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12:01Joe Johnson:Hey, that's damn hard, though, too, Joe. You feel me?

12:05Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I do. I got, yeah. I got clothes from when I was like five or six.

12:12Joe Johnson:That's too much.

12:13Shannon Sharpe:that story I told about the white outfits that my mom dressed me and my brother like Easter for church for Easter for Easter yeah I still got that outfit that problem was 75 78 so damn near 50 years ago I still got it oh yeah I keep stuff we do I get that from my grandma I tell you my grandma My hand had canned peaches and beans and stuff for 20 years that she tried to bring to the new place. Let me say, Grady, this stuff ain't no good. She said, yeah, it is, baby. It's sealed. It ain't been open.

12:56Joe Johnson:Yeah.

12:59Shannon Sharpe:Grady, this ain't the military. This ain't no vacuum. Them MRE, ready to eat meals. That ain't what this is. Dude. Joe, you ain't got nothing.

13:12Chad Johnson:I got a little something. I got a few jerseys. I mean, that's pretty much it. I got a lot of signed jerseys. You know what I mean? A couple basketballs. I didn't do that, though, Joe.

13:24Shannon Sharpe:Like, when you went to the All-Star game, you got people to sign stuff for you, didn't you?

13:27Chad Johnson:Nah, so, like, when you go to the All-Star game, it's a section where all the players got to sign all these balls and all the signed jerseys. They give it to us. So, I mean, I went seven times, so I got some nice stuff, bro. I got some basketballs.

13:42Shannon Sharpe:The signatures ain't there no more.

13:44Chad Johnson:Who at? The signatures on that basketball ain't there no more. Okay, I'm out there. Hey, listen, I can't tell you what every signature is, but... Yeah. I got some stuff on it.

13:57Shannon Sharpe:I don't know who they are. I don't know who they are now. But the only thing I hate is that I went and I didn't get, you know, all the... I mean, think about it. I had Brady, had Manny. Elway, Marino, Kelly,

14:11Chad Johnson:Moon.

14:12Shannon Sharpe:Not one thing. Hey, man, I got a question.

14:15Chad Johnson:I won an Emmy Award, Uncle Ocho, and I ain't going to lie to y 'all. I lost it. I wonder how can I... You think they'll send me another one?

14:24Shannon Sharpe:You have to pay for it, but yeah.

14:26Joe Johnson:Hey, you won an Emmy, Joe?

14:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, and didn't know the significance of it, neither, Ocho.

14:31Joe Johnson:What you was in? What show?

14:34Chad Johnson:I was playing here for the Hawks, and I told my story to Fox Sports. Like, I was growing up, so my mom was in it. I think two of my uncles was in it. And we just told a story, bro. They came to my house, sit up, interviewed me and all that. And so it was like halftime of one game. They came back, they was like, hey, they want to present you with an Emmy at halftime. I'm like, what? Emmy? I didn't even know what the hell an Emmy was. I ain't going to lie to you. So listen, I go out there and get the Emmy. I come back, I put it up in my locker at the arena. I put it up in my locker, and by two, three days, I talked to my mama.

15:11Chad Johnson:I was like, mama, I want an Emmy. And she was like, you want an Emmy? Boy, where is that? I said, it's in my locker. She was cussing me out, boy. Hey, if you don't get that damn thing up out of there and send it to me, you know, people work their whole careers trying to win an Emmy. I'm like, man, I ain't know. But anyway, I had a flood here in my house when I was playing in Brooklyn. And it wasn't nobody here. so water had been running for like seven days on there, Ocho. It flooded out, so it messed up a lot of stuff. But that's one thing I couldn't find when I came back. I'm like, damn, I couldn't find it.

15:44Chad Johnson:I don't know if somebody hit me for it or not.

15:46Joe Johnson:Yeah, but that's a nice accomplishment there, Joe.

15:49Shannon Sharpe:But that definitely, oh yeah, that's a standard.

15:52Joe Johnson:Yeah.

15:53Shannon Sharpe:We go get one, Ocho.

15:55Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, we definitely is, bro. We definitely is. That's the only thing I'm missing. Hey, Joe, I don't know why, Joe. So, you know, after playing all them years, man, and having them jerseys, having them helmets, and no cleats and stuff, I don't know why I don't see the value in it no more. I don't understand. I just... Even when you was playing, you didn't see no value? No, no, no. I didn't see it once I was done playing. Once I was done playing, and I just let the stories go, man. You know, people... I mean, remember a dude found a story because I just stopped paying for it. And people would hit me on Instagram.

16:33Joe Johnson:I'm staying with him. He was like, hey, some dude got your storage and you don't care. I'm like, man, I don't care. Man, I done bought a whole new place. I done started over doing everything and I'm not taking none of that old stuff with me. It's funny how people see things that used to be yours and they value it more than you do. In my mind, man, I done left that place there 15 years ago. I don't want to bring it where I'm going now. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's just weird how people think like that. I just, I don't see the value in it no more.

17:07Shannon Sharpe:Well, I hope don't nobody find them love letters I wrote many years ago.

17:10Joe Johnson:Well, hey, you wrote love letters on?

17:13Shannon Sharpe:Did I?

17:14Joe Johnson:Hey, that's a lost art, huh? It is. That's a lost art. Love letters, man. You know I talk about that, huh?

17:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, I sold a man a fireplace that was going to hell. So you know I can get him. Oh, Joe, you know I can get him. That's big. I like that.

17:37Joe Johnson:I like that. I like that. God damn love letter, man. Yeah, that was my real love letter.

17:43Shannon Sharpe:I'm probably from like, I think I stopped probably about the 11th grade. Maybe the 12th grade.

17:53Chad Johnson:And you went for a minute. I stopped in junior high. I wrote a couple letters in junior high after that. When I got to high school, I ain't writing no letters. I'm writing them.

18:01Joe Johnson:And you know what? I think we should make that an assignment, though. What's that? To surprise our partners, I think we should write a letter, you know, in how we feel about our partners.

18:14Shannon Sharpe:I can speak it now. Because back then, I was a little shy. I couldn't be in front of you. I could be by myself and write it down. Right.

18:28Chad Johnson:Yeah.

18:29Joe Johnson:But I know you can express it through words. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know you can articulate it, but let's take it back to the 50s, you know, when they couldn't do it. And just imagine, Joe, imagine your wife reading how you really feel about her on paper. Yeah. And then sign at the bottom with a crayon, like your little kid, you know. I mean, I tell her. Hey, spray. I tell her how I feel about her. Oh, you got to spray some cologne.

18:55Shannon Sharpe:Right there close to it.

18:57Chad Johnson:Spray some cologne on paper.

18:59Joe Johnson:one hand on you. Hey, yeah, I'm telling you, man. And don't forget, remember I told you about that stuff I need y 'all to go get? Yeah. Now you can use that stuff I would tell you about, Joe. Huh? Did you bring them tonight? Yeah, I brought them from upstairs. You know I got a little dungeon here. Hey, Joe, hold on, Joe, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Joe. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Hey,

19:28Chad Johnson:Yeah, y 'all bear with it.

