Nightcap Hour 2: TJ Houshmandzadeh joins and CALLS OUT Browns for preventing Shedeur from succeeding

24:55That's another discussion. Every professional athlete, man, we all had the utmost confidence. like I still feel like right now I can go play in my head. Like in my head, I feel like I can go get it done. Like I believe in myself to the fullest as you, as you do. Chad does as well. We all, every professional athlete has unwavering belief in yourself.

25:21Shannon Sharpe:That's how you make it. That's how you make it. And so to me, that's what you want. And the way, man, the way this dude has handled himself, man, has been unbelievable like you could tell he's been raised right like so many guys the questions they're asking him and the way they're treating him they didn't give him this drive that drive man come on man that dude could have just sunk sat on the bench he didn't do that I'm sure he was disappointed he handled himself the right way on the sideline me and Chad would have been me and Chad would have been throwing our helmets or something

26:02Shannon Sharpe:but the thing is that that he knows who is that he knows no matter where he is the cameras are on him if he's on the sideline getting gatorade the cameras are on him if he's standing there listening to the play being called in the headset the cameras are on him when he's on so whatever emotion he's going through the cameras are going to be on it on him and guess what people are gonna try to deduce what he's thinking what's going on his head you see his body language that's why he was a fifth round draft pick look at the body language ocho you see what happens blah blah blah bro hey great awareness so i'm supposed to he he has great awareness let's go if you look at what jackson dart has done in new york what are they saying now in new york what are they saying man when is jackson dart gonna be starting what week is Jackson Dart going to be the starter.

26:57Hey, you think they want that in Cleveland? They should. They should want it. But they don't because you look, Jackson Dart has played so well. It's like Russell Wilson is about to get Matt Flynn the way he did Matt Flynn. Jackson Dart about to do Russell. Why ain't they giving Shadir the same opportunity?

27:20Shannon Sharpe:You heard that, Ocho? Oh, yeah. You told him that already? I did. I'm telling you. You have to understand. And this is so funny. The people that continue to say we're making excuses for Shadour. And the simple fact that the owner came out and said, this is not the player I wanted. Shadour is not my pick. That alone, that tells you all you need to know. Kevin Stefanski, hands are tied. He answers to someone else. He answers to a higher power. There's a reason why when he's asked about Shador, he has a certain look on his face. There's no excitement. He doesn't say the right things that normal coaches say about players when they do well, even though it is just a preseason game.

28:07Shannon Sharpe:He's the coach. He don't have no say over the Final 53. He got no – Kevin Stefanski does not have say over the Final 53. That's Barry and that's Jimmy Haslam. He hasn't had enough success. That's why – He hasn't had enough success. If he had more success as a coach and with that team, he would have more say-so. A little input. A little input, but he does. But see what happens when you get a job and you haven't had a whole lot of experience. You see, now Ben Johnson, he gets to go to Chicago. He got say over the Final 53. Andy Reid had say over the Final 53. Sean Payton had say over the Final 53.

28:44Shannon Sharpe:Mike Tomlin had say. But when you don't have the kind of credentials and you get a head coaching job, you're happy to just be a head. there are only 32 of these things in the world. You want a 32. And if you happen to get one, you're like, okay, y 'all do whatever y 'all want to do. I don't want to do that. I just want to coach the team. And Kevin Stefanski is just coaching the team. Because all things being equal, me personally, I don't think he would want to carry four quarterbacks. Because as long as Shadour Sanders is on that team, there are going to be questions. There's going to be questions as soon as they start losing.

29:21As soon as they start losing Flacco going to the bench and honestly I believe they really wanted Kenny Pickett to be the starter. Kenny Pickett just couldn't stay healthy.

29:35Shannon Sharpe:See Ocho didn't want to listen to me. And you know what I ain't going to say. I know that for a fact. I was told that by somebody that's in that building that it was Kenny Pickett or Dylan Gabriel. I was told that by somebody that's in that building. Kenny Pickett or Dylan Gabriel. I'm just going to dust. Y 'all go ahead and talk over that. I'm just going to dust. I'm going to dust. Are they even telling you that? Yeah. Listen, you talking about competing in that AFC North? You got to have a quarterback. Look at the quarterback. Look at the quarterback. You got, okay, you got two games against Joe Burrow.

