicking the ball off. Yeah, okay, I got you. I got you. It's so funny. You know, I'm playing a flag football game tomorrow where I won't embarrass us. I will put on for nightcap to make sure we have something to talk about.

16:05I should have scored maybe five, six, seven touchdowns. Oh, for the flag football? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many of you going to score? Probably five, eight, five, eight, five, eight, because, you know, I don't get an opportunity. This is my Super Bowl. This is basically my Super Bowl. I always talk about how to do things I've never done before, and so I have to pretend like I'm back in the league. And I might be auditioning for another job next year. You never know. You never know. Another job doing what? Getting an opportunity to play in the league again. Fitzpatrick is the quarterback on another team.

16:40That's why I said that. I'm wondering if he's still – Who is your quarterback? Diana. Diana. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to take a tape right now. I just had it right here in front of me.

16:56She's a really good flag football player. Oh, okay. So she plays flag football. Yeah, Diana Flores. Okay, okay, okay. Destroying, you know, destroying. Destroying is on my team and speedy.

17:11Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, he used to be the guy. He was a kicker for Central Florida, right? Yeah, he produced a lot of content. Yeah, I got it. As a matter of fact, you know, you watch MMA. Of course you watch MMA. Yeah, Michael Venom Page is on the other team. Okay. I'm thinking about, like, before I beat James Harrison ass, I'm thinking about a tune-up with Michael Venom Page. What do you think? Yeah, I think that would be good. Yeah, so lump him up first and then deal with Debo. Yeah. How do you think that's going to go? Not good for you.

17:48Shannon Sharpe:That's how I think it's going to go.

17:54Shannon Sharpe:That's how I think it's going to go. But no, if you say seventh-round draft picks, if you want to say what could have been, who's the best athlete, well, that's both. Both will win it. But they said, who's the best seventh-round athlete? I mean, the best seventh-round NFL player of the group that he listed. Now, there might be somebody that's in the seventh round. But boy, I don't know. I like my chances. Yeah. I like wide position. I like him too if you know your history. History of the game. You know your young pup. He's a young pup. He's a young pup and doesn't understand. He has Debo talking about where should I have him ranked.

18:36Shannon Sharpe:Well Debo should have said well if you don't know where you should have him ranked I can't help you. I can't help you. I don't know. Like I said I don't know a whole lot of seventh rounders that's in the hall.

18:51Shannon Sharpe:Brady's in the sixth. Brady's going to be like I said I don't know. but it ain't very many seven-rounders that's come in the NFL that's had a better career than what I had. Like I said, I don't know all of them, Ocho, but there ain't been many. Because the draft used to be 20 rounds, so I'm sure if we go back to the 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s, you might find one. But it ain't many. It ain't damn on that list.

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19:25Zach, nice vacation spot, but without T-Mobile 5G home internet, I feel so cut off. It's scary. Relax. Just breathe in the woodsy-woodsiness. Zach! Don't open it. It's a monster. I just know it. Buddy, it's just our DoorDash driver delivering our T-Mobile 5G home internet. Here you go, guys. Thanks. Look, Donald, now you can get the fastest 5G home internet with same-day delivery powered by DoorDash.

19:52Shannon Sharpe:And it's easy to set up. See, nothing to be afraid of. We're saved! It's scary how easy it is. Get T-Mobile 5G home internet delivered the same day. Powered by DoorDash. Just$35 a month with auto pay and a voice line. Plus taxes and fees. Same day delivery for most internet eligible customers. See if it's an option during checkout. Fastest according to Ookla Speedtest based on Speedtest intelligence data. Second half 2025. All rights reserved. I'm Manga Shatigular, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.

20:42I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you, and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain. That's incredible. As opposed to his brain. Here's some hard truths.

20:55Shannon Sharpe:I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

21:23The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it.

21:35Shannon Sharpe:Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence in the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawadon, Jalakayetli, Gayla, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

22:43is as good as Rami Malek as Freddie Mercury, and it's as good as Timothy Chamillai as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out. I don't know if it's five, six for Best Actor. 150 % this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely, positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to I Am Rappaport on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I Am Rappaport Podcast.

23:41Let's talk about the best moments that we had on the road. I would love a cocktail. Dude, Joe could get last row middle seat on a Southwest Airlines flight. Joe, how was your flight? It was great. The guy on Penn State, we were on the field, and the player thought Joe was his former coach. And he hugged him. He hugged him, and Joe just went with it. And the guy goes, what are you doing here, coach? And Joe just goes, man. And you walk in, and it is bananas. I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's not my thing either, but we're here. When in Rome. Top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody.

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24:22Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, just days after his most embarrassing moment of the season, Chiefs pass rusher Chris Jones addressed why he didn't give maximum effort on the Jaguars' game-winning touchdown. Jones says, it's a teaching point for me. A little adversity. I can't think the play is over. It's a learning lesson. I thought it was over. I thought we had him down. So I kind of stopped and was about to celebrate. Then I realized he wasn't down. Chris Jones is one of the core leaders of the Chief, and to see him take a playoff in that situation doesn't seem real. It does sum up. But for me, I thought they were going to let him score.

24:56Shannon Sharpe:That's what I would have done, Ocho. That way, hey, let them score right now. I need maximum time. But I think it kind of off guard that they was passing the ball instead of running it. so I mean maybe maybe CJ and I'm looking at this is me thinking for him right because it's hard for me to believe that I saw it in real time I'm like damn CJ but I I thought that and maybe they did think that they were going to run the ball and I think they were a little surprised that the Chiefs passed the ball um but in a situation like that you know you can't assume he knows that I mean he He knew that, but now he really knows that.

25:37Shannon Sharpe:And, you know, obviously Andy had to talk, Red had to talk to him. It's just not a good look. And he knows that. You're talking about one of the premier deep tackles, a three-time Super Bowl champ, a multiple-time All-Pro player. He's probably, he's more than likely going to be the All-Pro defensive tackle of the 2020s. Can't have that on your resume. Right. Like you said, it's a teachable moment. I don't think we'll have that issue with CJ again. Yeah, I mean, listen, you think about how many are 65 snaps. I'm not sure how many play on defense. All of them, all of them aren't 100 % effort, but you can't look like you did on that play.