19:30Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, this is what you need to do, Joe. Get you one of these. You see that, Joe? Mm-hmm. Hey, that go right there. Behind the head, Joe. You hear me? Yeah. You put this in your mouth. Huh? In her mouth. No, in your mouth, Joe.

19:47Chad Johnson:My wife's going in my mouth, Joe. Joe, so you don't scream.

19:50Joe Johnson:You don't want the kids to hear you scream, Joe. Tell me how to put it on. Let me see. I can't unbuckle it right now, Joe. Joe, you see the bucket right there, Joe? Huh? Yeah. So you loosen that up. Your head kind of big too. So your head kind of big. So you put that on, put that in your mouth, right, Joe? Hold on, let me finish.

20:10Chad Johnson:Okay.

20:14So then, Joe, you got your collar, Joe.

20:19Joe Johnson:You see, it's your collar. See, your neck a little bigger than mine, so you're going to need a bigger collar. So take one of the colors off your dog. I know you got some big dogs back there. Use one of the dog colors, huh? And this your little leash. This the leash part, right, Joe? Tell her. Show me how that hand going button up in the back. Show me how it. No, Joe, I ain't putting it on. I'm on camera now, Joe.

20:41Chad Johnson:No, no, no, no, no. I got to see. I got to see. You got to show me something. Then put it around your neck. Show me how you do a snap. Like that, Joe? Yeah.

20:52Joe Johnson:Oh, OK. because you had it in the back. Yeah, you see, hey, Joe, I've been in the gym, so my neck is a little tight. My neck is a little tight, so I got to get me a bigger collar, too, Joe. Yeah. Now, it'll fit you if you put it through. Hey, I've been working my neck a lot, Joe, so it's kind of tight on me. Hey, hold on, Unc. Don't go nowhere. Yeah, I need to go somewhere. Hold on. Hey, Joe, you can't forget the blindfold, Joe. Oh, you got to have a blindfold.

21:19Chad Johnson:You got to have a blindfold, Joe. Hold on, but why? This is going on me though. I thought it was going on her. She supposed to be putting all this stuff on. No, Joe, this is for you.

21:27Joe Johnson:This is for you, Joe. Now, I ain't even get to the other stuff because you felt you was a little uncomfortable the other night. So, I ain't really want to bring it up. I'm just giving you... I'm trying to start you out in the beginner level, Joe. Hey, Joe, all this is a beginner level stuff that you can get into. You hear me? Joe, I ain't finished. Stay right there. Hey, Joe. Huh? Get you some furry handcuffs, Joe. I see. Okay. You hear me? I'm messing with them. I like them handcuffs. The handcuffs are all right. Hey, Joe. Let her take you to jail. You hear me? Let her take you to jail, Joe.

22:03Shannon Sharpe:No, no. Joe, they not for you. They not for the handcuffs, not for you. They for her. No. So now you got to like this here. No. And you got to. Yeah. You got her hands.

22:14Joe Johnson:Yeah. No. Hey. Yeah. You not understanding. I'm trying to take Joe to another level now. Listen to me. No. Let me cook. Let me cook. Hey, Joe, hold on. Y 'all messing up my ingredients to my goddamn recipe.

22:28Shannon Sharpe:See, Ocho want to be restrained. See, I can't be restrained. Me neither. See, that's the problem. I'm going to snatch the whole, if the bed in the wall, I'm going to snatch the whole wall down.

22:41Joe Johnson:Hey, see, this is the problem. Y 'all need to learn to be vulnerable. Y 'all ain't got to dominate every goddamn thing. You're not dominating in the NFL. You're not dominating in the NBA. at some point you need to learn to bring it down allow your women to control the goddamn environment for a change that's the problem

22:58Chad Johnson:Ocho, Ocho I'm too big for that bro like Ocho

23:02Joe Johnson:you think you too big to see in your shit, you hear me what you mean what the Joe, it's okay Joe, you gotta you gotta learn to submit, boy, that's your problem but you always wanna be he-man, nigga you ain't he-man This how you get down? Me? Hey, Joe. Boy, listen, boy. I'm a dominatrix, Joe.

23:30Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, I wear a whole outfit. Joe, I wear a whole outfit, like all black. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe. Hey, get you a paddle too, Joe. I let my paddle upstairs. Baby, bring him my paddle.

23:42Chad Johnson:You're going to have to get this boy here a raw and uncut. Nah, we're going to have to get this man some treatment. it.

23:50Joe Johnson:I just want y 'all to be happy like I'm happy. Why do you think I'm smiling all the time? Why do you think I'm happy all the time? Why do you think I don't ever get mad?

23:57Shannon Sharpe:I'm glad you're happy, Ocho, but what I'm saying is I would like to think if a woman's going to deal with me, she already knows she's getting a 6 '2", muscular built, 250, 250 pound man. Come on now. She want me for that. If you buy a dump truck, you not have it in the parade you got it in the hall it's heavy duty

24:20Joe Johnson:that's what I'm here for see that's the problem that's what's wrong with us all of us is goddamn one dimensional I need all y 'all like an octopus I want you to be able to do a multitude of things outside of being one dimensional hey Joe I'm going to send you some video for reference because it seems like I need

24:40Chad Johnson:I'm going to text the video to your phone

24:42Joe Johnson:don't you ever text nothing to my phone

24:44Chad Johnson:I'm going to block your ass.

24:47Shannon Sharpe:You ain't going to say nothing to my phone. I don't know where that came from. Nope. Absolutely not. Hey.

25:00Chad Johnson:Hey. It's tripping, man.

25:02Shannon Sharpe:What's wrong with you? You ain't going to say nothing to my phone.

25:05Joe Johnson:But listen. Sometimes when people learn to cook, Joe, and listen to me. Just stay with me now. Stay with me. When people learn to cook.

25:13Chad Johnson:Yeah.

25:14Joe Johnson:They watch YouTube. They watch TikTok to learn new things that they've never done before. And I need y 'all to be open into learning new things. It's okay. Now, I'm going to send you a visual reference step-by-step on how to intertwine yourself and do different things you've never done before. But I need you to learn to be... I feel sick, y 'all.

25:36Chad Johnson:I'm straight, old Joe. Y 'all good? I'm straight. Yeah, I'm good. You sure? Yeah, yeah. Enough is enough.

25:43Shannon Sharpe:All right. well you know what fuck it dude fuck it yeah hey Joe he tried to see you there and your phone have a virus my phone be done locked up hell no man hey listen he done sent a bug to my phone man

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30:43Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you got to see me in my full suit with the paddle, though, Joe.

30:48Shannon Sharpe:My baby's good. She said she can try anything, so I'm good. Your lady say that? I'm good yeah

31:00Joe Johnson:we good though man I'm gonna send y 'all a phone it'd be there in the morning when you wake up anytime

31:08Shannon Sharpe:anywhere anyhow I'm good okay 23 positions on a one night stand Joe oh my god Michael Jordan hey So, hey All that stuff Ocho talking about Don't you sit under my phone, man

31:31Chad Johnson:Hey, bruh

31:32Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, I'm finna call the phone club this night

31:35Chad Johnson:I thought we were family, man Hey, hey

31:38Joe Johnson:It don't look like a good time, Ocho, man No, it don't Nah, hey, y 'all ain't, y 'all, hey, boy, listen Hey, I got a question I don't mean to be in y 'all personal business, but Y 'all been to Swing Club, no?

