Nightcap hour 2: Terron Armstead & Cam Jordan talk why Terron retired and is Cam Jordan retiring soon?

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1:53Take the scenic route to Tualatin Valley, and make every mile part of the game. Learn more at etvor.com slash fans. Hey, tell me about ISO Joe hurting himself, because I didn't know Joe Justin was in the big three. No, bro, they really didn't tell me what happened, like the magnitude of his injury, but they hit me yesterday like, man, ISO Joe, is he down? He's not coming. He can't get on the show. Uh-huh. He said, you know, here's the key. I don't know. I don't know what Joe did. He was planning a victory. I don't know the magnitude, but we'd love an update if somebody got, you know, somebody got some news, want to know what's going on with Joe Johnson.

2:44Well, hopefully it ain't bad. Yeah, I hope not. I hope not. Sure. I got a question for you, right? What you got? Because now this offseason, I've been an avid pickleball player, right? You see it like, I'm on this pickleball court. Like, if I'm in New Orleans, three to four times a week. Drew will smoke you. Drew can't throw. Like, he can't throw with his right arm. I'm winning that every time. Drew will smoke you. Pickleball. That's your guy, and that's the loyalty, and I love that. You remember what I used to do to him on ping pong? Just like, let's not bring up the ping pong joint. Like, so pickleball and just ping pong and tennis had a baby.

3:27For two years in ping pong, you was that man. I'm going to give you your flower. I'm going to give you your flower. Here's his good morning football hat. Here you go.

3:37But at the end of that ping pong table, I was the king. I was the king. Because I gave it up. Because I got bored of winning too much. it was a two year stint where I bought a championship belt for any and all open challengers and that belt never left my hill pause and I took the championship like I said this was because I gave it up I was so invested I was running off the practice fields to play ping pong anyways, pickleball, I done picked it up I'm hosting my own down tournament, just know that July 20th, dang that's coming up before, in fact pull up Come play pickleball with me, bro. I'll text you about it.

4:18I'm not playing. Come on. No. All right, fine. Fine. Just know, it's an open invite. In fact, I'm going to invite Drew just because he pissed me off. Drew beat me at pickleball? Just because he owned a couple teams over there, that has nothing to do with what I mean. I can sports back, so Drew will smoke you. We got odds on that? I don't understand the odds. Malik Beasley scared me. Is that what we're talking about basketball? I see that. I say, hey, him, Calvin Ridley, all them Johns, I don't even know what odds mean. Would they be like plus 180? I just turn my eyes. I'm like, I don't even know.

4:54I don't – I delete my app during season. Like, you know, for my little comp stays, delete my app. I don't even want it no more. Malik Beasley's situation is bad. Scary. Scary. No, it's bad. It's unfortunate. I hate that for that man. Man. They took football away from a talented wide receiver for a full-blown year. Yeah. You know, they didn't. Talking about locking Beasley, like he was arrested, I believe. Like it's deeper than just get out of here. It's like a – I believe. Right. I need the fact that – Allegedly. Let me know. I always wanted to say that. I always wanted to talk to the chat. Hey, chat, y 'all let me know, chat.

5:38Chat, let me – That's a very bad situation. I saw an article talking about he owed money to his barber. I said, oh, he in 2D. He in 2D. Not the barber. They're bringing a barber in it? I must be charging OD these days, though, bro. $10 $5 on Wednesdays. This was back when you was in Mizzou and shit. This has nothing to do. No, no, no. You in Dallas, Miami, Cali, fam. You in top three places for expensive haircuts. That's your fault. You come to New Orleans, you still catching a$40 cut. And the$40, you know, really, he might give you$2 for love, but it's$40 because you got it like that. I did not in Dallas, but he put the steam and I don't want no goddamn steam.

6:29Just cut my hair, man. I'm already getting thin up here. No, no steam. Oh, you getting thin? Where? I'm still good. I'm still youthful. No, I would say, bro, I don't believe you. I'm serious. I done caught my first little gray the other day in the beard. I said, I'm 35. This is 35. I round up. I'm 40. Screw it. Man, you've been dying for three years. You've been dying jet black. The only thing I done died is this joint. And I'm not going to lie to you, it may not ever happen again. I like the look. I meant to ask you about this, Cam. What's you doing? Everything good at home? Everything great.