30:11Shannon Sharpe:You got two games against Lamar Jackson, and you got two games against Aaron Rodgers. And now everybody said Aaron is looking well. We'll see. He is 41. We'll see how his body holds up, especially now in the warm. When we you live in a night, you live in California. So it's warm pretty much near around. As we start to get old, there's a reason why people go to Florida. There's a reason why old people go to Arizona. There's a reason why old people live in Nevada because that warm weather. Now you go back and look at Aaron Rodgers in the beginning of the season to play well. And then when it got cold, he didn't play so well.

30:44Shannon Sharpe:But in the two games that he had in Miami, the game he had in Jacksonville, what's the weather like in Jacksonville and Miami? in December. Really nice. Go back and look at the games, how he played. So we'll see when the weather turns cold in Pittsburgh, in Baltimore, in Cincinnati, in Cleveland, if he can stay. But you know, tried and true, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow is going to be able to wheel and deal. So if you're in that division, you've got to deal with those guys. And if you can't beat those guys, you can't go one in what? One in six. Yeah, one in five. And think about you're going to win that division.

31:19Shannon Sharpe:That ain't happening. No, sir. When is the last time Cleveland has had a quarterback that you just spoke of? Like, when is it? Bernie Kozart? Oh, David. Is it that far back? Yes. Like, to me, I want a guy like Shadur. I'm giving him an opportunity. If you fall on your face, you fall on your face. But you getting a chance with me, because if I win with Shadur and I'm Kevin Stefanski, I have a lifetime of security. I'm retiring when I want to retire if Shadur turns out to be that guy that to me is why I don't understand and you made a point he must have his hands tied because why wouldn't you want to go with a young guy because if he succeeds I'm set for life I'm a$100 million coach now easily look I would rather win my way I would rather lose my way than win someone else's way that's another unkism there's another unkism right there chalk him up TJ how many times have you seen coaches let me if I'm going to win or lose I'm going to do it my way there's a lot of times especially in NBA when they want to play the young guys and the coach is like hell nah I'm trying to win and they get him up out of there because somebody's going to come in and play and he's going to do because we try to get a draft pick we try to get Zion Williamson or we try to get Cooper Flagg or whomever so coaches will say you know If I'm going to lose, I'm going to lose my weight.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:I ain't winning somebody else's weight. You do that in the NFL, they're going to be working on somebody's network television. They're going to get them up out of there. Hey, everybody got these great answers. Well, they should do this. Man, look here. I'm sitting up here on TV because I retired. Now, why are you here? You got all these great ideas. who's i'm sitting up here on tv because i retired now explain to me did you retire because if it was as easy as what you're making it out to be you should still be somewhere and and that's why even and everybody hopes to get to be in mike tomlin position andy reed position sean payton position sean mcveigh college that's every coach's dream and the way football is now you better have a guy under center that can fulfill that dream and make it come true

33:52Shannon Sharpe:it's not the way it used to be a bring your defense in a running game i don't care how good your defense is you could have that you could have the 2000 ravens if your quarterback suck you not winning no championship because because i could guess what see because you know why because he's the only guy that you cannot hide. Because guess what? If I got a guy that struggles to get on press coverage, I can stack the formation. I can put his ass in motion. And I can make it difficult for you to press him so I can get a free release. If I got a weak corner, I can give him help over the top. I'll put him in cover too.

34:27Shannon Sharpe:I'll roll protection. I'll buzz the linebacker. I can do things to protect him. I can slide my offensive line one way or another, or I can tell the back to chip his way out. Now you tell me how the hell do you hide your quarterback? Because I'm going to force his ass to make throws. We're going to play Pop Warner football. We're going to press him. We're going to put eight in the box, save him in the middle of the field, and beat us. That's what they're going to do. I'm going to make you throw it. Absolutely. And that's how you get found out. To me, the way the game has evolved, you've got to have a really good quarterback or a great one, and you've got to have some guys on the outside that can get open.

35:07Straight up, that's what football is today That's what it is

35:13Shannon Sharpe:It ain't that hard We make it harder than what it is But it ain't that hard It still played the same way My 11 against your 11 But I tell you what Your weakest 11 Better not be the quarterback I don't care about all that other stuff Your weakest of your 11 Better not be him When you start saying the weak links on offense if your quarterback is within the first five or six you say, you got a problem. A real one. He don't have to be the best, but he better be one of the top three on that offense, top four at worst. And if he's not one of those, you're not going where you want to go. You can't hide him.