31:51Chad Johnson:Nah Nah, I ain't never been to a swinger club.

31:54Joe Johnson:Okay, okay, okay. Okay.

31:58Chad Johnson:Yeah, what you do? Were people just in there sharing each other? I don't know, Joe.

32:01Joe Johnson:I'm just asking if you ever been there. I ain't saying I've been there. Oh, God damn. Don't be asking if you ever been.

32:08Shannon Sharpe:No, you got to be. You can't go in there. You got to be a part of it. Oh, you need a membership, Unc? Yeah, you got to be. Yeah. How do you know? But you got to bring somebody. You can't come by yourself. Oh, no? I ain't never been. I mean, but you know more than I do. I would just ask you all. I'm just saying, that's what I heard.

32:26Chad Johnson:Yeah.

32:36Chad Johnson:So you can't just go in there like that. No, you got to have somebody.

32:39Shannon Sharpe:How you just going to go by yourself and you going to smash somebody else's white old lady? Yeah, he want to swing by himself. That ain't swinging.

32:50Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, the only swing that I know is in the gym, Joe. That's the only swing that I know, man. That's the only swing that I know. Okay.

32:55Chad Johnson:Okay.

32:57Joe Johnson:Boy, Ocho Wildwood, though. Ocho need help, man. Nah, this normal stuff, man. This normal stuff. Y 'all just. That ain't normal. Ocho, that ain't normal. I told y 'all, one-dimensional.

33:09Shannon Sharpe:That's it. Joe, you just. They got them clubs that you go in there and, you know, you put the money in and the curtain come back and the woman behind the glass. You get to pick which one you want? No, you get to pick nothing, but she doing things to herself, and you can do stuff to yourself.

33:24Joe Johnson:Damn. No, that isn't enough, huh? You know, that sounds like some high school shit.

33:29Shannon Sharpe:When you go in there, don't touch nothing. Keep your hands in your pocket, and don't sit down. Yeah.

33:35Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you know what? I forgot to show y 'all the swing, but I didn't want to take it down. I show y 'all the swing tomorrow.

33:43Shannon Sharpe:I'm good on that. Y 'all don't want to get the swing? I can see you one. No, I'm good. I told you. Yeah, man. I mean, I'm trying to like that last time I was on the swing, probably third grade. Yeah. We used to swing and jump out the back of them, turn backwards, flip out the back of them. You remember that, Joe? Oh, we turned, do a helicopter, turn all the way around. Yeah. That was the last time I'm good with the swing.

34:07Joe Johnson:And the funny thing about it, you can do everything you just said in a new swing. I know you can do it. I know. Yeah, okay. I'm going to see you one. Hey, Joe, I'm going to see you one too, Joe. I'm good. Let me tell you something. This is the deluxe swing, so you can be up to 300 pounds. It can hold 300 pounds of weight. So you and your girl could be on the swing at the same time, intertwined, turning like some little kids. I got you.

34:29Chad Johnson:No, I'm a lever. Oh, Joe, I ain't no little dude, bro.

34:31Joe Johnson:Joe, you 6 '9 by 240. I know, Joe. I know. I know. I did my homework before I ordered it.

34:37Chad Johnson:I'm saying things like that can't really hold a man like myself. You know what I mean? It ain't made for it.

34:43Joe Johnson:I just said it was a deluxe swing, Joe. a deluxe. This ain't no Walmart Target stuff. This is deluxe. Huh?

34:52Shannon Sharpe:But that's the whole point. Y 'all need no swing. I'm struggling. I can hold up myself.

34:57Joe Johnson:Joe, I mean, listen to me.

34:59Shannon Sharpe:Up to a certain poundage. Right.

35:01Joe Johnson:Right.

35:04Shannon Sharpe:All right.

35:06Joe Johnson:Lord have mercy.

35:07Chad Johnson:Yeah, he need a little help.

35:09Joe Johnson:You know what? This happens all the time. You know? People be shocked in the beginning. but over time I'm gonna get through to y 'all. Over time. So it's still early. I give it to, give me till September. Give it to September.

35:26Chad Johnson:Nah bro. This dude here.

35:33Chad Johnson:Hey.

35:34Joe Johnson:Oh lord. Y 'all can't be scared. You can't be, and still.

35:40Chad Johnson:Nah, come on bro.

35:41Joe Johnson:You can't be the king and just, you know. and you're not adventurous. Huh?

35:50Chad Johnson:Nah, kings don't move like that, partner.

35:52Shannon Sharpe:I can't tell everybody because they're going to be down for a shadow guy in trouble. He be going, yeah, I done been to the place that you know.

35:58Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got to be like me. You just have not to kill me. I don't care what nobody say. This is me.

36:07Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, Unc, you been around the block, man. You been here for a while. Forget what they say, man.

36:13Shannon Sharpe:I'll be first to admit, I've done some things I'm not proud of, but I was asked to participate.

36:18Joe Johnson:Okay, okay, okay, okay.

36:21Shannon Sharpe:We'll leave it at that. Oh, yeah.

36:26Shannon Sharpe:It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

36:30Joe Johnson:Well, we had a time tonight, boy. I like this, boy. Are we on tomorrow? No. Well, I think we should have an emergency show.

36:42Shannon Sharpe:You and Joe got it. Before we get to our super chat, we got six video voicemail from our Discord. Let's take a listen to the first one. Ocho, Iso, how y 'all feeling today? First and foremost, I don't like how y 'all came in my sixes. Like, stop us out. Give us a pass. You know we not being the Celtics. We don't got no NBA. They have full strength. They could be champions. Just forget about this series. This series is going to be swept under a rug. We ain't going to talk about it. But anyway, my question is, the A.J. Brown situation is no secret. He getting traded. But how much do you think he getting traded for, given that Jalen Waddle got the compensation that he got traded for?

37:30And also, how do you think our wide receiver core would look like after we draft?

37:38Shannon Sharpe:But they got the guy, remember Ochoa, they signed the guy for – Romeo. Dante Wicks. What are we talking about? Philly. In Philly. Yeah. They signed Wicks. Yes. They got Devontae. Yeah. They got another receiver. Dante Wicks. Yeah. I'm trying to think. Who's the other receiver they had last year? Number two. I don't know if he's still there, though. who was the receiver last year?

38:10Joe Johnson:Was that Dotson?

38:11Shannon Sharpe:I think he was the first-round pick a couple years ago.

38:13Joe Johnson:That was Brother Dotson on my tripping. Yeah, Johan Dotson. Johan Dotson, yeah, yeah. He's still there?

38:20Shannon Sharpe:Oh, they signed Hollywood, too. That's right, Hollywood Brown is there. So they got Hollywood, they got Wiggs, they got... Huh? Dotson left, okay. And Smitty. And look, they might go in the draft they might go in the draft and get another receiver.

38:41Joe Johnson:But they're going to be all right. They're going to be all right with their position anyway. You know, Devontae Smith. Go ahead, Ocho, go ahead. I'm just saying, Devontae Smith, obviously, I mean, they're one of the few teams that had two number one wide receivers as far as I'm concerned. You know, so Devontae Smith, he's going to lead that receiving core and they're going to be all right. I'm hoping they use them in different ways, you know, outside of the problems and issues that they had last year on offense where everybody complained everything was so goddamn predictable. Yeah. By down and distance.