26:19No. You can't look like you did on that play. There's a microscope on you being who you are. Aaron Donald's no longer playing, so you are considered widely as the best defensive tackle. in the game. So there's a camera always on you from every goddamn angle.

26:34Shannon Sharpe:You're absolutely right. Jones also said his social media accounts weren't deactivated as an attempt to avoid criticism. Ocho, back in your day, we didn't really have to deal with social media 24-7 to Twitter, you know, viral takes. Do you think athletes in today's game face more criticism than they did in years past? Absolutely. Absolutely. Because not only you have to do with the media you have to deal with the fans as well now before the fans the fans had no way of having access to you you didn't have to see it you just have to hear it either on radio or on tv now you deal with much more way more criticism and they critique you way more when you don't play well or things don't happen or or you get hit hard or you fumble the ball you got to deal with it from everybody and all the social media so you have to have thick skin You know, you have to have thick skin, especially to be a player in this era, especially to be a great player in this era.

27:29It has to go one hand out the other. You have to be able to ignore it. At times you have to be able to laugh at yourself and laugh at your mistakes in order to continue to function, you know, at a high level. And whatever respect of craft it is you're doing, just not football in general. You know, whether it be, you know, you're a rapper or you play football, you play tennis, everything is everywhere now. You know, you become a meme and sometimes you got to take the jokes for what they are and you have to laugh at yourself and pick yourself up, touch yourself off and just go again.

28:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, there's no question about it. Everybody that has a phone and have a social media account, their former NFL, NBA, MLB player, their former coach, their former general manager, their former B. down yeah so now everybody has an opinion and you can see this opinion show up in real time you're absolutely right ocho with the you're not getting away with anything there was a time that the media would see a player doing something right and it would never make the news it would never make the papers that ain't happening now no it's not happening if they see you do something it's getting reported because everybody wants to be first everybody wants to break the story.

28:45Shannon Sharpe:It's like he's going to get out anyway. So let me be the first to get it. So there is no longer that bond that used to be between the great players and the reporters. That's over. And now everybody has a camera. So you can't do, even if you wanted to get away with something, for the most part, it's hard to get away with stuff now. Because just think about it. Jordan going out the night before and playing and gambling. Boy, that was going to be on Look at Michael Jordan before he played in the Knicks. This Michael Jordan at the blackjack table, y 'all. What's going on? Yeah. Cameras everywhere too now.

29:24Everywhere. The funny thing, knowing Jordan and how he was, his mannerisms, his persona in general, man, he wouldn't give to you know what. Oh, absolutely. Why you think you don't see his ass out now?

29:37Shannon Sharpe:Well, he really can't be out. He couldn't be out. Jordan hadn't been able to be. mike jordan since he was at unc yeah the moment he hit the league he was a wrap and did that it was over right yeah and willie and when he got those red and black shoes it was good night irene yeah it was a wrap it was a wrap yeah think about ocho he could he's really michael jackson they've really never been able to enjoy i mean you got to rip the whole movie theater you want to go out to a movie you got to rip the whole theater out you want to take this kid skate you got to whip the whole the whole skating rink out i couldn't live like that it would be hard everything is everything is everything is on the microscope just imagine how everything how everything looks so big on the microscope that's how you look in the public eyes now that i don't mind i don't care i don't care about the microscope because what you see is what you get what you see is what you get i don't i don't play a character and this is just me but the whole not being able to go anywhere i'm too sociable i i love conversing with people i love i love seeing people and and hugging and saying you wouldn't be that way if you was that you don't think so well you can't be why you couldn't be like that with that kind of money boy people will get you oh oh you're talking about the money the money wise okay okay yeah What person you know that popular Don't have money Hold on I got money now What you saying Not like that Okay Buddy chop your head off I got a question What can Michael Jordan and LeBron do That I can't do Go to the mall Go to the mall Go to the mall They can't do that.

31:46Shannon Sharpe:We just talked about it, man. What you can't do. You can't go. But that's what you have to be able to do if you're a Jay-Z. Where's Jay-Z going to go? Where's Beyonce going to go? Where's Taylor Swift going to go? You think Taylor Swift can call up her girlfriend? Girl, let's go to the mall. Girl, let's go get us a drink. where they going? Yeah, I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I've always been accessible. I don't care how big I get, which is probably why God would never bless me with that type of wealth because he know damn well I'm going to be at the mall. He know damn well I'm going to be at the McDonald's drive-thru.

32:25He know damn well I'm going to be at every soccer game I can get to. It's not happening. He know damn well I'm going to still be on my grandma's porch in Liberty City and have everybody driving around to see if I'm sitting out there. I can't.

32:37Shannon Sharpe:You might be out there, but you're going to have security, and then you're going to be up in the box. You ain't going to be in the stands. It ain't the same. When you go to a sporting event, especially – You're not the same. You look at that through the prison that you're the same. You're not the same. You can still have some of the same friends and y 'all, but they come to you. Right. They go someplace, they take the whole island over. You see, most of the time, you see him, where do you see him at? On the yacht. When you see Jay-Z, how many security do you see with him? How many in that detail, that security detail, when you see Mike?

33:18Damn.

33:19Shannon Sharpe:That's your life now, Ocho. That is your life. It's private jets. It ain't no more spirit. It ain't no more in the airport. It's not anymore that. Oh, so you're telling me if I reach that type of wealth, I can't fly spirit no more? You're not flying that. That sounds good, but you're not saying that. You're not going to be worth a billion dollars, five billion dollars, 10 billion, 30 billion dollars and apply that. You're not. That's just like you don't buy the same. You buy Chrome Hearts. You see what you spend your money on? And I guarantee you, when you were younger, you're like, ain't no way I spent this much money for a car.

33:54Wait a minute. I didn't buy Chrome Hearts. That was a gift for my baby.

33:59Shannon Sharpe:Hey, so everything that you got is a gift from your baby. The watches, that jewelry, that Cuban, that house you got, all that gifts. Oh, no, no, no. Exactly. You see how you move accordingly to the resources? So just imagine, I gave you two. You were$2 billion. Right now. Okay. Okay, let's reset. Let's hypothetically speaking. Okay. You were$2 billion. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So tell me what you think I'm not going to do. You're not walking You're not walking in a regular airport You're going to fly private Because you have the kind of means to fly private And Because you're not going to run You're not going to run the risk You're a high value target And I know why you think Everybody is your friend When you get that kind of money You build up a lot of enemies also Damn You think I got enemies right now?