7:02Hey, brother, like, you know, I never not had a new hairstyle. So honestly, I was going to buzz it all. I was going to look like you. I was going to have a nice little fade, daddy. And I was like, you know what? We're just going to cut it all off. Let's have some fun with it. I remember Marcus Dabb bleached his hair a couple years ago. Marcus Davenport had a big old bleach afro looking like a golden baby lord off Meteor Man. But like, I took that and was like, all right. I was like, I don't like this bleach thing. And I just started up the House of Dragons. So I just saw Coralus Valera and I was like, are they black dudes?

7:37I said, yeah, yeah. Get me. I was thinking you was going Dragon Ball Z or, you know, some type of anime. Ultra Instinct? I wasn't. I wasn't. Okay. House of Dragons. Yeah, yeah. And then. I see it. I see it. I know. Look, but the fumes coming off, like, you could fit, like, I've never bleached nothing before. I've never, like, dyed my hair like that. So I felt the heat and the fumes coming off my head. And I wanted to bleach the stash and beard with, like, the fire that was happening here. Hey, what they don't tell you is you're not supposed to, like, wash your hair and, like, scratch your hair before you get bleached.

8:16Like, so I gave myself a deep little, you know, the good roots, the scratch out. I was feeling great. She put that bleach on my boy. What I tell you, I felt that heat, fire layers into the skull. I said, Lord Jesus. I said, yo, it's tingling. I said, hey, it's hot. I'm not, I ain't no hoe, but just know I said, come get me. Hey, this is eye popping. Yeah, I ain't doing that again. I promise you. No reason. Man, hey, cooked. But it came out, bro, silver at first, and now it's sort of like this platinum gold situation. I like doing the silver. that was that was it was fine team pictures now that you made that game of thrones house of dragons ref i see it that reference that i see it that it's fire i had i thought i was gonna have to like damn blink twice if you you feel me i'm locked in the other way i'm like hell yeah we gotta go get it okay come on man i'm gonna have fun with it next year you know next year i might i might just rock a smooth little fade.

9:24Little boozy fade, daddy. The boozy baby wild.

9:33But I might I thought about it, but I said, what if I got one of those hooks in the back of my head? What if I had that? You remember Ben Grubbs? Like, what if I had that type of head? That meat pack. Pause. Well, yeah. Hey, yo. the quarter pounder back there pause man

9:57can i ask you an nba question can we hey i'm so sorry hey i'm just i'm happy to see you my boy that's my fault you'll see my dog in a little minute man i'm retiring in fact before we get the nba what made you really retire because you've been saying he was gonna retire for four years straight i had to i had to go through my process for four years straight and really contemplate everything, take everything into consideration what I was up against. But you know, bro, you was there with me in close proximity and the injuries that I had, the magnitude of those injuries, like the stuff that I did play with.

10:34You saw the whole peck together for like six games. I'm always impressed. I'm telling you. Played with a torn peck. All type of stuff. Yeah. So So my weekly preparation, bro, had become so extensive. It was painful to play with the knee situation more than anything. It just was like, man, can I really commit another year to going through that process every week? Like, can't skip steps or else I wouldn't be able to perform at the level I need to perform. So I had to walk away from the game and, and I would never want my film to be, he stayed out there getting his ass with and never, you feel me?

11:23I can proudly say I could turn up my film from year 12 and I'm dogging people. You feel me? Even though I had one knee, I got beat too. Whatever you're chasing, flex your next with new on plus 12 milligram nicotine pouches, crushing that big Prezzo lock in blowing up a new personal best psych up, Planning the next guy's getaway? Get after it. With the strength to satisfy and the comfort of nickel silk mesh, flex your next with On Plus, the 12 milligram done right. Find a store at OnNicotine.com. Product for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

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14:19That makes zero sense. I get excited. Like, you talking about low-key, overexcited? A backup come on the field? Like, ooh, man, down. Ooh, he was beating his ass. And his backup came in? I know I'm about to. you tell me you afraid of a backup bro give me give me let me block cam jordan let me block von miller miles garrett max crosby trahin let me block them guys because i prepare you know i mean like i got a plan everything you know i know what you're trying to do i know what i'm trying to do yeah when i see a d-line check-in dn number 68 his his his the the the font on the back of his jersey not even the same as the rest of the team he just got there like i am terrified of that man he bought the play so hard because he's got to go back to after like if he get cut by whoever you are whatever team you're on is about to go back and do for a living i have no idea who he i haven't i haven't seen him on film man i immediately go over to the right tackle.