39:14Joe Johnson:So hopefully they have a little bit more creativity, you know, and they fixed some of the issues last year on why AJ wants out. And AJ's going to be fine. Now, what the conversation they get for him is, I'm not sure what it's going to be. I just know Brother AJ is going to be a goddamn patron, like I said damn near three months ago.

39:31Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm. Yeah.

39:34Shannon Sharpe:familiarity it's a no-brainer yeah because you you lose you lose uh uh uh Diggs and Diggs Diggs had a thousand yeah so you mean tell me you don't think what you're going to get a thousand AJ because I think we all in agreeance that AJ is a better receiver than Diggs especially after the injury now Diggs had Diggs had his time a pro many time Pro Bowl player had an unbelievable career but you give me a choice I'm going to take AJ

40:07Chad Johnson:hey but hold up though y 'all think Smith is going to be able to carry that that wide receiver position like that

40:12Joe Johnson:absolutely boy

40:13Shannon Sharpe:yeah Smitty can be a number one but you know they got Hollywood to stretch the field Smitty can get deep but Smitty is good underneath good run after the catch for him to be as frail as he is I mean Smitty 165-0 maybe 170 he durable yeah yeah he really hurt

40:37Joe Johnson:really hurt you know Smitty you know Smitty fast as hell too now yeah Smitty put him up and put him down now

40:46Shannon Sharpe:somebody's talking about Diggs better than AJ okay

40:49Joe Johnson:and matter of fact I'm glad you said that and remember remember I told y 'all three months ago as well that Diggs would be in Baltimore now watch what happened he's going back home huh yeah Watch what happened. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.

41:06Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Here's our second one. Let's take a listen.

41:10Joe Johnson:Hey, boy, it's Never Bust Again, and I'm coming with the first ever diss track on the Nightcap Discord. This is directed towards Randy Vixomore. Hey, boy, let me tell you something. When I throw shots, I'm never missing. When I punch you in your mouth, that's when the blood start glissing.

41:30Chad Johnson:Hey, guess what? you better take a good listen. And this dick, that's what your baby mama be kissing. And I'm never with the arguing and dismissing. And every time I think of you, I just get the pissing. And I know I go hard, and that's my mission. You can't even come back because you ain't with it. Damn. Okay.

41:56Shannon Sharpe:Okay. I just hope he ain't listening. Okay.

41:59Joe Johnson:Hey, that was sweet. Jackie Chan, I like that. Hey. Damn. Hey, he sound like a brother almost. You know, you know, you know, you know, you rhyme, you know, you rhyme him, uh, some of us. That's it.

42:13Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

42:14Shannon Sharpe:He cool. We ain't got nobody, we ain't got nobody screening him before we put him up.

42:20Joe Johnson:Hey, that man was a little vulgar. That was a nice little rap, nice little rap, nice little rap, little battle rap. You know, one in 10, he'd give him a three.

42:29Shannon Sharpe:Here's our third one. What's up with y 'all, man? Isaiah coming in from Northern California again. Look, hey, you already see what's going on. We celebrating the game one victory. Just got done watching nightcap after the game, and it was a good episode. You know why? Because Joe wasn't talking ish about my Spurs. You know what I'm saying? I like to keep the peace, Joe. You feel what I'm saying? I don't want to have to do you like I did that speed bag. You saw how I did that speed bag. You know, I like you, Joe. I wish you would have played for the Spurs for a little bit. You feel what I'm saying?

43:00I miss with you, Joe. But, hey, look, I got a question for all y 'all. It's the 30-year anniversary of and one basketball. Who is your favorite and one basketball player of all time? And, Joe, I'm a Spurs fan. You got any Tim Duncan stories for me? Appreciate y 'all.

43:20Joe Johnson:Hey, favorite and one got to be hot sauce, huh?

43:23Shannon Sharpe:I was going to say hot sauce.

43:26Chad Johnson:A.O. I like hot sauce probably. Skip. Big Escalade. You remember Big Escalade? Oh, Big Boy. Big Boy.

43:32Joe Johnson:He passed away, didn't he, Joe?

43:34Chad Johnson:Yeah.

43:35Joe Johnson:Yeah, rest in peace.

43:36Chad Johnson:Yeah, Skip to my Lou. Oh, I forgot about Skip.

43:39Shannon Sharpe:Professor. Yeah. The air up there. The dude did that 720.

43:45Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Hey, they had it lit for a minute. And one was nice, but... Hey, the hoop session was messed up. Boy, you couldn't even get a good hoop session. Guys out there doing N1 tricks. Come on, man. Let's play some balls, bro. Straight up. Straight up, A-boy. They had took over for a minute, though, for real. Them boys were touring and everything.

44:06Shannon Sharpe:Hey, remember, they had a sneaker out. Who they used to wear the N1 sneakers?

44:11Chad Johnson:I think KG was with them. I know Stephon. I think it was Marbury with them at first. Yeah, Marbury. I think KG was with them for a second. I remember having some of them with the 21 on the back. Lance Stevenson I think he still may be with him to some degree Uncle Ocho they had a few they had a few guys they had a few guys oh they were

44:34Shannon Sharpe:some good days boy they were man let's take a listen to our fourth one

44:40Chad Johnson:what's up Nightcap family all the way from Montreal Canada I've been a loyal supporter since September 2023 the show's been going on for more than two years you've had a lot of basketball pundits ex-players like J.R. Smith, Pat Baer, Gilbert Serena. What made I Saw Joe so special? What made the connection, the chemistry smoother? And what made the decision easier to make him part of the victory?

45:12Joe Johnson:Thank you.

45:14Chad Johnson:Man, I think what made it an easy transition is because I've been a fan of the show since before y 'all started. I've been following Unc since probably, yeah, 2016, watching him and Skip every morning. I ain't used to miss that. I used to watch Ocho when he was with Brandon Marshall and him for a minute. How y 'all used to go in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But once y 'all started this nightcap, I ain't going to lie to you. It ain't many shows that I'd have missed. I was in the first one, too. First episode. You know what I mean? So I already kind of knew like an angle. You know, Ocho doing all that damn line he be doing.

45:54Chad Johnson:So that was the first thing I was going to address when I got on here. And then I just think that we all super Southern guys. And I think it kind of meshed well because we all probably went through the same thing. A lot of the same things.

46:09Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is that, okay, we had Gil the first year and then we went to JR. And Ash was talking and said, man, what do you think about ISO? I say, Joe Johnson? He's like, yeah, he's liking a lot of our stuff. I said, well, reach out. Yeah. Because I'm like, but he don't really say a whole lot.

46:31Joe Johnson:Yeah, he don't talk. Same thing I said. Man, Joe don't talk. He don't show no emotion. I done watched Joe his whole basketball career. I ain't heard Joe say nothing.

46:42Chad Johnson:So I was like. But I had never done no type of interviews. I mean, I was on all the smoke, but they were doing COVID. Yeah. And then I did a thing with DC Young Fly last year. And then, you know, they kind of picked up some traction. But, yeah, when they asked me to be on here with y 'all, I'm like, what the hell they want me for? Yeah.