34:58Hell yeah

35:01Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely Absolutely. And the more money you get, the more. The more you get, the more. Dissension, dislike, jealousy, envy. But but I'm along with it. I'm a likable person. You could ask anybody in the world. What big is a more money, more problems. He didn't say more. He didn't say more money, more friends, more money, more problems. Right. Right. That you're right. But I just don't understand how anybody could not like me. I want you to get a billion So that's the only way I'm going to get my 5900 back Huh? That's the only way I'm going to get my 5900 back if you get a billion Not really, I get to you not But I told you, as long as I owe you You'll never go broke I just see it's better suited in my hands As opposed to yours So you drawing interest on my money I ain't drawing interest on your money But I just got your best interest You see how that works?

35:57Shannon Sharpe:I can show you that 5900 man I got you. I got you. I got a few bills I need to pay. What you need to pay? Ain't none of them 5 ,900, though. Hey, I can loan you something if you need it. Oh, you going to loan?

36:13Shannon Sharpe:So you owe me, but you willing to loan me money. You going to loan me my money. Chad, how that makes sense? Chad, this man just told me he owe me money, but he going to loan me my money. listen I ain't gonna loan you the money that I owe you I'm gonna loan you some money oh you will pay me and then loan me extra yeah yeah okay okay nah I'm good yeah but I think I think I think everybody in our chat understands the level of scrutiny that these athletes face today the older athletes didn't have to didn't have to worry about that they didn't have to worry about that they didn't have to worry about their business because if somebody wanted to tell your business where were they going oh oh he had recording somebody's phone call you're having somebody having cameras you know coming in and out hey i'm seeing a lot of that lately i'm seeing a lot of that lately not not not sports blade in general but i thought that was a federal offense i thought it was a felony and and recording someone it all depends on what state you're in oh okay california yeah they tell you they tell you up with that you can't record uh uh now a call you and someone's now you have no no no no leg to stand on right in a public setting for privacy you can't be out the park until my man don't feel me no you can't be in the airport talking about don't film me you do have a level of privacy in your own home.

37:53Shannon Sharpe:You do have a level, like some states, it only matter if the person that's taping you, recording you, know that that's happening. Other than that, so it all depends on the state. It varies from state to state. But this level of criticism and scrutiny that guys, Serena and the women's athletes and the men athletes today, it's not even close. Even Mike said it. Mike said he don't know how he would be able to function with this social media. No. Shadour Sanders says he's excited for other rookies who have played and been playing through them. Let's take a listen to what Shadour had to say. Anytime players that I came in with and that I spent a lot of time with, they get moved up and they're able to have a vital role in this offense and this piece, I get extremely excited for.

38:50and I'm, you know, I'm playing through them. You know what I mean? I'm excited just as them every time they get out there and run around and everything. Because it's just amazing that, you know, you start somewhere and then you're able to evolve and get to a different level and go out there and actually execute it. Just like Dylan, like whenever he got moved up to QB1, I'm like, you know, that's lit, bro. You got to make sure you handle everything the right way and, you know, just continue being him. So, like, for me, overall, I'm just happy. I'm excited that everybody is living their dreams, you know, and I'm living my dream also to come every day and be able to work.

39:32That's dope.

39:33Shannon Sharpe:I like that. That's dope. That's dope because I got that same feeling. I got that same feeling in general. Now, the circumstances are a little different. I was a second-round pick, you know, and I went in and TJ was there. We were both rookies. and watching TJ get his shine because he learned some of the things a little bit before me. So he got an opportunity to get in there and do some things a little different. You know, it might not have been the game, but just say it's practice. And I was excited. I was living vicariously through him because, oh, my goodness, we made it to the league. We done left Oregon State.

40:02And, boy, you had that shine. And, boy, you just beat the starting DB. So I'm hyped. So to see him get the opportunity to be in there and just get his feet wet with the ones was awesome for me. And it took me a little longer to get myself in the groove before I got my opportunity with the ones, you know, especially in practice before I saw the light of day in an actual game. So I get exactly where he's coming from. So to go to war, to be in meetings, to see all the work you put in turn into fruition live on game days at one o 'clock is a wonderful sight to see. And it's easy to be happy for someone, especially a competitor that you're competing with for a starting spot.

40:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that, but, you know, he worked out with Cam Ward. So he has a relationship, you know, the banter that they had going back and forth. So I'm sure he's extremely excited. Dylan is there, although they played the same position. They're like, hey, bro, you get an opportunity to go in and do your thing. Yeah. You know, you root, you know, you root for you guys that, you know, I want to see you do well. I don't want to see you fail. I don't, I don't want anything to happen to Dylan. But if I have to go in there, if that's how I got my start, that's how I got my start. Right. And I just love his attitude.

41:17Shannon Sharpe:I just love the way that, hey, I get to live my dream. I still get to come to work. Hey, as long as they tell me I got a helmet and I get to put some cleats on. Good. My key work, as long as I can punch my code in at that gate and it slide open. I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He wants to start. He wants to play. who doesn't want to that's any competitor yeah that's what you should want to do you shouldn't be playing at the highest level in general absolutely yeah I mean at first I thought you were like man I made a team but then you started looking around you're like hold on man I ain't never sat the bench yeah man I'm playing special teams mm-hmm I'm taking all the refs that the starters don't want to take.

42:13Shannon Sharpe:Basically. Basically. Ah, nah, hell nah, this got to change. And so, but I, like I said, I'm excited. I'm happy for him. Yeah. That he understands that, look, it's not going the way I envisioned it. I thought I would get, look, started with the draft. For me, Ocho, once the draft happened the way it happened for him, it happened to me the same way i'm like man ain't nothing ain't ain't no givens now where i thought i was going to get drafted how i thought i was going to get drafted so what makes me think now that i got drafted and self-drafted i'm gonna go to a team and i'm gonna be able to play right away all right listen you understand the game you saw the game they were playing at the draft so you understand the game that they're playing now nothing has changed Nope.

43:02Nothing can change. But what they are waiting on you to do, they're waiting on you to fold.