35:57Shannon Sharpe:You used to hide him because, look, we run the ball. And guess what? We run the ball 35, 40 times. We throw it on our terms. It's second and one. It's third and one. We catch you off. Nah, they won't let you do that now. Because they've made it so conducive for you to throw it. The way they protect the quarterback. And if you think if I'm going to pay a guy$60 million, TJ, so he can turn around and hand his ball off 45 times a game, you better kiss my butt. You won't throw it. I'll pay you$60 million, and you better have 35, 40 touchdowns, 4 ,000, 5 ,000 yards. I am not turning, paying you that kind of money to hand them all off.

36:40Shannon Sharpe:Now, you're going to throw that thing. You're going to run it. You might have to catch it sometime soon. Because the way in about five years, Jay Daniels is going to get, he getting$80 million a year. Jay Daniels is getting$80 million. He's getting$80 million. CJ Stroud is going to probably get about$77 million. Yep. And that's where the game is going. Because you see Josh Allen. You see what Josh Allen got. and they're just going up and that's where Richardson Richardson was supposed to be he was supposed to be right there he was supposed to be getting up but see what I told him and people are mad you be hating on them I said guys he's been labeled a project his entire career so with a project you don't move in if I buy a building I say this is a project I think if I fix this thing up I think it can be really good, TJ.

37:36Shannon Sharpe:You don't move into a project right away. I got to fix it up. You build it up. Yeah. They say this guy has a project, and you throw him out there week one. What project have they ever done that with? Shannon, they drafted Anthony Richardson fourth overall. Correct. And what did they say when he came out? he didn't start enough games in college he ain't started enough games in the league they not giving him a fair chance when we in school the days that i didn't go and you had a project they didn't give us a project today and say the project was due tomorrow we had about a week or two to complete the project it takes time you got to do your research you got to study they didn't give anthony richardson that time but but but he's not absolved of any blame because you can never never check yourself out of game and say you tired ever you can't do that and when he did that he lost some guys in the locker room and he lost some guys upstairs you can't do that but with that being said he you can't come into the league need an experience and And then when you get to the league, they give up on you before you even get any type of experience.

39:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Hoos, it was him that said the NFL is easier than college. Do everybody remember him saying that? He said that, Ocho. He said that out loud. We should get him on the show tomorrow. He'll take that comment back. Yeah, I don't think, I think he answered too fast. He answered too fast based on what he had seen to date before he did that interview. And he might've felt that way, but it's a whole different ball game. It's a whole different ball game as you can see now. You guys, I played with, I played in an era with great quarterbacks play with a great one. You tell me, have you ever heard Brady Manning, Elway, Marino, So name a great quarterback that says NFL football is easier than college football.

39:53Shannon Sharpe:Just tell me one. Ain't nothing about NFL easy at any position. Especially quarterback, you got to know what the entire offensive line is doing, the running backs doing, the receivers, tight ends. And then you need to know what the defense is doing. Don't worry about the defense. Yeah. Ain't nothing about that easy. Like being a quarterback, you basically going to mad school. You studying to be an attorney. You starting to be a neuroscientist. Like, you – being a quarterback takes so much time, so much commitment, that nothing about it is easy. But guess what? He know now. He know now. That's why I don't feel bad when they want to have – hey, man, hey, they want to drink.

40:36Shannon Sharpe:Hell, I'd be drinking too. Because you mentally exhausted because you're literally thinking. Me, when we're going – hey, I'm trying to beat the guy in front of me. That's what I'm worried about. Ocho, you trying to beat the guy in front of you. He got to worry about, man, I sure hope this left tackle did his job. Man, I wonder if Ocho running the right route. Damn, I wonder if Hoos got up press in the slot. Damn, man, did the bat chip his way out? Did we slide the protection the right way? Oh, damn, I got to throw the guy open. That's every single play for 65 plays. You know, people look at it as they just drop back, hike the ball, and just, that's it.

41:15Okay, okay. That's it. That's how people do it. That's why they talk so much trash from the outside looking in, thinking that the job is easy at that level. And then this is what people don't understand. Ain't no job in NFL. When the quarterback calls to play out the huddle, have y 'all noticed? Just watch the games. They walk up to the line of scrimmage. They look around. They take in their time. They're processing information. They don't get into that cadence right away. They look around. They think, okay, what are they in? And that's what we had. And that's every single play. So they thinking without thinking because you want it to be second nature.

41:53Now I got to just react. And that's where all the study during the week comes from. But they get fooled. You live to play another down. That quarterback position, man, is no joke.