47:00Shannon Sharpe:So I was like, hey, hey. And I was like, man, I was like, he good. I mean, if he want to come back, he can come back. He's like, yeah, I'm here anytime y 'all need me. So here we are. Hey, now we got it. I did not know, Chad. I'm not going to sit here and say, well, yeah, I knew it was going to work. I didn't. because, like I said, I haven't heard Joe say a whole lot. I mean, he went about his business. Obviously, you make your seven-time All-Star, one of the clutch players in NBA history. Obviously, he knows the game, a hard worker, but you don't know. You don't know. I just knew, like, Ocho, I was like, Ocho is the antithesis of what I am.

47:40Shannon Sharpe:Ocho like the Bulldog. Ocho ain't going to take anything serious. I'm going to be the serious one. So I knew that was a – and a lot of times I was like, man, do I need somebody on the other side of the boss? Man, to hell with that. He know defense. And it worked. But bringing along Joe and when I – you know, hey, we're going to have Joe on. He's like, man, Joe don't talk. I was like, well, hell. He said he wanted to come on, so. Oh, yeah.

48:04Joe Johnson:He talking that. He doing more than talking. He talking trash. He talking shit.

48:08Shannon Sharpe:Now he out there talking about hands, lips, and chains. I was like, damn. Hey, Chad.

48:12Chad Johnson:Hey, Chad. Hey, Chad. Chad, this is what I tell y 'all, Chad. How you get accepted, you got to beat these two at their own game. I did that. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Joe. I beat them at their own game. Hold on, man. Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. We opened up 26 the right way. All right. I beat you and I'll get y 'all own game, talking shit, and kicked y 'all butt in the game. That's how I got y 'all attention. That's how I got y 'all attention.

48:35Joe Johnson:And you sure we ain't living on that pass a lot, Joe. You just like him?

48:38Chad Johnson:That's the only thing I can go on for right now, Ocho. You hear me? All right.

48:42Shannon Sharpe:You're dead coming, Joe. Here's our fifth one. Let's take a listen.

49:14Chad Johnson:until he's gone. And, you know, just looking at what he accomplished since he's been here, you know, he never had under a thousand yards receiving three times all pro team, second team, never miss a playoffs, two Super Bowl Leprids and Super Bowl Ream. I just want to know, you know, if he go to another team and don't put up the numbers or hide the same team's success, do y 'all think there's something he's going to regret, you know? Sorry, nightcat, by the way, man. Love the show. Appreciate it.

49:39Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, home team, I appreciate that love. Hey, he down there by Gwentry, by Scott Projects out there in the city where your boy grew up, man, but I don't think he's going to regret it. I don't think he is. Obviously, he's accomplished everything that he can. He's won a ring. He's won. He's been to the Pro Bowl. He's won all pros, and he got his money. So what's next? He's not happy in the situation he's in. It's one of those situations where, listen, we can split without it being bad feelings, but I need to go play somewhere else because what I'm doing and what I'm doing here, it's just not working for me.

50:11Joe Johnson:He's going to the Patriots. We just saw Stephon D come off a 1 ,000-yard season. What do you think? You think he going to go over there with goddamn Drake May and not have another 1 ,000-yard season? Yes, he is. I mean, that just wasn't going to be. This is one of those situations where the grass is going to be greener on the other side because you've already did everything you could do in goddamn Philly.

50:37I'm of the mindset, don't regret a decision you chose.

50:45Shannon Sharpe:he was where hey he might have not wanted to go to Philly we don't know the workings behind that it seemed like Vrabel when they found out he was being traded Vrabel wasn't very happy about that but Vrabel didn't have the control in Tennessee that he currently has a lot of the control in New England I agree with Ocho I don't think he's going to regret it because he's not happy and it's hard for me to see a scenario where he'll be less happy could you never know like you said you don't know yeah you give you three doors and you're like oh i'll take door number three you pick that door but hey one or two might have been worse you don't know but it's just hard for me to see it he's been unhappy for a minute and i think the best way to rectify the situation no cho yeah just let him go yeah i mean you're not letting him go but i'm just saying, y 'all, it just needs to happen.

51:42Shannon Sharpe:But I don't think he'll regret this decision. I don't.

51:48I don't.

51:49Chad Johnson:Well, only time to tell. Because the grass ain't always green on the other side.

51:55Joe Johnson:As long as you bring your hose, Joe, you're going to be all right.

51:58Chad Johnson:All right.

52:02Shannon Sharpe:The last one, let's take a listen to the last one.

52:06Chad Johnson:Shout out to Nightcap, man What's going on? Man, tell Ocho to pay you that 12 grand EOU, man Ocho, I'm from the city for real, dawg You done missed About six months worth of Super Sundays, man, you gotta come back to the city I saw Joe, man Why you make Paul Pierce touch earth like that, dawg You ain't do him like that, bro Man, bless the job Appreciate it Yeah Hey, Pete Pierce, that was my vet, bro. Like, to be able to get that get back on him. Come on, man. You know what I mean? Because when I came into the league, Ocho, that man was top three scores in the NBA. Yeah, Pete Pierce was putting him up.

52:51Chad Johnson:That boy, hey, for like the first half of the season, he probably averaging at least 28 to 30 points a game. He finished the season at like 27, 26, I think. But he was, I'm talking about, I seen that boy, throw some cookouts. You hear me? Yeah. And he used to talk plenty ish in practice. Boy, y 'all have no clue.

53:15Shannon Sharpe:Sexy Ed Boy said, Unc, did your grandmother ever face racism or profiling? I asked with respect, how did she handle it? And was there ever any justice or resolution? My grandmother worked for, I mean, she grew up as a little girl. her, my grandma Lou, granny, and anime. That was my grandma's sister. And they grew up working for the white people, washing clothes, washing houses. My grandma did that a lot. Yeah. She worked at a nursing home. She washed the granny was a maid. Aids are what they have to get them ready. They have to feed them and change them and bathe them and things like that. She didn't do that.

53:58Shannon Sharpe:But she went to white people's houses and she would bathe the women and get them dressed and stuff like that. I'd never heard my grandma say anything about it. She just accepted the fact that she grew up in the South. She knew what it was. She accepted the fact. And she said, son, we just got to do what we do. So she never complained about it. She knew, obviously, she knew about it. I mean, you're in the South, rural South Georgia. My grandma was born in 1921. What the hell you thought it was like? My grandma saw a lot. Grandma Lou was born in 1900. And I had her mom, Grandma Addie, was born in 18...

54:45Shannon Sharpe:I think 1882? Dang. So, yeah. It was whatever. My grandma didn't complain. My grandma wasn't a complainer. Right. No matter what, which she would always say, God is still in charge.

55:01Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm.

55:01Shannon Sharpe:God is still in charge. You have a little, he's in charge. You have a lot, he's in charge. Good, he's in charge. Bad, he's in charge. So she was devout in her faith. But my grandma, I don't recall. And I can recall damn everything she ever said. I don't recall if she said anything about it. But was it around? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

55:32Shannon Sharpe:One of the stories she did share with us is like when they came from church, because my grandma always been in the church. Grandma Lou always been in the church. They had got home from church about three. Y 'all know how we stay in church. We don't just, hey, we ain't like the Catholic church where they're like, uh, okay, you can go. Yeah. Hey, you in there at 10 o 'clock?