43:06Shannon Sharpe:They're waiting on you to say something crazy. And then they're going to talk about, see, that's why. That's why. Because they used to know where he said he didn't want to go to Baltimore and sit and blah, blah, blah. See, that's why. You should. Look, everybody, look. For me, you, Ocho, we happy. I don't care where I went. I just wanted to get somebody to draft me. Give me an opportunity to play. I don't care if they had 12 tight ends. I don't care if they have 15 receivers. Guess what? They got 16 now. Yeah, absolutely. And that's the way. But that's him. You know, I have for the longest time on Charles, like, man, I wouldn't have did it like that.

43:45Shannon Sharpe:Right. Somebody wouldn't have did it how I did it. Mm-hmm.

43:52Shannon Sharpe:So all I know is, like, when I speak, I'm talking about, like, when it comes to winning and trying to keep the locker room together right there's certain things that we family and we family there's a lot man i i ain't know he like his brother i ain't know his they didn't talk yeah because that's family they keep it in house i look at us the football team as a family whatever dissension that we have on show whatever whatever we have going on right let's keep it in time we can get we can work it out yeah absolutely and that way we can control the narrative. We can control the story. Once they get out, Ocho, they're going to write what they want to write now.

44:31Shannon Sharpe:I got the pen. Ocho, they tell me until the lions have thumbs, every hunter will be glorified. He writing a story. Until the lions have thumbs, every hunter. Boy, that's a bar. Hey, that's a bar. ain't got no pin and pad in this goddamn hotel here in goddamn London. What? Until the lion have thumbs and wait, yes they do. Hold on.

45:07Stop playing. What? That's a good one. Now, I remember it too. Until the lion has thumbs the hunter will always write the story. The hunter will always be glorified. Glorified. Okay. Because he's actually writing the story. Boy, I'm going to use that in my next argument. Hey, listen, it probably had nothing to do with the situation, but when I use it, if I can just get it to think for a minute and stop, that means I won.

45:40Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, the Browns are currently paying eight QBs. They're paying Deshaun Watson$35.9 million. They're paying Jameis Winston,$2.2 million. Dylan Gabriel,$1.1 million. Joe Flacco,$999 ,000. Shador Sanders,$955 ,000. Bailey Zaffi,$315 ,000. Dorian Thompson-Robinson,$171 ,000. Kenny Pickett, they paid him out of the front pocket,$8 ,000.

46:19hey listen as that's that's that's light that's light that's light the only the only thing on there that that kind of kind of kind of would hurt was Deshaun not being able to be out there and and play and contribute making that that that kind of money um things didn't go well I'm curious to see what's going to happen next year when he is healthy and he's able to come back and contribute what happened to that starting job. I'm sure because his salary is so high and he commands so much of that, damn, what do you call it? Salary. I think he might be the starter next year, you know, especially if he's healthy.

47:06I just – that's 35?

47:09Shannon Sharpe:36 million, 35.9. Oof. hey boy oh Joe we got some breaking news Loyola University of Chicago has announced that sister Jean Delores Schmidt has passed away at the age of 106 March Madness never gonna be the same you know every year when the team make it you know she was there in a wheelchair Jean and boy that's a life yeah that is a life hey 106 that's a blessing boy yeah do you know how much you've seen over a lifetime to live a hundred years a hundred man would you want to live that long only if I'm healthy and I'm in my right mind I don't want to be a burden to no one if I become a burden no right right no I don't want to be a burden you know what I would love I would love because of what I know now and it's amazing that I am in society and in the era of technology and as advanced as it is, I would love to see what it's like 50, 60 years from now.

48:22I would love to be here. Maybe also with my health and being in the right state of mind, I would love that. Yeah. If I'm a burden. My kids promise me, don't put me in a home. Don't you put me in a home. And I know my kids might be watching right night y 'all put your daddy in the home i tell you what i'm gonna come down i'm gonna come down here

48:43Shannon Sharpe:i'm gonna haunt you yeah i'm gonna haunt you as a ghost yeah i don't i don't want to be you know i don't want to be hooked up to no machines let me go hey your daddy late hey your dad had a great life your brother you know they they i've already given everybody instructions so they know what to do but no i don't want to be i don't want to be a burden right i never want to be a burden and uh i want my kids uh to to live their life and not have to worry about dad and can't live their life your dad lived his life y 'all know what to do you you've been instructed you know what to do yeah but i want to live as long as i can i can do for myself ocho i'm in my right mind yeah and i'm not a burden yeah i like it i like it i don't i don't i don't do good as a burden.

49:36Shannon Sharpe:I don't, I'm irritable. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I just am. I'm not a guy that does well hurt when I'm injured or stuff like that. I don't do well. That's why, man, Ocho, I had surgery on my hip. Yeah. I got to that morning. I got home at one 30 two o 'clock. I was in the driveway walking with my Walker.

50:02i just hey hold on doing everything you're not supposed to be doing basically hey i got a i got

50:08Shannon Sharpe:a i'm gonna i'm gonna get i'm gonna i'm gonna speed up this recovery time that's what i'm gonna do i'm not gonna be dependent i don't i hate depending on people ojo right especially you know like i understand but i don't i don't want to be a bird i don't like well can you do this for me i I hate that. I hate it. So I don't know, but no, I don't. So, Oh, that's crazy. Long as I got my right mind on Joe, everybody that my grandmothers, all my grand, my grandparents, although you had all their right mind. My grandma was 80, 89 years of age and she had a right mind. And when my great grandma was 92, she had a right mind.

50:51Shannon Sharpe:So as long as I'm in my right mind and I'm not a bird nocho, and I can do for myself, Shea won a whole load. But the moment that happens,

51:06Shannon Sharpe:that's it. Jamar Chase gives the first comments about the Bengals acquiring veteran quarterback Joe Flacco. When asked how he learned about the trade, Chase T. Higgins initially told him, and Zach Taylor confirmed the news. Jamar says he appreciates the organization, trying to make this work amid a trying season. Ocho, with Flacco finally getting a chance to work with elite weapons, what do you see for the Bengals? Well, what I see for the Bengals, with now Flacco getting elite weapons, weapons he's never had before, and I look at some of the numbers, I look at some of the numbers today based on some of the games that Flacco has played throughout his career, and he's never thrown anything like this.

51:43I say Flacco might throw for 400. Who they play? the Packers.