42:05Shannon Sharpe:Nope. And the thing is, is that because he has to remember down in distance, he got to remember area on the field. He's got to remember, okay, time on the clock. I mean, most quarterbacks, they study coordinators because coordinators become head coaches and they bounce around the league. So Peyton Manning probably had a book of all the Rex Ryan was a Rex Ryan was a D coordinator in Baltimore, but he's the head coach in Buffalo at the Jets. Tom Brady, same thing. Drew Brees, same thing. So all these quarter, all these coordinators, guess what they turn into be head coaches. And when they head coaches, guess what they're going to run?

42:38Shannon Sharpe:The defense that they ran with the D coordinator at another stop. so it gives me a head start on what I need to prepare for quarterback is not an easy position I understand why they make the big bucks and I ain't envious of it because I don't know about y 'all but I'm taking some shots that I didn't see and they hurt so imagine just standing there you about to throw the ball and the dude put his helmet right in your back it's a thankless position and that's why I believe they get too much credit when things go well and they take way too much of the blame when things go bad. They take way. It's the ultimate.

43:15Football is the ultimate team game. 11 on 11. Ultimate team game.

43:22Shannon Sharpe:Because, hey, you can play great and somebody drop a pass and then somebody miss a block. It really, sometimes it comes down and you're like, one play don't win the game. Okay, when did that play happen? Yeah, they quick to say that. If I drop a ball and it's at the end of the game, oh, I cost y 'all the game. And we all know that. The leaders on the team are going to say, oh, that play didn't cost us. Like, boy, yeah, it did. Yeah, it did. I'm mad enough to say, yeah, it did. It cost us. I mean, that happened to me in the playoffs. I dropped the ball. You couldn't – Ray Lewis come up to me. Man, that ain't cost us the game.

44:02I said, Ray, yeah, it did. That cost us the game. And that's just the reality of it. one play can cost you a game, but a leader going to say it can't.

44:13Shannon Sharpe:Right, because all plays aren't created equal. All turnovers, a turnover in the first quarter is not the same as a turnover with three minutes left in the ball game. A big play in the first quarter, it doesn't have the same impact as a big play late in the ball game. Plays vary. They have different weight. And we understand that. Look, we all going to say all the right things, but under my Yeah, it did. It cost me. 100%. But that's a good thing about football because we always hope I'll be better next week. I'll be better next week. And then when next week don't come, it's like, oh. When am I going to get my opportunity to redeem myself?

44:59Shannon Sharpe:Because that's the thing about sports is that you always get an opportunity to update your resume. In some sports, it's sooner than others. Baseball, basketball they play every night every other night you know they play three games a week in football you get once a week to update that resume and you don't get to keep it because a lot of times what people try to do uh hooch and you know this ocho is that a guy man you bro i know what he did and when he did that i ain't taking nothing what he's already accomplished away those three mvps those super bowl mvps those all pros he still got those on his mantle but i'm talking about yesterday he was some slow it's really that simple i ain't one of those guys that you know you get it's a legacy and you get to keep you can play bad and even though you got all these accolades it no hell no that ain't how it works they don't carry over like that hell no not with not with shannon they don't it's about right now it ain't about yesterday right now.

46:03What are you doing right now? And that's the world of sports.

46:08Shannon Sharpe:That is. Well, TJ, man, we're going to let you get your family. We're going to let you go and get some dinner, get out to eat. Hey, man, thanks for stopping by. Come back and join us again soon, man. Hey, Shannon, how often you in the weight room, bro? You looking kind of swollen. Your shirt's small. Oh, you're feeling it? That's how you smoke the room. Hey, Chad, what you wearing right now, bro? About like 187? I'm 205 look that ain't no 205 205 what TJ that ain't no 205 205 what it's a 5 on there it's an 85 or a 95 but there I'm sure ain't no 2 in front of it I'm 205 right now for real cause TJ I'm getting I'm preparing to fight Devo in February I wish you the best man come on hey don't wish me the best you better wish him the best cause I'm gonna beat him the up.

47:01Shannon Sharpe:All right. Hey. Yeah. No wrestling. Make sure you, make sure you, no wrestling. No wrestling. No, MMA, everything goes. Everything goes, TJ. No, hey. Hey, did you just, did you just see what happened to Driggis Duplesse's when he fought Shemayev last week? I ain't got nothing to do with that. All right. I ain't got nothing to do with that. I'm training with Khabib. All right. I'm training. You need to go to Dak. You need to go to Dak. No, Khabib down here in Miami. Me and him been training. I'm with you. I'm with you. Now y 'all want to be with me. I got to make sure you're prepared. I'm with you, dawg.