15:26Hey, who's 68? You know him. What do you like to do? Where is he at? Oh, he worked at hand. What do you do? What's cool? For real? I'm asking the right tackle. All them questions. Come on, man. Hey, it's about to give me 19 moves. That you ain't prepared, not one for. Bro, if he beat me one time, I'm going on his highlight. I'm the first clip on his highlight tape for his life. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm cool on it. Yeah. that's what it was for me you see it back up you about to go get three straight sacks no doubt I see it back up he don't know what I'm about to win I might do some shit I've never done before because I know it's going to win and that's where the ghost comes through the ghost mate he can't touch me God is good as I bend the corner I'm already here it's time yeah yeah absolutely I'm looking for a dud I'm sorry we can go to NBA I just thought I had to ask.

16:27Okay. You know, people ask me, like, year 15, how many more you got left of you? I was like, I can play three. I can get to year 17. How many are you going? 15, 16, 17. I can get to year 17, but I need the perfect storm to come up. Like, there's, you know, there's things that I need to see. Does a bad season, a losing season by the Saints, affect your decision to play a 16th year? We know you're getting ready for 15. No. No. No. no not at all there's there's things that i have said in my mind if i don't like what i see or if i don't like you know whatever happened last year i can't i can't do three more years of that that's stressful losing is stressful it's it's right bro no lie hey losing losing that losing like You really start looking like, I got to do this?

17:27Winning? Winning, you can 10, 12, 13, 14 wins in a season. Winning, you're like, that was it? That's the season? For sure. Man, can I get that again? Promise. That is. That's a fact. Bro, it took to a Drew left for me to figure out. Look, I thought a losing season was 7-9. I was like, damn, man. We didn't even break 500. honey? Nah, we got to get that revenge year. I've been officially gone four years without playoffs, big fella. This shit is... This might be my natural color now. This shit's stressful. Losing ain't it. Nah, but if anything, that's what I'm saying. It reinvigorates you because you're like, I can't be in here.

18:09I know what it's like to win. Even if I'm not winning at all, I know what it's like to be deep in a playoffs win. I need that feeling. So I got three, depending on how things shake out, for sure. three. Okay. I guess I can see it, bro. I can see it. Sure. You have, I got all the energy. All right. You got toddler energy.

18:345 AM. I need it. You have toddler energy. So I can see it. I'm high key past my bedtime, but that's been, that's been me since I was like six. You get about, you get about dark, dark outside. Not even time. You get about dark outside. Hey, what are we doing? I'll be honest though I'll be honest though Hey mute your mic Cuz they don't come in here without knocking Hold on Hold on Hold on Big C Hey right on time bro Right on time Yeah I heard y 'all talking about bedtime Y 'all know me bro I be in bed now You know what I'm saying I'm here now though I'm surprised you didn't have the suit on bro you had the good morning football joint on with the suit on I didn't understand the situation I didn't understand the situation I didn't understand what was going to be asked of me but why are they sitting up there like a big cat good morning football season I saw you on there my dog You know what I'm saying?

19:46Just having a good time. Just having a good time, Doug. GMFB, we in the building. You know what you want, Tim. He had that T.I. hat, too. He was right off to the side. That's T.I.

20:05Impressive. All right, so we pivoted to basketball? You want to go back to this offensive line play? Because I'm here for both. No, because then now we got to deuce block you for talking crazy. So, no, we don't have to go there. We don't have to go there. Ten toes down. With that smoke, though, he would go there with you. I'm not. Hey, he knows on any given training camp, we're going to be there every other day, and I'm going to be talking crazy to his off the line. I can't allow it, dog. I can't allow it, dog. Can't allow it, dog. You slant inside on that E.T. and C. Training camp, C's good with me, so he's one of the ones that I won't smack.

20:51You still do it, bro? Absolutely. You still be picking on people in camp, bro? Who am I? Am I supposed to change? Can't be picking on people no more, bro. No more. Verbal abuse, absolutely. Verbally? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, verbally. Yeah, bro. Yeah, he would piss me off. Yeah. If it was my first year on the squad, from when I first got there to now, more verbal. Cam was like, bro, listen, I'm going to give you all this work. But verbally, it's over. Yo. See, me and Cam would do one-on-ones and literally not touch each other. The second left tackle, he is warning him

21:43I respect all my ones, but twos? You're not. Like, ones? It's ha-ha, he-he. Hey, let's make it look good. I need you to win these games. Twos? Twos like a backup quarterback. You are a free game. If I hit you, so what, M? Yeah, that is not right, bro. Hey, you peeped he clipped. Like, he really meant that M? He can't wait to see the backups when y 'all get to California. But he can't, bro. Absolutely. I love it. God dang, I love it. Wrong, bro. I don't need them to win. I need you to win. He's sick, bro. That's not the right mentality. I'll do better. I'll do better. You're right. Okay. Yeah. He's lying, bro.