51:52Shannon Sharpe:How are you going to throw for a hole in and he's going to have no time? Again, you heard what I said. Because the strength of the Packers defense is up front. I do understand that. The weakness of your offense is up front. But that back end is vulnerable. It's vulnerable now. Yeah, I'm just – honestly, honestly, I don't know what to expect. I don't know what to expect because I saw it up close in person, obviously with Jake Browning and him running for his life. where that offensive line he had to deal with playing against Aiden Hutchinson and those young fellas. Hoping, hoping, pride in itself, playing for the name on the back of that jersey.

52:30There's a better showing. There's a better showing from us up front and having some type of pride about yourself and your game because that shit you put now is on film, and people get to see that. You do what you can to keep goddamn Joe Flacco upright because you know what he can do when he's able to have time and throw the ball. And if we're going to have a chance offensively to even compete, forget to talk about winning, compete week to week, we've got to be able to block.

53:02Shannon Sharpe:I'm playing 22-man. For two seconds. I'm playing 22-man because I ain't worried about Flacco going nowhere. Yeah, that's true. That's fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. Ocho, the rant everyone has been talking about. Micah Irving went off on Facts Over Feelings podcast for saying Deion Sanders wouldn't be able to cover these current NFL receivers. Ocho, let's take a listen to what they had to say. The receivers from back then? Might not be prime, though. These guys that he played against weren't that fast, bro. They were stronger, but they weren't that fast. These guys, no? I'd love to see him. I would have loved to see him play against Chad in his prime.

53:40Shannon Sharpe:I would have loved to see him. Oh, no, he's covering me. Jefferson right now in the day. You know, all these different guys. I would love to see him cover Tyree. If prime is who we think he is. Are you shitting me? We are the two most accomplished receivers in the history of this game. When you're talking about the most important things, championships, and your stupid ass talking about running fast, like people weren't running fast back then. Are you shitting me? What the hell are you talking about? I don't even know your name. And I certainly don't know your game. I don't see you every year with a gold jacket in that Hall of Fame room.

54:23Shannon Sharpe:So who the fuck are you to talk about what, oh, oh, oh, oh, Deion Sanders couldn't cover these guys today. Do you really know what you're talking about? You think there were not fast guys in the league when I played? You think Tyreek Hill can outrun an Olympian like Bullet Bob Hayes, who played before me? You must get to run around and play 707 touch football. We had pain in our game. And y 'all don't even know shit about pain. Football's not about running fast. It's not about speed. It's about getting the job done. It's about getting the job done.

55:08Hey, look. Hey, Irv, funny, boy. Yeah, look. Irv, funny. Irv going to tell it like it is now. And obviously back then, I think back then, players were fast.

55:19Shannon Sharpe:Well, Ron Brown got a gold medal. Sam Grady got a gold medal. James Jett got a gold medal. I want to know the current player that's currently playing right now that got a gold medal. Because all those guys, Sam Grady won the silver medal in the Olympics in 84. Time played against him. Ron Brown was on the relay team. Yeah, James Jett ran alternate leg in the qualifying of the 19 Barcelona team in the Olympics. Yeah So I want to know which one of you guys think faster than Sam Grady faster than Ron Brown faster than James Jett I'm moving on He played y 'all say Randy Moss was fast. He played get ready Okay, oh And I don't think hey, we'll see I've see I saw it up close and personal well that shit was different boy Lord have mercy.

56:07Shannon Sharpe:I was in the league with those guys I'm talking about was in the league. Yes. Yeah. Yes. You have to realize there are certain players, time is a player that could have played in any era because he was so extraordinary. Yeah. He was extraordinary. But he wasn't covering me, though. But go ahead. You have to understand. See, people just look at time and they say he's just speed. Time was technically sound. He studied a lot of tape. yeah he gonna make you play to your weakness he gonna play to his strengths and force you to your weakness yeah yeah y 'all didn't go see the play when uh rocket ismail he picked off a deep post from rocket ismail they threw it off his head the one off his head and took it and put the ball up in the air yeah coming back the other way with it like i said i i think the thing is look man these guys they don't realize like daryl green y 'all do realize like daryl green like they didn't keep track of 40 times like they do now ocho that was way back then the combine really didn't start kicking off until the late 80s right that's when the combine because back then they had regional combines ocho if you was in the south you went to a combine in the south you went to the combine in the west you north that's how it was it wasn't it wasn't centralized like it is now.

57:27Shannon Sharpe:But Darryl Green, you know, Darryl Green can win. Rod ran in the Olympics. Rod ran, tried to qualify for the Olympics. He ran against Greg Foster.

57:41Shannon Sharpe:Look, that's not a knock on these guys right here because these guys are phenomenal. And they're phenomenal. But you can't discount just because what you see and you didn't see guys back then and just try to summarily discount them. So I guess based on that, Reggie White couldn't play now. LT couldn't play now. Derek Thomas couldn't play now. Bruce Smith couldn't play now. So I'm trying to figure out who could play in that era. So I guess, you know, John Elway and Dan Marino, those guys couldn't play in this era. Yeah, listen, all those defensive ends you just named right now, and Lauren Taylor probably won the last two weeks in this league.

58:18Won the last two weeks. For one, you ain't going to have no check, or you're going to be suspended, one or the other.

58:24Shannon Sharpe:one of you yeah he got bad yeah oh man he got better y 'all i promise you there was good football played granted the athletes have gotten better technology has gotten better that they have supplementation has gotten better diet has gotten better ocho training has gotten better okay yeah but you got to think about what these guys were working with so that means deon sanders was going to have the training, the nutrition, the supplementation that these guys have. No. Yeah. He had none of that doing what he did. Those guys that you see that I mentioned, Sam Grady and Ron Brown and James Jett, they're going to have the same nutrition.

59:04Shannon Sharpe:They're going to have the same coaching. They're going to have the same that these guys have now. Yeah. Guys. That's a great hypothetical, too. That's why you think guys have gotten faster. Of course, things change. But if you give those guys the same nutrition, the same training, the same, hey, they got red light therapy and saunas, Ocho. They got dip tanks. They got all that stuff. They got all the acupuncture and all the other things. How good do you think they could have been? Much better. Much better.

59:47Damn.