47:46Me and Khabib, we've been training the past month.

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50:53Shannon Sharpe:you too Ocho you ain't gonna believe this Kansas State quarterback Avery Johnson's father was in a fist fight with his other son in the parking lot after today's loss in Dublin Ireland Ocho take a look at this who was fighting? the quarterback's dad and his brother so the quarterback for K-State that's his dad and his brother so that's his son that's fighting the dad what in the world going on what they like alcohol in the system

51:32hey I would love the back story on this too I would love it who won the game

51:40Shannon Sharpe:K-State lost okay look to be in a situation that you fight your dad, you got no respect for your dad. I can see if it's a family situation where the mom is involved and he's shoving. I get all that, Ocho. But in a situation like this at a ball game and it's out in public. And, you know, you got to think about other dynamics too and other elements that can cause stuff like this. Drinking, alcohol, being in the game, having fun. Again, emotions are high. You lose the game. some things might be said in exchange and stuff like that happened. Now, when we talk about family incidents and we talk about fights and stuff like this, you know stuff like this happens, especially in our culture in general.

52:32That's what's so sad. To see it happen and be displayed in public like that, it's very unfortunate.

52:39Shannon Sharpe:Let me tell you something. Let me tell you how alcohol works. You won't do anything intoxicated. You hadn't at least thought about sober. Because your mind won't allow you to go there. You see people, people, hey, they stole a bull, they stole an 18-wheeler, or they stole a bulldozer, or they did something reckless. But you thought about that while you were sober. Alcohol broke down the inhibitions and gave you the courage, that's what they call it, liquid courage, to go do what you did. I don't care how drug I got. I ain't finna fight my brother. I ain't finna fight my parents. and it's so funny you see videos like this all the time monk and it's embarrassing fighting each other whether it be sisters whether it be hell and i don't mean to bring up stories i don't i don't mean to bring up stories but obviously you know the story of my mom you know miss miss hurricane parla and i remember getting a phone call from my little brother one time man you need to come home man but what you mean come home i can't come home where is football season i'm i'm you you know i'm i'm locked in well mommy of them jumped on grandmama.

53:47They out there in the grass. They out there in the grass and they tough. I'm like, man, boy, go out there and stop it. What are you calling me for? I'm all the way in Cincinnati. There's nothing I can do. I'll take a phone call once I get out and I'm like, come on, Chossie? So, I mean, that's why I kind of understand it. I get it. Because I've been in a situation before. Wasn't present for it. But after hearing my grandma's side of the story, hearing my mama's side of the story I'm like come on y 'all now you need to stop drinking grandma you need to stop talking to her like that but it

54:27Shannon Sharpe:happens it happens you know they talk about man you won't have good luck hitting the old people you're right you won't have good luck if I'm the old person you won't have no good you're absolutely right you're absolutely right you're gonna put them hands on the wall and i say i've had a i have a relationship with my kids that i've explained to them our dynamic won't ever change no matter how wealthy you become no matter how poor i become i'm your father you'll always be my child so we're going to keep this dynamic the way it is i might be in a situation where i can't do for myself and you'll have now all of a sudden you'll have to be the parent in the room but i'm still the parent

55:14Shannon Sharpe:I've explained that to my kids my kids understand that and when things got to a point where you know hey let's just take some time hey we'll reconvene in a couple of days we'll reconvene in a week I don't need you to say something you regret I don't want to say something I regret ain't nobody going to put their hands on nobody because everybody grown here even when my kids weren't going to got to a certain age I was like look y 'all know right from wrong I'm not finna discipline you like by putting by you know putting my hands on you spanking you and doing all that kind of stuff I ain't physically I ain't punch him up he'll slap him or anything like that but I say you're to the age now I feel I can talk to you you understand Tim Fitzgerald go at PowerCast has confirmed there was a post game confrontation at Avivia Stadium involving Mark Johnson, father of Kansas State quarterback Avery Johnson, and another man believed to be Mr.

56:16Shannon Sharpe:Johnson's eldest son. According to witnesses, the conflict turned physical, according to one source. No arrests were made stemming from the incident. There is reportedly a video of the disagreement, and at least one eyewitness is tied to Kansas State athletics. Kansas State lost to Iowa State 24-21 in the college football classic. Avery Johnson completed 21 of 30 passes, 273, two touchdowns. He also ran for a touchdown. But that was a good game, bro. Did you get a chance? Yeah, he had a good game. That was a good game. Yeah, it was. But the thing is, Ochoa, if you can't handle your alcohol, don't drink.