55:56Shannon Sharpe:11, you're on the road going home. Yeah. That ain't how we do it. Sunday school from 10 to 11.30. You get a 10-minute break, and then church, 10.45. No, from 11.45 to 3.15.

56:13Chad Johnson:You ain't lying.

56:14Shannon Sharpe:3.15. And it better not be pastor's anniversary. It better not be church anniversary. It better not be nothing else going on because you're dead until 5.

56:26Chad Johnson:Hey, and then when you leave, you get in the parking lot, grandma's going to talk another hour and a half. Oh, yeah, standing there talking. That one probably said, come on, baby. They at the park hooping. I'm trying to hurry up and get home. I can go hooping. You're going to have a whole other hour and a half talking.

56:42Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Come on, man. So she told a story that they got home from church about 3.30, 3.45, because back then they walked or they hitched the mule up and ain't nobody have no car. so you had to mule or you walked the church. And she said they got home and were just taking off the clothes, and the lady came and brought like four or five loads because back then you had to wash. There wasn't no washing machine. You had to wash the loads by hand. You had to heat up water, heat up the pots, and wash the clothes. And the lady came by with about four or five loads of clothes and said, Lou, that was my grandma's name, Grandma Lou, Louise.

57:19Shannon Sharpe:Lou, I'm going to need you, I need you, the girls, to wash this. She said, and Grandma Lou said, well, you know, we'll get it tomorrow. Me and the girls, you know, we work Monday through Saturday and Sunday. We just got back from church, and we just want to relax. And Granny said, the lady told her, say, well, Lou, if y 'all don't wash these clothes, y 'all will have to move on. My grandmother was standing on the people's land in their house. So Granny said she told her and Annie may go out there and get the clothes, and they had to wash the clothes. grandma say you know uh granny say she ain't she ain't our copenhagen spit-free pouches are packed full of american-grown tobacco made for welders stuck behind masks more mechanics stuck on a fused spark plug the long-haul trucker is stuck in gridlock for foreman working late at the field office or anytime there's no time or space to spit there's copenhagen spit-free pouches Find them in stores today.

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1:02:29Shannon Sharpe:The lady just said what she said. The lady said what she said. They went and washed her clothes and next morning they had them ready. but that's what they had that's what they had to deal with and you know a lot of things that you know but I think for a lot of times because my grandmother lost their house uh Bill H. Derns built him another house on his land free of charge hmm I don't know why he didn't put no damn bathroom in the house but that's what it was so I think that's why my grandmother was stay in the church and she stayed prayed up. And I think that's why my brother and I was able to be successful.

1:03:10Shannon Sharpe:Because I already know she was having prayers. I didn't even know God heard. I didn't know nothing about it, Ochojo. I thank her for that. Carlos, the ATL Oracle. Slow down, brother and cat. Slow down, brother and cat. Some ish. Hawks and six. Caw-caw! Caw-caw! Caw-caw!

1:03:38Shannon Sharpe:Lainey Ray. Hello, Lainey. Hey, guys. Happy 420. All I got to say is the haters in the chat in the middle of the second quarter saying that start of the show because the game is already over. Wolves back. Lainey, y 'all did it. Y 'all did. I didn't see this. I did not see this. Down 19 as well as they were playing Joe and Ocho. I didn't see this. I didn't see it.

1:04:04Chad Johnson:Nah, because it seemed like Timberwolves didn't have, like, no rhythm. A continuity for real. I thought Randall got off to a hot start, but the rest of them, man, you get down like that on the road in the playoffs, especially by a Denver team who's disciplined, and they don't typically beat themselves like this here. You know what I mean? That was surprising.

1:04:24Shannon Sharpe:Daniel Wells, ISO, do you usually partake in 420 activities? Y 'all should get a show to, got together tonight. do a live smoke session to celebrate the holidays.

1:04:37Chad Johnson:It ain't got to be no smoke session. I might take gummies or something, huh? Who? Nah, man. Y 'all don't do them gummies and cookies and all that stuff?

1:04:45Joe Johnson:No, I don't smoke. Cookies? Joe, I only smoke cigars. Yeah, them cookies with the T.A. Ojo eat cookies, yeah, he do. But no. Hey, Joe, I don't smoke no weed. All I smoke is cigars.

1:04:56Chad Johnson:You ain't got to. What's your favorite cookie? I can get you some cookies, man. Have a little T.A. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Hey, you talking about, hold on, hold on. You talking about

1:05:05Joe Johnson:expanding your horizons now, boy. I'm going to put you on this one. Yeah, I ain't doing none of that, Joe. Anything, if it ain't a cigar, Joe, I can't do it, Joe. Joe, I ain't never had no weed all my life. I don't know nothing about that ABC and TSD and all that stuff y 'all be doing, Joe.

1:05:18Chad Johnson:It's going to be a cookie or some candy or something, man. They had you right. Boy, Cambodian, hey, you say you want twins, don't you?

1:05:26Joe Johnson:Yeah. I told you I'm going to get the FBI, but I'm going to get the FBI done. I ain't doing that. What the FBI going to do? Investigate.

1:05:36Shannon Sharpe:That's how you get the twins, huh? Ivy, in vitro.

1:05:43Joe Johnson:Yeah. That's what I said.

1:05:45Shannon Sharpe:In vitro fertilization. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like what they do with cattle. The guy, when John, he was telling us about it.

1:05:55Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:05:57Shannon Sharpe:Take the egg, fertilize the egg, then place the egg back into the... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My bad. Can't prime time. Knicks had a game given on a silver platter. Two missed free throws with a possession. You have a timeout to advance the ball and draw up a play, but they fail. I don't know. Did the Knicks have a timeout? It didn't seem like they had no timeout. They didn't have a timeout. Did the broadcast incorrectly show that they did? But I don't think they had a timeout, bro. His arrogance. New York fans need to get some trade out the mob. King Iso, who's right. Eltonix, Hawks and Six. Hello. Lee Mason.

1:06:43Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I usually support and appreciate your advice. I just couldn't do the strap. You tripping.

1:06:52Hey, listen.

1:06:55Joe Johnson:That strap would scare a lot of people now. It ain't anybody. Man, ain't nobody getting big, Ocho. Get out of here, man. Listen, listen. Hey, that collar, you know, that mask, you know, being vulnerable, not being in control, it scare a lot of people, man. You know, we not used to being in that stage of being vulnerable where we're not in control. Man. I ain't going to be that vulnerable.

1:07:18Chad Johnson:Nah, he's true.

1:07:19Joe Johnson:I'm going to get y 'all right, man. I'm telling you, wait till I see y 'all the videos.