59:49Shannon Sharpe:Rams linebacker Jared Burr said he'd be effing furious if Lamar Jackson isn't able to play Sunday. Burr said Lamar is on his sack bucket list, along with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Ocho, which opponent did you both circle the calendar and look forward to facing during your time? Only one. I want to say I got a block on it. Either he beat me for a sack or I blocked him and he didn't make the tackle. LT. LT. LT was hurt when we played him. I think, matter of fact, you remember Chad, those of you who were in the chat, you remember I made that checklist in 2005 before the season started? You remember that?

1:00:31I remember you making the checklist. I don't remember who was on it. Yeah, I mean, Champ and Fred Smoot and Gary B. I remember doing that. So just that 2005 year, I made a checklist. I put it in my locker before the season started, and I eliminated it. Obviously, with the boxes, check yes and check no. And you have to understand how arrogant and cocky this was of me, but I was just confident. I was confident in the work that I put in to be able to pull this off. So how do you let somebody put your name in a locker and tell them, you're not going to stop me if you stop me one time? That's all I had to do.

1:01:09just stop me one time in the game, you get a yes by your name. I went through that 2005 season understanding there's nobody that's going to stop nothing I do because of the work I put in, not only in the film room, and studying. Training.

1:01:28Shannon Sharpe:Preparing for that season. I went out there and acted a fool that 2005 season. We're checking everybody off. I think I might have lost. I can't remember who I lost to. And that was some very arrogant shit I did. But hey, it's hard to overlap eras. Things were different back then than there is now. But hey, just enjoy. All you got to do is just enjoy what you're seeing. It's not because we don't know. It's easy to say, we don't know. Ocho, it's time we're going to get out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q &A. Each of our final segment of the evening is 6 in the morning.

1:02:11Shannon Sharpe:Oh, my bad. It's my final segment for this evening. Your final segment of the morning. Yeah, I'm getting ready. Howard Bell say, I think it's fair to say Jackson Dart outplayed Jalen tonight. I don't know the Eagles offense just struggling. Sariani might need to take over the play calling. Yeah, he outplayed him. You know, he made more plays with his legs, made a big-time throw. But, hey, it happens. question is eagles do they bounce back we'll see in 10 days ocho yeah damn 10 yeah because they play thursday so they don't play till next sunday okay okay okay oh yeah you're right you're right you're right okay uh cool sharky eagle fans clown cowboys for beating an 0-4 team and eagles immediately followed that by losing to a 1-4 team but hey it's one loss he laughing Go ahead.

1:03:05Shannon Sharpe:Yo, Dutch, to me, Steph shouldn't be in the top 10 before Kobe. So my question to you is, do you think Kobe belongs in the top 10? If so, who you taking out? Ralph Buff, Pats Nation.

1:03:27Shannon Sharpe:So Hardy, some great players.

1:03:34Shannon Sharpe:Ron Jordan, Kareem, Magic. Oh, great. They got room service. Duncan. Wilt.

1:03:54Bird.

1:03:58Ocho. You don't play basketball. I used to. I know I scored 52 in high school.

1:04:12Shannon Sharpe:It's close, man. It's really close. I don't understand. Because here's the thing. This is what I don't get. Half the time when you say championship, they say championship is a team goal. So we disregard championships unless it's for a player that we like. And then we count championships. Right. They always move the goalposts depending on who it is. They do. I'm trying to say, they tell me, oh, that's a team goal. So what are we going to use? So tell me the metric that we're using. Is it, okay, obviously I think you got to factor in everything. You factor in championships, all NBA selections, all-star selections, MVPs, finals MVPs, you know, things like that.

1:04:59Shannon Sharpe:I think there should be five metrics. You just can't say, well, he won the most championships. would that not be Bill Russell? Right. Okay, points. Where are you ranking points? Where are you ranking rebounds? Where are you ranking assists? I think there are so many variables. But for me, I think there are like seven guys. I think LeBron, Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Wilt, Bird. For me, I think they're like, they got to be in the top 10. Now that last three Last three for me Probably come down to like Four players Elijah Juan Shaq Kobe And Steph Damn Damn huh And if you ask Like avid Basketball enthusiasts Their top ten I think Your first five Six or seven Will probably be the same As everybody else maybe just a different order but when it's all said and done what are we going to do with Jokic

1:06:12who are you taking that

1:06:13Shannon Sharpe:Jokic is not done yet Jokic get another MVP I mean another finals MVP another regular season gotta have a conversation huh yes for sure absolutely absolutely

1:06:30Shannon Sharpe:Greatest big man of all time, or no? Nah, I mean, for me... See, I don't think Kareem get the credit he deserves. It's hard, because everybody always overlooks Kareem. Yeah. I mean, 19 All-Stars, six MVPs. Dang. Six. Six. Three with the Bucs, three with the Lakers. six championships, 19 all-star selections. I think he was like a 13 or 14-time all-defensive selection. He once held the record, most points for a career. See, people don't realize how good Kareem was when he was at Milwaukee and when he first got to L.A. Because he kind of took a back seat when Magic came. But go back and look up Kareem's stats back when he got with the Bucs, and you tell me what you think.

1:07:25Shannon Sharpe:33-16 for a season. a season. Yeah, he averaged 33 and 16 for a season. People just... Let me tell you why people discount Biggs. Because they say they need a guard to get on the ball. If you go back and look, most people, tops are forwards and guards. Right. Because we don't need nobody to get them the ball. Biggs, like, well, if Magic or Oscar didn't get Kareem the ball, Well, if this guy didn't get Shaq the ball or this guy didn't get this guy the ball, be it Will or Mr. Russell. Right. So it normally goes to. Okay. I got you. I got you. I got you. Ocho, Oreo Hulam said, free A.J. Brown, man.

1:08:15Shannon Sharpe:Shaking my head. Jason Zeldorf, in Dart we trust. Dart is the man. Shadour who? I love you, Unc, but we coming for your Broncos. The Bengals still suck. oh uh we play i guess we we play the giants play the uh the broncos yeah not the jet yeah yeah yeah we do because we got to uh we just played the eagles they got the cowboys got the cowboys and the giants yeah yeah we're gonna see what y 'all we're gonna see what y 'all put that we're about the jet sunday look i'm gonna say he brought that up oh chow yeah i'm gonna tell you uh chad Jody. Okay. Jody, a.k.a. Baby Boy Cinco. Are the Eagles, Saquon, suffering from Madden Cover Curse or Super Bowl Hangover?