56:55Shannon Sharpe:This is an awful look. The starting quarterback of a D1 school, his dad and his brother are rolling are fighting it's raining they're in

57:14hold on hold on I hate people that act slow stop the BS like this is normal in our community so now we sit there acting like this don't happen

57:26Shannon Sharpe:I'll tell you about it no no we're not saying that it doesn't happen, but you have to also understand just because it happens doesn't make it right. Nah, it's just someone saying stop acting like it's not normal. I mean, what rock... It ain't. What rock are we living under? When we see it every single day. Every single day, we see families. Families. It's us. All the time. How many more examples do we need? Something like it's not normal. It ain't normal. I've been seeing it all my life. I hate when people say dumb shit not you I'm not talking about you I'm talking about anything in the chat like what are you talking about god damn

58:15Shannon Sharpe:it just it's just tough to see cause we got we got enough without us fighting ourselves we got enough to fight a big battle a bigger battle we got enough issues that don't involve us. I've been stopped arguing with people of my complexion. And they act like they live under a rock, man. I'll let y 'all have it. Y 'all, you know, this is how y 'all feel. Y 'all say, okay, cool. I'm good. I'll move on. I think I just have more pressing things going on than to argue with someone that looks like me that even though they didn't come from a familiar background like mine, it's not even worth it anymore, Ocho.

59:01No, I'm just saying in general. I'm just saying. I know what you're saying. I know exactly what you're saying. I'm not saying it's right. But to sit here and act like it doesn't happen is not prevalent in our culture and try to sit here and act like you're part of the goddamn royal family. Like, that's not true. Like, what are you talking about? What are we talking about? Like, come on, man.

59:27Shannon Sharpe:time for our final segment the evening it's time for Q and A

59:41Shannon Sharpe:I need a drink and I don't him is the underscore Jordan so what's the difference between Sanders and Schultz a shucks performance y 'all dogma boy but he's been playing pretty good But the difference is that Shook is getting first team, second team reps. He's been put in a situation where he can succeed. The other guy isn't. When he had an opportunity to go in as a starter and they ran competent plays, he played well. When he didn't play well, Ochoa and I came out here and said, Shadour did not play well tonight. He has to do a better job of when the play is not there, don't exacerbate it and make it worse by taking a sack.

1:00:21Shannon Sharpe:but I see what you're trying to do. Oh, no. When Shook didn't play well, we said he didn't play well. When Shadour didn't play well, we said he didn't play well. The only difference is Shook is getting first and second team reps. Nate Godwin, they took him out because they were trying to win the game, which they did. Shadour was taking 40 yards sacked, 14. So you won the game where the guy is not going to be on your roster. So let me ask you a question. So if something happens to the first two guys, let's just say for the sake of argument, they go with four quarterbacks. The first three get hurt.

1:00:56Shannon Sharpe:So are you going to sign Snoop Huntley off the street and bring him in? Or are you going to go with your door? I'm just asking you, Nate, let me know what you're thinking. You know what? Normally, I think the guy I thought the objective was, okay, let's get the guys that's going to be on this team. Let's get them ready to play. let's put them in a situation that they could potentially face. So what's the likelihood? Now, if the fourth quarterback is going to be Snoop Huntley, by all means, he should have got that final drive. But if it's not, he should not have been in there. Hey, listen, we're doing all this discourse.

1:01:34Who's starting for the Cleveland Browns? Who's the quarterback? Who's number two? Who's number three? Boy, when football season start, you're not listening to me. When football season starts and all these teams have gotten completely better and they got to compete in that goddamn AFC North against the Ravens. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm not going to say nothing. You'll see week one. You'll see week one.

1:02:07Shannon Sharpe:Every week they send Shadour into a gunfight with a super soaker. But yes, your door has to stop drifting in the pocket and start playing, stop playing hero ball. But it's getting out of hand with the Browns. Yes, he drifts. There are situations that he should have stepped up and he went lateral. He doesn't have the foot speed to outrun people lateral. Just doesn't. He's got to do a better job. And understand, every play isn't meant for you to be successful. Sometimes success is the form of an incompletion, throwing it out of bounds. Sometimes success is shaking the ball down. Sometimes success is knowing when the journey is over.

1:02:51Shannon Sharpe:He has to do a better job of understanding that. He wants to make every play, and there's not been a quarterback in the history of the game, nor will there ever be, to make every play.