1:07:23Shannon Sharpe:I told you. Nah, don't tell me now. I don't want no virus on my phone. that man kills old ISO you ain't tell us you can sing my boy we heard you singing your heart out last night and Ocho how you owe two people you work with I would trust you with a pity

1:07:42Chad Johnson:hey listen when we get off of here I'm gonna send that playlist on my story I had a couple people hit me up about that playlist they said they wanted to do but you know they still wanted the playlist I put together a little playlist just a little something It's like the gold. Yeah, just one. This is the first one. I'm going to probably throw out another next week. But when we get off, I'm going to post a little, you know. So when you with your little Yamin, you feel me? You know, you play this. You play this right here. I promise you, it's going to be a whole vibe, bro. Ojo, you play music?

1:08:12Joe Johnson:What you mean do I play music? You in Cambodia. Oh, you survive when it's time for that thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, you know, I play a little something, Ojo. You know, I play a little something. Hey, Ojo, you know, sometimes I had a Supreme. I had Patti LaBelle playing, you know, LePeebo Bryson. It depends on how I'm feeling. It also depends on the length of the routine I feel like doing for that evening. You hear me?

1:08:34Chad Johnson:Yeah. I got a routine.

1:08:36Joe Johnson:I don't just go in there playing. Hey, Joe, I'm very performative now, Joe. Are you performing? I'm performing, Joe, every time. You got to understand. You got to understand. You got to be low. You can't have it too loud.

1:08:47Shannon Sharpe:You got to be able to talk to her. Yeah. You got to be able to respond to that.

1:08:50Joe Johnson:Well, hold on. Hold on. There's one thing about it now. If I'm able to talk to you, you can answer back. I ain't doing something right. Hey, Ocho.

1:08:59Shannon Sharpe:I don't want to be talking to myself. Ocho, but see, you ain't seen there you go, man. You trying to jump up. You can't jump up and down all the time, Ocho. That's not me, Unc.

1:09:07Joe Johnson:I just said I'm performing. I'm listening to Pee-Woo Bryce, and ain't no jumping down up to that.

1:09:11Chad Johnson:Ain't no Pee-Woo, man. They are Pee-Woo. Oh, it's levels of what Ocho down there in that sniper position ain't your Ocho. I can see you. I know you down there.

1:09:19Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe. Talk to me, Joe. You know?

1:09:23Shannon Sharpe:Plus you can't be in a situation where, you know, what you say, you done ruined it. I can't repeat myself.

1:09:31Joe Johnson:No, no, no, no. Ain't that. Hey, let me tell you something. You know, I don't mean to, ain't nothing that I ever, ever been able to answer back. You hear me? Ain't no talking in there like that, huh? You hear me? Nah, man. Hey, Joe, like my kid, like my daughter said to me, huh? You know, clock that, whatever that, whatever that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, ain't no talking back, huh? Oh, yeah. Hey, if you answer back, I ain't doing something right.

1:10:01Shannon Sharpe:Man, somebody in the chat tell me, yeah, we know you talk.

1:10:07Shannon Sharpe:There you go, man. Oh, yeah. I'm moving on along. T.N.'s called by Detail Service. I don't get all... Don't get all ISO hype with the Timberwolves. I mean, they good, but dang. Denver bench was way better than when they got Tim Brown, Tim Brown, Valanchunas versus Bones and Reed. Hey, Valanchunas, whew. Hey, Hardaway played well. I thought Bruce Brown played well. Valanchunas gave it nothing. Valanchunas and the other guy, I forget his name. He didn't give them anything either.

1:10:40Chad Johnson:And they're going to need Bruce Brown and Tim Hardaway to be consistent because of them small lineups that Timberwolves play. when they be having guys like Bones Highland and Desamoan, and Whit, and Edwards, and, you know, Julius Randle, and they put that small lineup, they're going to need other guys to be able to match up.

1:10:59Shannon Sharpe:Tim Lee, I ain't worried about the Nuggets. They're still going to win. Wolves ain't doing that three more times with Murray and Jokic. I ain't going 19 or 45 anymore. It's the Knicks I'd be worried about.

1:11:13Chad Johnson:Yeah, hey, hey, I'd be worried about the Knicks too, hell.

1:11:19Shannon Sharpe:What's up night cap? I just want to make sure Ocho knows that dog walking Ocho is going to give him comes with no Vaseline and still

1:11:29Chad Johnson:Hold on

1:11:30Shannon Sharpe:He's talking about you

1:11:32Joe Johnson:It's about 101?

1:11:33Chad Johnson:Yeah

1:11:36Joe Johnson:I don't think people understand Joe you played in the NBA for years Joe You ain't never boy You ain't never seen nobody with no heart like this You hear me? Huh? Joe, I'm going to talk about your game, huh? Boy, you might hit earth playing with me, Joe.

1:11:55Chad Johnson:Boy, you getting yourself into a heap of trouble. Ain't no trouble.

1:11:58Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, I've been in every kind of trouble there is, and when I see you, it ain't trouble. Huh?

1:12:03Chad Johnson:Okay.

1:12:04Joe Johnson:Huh?

1:12:04Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, you know how they say a Rolls Royce and a Chrysler look alike into a damn Rolls Royce? Yeah, hold on. Who the Chrysler and who the Rolls Royce? You the damn Chrysler and I'm the Rolls Royce partner.

1:12:22Shannon Sharpe:The GOAT 2022. Browns got two picks on Thursday. What should they do? I like Tyson upside at receiver. Even his injury history over Tate. Who's the best receiver y 'all got coming out? Wouldn't mind an O-line at six, maybe Kansas City at 24. I think he said he's like KC Conception at 24. they definitely need some old line they definitely got, whomever the quarterback is, they're going to have to protect him, Mojo they're going to have to protect him I don't know if it's going to be Shadour I don't know if it's going to be

1:13:01Shannon Sharpe:Deshaun, I don't know but they got to get protected and they need they need receiver, they just do

1:13:09Joe Johnson:a dog, I'm talking about a dog dog somebody coming in there that's going to change the program That type of dog.

1:13:15Chad Johnson:Well, y 'all know what they can do to get one.

1:13:18Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah, he's down in Dallas.

1:13:22Chad Johnson:You got to give up Miles Gare. That's fine.

1:13:26Shannon Sharpe:All right. Talk to Jerry. Share the Pope. Iso, when New York come into town, Atlanta has a secret weapon. It's called Magic City Blue Flame Candyland. Make the call. Iso, tell them establishment they need to step their game up for these next two games in Atlanta.

1:13:42Chad Johnson:Man, listen, y 'all know the funny part is there's a bunch of people down here from New York, bro. There's a bunch of people down here. They're going to be packed out. I already know it. I already know it.

1:13:52Shannon Sharpe:Seabread says if I'm the Timberwolves, I would try to get Giannis this offseason. They have pieces to pursue him. Ooh. With him and Ant-Man?

1:14:01Joe Johnson:I don't know. Like that? Hey, I already told y 'all, Giannis is looking for a house in Coral Gables already. So why did he even come up with that scenario? It sounds cute, you know, just for dialogue, for conversation, conversational purposes. Y 'all must be at Miami Heat next year, but yeah, go ahead.

1:14:18Shannon Sharpe:Pappy Ray says, ISO on the Hawks or ISO on the Nets? Who's winning one-on-one?

1:14:27I think, I don't know, it'd be a good one.