1:09:01No.

1:09:02Shannon Sharpe:I just don't think Saquon getting 10 carries, I mean 12 carries is going to help anything, Ocho. No. Yeah. Madden Curse ain't got nothing to do with that at all. Nothing. Mm-mm. We don't believe in superstition.

1:09:20Shannon Sharpe:Player 4. Player four, player is hurt. Equals that cry, she goes cry. Boy, the Cowboy fans. Anthony Spills say, call Gilly the kid. He was in his feelings. Cutting that live early. Eddie Salgado, let's go, Big Blue. Stop playing with my Giants, man. Watch out, your Broncos next. hey i got damn jackson dart and scatterbow is exciting huh i'm about legit exciting for it to be this damn early uh mattoon university said russell wilson got booed as soon as he put that helmet on real i'm not surprised yeah i'm not surprised don't you damn oh you know how it is jackson dart is captured yes they see hope in him yeah Yeah.

1:10:21Shannon Sharpe:Bria Carter said, I don't know which loss is worth. The Phillies losing the bottom of the 11th on a throwing error to end their season or the Eagles losing to a division rival in a blowout. The Phillies losing on that. Because your season's over. Eagles get another chance to redeem themselves when the Giants come to what they call it. I forget the name of the stadium. But the Phillies, it's over. Ray Cleave said Eagles offensive coordinator shouldn't even be allowed to ride the bus home. I guess y 'all out on Petula, huh? Patrick Rendon said, guys, I'm not sure why freedom pigeons always have a Superbowl hangover.

1:11:03Shannon Sharpe:Freedom. They call the Eagles pigeons, Ocho. But Scott and Dart definitely going to save Brian Dayball's job. Hey, he say, he see a Jackson Dart saving, saving the ball's ass because he was on the hot seat. for sure uh eagle fan the second half implosion i was dreading john in three three oh 34 17 i know you f-ing lines giants put belt to you know what tonight yeah cd scale say what's up mr sharp what is your favorite food to eat when training i look forward to meeting you guys on the tour next year I'm a huge fan. Love. I'm chicken. If you tell me I can only eat one protein for the rest of my life, it's going to be chicken.

1:11:51I can deal with that. Chicken or fish? I can do that.

1:11:54Shannon Sharpe:No, I don't like no fish. I mean, I like fish, Ocho, but fish ain't a food that you can warm up. Fish stink your whole house up. Have your whole house. People come in like, man, what is that? What is that? Yeah, especially if you leave it out. Uh, fans, New Jersey said NFL, LOL, LOL, lose to the Saints four days later, beat the Eagles. That's the NFL. Yeah. Cameron Mayo, as an Eagle fan, is looking more like 2023 season, just falling apart earlier in the season. Independent Aquaman, Packers, Ravens, Bills, Eagles are frauds in 2025. Only the Lions are legit. Plus, refs should penalize Eagles for offensive procedure and offsides.

1:12:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Wolf had facts. Cam and Jax won me 10K tonight. I got you. I got Ocho's debt. Yeah, break me out. Let me go and get that, bro. Let me get that 59. Throw something on the floor for me. Matter of fact, while I'm out here in London, today's my off day. So Friday I have all day free, right? Yeah. I'm going to go to the casino. Not only am I going to win your money back, I'm going to double it. And I'm going to see you by$5 ,000,$10 ,000,$16 ,000,$5 ,000. I'll see you$12 ,000. Good looking, my man. Gerald Lacey said, L.A. smoking Phillies. New York Giants roasting pigeons. Tiki Tech knowledge.

1:13:23Shannon Sharpe:Russell Wilson is fried, died, and laid to the side. Fins, New Jersey. Meg DeStallion. Scatty, Addy, Addy, Addy. Scat Pack. They got all these crazy names. I can just imagine. Jackson Dart, he keep this going. You already know what it's going to be like, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dagnante Cobbins, adversity is a stone used to sharpen your blade. We're going to be all right. In my crying Ocho voice, fly eagles, fly. Dave Ricks Jr. said, Uncle Ocho, love what you do. Kept me laughing through many nights as a trucker. Can you give my wife, DeAsia, and my daughters a shout out and say I love them?

1:14:07Shannon Sharpe:my life is great because they're in it absolutely dave rick's junior de asia um your husband dave junior um he wanted to tell you that he loves you he loves his wife and his daughters and his life is better because you're in it you completely i like that so happy marriage continue happy marriage saucy d say when shakari gets back to top form do you think her and melissa can have the same dominance Shelly Ann and Elaine had?

1:14:43Shannon Sharpe:Ooh. Man, they dominated. Shelly Ann won in 8-12. Elaine won in 16-21. That's a long time. They might be out of it. They got to be there. Ooh. Hold on. So 24. So, excuse me. 28.

1:15:02Shannon Sharpe:8, 12, 16, 20. That's a long time, bro. That's a long, long time. Shelly Ann, I mean, Shelly Ann is just the greatest woman sprinter ever.

1:15:19Shannon Sharpe:So, the likelihood of we seeing somebody follow that up so soon is not likely. I'm not saying it can't happen. But, man, track and field is so, Ocho, you know, one minute you're here, and the next minute you're like, damn. You know who I was excited about? Remember Marion Jones?

1:15:45Unc, your camera done went out. Where you went?

1:15:54Okay, I chat. It's just me and you chat. Unc is having technical difficulties. That's okay. But if you can see behind me, it's starting to be daylight. I'm out here in London. Make sure y 'all tune in Saturday. Saturday. Go to my story on Instagram. Go to my story. Make sure y 'all tune in and watch. I should probably score maybe five, six, seven, maybe eight touchdowns. Nice little flag football game. Have a little fun. Then I'm going to the Bronco Jets game on Sunday. I'm going to sit with my pops. My pops. I'm going to sit with Goodell. Exchange some pleasantries, being that we have such a good relationship.

1:16:30I'm probably going to ask him about

1:16:37letting me get all my fine money back being that everyone can celebrate now and I think I started that so since I started that I think I should be able to recoup some of my fine money outside of that that's pretty much it Chad what time is it in the states? you want to know? Funk you back? We're still not back yet. But, yeah, chat, that's it. Just make sure you all tune in Saturday, and that's pretty much it. Okay? And look at my Instagrams, and it'll tell you what time you get to see me play football again. And they can kind of remind you on how good I actually was because I'm going to be on full speed.