22:34On your NBA, you got a couple of talks. Yeah, get us to the NBA talk. See, he's been trying to get to the NBA talk for like the last 30 minutes. I just ain't let him. What's going on? I'm flying here, man. All right. Giannis Antetokounmpo is not happy with the Bucs after waving Dame Lillard. What you think about the Bucs getting rid of Dame, trying to get off his contract, and now you have an unhappy Giannis in the building? Unhappy Giannis for the Bucs is bad. No, they just didn't hire his other brother. That'd be fine. That's bad. Nah, I don't know, bro. Because if he unhappy and he want out, he'd come to New York.

23:15You know what I'm saying? New York? Yes. Which New York? Brooklyn. You bugging. You know exactly where he want to go. I didn't. I was asking too. I was like, I was like, you're going to go. Now he want to go where he should be, bro. At the Memphis? Yeah, why not? I mean, if that's what it's looking like over there. Come on over, dog. I do think it's crazy, though, letting Dame go. I do think that's kind of wild. The NBA, the NFL, every now and again, it reminds you. It is a business. For sure. What have you done with me lately sometimes applies. Then you'd be like, what the? Not the NBA. The NBA is a big-ass fraternity.

23:56Them boys don't never let their legends go. Although he's not a legend. He was there for a year. So really, it was a two? He had a catastrophic Achilles tear. Achilles, right? Yeah. So to be released while recovering from the Achilles, I'm sure that was, you know, that's tough. Crazy. But Giannis going, Giannis could be on the move, man. I really like him because I played there, but I love Giannis in Miami with the heat. They can keep Tyler Hero and Bam. I don't really, they can. Dang, say that out loud. I don't really care about everybody else. That's what you said. You know, you got to go into the deal.

24:40Right. If they can keep an outside shooter like Duncan Robinson, that would be perfect. But with Tali Hero and Bam Adebayo adding Giannis, they, to me, become the favorite in the East. Just overnight. Right. Oh, can we just say, like, he could also, you know, if he is that upset, like, you can always go hire one of his other brothers. You know, get Giannis back there. Get another brother, bring him back, make him happy. Like, you can all just hire the other brother, you know? Hey, hey, man. What, there's three brothers? Might be, yeah, three that we know of. You know, like, Giannis is the one that we want.

25:22And then the other brother is like, that's the service of a player that can get you some defense and some points. But your main focal point, Giannis. So, just make him happy. If that is your king, make him happy. You don't already, you know, I don't know the Bucs situation like that because all I care about is the Pelicans and the Suns. But if that's your guy, make him happy because if you want, on the Suns way, we just let go of KD. So, like, you can always go home. What the Suns doing? Man, we can facilitate something. You know what I'm saying? Like, in my mind, we just extended Dev Book. Y 'all didn't even see what they extended.

25:58It was like – Where's Dev Book prime? Man. Waste his prime. What you do? Damn, look, he's like 20 what? 27, 28? Probably about 20. He entering his prime, honestly. He'd be just fine for another four, five, six years. Like, that's fine. He might be 28. He just signed that, you're big, you heard me too, for the contract extension. What are you? I don't know. It was a four for like 200, but then I think they were talking about extending them. So I'm just saying, like, we got Bradley Bill. Bradley Bill needs about 30 touches. He couldn't do that. Like, it was crowded. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it was super crowded.

26:44So now he gone. I like it. I like it. Come on over. I don't know what he talking about. He don't even know which New York team he rooting for. Oh, there you go. He's going to get over the hump next year, Cs, and finally get back to the NBA Finals. Oh, you're talking about the Knicks? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. He don't believe that. Listen, listen. He don't believe that. Damn, listen. Now, with all due respect. Yeah. Emotion. Hey, what the hell he put pause on y 'all this year? You need to relax because your team is the suns. You're speaking on conversations and situations that you ain't seen in a long time.

27:23Three years in a long time. We was just in the finals. But where were your team? listen y 'all were still getting no swabs when y 'all was in the playoffs that's crazy we don't do that no more everybody the arena is packed we're having a great time in the city I'm telling you I'm telling you man every year it just keeps getting better so I'll let you tell you black range over red interior is leading your charge bro that's crazy relax that is crazy that is crazy that's crazy to say relax bro relax guys relax bro that was insane that was insane bro all I know is we good on the sun's way I don't know what y 'all doing to the east coast but we good on the west oh man yeah no one even knows what we're talking about nope Hey, man, thanks for your team.