1:03:06Shannon Sharpe:Jason's Zeldorf, Sanders showed what he is today, a bum, a diva, ha ha Sanders fanboy is going to cry in their basement or in their mama's arms while Jackson Dart is lighting it up and showing he's the real deal again, he's in there with starters, he's in there throwing to guys that are going to be on the roster I mean I'm trying to figure out what you guys are doing that on purpose. They are purposely doing that.

1:03:40Shannon Sharpe:I'm a firm believer. I give credit when it's due. I've been, Hey, I said the first game he blasted Ocho, he played well. He came out, played well against Ocho. He looked really good. And I was like, Hey, he held, he going to challenge you. He going to play sooner than later. I've given credit. I don't know. I don't, I, but I mean, look, I appreciate you watching the show and dropping a thing in the chat. But if you watched us, well, you know what? Just because you're in the chat, that doesn't mean you're talking to Ocho and I. Because I think we've been very complimentary of Jackson Dart. So.

1:04:17Shannon Sharpe:Rev Debo, let your door either get cut or traded. I would love for him and the team to be the chief. Let Andy have him and then flip him for picks down the road. That would be great. Let him, you know, a veteran quarterback. He doesn't have to play. He just get better. Get those scout team reps, Ocho. We know what Andy can do with a quarterback. That goes without saying.

1:04:48Shannon Sharpe:Wes, the Browns fan. Browns fan here. I'm sorry, but what normally happens when you're third-string quarterback, you don't play with starters. Absolutely you do. when you play as well as he did in his first start, you absolutely get reps in practice with the ones and twos. Now, I'm not telling you, I'm not a fan. I was a former player, and I was a former player that started off at third and fourth teams that played well in a preseason game and got reps with the ones and twos. So, Wes, you talking as a fan, I ain't telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. That is exactly what that is.

1:05:22Shannon Sharpe:That's the way it always goes. That's the way it's always gone. Always. The latter part of your question, this problem has always been he's holding on to the ball too long. I agree. He does. He holds on to the ball too long. He's trying to make every play. Sometimes I think he's trying to play hero ball. Sometimes hero ball is throwing the ball out of bounds. Sometimes it's checking it down to the back. Sometimes it's getting the ball out of your hand. That's okay. Every play is not meant to get 10, 15, 20, 30 yards, and he has to understand that. spiritual war exposed nor don't come down with Sanders name it comes down to being black in America that kid just wants to play ball and white media comes with circus and blame Sanders for it look I just look it might not be in Cleveland his opportunity to play in the National Football League might not be in the Cleveland it just might not be might not be Jimmy Cleveland said it's sad, but y 'all they're keeping should do a four for merchandise and seating using him Gabriel has no merchandise on the website

1:06:37Shannon Sharpe:my question is why were teammates so distant and some even laughing including Dylan who last game he sat aloof after his poor performance. It says I felt tension all around him today. It was obvious.

1:06:55Look, I don't look good.

1:06:58Shannon Sharpe:In the preseason, being a vet, I mean, after my second year, the second year I still felt like a rookie because now I'm a bona fide tight end. I know what. So after my second year, so going into my third year, I kind of felt like a vet. And, you know, hey, I conducted myself like that. You know, obviously Dan wasn't big on that. We losing and all that Kiki keying. So, you know, if you were laughing, you don't show you.

1:07:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey, the way these guys be Kiki keying on the side, man. Why they losing? Yeah, even in the preseason. Dan didn't play that. Mike Shanahan didn't play that best like that, man.

1:07:44Shannon Sharpe:So they'll get it figured out. At least I hope they do. Jordan Hafford, let me get Ocho going, man. I'm 31 years old construction worker and can throw the ball better than Shadour. Stop the hype.

1:08:04All right, you got it. You got it. You got it.

1:08:08Shannon Sharpe:If Shadour gets released and the Saints or the Steelers don't pick him up, do you think he gets another shot in the league? Yes.