1:14:32Chad Johnson:Okay, Ocho. It'd be a good one, boy. you saying like in a one-on-one you talking about the ISO that was with the Hawks versus the ISO versus with the Nets yeah it's kind of two two kind of totally different players if you ask me but it'll be a good one yeah

1:14:52Shannon Sharpe:I saw Smith, Nightcap Crew can you name one player that's retired but can still play at a high level in any sport me? Aaron Donald Me?

1:15:05Chad Johnson:One player that's retired and can still play.

1:15:09Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Donald.

1:15:13Shannon Sharpe:You got to realize he was still the best D lineman when he retired. There are very few players that retire, and they're the best players still once they retire. Aaron Donald was still the best defensive lineman when he retired.

1:15:27Chad Johnson:Yeah, I don't know.

1:15:33Chad Johnson:That's a good question. Who retired and can still play?

1:15:40Shannon Sharpe:Because it's got to be somebody that's recently.

1:15:43Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's what I'm thinking for here long. I can't think of nobody else about it.

1:15:54Shannon Sharpe:If you hear a game, I still don't listen to Ocho with all them toys. You're going to end up like Bing Raines on Pulp Fiction.

1:16:06Joe Johnson:Hey, Vin got his ass beat up, man.

1:16:12Shannon Sharpe:Vontae Lewis, Ocho, if this is a beginner level, man, I hate to see that advanced level. Oh, hey, hold on. Hey, speak.

1:16:19Joe Johnson:You know, I got a course on this stuff now. You know, remember how they had them 4X people back in the days, Uncle Joe? I set a course online for this now, you know, from beginners. my intermediate and my advanced my advanced students let me know if you want one boy huh go to the link in my bio I get you right you and your lady man it'll be an experience y 'all you never had

1:16:45Shannon Sharpe:we good over here please don't go to this bio Sir Cates my guy Ocho if you were in picking shoes what is the mindset coming into the new season after the franchise tag also deep down do y 'all believe the Knicks letting Tim's go was a bad move, even with a solid season. Me, personally, I think the over... I'll answer the... Joe, you can answer if you're in pick shoes. Me, I thought...

1:17:18Shannon Sharpe:I thought the Knicks overachieved, personally. Ain't nobody had no damn Knicks winning no championship. But I see what the problem was, is that once they beat the Celtics, everybody said, oh, they're going to win the championship. And then it was a letdown. Because he had that loss to the Celtics. I don't believe they'd have fired him. Right.

1:17:36Chad Johnson:Yeah, I don't either.

1:17:37Shannon Sharpe:Now you fired the man because you lost to Indiana.

1:17:42Chad Johnson:I think that's really what it was for sure.

1:17:47Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you in pitch.

1:17:50Chad Johnson:The Indiana overachieved?

1:17:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Everybody thought it was a foregone conclusion, Boston, coming out.

1:17:58Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm. damn.

1:18:02Shannon Sharpe:We got two all-stars. They won the championship.

1:18:06Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:18:10Joe Johnson:I'm trying to... Shoot, boy. I mean, if I was in pig's shoes, I'm in that franchise tag. Obviously, that franchise, you know, it kind of pissed me off. Obviously, you sit down and you talk to your team. Now, are they tagging me because they don't see the value in me? Are they tagging me to give us some time from a business side, business standpoint, to work on a long-term deal? I mean, it comes down to that. Now, we don't know what that is or what that entails exactly. But as far as picking is concerned, I want to be one of the highest paid. Hell, actually, damn near top three is where he should be slaughtered at.

1:18:45Joe Johnson:Outside of that, I think a good place for picking to be is right there in Dallas. Is right there in Dallas. Obviously, I've said many times and pissed off some Cowboys fans about wanting him to go somewhere else. I had mentioned the Raiders. I mentioned maybe Cleveland and Cleveland swapping Miles Garrett because, I mean, adding another weapon where you need that guy at the receiver position, Pickens going to Cleveland would be really dope and being able to get the money he actually deserves and wants, in which many people feel Jerry Jones will also pay. This is so many different scenarios, so there's so many different things that can happen.

1:19:23Joe Johnson:Jerry is so unpredictable. Ain't no telling what's going to happen. but he always waits until the last minute to pay his players and I think CD's going to be I think Pig is going to have to he's going to get taken care of I think it's just going to be late Jerry's going to do everything on his time

1:19:40Chad Johnson:He's going to get his money Ocho But you can't come with no one hit wonder We got to see you do a little song again

1:19:50Joe Johnson:What we're not going to do is disrespect George Pig and talk about one hit wonder

1:19:54Chad Johnson:I'm not disrespecting And what I'm saying is, Ocho, you can't just come be five one year. You know what I mean? Just show it to us again.

1:20:03Joe Johnson:He showed me enough in Pittsburgh where they had no competent quarterback play. He showed me enough flashes there to know he was going to do exactly what he did once he got to Dallas.

1:20:14Chad Johnson:Just one more game. One more game. One more game. We'll get back to bring. I tell you what.

1:20:22Joe Johnson:How about you just let him go to the Raiders, let him go to Cleveland, and he'll show you there then.

1:20:27Chad Johnson:and then give us Miles Garrett yeah let me talk let me talk with the team let me see what with the team I get back I get back

1:20:36Shannon Sharpe:I've been a Spurs fan since I was born in 1999 this is the first time I've ever seen the fans get color coordinated is this the Wimby impact well this is the first time in a long time that you guys have been serious championship contenders hello since Kawhi left y 'all have never been serious championship contenders. I thought they said it was the festival. Why in 2018? Huh?

1:20:59Joe Johnson:I thought they said it was the festival. Why the crowd was color-coated like that?

1:21:04Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what it was. But I know they believe that they can win a championship now, and they hadn't had that belief since 2018 when they traded Kawhi. Once they traded Kawhi, it was over. It was over. Yeah.

1:21:17Chad Johnson:They back now.

1:21:20Shannon Sharpe:That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us tonight. Two-row teams won a ball game make it very very interesting the knicks lose had a 12 point lead they lost the hawks come back and win it uh and minnesota won on the road uh i want to thank you guys for joining us for another episode of nightcap y 'all know who i am i'm your favorite hunk and there is my partner and co-host the liberty city legend pro bowler all pro that is chad ocho seco johnson and a town Peace up and A-Town down. Seven-time NBA All-Star. From the Atlanta Hawks, that is ISO Joe Johnson.

1:21:57Shannon Sharpe:Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from, thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Don't look at the purchase of a bottle of shade by Laportier. Head over to laportiercognac.com to grab your bottle. If it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you, is a premium VSOP, the best-tasting smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. Please, Drake, responsible and stay safe. The T-Wolves fight back from 12 down to even a series. Atlanta Hawks won the ballgame 107 to 106 after being down by 12.

1:22:39Shannon Sharpe:CJ McCullough had 32 points as he outdued Jalen Bronson, and they tied the series up 1-1. and the Cleveland Cavaliers take a 2-0 lead over the Toronto Raptors thanks to 30 points from Harden 28 points excuse me 30 points from Donovan Mitchell 28 points from James Harden and 25 points from Evan Mobley as they go up 2-0 over the Raptors I'm Unk he's Ocho he's Ocho we're off tomorrow but we're back Wednesday all the way through Monday thank you guys for joining us peace yeah

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