1:17:18Like, for me, this is like a Super Bowl. So I'm auditioning for a chance. Oh, Joe, can you hear me? Yeah, what's good, huh?

1:17:28Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Jordan, I ain't charged the computer up. Oh, okay. Okay. That's what happened? Yeah. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.

1:17:40Damn, it's only 10 o 'clock out there, Unk?

1:17:45Shannon Sharpe:Yep. Damn. Oh, here we go. Oh, true and infamous 73. I don't think it's the players offensively. Is there an OC Kevin Petula? He hadn't been able to figure out what to do with the talent he has. That might be the case. Well, then I guess Sirianni needs to take over the play calling. David Moses, Giants all day. New Jersey, baby. Super Bowl. Here we come. Damn. Super Bowl. Saucy, one more question. I think Sydney can 100 % do it, but I think it's going to be double. 2028 would be a lot of running. Six, 400 meters. More than that. I mean, yeah, you're right. Qualifying, semifinals, finals. I thought it was four rounds.

1:18:29Shannon Sharpe:Is it three rounds or four rounds? You got to do this. You might be, yeah, that's a lot. But it all depends on how much space she has between. And if I'm her, I want to get the most difficult one out the way first. I want to get the 400 meters out the way. Dang. How much energy do you exert? Well, you try to pace it, Ocho. You try to burn as little energy as possible. but Paulino Nasser that's good I mean they're gonna be there yeah they're gonna they're gonna be there so I think next year she does the ultimate championships I think if I'm her I try to lower that that uh the 400 meter the hurdles I try to dip under 50 I think she's in she she's in she's in condition she has the she can do it right because you got to think about it Ocho she hadn't run 48 she's at 47 ain't no question in my mind she can go under 49 she can go under 50 put it out there like that flojo record damn that's what I do nobody gonna get it no time soon I mean 1049

1:19:49I mean

1:19:50Shannon Sharpe:until what you call them I mean Elaine Thompson Harrell was the first woman to go sub 10-6 other than so she went 10-54. Yeah. That's still 5-10s. 6-10s. Do you know how fast that is? Yeah, I do know how fast that is. For a woman? Absolutely I know how fast that is. Platinum made these. Do you think AJ Trade Talk happens next season if the Eagles keep collapsing this season? And if it make it, don't go far in the playoffs. Yeah, I can see. Look, would I be surprised even if they went far in the playoff, they don't do something about this? Probably. Probably. James Tilling has, Shannon Dodgers feelings couldn't have ended in a more anticlimactic fashion.

1:20:37Shannon Sharpe:Was scared when pages hit right into the picture. Pressure, man. Pressure. He could have easily, hey. Emma Gregg, Shannon Ocho, Lillian, Emma, made it to school with no issues. In fact, she seemed pumped this AM. I would say. Shout out. Glad to be here. Go Cowboys. Well, we glad Emmy waited to school. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Okay, guys. Take your pick. Jodeci, Jagged Edge. Woo. That's a good one. I'm going Jodeci. That's a good one. I'm going Jodeci, too, boy. I like Jagged Edge. I do, too. Jodeci had a traditional run. Can't you see it, Joe? So, Jamison A, if Ocho gets into the hall, you get the jacket until he gives you the $5 ,900 plus.

1:21:28Shannon Sharpe:Let's call it 15 % interest on top. Well, here, I can speed that one up. They not letting my black ass in no goddamn hall. That's why I got my own jacket. You can't find it, though. Go ahead and put your hands on Ocho because he playing with your mud heels. Hey, that's what you don't want. You know my hands registered, right? You heard me? I got something registered too I'm just saying my hands are registered These are lethal weapons Because in order for me to box I had to get my hands registered So once I put these hands on you It's alive and I get locked up And we can't have no nightcap I got something registered too

1:22:10Shannon Sharpe:Will you be at Bronco Alumni Week 7 Versus the Giants Should be a good with Drake Greenlaw Possibly back from IR that's next week ain't it

1:22:26Shannon Sharpe:probably not Bengals should have got Kirk Cousins stop being cheap man they want the Bengals to have a$55 million quarterback an hour and another $40 million quarterback they got a deal where Mike Brown they gonna do that we got the most we got the best quarterback available at the right price.

1:22:57Shannon Sharpe:Sir underscore Cates, my guys, I know it's football season, but if I have, I'd have to know your thoughts on Fred Van Fleet getting injured. Can KD and Sangoon carry the Rockets or do they need a reliable point guard? They need a point guard. They got Thompson. I like them. Look, Somebody got to get him the ball. Somebody got to distribute the basketball. Yeah, we know what Shingoon is. We know what KD is. And Armin Thompson is amazing. I don't even know who the backup hard guard is for them. Fletch, these days, if you do something, the media will have it in the paper before two something. That is absolutely right.

1:23:42Shannon Sharpe:or and plus Ocho you got to realize that TMZ people pay for stuff now oh yeah absolutely ring on McDonald's worker Kaylee Ringo is the newest McDonald's worker Eli can you imagine if Ocho played with Julio in Atlanta

1:24:05Shannon Sharpe:Kyber Sith did the Broncos provide the league blueprint for the Philadelphia Smeagol's no they'll fix it they'll get it fixed but uh they got to throw the ball better than what they throw in it Ocho yeah it's a throwing league it's a throwing league because at the end of the day you're gonna have to throw to make plays thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp that is my partner and co-host he's in London bingo zone ring of fame pro bowler all pro that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson And please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor.

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1:25:23Shannon Sharpe:Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Please make sure you go check out my media company, Shea Shea Media, on all of its platforms. And my clothing company, 84 with 84 pinned in the chat. that the Eagles dominate, excuse me, the Eagles got dominated by the Giants, 34-17, scatterboat, 18 carries, 98 yards, three touchdowns, Jackson Dart was superb, he only threw for one touchdown, but he didn't have any turnover, no, he ran for a touchdown, excuse me, they scored four combined touchdowns, but he was sensational tonight, for the Giants did a number on him, they lose to the Saints but at home put something on the Eagles so Ocho have fun while you're over there watch them Broncos beat up on them Jets I'm up he's Ocho see you Saturday night good morning good morning

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