1:08:18Shannon Sharpe:Uh-huh. Shador had the same problem in college. Held on to the ball way too long, refused to throw it away, led the NCAA in sacks. Taken last two years he played, he could get away with it in college, not in the NFL. You're correct. He does hold on to the ball far too long. Mr. Jet Life, how can fans sit there and judge a quarterback play without intimately watching offensive line play? It's ridiculous. Five is not out there with practice squad linemen, but 12 is. Jalen Lister what do the Browns do when Deshaun Watson gets back how much more money does he have guaranteed left on that contract is it up after this year

1:09:01Shannon Sharpe:I don't think Deshaun Watson is coming back this year so if you mean 26 that's going to be open for debate

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1:09:27Shannon Sharpe:so he have so whatever he has left is on 26 he'll have no money left at the 26. Wow Kingman said Shay stop saying these MMA guys Will beat a boxer in a street fight These leg hugging guys will quickly get put To sleep by a boxer sweet science I don't know I don't know Matter of fact In a street fight? Street fight Where anything goes? I'm taking my chance Because the first thing you're going to do Is they're going to go low They're going low right away And obviously boxers aren't ready for that Man John Jones Gonna kick somebody dead in their face Right upside the head Then what

1:10:18Shannon Sharpe:Tone Z Said Uncle Nocho give me three things You would do if the Saints gym Trade AK And Drake London to get picks I think they should just blow the whole thing up and start over. Hold on. AK and Drake London. Drake London is where? Yeah. Drake London is in Atlanta, right? Yeah. He's talking about AK as Alvin Kamara. No, that don't make no sense. They got B. John Robinson. There would be no need for that switch to even happen. They need a goddamn quarterback in Portland. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what that was about. Jay Komoda, Ocho Trivia question. Which rapper said in the game, I'm no cheetah, I'm a tiger, I'm a cougar, I'm a panther, I'm a binger, Ocho Cinco, his song came out in 07?

1:11:15That was Lil Wayne. I remember that.

1:11:20Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I take your word for it, but I don't know. Jay Money said we love the show. Happy birthday to my woman. Ree, Ree, happy birthday. Jay Money wanted to say, tell you, happy birthday. Hopefully he did something very, very pleasant for you. And he did not take you to one of those 28 spots. Well, you as woman, so clearly y 'all done got that out of the way. So only one of me three said, Uncle Nocho, can y 'all give my newborn son a welcome to the world? Makai Josiah Pierce Born August 20th Yes we can Makai Josiah Welcome to the world I can babysit too Let me know Man With your impatient ass You call What's he calling I'm impatient when it comes to kids I got 211 kids I'm very impatient That's okay And you call grandpa to come get What's the baby French rack the show.

1:12:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, exactly. See?

1:12:23Shannon Sharpe:Fridge-Fried, Fridge-Fried, do another thing. Fridge-Fried like, peace. It's truly godly. Do you see him going to CFL for trials next year to make a full return if he gets cuts since the NFL isn't going to let him back easily? No, I think he's going to get a chance. I do. Maybe not with the Browns, but I think he's going to get a chance. Danky65, Free Shadour he's our son, not watching Browns anymore Boosie said, I paid for Super Chat just for Ocho not to give me a serious answer last night, I wanted to know how does a guy run a 4-2-40 and up with a 91 speed Ocho, the guy runs so at 4-2 he should be at least 98.

1:13:11He's a 4-2 right? He's a 91 right now So I want to see 4-2 week one, week two, week three, week four, week five, and so on, and then I'll raise his rating.

1:13:24Shannon Sharpe:He's saying at 4-2 considering there's not very many 4-2s. No, I don't want to hear that. It's a few 4-2s in the NFL. I want to see 4-2 when it actually counts, not running in a straight line. The game of football is not playing in a straight line. So show me 4-2 on the field. Like Tyree, when Tyree plays, he shows us 4-2 all the time. He's been doing it over what? Damn near a decade now. So Matthew Golden, young bull, show me folks every week and you'll be where you need to be. Simple. All right. Ocho, wouldn't believe what happened to me today. I had to call in to work because I dreamed the Bengals won their first five games.

1:14:07Hey, that's probably what's going to happen. That's probably what's going to happen. We might win the first 10, actually. We might win the first 10. Joe Burrow decided to play in the preseason. Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins, and everyone else on that offense.

1:14:21Shannon Sharpe:No, the coach decided to play them in the preseason. This was their choice. This was their choice. They said they wanted to play. And that's going to be the difference in why we'll be in San Francisco come first week of February. Did they say they didn't want to play last year? Yeah, they didn't want to play last year. They were too cool for school. What about the year before? They were too cool for school. We started a new trend. That concludes this episode. Go ahead. We started a new trend. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you for joining us again. I'm your favorite, Unc.

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1:15:42Shannon Sharpe:The link is pinned in the chat. Thank you, Rashawn Gary, for joining us. Thank you, TJ Hujmanzada for also joining us. We really appreciate you guys in the chat tonight. I'm Um, he's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow. Peace.

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